My daughter was 2 when this happened. I remember watching the news, holding her tight and crying. The fact that when she went to school, I didn't have to buy a bullet proof backpack, she never had to do shooter drills, helped me sleep better than any gun would. The freedom from something is more important than the freedom to do something.
@@NealUKReactions I think you should react to this because the Czechs have the second amendment to have the right to bear arms. However it was implemented into their constitution in 2021. Three years ago. Gun laws in Czech Republic vs. US
@@NealUKReactions you know when he says we were on our own she was my only child, A year before his wife di£d of c@ncer , Then a year later he lost his only daughter, R i. P. To all those little angels, And the monster that did it can rot in hell
I lived in Blackford at the time which is the next town to the shooting. We got the news about the shooting less than an hour after it happened. We packed up our things and waited in the classroom with our teacher as our Headmistress (who had children at Dunblane school) left to get her kids. Then when the parents of the children who needed picked up arrived those kids went home and the school was locked up and our teachers escorted us all home in a huge line before going home themselves. The school was shut for almost a month for security updates. The parents were angry, the local SMP’s were angry and Perth and Kinross Council were adamant this would never happen in their constituency again. Police Tayside was one of the first in the Met to make gun ownership harder to obtain and Perthshire remains to this day the hardest area to get a gun license in..
It's sad to see the aftermath of these mass shootings, I hope that the U.S. will get things under control in the future, being 64 I very much doubt that it will be in my lifetime.
Yes sadly I feel the guns are far more important than school children or anyone’s lives. Like in Australia, a mass shooting in Tasmania where too many innocent children and adults were shot by a young man. That was enough to have gun control. Looks like more mass or singular shootings will never change in America. As for a law written so man years ago will never change. Other laws amendments have been changed, but not the gun laws. Why? I have absolutely no idea. A metal object is far more important than their own families having the right to live.
America seems to breed anarchy, I can't see it changing. I believe they have tried to find ways to make them less aggressive, like putting hormones in the paint on children's toys after WW2 but the government realized they make more money of the anarchy 😔
The gun law changes after Dunblane were a grassroots led protest looking to tighten up the laws at a time the government were considering relaxing them. Though thankfully and heartbreakingly Dunblane is the only school shooting to have occurred in Great Britain, it isn’t the only mass shooting to have an impact on our gun laws. The other one was Hungerford in the 80’s. He doesn’t speak about it too often (likely in part because he was a young child that didn’t have a clue what was going on at the time) but tennis player Andy Murray (who both won Wimbledon and Olympic medals) and his tennis player brother were both in the school that morning, with Andy’s class being on the way to the gym where those poor children and their teacher and assistants were shot at, when they were pulled into the safety of another room en route, as the alarm had just been raised.
Lol, no it wasn't. It was the Government stripping vital rights from the populace and using a minority of concerned parents as the excuse to do it. Lo and behold, they went after freedom of speech shortly after they took away our right to bear arms.
I’m from Scotland not far from Dunblane and i remember that day like it was yesterday. I admire Doctor North because he started the snowdrop appeal. His only daughter Sophie was one on the ones killed she was only 5 years old like the rest of the class and their teacher. The shooter was an adult called Thomas Hamilton and he ran a boys club out of Dunblane primary school. The school started to get complaints about him touching the boys inappropriately but he was never charged by police. The school banned him from running his boys club so he decided to get his own back on the school by murdering 15 tiny 5 year olds and their teacher Gwen in gym class. Mick North’s wife had died of cancer so he moved to Scotland after promising his wife he’d keep Sophie safe then this happened. I think it will always happen in the U.S. because they still think it’s the wild west days where people needed guns etc. Tuning in from the west of Scotland, UK. Tennis player Andy Murray went to that school and he was in his own class and he says it still affects him today. Take care and stay safe 😘🏴
Even airguns are banned in Scotland without a licence. There was an amnesty where those who owned such weapons could hand them in to the Police. Owning one without a licence can carry a 2 year prison sentence.
I'm never going to forget seeing the Dunblane victims' photos on the front cover of the newspaper. We all knew we could mot let other children die that way.
There was a mass shooting in Hungerford before Dunblane.......things HAD to change. It's a lot more difficult to get those laws passed in America because the right to bear arms is entrenched in your Constitution so an American can always refuse because it's their right. It's lovely to see that you feel the hurt of loss due to these weapons in the hands of wrong-uns. Great video Neal.
I'm not going to go on a typical anti American rant with regards to gun ownership as I understand the arguments for firearms in your country, but It's worth remembering that a similar situation (The Port Arthur Massacre) also happened in Australia, with the same restrictions successfully being put in place. In both cases of Dunblane massacre and the Port Arthur massacre, there hasn't been any mass school shootings since in the respective countries. Gun restrictions work, regardless of the country. In Britain everyone still has the freedom to own a gun, subject to police checks and an interview. In the countryside, it's safe to say that the majority of our farmers own a shotgun or rifle for grouse shooting or animal control. We can also purchase hand guns for use in registered gun ranges (should we feel the need to pop a few shots off for fun). The big difference is that here in the UK we don't walk around with a constant fear of being shot. Knowing the regular police don't have guns also makes us feel safer (ironically). With regards to home protection, we just ensure we have decent locks on our doors and windows. Of course we have a level of knife crime (which is still lower than the US), but it's easier to run away from a knife than a gun. The thought of schools in the US having regular active shooter drills is baffling to us, and the idea of kids being brought up with a fear of being shot at a young age is just baffling. What Americans need to look at is who's perpetuating the "right to bear arms" ideology, which is the N.R.A. The money. If you want to see where corruption lies in society, always follow the money. The USA is still a great country, but as outsiders we watch your continuous tragic school shootings continue on and on without change, and it makes us sad.
I had started school in 95. The follwing year after the Dunblane shooting we left on the friday and by the monday all the doors to gain access to the school had changed. You needed buzzed through. From memory the door was around half a foot thick.
I think the current world wide political mess will not be the time to ask Americans to abandon their right to bear arms. But there must be a compromise to stop unstable young men from getting hold of such devastating weapons.
While it’s true what happened at Dunblane did change UK gun laws I think it was something that was relatively easy for the government to do as guns have never been part of most peoples lives in the UK. The vast majority of people in he Uk don’t own a gun and have no desire to own one. I think the problem in the US is that gun ownership is so much part of the culture of the US any attempt to restrict gun ownership is a major political issue.
This is something that has always confused me. For a country fighting so hard to remove rights for legal abortions. America doesn't seem to care for the child when they hit school years. No child should be taught weekly how to hide from gunmen. No child should be sat completing exams, wondering if there will be a shooter that day. No child should be going to the cinema to watch the latest Disney film, wondering if they will leave alive. Protect the children and let women decide if they want to bring an innocent into this cruel, evil, selfish world. Also, guns are war weapons. Should they not be used as intended. For wars only?
UK gun laws are very strict - you have to prove a need to have that weapon as well as secure storage and the police can check at any time. I live amongst farms and most of my neighbours have shotguns for farm pests. Weapons have to be in secure cabinets with the action stored separately as well as the ammunition separate again. I used to be in charge of a cadet armoury and the regulations were the same, including for transport, and no one person could open the armoury as there were two keys and two keyholders. Even on military ranges, you have to account for every round and swear to the range officer that you have no spent cartridges in your possession. After the death of one child in Glasgow, the Scottish Government petitioned the UK Government for years to be allowed to licence air weapons. Eventually, the power to do so was temporarily transferred for a law to be passed enabling air weapons to be subject to licencing in Scotland. One child's death was one too many.
Yes, Britain introduced stricter gun laws after Dunblane, but even before that Britain had fewer shootings than America. There are many different factors as to why Britain and America are so different when it comes to shootings. The two most common problems are lack of Education and the media always scaring people by inflating the severity of news stories. If you ask people in America why they have guns they always say for protection. When in fact it has more to do with them feeling tough. If a person can kill another person with their hands or with something as simple as a pencil, why would they need a gun?
Neal, John Oliver did a really good 3 part story on Australia’s changes to gun laws, too. You would appreciate it. Also, check out “Australia’s Dangerous Animals” by the Van Vuuren bros.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. I think Einstein said it as in doing the exact same experiment and expecting a different outcome in your findings.
I am certainly no expert in the subject of guns or gun ownership, Neal, but from my understanding of the Dunblane massacre in 1996 in Scotland, because of the Snowdrop Appeal organised by the parents of those 15_five_year_old boys and girls, and 1_six_year_old boy, _and_ their teacher, who had been shot multiple times as she tried to save two nearest to her of the girls of her class, by a scoutmaster who was already allegedly had s.abused boys in his scout group, but who had licenced guns and ammunition. He had been removed from his scout group and held a severe grudge against the authorities. Why he killed those 16 very young school children was known only to him, but after he had shot them, and their teacher and having shot at others outside, he then shot himself. British people were shocked, horrified and distraught to learn of the heinous act by that man and petitioned the government to pass the necessary laws to prevent it from happening again. There have been two other mass shootings in Britain. One in a town called Whitehaven, in the north west county of Cumbria, and one in a town called Hungerford, in (I think) the county of Bedfordshire (please correct me if I'm mistaken in any if these comments). There was also a case where a man shot and killed his wife, daughter/s and some animals on his estate, and he then shit himself too...but I dont know where that was. Plus, there was the case of the White House killings, whereby the adopted son of a couple - Jeremy Bamber - killed those two people, and his sister and her two young twin sons, but blamed _her_ for the shootings saying he was not at home at the time. He was arrested, tried and found guilty of all four killings and sent to prison. All these events are easily found on News videos / documentaries on YT, plus the Jeremy Bamber case was made into a film about it and shown on Netfix (UK).
I believe that gun control is not entirely down to “laws” as important as these are, but down to cultural norms. Living in South East England guns are never talked about (except when the News has an item about yet another mass shooting of children at a US school), I personally do not know of anyone who has a gun, they are quite simply not part of our lives. Passing laws anti gun legislation is easy (although the US seems to even find this impossible) but changing culture will be the difficult issue. As this video states, the second Amendment to the constitution is totally misinterpreted and was never intended to allow 16 year olds to have AK47s. It was to do with the general mistrust at that time of countries having “professional standing armies” not just in the US but other countries around the world. The belief was that having a militia with guns available at home was the answer, after all this more or less had won the US independence from a British standing army. I believe this is very much the Swiss model today, very small professional army but all males between 18 and 30 needing to provide some form of military service, although there are non-military alternatives. Switzerland has a very high gun ownership per head of population, but I am not aware of any mass shootings of their own population. Unfortunately the US has ended up with the worst of all possible worlds, one of the largest and well equipped military in the world plus private guns outnumbering people, plus a general love of guns. I can’t see an easy solution, perhaps having a female president come next month may be a start.
All the school shootings have not changed a thing as you said Neal. Maybe you need to get as many people who dont agree with owning guns and take a petition to govt.
We don’t fear guns because nobody has them, even police are not armed. We still have shooting ranges but guns remain at the range. I know America is far bigger, much harder to police, many cannot depend on rapid response from police? The two countries are so very different, I agree people need guns for protection. But automatic weapons being so easily available to very young people should be illegal. You don’t need to take away guns completely to make people safer. Given the sheer amount of guns in America it’s obvious that the majority of people are responsible.
This is not entirely accurate although I am nit picking.. Not all handguns are banned, older lower calibre handguns are legal and although most semi automatic rifles are banned you can get M&p15-22 for example. It's far easier to get a shotgun, handguns and rifles are far more controlled. My household owns a shotgun and even that requires that you either belong to a gun club or have access to private land e.g. farmland. You also have to have a metal lockable gun cabinet with a separate lock box for ammo. You also get visited by the police once every couple of years to check up on you.
I remember this dreadful event, bloody awful. I just don't get how things haven't changed in the US. American voters need to sort this out I think...or are the American youtube reactors a minority? Anyway, doesn't make sense to me.
It didn't take one gun massacre to ban guns here in the UK. Dunblane was the second one. No one ever ever mentions the first one. Dunblane gets all the press because it was, unfortunately, a school and a deranged scout master as the shooter.!! Before this tragedy and between the first one ( I'll get to that in a mo ). I was a junior gun club member. I was 15/16 years old and was on the range plinking metal targets with a multitude of hand guns and assault rifles. It's not the gun that kills it the human holding it.!! So the first one was the Hungerford massacre 1986/7 , one Micheal Ryan went on a rampage through the town of Hungerford in Wiltshire, taking aim and free shooting anyone and everyone he came across.!!! Now think like this, because of these two massacres, we the majority of law-abiding Brits lost the rights to defend our homes,families, and castles. Now look again 2024. Thanks to those anti gun campaigning snowflakes, we are defenceless against an invasion that our governments either don't want to stop or won't..!!! And did this gun ban stop gun crime in Britain,.? Of course it didn't you can still get any weapons on the black market, the reason their not used as much nowadays is because the blade is sooo much cheaper, and the new breed like to get up close and personal. Bans don't solve the problem.!!!!
Yes they do the numbers speak for themselves the UK and Australia has some of the lowest gun crime figures in the world based on per 100,000 people Uk was 0.047 Australia 0.103 United States 4.054 Though some coutries are higher than the US. More police have been killed while on duty in the US in 1 month than the in the UK has in 2 decades or more. You will never totaly get rid of gun crime but come on we are a hell of a lot better for the ban.
mate wind your neck in, youre very very wrong. The uk has very low levels of violence, we have 600 murders total per year with 250 of them due to knife. This is LOWER than the city of chicago alone in the usa at 800 murders. The uk has almost 70 million, chicago has 3 million. We have only 3000 hospitalizations per year due to knives, despite what youve read on social media knife crime IS NOT going up, its down since 2019, please google and educate yourself. The UK is beyond safe, in an absolutely remarkable way, were one of the safest countries on the planet. The usa has 20,000 homicides per year with 1800 knife murders in 330 million people the UK has 600 homicides per year and 250 knife murders in 70 million people. The uk has 35 TOTAL TOTAL gun deaths per year, compared to 15,000 gun homicides in the usa.
Would you stand looking at your child's coffin and think that well we should keep guns? And if another victim's parents campaigned for restrictions and bans call them a snowflake? If you want to own a gun simple solution, move to America or another country with easy access.
@MichaelsTightPants You miss both points. The chances of another incident like Dunblane are slim at best if the law hadn't changed. Second, ask yourself this: What will you be thinking if it's your child and family that's been ended by one of our esteemed uninvited guests.? Or worse, you're in the line of sight as well, trying to defend your family . Would you think differently then about gun laws as everyone you love gets destroyed in front of your eyes.!!!!! Go on, be honest, tell me what you'll be thinking in that moment of helplessness.!!!
Here in the UK, owning a gun is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT and that's how it should be.
well said mate.
My daughter was 2 when this happened. I remember watching the news, holding her tight and crying. The fact that when she went to school, I didn't have to buy a bullet proof backpack, she never had to do shooter drills, helped me sleep better than any gun would.
The freedom from something is more important than the freedom to do something.
Agreed!
@@NealUKReactions I think you should react to this because the Czechs have the second amendment to have the right to bear arms. However it was implemented into their constitution in 2021. Three years ago.
Gun laws in Czech Republic vs. US
@@NealUKReactions You need to as america and the Czechs have a very similar history
@@NealUKReactions you know when he says we were on our own she was my only child,
A year before his wife di£d of c@ncer ,
Then a year later he lost his only daughter,
R i. P. To all those little angels,
And the monster that did it can rot in hell
I lived in Blackford at the time which is the next town to the shooting. We got the news about the shooting less than an hour after it happened. We packed up our things and waited in the classroom with our teacher as our Headmistress (who had children at Dunblane school) left to get her kids. Then when the parents of the children who needed picked up arrived those kids went home and the school was locked up and our teachers escorted us all home in a huge line before going home themselves. The school was shut for almost a month for security updates. The parents were angry, the local SMP’s were angry and Perth and Kinross Council were adamant this would never happen in their constituency again. Police Tayside was one of the first in the Met to make gun ownership harder to obtain and Perthshire remains to this day the hardest area to get a gun license in..
A similar thing happened in Australia and the government said "alright! No more guns! Abuse it, you lose it!" Which is fair enough.
It's sad to see the aftermath of these mass shootings, I hope that the U.S. will get things under control in the future, being 64 I very much doubt that it will be in my lifetime.
Unfortunately I do agree that it won't happen anytime soon if at all
@@NealUKReactions Yeah, sad to say. 😞
Yes sadly I feel the guns are far more important than school children or anyone’s lives. Like in Australia, a mass shooting in Tasmania where too many innocent children and adults were shot by a young man. That was enough to have gun control. Looks like more mass or singular shootings will never change in America. As for a law written so man years ago will never change. Other laws amendments have been changed, but not the gun laws. Why? I have absolutely no idea. A metal object is far more important than their own families having the right to live.
America seems to breed anarchy, I can't see it changing. I believe they have tried to find ways to make them less aggressive, like putting hormones in the paint on children's toys after WW2 but the government realized they make more money of the anarchy 😔
To quote "everyone knows someone that should not own a gun"
The gun law changes after Dunblane were a grassroots led protest looking to tighten up the laws at a time the government were considering relaxing them.
Though thankfully and heartbreakingly Dunblane is the only school shooting to have occurred in Great Britain, it isn’t the only mass shooting to have an impact on our gun laws. The other one was Hungerford in the 80’s.
He doesn’t speak about it too often (likely in part because he was a young child that didn’t have a clue what was going on at the time) but tennis player Andy Murray (who both won Wimbledon and Olympic medals) and his tennis player brother were both in the school that morning, with Andy’s class being on the way to the gym where those poor children and their teacher and assistants were shot at, when they were pulled into the safety of another room en route, as the alarm had just been raised.
Lol, no it wasn't. It was the Government stripping vital rights from the populace and using a minority of concerned parents as the excuse to do it. Lo and behold, they went after freedom of speech shortly after they took away our right to bear arms.
It was actually 2 massive shootings the first was Hungerford then Dunblane
And Cumbria 2010 only one mass School shooting in UK.
I’m from Scotland not far from Dunblane and i remember that day like it was yesterday. I admire Doctor North because he started the snowdrop appeal. His only daughter Sophie was one on the ones killed she was only 5 years old like the rest of the class and their teacher. The shooter was an adult called Thomas Hamilton and he ran a boys club out of Dunblane primary school. The school started to get complaints about him touching the boys inappropriately but he was never charged by police. The school banned him from running his boys club so he decided to get his own back on the school by murdering 15 tiny 5 year olds and their teacher Gwen in gym class. Mick North’s wife had died of cancer so he moved to Scotland after promising his wife he’d keep Sophie safe then this happened. I think it will always happen in the U.S. because they still think it’s the wild west days where people needed guns etc. Tuning in from the west of Scotland, UK. Tennis player Andy Murray went to that school and he was in his own class and he says it still affects him today. Take care and stay safe 😘🏴
Thank you for your reaction. Simply, thank you.
Even airguns are banned in Scotland without a licence. There was an amnesty where those who owned such weapons could hand them in to the Police. Owning one without a licence can carry a 2 year prison sentence.
I'm never going to forget seeing the Dunblane victims' photos on the front cover of the newspaper. We all knew we could mot let other children die that way.
Mass shootings in UK was Hungerford in 1987, Dumblane and Cumbria 2010.
There was a mass shooting in Hungerford before Dunblane.......things HAD to change. It's a lot more difficult to get those laws passed in America because the right to bear arms is entrenched in your Constitution so an American can always refuse because it's their right. It's lovely to see that you feel the hurt of loss due to these weapons in the hands of wrong-uns. Great video Neal.
💜💛💜💛💜🕊
So sad 😔 Rest in peace x
I'm not going to go on a typical anti American rant with regards to gun ownership as I understand the arguments for firearms in your country, but It's worth remembering that a similar situation (The Port Arthur Massacre) also happened in Australia, with the same restrictions successfully being put in place. In both cases of Dunblane massacre and the Port Arthur massacre, there hasn't been any mass school shootings since in the respective countries. Gun restrictions work, regardless of the country.
In Britain everyone still has the freedom to own a gun, subject to police checks and an interview. In the countryside, it's safe to say that the majority of our farmers own a shotgun or rifle for grouse shooting or animal control. We can also purchase hand guns for use in registered gun ranges (should we feel the need to pop a few shots off for fun).
The big difference is that here in the UK we don't walk around with a constant fear of being shot. Knowing the regular police don't have guns also makes us feel safer (ironically). With regards to home protection, we just ensure we have decent locks on our doors and windows. Of course we have a level of knife crime (which is still lower than the US), but it's easier to run away from a knife than a gun.
The thought of schools in the US having regular active shooter drills is baffling to us, and the idea of kids being brought up with a fear of being shot at a young age is just baffling. What Americans need to look at is who's perpetuating the "right to bear arms" ideology, which is the N.R.A. The money. If you want to see where corruption lies in society, always follow the money. The USA is still a great country, but as outsiders we watch your continuous tragic school shootings continue on and on without change, and it makes us sad.
you can still own hand guns in the UK it just has to be a revolver of a specific length
I had started school in 95. The follwing year after the Dunblane shooting we left on the friday and by the monday all the doors to gain access to the school had changed. You needed buzzed through. From memory the door was around half a foot thick.
I think the current world wide political mess will not be the time to ask Americans to abandon their right to bear arms. But there must be a compromise to stop unstable young men from getting hold of such devastating weapons.
While it’s true what happened at Dunblane did change UK gun laws I think it was something that was relatively easy for the government to do as guns have never been part of most peoples lives in the UK. The vast majority of people in he Uk don’t own a gun and have no desire to own one. I think the problem in the US is that gun ownership is so much part of the culture of the US any attempt to restrict gun ownership is a major political issue.
This is something that has always confused me. For a country fighting so hard to remove rights for legal abortions. America doesn't seem to care for the child when they hit school years. No child should be taught weekly how to hide from gunmen. No child should be sat completing exams, wondering if there will be a shooter that day. No child should be going to the cinema to watch the latest Disney film, wondering if they will leave alive.
Protect the children and let women decide if they want to bring an innocent into this cruel, evil, selfish world.
Also, guns are war weapons. Should they not be used as intended. For wars only?
UK gun laws are very strict - you have to prove a need to have that weapon as well as secure storage and the police can check at any time. I live amongst farms and most of my neighbours have shotguns for farm pests. Weapons have to be in secure cabinets with the action stored separately as well as the ammunition separate again. I used to be in charge of a cadet armoury and the regulations were the same, including for transport, and no one person could open the armoury as there were two keys and two keyholders. Even on military ranges, you have to account for every round and swear to the range officer that you have no spent cartridges in your possession.
After the death of one child in Glasgow, the Scottish Government petitioned the UK Government for years to be allowed to licence air weapons. Eventually, the power to do so was temporarily transferred for a law to be passed enabling air weapons to be subject to licencing in Scotland. One child's death was one too many.
Yes, Britain introduced stricter gun laws after Dunblane, but even before that Britain had fewer shootings than America.
There are many different factors as to why Britain and America are so different when it comes to shootings. The two most common problems are lack of Education and the media always scaring people by inflating the severity of news stories.
If you ask people in America why they have guns they always say for protection. When in fact it has more to do with them feeling tough. If a person can kill another person with their hands or with something as simple as a pencil, why would they need a gun?
Neal, John Oliver did a really good 3 part story on Australia’s changes to gun laws, too. You would appreciate it.
Also, check out “Australia’s Dangerous Animals” by the Van Vuuren bros.
Gun ownership in the U.S. is a right whereas in the U.K. it's a privilege.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. I think Einstein said it as in doing the exact same experiment and expecting a different outcome in your findings.
I am certainly no expert in the subject of guns or gun ownership, Neal, but from my understanding of the Dunblane massacre in 1996 in Scotland, because of the Snowdrop Appeal organised by the parents of those 15_five_year_old boys and girls, and 1_six_year_old boy, _and_ their teacher, who had been shot multiple times as she tried to save two nearest to her of the girls of her class, by a scoutmaster who was already allegedly had s.abused boys in his scout group, but who had licenced guns and ammunition. He had been removed from his scout group and held a severe grudge against the authorities. Why he killed those 16 very young school children was known only to him, but after he had shot them, and their teacher and having shot at others outside, he then shot himself. British people were shocked, horrified and distraught to learn of the heinous act by that man and petitioned the government to pass the necessary laws to prevent it from happening again.
There have been two other mass shootings in Britain. One in a town called Whitehaven, in the north west county of Cumbria, and one in a town called Hungerford, in (I think) the county of Bedfordshire (please correct me if I'm mistaken in any if these comments). There was also a case where a man shot and killed his wife, daughter/s and some animals on his estate, and he then shit himself too...but I dont know where that was. Plus, there was the case of the White House killings, whereby the adopted son of a couple -
Jeremy Bamber - killed those two people, and his sister and her two young twin sons, but blamed _her_ for the shootings saying he was not at home at the time. He was arrested, tried and found guilty of all four killings and sent to prison.
All these events are easily found on News videos / documentaries on YT, plus the Jeremy Bamber case was made into a film about it and shown on Netfix (UK).
I believe that gun control is not entirely down to “laws” as important as these are, but down to cultural norms. Living in South East England guns are never talked about (except when the News has an item about yet another mass shooting of children at a US school), I personally do not know of anyone who has a gun, they are quite simply not part of our lives. Passing laws anti gun legislation is easy (although the US seems to even find this impossible) but changing culture will be the difficult issue.
As this video states, the second Amendment to the constitution is totally misinterpreted and was never intended to allow 16 year olds to have AK47s. It was to do with the general mistrust at that time of countries having “professional standing armies” not just in the US but other countries around the world. The belief was that having a militia with guns available at home was the answer, after all this more or less had won the US independence from a British standing army. I believe this is very much the Swiss model today, very small professional army but all males between 18 and 30 needing to provide some form of military service, although there are non-military alternatives.
Switzerland has a very high gun ownership per head of population, but I am not aware of any mass shootings of their own population. Unfortunately the US has ended up with the worst of all possible worlds, one of the largest and well equipped military in the world plus private guns outnumbering people, plus a general love of guns. I can’t see an easy solution, perhaps having a female president come next month may be a start.
All the school shootings have not changed a thing as you said Neal. Maybe you need to get as many people who dont agree with owning guns and take a petition to govt.
Petitions have been tried. The gun industry has more sway in Washington than the people.
We don’t fear guns because nobody has them, even police are not armed.
We still have shooting ranges but guns remain at the range.
I know America is far bigger, much harder to police, many cannot depend on rapid response from police?
The two countries are so very different, I agree people need guns for protection.
But automatic weapons being so easily available to very young people should be illegal.
You don’t need to take away guns completely to make people safer.
Given the sheer amount of guns in America it’s obvious that the majority of people are responsible.
'It's the world we live in'? Passively just accepting that? You have a channel that could start to change that mindset. Do something, Neal..
This is not entirely accurate although I am nit picking.. Not all handguns are banned, older lower calibre handguns are legal and although most semi automatic rifles are banned you can get M&p15-22 for example. It's far easier to get a shotgun, handguns and rifles are far more controlled. My household owns a shotgun and even that requires that you either belong to a gun club or have access to private land e.g. farmland. You also have to have a metal lockable gun cabinet with a separate lock box for ammo. You also get visited by the police once every couple of years to check up on you.
I remember this dreadful event, bloody awful. I just don't get how things haven't changed in the US. American voters need to sort this out I think...or are the American youtube reactors a minority? Anyway, doesn't make sense to me.
Love u dude a lot, sorry guns infuriate brits ... makes me sick...
Sorry this is horrific, but we need those guns now. We are defenceless now.....
Maybe the people should reconsider who has the right to own a gun.
Nobody should
It didn't take one gun massacre to ban guns here in the UK.
Dunblane was the second one. No one ever ever mentions the first one. Dunblane gets all the press because it was, unfortunately, a school and a deranged scout master as the shooter.!!
Before this tragedy and between the first one ( I'll get to that in a mo ). I was a junior gun club member. I was 15/16 years old and was on the range plinking metal targets with a multitude of hand guns and assault rifles. It's not the gun that kills it the human holding it.!!
So the first one was the Hungerford massacre 1986/7 , one Micheal Ryan went on a rampage through the town of Hungerford in Wiltshire, taking aim and free shooting anyone and everyone he came across.!!!
Now think like this, because of these two massacres, we the majority of law-abiding Brits lost the rights to defend our homes,families, and castles.
Now look again 2024. Thanks to those anti gun campaigning snowflakes, we are defenceless against an invasion that our governments either don't want to stop or won't..!!!
And did this gun ban stop gun crime in Britain,.? Of course it didn't you can still get any weapons on the black market, the reason their not used as much nowadays is because the blade is sooo much cheaper, and the new breed like to get up close and personal.
Bans don't solve the problem.!!!!
Yes they do the numbers speak for themselves the UK and Australia has some of the lowest gun crime figures in the world based on per 100,000 people Uk was 0.047 Australia 0.103 United States 4.054 Though some coutries are higher than the US. More police have been killed while on duty in the US in 1 month than the in the UK has in 2 decades or more. You will never totaly get rid of gun crime but come on we are a hell of a lot better for the ban.
You need to educate yourself mate!
mate wind your neck in, youre very very wrong. The uk has very low levels of violence, we have 600 murders total per year with 250 of them due to knife. This is LOWER than the city of chicago alone in the usa at 800 murders. The uk has almost 70 million, chicago has 3 million. We have only 3000 hospitalizations per year due to knives, despite what youve read on social media knife crime IS NOT going up, its down since 2019, please google and educate yourself. The UK is beyond safe, in an absolutely remarkable way, were one of the safest countries on the planet. The usa has 20,000 homicides per year with 1800 knife murders in 330 million people the UK has 600 homicides per year and 250 knife murders in 70 million people. The uk has 35 TOTAL TOTAL gun deaths per year, compared to 15,000 gun homicides in the usa.
Would you stand looking at your child's coffin and think that well we should keep guns? And if another victim's parents campaigned for restrictions and bans call them a snowflake? If you want to own a gun simple solution, move to America or another country with easy access.
@MichaelsTightPants You miss both points. The chances of another incident like Dunblane are slim at best if the law hadn't changed. Second, ask yourself this: What will you be thinking if it's your child and family that's been ended by one of our esteemed uninvited guests.?
Or worse, you're in the line of sight as well, trying to defend your family . Would you think differently then about gun laws as everyone you love gets destroyed in front of your eyes.!!!!!
Go on, be honest, tell me what you'll be thinking in that moment of helplessness.!!!