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Taurus G3C in a Ransom Rest, Surprising Results, Various Ammo Tested.
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2020
- This video is of the new Taurus G3C . C stands for Compact.
How will this gun do. What ammo does this gun like.
Is it me the gun or the ammo? Have you ever shot at a soda can at 15 yards and say. I cant believe I missed that. Can your pistol even hold under 1.5" at 15 yards. If it cant, it may increase your chances of missing.
Accuracy matters. Sure many guns can do a occasional 1.5" or sub 1" group but can they do it repeatable. Some guns may have 3 or 4 rounds that group good once in a awhile but not all 8 rounds. And are they Repeatable 8 round? Again and again. What ammo does the gun like. Is it me the gun or the ammo.
We are here to find out. We do not cherry pick the rounds or groups this is real true results in our videos. This is why you may miss that soda can. If you are not testing you are guessing as they say.
First shots and groups shown here. No special formula no tricks out of box stock and stock ammo.
Ransom Rest test for repeatability. Many various types of ammo shown and used to get a average base line of grouping. More tests to come so stay tuned.
We did not have all ammo in stock so subscribe to channel to get notification, will add more tests and video soon. No special formula,, stock ammo stock gun real world test in real world environment.
This test was done at the 15 yard mark. It grouped very well for the distance.
What ammo does your gun like. What ammo do you prefer. Is it me or the gun. Ransom Rest helps you find this out.
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This was SO helpful. I’ve been using 115 grain for training but I had no idea that 147 grain would be the G3C choice of ammo. Great video
When i bought my g3c i had gotten 115 grain jhps but i suppose im switching it up lol.
Federal Syntech 150 grain 9mm is incredibly accurate in my G3C .😁👍
Doesn't like reloads
This represents the finest test on the G3c I've ever seen. Never seen this type setup before and it really shows the pistols capability. I will definitely look for higher grain ammo next time I'm at the range with mine.
I'm considering buying a G3c, so I've been watching a lot of videos; this is very helpful. I've only ever bought 115 grain for the guns I have had, hadnt thought about guns liking different grains and it being that noticeable.
OUTSTANDING Presentation! I've Been Following Ransom Rest since the 1980's. This Is The Space X of Firearms Accuracy Research. Great Job Done By All, Including The CEO of The Target Stapling Department.
This is one of the best videos I've seen for testing a firearm. I just recently bought a Taurus C3C so I've been watching plenty of videos. I think you made one of the most useful videos testing what ammo works best that you could get and how accurate the Taurus G3C can be.
I recently purchased this firearm. I own multiple revolvers that are old but very much serviceable. I wanted to get something less expensive to see if this was for me. Right out of the box it fit my hand and felt great. I put 50 rounds through it not paying attention to the grain which was 115. My groupings were very similar to what this video shows. I really enjoyed shooting this firearm. It will be interesting to see how well heavier grains work next trip. This video is by far the most informative about something I would have never considered had I not stumbled upon this one. I am new to the 9mm world. By my first visit to the range, I may be hooked. Can't wait to get back to the range with the knowledge this video has provided.
Your remarks pretty much sums up my gun collection too: I own some really nice S&W revolvers and a nice Sig W German P series. So carrying any of those was out of the question! Then I stumbled (quite by accident) upon a Taurus G3C and bought it. Couldn’t pass up the price, $300, and it came with 3, 12 round mags.
I’ve run 115 FMJ, 124 JHP, and 124 JHP +P’s through mine without any issues.
Great carry gun so far!
I have the g2c and it's more accurate than I am.. 40-50 feet and it's just one ragged hole..I enjoy shooting it the most of my 9mm pistols.. i have never tried 147 but I might just to see.. hope you are enjoying yours
Excellent demonstration. I'm old school and remember when the Ransom rest was *the* standard for firearms testing in the 1970s-'90s, especially with the NRA/American Rifleman reviews, and reviews by some of the better (and better funded) magazines. I see very few UA-cam gun channel hosts doing credible testing for accuracy and grouping, mostly handholding with only a few using sandbags.
I read some reviewers claiming they got better groups off sandbag rests, but given the human element there's no way of knowing whether they adjusted their holds mid-test to compensate for perceived loosening of groups, or off-center groups. The Ransom rest eliminates that human fudge factor from getting repeatable results.
Back in the 1990s I was a workplace safety consultant and recommended the Ransom rest for safe testing by a small firearms manufacturer after an employee was injured while testing a firearm that blew apart while handholding the gun. I'm not sure whether they followed through, but the Ransom rest should be the industry standard for all firearms manufacturers.
Hi Paralex Thank you so much for the comments and kind words, greatly appreciated. Yes you are correct in most all cases all manufacturers use the Ransom Rest as the standard. As far as reviewers saying they got better group by hand. This is entirely posable if they do not learn and or use the machine right. There are many people who inadvertently over tighten the gun in the grip insert in the Ransom Rest. Then say the gun doesn't group or I got better of hand. This is only because they over clamped the gun.
This is easy to do when you are thinking accuracy you want things snug and rigid issue is the grip inserts are designed to be the durometer of the human hand. Just like if you push on your index trigger finger you will feel flesh and it will give some then muscle and bone. The grips are the same way as your hand it will give, and if you over tighten the gun, you can swell the grip then the gun won't settle and they get frustrated and move on to sandbag instead of reading our instruction manual or calling us up. Machine is easy to use but you do need to know it.
Keep in mind the human hand grip is not that strong, honestly it is not. And keep in mind even girls shoot these guns. So if needed the Mil spec for the Ransom Rest is 19-inch LBs for steel frame and 14-to-15-inch LBS for polymers. when fighting the A,B,C knobs. Honestly extended fingers work very well to clamp. But that is when you learn the machine but if needed a Inch lb wrench can be the way to go if you want or can't figure it out because, as the Military calls it, be a Jar head and over clamp. In case you wanted that info but i can see you are a user and believer in the Rest, and we thank you for that support.
Yes, it is true no firearm model goes into service for DOJ DHS or FBI without ransom Rest test. We are as the Military calls the industry standard, this is only due to Ransom Rest has been tried and true and as the Military say it is the only machine duplicatable to the end user. Thank you for using a Ransom Rest it is the safe way to test you are corect again.
Such a great video and very informative. I actually have this firearm and recently purchased it so this really helped. The set up you have, as well as the camera angles are perfect. Thanks for taking the time to do this I can imagine getting everything set up took a couple of hours
Ransom Rest: On the Fiocchi group that flyer was me.
Excellent video thank you very much for all the information. Update. Now that I have my gun and have been training with it it is a tack driver with gold dot + P ammo 124 grain. Just what you want with a carry gun. And also shoot to point of aim. With factory sites. The 17 round factory magazines are beautiful. Great ergonomics. Can’t say enough fantastic little carry gun. And the best thing is you don’t mind caring it because it’s not your most expensive gun.
The most underrated video on UA-cam. Excellent vid man
Just bought a G3C. This is a very good test and a very informative video. Great job on the video!
Great video and very helpful. I also own a G3C and love it!
THANK YOU !! I just purchased my 1st hand gun. And decided upon this Taurus G3C. And was very curious which Ammo I should go with. YOU have saved me a ton of $ and Time. Much Appreciated..
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to do this. Appreciate it very much...!
Excellent test video 👍👍👍
Thanks
Matt
This is a great video. What would be even more interesting is to do the same type of tests with handguns in a similar category like 9mm compact, etc.
For ammo, major mfg. JHP, FMJ, grain category.
👍Thks for that ammo test. Your vid solved my accuracy prob i have with that G3. Was using 115gn Rem at 4yds and getting embarrassing results. Now i feel better about that gun. Thks again.✌🇺🇸🇺🇸
Could still be you though.
First time I’ve seen your test. I liked it! Subscribed
very impressed with your presentation, Sir.
Well Done !! Very informative. My Buddy Tj also impressed. Thanks
Very well done. Thank you.
Please test more models! Awesome results
Great demo review.
Great informative video!
I have been using CCI Blazer 115 gran for target practice. I do pretty good with it but not that good. Great video very educational thank y’all.
I'd like to see this on the G3 at 25 yards... but honestly, this was a pretty awesome test. Thank you.
@Paul Clarke I actually wasn't thinking about the aspects of it in the Self Defense Role, but in the range/fun time poking holes in targets aspect. One needs good range time to keep their SHTF time in good order. Besides, few people do as well in live action as they do on the range.
Very helpful. Thanks so much
Thanks for the information
That was interesting. never seen a video like this to demonstrate such information. Just recently got the G3c, thanks for sharing !
Really great informative and no BS!
Great test!
Great vid. Very great info
Thank you for your information
Great video. Been carrying a p95 for 16 years as my duty gun and had to sell it when I retired due to the Times. Looking for an inexpensive gun for my RV.
Very helpful video!
All my G series pistols and even my TH9c shoot very well with 135-147 grain ammo. I plink with 115 but fyi all Taurus g pistols love the heavy stuff
Every pistol is different. I have one that shoots aluminum-cased Blazer ammo into a ragged hole at 15 yards while another produces 7-inch groups at the same distance with the same ammunition.
Just found this. Great video!!!
Man it sounds like someome needs a neti pot. Thanks for the video. Heard some pretty excellent things coming from Taurus.
"If you're not testing you're guessing.". Thanks for that test. I'll be checking your channel now to see what else you've tested. P.S. I made the same "20 lb trigger pull" about the staple gun a second before I heard your colleague make the joke. Thanks for the empirical data.
I would be interested in seeing accuracy of defensive loads for this firearm. I own one and I prefer heavier loads for defense but would be interested in seeing what performs well in this. I have been looking at the Fort Scott TUI 9mm which is a solid spun copper projectile that has been claimed to have pinpoint accuracy. However, I have never seen anyone else do the battery of testing that you did in this video.
Fort Scott TUI rounds are rather light, though, with some being only 80gr and nearly 1400 fps. In a defensive situation a person would not likely be 15 yards away engaging a target at that distance they would fire a shot and look for cover. Most defensive engagements would be under 10 yards and more than likely be under or at 5 to 7 yards which will significantly shrink the group size. Thanks for the video. I will seek out all 147 grain for training from now on to see if that increases my accuracy with this little critter. I thought it was me because my groups with 115gr and 124gr is garbage.
Owned my g3c toro for a few months now... Mine has been flawless after 600 or so FMJ and jhp of various kinds, and surprisingly accurate... I can easily hit beer cans at 15-20 yards. Maybe I got lucky?
Thanks bro. Just picked up a G3c and this helps a lot.
Also anyone else thinking Stegal? 😂
One of the reviews that I've ever seen, great job.
Great review, one of the best!
I really appreciate this video now really let my Forest G3 watch
Love my G3
He sounds like a bingo announcer awesome testing man
Good job!
Geat video! I need to get some 147 gram for my G3C!
I like so much your highly technical assessment! Now i will use 147-150Gr amunition. In my first day shooting with my G3C mi shots landed mostly low left. Thanks!!!
Shots- landed....
Same here man
Me too...on several guns including G26 and G19, and a S&W SDEv9. So yeah, operator error on my part. Love the G3c w/factory 15 rd mag. Perfect EDC for me. I sold the G26 and put the profit on an AR build! :)
@@michaelhenderson5098 G3c come with 3, 12 round factory mags , the G3x comes with both the 15-17 round standard mags.
Great info. Not sure how well 147 would expand out of this short barrel however.
Hope to see this with the GX4.
Awesome
Dang that explains a lot about my G3C for sure. No doubt the experts at the range are correct that it's my grip (new-ish to handguns) but I can see where shooting 115 grain isn't helping. Also see where a little windage adjustment wouldn't hurt my cause either.
I had similar grouping. Glad to know it's not me and I'll be getting 147 grain from now on
Picking my fde up tomorrow 🥲
this is very useful, can you try other guns like Canik TP9 ELITE SC?
When I take my G3 to the range I hope my sights are as legit as his GEESH !!!
Oh man…. Dress this guy up like Steven Segal & make a comedy/parody video…. It would definitely go viral ….
Whacha think ???
Heavier ammo is the best.. I'll try it.
Really should have done more of the 115.. from a science perspective, that would have had value rather than just assume it hates all lighter rounds. But in your video, you can do what ya want.
Exelente
Based on this video i tried some Fiocchi 147 FMJ and JHP in my G3c and my pistol also likes the 147 Fiocchi ammo.
After these tests ..which ammo would you prefer for the g3c?
Excelente teste. Parabéns. Mereceu a inscrição no canal. Obrigado.
I'm glad I bought some 124 federal punch then. Wish I'd of gotten some heavier before seeing this. But I don't thing you can return ammo haha.
I noticed on the second group of the remington 124 the sight picture shifted left. The aim was slightly left at first but the first shot made it more left. I own one of these and have put them through the same hole at 15yrds
I noticed too, don’t like the fact that he is only using one beast clamp in the front, beast clamps are not ment to hold in place while you are hammering. Maybe anchor bolt down the ransom at four points would be more accurate results.
great video,thanks
Man this would be my dream job.
You aim it all the way to the left from the cam
Suggestion. A S.A. XD45 4" service pistol?
I'm gonna tell my kids this is Steven Seagal!
This is my carry gun. I feel like I get better groups at 15 yards.
Thanks. You educated me on your rest. Now I know I would get no benefit from one.
I think maybe a a quick first lube would have been a good idea. the storage lube is barely existent on a lot of new guns. (if he lubed it, and I missed it, I apologize, I am not a pro...and he looks like he knows what's up, so I'll assume he did, and stfu lol).
I have the G2C and found its not bullet weight but bullet right away I got the gun and the shop only had aguila 115 grain FMJ ammo got 200 rounds was not impressed with the 3 to 4 inch groups off hand then I got some federal and Winchester 115 grain FMJ ammo and the groups cut in half to under 2 inch off hand at 10 yards I did notice the bullet length of the aguila was a little shorter the the other bullets
So... perhaps the ammo brand may be a major consideration for accuracy?
Who knew that even fatter Steven seagal knew a lot about firearms.
Now test Sig 365 and Hellcat with the same ammo - 1 mil views guaranteed:), subscribed!
REAL GOOD gun. Why buy Glock?
In the event I have to use my gun for self defense I would say I have very good shot at defeating my attacker !
Bought one of these a month ago. Ran everything but 147. Fail to feed heavy hollow points. Not really failed tp feed but failed to ho completely into battery
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Do a plunk test and make sure the bullet isn't hitting the rifling when chambering.
Hi Guys. Great video, thank you now I know what ammo to buy for my G3c. I also purchased a Canik TP9SF Elite and I was wondering if you guys can also make a video with the Canik. Thank you.
Great video. What American Eagle tested so well at the end? 147? 124? I couldn’t tell from that video. Thanks!
147...box looked like 147gr FMJ FP Federal American Eagle (AE9FP)
Anyone know what twist the barrel is?
You I believe meant to say planned before that demic part of your opening right, most everyone understands that by now I hope. Great video I much appreciate the detailed testing and results.
No lack of chemsky trails over that way either, wow just getting everyone left, right and from above. I smh
I have it and I like it a lot
Site moving on gun!?
Waiting for M9 test
Thanks... At 30:42 all I see are the skies painted with chemtrails. ;)
Late to comment, but can you do the P365 (standard size) at some point?
Absolutely we have one here we will try to make time and squeeze it in for you .
@@Ransomrest Awesome!
My G2C liked 147gr best.
Only a few minutes in but you said it comes with 2 mags but it does come with 3 magazines
Sorry about that, we added a caption at the bottom, but it does pan and get hid by the video. Thank you for mentioning it, I realize I made that mistake. Good watching out my friend.
Lol faaacts . I got mine like damn they think imma be in a shootout with this thing 😂😂😂
I got the G3 so should I upgrade to the 147 grain myself then?
I would give it a try. No barrel is the same. No gun is the same. But given this test and the machining standards of today. It is a good place to start for your G3. Thanks for your interest in our video, and the comment. Hope this info helps.
@@Ransomrest Yeah it does, and thanks for taking the time to answer too.
ALOT OF JET TRAFFIC
Do you mean 🤔 it? has three magazines instead of two
Yep, sorry about that, recording live videos of pour test all the bumps and hiccups get on camera to, As we like to say real world data real world test. Real world mistakes haha
remingtons last owners let quality control lapse for profit.
Surely you see your not exactly on target, right?? Lol You've got the front sight to left more than it's centered haha Interesting video tho!! You need to cut it WAY down but great content.
Try red army ammo
Also why skip out on the ammo? You had it, may as well test it. One company's beans are never the same as another's, you of all people should know that.