Miscellaneous Myths: Hippolytus
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2019
- It's a tale as old as time… one man, torn between two rival women… his good heart brought to ruin in their endless games of love and war… at least, that's what Aphrodite clearly thought was going on. Artemis is probably sick of telling her that not everything is an invitation to a romantic subplot.
You'd think a goddess of love would understand the importance of consent.
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I love the idea that his wife is another of the Virgin hunters and that they only got married to stop this happening again.
And they didn't do the frick frack
Netflix and chill was just Netflix
@@meandmybobbygee1812 Netflix inside a freezer
@@jesuschrist9513 Alternatively, it was netflixing horror movies. chill...like...get it?....ah
@@meandmybobbygee1812 Netflix and hunting wild animals.
Aphrodite: "And then they kissed!"
Artemis: "That's not how this works...that's not how any of this works!"
Aphrodite: *"AND THEN THEY KISSED!"*
AND THEN I GET CALLED TO CLEAN UP THE MESS!! SERIOUSLY THEESE GUYS NEED SOME SERIOUS ANGERMANAGEMENT LESSONS!! IT WOULD MAKE MY JOB MUCH EASIER!!
@@thanatos5729 Hades:Tries to comfort Thanatos. “You’re not alone in this mess…”
@@firemarioproductions2003
Lmao, oof
@@firemarioproductions2003 Charon: *whistles row row row your boat*
Quetzalcoatl: *facepalm*
See? I knew Artemis didn't just favor virgin women. She favored virgin hunters in general.
Fucken Rick Riordin
Larpy Apollo LMFAO FORRREAAAAL
He did a generally good job on his books but some people dont do reaserch and just think hes right soooo yeah dont blame him to much
@@RavensCake I only said that as joke. For the most part I enjoy his works
yeah rick got a few this wrong. like Artemis, Apollo, Hephaistos, Hera, Hades, and Hestia having cabins. let alone [successful ones, in Apollos case] mortal affairs.
Aro/Ace Person: Exists
Aphrodite: Wait, that's illegal
Aro/Ace Person: Exists
Artemis, Athena, and Hestia: YOU ARE VALID!
No one:
Not a soul:
Aphrodite: stop you've violated the law!
COME AT ME, SIS!
What the hell is aro/ace?
Another "i wanna invent my own characteristic because I'm special in nothing and i reaaaaaally wanna be!" thing?
Roshi
Actually no, and saying that is very offensive. Ace is short for asexual, or not experiencing sexual attraction, and aro is for aromantic, or not experiencing romantic attraction. It is possible to be one and not the other, and some people, such as myself, are both, or aro/ace.
"Oh crap that's a crime now?"
...Who wants to tell Zeus?
Zeus is also god of law and justice so he knows; he's just, quite literally, above it all.
Besides, Ancient Greek's didn't *really* have a concept of "rape", as we do. Greek men were entitled to do what they wanted to their women, that was just a fact of life.
Hippolytus is murdered by-proxy not because he "raped" Phaedra but mostly because Theseus saw it as a slight on his honour that his son had sex with his wife and that Phaedra committed suicide because of it.
@@TheThegoldenspatula ...I'm well aware. Do you happen to know what a joke is?
@@TheThegoldenspatula Wait, then how could the hunters of artemis even be a thing? If no means no meant yes........will how could you choose not to have relationships? Or was it just no relationships but you could have sex for fun?
Samuel Joseph Azzaro
Neither. The Hunters of Artemis were directly under the protection of Artemis and everyone knew it.
Unless you had a death wish (or you were Zeus), you didn’t touch the Hunters.
@@TheThegoldenspatula No I mean in real life, or was this a purely mythic group? Cause in real life.....I mean really, people have done worse with greater chance of it coming to bite them.
Aphrodite is a middle-aged woman who was popular in high school and can't get over the fact that not everyone holds the same opinions as her and tries to control everyone and everything.
Only difference is that middle aged women just tries to fuck people over, well Aphrodite actually just has control over mortals.
I think I've seen that movie.
Not only that but her "plan" was so moronic that a five year old raised on the Grimm tales could have come up with a better plan. And people wanted to worship this...Ugh...
I have a manager where I work who is exactly that. She is not a nice person, and especially hates women who are in any way smarter or better than her. Ironically, even though she brings younger girls under her wing as her little minions to do her bidding in exchange for getting away with literally anything they want while at work, these girls all actually hate her, but pretend they like her to get away with being paid to goof off when shes there, essentially taking advantage of this managers stupidity and tricking her at her own game.
Never work in retail kids, it will slowly kill you inside of you arent a manipulative little shit who loves to brown-nose harder than a Disney Villian toady.
@@Mellion555 yeah, Aphrodite reminds me of a teacher I had once. She got mad when someone (esp. the girls in our class) either did something better than she did or called her out. She played clear favorites with this one girl and the girl hated her guts, at least people like that give me hope about human empathy, nothing brings people together like not liking something, whether good or bad.
I love that every time Artemis talks about relationships we get a single-sentence insight into Red's asexuality.
Red is asexual?
I guessed she was a lesbian
@@yerdasellsavon9232 IIRC she's asexual and pan/biromantic, the topic came up in a Q&A they did quite a while ago
Devilbat can you link the specific Q and A and if possible about how far into the Q and A it is?
@@acebalistic1358 Don't know about the Q and A but in the intro of the Romantic Sub Plot she goes into quite a bit of detail about her asexuality. I also remember her bringing it up in the Robot episode.
"Because *EWWWW* and also *HUUUEEEGHH* "
I was dying😄😄😄😄😄😄😄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aphrodite.
Total bitch.
Somebody bring in the THOT SLAYER!!! 😬🔪
@@adrianjamesdelfin7414 I'm sorry she's beyond our jurisdiction, she'd kill us all
@@FireboltPrime and given how much Zeus is spoiling her i really dont think there is ANYTHING even the other gods can do
@@darkwhispersstories47 she's so the "but daddyyyyuh! I want it! Now!"
Oh Christ it's like pink diamond all over again
@@prizmarvalschi1319 But since she was formed from Uranus testicles, doesn't that make her Zeus father?
This once again proves that Theseus is the worst person ever.
"Lets kidnap a child so she'll grow up to be my wife. Oh, my best friend wants to kidnap the queen of the underworld and do the same? ROAD TRIP!"
Don't forget how he dumped his girlfriend by *leaving her on an island* while she was asleep!
Pretty sure Sisyphus still has him beat there.
@@h0m3st4r Sisyphus is bad ass.
Theseus is pretty much a blackhole of doom incarnated
So Aphrodite shows off her weird shipping fanfics
"and then hippolitus and his step mom kissed soooo passionately (A/N: COME ON JUST KISS IRL ALREADY)"
Wouldn't be the first time.
@@defunctaccount9803 Except she literally wrote that fic out of spite. Which isn't too far from mortal fanfic writers some times.
@@dungeonmaster3464 Ahahaha
@@dungeonmaster3464 which is terrifying.
I like to imagine that Hippolytus and his wife are both Aro/Ace and they get married to escape actual marriage. They are just really good platonic friends
I like this one, they just get "married" so Aphrodite could leave them alone to be the Ace/Aro ladies and lads they are
I headcanon them as heteroromantic asexuals. Their idea of private time is going off together and killing something.
I agree with this headcanon
"Asclepius, my favorite nephew, can you please heal this hunter?"
"Sure, auntie Artemis, what did he catch?"
"Uhm... death."
"Death, huh? That's quite a serious one. I'll see what I can do"
*proceeds to resurrect Hippolytus*
*meanwhile in the underworld*
"What the- where's the new guy gone? Oh, back to life. WHY IS HE BACK TO LIFE!? ZEEUUUS, TELL YOUR GRANDSON TO STOP REVIVING DEAD PEOPLE! NOT COOL!"
"(from above) TELL HIM YOURSELF!"
*proceeds to strike Asclepius with a lightning bolt, killing him instantly*
*meanwhile wherever cyclopes like to hang out*
"L-lord Apollo? Why are you-"
"You made the bolt that my dad used to kill my son! I'll kill you!"
*proceeds to kill them*
*meanwhile on Olympus*
"Where are the cyclopes that make my weapons? Oh, they're dead. WHY ARE THEY DEAD!? APOLLOOOOOO!"
...
the story goes on.
I bet that they ended up pinning it on Hades.
@@tinchosabala That would be typical, but Zeus actually punished Apollo for shooting the cyclopes that made the weapons that Zeus himself used to kill Asclepius who revived Hippolytus for Artemis - pissing off Hades in the process - after he had been killed by Poseidon for Theseus who was being manipulated by Phaedra who was being manipulated by Aphrodite. So the old lightningbolt actually managed to catch someone who was somewhat resposible for what happened. Not a feat considering the ridiculous amount of people involved, though.
Also, Asclepius was brought back to life, for eternity. Deification ex machina.
Thundergozon
my poor brain! Maths Is way simpler than this!
@@cristaldark4228 Yes. Yes, it is.
This deserves more likes.
That dude who resurrected Hippolytus is actually Artemis' nephew since he's Apollo's kid.
'Nephew! I need your help!'
'Sure auntie, what's wrong with him?'
'He's dead,'
'Okay! Ill cure him of his death sickness!'
And that guy got killed by Zeus because his curing people of death annoyed Thanatos, who complained to Hades, who complained to Zeus.
It's always good to have a least one doctor in the family.
He died a little. He got better
@@malcomalexander9437 Technically Thanatos was Hades (it makes sense in context and there's plenty of ancient sources to back this up.), and Hades complained because while it was okay to heal someone who was on the verge of death, actually bringing someone back from the dead was totally not okay. Especially considering the fact that the dead were apart of Hades' many power domains, and resurrection was something that could only happen with his approval.
Basically, Asclepius was in the wrong because he'd stepped into the power domain of another god, but Zeus overreacted and killed him for it; though Zeus later turned him into a god to ease tensions with Apollo, and he did tell Asclepius to only resurrect the dead once he'd received permission.
Like Red stated in an earlier video, it's not Hades' fault that Zeus interpreted "Hey, this guy is bringing people back from the dead, can you tell him to stop it" as "set the guy on fire".
@@cthonisprincess4011 Thanatos was the one who killed people and brought their souls to the Underworld, where they had to cross the river. Hades just ruled the underworld. Thanathos is basically the Greek angel of death, their psychopomp. I could be wrong though.
_"Ohh crap, that's a crime now?"_
I don't want to be the guy who has to tell Zeus...
Theseus: father kill my son for the crime of rape!
Poseidon: oh crap that's a crime now? I mean sure
**one murder later**
Poseidon: so brother....rape is....apparently a crime now....
Zeus: .......bitch I'm ZEUS MOTHER FUCKER!! I WILL DO WHOEVER AND WHATEVER WHENEVER I FUCKING FEEL LIKE IT!!
Hera: WHAT?!?!
Zeus: Nothing dear, I love you~
Outlaw7263 😂😂😂 you're fucking killing me, man!
Poseidon: *Haha effers I A M T H E L A W*
Outlaw7263 "I AM ZEUS MOTHER FUCKER!!!" insert "the" in there before mother and it would STILL be accurate!
I like the idea that the girl he married was a hunter of Artemis who had Aphrodite bothering her as well so they married to stop her from bugging them. Then one day they find a kid with no parents and they adopt it. So they’re just to best friends raising a child they found. (No one steal this idea I’m writing a fanfic on it later)
Where's the fanfic 🤨
Give us a link-
gib link
The ace version of a lavendar marriage lol
Link?
"I've just seen that fun Oedipus play!"
Worst opening line *ever.*
I think that's what's called going straight for the hard sell. >.>
@@JoshSweetvale i call that a hard nope
Is that line better or worse than "You must be 5 ccs of potassuim chloride, because you just made my heart stop?"
@@superevilscientistgamer5939 It's worse. The one you quote is cringey but funny. That Oedipus one is just gross.
What people won't think to use as pickup lines these days...
Poseidon's reaction... It summarizes Greek mythology so well.
Aaron Jafri Yep
Hades is the only one of the big three who isn't rapey.
Contrary to popular belief, "The Rape of Persephone" doesn't refer to Persephone getting raped. It's a mistranslation of _rapere,_ meaning to abduct.
@@Silverwind87 I mean kidnapping is still a serious crime though...
@@The_Evening_Sun Yeah, but the abduction part of the myth doesn't really have any consequences.
@@Silverwind87 Correct. Rape means to take by force, which can also mean kidnapping without the sex part. Basically Hades was just really lonely.
Aphrodite is a popular teen girl who can't stand people calling someone else pretty. Jesus its just like highschool.
...except without the principal. Or the teachers.
Eyyyyy I caught that reference
Really more like a particularly unruly college from an 80's movie.
Can’t wait to need to deal with that hell hole
And Artemis is that cool athletic girl in school who doesn't really care about looks but still all the boys love her lol
I would love for a daughter of Aphrodite to have turned into a hunter of Artemis.
Piper almost did
Artemis did get the daughter of Zeus. Had the daughter of Hades but she died.
don’t give rick riordion ideas
@@mariagueta8477 give him all the ideas though
@@lahlybird895 he means like an actual one from the mythologies, not a character from an offbrand teenage book series
This entire thing summerized:
*APHRODITE PUT DOWN THE KNIFE!*
YEAH SERIOUSLY!! NEXT TIME YOU CAN BRING THE SOULS TO CHARION YOURSELF!!
Aphrodite: *sharpening her axe with her husband's tools* But they would look so cute together!!
Hephaestus, in the corner: I did not make that for her
What do you have?
A 'Ship!
NO!
That cult for Hipolytus literally wrote in their head cannons that their hero gets brought back from the dead, becomes a god AND gets the girl despite virginity pledge.
WHY ARE SO MANY MYTHS AND LEGENDS FULL OF FANFICTION!!!
IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND
EDIT: Sweet baby Hercules
Thx for all the likes :)
EDIT 2: I have no problem with this or fanfiction I just think it's funny how many modern day classics were thought up/re invented by people that didnt come up with the stories.
it got out of hand 5000 years ago buddy
Because mythology is fanfiction.
@@lohfert86 I never realized until I started watching Red lol
@@Bizarrejoe good point
Nothing to do now but read and laugh about how silly it is.
Are you kidding? You just passed the word around that you were having a "secret" Bacchanal, and next thing you knew, you were surrounded by drunk naked chicks. Now that's my kinda magic!!!
"...and I think one line in the Illiad makes it seem like he actually marries someone, which...kinda feels like it subverts the whole premise of the story, really..."
Wouldn't be the last time that a sequel to a beloved story would completely miss the point of the original, destroying the protagonist in the process.
RIAN~!
May Salt be with you!
VIII
I'm continually amused by how much of mythology can only end with 'so, yeah' and a shrug.
Check out the sequel to Dracula. Yeah, stoker's grandson made it with some Hollywood writer I believe.
Me: Visits Cyprus, the birthplace of Aphrodite
Also me: Buys an ornament of Artemis
Aphrodite: *_That's very illegal!_*
Power move of the millenium.
Aphrodite: LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SH*T!
I’d watch out for your parents of siblings
keep an eye out for anyone who is in the same room as you, or looks at you, or mentions you, greek gods use almost anyone
That sounds like a very good way to get very, very cursed.
Okay but can we just appreciate that Red made Hippolyta more muscular than Theseus?
Yes we can.
*Venus:* "Hiiiiiiii! Welcome to the pantheon! Here's your gift basket and a complimentary-"
*Hippolytus (as Virbius):* " _glares_ I don't like you."
*Venus:* "...O-oh."
Gods USUALLY put aside their differences when a mortal ascends to godhood. The classic example is Hera towards Heracles, who, after doing everything she possibly could to make his mortal life a living hell, chilled out completely when he became the gatekeeper of Olympus and even let him marry her daughter, Hebe. After that we don't hear about any problems between the two. Or in the versions where Iphigenia ascends to deity, she doesn't bear any grudge against Artemis, who, to remind everyone, ordered her to be SACRIFICED.
*Hera* : _hi_ Sonny.....
*Vulcan* : may you enter this volcano for a second
Vulcan did not show mercy to Hera
_and that kids is why you should never throw your child of a cliff_
*Exept if you are Spartan, then survival of the fittest*
@@creditsunknown7974 *Hephaestus, you're crossing your Roman with your Greek mythology.
Mirjan Bouma yeah I forgot there names
@@creditsunknown7974 no sweat
Theseus : Dad my son raped my wife do something
Poseidon : will he takes after his old man
Theseus: What
With how rapey Poseidon is, it’s starting to make sense why he’s the god of water. I’m also desperately trying not to ruin Percy Jackson for myself though SO DONT THINK ABOUT IT
“Listen I raped Demeter as a horse while she was also disguised s a horse.”
“WhAt?!?”
“Son this is Greece”
@@alysondavy2485 And Medusa's human version in one of Athena's temples
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait *THAT HAPPENED?!* (I mean not that I'm that surprised but still WTF)
Maybe his relationship was lowkey platonic and they married out of raw love and no lust
We love ace rep
Maybe she was a huntress too? And it was more like marrying for tax benefits
Tina #_# Or in this case, marrying for not dying benefits
Like a convenience marriage - no sex, just appear in public and go through the official ceremony to stop people from talking. No need for intimacy, doesn't mean you don't get on. They do that all the time in TV show Inspector Montalbano.
@@martynap2930 and double the hunting! And sharing hunting gear! And someone helping you to carry and skin the elk! I'd say they were hunterbuddies.
agenttheater5 And at most they just became good friends who have a certificate merging their names now. YAHOO!
what if he married somebody just so he doesn't get killed indirectly again by Aphrodite?
I like this headcanon
And they’re just good friends who magiced some kids into existence without having to do the whole physical sex stuff? Or they love each other only romantically so the whole no sex thing still counts?
@@danieldortch8779 that would be cute
Jade Heart YAY!!!!
@@danieldortch8779 hmm?
I wonder if this myth is supposed to symbolize how, in Ancient Greece, it was an acceptable standard for girls to pledge themselves to Virgin Godesses to avoid marriages, but MEN were straight up NOT allowed to remain bachelors?
Wait wait wait... "lost his buttcheeks IN hades"??!?! Theseus wtf?
You clearly haven't see the video about Theseus and Pirithous Excelent Adventures.
theseus you were supposed to be smarter than this
He tried to sneak into the Underworld with his friend, Pirithous, to kidnap Persephone, but Hades saw through it and said, "Hey, welcome, pull up a chair!", chair being the Chair of Forgetfulness, so Theseus was stuck sitting there until he partially petrified. He was saved when Heracles came to visit the Underworld and pulled him out of it, sans buttcheeks and the friend he came with.
Yeah... Never a good idea to kidnap Hades’s wife...
@@samanthual YEAH, that's HIS job!!
I love how Red was like “Even I can’t understand this ending”
"That's a crime, now?"
Greek mythology in a nutshell, folks.
The two best arguments in every discussion:
-eewrrgg
-hhhgggrr
She actually kind of brushed over the part where Hippolytus made a very sensible argument against sleeping with her out respect for his father, her husband. It wasn't JUST that he was disgusted by the prospect, he knew it was morally wrong.
@@stephenskinner7207 And it's morally wrong because 'eewrrg' and 'hhhgggrr.'
@@brigidtheirish I've never seen eye to eye with the people who say Hippolytus is an unlikable protagonist. Yes, he has his fatal flaw like every Greek hero, and yeah, he really doesn't like women any more than Artemis likes men. But he has a solid moral code that he sticks to, and one that doesn't involve throwing children off walls or gouging somebody's eyeballs out...honestly, how often do you see that in Greek mythology? It makes sense that Red would be more appreciative of a character who consciously averse to human sexuality than the majority of literary critics are, and this is one of the few cases where I find myself agreeing with her in that field.
@@stephenskinner7207 There are people who think he's unlikable?
This is like the plot to every romance anime ever
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I literally see you everywhere on UA-cam now... How?!?
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Not enough little sisters.
My reasoning for not doing things:
Because *"groaning noise"*
And also *"vomiting noise"*
1:18 “oh crap, that’s a crime now?”
Poseidon would absolutely 10000% say that
I'm pretty sure one can count the greek gods that wouldn't say that on one hand.
So you're telling me Artemis accepts everybody not interested in relationships.....
Skooma addict perhaps
Jens Kosch I heard shes one of mount olympus top trackers is that true? With apollon being 2nd
Jens Kosch that was apollon btw who killed evil snake man
Jens Kosch Greek fun fact: from greek hades means unseen and in wizard101 there is hades the unseen which is a part of wizard101 thats based off of that fact
were do sign?
Poseidon like "whu- that's a crime now?" was where i lost it
To Phaedra's credit, a lot of versions I read have her resisting her feelings for Hippolytus as much as possible, but Aphrodite just kept upping them until it became literally impossible. In those versions, she usually kills herself before trying anything with her stepson, but still frames him in her suicide note for whatever reason.
I also like to believe that he and his wife were like-minded individuals who just married to get everyone to leave them alone, and are only husband and wife in name only. They're more roommates.
Moral of the story: Aphrodite has absolutely NO CHILL!
I think we learned that back with Psyche
I am one hundred percent here for asexual Artemis.
You say that as if she kinda isn't. She doesn't care for romantic or sexual relationships in any form or fashion and has only ever had one love, anf even then she's remained a virgin goddess.
She actually did fall for the hunter Orion. Then her brother Apollo had to screw it all up
*cough* Orion *cough* In all honesty, if Apollo hadn't been a selfish asshole, Artemis may have eventually left behind the 'virginity' vow to lay with her beloved. of course, we won't know because he died but she did really love Orion and wanted to be with him like no other man before.
an icon
And her bisexual brother, Apollo
Yay new video! (Also, still waiting on my "I'm magic, Ishtar loves me, and even the Queen of Hell thinks I'm hot." Mug
@@alphaxtitania5597 No. "Did somebody saaaaaaaay, impulsive!"
Fuck they have a mug like that?? I need it!!
AlphaXTitania Oh my GOSH yes
You forgot to close the thing.
Here, this fell from you
)
@@darksev.6468 I'll close my parentheses when I get my mug, tyvm! ;)
When my teacher says that we’re studying greek mythology but I watched every single myth video here:
*I HAVE THE POWER*
you fools I am 6 steps ahead of you !
I am torn between the best animated line being "Oh Crap, that's a crime now?" and "Oh Hades No!"
I like the idea that it's all just divine witness protection. Also, this reminds me of a conclusion I came to yesterday; the planet Venus was very appropriately named, as its namesake and her Greek version were both very pretty, but once you got to know them you realize they will totally Franklin Ulysses Chester Kennedy you up and ruin you.
Venus is like a planet that H.P. Lovecraft got to create.
Wait, he is also named Ulysses? How appropriate....
@@tinchosabala No, I just wanted to get around the censors of a webcomic one day, and realized that typing out the first names of three presidents followed by the last name of another isn't against the rules.
Is it swearing? Or is it patriotism? Nobody knows!
@@loah_1 Exactly!
Welp, I didn't expect Aphrodite and Artemis to get along at some point
The messed up thing is that going back to Anatolia they actually were both splintered off from the same goddess, along with Hera after the religions reformation as things stabilized after the bronze age collapse took out the Minoan Greeks.
When did that happen in the story?
@Pecu Alex You are largely correct.
However, It is worth noting that while Ishtar and the related goddesses of the Asia Minor through to the fertile crescent, like Ashera are goddesses of fertility and magic, but also have aspects of the hunt. At least in the expressions that made it on the way to Greece. Cybele was the protoform of the earth mother/huntress goddess that divided into Artemis, Rhea, Demeter and Kore who exits as a further fracturing from her mother's archetype. The way that Cybele associated with the Ishtar goddess complex is through the association with lions and rulership in both of their iconography, though that may be a case of cross contamination rather than of direct decent. Add in the similarities between the seasonal death of Tammuz with Cybele's relation to the figure of Attis and Artemis' part in both the myths of Actaeon and Adonis.
It's not a direct lineage by any means, but fragments of Ishtar made it into every Greek Goddess, with the primary aspects of Maidenhood going to Artemis, Seductress to Aphrodite, Queen to Hera, and Fertility to Demeter. And while those aspects tend to be common and stick to each other quite often in some combination, the fact that a Huntress Goddess serves as an intermediary upon Asia Minor between those two points geographically, culturally, and historically seems like a good enough indicator for me to support the conclusion of at least some relationship there.
To Phaedra's credit, plenty of myths have her feeling REALLY GUILTY about lusting over her husband's kid, and in most of those she kills herself after reaching the point of being able to stand it anymore but before she actually puts the moves on him. Theseus still somehow ends up with the idea that it was Hippolytus' fault, though.
Hippolytus: I have no time for a boyfriend and girlfriend.
Artemis: I feel that.
Ghost of Orion: *Feels more dead then he already did.*
My personal interpretation of the Artemis and Orion myth is that they were just really good friends and that Artemis killed Orion because he tried to force himself on her.
@@fictional-girl_05 I also believe they were really good friends, but Orion got killed because Apollo was a little jealous that Orion and Artemis were spending to much time together. So Apollo tricked Artemis into killing Orion.
Jeez, it's like every Male Artemis Hunter dies a very horrible death. First Orion and now Hippolytus.
Virtuous male virgins: *exist*
90% of the entire Greek pantheon: "Wait, that's illegal."
@USCAN14 That fact... doesn't contradict my joke. At all. But I'm sure you just wanted to look smart, so whatevs.
@@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong pretty much
@Stats 05
The difference about Artemis is that she swore to stay a virgin. So when Apollo sees her and Orion together, he gets nervous that he's gonna take something that Artemis takes pride in, her virginity.
@@Loopimay In some versions Apollo wasn't even involved on the relationship, and it was that giant scorpion send from Gaia that killed him
wait a historical cult??? i need to get me one of those
I'm down for joining
puddy cat Hard to get these days, though... People are (at least usually) less gullible today...😅
@@MichaelBerthelsen
Are you sure about that? Because if that was the case, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be quite so many Nigerian princes sending emails from prisons.
Hellenistic Greece was lousy with little mystery cults to heroes and minor gods. They were like a cross between Scientologists and the Shriners.
By my understanding, the term 'cult' means something different in reference to ancient polytheistic societies (and I think still Hinduism?) than it does in most modern societies. 'Cults' were just groups who venerated one of the gods in particular, whilst not necessarily denying the existence of the others (although I think you got groups who were more or less deviant from mainstream religious practice). Maybe more similar to being a super-fan of a book series or musician.
1:03 “Because eeeeugg and hueggghhh”
As an aro/ace guy, I appreciated that we're allowed to go on archery based adventures with Artemis, too. Occasionally.
I really shouldn’t have laughed at Poseidon’s line, but I did.
Who wants to tell Zeus?
@@f.i.r.e.5119 don't worry guys, i got it.
I just noticed this and it’s very funny
I knew something like this was hiding in Greece. I never liked how Aphrodite seemingly never cared for the “no relationship” rule yet literally started a war with her Helen x Paris OTP. Thank you for revealing this very very interesting tale to us all.
The first shipping war
0:38 _"Banged Heracles and died"_
Nearly died laughing at that. I don't even care if that's true or not :D
"Ah thats a crime now- i mean uh sure!"
God damn it posiden
Tbh love everything about this and Hippolytus is now my favorite greek. I love the Greek Aces. I love all the Aces. Also, thanks for making media with Aces it's not a popular theme.
Red saw there was no ace rep and quite literally went "be the change you want to see in the world" route
I'm ace but I kind of hate Hippolytus mostly because he brought it onto himself by insulting Aphrodite frist while before one of her temples this is what actually pissed her off.
The step mother actually tried to resist the lust to such a level it was killing her it was her nurse who told Hippolytus in hopes he would help her.
He then went into a massive sexist rant about how woman are lesser and how clever woman are the wrost thing ever.
@@4whealFirst every sigma
Aphrodite: Bane of asexuals everywhere
Oh this is only the beginning, she made one Hunter fuck a BEAR.
@@FellsApprentice Was the Bear Good Looking at least? And was the Hunter named Tormund Giantsbane?
@@yochaiwyss3843 .........
Fuckin Aphrodite-followers
@@FellsApprentice more like Athena in trying to get the best out of a bad situation using logic
@Echomist13 what the hell is a aromantic??
@1:48 that was probably some found fanfiction from ancient Rome.
Oh Gods, I just realized Rome is basically the Deviantart of ancient history. They just steal from source material or make fanfiction.
This comment just made me realize. Roman Mythology is basically ancient 50 Shades of Gray. Fanfiction that changed the named and then slapped "Original Work Do Not Streal" on it.
@@leothebackgroundsheep3010 if the reference suits you better, most of Sherlock Holmes is fanfiction lol
"Video's kinda....short today."
"OK, BUT GUYS, I HAD IT DONE IN ONE DAY. WITH *EXTRA TIME* ."
This story is all over the place. It's like my college love life except nothing in this Greek story happened in it other than me not dating anyone.
Isn't that the way to go tho? Relationships are hard and demanding, and you have to be fully developed mentally to really pull off a healthy one. Managing that in high school sounds like a ridiculous hassle for little to no payoff. Especially with all those angsty teens and running hormones.
Yikes. The sheer willingness to remove a mortal's free will, from Heracles' Hera-induced rage to what happened in this story, is probably the scariest thing in Greek Mythology, and just think about what a high bar that is!
Learning about a dude follower of Artemis is very gratifying as someone who, as a former teenage boy who was obsessed with Percy Jackson, had to pretend to be really into Apollo as a consolation prize.
I think it's kind of funny that Hippolytus not only got his own devoted fandom, but they also wrote fanfiction where he is revived _and_ becomes a god.
This telling of Aphrodite and Artemis is like my entire experience of straight girls once they find out your asexual.
Save me asexual archer goddess!
That Poseidon panel, ouch #JusticeForMedusa
Agreed, she was the victim in all that.......also why would any GOD bang someone without their consent (unless weird fetish)? You people have cults of loyal followers who would definitely be DTF.......or you just hit up dionysus' cult........
This isn't the original myth! Originally she was a monster from birth to death!
@@Sam-bm6yf Yep! Check out the OSP video for Io and it explains everything. :)
It’s still a fun interpretation no need to get all uppity about it.
in one version, Athena curses Medusa because she decided to bang someone in one of Athena’s temples.
Greek mythology gave us so much more asexual representation than modern media ever did and ever will
I like to think that he married a fellow huntress that was equally devoted to Artemis, so really, they were a doubly efficient power couple with a sprinkle of bonus love and family life.
No wonder people call Aphrodite the “Female Zeus”.
She is to Zues as Cersei Lannister is to Tywin Lannister.
The irony of that is that Aphrodite only has about a dozen recorded lovers, total. Zeus, Poseidon, and Apollo each had three times that many, and Zeus personally had hundreds.
Zeusette? SUPER CROWN ZEUS!
Stephen Skinner dumb thought- it’s kinda weird, I can’t think of many examples of Zeus loving the other gods much beyond Hera on paper.
I kinda wonder now if that’s a mythological way of explaining lightning being attracted to the earth and somebody in ancient times had super figured out this electricity business from watching lightning strike something.
Only in ancient times was a cult a positive thing.
Cult didn't mean the same thing back then.
Technically every religion is a cult......we just stopped using the name because the I Heart Jesus lads didn't like anything connected to the polytheistics being associated with them. Its like how they europe called the eastern romans byzantines.
We just call them fanbases now.
Cult in that age meant what church means now, an organisation dedicated to serve and love a divine entity
@@francabanillas813 Actually the meaning is still true today, and given that cult is an english term, I'd actually wonder if it's a translated term or just one of those divider terms used by the early roman catholic church to distinguish christian and polytheist culture. Also love may be a strong word, more "we need to make this guy/girl happy or we may literally all die"......no really, a good rule of thumb is that the less a society understands about the natural world, the more people will believe in faith based explanations of natural phenomenon (and sometimes cultures are just weird or unable to be known well enough to reach conclusions about).
"Father! I need you to kill my son for the crime of rape!"
*"Oh crap, that's a crime now?"*
1:47 Well duh, he was obviously terrified of Aphrodite coming after him again so he made a cover for himself.
I knew about this myth. It actually inspired a tale for the world of my own novel. So bottom line, the goddess of love and sexuality (think Aphrodite but WAY more selfish) looked over her domain (she rules over the lions and the savannah) and saw a hunter nearby. She doesn’t like mortals hunting in her domain, so she spooked his prey away. This incurred the wrath of her nephew, the god of sports and the hunt (think Artemis and Apollo) because said hunter was his champion and he had promised a reward to the mortal in exchange for a pledge of fealty. He told his aunt that if she interfered with this promise again, there would be consequences as he would take the case up to his father, the god of storms and the King in the Clouds (think Zeus but with better morals).
So super bummed out that she couldn’t have fun tormenting a mortal, the goddess of love and sexuality decided instead to just observe him. Eventually, after a short while, she noticed that she “had fuller under her own spell”. This didn’t exactly go well with her as she would unfortunately think about the mortal forever until he came under her “possession”. But the mortal was a champion and champions belonged to the gods that favored them. So when she was told by her brother the king that she couldn’t have her love, she left in a fit and effectively had the equivalent of a tantrum. She cast a curse on all mortals that no one would love and would forever be afraid of other mortals. This meant that no one did ANYTHING. Feeling particularly uneasy after this (the gods depended on the mortals for worship yadda yadda etc etc), the King in the Clouds told his son to forfeit his champion. The god of sports and hunting didn’t exactly like this, so he gave his champion a protection ward that prevented him from ever being under the sway of love and affection. So the goddess gets her man but GASP he doesn’t return her affections. This shocks and hurts her but she quickly gets over it. She confines him within her den (she IS the Queen of Lions) and sleeps with him on a daily basis. AND THATS WHY THE WORLD HAS EARTHQUAKES!
Also, one of her daughters tried to free her father at one point but was caught. The goddess of love banished and shackled her mate to the bed for all of time and the daughter was cursed to love her progeny, which didn’t fly with the other gods so the entire city state was wiped off the map (there are other reasons but that’s one of the big ones).
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Can I have enough likes so OSP-snepai will notice me?
It's possible to be more selfish than Aphrodite?
brigidtheirish Oh yeah, I mean the goddess (let’s call her Attraction) is an irritant to every other god aside from the King of the Underworld (who is a skeleton with no emotions; it’s a complicated story). She was born after the god of knowledge and ingenuity (let’s call him Intelligence), which is my way of say “the goddess of dumb was born after the god of smarts).
Attractions barely listened to anyone but the King in the Clouds and Intelligence (mostly because NO ONE BUT the King in the Clouds messes with Intelligence and suffers no repercussions) and even then she did the bare minimum of what was asked of her. She is so selfish that she once saw her mate play with their children and got pissed that he was showing them affection at the time and not her (but that’s because of 5e ward I mentioned earlier). So what did she do? Banned all her children from seeing their father. This was BEFORE that one daughter tried to free him.
Attraction is the pinnacle of selfishness; she does whatever the hell she pleases, cares nothing for the consequences (most of the time), and wants nothing to do with her family. All she wants to do is sleep, eat, and fuck, often in that order.
@@ianmoone2488 Yikes. Congratulations on making a god more messed up than the Greeks.
brigidtheirish Thank you. I learned from some of the best. The world the novel is set in was invented during a mythology class I had in high school. That was as of now six years ago. I started by making the mythology of the world.
@@ianmoone2488 You're welcome. And very cool. Sounds like you made good use of that class.
Oh, Poseidons line was the best. Hahahaha
“Because EULGH and also EYEGHLGH…” is my favorite Red sentence. Lol
1:03
Greek Myths in a nutshell:
*Oh crap,that's a crime now?*
My headcannon: Aricia was an ace, just like Hip-I mean Virbius, therefore their marriage can be taken as an example of a sexless yet still happy relationship!
@Nectar Vam You know it ;)
@Nectar Vam I wonder who was the one(ok, it can't be only one) to classify all of that, there is a super specific word for basically any part of the spectrum
Actually Artemis sort of had a romantic but asexual relationship with Orion. So I guess it is possible?
@Nectar Vam or queerplatonic.
>Sexless romantic relationship
>happy
That concept is a lie and you damn well know it
Think that Artemis and Athena team up against Venus.
That is exception to the rule
@@TerryGShaw But there isn't a rule. Artemis and Athena don't really have many myths together. The iliad incident is the big one.
"'Aunt Artemis!' said Asklepios. 'Good to see you!'
Artemis laid the body of Hippolytos at his feet. 'Asklepios, I need you to heal Hippolytos. Please! This is even beyond my powers.'
'Hmm,' Asklepios said. 'What's wrong with him?'
'He's dead,' Artemis said
'That's a serious condition. It's almost always fatal. But I'll see what I can do.'"
That’s from PJO Greek gods Artemis chapter.
Ah, yes, death is almost always fatal.
@@fictional-girl_05 TBF it's greek mythology we're talking about. There are at least one or two instances where people came back to life(or in the case of Heracles, straight up become gods)
"Oh crap, that's a crime now?"
I had to pause the video to laugh at that one.
You'd think the Goddess of *Love* would hate people a bit less...
But Aphrodite just loves ruining stuff.
I don't think Aphrodite has ever embodied that aspect of Love (Harmony and Peace). She's virtually always been that kid who likes slamming random toys (mortals) together while screaming KISS KISS KISS.
@@CrimsonBlasphemy She's definitely NOT agape. (please add stress on the e)
@@CrimsonBlasphemy
I mean, yes, that's exactly what she's always been, but... it was just a joke on the general meaning of love in the English language and how love deities are generally depicted in modern fiction.
@@CrimsonBlasphemy she actually has a daughter who's kinda the goddess of that! Her name is Harmonia she's the god of Harmony and concord
@1:02 Very sound reasons indeed...
Aphrodite: *Makes beautiful women.*
Also Aphrodite when she sees a beautiful woman: 😠
1:08
Who else noticed that Theseus was reading a book on butt exercises?
For starters
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Greek mythology man. Don't think too hard on it, that way lies only madness.
"Dude, are you mad?"
"Me? Nah. Maenad mad at all ahhaahhaha"
@@dustonpage1280 good one!
Hey fun fact for you Percy mirrors Perseus in the fact they were both destined to kill their grandfathers have fun with the blown mind.
I like badassed more then sexy
Fight me Aphrodite
She fights dirty.
I like both but hey to each their own; something Miss Aphrodite needs to seriously learn.
Like that dude's birthmom. Lady can kick my ass and Im attracted to that alone.
You'd win against Aphrodite in a heart beat in direct combat. She's a total wimp and never deals with matters directly. Its always through some convoluted manner
But if you find badassery appealing, you still lost to Aphrodite because by loving badassery you are in love and thus her realm. checkmate.
Artemis: Oh HADES no!
Theseus: *gulps*
Okay but can we talk about how the Greek meaning for virgin just meant unmarried, and the idea of not having sex at all was applied later by Christians?
So I would characterize Athena and her priestesses, and Artemis and her hunters less as only an asexual affair like a lot of commenters seem to believe and more as broadly being potentially anything from lesbian, aromantic, asexual etc.
Yeah the whole plot of the illiad was kicked off by agamenon refusing to return a priest's daughter. So there may be some credence to your theory. My only objection is that virgin usually implies young and yet Hestia and Athena are usually depicted as very motherly and adult looking. Think madonna staues.
...Aphrodite has some issues.
**Gets crushed by a giant metal heart.**
_I REGRET NOTHING_
Anyone: I dont like dating
Aphrodite: and I took that personally
1:03 and 1:05 are my two constant moods
And much later, in the 1600s, a Frenchman by the name of Jean Racine would write his masterwork tragedy "Phèdre" based on all this. In his version, Aricia is the person with which Hippolytus falls in love, genuine reciprocated love. However they can not marry, because she is the sister of the Pallantids, Theseus’ mortal ennemies. To make things worst, Phaedra is cursed by Venus to fall in love with the worst person possible, her stepson, like her mother and sister before, whom fell in love with the Kretan Bull and Theseus, respectively, both with a terrible end for them. Chaos ensues when Theseus, having gone to the underworld with his companion Pirithous, is reported dead. That’s a rough synopsis; it’s a really good play, a definite must-read.
Aphrodite you need to chill like for real. All that just because people like are Artemis more. Am I the anyone who feels like the Greek gods aren't adults, but little kids or teenagers?😅😅
(Edit: Here's a challenge for everyone who reads this. Name one mythological group of gods that aren't petty/ not Greek God petty.)
(Edit #2: Aphrodite is just mad because they live that virgin life.🤣)
It's not just the Greek ones.
Yeah you're right. 🤣🤣
It's also like powers just make what's there more pronounced instead of solving things...
There is actually a book series were Mount Olympus is an Academy and most of the gods are students or teacher. I read it elementary school, it's called "Goddess Girls."
Hades and Hestia. Oh, and Athena
‘Divine form of the witness protection program’ is the best line I’ve heard all week god bless
For those having difficulty identifying it at first like I did, the song in the background at 0:12 is Kissing Strangers by DNCE. :3
Thanks friend
Thank you for doing a myth that involves Artemis more! She's my favorite goddess and I find it hard to find information about her. I remember you mentioning Orion and Artemis before and I was wondring if you could sacasticly (like you always do) do that myth. I completely understand if you don't! Have a great day!🙂
Ask and thou shall receive
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Hey, as long as it's a sentient and consenting bear, I ain't complainin'.
YES! This is the best video! The pictures are amazing! It's the best revenge story! Thank you Red! :) I love your videos! 1:17 that is all the proof you need to prove that Greek gods aren't the nicest, I mean the look on Poseidon's face says it all.
My English teacher showed your summary of Othello in class today because it was the only summary she could find that didn't confuse her earlier classes. Time to binge watch your videos (again)!
1:57 I never thought that a Chibi could ever be convincing with that expression. Well done Red