I got mine for around $260, wasn't even looking for a gun but thought for this price what the hell especially since I didn't have a 9mm. I have fired over a 1000 rds thru mine now and can honestly say that I've had only one issue with ammo, had a round that didn't fire and on the 2nd pull of the trigger it fired. The only mechanical issue I've had with this gun is the front site got loose one day at the range, I tighten the sight with no other issues. It is my everyday carry gun, and by the way I use 15 round mags. I've used a variety of ammo with this gun, especially since the ammo varies from range to range. Love this gun.
Errol, $260 for a G3c is a GRAT price. I haven't seen one that low for the past 8 or 9 months. It looks like you got a very nice gun at a very nice price. Thanks for watching.
I got the Taurus G3C and got FMJ rounds and I got Federal Premium Jacketed Hollow Point rounds, 147 grains and my FMJ is 100 grains. Has anyone tested the Jacketed Hollow Point rounds? I have tested a magazine with 8 rounds and chambered them all through to see how it feeds. Had not problems. Haven't fired them but I wanna use Jacketed Hollow Points to carry. Any problems or ideas?
@@officialjohnmn3365 I always shoot a box of whatever I'm going to be using as defensive ammo thru all my guns as soon as I buy them, I want to know that ammo will feed without an issue. I've fired a variety of FMJ's thru my G3C and it ate them all no problem. I have fired +p rds just to see what they were like, but I don't use them regularly.
I Love this gun. I know Taurus had its issues in the past but Ive had great experience with it so far. The safety oddity shouldnt be a problem if trained properly. I do like a manual safety on my handguns though - just how I learned.
Jonathan, I agree, though in my experience, most folks won't train with the safety. They are likely to leave it off, not having any clue what to do if it is inadvertently activated.
Someone below in the comments said it says in the manual in bold red letters not to use +p ammo. Bought mine from a family member, no manual. So do you know anything about this?
I recommend polishing the feed ramp on the barrel, That fixed a lot of peoples problems. Taurus will never be perfect, but at least its decent enough for the average civilian.
UPDATE: Ok took mine to the range today (05/09/24) and had no issues out of the box. I put 300 rds of Federal American Eagle 115 grain FMJ and 20 rds of Federal Punch 124 grain JHP. I was very impressed with this gun BUT I did notice that it shoots about 4" low at 30 yds, so just need to keep that in mind, other then that its a Great Shooter and will be my new EDC. Stay Safe and have a Great Day
I have about 3500 rounds through my G3c and about the same through my longer G3. Did a good amount of polishing to both up front. They both feed and eject great. Also, on bags, they are both dead on accurate. In my hand, not so much.
PhilEllis, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts. I have enough confidence in the G3c that I do carry it occasionally when working outside, though it's not my daily carry gun.
Yes a bit lengthy but I appreciate it.. I just bought one-Partially on the observation of H.O.&, part, due to it's pre-owned/dirt cheap....{I have the P365 & Shield 2.0...Don't like narrow grips...Got Hogue for 365-very needed, works great👍...Might get something for the shield but, it's for my ankle}....I'll pop back [re:Taurus] when I get 1k down range.{...in case anybody's listening😉}
Luca, I look forward to your follow-up. I'll be doing a review on the Shield at some point in the future. I put the Hogue Handall on both of my Shields and it makes them more "shootable", in my opinion.
The whole safety issue can be solved by simply keeping your finger off the trigger when using it as well as getting a good holster that keeps it secure so that the safety which in my opinion doesn’t get in the way nor move on it’s own unless you want it to. This is a topic that shouldn’t have never been an issue until reviewers began making it a issue. I understand that many people are skeptical of Taurus guns, but the G2C/G3C have redeemed them. The G2C was my first gun and I still own and carry it. I see no issues. Just keeping it pushing.
I just got mine last week shot for the first time today. Did 50 rounds of Remington 115gr perfectly fine then tried Federal 115gr and had 13 jams/misfeeds out of the 50 rounds. Put both bullets together and noticed the Remington rounds were slightly shorter in size. Bought another generic 9mm box and compared it to the Federal and it was the same size and would misfeed as well.
@@shadowwolf2524 I ended up lightly polishing the feed ramp and I have not had an issue since. I had no luck with their support either. Hopefully you can find a solution without sending it back.
@@poke2748 Good. I'm glad you got it going. I don't believe the feed ramp is my problem. I've did the "plunk" test with 13 different types of rounds. 3 hit the rifling and don't turn or fall out of the chamber. All 3 that failed are Federal. 115 fmj, 124gr FMJ and 147gr Hydra Shoks. The 124's lock the slide up. But all other rounds I've tried pass. Kinda crazy! But as long as I know what works I'll just use it. No big deal. But it should work with the Federal. I always figure if I get a Taurus I better I better be able to work on it. Their so called "customer service' SUCKS !! Lmao
I have this gun and a shield; the shield's feeding ramp is wider to help with the many Hollow points out there. I do find it not easy to have the right kind of hollow points, so the g3c will function, others seem to have little problems.
Elessar, thank you for watching and commenting. I've found that with many guns, particularly "budget" guns, the quality control may not be consistent. There are many that work very well, but some seem to slip through that aren't as accurate, aren't as reliable, or just aren't built quite as well as the majority. I'm comfortable enough with my G3c that I carry it when working around my property, but I prefer other guns when I go out in public.
Seems the G series has always been prone to issues with flat nosed hollow points. You can fix this issue with 600-800 grit sandpaper and polishing the feed ramp and lower feed ramp that’s on the lower.
@@RidersRange thanks for making the video! I also found something weird. The 15 round G3 mag, which works in the g3c, doesn’t create this problem with any hollow points. Weird but now I’m thinking its an issue with the nose dive of the first few bullets in the stock 12rnd mags.
I've had the Taurus Taurus G2C and the G3C. The G3C is a refined version of the G2C. Glock compatible sights which I promptly put night sights on it right away. The trigger is better than the previous model, but certainty not as good as the Canik. I've had pretty good luck with the Taurus Taurus G2C and the G3C. It is my truck gun, I carry a Ruger SR9C for my EDC which also has a manual safety and a better trigger. Taurus has made some huge strides in the right direction. The safety issue? Well, you would have to continuously put it into that condition and a newbe might inadvertently do that, but most experienced shooters wouldn't. Good honest review of a affordable handgun that does offer quite a bit for the money invested.
I’d disagree on new owners putting it on accidentally. The safety is very positive and you’d have to be pretty moronic to accidentally activate it unless you’re using a crappy holster. You gotta have more faith in new owners.
@@totalnewb123 The gun has to be in a certain condition for the safety situation to occur. If the trigger is partially pulled past a certain point, yes it can happen. Under normal circumstances, it absolutely works as its supposed to. No offense to new shooters intended.
I definitely see how the none adjustable rear sight would be an issue. I have two G2s Taurus's that needed alot of raising of the rear sight to get them to point of aim. I was surprised you had issues with the 124 grain bullets as I have used brand new 124 grn FMJ Magtechs with no feeding or extraction issues. My groups with both of my G2s are great at 7 yards and 10 yards. Both are surprisingly accurate for me. Every gun can have it's issues .....hopefully you can find the solutions for you to be happy with the G3c.
Mr. Bill, the G2c can still be found for that price range, but with all the panic buying going on now, the G3c is going for close to - or above - $300. But it is still a good value. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I've had the G2,G2c,g3, and received my 2nd g3c a few hours ago. I had a few jammers thru breakers periods with some of them, less than 4 times maybe. But the only time I had serious issues was with the G2 shooting some exotic frangible 90 grain rounds at the range on day. And after market pro mags wouldn't cycle any hollow points with any of the Tauruses I've had. With everyone I've owned, after about 100 rounds and EOS mags, ive had no issues with them, except those 90 grain frangible arounds.
G2 and G3 both use the same holster. If you have a good kydex holster that covers the safety you'll never have to worry about it moving on you unknowingly. And if you still have your finger on the trigger while engaging your safety then you shouldn't be allowed to handle a firearm.
I just got a g3c at $275 it won't replace my 38 snub nose but I'm looking forward to putting some lead down range with it hopefully it'll be easier to conceal carry while I'm sitting in a wheelchair
Leo, thanks for watching and commenting. If you haven't done so already, you may want to check out Wheeled And Well Armed UA-cam channel. He does a lot on carrying while in a wheelchair. ua-cam.com/users/WheeledandWellArmed
I guess I've been one of the lucky ones, no problems so far, but keep in mind it's barely broken in at 200-300+rounds. I use 115grain Hornady(115gr critical defense, might switch to duty once they're available again) for carry, and fired about 75 rounds with no issues. I have had one fail to fire with some cheap range ammo(prices omg, come on!), easily cleared with a second pull(dbl strike, it works!), no tap n rack needed. We've got to remember, that MANY of these were made in the last year, and the more demand for them, the more chance of human error. You can expect about 5-8 weeks for turn around if you send it to Taurus, but first they'll tell you to make sure you've run 200-300 rounds thru it to break it in...as afar as the safety, with that long a pull to the wall, it's kind of redundant, obviously if you're in a home with children, please us it. If I have the safety on, it's usually for a purpose, people at the house, children, etc...otherwise, it's safety off, 1 chambered, in my MFT holster. I love this little gun, whatever tiny nitpicks I had, I'm used to now, but I can only speak for me. I was willing to pay out for something in the 6-700 range, but this one, just made sense, and I don't regret it.
jey Lee, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts and experience with the G3c. Mine has become my "around home when I'm doing chores" gun. I'm comfortable with it's reliability and I just have to remember to hold over my target a little bit.
I've noticed the magazine being the issue. It didn't like the Norma brand self defense rounds. So, I tried the Sig brand self defense rounds and those worked fine. The Norma range/training rounds also worked fine.
I've had a problem with hollow points first day shooting mine with 115grain jhp. I went through different grains the next day. I found that 147grain jhp will cycle fine. Same with 124grain. But, I must say 147grain jhp has cycled the best between the three.
I have the taurus G3C i paid $270for i have yet to see one for $300 or more and it has been very accurate with that been said it does NOT have glock sights it can accept the same sights as glock but glock comes with cheap plastic sights and as far as the trigger goes the take up is a safety feature so as to not have an accidentally misfire and the safety is a low profile yet not impossible but unlikely to unintentionally to put into safety mode Maybe this is just me But I don't consider the G3C a budget gun it's a reasonable price gun unlike others where you're paying for the name
Thomas, I guess "budget" is a subjective term. When one is used to paying $500 for a Glock or $1,500 for a good 1911, $300 is more of a "budget" gun. However, the G3c is a great value at that price. If the Taurus quality holds up, I would think they could bump that up by a third and still sell all they could make,
My G3c came with steel sights....The sights are not Glock sights, but they take them! I put Tru glow tritium Glock sights on and they fit like a glove..
I had a g2c I traded in, though I wouldn’t mind picking up a g3c as a backup. But the g2c didn’t have too many issues with any ammo I ran through it, brass cased anyway since that’s where the range I go to requires you to use. It seemed that after a few hundred rounds or so on the g2c that the gun really started to do better and loosened up a bit by 1000 rounds give or take.
@@RidersRange thanks. An update a few months ago I actually did pick up a g3c with the stainless slide. Nice looking gun in my opinion. Put a hogue beavertail on it, it’s pretty nice. Still need to break it in a bit more. It runs practice shells just fine but occasionally a little trouble chambering the first hollow point. Maybe just running it more will loosen it up. Definitely keeping it for a house gun as a backup. For what you pay they really are fine weapons.
Loved your review BUT Taurus now ONLY ships the G3c with 2 Mags not 3. I picked mine up on 05/07/24 so I'm not sure when the change was made but I was very disappointed as 3 Mags was a selling point for me. Stay Safe and have a Great Day.
3.2 in barrel = low left. Step up to heavier bullets and practice. Short barrel guns will magnify the slightest errors in your trigger action. I can now get consistent 3 in groups with 124gr (better with 147gr) at 20 yards but it's not forgiving of the smallest movements.
Uhh.....practice?? You must be new to the channel. I shoot 12-15,000 rounds every year, National ranked PPC competitor spanning 3 decades, NRA Distinguished and 1490 club, former Michigan State PPC Champion. I don't shoot low left. But thanks for watching and commenting.
@@RidersRange But do you shoot with that sub-compact? Comp shooters use specialty guns tuned for accuracy and practice endlessly with their gun. That's not an off the shelf $250 short barrel G3c. I'm just telling you what I've experienced, low left misses are so common in subcompacts using "light" bullets that it's almost a foregone conclusion. Lighter smaller guns (barrels or ammo) means more movement on the shot and it's a matter of maximizing the hardware and minimizing the movement... it's not the gun. Congrats on your level of achievement, I'm new to the channel yes.
I found with hollow points if you dont rack the first bullet fast it will hang up.After racking it fast with hollow points it runs great.I had no problems with ball ammo.I love my G3C and shoot it a couple times each week and it runs great.Honest Outlaw does do some great videos and is one heck of a shooter.I just subbed to your channel.
David, thanks for watching. I haven't experienced any issues with Federal 124gr HST rounds, but I always use full spring force to chamber a round. I'll have to try it slowly to see what happens.
I carry federal HST 124g +p and I had the exact same experience with my g3c. Not an issue just need to bring the slide all the way back and let go. It doesn't happen with my m&p though lol
I just picked up a G3c recently and finally got around to taking it to the range today (first time firing it). I was using Winchester 115 grain practice rounds (100 count) and my gun locked up on me multiple times... and by multiple times I don't mean 2-3 I mean more like 15 times or more. The carry ammo I bought for it had a clip of Federal 124 grain personal defense w/ Hydra-shok and that fired the entire clip without any issues. At the moment I'm blaming Winchester because I was unable to fire 3 bullets even after I tried putting them back in a clip a couple of times and all three would not fire each time I retried them, so I'm guessing bad primers or just bad quality control.
SIG P226 magazines fit the Taurus G series, and unfortunately Glock fan boys will never ever admit that any other gun is just as good or better. Oh well, opinions and other such.
Wallaby, the G3c has a lot going for it. It's probably the best value out there for a compact 9mm. I have several Glocks in the safe, but my go-to pistol when I'm working around the range and doing household projects is the G3c, not a Glock.
Comparing/reviewing a $300 gun to a $500 + gun isn’t a comparison/review. I have hundreds of rounds through my G3C without fail (it’s only a couple months old). I expect that to continue which others have done. And as far as the wonky safety/trigger ding, who does this? I’ve found that the G3C likes 147 grain rounds. You can’t replace practice and getting to know how your gun shoots and with what ammo it likes to eat.
The whole point of comparing guns in different price brackets is often to show that more money doesn't always equate to better. In our 22-part The Great Affordable 1911 Series, less expensive guns often performed as well as, or even better than, the more expensive guns. It's hard to beat a G3c at the price point and it holds its own against several more expensive pistols. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
@@luckycharms8443Rack the slide fast as hell with that 1st hollow point and it will feed.After that it will cycle just fine through the rest.I had the same problem and you can also rack it again fast and it will feed.Good luck.
I recently bought this for concealed carry. Sounds like im gonna need alot of practice with it before carrying it. I guess I'll stick with my Glock for now.
Well was looking at one of these new for $229. Felt really nice in my hand. Thinking about adding another 9mm to what I already have for carrying. At this price it's hard to pass up. Even if that means upgrading the sights.
Tom, $229 is a fantastic price for the G3c. That's what the G2c is usually going for, but the G2c uses proprietary sights, while the G3c uses easily available Glock sights.
UPDATE: I talked to Taurus this morning (06/20/24) and the G3c does come with 3 mags, UNLESS the retailer has requested less and mine for some reason mine decided to only sell the G3c with 2 mags. So bottom line if your looking to buy this gun make sure to ask how many mags your going to get because Taurus ships 3, so I guess it buyer be ware. Stay Safe and have fun.
Mine accurate as hell with any ammo up 2 @20 yards my bro got one too no PROBLEMS at all - mine front got loose so i used locktight good to good now - i shoot everyday from 380-9-40-45-10mm-5.7 - Me myself i have no PROBLEMS with the g2c or G3C - my g2c has over 10,000 rounds thru it nothing has broken yet funny can't say that for my CZ Rami or CZ 97 - MY FULLY CUSTOMIZED TRISTAR P120 HAS OVER 10,000 ROUNDS TRIGGER SPRINGS FAILED AND SLIDE STOP BROKE P120 MY GREAT GUN ALL MY 1911 HAVE BROKEN WELL BE4 - 10,000 ROUNDS - MY GLOCKS HAVE FAILED - FN 5.7 FAILED - SIG 1911 FAILED - RIA 10MM FAILED - REMINGTON RECON DOUBLE STACK HAS FAILED - ITS AMAZING HOW MY FOUR TAURUSES HAVEN'T FAILED YET - MY SAR ARMS P8S HAVEN'T FAILED YET EITHER BUT JUST OVER 1000 ROUNDS THRU IT NOW - GREAT VIDEO
Almost believed you, until you said, "My Glocks have failed" I'm almost 60, I've never had a Glock fail, don't even know anyone that has had a Glock fail. Maybe it's the shooter.
Gunsquawk 44, I carried a Glock (17, 19, 22, 23, 27) for the final 24 years of my law enforcement career, so obviously I believe in their reliability. My department changed from revolvers to Glocks in 1988, so eventually all 100+ members of the department were carrying Glocks and there was the occasional failure. However, virtually all were ammo related (I've had several), magazine related (I've had a couple of those, also), or new shooters "limp wristing" the gun. But those are still "failures".
Love my g3c! Mine shoots good with everything 115 124 and 147! The 147 groups really tight. I have underwood 147 gr +p loaded with Nosler bullets in mine. I went to buy a S&W shield plus. Came home with the g3c instead.
IMHO, Ransom did a piss-poor test of this gun. Every gun is ammo sensitive to some degree, in that some guns seem to prefer a particular bullet weight from a specific manufacturer. I can't think of a single gun I've ever owned that wasn't like that. While I can understand the testing was done during that long dry spell for 9mm ammo and what could be found was quite expensive, they gave up on the gun shooting lighter bullet weights far too early, and didn't even complete testing it with the other sub-147 grain loads they already had out. Many, many times have I had to try a few different manufacturer's loads, all the same bullet weight, before I found one brand the gun "liked" and shot well. Ransom's test was more like a random test of 147-grain loads after the first couple of lighter loads. Far more telling would have been using different weight loads from the same company, and doing this with a few other companies. This gun does have a different kind of ammo sensitivity though, that being that sharp-edged JHP rounds are prone to jamming. I've had jams right on the feed ramp using Federal Hydro-Shok Deep 135 gr., Barnes VOR-TX 115 gr. rounds, and even Federal 124 gr. HSTs will sometimes get the edge of the bullet cavity stuck on the feed ramp. Thinking it just needed breaking in I ran a few hundred FMJ through then tried the JHPs again with the same result. I've polished the feed ramp, replaced the barrel with a Lakeline DLC, and tried different numbers of rounds in the three mags, the jams continued. At this point in time, the pistol is staying in my safe until I can get to the range again and test it with some Hornady Critical Defense rounds. Hopefully, those will feed reliably, otherwise, mine will be for sale at my LGS.
When you buy a pistol, it's always good: Poir the pipe ramp Check charger springs Remove excess oil and grease that comes from the factory to conserve the weapon to stay in the store
“Are you listening, Kimber?” 😂🤣😂 Seriously, how does such an expensive gun as a Kimber only come with one mag? As to the Taurus, my long-term review will be out probably next month sometime. Still waiting on a holster for it. I gotta say on the accuracy, I’ve never had that issue. But I also don’t shoot at 50 yards with pistols and if I did, I probably wouldn’t choose this one. For combat purposes, defensive purposes, 15 yards and in, it gets the job done. If I need to shoot further than that I’ll either run or grab a rifle.
It's a decent gun at a very nice price point. I'm sure it will serve as an adequate defense pistol for those on a budget. Of course, now that I'm retired, I guess I should be on a budget. I'm anxiously awaiting your long-term review. And we missed you again this morning.
Clearly I missed out on an invitation to the party ....My G2C will reliably feed any defensive JHP round I stuff in the magazines (I carry two spare magazines when toting ANY semi-auto pistol in ANY caliber or two speed loaders if my CW of choice happens to be a revolver ). So why does the G3C exist? I purchased my G2C for two main reasons #1: Even fully loaded it conceals nicely (and doesn't rust) during the muggy summers here in South Carolina and does not feel like I'm toting a cinder block between my skin and my jeans #2: If I learned anything as a career LEO (I retired after 27 years in 2010) defensive "gunfights" rarely extend beyond five yards.....Though we TRAINED out to fifty yards! As for sights I've been required to qualify with with everything from revolvers equipped with "iron" sights milled into the frame and blade front sights as on S&W "pencil barrel" Model 10s to those found on Sig P220s and S&W M&P .45ACP handguns. I also learned that sights are nice if you are "sniping" a target from "long range" but for defensive purposes at "close range" sights are basically worthless. So again, why does the G3C exist and what does it bring to the party, so to speak, that the G2C does not?
Thanks for watching and commenting. All good points. I haven't owned a G2c, but for me, the main advantage of the G3c is the option to use readily available Glock sights. (Taurus sights are a little better than stock Glock sights, but not much.) (P.S. I retired in 2012 after 38 years, and like you, I had to qualify over the years with a Model 10, as well as my off-duty gun - a Model 38.)
@@RidersRange My primary off duty and backup handgun, for over ten years was a stainless steel, DAO, Taurus M85 loaded with either 125grn JHP+ or 158grn LSWCHP +P ammo depending on availability and/or time of year. I think the reason I dislike Glocks the way I do is their blocky design and poor, at best, trigger pulls (yes I know, some folks including LEOs, can't figure out how to keep their fingers off the trigger when drawing/"presenting" their handguns). By the way, due to the muggy weather we have here in South Carolina, I decided to trade in an otherwise perfectly serviceable blue steel Taurus M85 DA/SA for the above mentioned stainless steel DAO model. Also, any company that made it's "bones" making "plastic" entrenching tools (I'm looking at you Glock) that broke on a regular basis fails to meet my personal quality standards....Something I learned while I was in the Army. When I worked plain clothes and as an investigator (burglary/homicide/major crimes) I was issued, at one time or another, Chief's Specials, Colt's Detective Specials and for one Golden Moment, a 2 1/2in Model 19 S&W. Of course the absolute best, wish I had it today, Road Dog Service Revolver was a nickel plated, 4in, Colt's Trooper Mk III which at fifty yards from a prone position could reliably place rounds center mass on targets at fifty yards. Today, despite not being a huge fan of ANY 9mm handgun I carry my G2C in the late spring through late summer while also keeping it close to hand as our SECONDAY home defense gun....Secondary to a Mossberg 500 loaded with a slug and 000 buck every other round mix out of a 20in rifle sighted "riot" barrel....But then there is my faithful old "Winter Concealed Carry" pistol in the form of a stainless steel, DAO, "compact" S&W semi auto in .40S&W stoked with 155grn, +P, SJHPs which will be taking the place of the G2C come about the end of this month or early October depending or when I start tucking in my shirt tails and wearing a light jacket again.....And by the way....I am a subscriber to your channel as of 09/09/2021!
@@fdmackey3666 thank you very much for subscribing and for your detailed comment. I can't say I'm a Glock fan, but I did carry a Glock of one model or another for 24 years, mainly because that was the mandatory gun of my department starting in 1988 and I just got used to it. Now that I'm retired, I much prefer a 1911-style pistol and carry a Staccato C DUO almost every day. But I still have a fondness for a nice revolver.
Just something NEW for people to want/buy.... HOWEVER I'm a person that doesn't go with the INNOVATION THING I use & CARRY what has been out in the shooters hands & on the market for a WHILE!!!! IMO... INNOVATION could get you KILLED
The trigger on the G3c is much more comfortable, not sharp edged like the G2c. It also has a better finish, glock sights work on them. Never had 1 jam yet on any ammo. I even load several different types of ammo in 1 mag, rapid fire with no problems as of yet.
I don't like the white dot because of my vision. I prefer Night Sights but with that said the Taurus G3C is worth way more than $300 without a doubt! I love my G3c You get the features of a $600-$800 gun. Compared to something like the Glock 43x it's unbelievably amazing for the money. 1. It has 3 steel mags 2. It has restrike capability 3. It has good grips 4. It has metal sights 5. Glock and many brand compatible sights including TruGlo 6. Red dot ready 7. Tenifer Matte Black Coating that protects it from rust and corrosion. 8. Has a Teflon coating on the controls I don't know of a sub $300 gun that has all that in fact, it would cost you $850 to get all that on the Glock 43x For $124 you can get an aftermarket Target Threaded barrel (3.8") which increases accuracy and put a suppressor on it or get a compensator to reduce vertical recoil for $20 all from Lakeline LLC
Just picked one of these up from someone who needed the cash. 115 or 147gr ammo FTF 14 times on 3 mags. I used factory FMJ ammo from Blazer, S&B, and Winchester. I put it away in disgust. I ran the same ammo in my XD9 mod 2 and had no FTF. FWIW, I cleaned the gun after purchase and it sat in my safe for a few months. I checked it out prior to heading to the range and it still had a light oil as expected. I will not be carrying this weapon. I'll stick to my XD or Glock as I have no confidence in the G3c.
Being that it was designed to be a CCW and personal defense firearm it liking heavier weight ammo is not entirely a bad thing. The stock sights are okay to start with but swapping them out for some quality fiberoptic front and blacked out rear like on the TP9sf Elite really improves the accuracy. I found that the 138gr Federal Syntech defense runs really nice through the G3C. I also found that if you run lower grain weight loads that plus-P helps return the accuracy you found with the 147gr. I ran some Underwood 124gr plus-P jacketed hollowpoints with acceptable performance at 12 yards. I will say this the low & left issue in my opinion, is due to the amount of travel in the trigger and the distance between backstrap and where the trigger breaks. Those with larger hands using the pad of the trigger finger to fire will end up pushing the gun left in finalizing the pull through the wall. It is not an uncommon phenomenon and is only noticeable on the paper and in slow motion of high-speed video recordings. There is a gentleman that makes aftermarket trigger shoes that compensate for this by the name of Keeptinkering. Check out his UA-cam channel and his Pseudo-Backstrap trigger. I put one in my buddies G2C and it made all the difference in the world.
Killa, thanks for watching and providing your thoughts. I shot competitively long enough to not have the usual low-left issues, even with triggers that have over-travel, and several other reviewers who are also very good shots have had the same problems. As to the different ammo, I didn't try it with any +P or defensive loads. If I were to carry the G3c I would dip into my carry ammo and it would probably bring up the point of impact. But with ammo prices and availability issues these days, I'm not generally running it through guns that I don't intend to carry.
@@RidersRange completely understandable. I was just relaying my experience with the firearm and the issues I have seen people have through the years of shooting competitively and serving as a trainer. I am no professional by any means and have been out of the competitors arena for quite some time now. I think that it is like anything else you need to spend some time getting to know its personality quirks and make some tweaks here and there. I spent many hours with it and its predecessors and would say that straight out of the box it is finicky and that it is not a firearm that you leave the store go to your car load up and through on your side it requires range time and some fine tuning but it has proven reliable for me thus far 750 rounds down and no malfunctions. I did however tear it down polish the feedramp and all the firegroup components. The G3C is not my first rodeo with Taurus firearms. I hope that you did not think that I was questioning your shooting skills because that was certainly not my intent. There are a few upgrades that a person can do that really makes the G3C a great performer.
@@killacoiler1707 thanks for the additional info. I wouldn't hesitate to carry the G3c, though I would change the sights and do more ammo testing to find what it likes best. I'm fortunate to have other options that I like better, so I'm considering giving the G3c to my sister (with new sights) for her first defensive pistol.
First test fire at the range the G3C was down and to the left. The rear site out of the box was clearly off. I had it adjusted and the pistol fired straight yet still low. I figured it may be in my grip. Still haven't had an opportunity to re-try my grip adjustment.
There are many reasons for consistently shooting low that are shooter related, with trigger press and looking at the target after each shot being paramount. But it also could be the gun. Try some 124gr or 147gr ammo and see if that makes a difference. It seems counterintuitive, but heavier ammo often prints higher on the target.
dwillhight, thanks for watching. I put several different types of 9mm ammo through it again recently and it shoots well enough for general defense, but still nowhere near as accurate as most of my other guns.
Thank youuu I thought either my gun was shooting low or I was just ass but my Canik hit right on target, for me to hit bulls eye with my Taurus I had to aim a couple inches above
Fishfry, that's probably because there are many folks who operate firearms incorrectly, mainly due to poor training -- or no training at all. I can only guess that's more of a problem now with something like 8 million new gun owners in the past year. Thanks for watching and for adding your comment.
I agree with all you said about the G3C. While I dont have one I do have a G2C. I purchased this 2 years ago when Rural King had a special for 189. The gun has worked perfectly at around 1500 rounds but the finish on the slide is no good. I had wear on slide in just 2 months of use. I did try my safety like you did yours and mine sounded like the striker didnt release all the way. I am gonna try a case with just a primer only and see if mine strikes the primer. My carry you didnt mentioned is the Walther PPSM2. But all you mentioned are great guns no doubt. Great video as always
Scott, as always, thanks for watching and commenting. I couldn't add the Walther to the comparison, because, believe it or not, I don't own any Walther pistols anymore.
I absolutely love my g3c! The best gun i have ever owned! mine will take any amo i put thru it. But my g2c has a lil trouble with steel case amo and i think i've narrowed it down to a narrower load ramp. side note, that indicator hole to see if the g3c is loaded is beyond useless because unless u have super vision, u cant see shit in there. Although i need glasses even with them on i cant see a dam thing in there. Otherwise that gun is worth every penny and dead reliable every time.
Being a 1st dan practitioner in tkd. The only holsters I prefer is level 2 retention. Ik it's a long shot but I don't feel comfortable kicking if my gun comes flying out, odds are that if I need to defend myself I will use the gun. However I just like having the option available.
Thanks for watching and adding your comment. During my entire 38-year law enforcement career I used a holster with a safety strap (thumb break), which was more secure than a Level 1, but not as secure as a Level 2. For your kind of activity I can see why you want the extra security, though it may be difficult to find one for the Taurus.
Thanks for the video. I love mine. Perfect fit in my fat hand. I haven't shot any 147 gr. Guess I need to. One issue I had, and I am sure it is my fault, is not racking the slide fast enough to load the first round (a hollow point). It hung and didn't go up the ramp and into the chamber. I carry it every day. Liked it better than the G26 so I sold it. Still thinking about buying another one just because. I added a 15rd from Taurus with their factory designed sleeve and it became a 15+1. :) NOTE: My son bought the P365XL. I haven't shot it yet, but just holding it made me decide I didn't like it because the hand grip is too thin for my liking. And BTW, why shoot 50yds when you will probably be accosted from 21 feet or less? Just sayin'.
Michael, thank you for watching. I'm okay with my G3c when working around the "ranch" and I trust it, but it's not my favorite defense gun. I agree that the grip on the P365 it small. I added a Hogue HandAll grip sleeve to mine and it makes a huge difference. As to shooting at 50 yards, there are a couple reasons: 1) I want to see what the gun is capable of in my hands; and 2) If I know it can hit small targets at 50 yards, I KNOW it will hit what I want at closer distances. Those who do all their practice at 7 yards and closer - because that is the statistical "average" (which it isn't) - never know what they can do under stress at greater distances IF the need arises. I do most of my sighting in at 15 and 25 yards and I rarely practice closer than 12 yards.
@@somenoonsomenoon8874 My G3c Dose not like wide Hollow Points. Rubs on the Ramp. but other then that, My G3c Has LakeLine Steel Parts. I Replaced all plastic questionable parts.
The "statistical average" for a defensive situation is less than 10 yards. However, I don't train to the statistics, I train to the unicorns. If I only shoot at 10 yards or less, I don't know how I will perform with my gun at greater distances, should the need arise. But if I know how I perform with a gun at 25 or 50 yards, I KNOW I can perform with it at closer distances. Plus, I like the challenge of hitting small targets at 50 yards with a small gun.
I'm finding the same result of shooting low left. Glad you pointed out that it's ammo sensitive. It was a similar problem on the G2C. I replaced the sights initially, and adjusted, but it was still shooting low. I contacted the sight manufacturer, and they gave me taller sights to compensate. I've addressed this issue with the G3C with the sight manufacturer as I also changed these out on this model. They have yet to reply to me. (I think they are understaffed or something with these Covid19 days). Anyway, I think maybe it might have to do with the barrel rifling or twist rate. I don't plan on shooting anything beyond 25 yrds so this isn't too big an issue with me. Just an annoyance.
Mel, I don't know what Taurus goes through to determine what height sights to use, but with all the reviews showing the gun not shooting to point of aim, I have to wonder if they actually do any testing at all.
@@RidersRange I consider it part of their learning curve to becoming a more reputable gun manufacturer. Enough complaints and they'll look into it as they've certainly done to their designs and general quality control of their current offerings. Plus it might be ammo related. It's a defensive handgun, and not an adjustable race gun. So the philosophy to it might not be to super accuracy. In my experience its eaten through all my ammo types with zero issues; aside from the one I'm posting. As my gun is currently configured and working, I still trust it as my EDC. Just not happy with the POI being off from my G2C, which for all intensive purposes not far from the G3C.
Mel, mine has been completely reliable and I wouldn't hesitate to carry it, understanding that it does shoot low. IF I elected to carry it (big IF, as I have others that I prefer), I would change the sights to correct the POA/POI issues, though it would work as is at close range.
@@RidersRange The factory sights were aiming low. I changed them for night sights anyway. They still aim low. We're not talking much. About 2-3 inches at 15yds. I normally cover the bullseye with the dot. I don't hold at the 6. If I did that, it would shoot even lower. On my G2C (for all intensive purposes the same gun), the sight manufacturer sent me replacement for the same issue. Fixed it as far as I'm concerned. I contacted them about this, but still haven't heard back. At under 15yds, I'm not highly concerned about the POI being a few inches low. Just the only lingering thorn in my side for this gun. Otherwise, I've made all the modifications and happy with it. My response post was just to see if others are experiencing this issue.
No, it's not. Ignore that nonsense. If I picked up a firearm for the very first time, engaging the safety mid trigger pull would never cross my mind. This is one of those things in my opinion that shouldn't be demonstrated in the first place. Demonstrating how to handle a firearm incorrectly serves no purpose other than transferring and instilling those bad habits in viewers who don't know any better. I would never teach someone to engage the manual safety mid trigger pull. It's illogical. With that being said, I'm not trying to bash Mr. Rider's-Range or TheHumbleMarksman. I understand they're trying to review the firearm in its entirety and demonstrate all of the firearm's capabilities. The best safety in my opinion is to keep your booger hook off the bang switch until you're ready and certain that you want to discharge the firearm. That's what I've been taught my entire life by family, friends and most recently my BLET instructors. It has worked out pretty well for me so far and has always made the most sense. How you train is how you'll react in real world situations. Be smart and train the correct way every time you handle a firearm. Just my two cents.
Probably not gonna get outstanding accuracy in cold weather (bullet drop) with the wind blowing and wearing gloves. As long as you can lob them in when it counts though, that's all that matters. Friend had some jamming problems with a firearm once and sent to the factory. Turns out it was the 147gn bullets. Factory said short barrel firearms it often short-cycles or FTF, since 147gn designed for a 5" barrel. Good review!!!
I've got a question about a new G2c I bought a few days ago. After field stripping and cleaning the gun, I put a magazine loaded up with American Eagle 124 gr FMJ and chambered a round. It feed the round into the chamber just great. But when I took out the Mag and tried to rack the slide back to eject the chambered round, the slide was stuck. It would only slightly pull back and stop. Just totally locked up. I managed to get it unlocked by holding the back of the slide and smacking the back of the grip.. Once it broke free- the slide came back like normal and the round ejected just fine. I thought it was broke and it was going back to the factory, which I didn't want to do. I've had contact with their customer service. To put it nicely-they SUCK.! So anyway, I thought maybe it was a bad round or just didn't like the AE 124 gr bullet. I then tried some AE 115 gr FMJ. Chambered and ejected those as it should. Slide didn't lock up. Next, I tried Winchester NATO 124 gr. No problems. It worked as good as the AE 115 gr FMJ. I've got several other brands of 9mm. I'm going to dig them out and try them all next. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I'm not even going to try to fire the AE 124 gr- or any others that happen to freeze up the slide. This G2c seems a little picky about the ammo it likes. I've used AE124 gr for several years and never have had a problem with it. Hell, I've never seen a gun lock up like this one does. I do like the gun. If it don't like a brand or 2, I can live with that. I'm thinking maybe it has a tight extractor. It seems to have a very stiff spring. Might just need broken in. Do any of you have any ideas why it would do this with 1 of the 3 loads I've tried so far? Have any of you had this problem with your G2 or G3?
Shadow Wolf, I've had that happen on other guns, but not on my G3c. I usually find one of two issues, though there could be others. (I've never had any issue with 124gr American Eagle.) 1) The bullet of the chambered round contacting the rifling. This will happen with a short lead (distance between the end of the chamber and the start of the rifling), or with a long bullet profile before the shoulder and ogive. I found that if I load Montana Gold 124gr hollow point bullets to my normal overall length, they will hit the rifling in several different guns and lock up as yours did, but 124gr round nose works fine. Next time you try that round, darken the bullet with a Sharpie and see if the rifling leaves marks on the bullet. 2) Oversize cartridge case. I have only had this a couple times with off-brand 9mm steel case, never with any major brand. Let us know what you find out.
@@RidersRange Update- I tried 5 more different assorted rounds this morning. Geco 124 FMJ, UMC 115 gr FMJ, UMC 124 gr FMJ, UMC 115 gr jhp and Federal 147 gr Hyda-Shok. 2 of each. No problem. All feed and ejected as they should have. Then I tried another 124 gr AE FMJ. It chambered Olay. But locked the slide the same as the 1st one did. It did seem to break loose alittle easier than before. I field stripped the pistol and inspected and cleaned it again. Everything looks good. It just doesn't seem to get along with that load. The AE 124 gr FMJ is one of my favorite 9mm rounds. I've used it in numerous handguns and it's always worked. But I'm happy the Taurus seems to get along with the other 7 loads I tried. And I'm real happy it ain't going back and I dont have to deal with "cough-cough"- Customer service- "cough-cough" !. I need to get out and shoot it. But I've been pretty stingy with my ammo lately. I'm planning on my G2c taking the place of my 38 S&W 642. Holds over twice the rounds and a little more powerfull round. I picked up a "Sticky" pocket holster for it. I've been trying it out around the house and yard. 1st one I've ever tried. I'm impressed so far. It is well made and comfortable and only $25. Anyway, thanks for the help and quick response.
@@shadowwolf7622 one more thing to try: Take the barrel out of the gun and put one of the "problem" rounds in the chamber to see if it goes all the way in without force.
@@RidersRange I tried exacy that this morning when I was messing with it. I put an AE 124 gr FMJ into the barrel. Then, I pushed it in as far as it would go. The round did become stuck and I had to knock it out with a plastic cleaning rod. It was very tight. I believe your idea that that round is touching the rifling when fully seated in the chamber just might be right. That does make since. I've owned a lot of guns over the years but have never seen this happen. I'm glad I noticed this issue. I'll just test any new ammo I get for it before I try and fire them. So far, I've only had 1 out of 8 do this. I do like this G2c. It seems well built and just feels really good in my hand. This quirk I found just reminds me I should check all ammo out before I trust a gun to work with it. You can always have good ammo and a good gun that just are not good together. Overall, I'm very happy with my G2c and glad I finally bought one. I've been thinking about trying one out for a while now. A young couple was looking at this one last week when I was at my local Academy. I started talking with them and told them I thought the Taurus was a great deal for $250. Told them I had heard alot of good things about them. I thought they were going to buy it. But they handed it back to the salesman and walked off. Then the sales guy and me started talking about how good of a deal we both thought it was. He went to put it back in the case and I stopped him. I said "Let me look it over 1st. I think I'll just take it home myself.". I had sworn to never buy another Taurus again 3 years ago after my 2nd Taurus customer service nightmare. And guess what I did earlier today. My youngest son and I went to our local gunstore to browes around. I came back with a new Heritage Rough Rider 22. They had them for $129. Now I have a matched set. I'll confess- I bought one a couple weeks ago- same price. And Taurus owns Heritage now. I guess I'm "Team Taurus" again- lmao! Oh, and I have a Rough Rider put up I bought a few years back. I'll just pray I don't need any service or parts from them. The last time I ordered 2 mags from them, it took Taurus over 10 months for them to get them to me. But dang- I do like some of their guns.
Could it be that you just need to train more with the g3c? It just seems unfair to say that a gun is inaccurate because you didn't hit your target. I think it was Hickock 45 that said something like modern handguns aren't inaccurate, it's more likely that it is the shooter who is inaccurate with that particular gun.
Jun San Diego, it's quite obvious that you wrote your comment without actually watching the entire video. Just a suggestion to be fair to the content creator, as well as those who read the comments: actually watch the entire video before making a comment. I'm sure you wouldn't want to be judged by someone who didn't take the time to gather all the available info.
I did watch the entire video. Which part did I miss? The part where you thought the gun was inaccurate or the part where you thought it was ammo sensitive? Seems to me like a workman blaming his tools and you know how that saying goes, right?
@@junsandiego3703 you must have skipped over the parts where I mentioned other respected reviewers who also had issues with the G3c, or the part where I mentioned that the gun worked better with heavier projectiles -confirmed by Ransom's testing, or the part where I was hitting 10" plates at 50 yards with the 147gr 9mm ammo (17:38-17:46 and again at 19:18), and at 19:30 "it did redeem itself with the right ammunition". For the record, I trust the G3c enough to carry it on occasion. It is a decent gun for the price, as I mentioned at the end of the video. However, there are better options, though they come at a higher price point. Thank you for the stimulating discussion.
@@RidersRange I remember those parts and they can explain my point as easily as they explain yours. Other respected shooters could have the same shooter error. It's not uncommon for someone right handed to shoot low and left if they are not used to the trigger. Hitting plates at 50 yards can also be because you're getting more comfortable using the gun. Did the gun redeem itself using the right ammo or did you redeem yourself by getting enough practice with the gun? No matter how skilled we are at shooting we still need to get used to a new firearm. It might fit our hands differently or we may need to adjust how we manipulate the weapon. Bottom line is that most of the time we would need to adjust to the weapon first before we can say that it is not working the way it should. Nothing against you. I respect you giving your opinion. I just want to make it clear that this is just YOUR opinion and not a common design flaw of the firearm. Stay safe and have a good day.
There are many good defense hollow point rounds available. I can't make a specific recommendation because I don't know what works best in your particular gun. You just need to find what works 100% in your gun.
The grip circumference is the same for the 365 and the XL and it's that small circumference that makes the 365 line "awkward", at least for me. However, I solved that by putting a Hogue HandAll grip sleeve on both of my Sigs.
I just bought the G3c No safety. Still waiting Kygunco to ship my G3c. I hope it's ok. My PT-11G2 still works great. My GX4 shoots left no matter what I do. Waiting for a Lakeline LLC threaded barrel for the GX4.
Hi. I bought my g3c last year but because of COVID COMBINED THE RANGE WHERE I SHOOT went out of business I didn’t get to shoot gun until last week. I used Winchester, Federal and Hornaday all at 115grn I could not fire more than 1 round without the gun jamming. Once in a while it would eject a spent shell but then the next round was angled straight up. I tried everything but never succeeded in firing more than one round without jamming I am trying to send it back for repair having some problems dealing with personnel. If it gets fixed will I feel I can ever trust it to carry. I’ll follow up when I get the fixed/repaired gun back Bill
James, generally, I presume any lack of accuracy is just the particular gun/ammo combination that I used, but a few other reviewers had some issues with their guns, also. Having said that, my G3c is accurate enough for general defensive use.
I agree with you on sights. I like dots, prefer tritium at least on the front. I very much dislike all black and/or target style sights. You are welcome to check out what I have, if you like.
Craig, all black front and rear are my ideal for precision, though not for quick acquisition. For this type of gun, a high-def front sight and a combat "U" notch rear would be my preference. Since the G3c takes Glock sights, there are a lot of options out there. Thanks for watching and commenting.
As I've replied many times to others, if you only work with your gun at the statistical average defensive distances, you never know how you and your gun will perform outside that mythical "normal" defensive distance. But if you regularly practice with your defensive gun at greater distances - 25 yards with occasional practice at even greater distances - you will perform better with your gun at those "average" distances. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’m late to the game 😂. Just bought a G3C yesterday. They had to order it for me because all they had in stock was the one with a stainless slide, and I wanted solid black. Should be here Tuesday. $300 out the door.
I over pad fur my G3c 400 I have got ripped off and 30 for federal syntech ammo . But overall I'm very satisfied with the firearm runs really good about a 17 round magazine for it from Taurus take 39 for that but the guns really nice and I'm satisfied with the firearm just overpaid
43x is a good gun but I really like the g3c but once I figure out the HP feed issues and in racking manually and locked it should be a great gun to carry.
Floyd, I trust it enough to make it a carry gun when I'm working around the house. Also, I just did a test on a variety of defense ammo - video coming out in a few days. Thanks for watching.
@@dreadone6894 sorry bout your gun dude i think you got one of those factory lemons not all guns are made the same everytime even expensive brand guns have that you should take it back for warranty repair
I just purchased this gun. The first time out, the ammo jammed a few times. If anyone has a recommendation as to how to avoid this problem, I would love to hear from you.
Got my G3c from Rural King 5 months ago for $279.99. I've only ran 20-25 rounds threw it & obviously there were No issues @ all but, its still new so, time will tell! I plan on getting a stainless steel threaded barrel from Lakeline & upgrading several other parts like the recoil spring, firing pin (to eliminate plastic.) I plan on getting the laser & upgrading the mag release,the take down tab, & tridium nite pipe sights along with the extended mag from the pt-111. I AM PLEASED EVEN IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM, I ordered a auto loader from Bloody Wheelsusa & a flush but plate for the mag from (NES on youtube) or NES DESIGNS....EVENTUALLY ID LIKE TO FORM-1 IT & SUPRESS IT.. NEXT, I want a Rock Island Vr60 or vr80 12gauge in the AR platform!
I've only been able to take mine out 3 times. This is my first firearm so I haven't had the most practice so idk if it's more of an operator issue rather than a firearm issue but I've been watching plenty of proper sidearm accuracy tip videos to help. I've put about 300 rounds through mine with 115 grain ammo & the accuracy seems iffy to me. My friends say it's my recoil anticipation & are slightly better with accuracy with it but I still feel like in noticing it's a little inaccurate in their hands but I feel like it's hitting low & to the left. The next time I go I'm buying bigger grain rounds but any recommendations would be nice
Low and left does sound like recoil compensation. The G3C does like those heavier loads, try out a 147 grain and see how that does. It isn't going to be very accurate anyway, it's a compact concealable weapon with loose tolerances meant for very close engagements (pushing past 20 meters is gonna take some skill). Shorter barrels are just less accurate and that also means they have a shorter sight radius which compounds the issue, it's just the nature of the beast. If you have a TORO then a red dot will eliminate that sight radius issue, though
@Beta, a couple things: 1) shooting low left is a common issue for right-handed shooters, but many guns aren't properly sighted in at the factory, particularly the less-expensive ones; 2) I've found that the G3c does seem to like the 147gr ammo getter than 115 or 124.
Completely focus on the front sight... I mean completely.. hold gun as hard as you can. .. Pull slowly so you dont know when the round will go off.... Dry fire your gun hundreds of times without making it move... most important.. only focus on front sight.. canot stress this... this is the most important thing taught by Navy Seals... FOCUS ON SIGHT ONLY !... DRYFIRE... DONT ANTICIPATE THE SHOT
@@RidersRange I had a handful of Winchester 115 grain fail on me multiple times at the range today. Had a clip that was loaded with Federal 124 gain Personal defense w/ Hydra-shok that shot without any issues. That being said I'm leaning more towards bad primers or lack of quality control with Winchester because I had 3 bullets I loaded back into a clip MULTIPLE TIMES to try and fire again and they just would not shoot.
i got 1 chambered in a New g2c, slide wont release, live round stuck??? any suggestions appreciated , cant pull trigger where i am ... slide wont release?
By "slide won't release, live round stuck", I presume it is loaded and you can't extract the live round from the chamber. I know what I'd try if I had the gun in my hands, but I can't give that kind of advice in a comment. Otherwise, I would suggest take it to where you could safely fire it to clear it.
Get a small knife(or some small steel object) and insert it at the end of the ejector port and the frame. If you pull the slide just enough You'll see a little space that you can wedge the knife into and push the slide fully back. And out comes the stuck round. I had problems with fiocchi 115g fmj rounds. Switched to magtech 115g fmj and ZERO problems
What type of ammo were you using? I had a bunch of Winchester 115 grain practice ammo fail on me today. I even ended up with 3 bullets that WOULD NOT FIRE no matter how many times i reloaded the clip up with them, so I'm blaming bad primers or lack of quality control because I dumped an entire clip of Federal 124 grain Personal defense w/ Hydra-shok without any issues. That being said, I'm keeping my S&W Shield for my EDC because I haven't had one single issue with it until I can run more ammo through my G3c to make sure it's just an ammo issue and not a Taurus issue.
Took mine to read range today with fmj jhp and frangable ammo no issues what so ever bought it new yesterday 291 out the door will be carrying it over my sig p 365 oh and my g3 c came with no safety
Robert, I've found that many guns are sensitive to different types of hollow-point ammo. And OAL can be a problem with certain bullet profiles in guns with a short lead (chamber end to rifling start). Ask me how I know after loading 2,000 Montana Gold hollow-points.
So far, my G3C has been flawless as far as reliability and consistency. Zero issues with firing. My only problem is the cheap sights it came with. I took my Glock 19 and G3C to the range together to make sure the problem with me shooting the G3C low and left wasn't about my technique. The Glock 19 was right on the money every shot. I have been shooting for over 30 years, and when I fired the G3C, it always shoots low and left. It's the only gun in my collection that does. It does it consistently though, which is good. My group was still tight....just 1.5 inches low and left at 20 feet. Still good enough to be my EDC as-is. I cannot complain one bit. Just gotta get those cheap sights replaced. Small price to pay for a reliable gun that cost me less than $300.
Good review sir! Matter of fact, my son just purchased one of these, about 325.00, his first handgun. In an overall evaluation, ( in your opinion ), on a scale between 1 and 10, where would you rate the g3c?
Danny, I guess that would depend on what I'm comparing it to. Overall, I'd put it mid-pack, but I'd give it extra points for value. I wouldn't hesitate to carry it, but it falls in line behind my Staccato C, Wilson EDC X9, CZ P01, Sig P365XL, Glock 48 (with Zaffiri upper and optic), Dan Wesson ECO, and several others, but ahead of a Bersa, Springfield Hellcat or XDs, way ahead of a Mossberg MC1Sc and ahead of the Taurus G2c.
@@RidersRange Appreciate the great detailed response sir. Living in an area that would be a modest to lower crime area, I would also carry the gc3! Thank you!!
I like the 147gr for my G3c, but often each individual gun has a preference for a particular type and weight of ammo. And with budget guns that don't have the same level of QC that many higher priced guns have, what works best in one may not work best in another gun of the same model. You need to find what works best for you.
I got mine for around $260, wasn't even looking for a gun but thought for this price what the hell especially since I didn't have a 9mm. I have fired over a 1000 rds thru mine now and can honestly say that I've had only one issue with ammo, had a round that didn't fire and on the 2nd pull of the trigger it fired. The only mechanical issue I've had with this gun is the front site got loose one day at the range, I tighten the sight with no other issues. It is my everyday carry gun, and by the way I use 15 round mags. I've used a variety of ammo with this gun, especially since the ammo varies from range to range. Love this gun.
Errol, $260 for a G3c is a GRAT price. I haven't seen one that low for the past 8 or 9 months. It looks like you got a very nice gun at a very nice price. Thanks for watching.
@@RidersRange I’ve seen one on academy sports for like 270
@@dallaslatimore1796 guns in general are starting to come back down in price. Unfortunately, I paid more than $300 for this one.
I got the Taurus G3C and got FMJ rounds and I got Federal Premium Jacketed Hollow Point rounds, 147 grains and my FMJ is 100 grains. Has anyone tested the Jacketed Hollow Point rounds? I have tested a magazine with 8 rounds and chambered them all through to see how it feeds. Had not problems. Haven't fired them but I wanna use Jacketed Hollow Points to carry. Any problems or ideas?
@@officialjohnmn3365 I always shoot a box of whatever I'm going to be using as defensive ammo thru all my guns as soon as I buy them, I want to know that ammo will feed without an issue. I've fired a variety of FMJ's thru my G3C and it ate them all no problem. I have fired +p rds just to see what they were like, but I don't use them regularly.
I Love this gun. I know Taurus had its issues in the past but Ive had great experience with it so far. The safety oddity shouldnt be a problem if trained properly. I do like a manual safety on my handguns though - just how I learned.
Jonathan, I agree, though in my experience, most folks won't train with the safety. They are likely to leave it off, not having any clue what to do if it is inadvertently activated.
Same here re: safety- TRAINing... 👍 {Military for me} But I keep learning & adjusting.
Mine ate aluminum,steel,brass,+p,👎 no issues,Luv It!😊
Logan, Taurus has come a long way and now they make some pretty good guns. Thanks for watching.
Just picked myself up one at my local shop in TX. It feels great in the hand, can’t wait to
take it out to the range and break it in!
Someone below in the comments said it says in the manual in bold red letters not to use +p ammo. Bought mine from a family member, no manual. So do you know anything about this?
I recommend polishing the feed ramp on the barrel, That fixed a lot of peoples problems. Taurus will never be perfect, but at least its decent enough for the average civilian.
That's the usual fix. Thanks for watching.
The G3c I have is 3 months old , and it has fired everything , and is get better groups with high grain ammo (125- 147).
Thank you for watching.
UPDATE: Ok took mine to the range today (05/09/24) and had no issues out of the box. I put 300 rds of Federal American Eagle 115 grain FMJ and 20 rds of Federal Punch 124 grain JHP. I was very impressed with this gun BUT I did notice that it shoots about 4" low at 30 yds, so just need to keep that in mind, other then that its a Great Shooter and will be my new EDC. Stay Safe and have a Great Day
I have about 3500 rounds through my G3c and about the same through my longer G3. Did a good amount of polishing to both up front. They both feed and eject great. Also, on bags, they are both dead on accurate. In my hand, not so much.
PhilEllis, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts. I have enough confidence in the G3c that I do carry it occasionally when working outside, though it's not my daily carry gun.
Yes a bit lengthy but I appreciate it.. I just bought one-Partially on the observation of H.O.&, part, due to it's pre-owned/dirt cheap....{I have the P365 & Shield 2.0...Don't like narrow grips...Got Hogue for 365-very needed, works great👍...Might get something for the shield but, it's for my ankle}....I'll pop back [re:Taurus] when I get 1k down range.{...in case anybody's listening😉}
Luca, I look forward to your follow-up. I'll be doing a review on the Shield at some point in the future. I put the Hogue Handall on both of my Shields and it makes them more "shootable", in my opinion.
The whole safety issue can be solved by simply keeping your finger off the trigger when using it as well as getting a good holster that keeps it secure so that the safety which in my opinion doesn’t get in the way nor move on it’s own unless you want it to. This is a topic that shouldn’t have never been an issue until reviewers began making it a issue. I understand that many people are skeptical of Taurus guns, but the G2C/G3C have redeemed them. The G2C was my first gun and I still own and carry it. I see no issues. Just keeping it pushing.
Total Newb 123, thanks for watching and offering your thoughts.
@@RidersRange thank you for the reply. I hope it didn’t come it came off as a rant and thanks again.
All comments are appreciated, even those that may appear to be rants, so keep 'em coming.
My Taurus runs like a champ G3c all the way over 1500 hundred rounds in without cleaning. It run just like all 15 of my glocks champs.
I still trust mine enough to carry it on occasion. Thanks for watching.
I just got mine last week shot for the first time today. Did 50 rounds of Remington 115gr perfectly fine then tried Federal 115gr and had 13 jams/misfeeds out of the 50 rounds. Put both bullets together and noticed the Remington rounds were slightly shorter in size. Bought another generic 9mm box and compared it to the Federal and it was the same size and would misfeed as well.
Interesting that the Federal 115 wasn't reliable. The gun SHOULD feed all SAMI-spec ammo, but Taurus QC does seem to leave something to be desired.
@@shadowwolf2524 I ended up lightly polishing the feed ramp and I have not had an issue since. I had no luck with their support either. Hopefully you can find a solution without sending it back.
@@poke2748 Good. I'm glad you got it going. I don't believe the feed ramp is my problem. I've did the "plunk" test with 13 different types of rounds. 3 hit the rifling and don't turn or fall out of the chamber. All 3 that failed are Federal. 115 fmj, 124gr FMJ and 147gr Hydra Shoks. The 124's lock the slide up. But all other rounds I've tried pass. Kinda crazy! But as long as I know what works I'll just use it. No big deal. But it should work with the Federal. I always figure if I get a Taurus I better I better be able to work on it. Their so called "customer service' SUCKS !! Lmao
I have this gun and a shield; the shield's feeding ramp is wider to help with the many Hollow points out there. I do find it not easy to have the right kind of hollow points, so the g3c will function, others seem to have little problems.
I've found that some Taurus G3c pistols will run any ammo, others are very picky. Thanks for watching.
Watching Hickock45's G3c review (and shooting lots of FEDERAL ammo) and then seeing this G3c review is like being in two different realities.
Elessar, thank you for watching and commenting. I've found that with many guns, particularly "budget" guns, the quality control may not be consistent. There are many that work very well, but some seem to slip through that aren't as accurate, aren't as reliable, or just aren't built quite as well as the majority. I'm comfortable enough with my G3c that I carry it when working around my property, but I prefer other guns when I go out in public.
This is my first owned gun, and I love it.
The g3c, Taurus.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Seems the G series has always been prone to issues with flat nosed hollow points. You can fix this issue with 600-800 grit sandpaper and polishing the feed ramp and lower feed ramp that’s on the lower.
Thank you for watching.
@@RidersRange thanks for making the video! I also found something weird. The 15 round G3 mag, which works in the g3c, doesn’t create this problem with any hollow points. Weird but now I’m thinking its an issue with the nose dive of the first few bullets in the stock 12rnd mags.
@@NoNew42 thanks for the info. I may have to pick up a G3 mag to try it.
I've had the Taurus Taurus G2C and the G3C. The G3C is a refined version of the G2C.
Glock compatible sights which I promptly put night sights on it right away. The trigger is better than the previous model, but certainty not as good as the Canik. I've had pretty good luck with the Taurus Taurus G2C and the G3C.
It is my truck gun, I carry a Ruger SR9C for my EDC which also has a manual safety and a better trigger.
Taurus has made some huge strides in the right direction. The safety issue? Well, you would have to continuously put it into that condition and a newbe might inadvertently do that, but most experienced shooters wouldn't.
Good honest review of a affordable handgun that does offer quite a bit for the money invested.
Thanks for watching and for adding your comments.
I’d disagree on new owners putting it on accidentally. The safety is very positive and you’d have to be pretty moronic to accidentally activate it unless you’re using a crappy holster. You gotta have more faith in new owners.
@@totalnewb123
The gun has to be in a certain condition for the safety situation to occur. If the trigger is partially pulled past a certain point, yes it can happen. Under normal circumstances, it absolutely works as its supposed to. No offense to new shooters intended.
@@aaamericanlocksmithincstev2789 non taken sir. And thank you for the reply.
I definitely see how the none adjustable rear sight would be an issue.
I have two G2s Taurus's that needed alot of raising of the rear sight to get them to point of aim.
I was surprised you had issues with the 124 grain bullets as I have used brand new 124 grn FMJ Magtechs with no feeding or extraction issues.
My groups with both of my G2s are great at 7 yards and 10 yards.
Both are surprisingly accurate for me.
Every gun can have it's issues .....hopefully you can find the solutions for you to be happy with the G3c.
With some guns it's just a matter of finding that ammo that it likes best. Thanks for watching.
They usually sell in the $230-250 range. A lot of gun for the money.
I have the G2c, been a great little gun.
Mr. Bill, the G2c can still be found for that price range, but with all the panic buying going on now, the G3c is going for close to - or above - $300. But it is still a good value. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I've had the G2,G2c,g3, and received my 2nd g3c a few hours ago. I had a few jammers thru breakers periods with some of them, less than 4 times maybe. But the only time I had serious issues was with the G2 shooting some exotic frangible 90 grain rounds at the range on day. And after market pro mags wouldn't cycle any hollow points with any of the Tauruses I've had. With everyone I've owned, after about 100 rounds and EOS mags, ive had no issues with them, except those 90 grain frangible arounds.
Thank you for watching and adding your thoughts.
I THOROUGHLY enjoyed this video! This is precisely the information I was looking for. Thank you, very much!
Leroy, thank you for watching and adding your kind comment.
G2 and G3 both use the same holster. If you have a good kydex holster that covers the safety you'll never have to worry about it moving on you unknowingly. And if you still have your finger on the trigger while engaging your safety then you shouldn't be allowed to handle a firearm.
Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.
I just got a g3c at $275 it won't replace my 38 snub nose but I'm looking forward to putting some lead down range with it
hopefully it'll be easier to conceal carry while I'm sitting in a wheelchair
Leo, thanks for watching and commenting. If you haven't done so already, you may want to check out Wheeled And Well Armed UA-cam channel. He does a lot on carrying while in a wheelchair. ua-cam.com/users/WheeledandWellArmed
@@RidersRange thanks for the tip
U will be good with 115 or 124 grains it will run awesome thats good power for ur taurus 👍💪💪💪👍
Thanks for watching.
Purchase myg3c...a month ago... excellent ccp for the...$$$$ Thanks Taurus...ya did good on this model
Taurus QC seems to allow some inconsistencies. Goad you got a good one.
I guess I've been one of the lucky ones, no problems so far, but keep in mind it's barely broken in at 200-300+rounds. I use 115grain Hornady(115gr critical defense, might switch to duty once they're available again) for carry, and fired about 75 rounds with no issues. I have had one fail to fire with some cheap range ammo(prices omg, come on!), easily cleared with a second pull(dbl strike, it works!), no tap n rack needed. We've got to remember, that MANY of these were made in the last year, and the more demand for them, the more chance of human error. You can expect about 5-8 weeks for turn around if you send it to Taurus, but first they'll tell you to make sure you've run 200-300 rounds thru it to break it in...as afar as the safety, with that long a pull to the wall, it's kind of redundant, obviously if you're in a home with children, please us it. If I have the safety on, it's usually for a purpose, people at the house, children, etc...otherwise, it's safety off, 1 chambered, in my MFT holster. I love this little gun, whatever tiny nitpicks I had, I'm used to now, but I can only speak for me. I was willing to pay out for something in the 6-700 range, but this one, just made sense, and I don't regret it.
jey Lee, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts and experience with the G3c. Mine has become my "around home when I'm doing chores" gun. I'm comfortable with it's reliability and I just have to remember to hold over my target a little bit.
I've noticed the magazine being the issue. It didn't like the Norma brand self defense rounds. So, I tried the Sig brand self defense rounds and those worked fine. The Norma range/training rounds also worked fine.
Looks like you found what to feed yours. Thanks for watching.
I've had a problem with hollow points first day shooting mine with 115grain jhp. I went through different grains the next day. I found that 147grain jhp will cycle fine. Same with 124grain. But, I must say 147grain jhp has cycled the best between the three.
Thanks for watching and for adding the info.
I have the taurus G3C i paid $270for i have yet to see one for $300 or more and it has been very accurate with that been said it does NOT have glock sights it can accept the same sights as glock but glock comes with cheap plastic sights and as far as the trigger goes the take up is a safety feature so as to not have an accidentally misfire and the safety is a low profile yet not impossible but unlikely to unintentionally to put into safety mode
Maybe this is just me But I don't consider the G3C a budget gun it's a reasonable price gun unlike others where you're paying for the name
Thomas, I guess "budget" is a subjective term. When one is used to paying $500 for a Glock or $1,500 for a good 1911, $300 is more of a "budget" gun. However, the G3c is a great value at that price. If the Taurus quality holds up, I would think they could bump that up by a third and still sell all they could make,
I picked up a g3c for 319 shipped on gunbroker.
I picked up my GC3 for $300 including tax. Pretty good deal.
My G3c came with steel sights....The sights are not Glock sights, but they take them! I put Tru glow tritium Glock sights on and they fit like a glove..
I had a g2c I traded in, though I wouldn’t mind picking up a g3c as a backup. But the g2c didn’t have too many issues with any ammo I ran through it, brass cased anyway since that’s where the range I go to requires you to use. It seemed that after a few hundred rounds or so on the g2c that the gun really started to do better and loosened up a bit by 1000 rounds give or take.
Thanks for adding your thoughts.
@@RidersRange thanks. An update a few months ago I actually did pick up a g3c with the stainless slide. Nice looking gun in my opinion. Put a hogue beavertail on it, it’s pretty nice. Still need to break it in a bit more. It runs practice shells just fine but occasionally a little trouble chambering the first hollow point. Maybe just running it more will loosen it up. Definitely keeping it for a house gun as a backup. For what you pay they really are fine weapons.
Loved your review BUT Taurus now ONLY ships the G3c with 2 Mags not 3. I picked mine up on 05/07/24 so I'm not sure when the change was made but I was very disappointed as 3 Mags was a selling point for me. Stay Safe and have a Great Day.
a friend of mine got one 2 weeks ago with 3 mags early june 2024
@@sevendoubleodex bought mine 2 weeks ago mid june 2024 and it came with only 2. bass pro shops
3.2 in barrel = low left. Step up to heavier bullets and practice. Short barrel guns will magnify the slightest errors in your trigger action. I can now get consistent 3 in groups with 124gr (better with 147gr) at 20 yards but it's not forgiving of the smallest movements.
Uhh.....practice?? You must be new to the channel. I shoot 12-15,000 rounds every year, National ranked PPC competitor spanning 3 decades, NRA Distinguished and 1490 club, former Michigan State PPC Champion. I don't shoot low left. But thanks for watching and commenting.
@@RidersRange But do you shoot with that sub-compact? Comp shooters use specialty guns tuned for accuracy and practice endlessly with their gun. That's not an off the shelf $250 short barrel G3c. I'm just telling you what I've experienced, low left misses are so common in subcompacts using "light" bullets that it's almost a foregone conclusion. Lighter smaller guns (barrels or ammo) means more movement on the shot and it's a matter of maximizing the hardware and minimizing the movement... it's not the gun. Congrats on your level of achievement, I'm new to the channel yes.
I found with hollow points if you dont rack the first bullet fast it will hang up.After racking it fast with hollow points it runs great.I had no problems with ball ammo.I love my G3C and shoot it a couple times each week and it runs great.Honest Outlaw does do some great videos and is one heck of a shooter.I just subbed to your channel.
David, thanks for watching. I haven't experienced any issues with Federal 124gr HST rounds, but I always use full spring force to chamber a round. I'll have to try it slowly to see what happens.
I carry federal HST 124g +p and I had the exact same experience with my g3c. Not an issue just need to bring the slide all the way back and let go. It doesn't happen with my m&p though lol
@@fuckantifa515 I got the racking down and it chambers them perfectly now.
I just picked up a G3c recently and finally got around to taking it to the range today (first time firing it). I was using Winchester 115 grain practice rounds (100 count) and my gun locked up on me multiple times... and by multiple times I don't mean 2-3 I mean more like 15 times or more. The carry ammo I bought for it had a clip of Federal 124 grain personal defense w/ Hydra-shok and that fired the entire clip without any issues. At the moment I'm blaming Winchester because I was unable to fire 3 bullets even after I tried putting them back in a clip a couple of times and all three would not fire each time I retried them, so I'm guessing bad primers or just bad quality control.
I'm experiencing more and more fails to fire with basic range ammo these days, even from name brand manufacturers.
An update, a new G3C non-manual safety model is just being released now. Just recently appeared on the Taurus website.
It was only a matter of time. Thanks for watching.
SIG P226 magazines fit the Taurus G series, and unfortunately Glock fan boys will never ever admit that any other gun is just as good or better. Oh well, opinions and other such.
Wallaby, the G3c has a lot going for it. It's probably the best value out there for a compact 9mm. I have several Glocks in the safe, but my go-to pistol when I'm working around the range and doing household projects is the G3c, not a Glock.
Comparing/reviewing a $300 gun to a $500 + gun isn’t a comparison/review. I have hundreds of rounds through my G3C without fail (it’s only a couple months old). I expect that to continue which others have done. And as far as the wonky safety/trigger ding, who does this? I’ve found that the G3C likes 147 grain rounds. You can’t replace practice and getting to know how your gun shoots and with what ammo it likes to eat.
The whole point of comparing guns in different price brackets is often to show that more money doesn't always equate to better. In our 22-part The Great Affordable 1911 Series, less expensive guns often performed as well as, or even better than, the more expensive guns. It's hard to beat a G3c at the price point and it holds its own against several more expensive pistols. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
Curious if you tried hollow points my g3c doesn’t like them. Yes polished ramp not happy
@@luckycharms8443Rack the slide fast as hell with that 1st hollow point and it will feed.After that it will cycle just fine through the rest.I had the same problem and you can also rack it again fast and it will feed.Good luck.
I recently bought this for concealed carry. Sounds like im gonna need alot of practice with it before carrying it. I guess I'll stick with my Glock for now.
Well was looking at one of these new for $229. Felt really nice in my hand. Thinking about adding another 9mm to what I already have for carrying. At this price it's hard to pass up. Even if that means upgrading the sights.
Tom, $229 is a fantastic price for the G3c. That's what the G2c is usually going for, but the G2c uses proprietary sights, while the G3c uses easily available Glock sights.
UPDATE: I talked to Taurus this morning (06/20/24) and the G3c does come with 3 mags, UNLESS the retailer has requested less and mine for some reason mine decided to only sell the G3c with 2 mags. So bottom line if your looking to buy this gun make sure to ask how many mags your going to get because Taurus ships 3, so I guess it buyer be ware. Stay Safe and have fun.
I enjoy your reviews, Rider. thanks
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Mine accurate as hell with any ammo up 2 @20 yards my bro got one too no PROBLEMS at all - mine front got loose so i used locktight good to good now - i shoot everyday from 380-9-40-45-10mm-5.7 - Me myself i have no PROBLEMS with the g2c or G3C - my g2c has over 10,000 rounds thru it nothing has broken yet funny can't say that for my CZ Rami or CZ 97 - MY FULLY CUSTOMIZED TRISTAR P120 HAS OVER 10,000 ROUNDS TRIGGER SPRINGS FAILED AND SLIDE STOP BROKE P120 MY GREAT GUN ALL MY 1911 HAVE BROKEN WELL BE4 - 10,000 ROUNDS - MY GLOCKS HAVE FAILED - FN 5.7 FAILED - SIG 1911 FAILED - RIA 10MM FAILED - REMINGTON RECON DOUBLE STACK HAS FAILED - ITS AMAZING HOW MY FOUR TAURUSES HAVEN'T FAILED YET - MY SAR ARMS P8S HAVEN'T FAILED YET EITHER BUT JUST OVER 1000 ROUNDS THRU IT NOW - GREAT VIDEO
GTO EXPRESS, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts. Taurus has come a long way in the past few years.
Almost believed you, until you said, "My Glocks have failed" I'm almost 60, I've never had a Glock fail, don't even know anyone that has had a Glock fail. Maybe it's the shooter.
Gunsquawk 44, I carried a Glock (17, 19, 22, 23, 27) for the final 24 years of my law enforcement career, so obviously I believe in their reliability. My department changed from revolvers to Glocks in 1988, so eventually all 100+ members of the department were carrying Glocks and there was the occasional failure. However, virtually all were ammo related (I've had several), magazine related (I've had a couple of those, also), or new shooters "limp wristing" the gun. But those are still "failures".
Love my g3c! Mine shoots good with everything 115 124 and 147! The 147 groups really tight. I have underwood 147 gr +p loaded with Nosler bullets in mine. I went to buy a S&W shield plus. Came home with the g3c instead.
Thank you for watching and adding your thoughts on the G3c.
@@RidersRange have you tested a hellcat?
Yes, I tested the Hellcat RDP a little more than three years ago. Search my channel for that review.
@@RidersRange I did just didn’t go back far enough. Thanks
I probably got around 800 rounds through mine with no issues other than my spotty aiming :) I've only used CCI Blazer 115gr though.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
IMHO, Ransom did a piss-poor test of this gun. Every gun is ammo sensitive to some degree, in that some guns seem to prefer a particular bullet weight from a specific manufacturer. I can't think of a single gun I've ever owned that wasn't like that. While I can understand the testing was done during that long dry spell for 9mm ammo and what could be found was quite expensive, they gave up on the gun shooting lighter bullet weights far too early, and didn't even complete testing it with the other sub-147 grain loads they already had out. Many, many times have I had to try a few different manufacturer's loads, all the same bullet weight, before I found one brand the gun "liked" and shot well. Ransom's test was more like a random test of 147-grain loads after the first couple of lighter loads. Far more telling would have been using different weight loads from the same company, and doing this with a few other companies. This gun does have a different kind of ammo sensitivity though, that being that sharp-edged JHP rounds are prone to jamming. I've had jams right on the feed ramp using Federal Hydro-Shok Deep 135 gr., Barnes VOR-TX 115 gr. rounds, and even Federal 124 gr. HSTs will sometimes get the edge of the bullet cavity stuck on the feed ramp. Thinking it just needed breaking in I ran a few hundred FMJ through then tried the JHPs again with the same result. I've polished the feed ramp, replaced the barrel with a Lakeline DLC, and tried different numbers of rounds in the three mags, the jams continued. At this point in time, the pistol is staying in my safe until I can get to the range again and test it with some Hornady Critical Defense rounds. Hopefully, those will feed reliably, otherwise, mine will be for sale at my LGS.
When you buy a pistol, it's always good:
Poir the pipe ramp
Check charger springs
Remove excess oil and grease that comes from the factory to conserve the weapon to stay in the store
Thanks for watching.
never had an issue with 124, all my pistols like that weight including this one.
I've found that on occasion, different guns like different ammo. My G3c likes 147gr, but yours may prefer 124. But it often depends on the brand.
“Are you listening, Kimber?” 😂🤣😂 Seriously, how does such an expensive gun as a Kimber only come with one mag?
As to the Taurus, my long-term review will be out probably next month sometime. Still waiting on a holster for it. I gotta say on the accuracy, I’ve never had that issue. But I also don’t shoot at 50 yards with pistols and if I did, I probably wouldn’t choose this one. For combat purposes, defensive purposes, 15 yards and in, it gets the job done. If I need to shoot further than that I’ll either run or grab a rifle.
It's a decent gun at a very nice price point. I'm sure it will serve as an adequate defense pistol for those on a budget. Of course, now that I'm retired, I guess I should be on a budget. I'm anxiously awaiting your long-term review. And we missed you again this morning.
@@RidersRange I know. I meant to do a live video this morning but I forgot, so I may just release a video tomorrow.
Clearly I missed out on an invitation to the party ....My G2C will reliably feed any defensive JHP round I stuff in the magazines (I carry two spare magazines when toting ANY semi-auto pistol in ANY caliber or two speed loaders if my CW of choice happens to be a revolver ). So why does the G3C exist? I purchased my G2C for two main reasons #1: Even fully loaded it conceals nicely (and doesn't rust) during the muggy summers here in South Carolina and does not feel like I'm toting a cinder block between my skin and my jeans #2: If I learned anything as a career LEO (I retired after 27 years in 2010) defensive "gunfights" rarely extend beyond five yards.....Though we TRAINED out to fifty yards! As for sights I've been required to qualify with with everything from revolvers equipped with "iron" sights milled into the frame and blade front sights as on S&W "pencil barrel" Model 10s to those found on Sig P220s and S&W M&P .45ACP handguns. I also learned that sights are nice if you are "sniping" a target from "long range" but for defensive purposes at "close range" sights are basically worthless. So again, why does the G3C exist and what does it bring to the party, so to speak, that the G2C does not?
Thanks for watching and commenting. All good points. I haven't owned a G2c, but for me, the main advantage of the G3c is the option to use readily available Glock sights. (Taurus sights are a little better than stock Glock sights, but not much.) (P.S. I retired in 2012 after 38 years, and like you, I had to qualify over the years with a Model 10, as well as my off-duty gun - a Model 38.)
@@RidersRange My primary off duty and backup handgun, for over ten years was a stainless steel, DAO, Taurus M85 loaded with either 125grn JHP+ or 158grn LSWCHP +P ammo depending on availability and/or time of year. I think the reason I dislike Glocks the way I do is their blocky design and poor, at best, trigger pulls (yes I know, some folks including LEOs, can't figure out how to keep their fingers off the trigger when drawing/"presenting" their handguns). By the way, due to the muggy weather we have here in South Carolina, I decided to trade in an otherwise perfectly serviceable blue steel Taurus M85 DA/SA for the above mentioned stainless steel DAO model. Also, any company that made it's "bones" making "plastic" entrenching tools (I'm looking at you Glock) that broke on a regular basis fails to meet my personal quality standards....Something I learned while I was in the Army. When I worked plain clothes and as an investigator (burglary/homicide/major crimes) I was issued, at one time or another, Chief's Specials, Colt's Detective Specials and for one Golden Moment, a 2 1/2in Model 19 S&W. Of course the absolute best, wish I had it today, Road Dog Service Revolver was a nickel plated, 4in, Colt's Trooper Mk III which at fifty yards from a prone position could reliably place rounds center mass on targets at fifty yards. Today, despite not being a huge fan of ANY 9mm handgun I carry my G2C in the late spring through late summer while also keeping it close to hand as our SECONDAY home defense gun....Secondary to a Mossberg 500 loaded with a slug and 000 buck every other round mix out of a 20in rifle sighted "riot" barrel....But then there is my faithful old "Winter Concealed Carry" pistol in the form of a stainless steel, DAO, "compact" S&W semi auto in .40S&W stoked with 155grn, +P, SJHPs which will be taking the place of the G2C come about the end of this month or early October depending or when I start tucking in my shirt tails and wearing a light jacket again.....And by the way....I am a subscriber to your channel as of 09/09/2021!
@@fdmackey3666 thank you very much for subscribing and for your detailed comment. I can't say I'm a Glock fan, but I did carry a Glock of one model or another for 24 years, mainly because that was the mandatory gun of my department starting in 1988 and I just got used to it. Now that I'm retired, I much prefer a 1911-style pistol and carry a Staccato C DUO almost every day. But I still have a fondness for a nice revolver.
Just something NEW for people to want/buy.... HOWEVER I'm a person that doesn't go with the INNOVATION THING I use & CARRY what has been out in the shooters hands & on the market for a WHILE!!!! IMO... INNOVATION could get you KILLED
The trigger on the G3c is much more comfortable, not sharp edged like the G2c. It also has a better finish, glock sights work on them. Never had 1 jam yet on any ammo. I even load several different types of ammo in 1 mag, rapid fire with no problems as of yet.
I don't like the white dot because of my vision. I prefer Night Sights but with that said the Taurus G3C is worth way more than $300 without a doubt! I love my G3c
You get the features of a $600-$800 gun.
Compared to something like the Glock 43x it's unbelievably amazing for the money.
1. It has 3 steel mags
2. It has restrike capability
3. It has good grips
4. It has metal sights
5. Glock and many brand compatible sights including TruGlo
6. Red dot ready
7. Tenifer Matte Black Coating that protects it from rust and corrosion.
8. Has a Teflon coating on the controls
I don't know of a sub $300 gun that has all that in fact, it would cost you $850 to get all that on the Glock 43x
For $124 you can get an aftermarket Target Threaded barrel (3.8") which increases accuracy and put a suppressor on it or get a compensator to reduce vertical recoil for $20 all from Lakeline LLC
Cameron, I agree with all except #6 - the G3c isn't available with an optic cut, though I would expect Taurus to offer that at some point.
@@RidersRange it accepts Glock sights and the red dots that use the mount on back sight
Unlike the G2, it's very easy to switch out the sights, as Cameron mentioned, they do accept Glock sights as well.
Best info vid i have seen!! To many people on well known channels saying "just ignore the safety". It could literally cost your life!
Thank you for watching and adding your thoughts.
yeah
Just picked one of these up from someone who needed the cash. 115 or 147gr ammo FTF 14 times on 3 mags. I used factory FMJ ammo from Blazer, S&B, and Winchester. I put it away in disgust. I ran the same ammo in my XD9 mod 2 and had no FTF. FWIW, I cleaned the gun after purchase and it sat in my safe for a few months. I checked it out prior to heading to the range and it still had a light oil as expected. I will not be carrying this weapon. I'll stick to my XD or Glock as I have no confidence in the G3c.
Taurus QC seems to be hit or miss - some G3c pistols work just fine, others, not so much. Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.
Mines ate sig v crown 124gr no problem
Being that it was designed to be a CCW and personal defense firearm it liking heavier weight ammo is not entirely a bad thing. The stock sights are okay to start with but swapping them out for some quality fiberoptic front and blacked out rear like on the TP9sf Elite really improves the accuracy. I found that the 138gr Federal Syntech defense runs really nice through the G3C. I also found that if you run lower grain weight loads that plus-P helps return the accuracy you found with the 147gr. I ran some Underwood 124gr plus-P jacketed hollowpoints with acceptable performance at 12 yards. I will say this the low & left issue in my opinion, is due to the amount of travel in the trigger and the distance between backstrap and where the trigger breaks. Those with larger hands using the pad of the trigger finger to fire will end up pushing the gun left in finalizing the pull through the wall. It is not an uncommon phenomenon and is only noticeable on the paper and in slow motion of high-speed video recordings. There is a gentleman that makes aftermarket trigger shoes that compensate for this by the name of Keeptinkering. Check out his UA-cam channel and his Pseudo-Backstrap trigger. I put one in my buddies G2C and it made all the difference in the world.
Killa, thanks for watching and providing your thoughts. I shot competitively long enough to not have the usual low-left issues, even with triggers that have over-travel, and several other reviewers who are also very good shots have had the same problems.
As to the different ammo, I didn't try it with any +P or defensive loads. If I were to carry the G3c I would dip into my carry ammo and it would probably bring up the point of impact. But with ammo prices and availability issues these days, I'm not generally running it through guns that I don't intend to carry.
@@RidersRange completely understandable. I was just relaying my experience with the firearm and the issues I have seen people have through the years of shooting competitively and serving as a trainer. I am no professional by any means and have been out of the competitors arena for quite some time now. I think that it is like anything else you need to spend some time getting to know its personality quirks and make some tweaks here and there. I spent many hours with it and its predecessors and would say that straight out of the box it is finicky and that it is not a firearm that you leave the store go to your car load up and through on your side it requires range time and some fine tuning but it has proven reliable for me thus far 750 rounds down and no malfunctions. I did however tear it down polish the feedramp and all the firegroup components. The G3C is not my first rodeo with Taurus firearms.
I hope that you did not think that I was questioning your shooting skills because that was certainly not my intent. There are a few upgrades that a person can do that really makes the G3C a great performer.
@@killacoiler1707 thanks for the additional info. I wouldn't hesitate to carry the G3c, though I would change the sights and do more ammo testing to find what it likes best. I'm fortunate to have other options that I like better, so I'm considering giving the G3c to my sister (with new sights) for her first defensive pistol.
First test fire at the range the G3C was down and to the left. The rear site out of the box was clearly off. I had it adjusted and the pistol fired straight yet still low. I figured it may be in my grip. Still haven't had an opportunity to re-try my grip adjustment.
There are many reasons for consistently shooting low that are shooter related, with trigger press and looking at the target after each shot being paramount. But it also could be the gun. Try some 124gr or 147gr ammo and see if that makes a difference. It seems counterintuitive, but heavier ammo often prints higher on the target.
You can get different mags with more capacity from Taurus
Thanks for the info.
I have one and it is accurate with lighter loads you just have to practice with it.
dwillhight, thanks for watching. I put several different types of 9mm ammo through it again recently and it shoots well enough for general defense, but still nowhere near as accurate as most of my other guns.
Thank youuu I thought either my gun was shooting low or I was just ass but my Canik hit right on target, for me to hit bulls eye with my Taurus I had to aim a couple inches above
That seems to be the problem with many G3c pistols.
I love how so many reviewers show how it fux up when you operate incorrectly.
Fishfry, that's probably because there are many folks who operate firearms incorrectly, mainly due to poor training -- or no training at all. I can only guess that's more of a problem now with something like 8 million new gun owners in the past year. Thanks for watching and for adding your comment.
I agree with all you said about the G3C. While I dont have one I do have a G2C. I purchased this 2 years ago when Rural King had a special for 189. The gun has worked perfectly at around 1500 rounds but the finish on the slide is no good. I had wear on slide in just 2 months of use. I did try my safety like you did yours and mine sounded like the striker didnt release all the way. I am gonna try a case with just a primer only and see if mine strikes the primer. My carry you didnt mentioned is the Walther PPSM2. But all you mentioned are great guns no doubt. Great video as always
Scott, as always, thanks for watching and commenting. I couldn't add the Walther to the comparison, because, believe it or not, I don't own any Walther pistols anymore.
great comments, especially on the thumb safety. nice range layout!
Thanks for watching.
I absolutely love my g3c! The best gun i have ever owned! mine will take any amo i put thru it. But my g2c has a lil trouble with steel case amo and i think i've narrowed it down to a narrower load ramp. side note, that indicator hole to see if the g3c is loaded is beyond useless because unless u have super vision, u cant see shit in there. Although i need glasses even with them on i cant see a dam thing in there. Otherwise that gun is worth every penny and dead reliable every time.
Being a 1st dan practitioner in tkd. The only holsters I prefer is level 2 retention. Ik it's a long shot but I don't feel comfortable kicking if my gun comes flying out, odds are that if I need to defend myself I will use the gun. However I just like having the option available.
Thanks for watching and adding your comment. During my entire 38-year law enforcement career I used a holster with a safety strap (thumb break), which was more secure than a Level 1, but not as secure as a Level 2. For your kind of activity I can see why you want the extra security, though it may be difficult to find one for the Taurus.
I had to pay $339. For mine recently. My TX22 is definitely ammo sensitive. Will only fire high speed ammo. So far my G3C fires everything
Taurus quality control seems to be spotty. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Damn where did you order? I literally just got mines brand new $199.
@@kennyharmon1836 your probably living in a red state where they believe in freedom. I live in the hell they call NJ
Superb vid.. Yoo!!! I just grabbed mines too. G3c
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video. I love mine. Perfect fit in my fat hand. I haven't shot any 147 gr. Guess I need to. One issue I had, and I am sure it is my fault, is not racking the slide fast enough to load the first round (a hollow point). It hung and didn't go up the ramp and into the chamber. I carry it every day. Liked it better than the G26 so I sold it. Still thinking about buying another one just because. I added a 15rd from Taurus with their factory designed sleeve and it became a 15+1. :) NOTE: My son bought the P365XL. I haven't shot it yet, but just holding it made me decide I didn't like it because the hand grip is too thin for my liking. And BTW, why shoot 50yds when you will probably be accosted from 21 feet or less? Just sayin'.
Michael, thank you for watching. I'm okay with my G3c when working around the "ranch" and I trust it, but it's not my favorite defense gun. I agree that the grip on the P365 it small. I added a Hogue HandAll grip sleeve to mine and it makes a huge difference. As to shooting at 50 yards, there are a couple reasons: 1) I want to see what the gun is capable of in my hands; and 2) If I know it can hit small targets at 50 yards, I KNOW it will hit what I want at closer distances. Those who do all their practice at 7 yards and closer - because that is the statistical "average" (which it isn't) - never know what they can do under stress at greater distances IF the need arises. I do most of my sighting in at 15 and 25 yards and I rarely practice closer than 12 yards.
Doesn't load flat headed 147gr bullets easily. Chamber a pointed end bullet first and subsequent flat headed ammo will auto rack.
I love my g3c
It's a nice, affordable, reliable pistol. Thanks for watching.
Que lástima q, yo no sepa inglés , me encanta estás novedades . Desde Argentina , muchas gracias por estar.
Gracias por ver. Espero que UA-cam se traduzca correctamente en los subtítulos.
wolf is the only ammo this gun doesn't like, and it'll cycle that stuff 98% of the time.. i love mine.
Doesn't like reloads
@@somenoonsomenoon8874 My G3c Dose not like wide Hollow Points.
Rubs on the Ramp. but other then that, My G3c Has LakeLine Steel Parts.
I Replaced all plastic questionable parts.
I noticed you place a lot of emphasis on accuracy at 50 yards but isn't it true that most self defense uses take place under 10 yards?
The "statistical average" for a defensive situation is less than 10 yards. However, I don't train to the statistics, I train to the unicorns. If I only shoot at 10 yards or less, I don't know how I will perform with my gun at greater distances, should the need arise. But if I know how I perform with a gun at 25 or 50 yards, I KNOW I can perform with it at closer distances. Plus, I like the challenge of hitting small targets at 50 yards with a small gun.
The young man who stopped there active shooter at three Greenwood Mall near Indianapolis, Indiana shot for more than 60 yards.
I'm finding the same result of shooting low left. Glad you pointed out that it's ammo sensitive. It was a similar problem on the G2C. I replaced the sights initially, and adjusted, but it was still shooting low. I contacted the sight manufacturer, and they gave me taller sights to compensate. I've addressed this issue with the G3C with the sight manufacturer as I also changed these out on this model. They have yet to reply to me. (I think they are understaffed or something with these Covid19 days). Anyway, I think maybe it might have to do with the barrel rifling or twist rate. I don't plan on shooting anything beyond 25 yrds so this isn't too big an issue with me. Just an annoyance.
Mel, I don't know what Taurus goes through to determine what height sights to use, but with all the reviews showing the gun not shooting to point of aim, I have to wonder if they actually do any testing at all.
@@RidersRange I consider it part of their learning curve to becoming a more reputable gun manufacturer. Enough complaints and they'll look into it as they've certainly done to their designs and general quality control of their current offerings. Plus it might be ammo related. It's a defensive handgun, and not an adjustable race gun. So the philosophy to it might not be to super accuracy. In my experience its eaten through all my ammo types with zero issues; aside from the one I'm posting. As my gun is currently configured and working, I still trust it as my EDC. Just not happy with the POI being off from my G2C, which for all intensive purposes not far from the G3C.
Mel, mine has been completely reliable and I wouldn't hesitate to carry it, understanding that it does shoot low. IF I elected to carry it (big IF, as I have others that I prefer), I would change the sights to correct the POA/POI issues, though it would work as is at close range.
@@RidersRange The factory sights were aiming low. I changed them for night sights anyway. They still aim low. We're not talking much. About 2-3 inches at 15yds. I normally cover the bullseye with the dot. I don't hold at the 6. If I did that, it would shoot even lower. On my G2C (for all intensive purposes the same gun), the sight manufacturer sent me replacement for the same issue. Fixed it as far as I'm concerned. I contacted them about this, but still haven't heard back. At under 15yds, I'm not highly concerned about the POI being a few inches low. Just the only lingering thorn in my side for this gun. Otherwise, I've made all the modifications and happy with it. My response post was just to see if others are experiencing this issue.
@@melc8049 thanks for the additional info.
Is prepping the trigger and then slapping on the safety a normal procedure for any gun?
Meh Gusta, I hope that isn't a normal practice, but with all the new gun owners, it wouldn't surprise me if there are those who will do just that.
No, it's not. Ignore that nonsense. If I picked up a firearm for the very first time, engaging the safety mid trigger pull would never cross my mind. This is one of those things in my opinion that shouldn't be demonstrated in the first place. Demonstrating how to handle a firearm incorrectly serves no purpose other than transferring and instilling those bad habits in viewers who don't know any better. I would never teach someone to engage the manual safety mid trigger pull. It's illogical.
With that being said, I'm not trying to bash Mr. Rider's-Range or TheHumbleMarksman. I understand they're trying to review the firearm in its entirety and demonstrate all of the firearm's capabilities.
The best safety in my opinion is to keep your booger hook off the bang switch until you're ready and certain that you want to discharge the firearm. That's what I've been taught my entire life by family, friends and most recently my BLET instructors. It has worked out pretty well for me so far and has always made the most sense.
How you train is how you'll react in real world situations. Be smart and train the correct way every time you handle a firearm. Just my two cents.
Excellent analysis
Luis, thanks for watching and for your kind compliment.
Probably not gonna get outstanding accuracy in cold weather (bullet drop) with the wind blowing and wearing gloves. As long as you can lob them in when it counts though, that's all that matters. Friend had some jamming problems with a firearm once and sent to the factory. Turns out it was the 147gn bullets. Factory said short barrel firearms it often short-cycles or FTF, since 147gn designed for a 5" barrel. Good review!!!
I've got a question about a new G2c I bought a few days ago. After field stripping and cleaning the gun, I put a magazine loaded up with American Eagle 124 gr FMJ and chambered a round. It feed the round into the chamber just great. But when I took out the Mag and tried to rack the slide back to eject the chambered round, the slide was stuck. It would only slightly pull back and stop. Just totally locked up. I managed to get it unlocked by holding the back of the slide and smacking the back of the grip.. Once it broke free- the slide came back like normal and the round ejected just fine. I thought it was broke and it was going back to the factory, which I didn't want to do. I've had contact with their customer service. To put it nicely-they SUCK.! So anyway, I thought maybe it was a bad round or just didn't like the AE 124 gr bullet. I then tried some AE 115 gr FMJ. Chambered and ejected those as it should. Slide didn't lock up. Next, I tried Winchester NATO 124 gr. No problems. It worked as good as the AE 115 gr FMJ. I've got several other brands of 9mm. I'm going to dig them out and try them all next. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I'm not even going to try to fire the AE 124 gr- or any others that happen to freeze up the slide. This G2c seems a little picky about the ammo it likes. I've used AE124 gr for several years and never have had a problem with it. Hell, I've never seen a gun lock up like this one does. I do like the gun. If it don't like a brand or 2, I can live with that. I'm thinking maybe it has a tight extractor. It seems to have a very stiff spring. Might just need broken in. Do any of you have any ideas why it would do this with 1 of the 3 loads I've tried so far? Have any of you had this problem with your G2 or G3?
Shadow Wolf, I've had that happen on other guns, but not on my G3c. I usually find one of two issues, though there could be others. (I've never had any issue with 124gr American Eagle.)
1) The bullet of the chambered round contacting the rifling. This will happen with a short lead (distance between the end of the chamber and the start of the rifling), or with a long bullet profile before the shoulder and ogive. I found that if I load Montana Gold 124gr hollow point bullets to my normal overall length, they will hit the rifling in several different guns and lock up as yours did, but 124gr round nose works fine. Next time you try that round, darken the bullet with a Sharpie and see if the rifling leaves marks on the bullet.
2) Oversize cartridge case. I have only had this a couple times with off-brand 9mm steel case, never with any major brand.
Let us know what you find out.
@@RidersRange Update- I tried 5 more different assorted rounds this morning. Geco 124 FMJ, UMC 115 gr FMJ, UMC 124 gr FMJ, UMC 115 gr jhp and Federal 147 gr Hyda-Shok. 2 of each. No problem. All feed and ejected as they should have. Then I tried another 124 gr AE FMJ. It chambered Olay. But locked the slide the same as the 1st one did. It did seem to break loose alittle easier than before. I field stripped the pistol and inspected and cleaned it again. Everything looks good. It just doesn't seem to get along with that load. The AE 124 gr FMJ is one of my favorite 9mm rounds. I've used it in numerous handguns and it's always worked. But I'm happy the Taurus seems to get along with the other 7 loads I tried. And I'm real happy it ain't going back and I dont have to deal with "cough-cough"- Customer service- "cough-cough" !. I need to get out and shoot it. But I've been pretty stingy with my ammo lately. I'm planning on my G2c taking the place of my 38 S&W 642. Holds over twice the rounds and a little more powerfull round. I picked up a "Sticky" pocket holster for it. I've been trying it out around the house and yard. 1st one I've ever tried. I'm impressed so far. It is well made and comfortable and only $25. Anyway, thanks for the help and quick response.
@@shadowwolf7622 one more thing to try: Take the barrel out of the gun and put one of the "problem" rounds in the chamber to see if it goes all the way in without force.
@@RidersRange I tried exacy that this morning when I was messing with it. I put an AE 124 gr FMJ into the barrel. Then, I pushed it in as far as it would go. The round did become stuck and I had to knock it out with a plastic cleaning rod. It was very tight. I believe your idea that that round is touching the rifling when fully seated in the chamber just might be right. That does make since. I've owned a lot of guns over the years but have never seen this happen. I'm glad I noticed this issue. I'll just test any new ammo I get for it before I try and fire them. So far, I've only had 1 out of 8 do this. I do like this G2c. It seems well built and just feels really good in my hand. This quirk I found just reminds me I should check all ammo out before I trust a gun to work with it. You can always have good ammo and a good gun that just are not good together. Overall, I'm very happy with my G2c and glad I finally bought one. I've been thinking about trying one out for a while now. A young couple was looking at this one last week when I was at my local Academy. I started talking with them and told them I thought the Taurus was a great deal for $250. Told them I had heard alot of good things about them. I thought they were going to buy it. But they handed it back to the salesman and walked off. Then the sales guy and me started talking about how good of a deal we both thought it was. He went to put it back in the case and I stopped him. I said "Let me look it over 1st. I think I'll just take it home myself.". I had sworn to never buy another Taurus again 3 years ago after my 2nd Taurus customer service nightmare. And guess what I did earlier today. My youngest son and I went to our local gunstore to browes around. I came back with a new Heritage Rough Rider 22. They had them for $129. Now I have a matched set. I'll confess- I bought one a couple weeks ago- same price. And Taurus owns Heritage now. I guess I'm "Team Taurus" again- lmao! Oh, and I have a Rough Rider put up I bought a few years back. I'll just pray I don't need any service or parts from them. The last time I ordered 2 mags from them, it took Taurus over 10 months for them to get them to me. But dang- I do like some of their guns.
Could it be that you just need to train more with the g3c? It just seems unfair to say that a gun is inaccurate because you didn't hit your target. I think it was Hickock 45 that said something like modern handguns aren't inaccurate, it's more likely that it is the shooter who is inaccurate with that particular gun.
Jun San Diego, it's quite obvious that you wrote your comment without actually watching the entire video. Just a suggestion to be fair to the content creator, as well as those who read the comments: actually watch the entire video before making a comment. I'm sure you wouldn't want to be judged by someone who didn't take the time to gather all the available info.
I did watch the entire video. Which part did I miss? The part where you thought the gun was inaccurate or the part where you thought it was ammo sensitive? Seems to me like a workman blaming his tools and you know how that saying goes, right?
@@junsandiego3703 you must have skipped over the parts where I mentioned other respected reviewers who also had issues with the G3c, or the part where I mentioned that the gun worked better with heavier projectiles -confirmed by Ransom's testing, or the part where I was hitting 10" plates at 50 yards with the 147gr 9mm ammo (17:38-17:46 and again at 19:18), and at 19:30 "it did redeem itself with the right ammunition". For the record, I trust the G3c enough to carry it on occasion. It is a decent gun for the price, as I mentioned at the end of the video. However, there are better options, though they come at a higher price point.
Thank you for the stimulating discussion.
@@RidersRange I remember those parts and they can explain my point as easily as they explain yours. Other respected shooters could have the same shooter error. It's not uncommon for someone right handed to shoot low and left if they are not used to the trigger. Hitting plates at 50 yards can also be because you're getting more comfortable using the gun. Did the gun redeem itself using the right ammo or did you redeem yourself by getting enough practice with the gun? No matter how skilled we are at shooting we still need to get used to a new firearm. It might fit our hands differently or we may need to adjust how we manipulate the weapon. Bottom line is that most of the time we would need to adjust to the weapon first before we can say that it is not working the way it should. Nothing against you. I respect you giving your opinion. I just want to make it clear that this is just YOUR opinion and not a common design flaw of the firearm. Stay safe and have a good day.
@@junsandiego3703 thanks for the feedback. I guess I need to make it more clear that it is my opinion on this particular sample of one.
Nice video would changing the sights help with the accuracy?
I'm sure it would, though it is good enough for normal defense as it is.
What kind of home defense hollow point would be best for my G3c
There are many good defense hollow point rounds available. I can't make a specific recommendation because I don't know what works best in your particular gun. You just need to find what works 100% in your gun.
P365xl grip module will fit on P365. Good amount of hand grip with same smaller slide. Or they sell it as the P365 x series
The grip circumference is the same for the 365 and the XL and it's that small circumference that makes the 365 line "awkward", at least for me. However, I solved that by putting a Hogue HandAll grip sleeve on both of my Sigs.
I just bought the G3c No safety. Still waiting Kygunco to ship my G3c. I hope it's ok. My PT-11G2 still works great. My GX4 shoots left no matter what I do. Waiting for a Lakeline LLC threaded barrel for the GX4.
I've read a lot of reports about the GX4 shooting left, but drifting the rear sight to the right usually takes care of that.
Hi. I bought my g3c last year but because of COVID COMBINED THE RANGE WHERE I SHOOT went out of business I didn’t get to shoot gun until last week. I used Winchester, Federal and Hornaday all at 115grn
I could not fire more than 1 round without the gun jamming. Once in a while it would eject a spent shell but then the next round was angled straight up. I tried everything but never succeeded in firing more than one round without jamming
I am trying to send it back for repair having some problems dealing with personnel.
If it gets fixed will I feel I can ever trust it to carry. I’ll follow up when I get the fixed/repaired gun back
Bill
Thank you for sharing your unfortunate experience with the G3c. I'll be watching for your follow-up.
Been a year what happened???
I have a few g2c's and they are all dead on accurate..weird the g3c wouldn't perform as well..
James, generally, I presume any lack of accuracy is just the particular gun/ammo combination that I used, but a few other reviewers had some issues with their guns, also. Having said that, my G3c is accurate enough for general defensive use.
I agree with you on sights. I like dots, prefer tritium at least on the front. I very much dislike all black and/or target style sights. You are welcome to check out what I have, if you like.
Craig, all black front and rear are my ideal for precision, though not for quick acquisition. For this type of gun, a high-def front sight and a combat "U" notch rear would be my preference. Since the G3c takes Glock sights, there are a lot of options out there. Thanks for watching and commenting.
It's a compact 5 to 7 yards I've got ghost ring sights on mine
As I've replied many times to others, if you only work with your gun at the statistical average defensive distances, you never know how you and your gun will perform outside that mythical "normal" defensive distance. But if you regularly practice with your defensive gun at greater distances - 25 yards with occasional practice at even greater distances - you will perform better with your gun at those "average" distances. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’m late to the game 😂. Just bought a G3C yesterday. They had to order it for me because all they had in stock was the one with a stainless slide, and I wanted solid black. Should be here Tuesday. $300 out the door.
$300 OTD is a decent price. (I paid more than that. 😢) Thanks for watching and commenting.
I over pad fur my G3c 400 I have got ripped off and 30 for federal syntech ammo . But overall I'm very satisfied with the firearm runs really good about a 17 round magazine for it from Taurus take 39 for that but the guns really nice and I'm satisfied with the firearm just overpaid
Just got the G3C 9mm stainless slide with 3 mags for 239 +tax :) Only shot fmj 115 and 124 cci blazer in it runs perfect so far.
43x is a good gun but I really like the g3c but once I figure out the HP feed issues and in racking manually and locked it should be a great gun to carry.
Nothing wrong with the G3c - once you find what ammo it will run 100%. Thanks for watching.
What ammo is best for Taurus G3c???
@@tariqmalik90 any should run fine. Mainly your preference.
This is a good reliable gun dont listen to gun racist or gunsnob who is just tryin to ruin the brand
Floyd, I trust it enough to make it a carry gun when I'm working around the house. Also, I just did a test on a variety of defense ammo - video coming out in a few days. Thanks for watching.
How come I can’t un chamber a live round? Hornady critical defense 115 grain
@@dreadone6894 sorry bout your gun dude i think you got one of those factory lemons not all guns are made the same everytime even expensive brand guns have that you should take it back for warranty repair
@@floydblack7115 sigh I guess I will. Thank for the advise
@@floydblack7115 it’s got some type of copper color scratch on top almost as if they had marked it as bad..
I just got it. Days ago
I just purchased this gun. The first time out, the ammo jammed a few times. If anyone has a recommendation as to how to avoid this problem, I would love to hear from you.
Break it in with a couple hundred rounds of 124 grain ammo and keep it well lubed. If that doesn't cure it, maybe it's time to send it back.
Got my G3c from Rural King 5 months ago for $279.99. I've only ran 20-25 rounds threw it & obviously there were No issues @ all but, its still new so, time will tell! I plan on getting a stainless steel threaded barrel from Lakeline & upgrading several other parts like the recoil spring, firing pin (to eliminate plastic.) I plan on getting the laser & upgrading the mag release,the take down tab, & tridium nite pipe sights along with the extended mag from the pt-111. I AM PLEASED EVEN IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM, I ordered a auto loader from Bloody Wheelsusa & a flush but plate for the mag from (NES on youtube) or NES DESIGNS....EVENTUALLY ID LIKE TO FORM-1 IT & SUPRESS IT.. NEXT, I want a Rock Island Vr60 or vr80 12gauge in the AR platform!
Looks like you have thought it through and have a plan. Thanks for watching.
Awesome video good training as well
I've only been able to take mine out 3 times. This is my first firearm so I haven't had the most practice so idk if it's more of an operator issue rather than a firearm issue but I've been watching plenty of proper sidearm accuracy tip videos to help. I've put about 300 rounds through mine with 115 grain ammo & the accuracy seems iffy to me. My friends say it's my recoil anticipation & are slightly better with accuracy with it but I still feel like in noticing it's a little inaccurate in their hands but I feel like it's hitting low & to the left. The next time I go I'm buying bigger grain rounds but any recommendations would be nice
Low and left does sound like recoil compensation. The G3C does like those heavier loads, try out a 147 grain and see how that does. It isn't going to be very accurate anyway, it's a compact concealable weapon with loose tolerances meant for very close engagements (pushing past 20 meters is gonna take some skill). Shorter barrels are just less accurate and that also means they have a shorter sight radius which compounds the issue, it's just the nature of the beast. If you have a TORO then a red dot will eliminate that sight radius issue, though
@Beta, a couple things: 1) shooting low left is a common issue for right-handed shooters, but many guns aren't properly sighted in at the factory, particularly the less-expensive ones; 2) I've found that the G3c does seem to like the 147gr ammo getter than 115 or 124.
Completely focus on the front sight... I mean completely.. hold gun as hard as you can. .. Pull slowly so you dont know when the round will go off.... Dry fire your gun hundreds of times without making it move... most important.. only focus on front sight.. canot stress this... this is the most important thing taught by Navy Seals... FOCUS ON SIGHT ONLY !... DRYFIRE... DONT ANTICIPATE THE SHOT
Which type ammo is best for G3c Tarus….I have no issue with pistol & it shoot perfect…
You may have to try several types of ammy to find what yours likes best. They can be somewhat ammo sensitive.
@@RidersRange I had a handful of Winchester 115 grain fail on me multiple times at the range today. Had a clip that was loaded with Federal 124 gain Personal defense w/ Hydra-shok that shot without any issues. That being said I'm leaning more towards bad primers or lack of quality control with Winchester because I had 3 bullets I loaded back into a clip MULTIPLE TIMES to try and fire again and they just would not shoot.
I use hydra-shok 135 grain
@@livefreeprintgunsWinchester has been terrible every box there’s 3-5 rounds that don’t fire I’ve even had some boxes with the lead was out the casing
@@stevenromero5065 I've since switched to Remington range ammo and haven't had any issues, even when using the parts in a frame I 3D printed.
i got 1 chambered in a New g2c, slide wont release, live round stuck??? any suggestions appreciated , cant pull trigger where i am ... slide wont release?
By "slide won't release, live round stuck", I presume it is loaded and you can't extract the live round from the chamber. I know what I'd try if I had the gun in my hands, but I can't give that kind of advice in a comment. Otherwise, I would suggest take it to where you could safely fire it to clear it.
@@RidersRange ty !
I SMACK HELL ON THE BARREL END AGAINST HARDWOOD
Get a small knife(or some small steel object) and insert it at the end of the ejector port and the frame. If you pull the slide just enough You'll see a little space that you can wedge the knife into and push the slide fully back. And out comes the stuck round.
I had problems with fiocchi 115g fmj rounds.
Switched to magtech 115g fmj and ZERO problems
What type of ammo were you using? I had a bunch of Winchester 115 grain practice ammo fail on me today. I even ended up with 3 bullets that WOULD NOT FIRE no matter how many times i reloaded the clip up with them, so I'm blaming bad primers or lack of quality control because I dumped an entire clip of Federal 124 grain Personal defense w/ Hydra-shok without any issues.
That being said, I'm keeping my S&W Shield for my EDC because I haven't had one single issue with it until I can run more ammo through my G3c to make sure it's just an ammo issue and not a Taurus issue.
Took mine to read range today with fmj jhp and frangable ammo no issues what so ever bought it new yesterday 291 out the door will be carrying it over my sig p 365 oh and my g3 c came with no safety
Glad it works for you. Thanks for watching.
no safety wow
Thanks. A nice review.😃
Thanks for watching.
The G3c can be sensitive to hollow point profile and OAL if you are a handloader.
Robert, I've found that many guns are sensitive to different types of hollow-point ammo. And OAL can be a problem with certain bullet profiles in guns with a short lead (chamber end to rifling start). Ask me how I know after loading 2,000 Montana Gold hollow-points.
So far, my G3C has been flawless as far as reliability and consistency. Zero issues with firing. My only problem is the cheap sights it came with. I took my Glock 19 and G3C to the range together to make sure the problem with me shooting the G3C low and left wasn't about my technique. The Glock 19 was right on the money every shot. I have been shooting for over 30 years, and when I fired the G3C, it always shoots low and left. It's the only gun in my collection that does. It does it consistently though, which is good. My group was still tight....just 1.5 inches low and left at 20 feet. Still good enough to be my EDC as-is. I cannot complain one bit. Just gotta get those cheap sights replaced. Small price to pay for a reliable gun that cost me less than $300.
Glock sights are the ticket. I change them on every Glock, so changing them on the G3c isn't any different. Thanks for watching.
Good review sir! Matter of fact, my son just purchased one of these, about 325.00, his first handgun. In an overall evaluation, ( in your opinion ), on a scale between 1 and 10, where would you rate the g3c?
Danny, I guess that would depend on what I'm comparing it to. Overall, I'd put it mid-pack, but I'd give it extra points for value. I wouldn't hesitate to carry it, but it falls in line behind my Staccato C, Wilson EDC X9, CZ P01, Sig P365XL, Glock 48 (with Zaffiri upper and optic), Dan Wesson ECO, and several others, but ahead of a Bersa, Springfield Hellcat or XDs, way ahead of a Mossberg MC1Sc and ahead of the Taurus G2c.
@@RidersRange Appreciate the great detailed response sir. Living in an area that would be a modest to lower crime area, I would also carry the gc3! Thank you!!
59000 rounds and still smooth as silk
At today's prices, 59,000 rounds is probably $30,000 worth of ammo.
@@RidersRange lol prob a typo more like 5900
The g3c and the g2c will also take the 15 and 17 round g3 magazines
Todd, thanks for adding that info. And thanks for watching.
I have had no problem with 115 and 124 grain ammo for G2C.
Are you recommending that I use 147 grain now for G2C and GX4???
I like the 147gr for my G3c, but often each individual gun has a preference for a particular type and weight of ammo. And with budget guns that don't have the same level of QC that many higher priced guns have, what works best in one may not work best in another gun of the same model. You need to find what works best for you.