Benefits of Ward Boundaries

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  • Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
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  • @advocate7643
    @advocate7643 Місяць тому +7

    This is hardly effecetive bc abusers get pardoned when they confess to their bishop. They rarely get reported to the police bc of priest penitent privelege. They get callings after confessing or if a new bishop is called he may not know the abusers history. Many churches do background checks for callings. This church does not.

    • @halodisciple8459
      @halodisciple8459 Місяць тому +3

      You have no data to back that up. You just have isolated incidents you heard in the news and you think that's the way it is everywhere.

    • @advocate7643
      @advocate7643 Місяць тому

      @@halodisciple8459There is no data available. What’s obvious is that there are more hush cases than cases of church clergy reporting abusers. Floodlit has done thorough research on this and I recommend checking them out. Btw I dont look at the news I look at source material like court records and police reports. You’ll be suprised at what you uncover

    • @TroySchoonover
      @TroySchoonover Місяць тому +2

      My father was a Bishop here in Florida, and I can assure you, he never swept anything under the rug. He is a mandatory reporter.

    • @advocate7643
      @advocate7643 Місяць тому

      @@TroySchoonoverI would hope all bishops ignore priest penitent privilege and the church’s hotline like your father does

    • @advocate7643
      @advocate7643 Місяць тому

      @@halodisciple8459The problem is that it happens in the first place. Other church’s don’t have the issues I stated bc they do background checks and mandated reported. This isn’t hard. Check out floodlit’s database.

  • @jolynnemcdonald8365
    @jolynnemcdonald8365 2 місяці тому +14

    In theory. But when the members of that ward protect the abuser because they are in a position of authority, this point is lost. It has happened many, many times when the bishop sweeps it under the rug and allows it to continue.

    • @eltonrosas
      @eltonrosas 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah ok

    • @GoAlamo
      @GoAlamo Місяць тому

      Riiiiiiiiiiiiiifht.

    • @lindamartinez7006
      @lindamartinez7006 Місяць тому +2

      I honestly do not think it happens many many times . Yes it can happen anywhere but honestly the LDS church is very safe . And measures have been placed to make it e en safer

    • @lindamartinez7006
      @lindamartinez7006 Місяць тому +2

      I never thought of award boundaries like that. When you think about it it is a good protection . Thanks for pointing that out .

    • @nello1591
      @nello1591 Місяць тому +2

      ​@lindamartinez7006 it happens a lot but the church uses it's resources to silence victims in court, bishops don't report abuse, etc. It is seldom actually dealt with and instead shushed. There are resources out there that have numerous accounts available to learn about and how the church failed to protect victims.

  • @TheTibetyak
    @TheTibetyak 2 місяці тому +8

    Neighborhood Watch used to be a good thing.

  • @Anon.thoughts
    @Anon.thoughts Місяць тому +8

    Except things still happen and they just cover it up

    • @lifetaketwo7662
      @lifetaketwo7662 26 днів тому

      LDS church has highest abuse rates of any church

  • @ellenc48
    @ellenc48 2 місяці тому +22

    My church does background checks. You can't work with kids without it. We also require reporting of abuse. I'm a recent case in Bisbee, AZ, a LDS lawyer argued that not only did the bishop have the right to not report an abuser but so did the ward clerk. That allowed the abuser to continue abusing all of his children for years. How does that protect children?

    • @katewhitehouse4836
      @katewhitehouse4836 2 місяці тому +2

      The church I go to does background checks as well, especially if your in the children's program. The minister, the custodian etc., And if you want to join it takes time, interviews and communication with your previous church, and voted in or denied by the members, it usually takes several months. And they check the police predator website as well. Women andd Children's safety is priority .

    • @katewhitehouse4836
      @katewhitehouse4836 2 місяці тому +1

      And if your a new candidate for membership and want to be baptized you have to take Bible studies with a church member or the minister for 12 lessons. Not LDS, but other churches are careful too.

    • @davevine22
      @davevine22 2 місяці тому +2

      Then the Arizona legislature needs to update the law. Clergy-penitent privilege is a very old legal concept with different application across jurisdictions. Take it up with the State government if you disagree. The Church doesn't create law.

    • @GoAlamo
      @GoAlamo Місяць тому

      Background checks are a false sense of security. They don’t do what you think they do.

    • @lindamartinez7006
      @lindamartinez7006 Місяць тому

      @@katewhitehouse4836but most it all but most churches preachers are the abusers .

  • @Mikelray-df9my
    @Mikelray-df9my Місяць тому +2

    The problem with that is the kids aren't protected within their ward boundaries. Abusers don't just live outside the boundaries of your ward.

  • @angelalewis3645
    @angelalewis3645 Місяць тому

    This is amazing, and I love it!

  • @jenniferglover9905
    @jenniferglover9905 2 місяці тому +4

    Yeah but if someone in the ward is doing something in the ward you won't be told because that's gossip. You can tell the bishop but if it's a guy 50/50 he keeps it in the boys club because he doesn't want the problem, doesn't want to have a problem ward, doesn't want people to know his 'discernment' didn't catch it, extra. If you tell headquarters they will just get you with their lawyers who gaslight you or pay you off if they're forced to. There are class action suits about church abuse! 🤮

    • @mikelawlor1533
      @mikelawlor1533 2 місяці тому

      you have forgotten- That people get them checked to someone getting a call is announced her in sacrament

    • @jacobmcneal3011
      @jacobmcneal3011 18 днів тому

      Ummm, ive never seen them be checked...

  • @sailorcowboy
    @sailorcowboy Місяць тому +1

    hat kind if church has "ward boundaries?"
    - serious question. curious. I grew up United methodist

    • @kylebecker9673
      @kylebecker9673 Місяць тому

      The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Members don't shop around for the congregation of their choice, you attend the congregation assigned to your area. Basically always the congregation closest to your house.

    • @sailorcowboy
      @sailorcowboy Місяць тому +1

      @@kylebecker9673 Thanks for answering my question.

    • @kylebecker9673
      @kylebecker9673 Місяць тому

      @@sailorcowboy No prob

  • @benzun9600
    @benzun9600 Місяць тому +2

    Chinese big brother

  • @elderinisrael
    @elderinisrael 2 місяці тому +9

    It's amazing how the Lord has setup his church!

  • @chadland2012
    @chadland2012 Місяць тому

    I don't necessarily agree with this. After all how many times on the news have neighbors said they "never would have guess" this/that person was XYZ.

  • @ecm8948
    @ecm8948 2 місяці тому +6

    Nobody will tell me where I go to worship...Thank goodness I live in an area where I have a choice

  • @G-mom-A
    @G-mom-A Місяць тому

    Wow
    Someone tell the anti Mormons

    • @nello1591
      @nello1591 Місяць тому

      The "anti-mormons" are actively learning about the wrongs in the church and fighting to change them so the organization has a better environment. Active members see a short on UA-cam and say to themselves all is well in Zion and do nothing.

    • @advocate7643
      @advocate7643 Місяць тому

      @@nello1591exactly. The church now does mandated background checks on callings in the UK bc people over there protested for it. The church can change for the better if the members actually have a desire to see it be better

  • @yaadasshows
    @yaadasshows 2 місяці тому +8

    This lady is sketchy - creepy. The HOA of church. No thank you

    • @Lola-sz8zu
      @Lola-sz8zu 2 місяці тому

      😂

    • @Kalain2237
      @Kalain2237 2 місяці тому +5

      Why are you a creep or something? Why else would you be afraid of this lady?

    • @FebbieG
      @FebbieG 25 днів тому

      Did you watch the whole interview?

  • @katinthecorner
    @katinthecorner 2 місяці тому

    Beautifully explains why privacy is over rated and the government should also know everything about each of us and follow us wherever we live, work, etc.

    • @Zebojr2kool
      @Zebojr2kool 2 місяці тому +1

      Nope

    • @kris5042
      @kris5042 2 місяці тому

      When liberals tell on themselves😭😭