@@JoshtheOverlander Medea: What if they... Crowd: Is it murder? Medea: No... what if they die of natural causes... Crowd: Yeah? Medea: That um... we orchestrated? Crowd: So its murder
Atalanta: we need a plan. Medea: I have a plan Atalanta: we're not committing murder Medea: *sighs* you just like to suck the fun out of everything Later: Orpheus: he's dead. Medea: hey! I had nothing to do with it *points a bloody dagger at him and then hides it*
Hera: “Jason is my favorite human” Jason: *betrays his wife* Hera: “My friendship with Jason has ended.” Medea: *ruins Jason’s life for betraying him* Hera: “Medea is my favorite human now”
I mean punishing your cheating husband by hurting or killing other people is Herra's whole thing. 😂. She probably saw that it was like, " Finally somebody gets it ". 😅
Considering that Hera CONSTANTLY gets cheated on and always reserves and awful punishment for the people involved, its understandable that she'd totally be on Medea's side and be fully prepared to protect and forgive her.
Later Medea:uh...so. ... definitely did some...things. ...were still good right? Hera:...look,my brother/hubby is a pig and a half,our family is beyond dysfunctional and the only gods not completely insane are hades,his wife and the 3 kids he has. Considering the shit you went through were good. Medea: allright fair enough. Spill the tea did jason suffer? Hera:he died via the argo. Medea:...thats briliant. Later Medea:anyway thats why me and jason,really hate each other. Zagreus:hm...you ever think its because neither of you really talked about each others issues much? Medea:i mean maybe? ...probably. Zagreus: allright well ill see you. ...*looks at zeus and hera and sighs* ...who made you come see me? Hera:...im not at liberty to say. Zagreus:blood and darkness...OK. lady hera,lord Zeus,take a seat...we are going to be here a while.
@@Fummy007Huh? Do you mean Helios? Meda is a niece of Cierce, and thus a granddaughter of the sun god. In Greek mythology, if the character isn't a demigod or an oracle, they are almost certainly a descendant of Helios. Why, I do not know.
@@Thisone109 If i recall, most of Zeus' sons end up hating him at some point and make active efforts to not be like him (probably the most moral thing to do). But those who aren't his son but get godly blessings tend to steer towards becoming like him since there's no giant anti-rolemodel to give them a reminder of the awful thing that they have the potential of becoming via going mad with responsibility-free power.
Jason: Girl, you could be the Ariadne to my Theseus. Medea: You... want me to be the only reason you succeed on and survive your quest so that you can ditch me later? Jason: *sweats nervously*
Jason: No. Medea: OK, sure. Years later... Medea: I hate you. Jason: I don't care. You're useless. Medea: Then die by your own achievement, (bleep)! Jason: Yeah, right.
Jason to Medea: You're just the granddaughter of Helios and a priestess of Hecate(whom even Zeus doesn't dare disrespect), that's nothing compared to a normal Greek princess.
It's even more alarming when you consider the icongrophy of Medea on Helios' chariot. That shit's powerful, it got one of his son killed, and Medea just casually flies out with it.
Not just the granddaughter of Helios. Medea is a straight up demigoddess. Why? Because Aeëtes doesn't have a single drop of human blood in him. He's the son of a titan a a nymph, whose sisters are explicitly goddesses, so he's likely one himself.
Zeus: You're being weirdly nice to this hero Hera: He's literally the only person in Greece who isn't your bastard child Jason: *proceeds to cheat on his wife* Hera: Oh no, we're nipping this one in the bud!
@Squishy Soft Ducky Agreed. There was always this weird thing in Greek myth about Zeus eventually being usurped by his son just like how Cronos usurped his father and Zeus usurped him. Hera totally would have aided in that.
@@mvalthegamer2450 Yeah the timeline is a bit wonky, sometimes Theseus is an Argonaut, sometimes he is earlier, sometimes he is later. Hurray for unmodified oral traditions!
Can we compliment how Medea successfully planed and carried out a but ton of murders, got cursed magic artefacts, secured an escape plan in the span of 24 hours and had time to spare to give a bomb ass speech to Jason about how he's a disgrace
The King of Athens is probably the only unambiguously good mortal adult in this whole story. Heard what happened, offered sanctuary. He couldn’t bring Medea there himself (because politics or something) but the man knew who Medea was, knew about the murder of Jason’s uncle and Medea’s brother, among others, and he said she was welcome in Athens. That’s probably the nicest non-murdery person Medea ever encountered, honestly.
or he was just smarter than most of the rest of them. be friendly with badass boss woman, get a chick that not only looks hot on your arm but Also can smoke any enemies that try to pester your kingdom. plus he prolly knew jason... nuff said.
@fionagibson eh, sorry to ruin things for you, but the king of Athens pulls a Jason, marrying Medea, only to ditch her and their son Medus, for Theseus later on 😢
@@pagemasterartemis well to be fair Medea tried to get him to murder his own son, Theseus. I think if I had a wife I trusted and then she tried to murder my long lost son I would also kick her out.
@@pagemasterartemisTrue but in this case Medea basically got trauma triggered and got murdery as soon as she realized Theseus was Aegeus's son. Not that I don't understand where she is coming from, but if she hadn't tried to kill Theseus she wouldn't have been chased away.
@jedsultanik3093 especially since poor elderly Aegeus had come up with a whole contingency plan to find Theseus and basically told everyone that he was his last hope for Athens (he was an adult while Medea’s son was like 5) so Medea knew how much he was hoping Theseus would return. Debatable on how well that whole “sink all hopes into mystery abandoned son” plan worked out for him later though.
You’d have to be very, VERY, stupid to, especially when the someone in question you cheat on is the niece of Circe and granddaughter of Helios and you know is a powerful sorceress who has no problem with murder. And Jason was very very stupid
To be fair Jason didn’t cheat because he was attracted to another woman. He cheated because he was a king without a kingdom. He wanted to be a king because it was his birthright that’s why he went on the Argo to begin with. It was his whole goal in life
Let's be fair I doubt any woman would help her husband's affairs in anything. Just because she's a goddess doesn't mean she owes anyone anything. Jason is the biggest dumbass, he forgot who favored him and that there are conditions.
@@lyone2983 IIRC the myth correctly, it's never made clear if Jason ever even KNEW he had Hera's favour. There are versions of the myth where it's never mentioned that Hera ever revealed herself to him after he won her favour by helping her while she was disguised as the old woman, and she just helped him in secret the whole time, and Jason went on assuming that every time he got out of some predicament because she intervened to help him, he did it all himself, and he was just THAT good, steadily swelling his ego the whole time.
@Adam Wu That makes his downfall in the play make even more sense! With his ego gradually swelling and swelling, he definitely wouldn't be happy not being able to be royalty.
Fun fact: In some versions the prow of the Argos was a gift from Hera herself and could speak to give the advice in tines of danger. So it being the part of the ship that ends up killing Jason is even MORE ironic than before :=)
@@Daniel-jk6ve Yeah, there's lots of slightly different versions of all the myths floating around, each with tiny differences that can change the entire story :=)
Prow: Hey, Jason? Jason: Yeah? Prow: Close your eyes for a second. I want to show you a trick. Jason: OK. What is it? Prow: *crunch* Hera: Heh, that always slays me.
One of the last lines Medea says in the play is to Jason in regards to why she killed their children: "I hated you more than I loved them" and let me tell you, after watching a stage production of Medea, that line hits hard as fuck because at this point, Jason is on the floor bawling his eyes out while Medea's hands are covered in blood
The only couple in Greek myth I’d fear more is Hades and Persephone, and thankfully those two are reasonable, kind, and patient... Zeus and Hera on the other hand... Yeaaaaaah, yikes...
@@stygian8049 They jump on and off the ship as they progress through their mythological history. The main peeps only get off the boat to attend the funerals of those whose journey is concluded.
Something I just realized on my rewatch that adds a layer to this story: Jason wanted to court Glauce because she was royalty. However, his current wife, Medea, was already of royal blood, being the daughter of King Aeetes. This just goes to show that, even though Medea was royalty, he still saw her status as lower, and his feelings towards Colchis emphasizes that when he calls the place "barbarian." It could also emphasize even more that ruling is more important to him than his marriage, as Medea being exiled means there's no throne for him to inherit, despite his wife having royal blood. And even if he could inherit it, again he thinks if the place as "barbaric."
@@Silverwind87 To be fair, everyone was racist back then _especially_ the Greeks. Unless you were a king yourself, taking a foreign bride was downright scandalous in Greece.
Yeah georgia gave many thing to Greeks and greeks gave many things to Georgians and calling us barbarians is an absolute idiotic thing we were one of the most developed civilizations behind old greeks persians and Chinese
@@WinglessMoonstone well it was hard most of our people lived in mountains and small villages yeah Georgians were still new to all the fighting and stuff and because of that we didn't have copious amount of castles that we got after gaining independence from the Persians so it was normal people lived with normal lives in villages and everything was peaceful cholchis even had some Greek citys on its shore that were outposts welcomed by Georgians I even think it was better living there than in China because all the war collapse and stuff and to be honest that was the only period were Georgians had a good time of peace
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Given how the gods (and Hera specifically) are usually depicted as being pretty down to murder anyone who pisses them off, Medea’s actions can be seen as her carrying out their will.
@@KillerQueen-gx4vb The job of the furies is to relentlessly hound those who have committed crimes. It doesn't matter how many or how dire the crime is, if you commit a crime you will be hunted by them. Now, Medea was cleansed both by Circe and herself from all of her crimes by the end of her play, so the furies would no longer target her. Jason, on the other hand, has not been cleansed from his crime of adultery. So, I can't agree that the furies would go after Medea for what she did. I think they would be far more likely to hound Jason. Medea is cleansed; Jason is not.
@@KillerQueen-gx4vb The furies saw Medea as morally justified. She even said to Jason, good luck trying to convincing them to go after her. Moreover, Medea could just cleanse her sin.
@@WooffzTheCoon That was just my way of saying that Medea is a wicked witch. She practices witchcraft and she's a detached murderer; she more than fits the bill.
Adultery against the woman who likes to solve problems with *MURDER* was a terrible idea. Shame most of these Greek heroes aren't blessed with Foresight
The part about Jason’s comparison of Madea gets weirdly funny if it’s in a story where Theseus is part of the argonauts. Like “Yeah babe you totally remind me of that lady my boy Theseus screwed over that one time.”
Or if Theseus sees her later in Athens and is like “Wow, you look JUST like this girl who killed her brother for this dude I sailed with! Ever been to Corinth?” Medea: “Okay, yeah, time to die.”
I feel like at that moment Zeus just sat in a chair like Captain America did in Spider-Man Homecoming and went, "So, your chosen hero did something unbelievably stupid."
@@Ian-wn5lc Yeah, but I thought most of, if not all of Athena's charges turned out okay, and just figured Zeus fathered enough tragic heroes to root for at least one of them.
@@hellocentral5551 Athena was great. She was also one of the people that picked up after other gods on the regular. Also the only son of Zeus I know that wasn't partially an asshole was Perseus and he's also one of the few smart heroes who decided charging headfirst into combat was stupid when sneaking was an option and when you had a magic head that could turn anything to stone.
Nope, the only real moral is "Never go to Greece, and if your in there, Leave as soon as posisble." Your in danger wether your married or single, truthfull or deceitfull, good or bad, man or woman... very few people have peacefull lifes and thos who do often get target by the Gods Bullshit or by the Heros Bullshit.
Further moral: Always remember those who have contributed to your success. Jason screwed up when he screwed over both of the women who were behind his glory.
So out of all the Heroes the only one I can think of that Hera would absolutely adore is Odysseus. He wasn't a bastard born from Zeus which is already a huge starting point. He was intelligent, a family man, and incredibly loyal to his wife. Shunning all the other women that threw themselves at him but he remained faithful to his true love.
Also like the marriage bed made of s living tree thing. Honestly now that I think of it I'm surprised Hera isn't involved with that whole myth cuz like Penelope's whole thing is that shes trying to reject the suitors and stay faithful to her husband as well. Honestly im surprised Hera didn't like drag Poseidon away by the ear for continuing to ruin the most healthy monogamous relationship in ancient Greece
@@ariake18 also in these versions Circe often coerces him into sleeping with her while Calypso straight-up bewitches him until the gods tell her to knock it off.
Hera: “I gave you a hot, smart, powerful wife and you cheated on her. As queen of the gods and your patron goddess, I’m gonna go with a “No” on this one.”
@@hellothere702 Hades: Sis, pretty rare to see you down here. Knowing you guys, you're not just here to see me and Persie, are you? (sigh) What did our brother do now? Hera: No, he's clean...this time. But I do have some beef with someone here. I don't suppose, out of all the shades who end up down here everyday, you'd know a "Jason". Hades: Jason, lessee....ah, yeah him. He probably deserves whatever you wanna do to him, but please don't make a mess. Hera: Oh don't worry, I just wanna rub it in his face how much he screwed the pooch by wanting to screw some girl that's not the one I basically gift wrapped to him. (Hera finds Jason's shade and she basically does the "Think, Jason, Think!" routine on him)
If you think about it, if one doesn't consider the Argo a home, then Jason and the Argonauts might be one of the earliest tellings of a DnD murderhobo story filled with failed skill rolls at the worst times.
That's because the writer of this myth was presenting it to an all male audience. Ancient Greek men weren't very keen on the idea of justified mariticide because many of them were abusive to their wives, themselves. Besides condemning someone to self-torture is much better than killing them.
These two stories sound great. Story 1: Medea is a hero because she is a powerful sorceress who is will to kill people to achieve her goals. Story 2: Medea is an anti-hero or villain because she is a powerful sorceress who is will to kill people to achieve her goals.
@@ecurewitz Option #2: you live happy ever after ... as King and Queen of the Underworld. And terrifyingly dispose anyone who even so much tries to seduce your beloved
“The King and the Princess are dead and they’re blaming you and kids!” “Ooh, spill the tea! Did she suffer? Tell me she suffered.” I laughed for like a full minute 😅
I've watched ENTIRELY too much of the stuff by Project Mouthwash and their affiliates (Nat19, Let Them Play Games, Something Witty, etc.) because I totally heard that line in UBW Abridged Caster's voice.
Jason kept trying to prove how amazing he was, and how much he doesn't need Medea, but he literally has one myth that you can't tell without her. Meanwhile, his wife that he "didn't need" has multiple and her story can be told without him
I love the idea of a Jason and the Argonauts movie that after it ditches Heracles, periodically cuts back to him for like 5-10 seconds at a time for a running cutaway gag
@@rezafebriansyah8620 I'd say it's more cheating men must suffer, if medea had just wanted to kill Jason he would have died. But ruining his life "albeit by murdering her own children" was way more satisfying
@@rezafebriansyah8620 Then again, this does make me think of the Oresteia. If Medea let the kids live, they could have killed her later. I do not condone murdering your kids but we know how they would have gotten away with matricide.
So let me get this straight... Jason's evil uncle kills his father and presumably every male related to him, and takes the throne. Yet somehow... Jason killing his evil uncle to take back the throne disqualifies him?
Medea actually should have been in very big trouble for killing her kids, as kin-slaying was one of the crimes that would call down the Furies and their inescapable torment on your head. Unless Athena's whole, "killing your mother isn't kin-slaying because the woman is just the field the seed is planted in" bullshit applies here, too.
It's possibly due to Hera's guilt of forcing her to fall in love with Jason. She didn't have any feelings until Hera put those on her. So it's basically Hera indirectly killing those kids
That's true but a good theory would be that, that could only apply to demigods and humans because...you know human blood. Medea on the other hand is not human at all, her father is the son of the titan of the sun, helios and an oceanid while her mother Idyia is also an oceanid which are daughters of the titan of the ocean. Not to mention she is a priestess of Hecate a powerful titan with ties to the sky, ocean, and undersorld. I mean she literally has connections at the highest ( and lowest) places
@@pogfection787 He was in the Malebolge, the Eighth Circle, reserved for those guilty of fraud. Specifically, he was found in the First Bolgia, in which "panderers and seducers" are forced to march forever while demons scourge them. This is justified by him not only seducing and using Medea, but also doing the same to Queen Hypsipyle of Lemnos before her. Longfellow's translation: And the good Master, without my inquiring, Said to me: "See that tall one who is coming, And for his pain seems not to shed a tear; Still what a royal aspect he retains! That Jason is, who by his heart and cunning The Colchians of the Ram made destitute. He by the isle of Lemnos passed along After the daring women pitiless Had unto death devoted all their males. There with his tokens and with ornate words Did he deceive Hypsipyle, the maiden Who first, herself, had all the rest deceived. There did he leave her pregnant and forlorn; Such sin unto such punishment condemns him, And also for Medea is vengeance done. With him go those who in such wise deceive; And this sufficient be of the first valley To know, and those that in its jaws it holds."
@@WraythSkitzofrenik he didn’t put Jason in hell because he was a deceiver because he deceived Medea. He put him in hell like allot of other greek heroes because he was greek. For some reason Dante had a real fetish for hating greeks and their notable heroes. One reason is because he was Italian and “ roman excellence” or whatever. Let’s not forget this is the man who made an entire epic story about his imaginary hell, purgatory, and heaven just so he could find a women who he might as well as have met once. And then loves her until he dies. Not exactly the best judge of character here. Great fiction writing but not great character.
Considering Jason says that he should have taken her being willing to kill her family as a red flag, Medea should have seen him comparing her to Ariadne, a girl who also got ditched by the man she helped as a red flag. Also Jason your patron goddess is the goddess of marriage and family, how did you not see you abandoning your wife and children for another woman going badly!
Medea: "Then I give him his ship back... right on top of him." Chorus: "He had it coming! He had it coming! He only had himself to blame. If you'd have been there, if you'd have seen it, I betcha you would have done the same!"
Now I want a cover of this with some of the wronged women in Greek mythology. We got Medea, Ariadne, and Helen so far. I vote Penelope for Hunyak (the one woman who didn't murder her husband).
If you want extra spice for your poison, the servants initially think Glauke is being possessed by Pan and they're happy because the ecstasy of Pan is a good thing I think? Then when she sets on fire they are all suddenly horrified. Also there's a vivid description of the death of Creon (Glauke's dad) which Red completely glosses over because it's nasty. He gets stuck to her and basically tears himself apart trying to pull himself off.
4:13 a curious fact: Jason have another “Ariadne”, Hypsipyle, the literal granddaughter of Ariadne. Queen of Lemnos, Jason left her pregnant with twins and with promises of come back. Hypsipyle never seen him again because he dies before that
After watching several times, I realized that only Medea got the love arrow, but not Jason. I don't know if the mythos states that it works with one person getting the love arrow or both, but I think that entire tragedy could've been averted if Hera had just told Eros to hit Jason as well. Never know with Ancient Greece and all 🤷♀️
Hera: Goddess of Marriage Jason: Cheats Hera: Angery Also Hera: Goddess of motherhood Medea: KILLS HER KIDS Hera: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that."
@@firemarioproductions2003 apparently the Corinthians complained to Euripides about how in a version of the play the Corinthians killed then children and he changed it
@@firemarioproductions2003 In the original version of the play, Jason and Medea’s children were killed by an angry mob of Corinthians after the princess Glauce died. But so many people complained about that ending to Euripides (the author of the play) that he changed it to Medea killing her own children herself.
Medea: “Alright Medea, remember to play it cool when you see Jason. You don’t want to look desperate!” Jason: “So Medea, can I ask a fav-“ Medea: “I’LL DO IT!”
Jason, at the end of the play: "Oh no, being an arsehole to a powerful sorceress, who's the granddaughter of the sun Titan and abandoned everything to constantly save my arse, came back to bite me!"
@@louparis1909 yeah...also jason is like one of the very few heroes who does not have some direct divine blood connection. this is very much a case of jason being more than a little screwed in this kind of situation. like seriously, he should have just been happy with medea and maybe go see circe again to try and get that whole accessory to crime thing clensed. but Nope. jason you absolute dingus.
You could honestly say that Medea was acting exactly like Hera. Jason cheats on her just as Zeus has cheated on Hera multiple times. Despite having the power to kill him, Medea chooses to instead kill his fiancé and his kids so that he can experience the same pain as her. Again, this method is used by Hera all the time. You could go even further and say that Medea betraying her father for Jason so that he can become king is similar to Hera betraying Cronos so that Zeus can become king of the gods. Even Medea managing to get away with murdering Jason’s girlfriend and kids is exactly like Hera. Once more, Hera ends up saving Medea and punishing Jason. I don’t know what’s more ironic, Jason being punished the exact same way Zeus is or Hera creating a couple who has the exact same relationship as her and Zeus. Either way, Red you made me want to read this story.
Hera didn't betrayed Cronus because she wanted to marry Zeus but to overthrew him and his tyranny ( because he ate his own children to protect his throne). It was Zeus who tricked Hera to marry him. Hera initially didn't wanted to marry Zeus at all.
@@agniswar3 Feel like a closer equivalent would perhaps be Metis, who helped Zeus overthrow Cronus, despite not being in danger of being killed by Cronus, only to eventually be betrayed be Zeus (her son would continue the trend of ruling gods being overthrown by the progeny)
@@luminaravelms4701 Instead, Athena came of this union, who joined her half siblings in the rank of Zeus' wretched blood which had already been Cronus' wretched blood. She could have become a true Goddess of Wisdom like her mother, but she instead remained her father's violent little schemer.
I loved this video so much! Medea's long been my favorite myth lady for reasons even I couldn't nail down, given that I'd only encountered her in vague summary and later Euripides. It's strange and almost funny to realize that, apparently, she was in the right for most of things: obeyed the gods, kept her oaths, did what she had to (can't condone the childmurder deal but the play.. does give proper context decently at least. Oof though). Being pulled out of there by the literal sun chariot itself is ABSOLUTE proof that the gods still favored her more than anyone else in that story. Also great job to Jason for forgetting that she's literally priestess AND granddaughter of Helios (who is son of a primordial TITAN, hello), therefore niece to other phenomenal sorceress Circe, and also a princess in her own right even if she isn't a Greek princess. Sir, she had WAY more to offer you than unlucky Glaucis. When I was a kid and didn't get the nuances, I felt bad for him getting bonked by his own boat. Now? He deserved it.
Theia's bloodline produced a surprising number of powerful witches: Circe, Pasiphea, Aeetes, Medea. You'd think Jadon would have known better than deceiving people with that kind of lineage and patronage (Hecate). By divinity rank alone, her patron deity outrank his.
I learned a few days ago that Medea was the only woman that Zeus popped a boner for, but didn't force himself onto her after she refused him not wanting to incur Hera's wrath. Because of that, Hera offered to make her children immortal.
Mythologically, if someone is fucking with Hera and it's NOT Zeus, the usual suspects would be Aphrodite and/or Discord...and I could totally see Aphrodite shipping Jason and Glauce over Medea, and setting the two up while Discord just laughs and laughs and laughs in the background, the entire time. Medea isn't the type of hero that Aphrodite goes for...she's too clever and strong-willed, like Psyche...Medea is more Athena's cup of tea, being a strategic planner, highly skilled in various arts, and passing her trials through metis (cunning/brilliance/mental strength) like Odysseus. Kind of little wonder then, that Euripedes has Medea find shelter in Athens, Athena's patron-city, at the end of the play (besides the fact that Euripedes had almost all of his main characters find shelter in Athens after their tragedies, like Heracles, because Euripedes was an Athenian playing to an Athenian audience and used the other citystates and Greek kingdoms as allegories for socio-political issues going on in Athens, like Star Trek uses aliens and planets-of-the-week for tackling real issues and events).
@@sklaWlivE oooh interesting! Also, I can see it now Hera and Zeus both raging, Aphrodite wondering how it all ended so badly and Eris (goddess of discord) just laughing her head off in the background-
"The first half of her life is an epic, the second half is a tragedy." The excessively long subtitle to my autobiography "Unfortunate Half-Choices" has finally been found.
I’ve watched this video at least five times, and this is the first time I’ve noticed that right before Glouki catches fire, she starts smoking and looking a bit ill. I love this channel so much
You know when I first saw this, I had a chuckle, and then considered how I was almost 100% sure to be let down in the near future due to the mass media's over usage of the word “literally”, making it lose meaning, and giving people false hope, but then it *actually happened*, so all I can do now is tip my hat, and apologize for doubting you.
Said to Medea, granddaughter of the sun, in a flying chariot sent by the gods, exiting in a literal Deus ex machina. Medea who is also a priestess of Hecate. That Medea will be punished by the gods.
I can imagine Jason and Hercules talking after it all goes down. 'Yeah, so I decided to marry King Creon's daughter and both she and my kids died because of what I did','Oh wow, me too. The wrath of Hera is the worst','Wait, you betrayed Hera too by breaking your marriage oaths?','No, I'm just a son of Zeus thus Hera hates me... Wait, are you telling me that you WILLINGLY decided to piss Hera off','Um...'
"He compares her to Ariadne helping Theseus through the maze" yeah you know the girl who got abandoned on an island by said guy she helped. Greek women married to Greek heroes just can't win.
"Murder, the plan is murder" "We can make a religion out of this" "No, don't" This has actually been one of the most fascinating stories I've watched, it feels really modern and by how widespread misogynistic the ancient world was it's really cool to see that the tragedy of Medea isn't because she ends up in tragedy but due to the actions of a dipshit. Never cheat on anyone, but specially on your touched by the gods sorceress wife. There's screwing up hard and then there's Jason. Don't be Jason.
Exactly! This is why Euripedes is often called an early feminist writer. This play is aggressively modern and the text itself dissects Medea's status as a foreign woman and what that means. Women's lack of personal power is a theme, which Medea turns on its head with her sorcery. The chorus serves as the "public" character and Medea convinces them she's sympathetic. It forces the audience to address the plight of women, which in ancient Greece was Not Great.
Yeah, don't be Jason. Be like Percy! He got all that he wanted in life, and helped those who needed it, and all he had to do was kill some monsters. Remember kids, killing people is bad, but killing monsters is good!
“Hey your husband wants to marry this other woman so that he can pursue his dreams of power so we’re just gonna exile you before you can do anything about it” WHAT
Tbf, "because when you do something about it it always involves murdering family members, and as the father of the new wife I think I see where this is going".
With how greek stories go and medea's pre existing history of murder, that was probably the smartest decision the king had ever made. Only to be followed by the worst decision the king ever made, giving her time.
@@orlando780 I would argue the worst decision he made was agreeing to let Jason marry his daughter, knowing full well that Jason was married to a woman who had previously demonstrated just how far she'll go in the name of a cause.
Can I just pause and talk about how well you drew and narrated this. The art is incredible! The shading on that frame where Jason and Medea stand in front of the moon is immaculate, and I love that both of them have hair that is so unique and immediately recognizable from just short descriptions. I especially love Medea’s long curls, it looks like you really spent a lot of time getting them just right. Their outfits suit them well, and the whole style is just so beautiful and interesting. The narration is perfect too, summarizing such a beautiful and tragic story so well. I also love that you kind of frame Medea as the protagonist rather than Jason, because it plays with the audience’s perceptions of good and evil. Like, even though Jason is originally the protagonist in most tellings of this particular legend, he does such morally reprehensible shit and gets away with it because he’s the hero. Plot armor and all that. Medea on the other hand is a far more complex and fascinating character who really just wanted her happily ever after with her family. Instead, she becomes the evil sorceress to Jason’s hero hubris and idiocy. It’s a really compelling way to make this story work, and I really appreciate this video. Thank you Red.
I've sort of co-opted this story for one of my D&D characters, a literal barbarian named Eris who's smitten by a devilishly handsome rogue, the latter wanting nothing more than great wealth and power and uses Eris' murder muscles to get him what he wants. He later finds a different woman who he promises to marry even though he made the same promise to Eris and had a kid with her. The campaign ended, surprisingly, with this other woman backstabbing the rogue, explaining that she was using him and disposing of him when she was finished, and Eris and the kid living somewhat gaily ever after.
Plus Zeus punishes oathbreakers, making Jason the second thing in the Greek Mythos to make Hera and Zeus agree on something. The first thing was that they needed to kill their dick of a dad
@@supreme_king_obama1158, correction, Jason's the third: second is that Hestia and Hades are going to be the only ones with some semblance of sanity. Not even the gods could have been that chaotic in by their own doing without some form of planning.
Jason being crushed under the falling prow of the rotting Argo is all the funnier when you remember the figurehead on the prow of the Argo WAS AN IMAGE OF HERA. Hera was so miffed at Jason she DROPPED A STATUE OF HERSELF ON HIM. Given how anal the greek pantheon are about desecration and destruction of their images, he had to have managed some SERIOUS Hera-rage for that to happen! And, for the record, before anyone points it out, this is from a more hollywoodized version of the legend where the figurehead of the Argo was on the back... along with its prow. I prefer to think of it as being this version because the thought of a guy who pissed of Hera to such an extreme degree being squished to death under a big wooden statue of Hera is too ironically hilarious.
This is the version of the story I heard way back in the day, and it's still the one I cling to. It's just too poetic justice that he literally got squished by Hera she was so DONE with him after he screwed over his wife
I heard that it might not have been the prow, but the magically enchanted-by-Hera mast that used to be a guiding voice in the trip for the Golden fleece. Either way he got crushed by the most substantial parts of the boat that was decorated by Hera.
@@cgkase6210 Zeus: (readies lightning) Hera: "Nonono, honey... I got something better. Besides, you get to smite people all the time. Let me have a turn." (Hera drops the chunk of the Argo on Jason. Zeus stares a moment, thinks, and then they both just start laughing hysterically.) Zeus: "You know, I might get with other ladies, but THIS is why I married YOU."
I think a lot of people don't see the point of the story, Medea and Jason are both bad, there is no hero here. the point of the story is watch out how far revenge will take you. As Medea is rightfully weeping how Jason betrayed her love she then does the very same thing to her children. yeah she hurt while doing it but that doesn't stop the irony of her decisions. shes a horrible person and so is Jason, both are in the wrong the only difference is Jason gets punished.
I mean, girl was literally commanded by the god's to love this guy and risked everything to help him, only for him to betray her trust and break every promise he'd ever made to anyone/any deity. While I don't condone child murder, I can see how someone would be driven to murder just to spite someone. Because sometimes living with the consequences of your actions is worse than dying to atone for them.
listen, sometimes you just can't have kids and gotta enlist the help of your powerful sorceress friend to help out, you know (and also offer her sanctuary before you even figure out her plan is killing the royal family and also her children)
There is no other context. He was just impotent. (In some tellings Medea gets offered sanctuary in Athens only after she fixes that for him so its slightly more plot relevant)
Naw, pretty sure this is self explanatory. In a world where Viagra hasn't been invented yet, making a call directly to the gods is the next best solution to erectile dysfunction.
The Audio:
“Zeus’ girlfriend of the week”
The Captions:
“Zeus’ victim of the week”
Sad but true
Dear God I thought you were being punny but you were actually being serious!
😂
LOL
They are pretty much the same thing
“Anybody have a plan?”
Medea raises hand*
“Not murder”
Medea puts hand down*
Dammit, now I want a comedy centered around Medea as a tricksy antihero who's Plan A is always murder in one way or another.
@@JoshtheOverlander Medea: What if they...
Crowd: Is it murder?
Medea: No... what if they die of natural causes...
Crowd: Yeah?
Medea: That um... we orchestrated?
Crowd: So its murder
but murder is teh best plan
@@coolgreenbug7551 PERFECT! PRINT IT, SELL IT, MERCHANDISE IT!
Atalanta: we need a plan.
Medea: I have a plan
Atalanta: we're not committing murder
Medea: *sighs* you just like to suck the fun out of everything
Later:
Orpheus: he's dead.
Medea: hey! I had nothing to do with it *points a bloody dagger at him and then hides it*
Hera: “Jason is my favorite human”
Jason: *betrays his wife*
Hera: “My friendship with Jason has ended.”
Medea: *ruins Jason’s life for betraying him*
Hera: “Medea is my favorite human now”
Hera was the real power behind the gods.
Nice pfp
Perfect! 😂
I mean punishing your cheating husband by hurting or killing other people is Herra's whole thing. 😂. She probably saw that it was like, " Finally somebody gets it ". 😅
@@alexgregg1058not that it was not justified, Medea was right till the end
“It’s murder. The plan is murder.”
*THE WAY SHE SAYS IT SO DEADPAN GETS ME EVERY TIME*
SAME
I loved: He started to worry she would do something drastic, like, just spitballing here, murder.
Lol
It's Ancient Greece, if the plan wasn't murder then that'd be more of a surprise than anything actually
it’s in almost every fun myth or legend 😂
*Media telling Jason he’ll be crushed under the weight of his only achievement*
Hera watching from the sidelines: Ooh let me make a note of this
I thought he was gonna get squished by a giant sandal
@@turnipmanz1754 lmao like a bug
Write that down, write that down!
Medea: You'll be crushed under the weight of your only achievement
Jason: Proceeds to sleep under the roting weight of his only achievement
@@lockdown550 to be fair, was anyone expecting her statement to be quite that literal?
Moral of the story: Medea thought Jason was a himbo, turns out he was actually a frat bro
Tell me he' wrong!
@@jacobnoelle8428 He's wrong.
... you never said anything about lying.
Yes, he was beefy. Yes, he was dumb of ass. But was he pure of heart? No
@@lunastudios1817 "dumb of ass" I love it.
Jason: I'm going to cheat on my wife and marry someone else!
Zeus: Shucks, Chuck! I thought you were a cool poppa, but I guess you're just an ANUS!
Considering that Hera CONSTANTLY gets cheated on and always reserves and awful punishment for the people involved, its understandable that she'd totally be on Medea's side and be fully prepared to protect and forgive her.
Later
Medea:uh...so. ... definitely did some...things. ...were still good right?
Hera:...look,my brother/hubby is a pig and a half,our family is beyond dysfunctional and the only gods not completely insane are hades,his wife and the 3 kids he has. Considering the shit you went through were good.
Medea: allright fair enough. Spill the tea did jason suffer?
Hera:he died via the argo.
Medea:...thats briliant.
Later
Medea:anyway thats why me and jason,really hate each other.
Zagreus:hm...you ever think its because neither of you really talked about each others issues much?
Medea:i mean maybe? ...probably.
Zagreus: allright well ill see you. ...*looks at zeus and hera and sighs* ...who made you come see me?
Hera:...im not at liberty to say.
Zagreus:blood and darkness...OK. lady hera,lord Zeus,take a seat...we are going to be here a while.
exactly!
@@lolbots686 I mean, it’s not like Medea wasn’t attempting to tell Jason about her issues.
Apollo saved Medea cos she was his granddaughter, not Hera.
@@Fummy007Huh? Do you mean Helios? Meda is a niece of Cierce, and thus a granddaughter of the sun god.
In Greek mythology, if the character isn't a demigod or an oracle, they are almost certainly a descendant of Helios.
Why, I do not know.
Friendly reminder: Medea is Circe's niece.
Makes sense.
EVEN BETTER
Circe and Aeetes (Medea's father) are both children of Helios (God of the Sun), so that means Circe is Medea's aunt. It does make sense.
@@Blokewood3 That explains why Medea had access to Helios's chariot.
Yoooo😎🤟🏼
And Ariadne’s Cousin ^^
For not being Zeus's son, he sure acts like one.
He acts like a Zeus son more than most actual Zeus sons.
Perseus and Heracles didn't really act like Zeus tbh.
@@Thisone109
If i recall, most of Zeus' sons end up hating him at some point and make active efforts to not be like him (probably the most moral thing to do). But those who aren't his son but get godly blessings tend to steer towards becoming like him since there's no giant anti-rolemodel to give them a reminder of the awful thing that they have the potential of becoming via going mad with responsibility-free power.
@@decoral Heracles died because he was about to ditch his N-th wife.
its basically
Zeus's sons: man dad is an asshole
People blessed by zeus: we are the origin of fuckboy's
Jason: "Hera, I thought we were freinds!"
Hera: "that ended when you did something my husband would do"
THIS!!!!^^^^^ Exactly!! The entire story summed up!! Thank you!!
Yeah, Hera was probably watching Medea, sipping on wine, and saying "wreck his shit, girlfriend!"
Best summary of the ending
Yep that definitely feels right.
The second half of this video in a nutshell.
Jason: Girl, you could be the Ariadne to my Theseus.
Medea: You... want me to be the only reason you succeed on and survive your quest so that you can ditch me later?
Jason: *sweats nervously*
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
@@ishithamantripragada9514 pretty much. man, the name Jason is just fuckin cursed as far as fiction is concerned.
Jason: No.
Medea: OK, sure.
Years later...
Medea: I hate you.
Jason: I don't care. You're useless.
Medea: Then die by your own achievement, (bleep)!
Jason: Yeah, right.
I really can't blame Jason for cheating lol.
@@N.I.A23 What! Why?
Jason to Medea:
You're just the granddaughter of Helios and a priestess of Hecate(whom even Zeus doesn't dare disrespect), that's nothing compared to a normal Greek princess.
Jason's own idiotic logic
It's even more alarming when you consider the icongrophy of Medea on Helios' chariot. That shit's powerful, it got one of his son killed, and Medea just casually flies out with it.
Medea is so cool!!!😁
Not just the granddaughter of Helios. Medea is a straight up demigoddess. Why? Because Aeëtes doesn't have a single drop of human blood in him. He's the son of a titan a a nymph, whose sisters are explicitly goddesses, so he's likely one himself.
@@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571 Just a straight up goddess herself.
Zeus: You're being weirdly nice to this hero
Hera: He's literally the only person in Greece who isn't your bastard child
Jason: *proceeds to cheat on his wife*
Hera: Oh no, we're nipping this one in the bud!
lol
Zeus: So he also broke an oath to her, which is my domain. I know we don't agree on most things, but... truce?
Hera: Truce.
She can't even have one nice hero.
@Squishy Soft Ducky Agreed. There was always this weird thing in Greek myth about Zeus eventually being usurped by his son just like how Cronos usurped his father and Zeus usurped him. Hera totally would have aided in that.
@@louparis1909 wouldn't blame her for that tho
"He compares her to Ariadne helping Theseus through the Minotaur's maze."
GIRL THAT’S A RED FLAG-
"So you're setting me up with Dionysus?"
Before Thesus is even born
Hey, at least she didn't get replaced with a child like Ariadne.
I'm told the Minotaur loved red flags.
@@mvalthegamer2450 Yeah the timeline is a bit wonky, sometimes Theseus is an Argonaut, sometimes he is earlier, sometimes he is later. Hurray for unmodified oral traditions!
Can we compliment how Medea successfully planed and carried out a but ton of murders, got cursed magic artefacts, secured an escape plan in the span of 24 hours and had time to spare to give a bomb ass speech to Jason about how he's a disgrace
She heard "How much Damage can you do in only one day?" and accepted the challange.
@@plinfan6541 i aspire to one day be at her level
@@plinfan6541
Her answer tae that question was clearly "Yes".
Ok, I’m saying this so it might be seen, but, did Jason not explain the whole “ marrying the princess to protect Medea and his kids” to Medea?
@@charlemagne2442
He didn't. He wasn't thinking of anyone but himself. If it had been a scheme, Medea likely would hae had notes.
The King of Athens is probably the only unambiguously good mortal adult in this whole story. Heard what happened, offered sanctuary. He couldn’t bring Medea there himself (because politics or something) but the man knew who Medea was, knew about the murder of Jason’s uncle and Medea’s brother, among others, and he said she was welcome in Athens. That’s probably the nicest non-murdery person Medea ever encountered, honestly.
or he was just smarter than most of the rest of them.
be friendly with badass boss woman, get a chick that not only looks hot on your arm but Also can smoke any enemies that try to pester your kingdom.
plus he prolly knew jason... nuff said.
@fionagibson eh, sorry to ruin things for you, but the king of Athens pulls a Jason, marrying Medea, only to ditch her and their son Medus, for Theseus later on 😢
@@pagemasterartemis well to be fair Medea tried to get him to murder his own son, Theseus. I think if I had a wife I trusted and then she tried to murder my long lost son I would also kick her out.
@@pagemasterartemisTrue but in this case Medea basically got trauma triggered and got murdery as soon as she realized Theseus was Aegeus's son. Not that I don't understand where she is coming from, but if she hadn't tried to kill Theseus she wouldn't have been chased away.
@jedsultanik3093 especially since poor elderly Aegeus had come up with a whole contingency plan to find Theseus and basically told everyone that he was his last hope for Athens (he was an adult while Medea’s son was like 5) so Medea knew how much he was hoping Theseus would return. Debatable on how well that whole “sink all hopes into mystery abandoned son” plan worked out for him later though.
Imagine having HERA HERSELF set you up with a powerful, hot, rich girl and then you cheat on her cause ‘haha hot girl is hot’
You’d have to be very, VERY, stupid to, especially when the someone in question you cheat on is the niece of Circe and granddaughter of Helios and you know is a powerful sorceress who has no problem with murder. And Jason was very very stupid
@@adeleaslan8182 the only reason he didn’t live with the guilt of murdering a bunch of people was cause Circe was like “oh cool my niece”
@@morelikeabitc-7241 for real, Jason’s biggest accomplishment was getting women to do his work and look good
To be fair, Hera making Medea fall in love with Jason against her will led to Medea losing access to her family fortune.
To be fair Jason didn’t cheat because he was attracted to another woman. He cheated because he was a king without a kingdom. He wanted to be a king because it was his birthright that’s why he went on the Argo to begin with. It was his whole goal in life
I like how Hera is explicitly saying that she *would* help more heroes if the majority of them weren't Zeus' bastards xD
Let's be fair I doubt any woman would help her husband's affairs in anything. Just because she's a goddess doesn't mean she owes anyone anything. Jason is the biggest dumbass, he forgot who favored him and that there are conditions.
@@lyone2983 IIRC the myth correctly, it's never made clear if Jason ever even KNEW he had Hera's favour. There are versions of the myth where it's never mentioned that Hera ever revealed herself to him after he won her favour by helping her while she was disguised as the old woman, and she just helped him in secret the whole time, and Jason went on assuming that every time he got out of some predicament because she intervened to help him, he did it all himself, and he was just THAT good, steadily swelling his ego the whole time.
@Adam Wu That makes his downfall in the play make even more sense! With his ego gradually swelling and swelling, he definitely wouldn't be happy not being able to be royalty.
@@lyone2983
Too freaking true
@@adora_ble_ He lost his royalty and that’s his whole motivation for the deeds he’s done. There’s a bit of nuance here.
Fun fact: In some versions the prow of the Argos was a gift from Hera herself and could speak to give the advice in tines of danger. So it being the part of the ship that ends up killing Jason is even MORE ironic than before :=)
🤔 I never realized that.
@@Daniel-jk6ve Yeah, there's lots of slightly different versions of all the myths floating around, each with tiny differences that can change the entire story :=)
Prow: Hey, Jason?
Jason: Yeah?
Prow: Close your eyes for a second. I want to show you a trick.
Jason: OK. What is it?
Prow: *crunch*
Hera: Heh, that always slays me.
@@colinmerritt7645 Ha! LOL! I can see that happening :=)
Lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
One of the last lines Medea says in the play is to Jason in regards to why she killed their children: "I hated you more than I loved them" and let me tell you, after watching a stage production of Medea, that line hits hard as fuck because at this point, Jason is on the floor bawling his eyes out while Medea's hands are covered in blood
holy sh!t...that's insane. i just got chills.
“Zeus punishes oathbreakers and Hera is the goddess of marriage. You might be the only thing they ever agree on.” Spot on
It was at this moment Jason knew... _he fucked up._
The only couple in Greek myth I’d fear more is Hades and Persephone, and thankfully those two are reasonable, kind, and patient...
Zeus and Hera on the other hand... Yeaaaaaah, yikes...
“Zeus punishes oathbreakers”
Zeus, you cheat on your wife, that HAS to be breaking some kind of oath.
@@yumiendercat3685 Zeus is also King of the gods. You can break any oath you want if there's nobody who can punish you for it.
@@yumiendercat3685 They never said he punishes hypocrites.
“An excuse to let an ensemble cast of heroes do weird island shit for a while”
Why has nobody told me of the existence of ancient greek One Piece
☝️😯.....🤔.....wait that actually genius.
Or avengers...but ancient Greek, in seas, and losing casts on their way
@@stygian8049
They jump on and off the ship as they progress through their mythological history. The main peeps only get off the boat to attend the funerals of those whose journey is concluded.
@@clayxros576 the production can't keep up with herakles' high pay so they just put his name on the title and 5 minutes screentime.
@@stygian8049
Oh I love that. Maybe get an actor to play him like one of the Marvel Chris actors to make said appearance just for the bit.
Something I just realized on my rewatch that adds a layer to this story: Jason wanted to court Glauce because she was royalty. However, his current wife, Medea, was already of royal blood, being the daughter of King Aeetes. This just goes to show that, even though Medea was royalty, he still saw her status as lower, and his feelings towards Colchis emphasizes that when he calls the place "barbarian." It could also emphasize even more that ruling is more important to him than his marriage, as Medea being exiled means there's no throne for him to inherit, despite his wife having royal blood. And even if he could inherit it, again he thinks if the place as "barbaric."
So on top of being an adulterer, a gaslighter, and a complete douche, he's also a racist! Charming.
@@Silverwind87
To be fair, everyone was racist back then _especially_ the Greeks. Unless you were a king yourself, taking a foreign bride was downright scandalous in Greece.
Yeah georgia gave many thing to Greeks and greeks gave many things to Georgians and calling us barbarians is an absolute idiotic thing we were one of the most developed civilizations behind old greeks persians and Chinese
@@georgiancountryball202 Interesting! What was your country's daily living like in ancient times compared to those two countries?
@@WinglessMoonstone well it was hard most of our people lived in mountains and small villages yeah Georgians were still new to all the fighting and stuff and because of that we didn't have copious amount of castles that we got after gaining independence from the Persians so it was normal people lived with normal lives in villages and everything was peaceful cholchis even had some Greek citys on its shore that were outposts welcomed by Georgians I even think it was better living there than in China because all the war collapse and stuff and to be honest that was the only period were Georgians had a good time of peace
Jason is the literal fulfillment of “you die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
Jason died and Medea kept on living after destroying both her family and Jason's; who's gonna live long enough to see who become a villain now?!
So Jason Alter is definitely a thing now?
@@Lemuel928 Would give Souichirou Hoshi an excuse to basically act like Black Mask Akechi in FGO, and I'm all for that
N0 ALWAYS EVL
Not Heracles tho, he lived long and still died a hero
"Mom, there's this bully in school and i need your hel-"
"It's murder, the solution is murder."
Me to my kids I'll never have.
Jojolion moment
To paraphrase the legendary orator Cicero:
"STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB!! And then...STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB!!!"
...wait, wrong Cicero...
@@BlackSwordMeister”RULE BREAKER!”
Jason: “Alright, what I miss?”
The chorus: “You’ll never have child support again...”
😅😂🤣💀. Horrible but funny lol.
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Given how the gods (and Hera specifically) are usually depicted as being pretty down to murder anyone who pisses them off, Medea’s actions can be seen as her carrying out their will.
Not all the gods. The furies had a moral code. Technically, the furies should have gone after Medea.
@@KillerQueen-gx4vb The job of the furies is to relentlessly hound those who have committed crimes. It doesn't matter how many or how dire the crime is, if you commit a crime you will be hunted by them. Now, Medea was cleansed both by Circe and herself from all of her crimes by the end of her play, so the furies would no longer target her. Jason, on the other hand, has not been cleansed from his crime of adultery.
So, I can't agree that the furies would go after Medea for what she did. I think they would be far more likely to hound Jason. Medea is cleansed; Jason is not.
@@KillerQueen-gx4vb The furies saw Medea as morally justified. She even said to Jason, good luck trying to convincing them to go after her. Moreover, Medea could just cleanse her sin.
I like the idea that Medea is still out there somewhere, as she never canonical dies.
She probably ended up moving to Russia where she became Baba Yaga. lol
@@videogollumerMYTHOLOGY HEADCANNON TIME
@@WooffzTheCoon That was just my way of saying that Medea is a wicked witch. She practices witchcraft and she's a detached murderer; she more than fits the bill.
Medea is just like Polka; both never die
@@videogollumeroh god, that would be pure horror
Adultery against the woman who likes to solve problems with *MURDER* was a terrible idea. Shame most of these Greek heroes aren't blessed with Foresight
It's not their fault, some idiot chained Foresight on a cliff somewhere and had eagles eat his liver.
Cursed hubris.
@@timothymclean holy shit i never tought about it that way.
@@timothymclean to be fair he was released, but I think by this point Jason was already dead so it made little difference
They aren't blessed with Foresight because He's chained into the mountain and perpetually eated by Aquila, at least until Heracles pass by.
The part about Jason’s comparison of Madea gets weirdly funny if it’s in a story where Theseus is part of the argonauts. Like “Yeah babe you totally remind me of that lady my boy Theseus screwed over that one time.”
Or if Theseus sees her later in Athens and is like “Wow, you look JUST like this girl who killed her brother for this dude I sailed with! Ever been to Corinth?”
Medea: “Okay, yeah, time to die.”
Also, Ariadne and Medea are cousins.
@@Blokewood3 Awkward.
The Argonauts are literally a D&D party.
Hercules - Barbarian
Jason - Fighter
Atalanta - Ranger
Medea - Wizard
Orpheus - Bard
In some versions Autolycus might be there too, in which case he'd be the rogue.
A Madea's and Jason's breakup was because the players broke up to
I think sorcerer fits Medea more, since she was a granddaughter of Helios, who's other female offspring also had a penchant for magic (see Circe).
And then Heracles is left on an island because he's way too optimized for the rest of the party and makes the campaign unfun.
TIL orpheus was an argonaut
Hera, goddess of MARRIAGE: “I like this hero, he’s my favorite.”
Jason: ~disregards his marriage~
Hera: “You had ONE! JOB!”
No wonder Hera always seems to be cranky.
I feel like at that moment Zeus just sat in a chair like Captain America did in Spider-Man Homecoming and went, "So, your chosen hero did something unbelievably stupid."
@@hellocentral5551 I feel like it would be athena saying that if anyone, considering half the heroes of Greek mythology are Zeus's kids
@@Ian-wn5lc Yeah, but I thought most of, if not all of Athena's charges turned out okay, and just figured Zeus fathered enough tragic heroes to root for at least one of them.
@@hellocentral5551 Athena was great. She was also one of the people that picked up after other gods on the regular. Also the only son of Zeus I know that wasn't partially an asshole was Perseus and he's also one of the few smart heroes who decided charging headfirst into combat was stupid when sneaking was an option and when you had a magic head that could turn anything to stone.
“Honey have you been cheating on me?”
“Yes...”
*Murders his children* “Now say sorry”
Gosh I hate it when that happens
Zeus and Hera's Relationship In A Nutshell
Your name takes this comment from funny to god teir.
Wimen, amirite?
@@reaperking2121 g-god teir?
Moral of the story: never discuss divorce/infidelity when your yandere sorceress wife is in ear shot.
Or just don't marry Jason
Nope, the only real moral is "Never go to Greece, and if your in there, Leave as soon as posisble."
Your in danger wether your married or single, truthfull or deceitfull, good or bad, man or woman... very few people have peacefull lifes and thos who do often get target by the Gods Bullshit or by the Heros Bullshit.
@@peterwhite6415 "never go to Greece unless your name is Perseus"
Moral of the story: Go insane in Greece if you can.
Further moral: Always remember those who have contributed to your success. Jason screwed up when he screwed over both of the women who were behind his glory.
Or discuss it _with_ her, rather than behind her back
"Jason compares her to Ariadne helping Theseus." That probably should have been her first red flag...
Theseus could have been one of the Argonauts so I bet if Medea pointed it out he’d be like “He never told me that part, are you sure that happened?”
Red: "...Zeus' girlfriend of the week."
Subtitles: "Zeus' victim of the week."
_wheezes_
It’s not wrong 👀
Considering how Zeus's affairs usually turn out, I'm not surprised😂
0:32 For those looking for the line.
I literally chocked on my laughter
What's the difference?!
Most tragedies in a nutshell: “I’m gonna do this obviously dumb thing, what could go wrong!”
Protagonist: nothing can go wrong!
* Everything goes wrong*
Protagonist: except for that, that went wrong.
Lets piss of the gods!
-Greek hero probably
"Oh no! the consequences of my actions!"
People in fables never read fables themselves smh 🙄✋
Jason (probably): Ha, I have PLOT ARMORRR!!!
Medea: Nope. No you don't.
So out of all the Heroes the only one I can think of that Hera would absolutely adore is Odysseus. He wasn't a bastard born from Zeus which is already a huge starting point. He was intelligent, a family man, and incredibly loyal to his wife. Shunning all the other women that threw themselves at him but he remained faithful to his true love.
Also like the marriage bed made of s living tree thing.
Honestly now that I think of it I'm surprised Hera isn't involved with that whole myth cuz like Penelope's whole thing is that shes trying to reject the suitors and stay faithful to her husband as well.
Honestly im surprised Hera didn't like drag Poseidon away by the ear for continuing to ruin the most healthy monogamous relationship in ancient Greece
Except the part where he had a son with Circe that ended up being the death of him.
@@ariake18That's only some versions of the story.
@@fangsabre her brother Hades & Persephone be like 🙄 (yes yes we know he kidnapped her buuuttT)
@@ariake18 also in these versions Circe often coerces him into sleeping with her while Calypso straight-up bewitches him until the gods tell her to knock it off.
Hera : This one looks fun, hope he doesn’t che-
Jason : *cheats*
Hera : …just fucking kick his ass
Jason: "I know I ruined everything and screwed everyone over, but AVENGE ME!"
Gods: "lolnope"
Hera: “I gave you a hot, smart, powerful wife and you cheated on her. As queen of the gods and your patron goddess, I’m gonna go with a “No” on this one.”
@@Grim_Sister I like to imagine that after he died Hera made a special trip to the underworld to explain in excruciating detail how much he fucked up
@@hellothere702
Hades: Sis, pretty rare to see you down here. Knowing you guys, you're not just here to see me and Persie, are you? (sigh) What did our brother do now?
Hera: No, he's clean...this time. But I do have some beef with someone here. I don't suppose, out of all the shades who end up down here everyday, you'd know a "Jason".
Hades: Jason, lessee....ah, yeah him. He probably deserves whatever you wanna do to him, but please don't make a mess.
Hera: Oh don't worry, I just wanna rub it in his face how much he screwed the pooch by wanting to screw some girl that's not the one I basically gift wrapped to him.
(Hera finds Jason's shade and she basically does the "Think, Jason, Think!" routine on him)
"Could it be you're craving my McNuggies?" Why is this so funny?
YEah it's beyond cursed
I sent a screencap of that moment to my boyfriend in an attempt to confuse him. The attempt was successful.
Lolllll
Wait what? What’s the time stamp ? lol
Because we are all shitposting meme lords.
the "Get wrecked boat boy" had me absolutely wheezing
“Jason compares Medea to Ariadne helping Theseus.”
Me, knowing the context behind that bullshit:
*He’s leaving her in three, two, one-*
Jason: "So how much murder will this involve?"
Medea: "Yes."
I thought that said Japan for a second.
That like 90 % of D&D (or any TTRPG) plan.
@@mikaelste-marie1275 UNLEASH THE MURDER HOBOS!!!
"The plan is murder"
Every D&D game i ever played.
If you think about it, if one doesn't consider the Argo a home, then Jason and the Argonauts might be one of the earliest tellings of a DnD murderhobo story filled with failed skill rolls at the worst times.
i once launched a magic missile at a poor goblin who was just armed with bow and arrow, i decimated the poor thing
Every game I started... when I have the opinion
@@joshuakim5240 imagine being a bunch of low tier trash classes and betraying the only wizard on the team.
@יובל רוט Or leaving behind easily your most competent martial party member
Gotta love the fact that despite Medea's murderiness, she never murdered Jason
She wanted him to suffer
Living to see the hell that you spawn is a worse torture than death
That's because the writer of this myth was presenting it to an all male audience. Ancient Greek men weren't very keen on the idea of justified mariticide because many of them were abusive to their wives, themselves.
Besides condemning someone to self-torture is much better than killing them.
These two stories sound great.
Story 1: Medea is a hero because she is a powerful sorceress who is will to kill people to achieve her goals.
Story 2: Medea is an anti-hero or villain because she is a powerful sorceress who is will to kill people to achieve her goals.
The story of Jason and Medea is basically just “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
Funny how it works for both people huh
a lot of Greek stuff is like this
Option #2 please!
@@ecurewitz Option #2: you live happy ever after ... as King and Queen of the Underworld. And terrifyingly dispose anyone who even so much tries to seduce your beloved
@@Darkman-ug2he And why didn't Jason think of that. He's such a dumbass
“The King and the Princess are dead and they’re blaming you and kids!”
“Ooh, spill the tea! Did she suffer? Tell me she suffered.”
I laughed for like a full minute 😅
Ewhat kind of poison do you think she used to cover the clothing?
@@TheSUGA1202 Maybe concentrated sulphuric acid ? The stuff burns, and touching it will definitely harm someone
*boom*
@@TheSUGA1202 hydra blood, maybe (─.─||
I've watched ENTIRELY too much of the stuff by Project Mouthwash and their affiliates (Nat19, Let Them Play Games, Something Witty, etc.) because I totally heard that line in UBW Abridged Caster's voice.
Jason kept trying to prove how amazing he was, and how much he doesn't need Medea, but he literally has one myth that you can't tell without her. Meanwhile, his wife that he "didn't need" has multiple and her story can be told without him
I love the idea of a Jason and the Argonauts movie that after it ditches Heracles, periodically cuts back to him for like 5-10 seconds at a time for a running cutaway gag
Heracles: "OK so last they saw them they were here, and I'm here... God this gonna take so long..."
This story is basically "Murder is not the answer. Murder is the question, and the answer is yes"
It's also, cheating men must die.
@@rezafebriansyah8620 I'd say it's more cheating men must suffer, if medea had just wanted to kill Jason he would have died. But ruining his life "albeit by murdering her own children" was way more satisfying
@@sadowphoenix01 Then again, he died, miserably, in the end. And Medea, has the last laugh.
@@rezafebriansyah8620 no arguments on that
@@rezafebriansyah8620 Then again, this does make me think of the Oresteia. If Medea let the kids live, they could have killed her later.
I do not condone murdering your kids but we know how they would have gotten away with matricide.
"It's murder, the plan is murder" "Boinking in progress" "We could make a religion out of this"
Oh, red, you're the reason I'm so into mythology
"get wrecked, boat boy"
@@zealotoftheorchard9853 that one was the best ngl
@@gamerin123d6 i think the murder one was funnier
Isn't she though? :)
Where is the we could make a religion out of this?
I love the subtle nod to the characters with lineage from Helios. Kirke’s, Medea’s, and The king of Colchis all have yellow eyes
So let me get this straight...
Jason's evil uncle kills his father and presumably every male related to him, and takes the throne.
Yet somehow...
Jason killing his evil uncle to take back the throne disqualifies him?
Good to know I’m not the only one confused by that
Jason: "I'll set the Furies on you!"
Medea: "I'm a woman scorned. I outrank them."
I read this as furries and was stricken with horror for a moment before rereading it
That is an excellent pun, and i thank you for it
@@laurenkirby97 ok, so it wasn't just me
Once Jason broke his vows to her Maeda becomes like a fury; taking divine vengeance in Hera's name.
@@laurenkirby97 SAME 😭😭😭
Would love a running gag of: "Murder. The solution is murder"
This was so catchy, so immediately, that it feels like it's always been there. I hope that it does become a running gag.
Kratos: I mean, yeah.
@AESON NG HCI I understood that reference.
@AESON NG HCI You really are hopeless, Kotomine-kun
@TK Wallace I was thinking "I have a plan" when hot and "Murder" when depleted of the ever-precious focus juice.
The poetic irony of Jason being killed by the argo is so delicious.
Medea actually should have been in very big trouble for killing her kids, as kin-slaying was one of the crimes that would call down the Furies and their inescapable torment on your head. Unless Athena's whole, "killing your mother isn't kin-slaying because the woman is just the field the seed is planted in" bullshit applies here, too.
I mean, considering that *all* the murder she did was basically pre-approved and endorsed by the gods already, that’s probably why she got a pass.
It's possibly due to Hera's guilt of forcing her to fall in love with Jason. She didn't have any feelings until Hera put those on her. So it's basically Hera indirectly killing those kids
That's true but a good theory would be that, that could only apply to demigods and humans because...you know human blood. Medea on the other hand is not human at all, her father is the son of the titan of the sun, helios and an oceanid while her mother Idyia is also an oceanid which are daughters of the titan of the ocean. Not to mention she is a priestess of Hecate a powerful titan with ties to the sky, ocean, and undersorld.
I mean she literally has connections at the highest ( and lowest) places
Circe can cleanse her of the guilt for murdering family. Again.
@@mariannegracebendita1650Nice thing to know.
Jason: surely my patron God Hera, the goddess of marriage, will side with me when I insist on cheating on my wife.
Hera: Dude Zeus has been cheating on me for centuries, it's time for some CATHARSIS!
Danny Hera do be using their marriage as an outlet to her own misery and we’re lowkey here for it
Jason: Watches his life crumbling around him
Chorus: *G E T W R E C K E D B O A T B O Y*
Jason, one of the few Greek "heroes" whose punishment in Dante's Inferno was TOTALLY warranted.
@@WraythSkitzofrenik what would his punishment be?
@@pogfection787 He ended up in the first chasm of the malebolge being chased by demons with whips and flogs, called a pimp and a seducer.
@@pogfection787 He was in the Malebolge, the Eighth Circle, reserved for those guilty of fraud. Specifically, he was found in the First Bolgia, in which "panderers and seducers" are forced to march forever while demons scourge them. This is justified by him not only seducing and using Medea, but also doing the same to Queen Hypsipyle of Lemnos before her.
Longfellow's translation:
And the good Master, without my inquiring,
Said to me: "See that tall one who is coming,
And for his pain seems not to shed a tear;
Still what a royal aspect he retains!
That Jason is, who by his heart and cunning
The Colchians of the Ram made destitute.
He by the isle of Lemnos passed along
After the daring women pitiless
Had unto death devoted all their males.
There with his tokens and with ornate words
Did he deceive Hypsipyle, the maiden
Who first, herself, had all the rest deceived.
There did he leave her pregnant and forlorn;
Such sin unto such punishment condemns him,
And also for Medea is vengeance done.
With him go those who in such wise deceive;
And this sufficient be of the first valley
To know, and those that in its jaws it holds."
@@WraythSkitzofrenik he didn’t put Jason in hell because he was a deceiver because he deceived Medea. He put him in hell like allot of other greek heroes because he was greek. For some reason Dante had a real fetish for hating greeks and their notable heroes. One reason is because he was Italian and “ roman excellence” or whatever. Let’s not forget this is the man who made an entire epic story about his imaginary hell, purgatory, and heaven just so he could find a women who he might as well as have met once. And then loves her until he dies. Not exactly the best judge of character here. Great fiction writing but not great character.
Considering Jason says that he should have taken her being willing to kill her family as a red flag, Medea should have seen him comparing her to Ariadne, a girl who also got ditched by the man she helped as a red flag.
Also Jason your patron goddess is the goddess of marriage and family, how did you not see you abandoning your wife and children for another woman going badly!
I like how Heracles' role in the Argonautica is like the guy in the Bachelor party who gets lost and you don't see him until the end of the night
Medea: "Then I give him his ship back... right on top of him."
Chorus: "He had it coming! He had it coming! He only had himself to blame. If you'd have been there, if you'd have seen it, I betcha you would have done the same!"
Now I want a cover of this with some of the wronged women in Greek mythology. We got Medea, Ariadne, and Helen so far. I vote Penelope for Hunyak (the one woman who didn't murder her husband).
@@animeotaku307 Can’t forget Clytemnestra
@@josephheiskell3493 I guess it depends on what her thoughts are. She could also be pissed that Orpheus didn’t follow the one rule given to him.
@@animeotaku307 Oh! She's the POP one!
@@animeotaku307 If you want a wronged woman, you really cannot (and I mean seriously, try to find someone who has it worse) go past Cassandra.
"And then caught fire. That's a hell of a poison"
Me taking notes for my next D&D session.
If you want extra spice for your poison, the servants initially think Glauke is being possessed by Pan and they're happy because the ecstasy of Pan is a good thing I think? Then when she sets on fire they are all suddenly horrified.
Also there's a vivid description of the death of Creon (Glauke's dad) which Red completely glosses over because it's nasty. He gets stuck to her and basically tears himself apart trying to pull himself off.
Medea's Murder Marinade: For when you want a poison that burns in more ways than one.
Poison of Vehement Flammability
Remember that you can also say that refined basilisk blood can be used as poison that turns people into stone
@TK Wallace isn't that just napalm?
4:13 a curious fact: Jason have another “Ariadne”, Hypsipyle, the literal granddaughter of Ariadne. Queen of Lemnos, Jason left her pregnant with twins and with promises of come back. Hypsipyle never seen him again because he dies before that
After watching several times, I realized that only Medea got the love arrow, but not Jason. I don't know if the mythos states that it works with one person getting the love arrow or both, but I think that entire tragedy could've been averted if Hera had just told Eros to hit Jason as well. Never know with Ancient Greece and all 🤷♀️
Hera: Goddess of Marriage
Jason: Cheats
Hera: Angery
Also Hera: Goddess of motherhood
Medea: KILLS HER KIDS
Hera: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that."
To be fair, Hera tried to kill her husbands kids all the time.
@@ArielEveMachado but also to be fair those aren't her own kids.
@@The_Evening_Sun Hephaestus: Am I a joke to you
@@zashgekido5616
T̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶w̶a̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶B̶a̶ ̶S̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶S̶e̶
There is No Hephaestus in Olympus
@@zashgekido5616 Whoops yeah forgot about him.
Jason: "what could possibly go wrong"
Everyone: literally everything
Tragedies
benny hill theme music starts playing
Rule breaker.
Jason is essentially Bubsy.
If I were Medea, I would’ve taken the kids with me. Wanting to get even with Jason is justifiable, but not at the price of their innocent kids.
@{ Gacha_Spade } Oh?
@@firemarioproductions2003 apparently the Corinthians complained to Euripides about how in a version of the play the Corinthians killed then children and he changed it
@@adeleaslan8182 Wait what?
@@firemarioproductions2003 In the original version of the play, Jason and Medea’s children were killed by an angry mob of Corinthians after the princess Glauce died. But so many people complained about that ending to Euripides (the author of the play) that he changed it to Medea killing her own children herself.
Medea: “Alright Medea, remember to play it cool when you see Jason. You don’t want to look desperate!”
Jason: “So Medea, can I ask a fav-“
Medea: “I’LL DO IT!”
Jason, at the end of the play: "Oh no, being an arsehole to a powerful sorceress, who's the granddaughter of the sun Titan and abandoned everything to constantly save my arse, came back to bite me!"
She is also the nice of Circe, another powerful sorceress.
@@louparis1909 yeah...also jason is like one of the very few heroes who does not have some direct divine blood connection. this is very much a case of jason being more than a little screwed in this kind of situation. like seriously, he should have just been happy with medea and maybe go see circe again to try and get that whole accessory to crime thing clensed. but Nope. jason you absolute dingus.
"arse" you german or something?
Jason: Oh no! Consequences to my actions! My only weakness!
@@theartisthasarrived That's British though.
You could honestly say that Medea was acting exactly like Hera. Jason cheats on her just as Zeus has cheated on Hera multiple times. Despite having the power to kill him, Medea chooses to instead kill his fiancé and his kids so that he can experience the same pain as her. Again, this method is used by Hera all the time. You could go even further and say that Medea betraying her father for Jason so that he can become king is similar to Hera betraying Cronos so that Zeus can become king of the gods. Even Medea managing to get away with murdering Jason’s girlfriend and kids is exactly like Hera. Once more, Hera ends up saving Medea and punishing Jason. I don’t know what’s more ironic, Jason being punished the exact same way Zeus is or Hera creating a couple who has the exact same relationship as her and Zeus. Either way, Red you made me want to read this story.
No wonder she retained Hera's favor after child murder.
So Hera has a type.
Hera didn't betrayed Cronus because she wanted to marry Zeus but to overthrew him and his tyranny ( because he ate his own children to protect his throne).
It was Zeus who tricked Hera to marry him. Hera initially didn't wanted to marry Zeus at all.
@@agniswar3 Feel like a closer equivalent would perhaps be Metis, who helped Zeus overthrow Cronus, despite not being in danger of being killed by Cronus, only to eventually be betrayed be Zeus (her son would continue the trend of ruling gods being overthrown by the progeny)
@@luminaravelms4701 Instead, Athena came of this union, who joined her half siblings in the rank of Zeus' wretched blood which had already been Cronus' wretched blood. She could have become a true Goddess of Wisdom like her mother, but she instead remained her father's violent little schemer.
I loved this video so much! Medea's long been my favorite myth lady for reasons even I couldn't nail down, given that I'd only encountered her in vague summary and later Euripides. It's strange and almost funny to realize that, apparently, she was in the right for most of things: obeyed the gods, kept her oaths, did what she had to (can't condone the childmurder deal but the play.. does give proper context decently at least. Oof though). Being pulled out of there by the literal sun chariot itself is ABSOLUTE proof that the gods still favored her more than anyone else in that story.
Also great job to Jason for forgetting that she's literally priestess AND granddaughter of Helios (who is son of a primordial TITAN, hello), therefore niece to other phenomenal sorceress Circe, and also a princess in her own right even if she isn't a Greek princess. Sir, she had WAY more to offer you than unlucky Glaucis.
When I was a kid and didn't get the nuances, I felt bad for him getting bonked by his own boat. Now? He deserved it.
Theia's bloodline produced a surprising number of powerful witches: Circe, Pasiphea, Aeetes, Medea. You'd think Jadon would have known better than deceiving people with that kind of lineage and patronage (Hecate). By divinity rank alone, her patron deity outrank his.
I genuinely need a sound bite of Red saying "Ooo spill the tea! Did she suffer? Tell me she suffered!" Cause that delivery is perfect and also a mood.
"Zeus's girlfriend of the week" shouldn't be as funny as it is
More like “girlfriend of the hour“
Week? Do you mean hour?
I also love how the subtitles say “Zeus’s victim of the week”.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts You mean minute?
More like "Zeus' rape victim", really
Also the “Sorry, Jason, looks like the Olympians love to see a girl boss winning.” Cracked me up
Time stamp?!
@@whoopsiedoodle.26 14:37
@@clouddd8053 thx
I learned a few days ago that Medea was the only woman that Zeus popped a boner for, but didn't force himself onto her after she refused him not wanting to incur Hera's wrath. Because of that, Hera offered to make her children immortal.
I'm really pleased to learn more about Medea. She's a great character. Along with Circe, one of my favourite ladies.
Zeus: I’ve never seen you this invested in a hero
Hera: He’s not your kid, di-
Jason: **cheats on Medea**
Hera: WHO JINXED IT/
Zeus: You sure?
Pffft hahaha
Hades:”Sorry Hera, but this is on you.”
Mythologically, if someone is fucking with Hera and it's NOT Zeus, the usual suspects would be Aphrodite and/or Discord...and I could totally see Aphrodite shipping Jason and Glauce over Medea, and setting the two up while Discord just laughs and laughs and laughs in the background, the entire time.
Medea isn't the type of hero that Aphrodite goes for...she's too clever and strong-willed, like Psyche...Medea is more Athena's cup of tea, being a strategic planner, highly skilled in various arts, and passing her trials through metis (cunning/brilliance/mental strength) like Odysseus.
Kind of little wonder then, that Euripedes has Medea find shelter in Athens, Athena's patron-city, at the end of the play (besides the fact that Euripedes had almost all of his main characters find shelter in Athens after their tragedies, like Heracles, because Euripedes was an Athenian playing to an Athenian audience and used the other citystates and Greek kingdoms as allegories for socio-political issues going on in Athens, like Star Trek uses aliens and planets-of-the-week for tackling real issues and events).
@@sklaWlivE oooh interesting!
Also, I can see it now
Hera and Zeus both raging, Aphrodite wondering how it all ended so badly and Eris (goddess of discord) just laughing her head off in the background-
"How much murder could you possibly do in a day"
-" *good question.* "
Weird austrian man with weird moustache : *a lot*
@@billylauwda9178 well, yeah, but what about just personally?
@@comradewindowsill4253 well i cant tell you that
@@billylauwda9178 oh, I suppose I was unclear, I meant, how much murder can you possibly do in a day, without any outside help
@@comradewindowsill4253 well, i cant tell you that too.
"The first half of her life is an epic, the second half is a tragedy."
The excessively long subtitle to my autobiography "Unfortunate Half-Choices" has finally been found.
I’ve watched this video at least five times, and this is the first time I’ve noticed that right before Glouki catches fire, she starts smoking and looking a bit ill. I love this channel so much
I died when Pelias literally pulled out a fucking uno reverse card.
You know when I first saw this, I had a chuckle, and then considered how I was almost 100% sure to be let down in the near future due to the mass media's over usage of the word “literally”, making it lose meaning, and giving people false hope, but then it *actually happened*, so all I can do now is tip my hat, and apologize for doubting you.
@@normalpeoplelikeme You needn't apologize, your tale is just about the best follow up I could imagine for this.
Jason: "The gods will damn you, Medea!"
The Gods: "No we won't. Fuck him up, queen."
Medea: "Lol"
Said to Medea, granddaughter of the sun, in a flying chariot sent by the gods, exiting in a literal Deus ex machina. Medea who is also a priestess of Hecate. That Medea will be punished by the gods.
The gods: After looking over the case files, you sir Jason. Are beyond our help. This whole shebang because you cheated on her first.
Just pushes the fact:
Gods are shitty, to another level.
The chorus: ♪ You f**ked up, boat boy♪ ♪3, 2, 1♪
*Cue a Tim Burton Oompa Loompa song*
@@ConcernedAboutCrows Yeeeeaaa Jason really really underestimated his own importance in this situation.
I can imagine Jason and Hercules talking after it all goes down. 'Yeah, so I decided to marry King Creon's daughter and both she and my kids died because of what I did','Oh wow, me too. The wrath of Hera is the worst','Wait, you betrayed Hera too by breaking your marriage oaths?','No, I'm just a son of Zeus thus Hera hates me... Wait, are you telling me that you WILLINGLY decided to piss Hera off','Um...'
"He compares her to Ariadne helping Theseus through the maze" yeah you know the girl who got abandoned on an island by said guy she helped. Greek women married to Greek heroes just can't win.
Unsurprising when you learn about the Greeks' views on women in general
@@ethanstyant9704 unfortunately, yeeaahh.
"Murder, the plan is murder" "We can make a religion out of this" "No, don't"
This has actually been one of the most fascinating stories I've watched, it feels really modern and by how widespread misogynistic the ancient world was it's really cool to see that the tragedy of Medea isn't because she ends up in tragedy but due to the actions of a dipshit. Never cheat on anyone, but specially on your touched by the gods sorceress wife. There's screwing up hard and then there's Jason. Don't be Jason.
Exactly! This is why Euripedes is often called an early feminist writer. This play is aggressively modern and the text itself dissects Medea's status as a foreign woman and what that means. Women's lack of personal power is a theme, which Medea turns on its head with her sorcery. The chorus serves as the "public" character and Medea convinces them she's sympathetic. It forces the audience to address the plight of women, which in ancient Greece was Not Great.
''There's screwing up hard and then there's Jason. Don't be Jason.''
I will be using this from now on, whenever it is appropriate.
Oof!
(Somebody somewhere regrets his username.)
Euripedes isn't the only Greek playwright who dabbled in feminist themes. Sophocles' "Antigone" could be looked throught the lense of feminism too!
Yeah, don't be Jason. Be like Percy! He got all that he wanted in life, and helped those who needed it, and all he had to do was kill some monsters. Remember kids, killing people is bad, but killing monsters is good!
“Hey your husband wants to marry this other woman so that he can pursue his dreams of power so we’re just gonna exile you before you can do anything about it” WHAT
Tbf, "because when you do something about it it always involves murdering family members, and as the father of the new wife I think I see where this is going".
With how greek stories go and medea's pre existing history of murder, that was probably the smartest decision the king had ever made. Only to be followed by the worst decision the king ever made, giving her time.
@@orlando780 I would argue the worst decision he made was agreeing to let Jason marry his daughter, knowing full well that Jason was married to a woman who had previously demonstrated just how far she'll go in the name of a cause.
Can I just pause and talk about how well you drew and narrated this. The art is incredible! The shading on that frame where Jason and Medea stand in front of the moon is immaculate, and I love that both of them have hair that is so unique and immediately recognizable from just short descriptions. I especially love Medea’s long curls, it looks like you really spent a lot of time getting them just right. Their outfits suit them well, and the whole style is just so beautiful and interesting. The narration is perfect too, summarizing such a beautiful and tragic story so well. I also love that you kind of frame Medea as the protagonist rather than Jason, because it plays with the audience’s perceptions of good and evil. Like, even though Jason is originally the protagonist in most tellings of this particular legend, he does such morally reprehensible shit and gets away with it because he’s the hero. Plot armor and all that. Medea on the other hand is a far more complex and fascinating character who really just wanted her happily ever after with her family. Instead, she becomes the evil sorceress to Jason’s hero hubris and idiocy. It’s a really compelling way to make this story work, and I really appreciate this video. Thank you Red.
I've sort of co-opted this story for one of my D&D characters, a literal barbarian named Eris who's smitten by a devilishly handsome rogue, the latter wanting nothing more than great wealth and power and uses Eris' murder muscles to get him what he wants. He later finds a different woman who he promises to marry even though he made the same promise to Eris and had a kid with her.
The campaign ended, surprisingly, with this other woman backstabbing the rogue, explaining that she was using him and disposing of him when she was finished, and Eris and the kid living somewhat gaily ever after.
Jason married another woman while married: What can go wrong!?
Hera the Goddess of Marriage: You have no idea what’s coming to you.
"Honey, you got a BIG storm comin'."
Plus Zeus punishes oathbreakers, making Jason the second thing in the Greek Mythos to make Hera and Zeus agree on something. The first thing was that they needed to kill their dick of a dad
Fuck around and find out as per Zeus’s motto
Metaphorically spitting in the face of your Patron god who has been showering you in gifts.
Not a great plan.
@@supreme_king_obama1158, correction, Jason's the third: second is that Hestia and Hades are going to be the only ones with some semblance of sanity. Not even the gods could have been that chaotic in by their own doing without some form of planning.
Jason being crushed under the falling prow of the rotting Argo is all the funnier when you remember the figurehead on the prow of the Argo WAS AN IMAGE OF HERA. Hera was so miffed at Jason she DROPPED A STATUE OF HERSELF ON HIM. Given how anal the greek pantheon are about desecration and destruction of their images, he had to have managed some SERIOUS Hera-rage for that to happen!
And, for the record, before anyone points it out, this is from a more hollywoodized version of the legend where the figurehead of the Argo was on the back... along with its prow.
I prefer to think of it as being this version because the thought of a guy who pissed of Hera to such an extreme degree being squished to death under a big wooden statue of Hera is too ironically hilarious.
This is the version of the story I heard way back in the day, and it's still the one I cling to. It's just too poetic justice that he literally got squished by Hera she was so DONE with him after he screwed over his wife
I heard that it might not have been the prow, but the magically enchanted-by-Hera mast that used to be a guiding voice in the trip for the Golden fleece. Either way he got crushed by the most substantial parts of the boat that was decorated by Hera.
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Zeus: (readies lightning)
Hera: "Nonono, honey... I got something better. Besides, you get to smite people all the time. Let me have a turn."
(Hera drops the chunk of the Argo on Jason. Zeus stares a moment, thinks, and then they both just start laughing hysterically.)
Zeus: "You know, I might get with other ladies, but THIS is why I married YOU."
@@GuukanKitsune dude 😅😂🤣💀
Huh. I wonder if that’s why Rick Riordian had Annabeth get a statue of Hera dropped on her.
The way the poison fire stuff at 11:06 is depicted is really scary and really cool. Great art and great vid!
I think a lot of people don't see the point of the story, Medea and Jason are both bad, there is no hero here. the point of the story is watch out how far revenge will take you. As Medea is rightfully weeping how Jason betrayed her love she then does the very same thing to her children. yeah she hurt while doing it but that doesn't stop the irony of her decisions. shes a horrible person and so is Jason, both are in the wrong the only difference is Jason gets punished.
In the play, Medea has a line to Jason about killing her kids, saying "I hate you more than I love them" and when I tell you I was SHOOK-
That instantly reminded me of Mai saying to Azula "I love him more than I fear you" in Avatar. Very different situations, but both are amazing quotes.
@@witchshairlichen Kind of the exact opposite sentiment
@@jeffbenton6183 Yeah I know, it still reminded me of it. Like weighing how much you fear or hate one person versus how much you love another.
I mean mother’s love is lauded as the strongest type of love and yet how much hate do you need to create to overcome it?
I mean, girl was literally commanded by the god's to love this guy and risked everything to help him, only for him to betray her trust and break every promise he'd ever made to anyone/any deity. While I don't condone child murder, I can see how someone would be driven to murder just to spite someone. Because sometimes living with the consequences of your actions is worse than dying to atone for them.
“He wants to ask the oracle why his wiener doesn’t work” I feel like this needs more context...
listen, sometimes you just can't have kids and gotta enlist the help of your powerful sorceress friend to help out, you know (and also offer her sanctuary before you even figure out her plan is killing the royal family and also her children)
It's a metaphor you see
@@TH-is8cf ah yes, you put the murderess IN your royal court but you don't let her kill you (unless)
There is no other context. He was just impotent. (In some tellings Medea gets offered sanctuary in Athens only after she fixes that for him so its slightly more plot relevant)
Naw, pretty sure this is self explanatory. In a world where Viagra hasn't been invented yet, making a call directly to the gods is the next best solution to erectile dysfunction.
Moral of the story: don't mess with Hera.
No. Seriously.
Do. 👏
Not. 👏
F*ck. 👏
With. 👏
Hera.👏
PREACH!!
I love how Jason compared Medea helping him to Ariadne helping Theseus. Good foreshadowing.
The chorus singing “Get wrecked, boat boy” had me laughing in tears.
Oh, hello! What a pleasant surprise to see you here.
Fancy seeing you here
Wait when does that happen?
@@celtofcanaanesurix2245 12:08
Up there in the pantheon of Powerful Boy Comebacks, alongside “Wouldn’t you like to know, weather boy”