@@mannyfragoza9652 It was pretty much against the microphone when I’m shooting it. It’s quiet…but does need a lube-tune. I’ll be ordering some Tune in a Tube next week, to silence that spring a little bit.
Spot on video love my PCPs and my rimfires etc but when it comes down to survival my r9 or my hw50 in 22 is what I’ll rely on I wouldn’t trust much else below the weihrauchs for long term durability
Thanks for watching, and commenting! I too love my PCPs and my powder burners. If I had to pick up a tool for harvesting food, though, it’s a springer any day of the week. And I’m a serious fan of Weihrauchs. I loved my Dianas until I picked one of these up. I love them all, but this is the “horse for the course” when it comes to a survival air rifle.
You have chosen well sir, the Weihrauch HW95 as we know it here in the UK, is one of the best break barrel Air Rifles currently available, although my choice would be the Hw80k, I say that as an owner of one, all the best 👍
Thank you for watching and commenting. I love the HW80 as well. It was just missing the iron sights. I do like the sling points on the 80 though. I may have to buy one of those to add to my collection of these fine German air rifles!
I have used the hw 95 a few times both the older model and the later model. Each time was on a long day hunting trip.and they were both excellent performers, not one bad thing could i find with either rifle. With these hunting days still fresh in my mind i took one of my own hw 99s rifles on my next hunting day out, And i honestly could not find a thing any different with the 95s and my own 99s, ONLY the weight, but all three were good at the job they were intended for. Thanks to Weihrauch's attention to the detail engineered into each rifle they build.
Not true, German quality definitely IS beatable. Weihrauch make very nice rifles, my favourite go-to gun is my tuned 97, however the quality of a Factory Weihrauch is misleading, the blueing is good and the stocks look nice but the internals aren’t very well finished and need to be de burred. Springs don’t fit in guides, spring ends are left cropped and not finished, they twang and buzz because they don’t come ready tuned, they’re only 6/10 for quality. If you want to see examples of air rifles who are significantly better engineered and built to much higher standards of quality, you want to look at Whiscombe Air Rifles and Spartan Air Rifles and Ripley Air Rifles - they are some of the best equipment know .
.22 Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 Multi-Pump. It has PCP accuracy, iron sights, variable power, self contained, not loud and has a threaded tip for a silencer. I really like mine.
Hi, I have a collection of pcp’s and springers but my go to for would be either my vintage (1981) WEIHRAUCH HW80 or 1983 I WEIHRAUCH HW35e both completely original with open sights ( and original scopes) both .22 .both very quiet .just subbed (UK)
For me, I just got into air rifles this summer ☀️ and I'm hooked.. I haven't chot and air rifle in 30 years, and man, I didn't know that some of these break barrel air rifles was so powerful nowadays 😳.. I think I'm addicted to it ..😅 and mine does have iron sights. But I would say my 177 cal and 22 cal both have advantages and disadvantages but I would say that I would trust them both to get the job done ✔️ if needed be..
I personally think airguns are amazing tools. I have pcps that are hand pumpable and break barrels. PCPs are fine for a shtf, but you’d definitely want something hand pump friendly.
Spring piston, less to go wrong, something with a simple trigger and maybe a smoothbore as sooner or later you'll be firing wood or clay projectiles or manufacturing darts. Old Diana 27 or similar, take a bird or rabbit at 20 yards, when the piston seal goes you can wrap the piston with some plant fibre etc, light weight
I run an r9 with a 12ft lb vortex kit in .177 I have an hw95 in .22 and a quail gun Hw30 in 177. I have zero use for either Gamo , or crossman. I’ll stick with the hw line of guns. My favorite over all for out to 40 yards is my HW35E walnut stock in .22. I’ve take both squirrel and rabbit out to 40-50 yards without too much trouble.
I like the Gamo as well. It is just too difficult to find pellets that don't go supersonic, for me. Thanks for watching, and the comment! I really appreciate it.
Our survival airgun needs to reliable and durable. I can't think of any machine more reliable and durable than a spring powered air rifle. As you say, it should have iron sights. Scopes are great but they can fail. A lifetime factory warantee is no good if the factory doesn't exist anymore. They should be low maintenance and user serviceable. Our springers can go many thousands of shots with just a few drops of oil every now and then. I am not there yet but I think we should be able to reseal our airguns if need be. Reseal kits for the Crossman 1322 pistol and 140 and 692 rifle are available and not expensive. To reseal a Springer is a bit more work but is doable if a fellow is the least bit handy. In a survival situation I would have a box trap set around my property every 100 yards or so for oppossums and raccoons. The best bait for therm is dry cat food or a rotten egg. If there were beaver or nutria in my area i would trap them too. Canned corn is good bait for nutria. Beaver might like it too. Traps hunt night and day. If things really go to crap, the day critters will be hunted out in a few months. The night critters will still be around. That's where your traps come in. Box traps need to be hidden or people will steal them. The heavy spring wire kill traps are easier to hide but may be illegal in some states. I have both kinds of traps . There is a learning curve to trapping. I suggest that you get started figuring it out. I have a half a dozen Havahart traps and the same in kill traps. Traps are expensive so it might be a good idea to learn to build your own traps. I carry a Crossman 1322 pump up pistol in a shoulder holster when I check my traps. The critter doesn't mind waiting while I pump up the gun. I exceed the 10 pump limit when shooting big critters in my traps. One pump per grain of pellet weight seems to work pretty well at six inches off the muzzle shooting through the top of the head. Of course an air rifle will work fine if you don't mind being seen walking around with a long gun. Thanks for the video.
@@johnndavis7647 100% agree with your comment. I’ll be doing a series on primitive trapping. I have 20 or so Dukes, some HaveAHearts and of course the normal snap traps. But I don’t rely on them. Learning a few snares, treddles, and windlass traps is always a good thing! I have a 1377 for this purpose and of course killing mice and other annoyance animals that can be easily over penetrated. It’s nice chatting with you.
@@SilverSurvival I have the Gamo Magnum 22 caliber 10x . Using a heavier pellet can slow the FPS down . Also the Gamo XTR in 25 caliber , both have iron sights .
100% of the time, when it counts most, I've got to agree. The Beeman R9 is my new baseline, by which I'll judge all other air rifles. Perhaps I'll find another HW to ad to the collection... ;)
Have a Gamo in .177 & in 22 both have iron sights with scopes as well. I have 2 Crossmans as well , one in .177 & 22 ,no iron sights , just scopes on them. For survival make sure you have plenty of pellets as well , a minimum of 5,000 for each caliber . When things go south it would be hard to find pellets that will work well with your chosen airguns.
It’s going to be impossible to buy pellets when things go south. I recommend a base of 2,000. Build from there, but never dip below that number. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@SilverSurvival I think sling shots would make a good backup tool when you runout of pellets. They are stealthy quiet Small pebbles can be found in most places. One would need to stock up on the bands for sure , they do brake eventually. Oh practice with it , I certainly need to do it. A hand held or miniture cross bow would be handy as well. The bolts costs money though, I’m cheap . LOL Survive & live another day & May your belly always be full .
Hard choice for me as I have many. Benjamin pump in 22 from the 1990’s. Self contained and works no matter what and relatively quiet. Brass never needs cleaning and doesn’t rust except for bolt and it’s nickel plated. I have Diana springers that I have taken game at 71 yds open sights. They will rust if not oiled or kept inside. Heavy too. The Benjamin 312, 342 or 392 would be the absolute best for reliability. Cooking oil will lube a pump cup and spares are kept with ammo. On the 312 a pump seal can be made from leather. These guns are still working and accurate 70+ years on now and make about 14 -18 ft lbs when tuned with good seals. For an extended stay in inclement weather, my Benjamin 342 made in Racine Wisconsin will be my choice. Takes down with one screw to be 22-1/2 inches long too.
I’m seeing a lot of pump guns in this thread. Good choice. Basically a single shot PCP. Easy to maintain, accurate and readily available parts. Thanks for your input and for watching. I appreciate it.
I bought a Crosman Storm (springer) 16 yrs ago from walmart for 85.00 bucks and was the only shooter I owned in my adult life, but I now own also a Beeman QB Chief which I love............. But the Crossman is my SHTF primary shooter.... But going back to your gamo magnum, to quiet it down below subsonic is to shoot heavier pellets, and usually pellets don't like fying over 900FPS anyway.
Marauder, 20 consistent shots on a fill, 2 magazines, no fumbling with pellets in the field, quiet. The pump wouldn’t be bad if I had to hump it. The probability of needing more than 20 shots per outing is lower than being able to take a follow up shot from miscalculating distance or more than one animal available.
The R9 is a great gun. I may get one someday. For now I use the Beeman Mantis 10616 with silencer, upgraded scope, ammo pouch, cheek rest, counter weights, open sights, and strap, 9.2 lbs. 1,000 FPS with RWS Superdomes 8.3 grain lead pellets. 18.4 FPE muzzle. Grouping 0.3" @ 30 meters or 33 yards. 28 lb cocking effort. Length 49". Steel spring. I have three air guns with steel springs, none have failed. All of my pnumatic high pressure pump guns, PCP, whatever, have all failed and are trashed. Gas springs are going to fail, they have seals and high pressure. In the wilderness in survival mode, no one is going to fix your gas ram. But your steel spring power plant is probably going to work hot or cold, forever. My springs do not get weak when I leave them cocked. Another myth busted. The gun is so quiet I can take follow-up shots. The silencer is amazing. Thanks for the video and enjoy that R9!
You made a wise choice there, I have a Beeman R-7 which I really am good with, and if possible?, I'd like to try to get an HW-50s in .22...Because of my disabilities, a lighter air rifle works for me.
R9 every time German build quality every time I’ve got a hw99s and 95k for that reason. Diana make some good affordable rifles too and German. I also pack a slingshot too
I'd stick with a springer with scope and Iron sights. Your Beeman is I believe the HW95 in Britain. Hermans ( HW)1st but your idea of a detuned Gamo is a good one.
.25 Senica Eagle Claw using 27gr Benjamin pellets or 28gr FX slugs. 2.5x15x32 with red dot and front lazer. I have a pump and just ordered a compressor that uses 18 volt Makita batteries.
Nice. I’ve seen a few who choose the 362. It’s basically the same design as the old 760 that I used as a kid, and the 1377 I use today. Thanks for watching and sharing!
I would go with the Gamo it's light with synthetic stock and it's a springer treated right it will last a life time . I still have and use an El Gamo magnum from the 1970 ies in full working order .... A lovely gun to shoot .
Great video! I'm getting my first springer soon and it's hard to choose. I need something that's great out of the box, built to last and about 300 dollars. The Beeman R9 is very nice but a tad too expensive. I just want a great all-round survival springer. Cheers from Denmark
I understand your position, my friend. I’ll be doing this same process on a “budget friendly” option for a survival air rifle. I’m going to target $250 USD. Thank you for watching, your trust, and commenting. There are plenty of springers in your price range. Perhaps one of the RWS springers? All of mine are very nice and good shooters.
@@SilverSurvival that's sounds very good! I'll be looking forward to that video! The springer is the last piece I need for my "if the shit hits the fan" pack (and also just a great addition to my overall camping gear 😊).
I would take the Gamo, you can take larger game due to its power, the stock is not wood, making it more durable in bad weather, and it has a gas power plant. Use heavier ammo to reduce noice. Awesome video!
I wish there were more offerings of self pumping PCPs. They are out there, but there aren’t a lot to choose from. Good choice though. Bought a beeman years ago. It was my first air rifle. Tack driver. Loved it.
@@SilverSurvival Air Venturi came out with the Seneca aspen a few years back, and I remember FX having one, one of their earliest models. Guess it never took off because they never came out with an upgrade of the model. Cheers 🍻
The only survival role that I would see for an airgun would be for small game hunting and target practice in a long term static position. For that I would want a rifle that could be maintained and repaired indefinitely and is accurate and powerful enough for hunting and quiet enough to use unnoticed. If you're bugging out, then you could better use the space for something else. I'd nix the Crosman and the Gamo because of their gas rams and Gamo also because of their lack of replacement parts. The Marauder and the R9 can both be easily fixed and so can a handpump for the Marauder. In a lot of ways PCP's are actually easier and cheaper to fix than springers. A ziplock baggie full of O-rings and a tube of silicone grease is about all you need to keep one running indefinitely, but then an extra spring and a few extra seals will keep the R9 going long term as well. The lack of iron sights wouldn't bother me at all. Just put aside an extra scope and all's well. It's not like it's a combat weapon where if your optic fails you absolutely need an immediate replacement. If the scope on your airgun fails you might have to wait an extra hour to shoot pigeons.
I have a number of rifles, but my go to survival rifles are hw80 ( beeman r1) and hw 77, both are early 1980 models and although heavy, I wouldn't trust anything else 😊
the sheridan c air rifle mine from 1970 a sweet air rifle ,20 cal 670 fps. second choice a daisy 880 mine from 1974 700 fps .177 cal both air rifles my top choices.
Hard to argue your points. Also a low report is nice. I only have Grandpa's 30-30 and everything else us Air driven. I like the guys comment about having a hand gun around. The accational vermit or just a fast get it and go. Ohhh I use Blue locktight on all my guns. I still have some scope creap going on that needs to be delt with on a Umarex. Ill look through nore videos and see if im mounting correct.
Love the old 30-30. I had an old top eject model 94, when I was a kid. I do most of my hunting now with archery and air rifles. Blue Locktite is mandatory on action screws. It’s just not worth it not to do at least that much. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I am in the North East of England and the laws are different to the US : . But my Air Weapon of choice would be my old Webley Beeman Excel 22 Carbine . Because it is short and easy to use with it's standard open sites , also break barrel and easy to maintain . Easy to take the Scope on and off in the field if necessary . But I have got all sorts of Traditional and Pneumatic Air Weapons , and still I may take this one . Barry . Noth East of England . 🏍️ .
I can run my pump from solar. I can carry a backup firemans tank of air and that will last me a good while on a hunt. i'd only use the break barrel for bare minimum stuff personally.
With great respect, Sir, I'm not sure I could get excited about a 200 dollar spring piston air rifle. As the sayings go, Buy cheap, buy twice, and you get what you pay for. I'd sooner save and go for Weirhauch or Air Arms, and then just sit back and enjoy their quality, craftsmanship, materials, accuracy, fine machining tolerances, etc.
@@ianwoods1384 I agree with you. There is certainly a lot to be said about spending more and getting more. In fact, I’d say that the higher end air rifles are a much better value. However, many people just can’t afford to spend that much money, but still want to be able to feed their families if things go sideways. We all have a different reality. When I bought the Benjamin Trail NP, it’s what I could afford, and with a little work and a small bearing for a RC car, I improved the trigger tremendously. That rifle has put a lot of food on my table over the years. My Dianas have since taken its place in the woods, and now the Beeman will take the Dianas place. I honestly can’t wait to get my hands on another fine German air rifle!
@SilverSurvival Hello Sir, Thank you for your reply, and yes, you talk a lot of sense. Buying what you can afford and improving it, I would find worthwhile, a challenge, and very exciting and satisfying. May I ask you, please? Have you ever owned a Diana Original Model 35? My much loved late father left one in .177 and one in .22 calibre for me. Funnily enough, I did what you've just written about. They were rough, and I overhauled them. I cleaned them all up. I polished the piston and replaced the piston and breech seals. I made a top hat for them and sleeved the spring guide and inside the piston. They both shot fantastic afterwards, with no twang, and I'm so glad I did what I did. In memory of dad, it was very satisfying, thank you.
Survival air rifle One that's VERY durable, reasonably accurate, and powerful enough to take small game. So, to begin with, no Chinese built junk. . My top choices / small game / .177 caliber FWB-124D Beeman(Webley & Scott) C1 Beeman R1 / R9 / etc any of the Weihrauch "R" Beeman rifles Diana 34 / 36 / 38 / 45 / etc For larger pests or small game at greater range / .22 caliber Beeman RX2 Beeman(Webley & Scott) Kodiak Diana 350 Magnum . And that's also a bit less, but useful Benjamin 392 - prefer the old wood stock one. . .177 vs .22 GENERALLY i recommend .177 for air rifles that deliver under 20ft lbs of muzzle energy, over 20ft lbs .22 It has to do with pellet selection(variety) to match the power of the rifle. AND, Air rifles tend to perform best(combination of accuracy and a nice flat trajectory out to their useful limit) when you keep the MV between 800 and 900fps you do that by matching pellet weight to the power of your rifle.
First, make a list of the wildlife, that you have easy access to, and are willing to harvest. Assess your area for a normal expected range of engagement. Decide what’s important to you. (For me, it has to work whether the scope ceases to function, and without any supporting gear, and it has to be sub sonic, and reliable). That’s a decent start. Each persons list will determine what they need.
Crosman c362 .22 cal and with 10 pumps it’s over 700fps, and at 15 pumps it’s very 800fps. Proven and highly modifiable 1322/1377 platform. Easy to reseal and o rings are cheap and can be shoved in the buttstock. Best of all it has .22cal power vs a tiny .177.
@@patrickpendergast898 nice. I have a 1377, that is mainly for pest control, where I seriously need to regulate the power, to avoid over penetration into my buildings. Thanks for watching g and sharing!
I wouldn't count on a PCP as a 'survival" choice.... too many valves, regulators etc. required to make it work that can go wrong. In the field there's no electricity so that eliminates the compressor so it would require a manual HP pump, another link in the chain that if it fails renders the gun useless. My preference is for a quality break barrel springer. Simple to maintain with minimal moving parts .
@@SilverSurvival I like PCPs too, they're easy to shoot, usually quite accurate and if you have a compressor, easy to recharge,,, but it's like using a nice pair of loafers as hiking shoes, when it comes to an actual survival situation, you want the right gear for the job.
I would add that in second place to my Benjamin 342 in .22 for those who may not know the Benjamin pump rifles that end in 2 are 22 and the models that end in 7 are 177. I have a HW97 and an Air Arms TX200 and a lot of Diana 34's in 22 and 177 as well as 48's in both too. The Diana 34 would be a strong candidate for 2nd as well as my Hatsan 125's in 22 and 25 caliber, Their power is too much to ignore and I have shot one in 22 many thousands of shots and it's still incredible. Too heavy for survival on the move but if it was all I had I would use it! The Hatsan 125's are sufficient to take medium sized game with close head shots. Anyway I see some people choosing pcp's. If you are stationary absolutely. I'd grab a big Texan and my 22 FX Verminator and Boss .30 in a second but are we moving? Not sure where we are going? Running for our lives? A LOT of situations come under the heading Survival. If I'm traveling, I still say, My Benjamin 342 with 16 and 19 gr pellets and round balls. Round balls are better for penetration and are easy to load in the dark and,, with pumpers you can use fewer pumps and not overpenetrate like in a house or camper! I speak from experience. I even shoot q tips in them to take out wasps and spiders. The pumpers will have a place in my safe as long as I shoot as well as being my first choice as a gun that's always loaded and pumped ready to go with the striker uncocked so it's safe to leave fully pressurized like any other pcp. Also if you are traveling you will be restricted where you can walk with ANY RIFLE or gun that can't be concealed. My Verminator in .22 shoots 16 grain pellets 1050 fps and 750 fps and 29 gr slugs 720 fps and takes down to 16 inches. Shoots 200 shots per fill. Reassembled it does 120. 14 shot magazines it's my favorite BUT it needs a bottle or a compressor, Not feasible if moving. Otherwise it's my go to gun so I will say NO 1 Choice for pcp because common adequate caliber, I have quick detach sights on a rail and it's super accurate. I have lots of choices. It would be hard to choose depending on the situation
The SMK Victory CP2 CO2, .22 Rifle/Pistol combo (with supplied silencer) is super light weight & breaks down to "Backpack" size with removable stock. OK, so only around 8.5 Ft/Lbs energy with the long Rifle barrel (I'm UK, Sub 12, which is still easily enough for small game up to 30 yards) Fitted with a cheap, very cheap "WULF" 2 to 7 X32 AO Mildot scope, or Iron sights. Just need a few, 12 gram, CO2 cartridges in said Backpack !! + Would you be too bothered about possibly, wounding & chasing down bigger, small game - In a "Survival" situation ? (We're not talking about bringing down Wildebeest here)
Very nice. It doesn’t take much energy. I killed many squirrels and rabbits and a couple of ground hogs with my Daisy Red Ryder BB gun when I was a child. I treat every kill as if it’s important. Whether it’s a deer or a turtle. It’s a life that I’m taking to feed me. The problem is t chasing them down. The problem is that if I take a low probability shot, hit the animal poorly, and it drops down into a hollow tree to die. None of us want that. Thanks for watching and commenting!
American vs European (Luxe) combs. American combs are higher to accommodate a scope. European style stocks are swept downward to accommodate a good cheek weld when looking at the iron sights.
I have two thoughts which depend on the size game you are hunting. The first is a .457 Texan with 147 grain round ball (fire cast - old school) using wheel weights. Filling time is approx 3.5 minutes for a 60 year old man to pump the rifle with a hand pump. This load produces just short of 300 fpe (38 special hand gun power). If you have more time you can use heavier projectiles and more air pressure and make 650fpe or more (10 mm hand gun power). The Texan .457 rifle has taken black bear without issue. The round ball load is just an easy lower power option that's not too rough on the user. ua-cam.com/video/ScYnxZEqS84/v-deo.htmlsi=4tDlHFNG50ljpDU6 The other is a .177 that provides over 100 shots and groups smaller than a golf ball at 37 yards. ua-cam.com/video/VCoS877By9A/v-deo.html .177 PCP vs a .22 cal mag springer at 37 yards... Is a pcp right for you? which would you pick? ua-cam.com/video/8UHlBAVWHJg/v-deo.html
It’s difficult to find ammo that is subsonic from the Gamo Magnum. It is, in fact, supersonic up to the 18.5 grain H&N Barracudas that work well in all of my other air rifles.
@@SilverSurvival If you were shooting 18.5 grain H&N's at super sonic velocities your rifle would be producing 50+ fpe. It's not. A Gamo Magnum is a 28 fpe rifle on a good day. Shoot it over a chrony and you'll find they're going at about 800 fps. That's still the second most powerful springer made though.
@SilverSurvival , us lefties really are for the most part an afterthought for air gun manufacturers. I've heard Air Arms does offer some lefthanded walnut stocks, but boy they are pricey, not that the Beeman/Weihrauch's aren't, but much more affordable than a lefthanded Air Arms
@@wccross4147 that’s the truth! I have some left handed rimfires, and a left handed Bergara in 6.5cr. I try to buy ambi air rifles when they are available.
Air Arms are superb air rifles . I have 2 ..both TX200’s ..177 and .22.. But both are heavy and cost prohibitive compared to Weihrauch ..no good in survival conditions as no AA springers are available ( here in the UK) with open sights ..they are scope only rifles
i would choose my crosman 1322 , with a few mods to make it even more accurate and powerful ,, my hatsan pro mod 125 .22 is a hell of a rifle to but it's big and heavy but it can take down a deer or a bear lolol
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its strange you said the Beeman wasn't loud but it was louder than all the others. Maybe it was closer to your Mic?
@@mannyfragoza9652 It was pretty much against the microphone when I’m shooting it. It’s quiet…but does need a lube-tune. I’ll be ordering some Tune in a Tube next week, to silence that spring a little bit.
@@SilverSurvival I did little research the Beeman is a really nice gun.Ill keep my eye out for one
@@mannyfragoza9652 Great choice!
Easy for me HW-35 had one for around 55 years still shoots like new. Thanks for the video and best wishes from the Uk.
Wow! 55 years? That’s a long time. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SilverSurvival Thank you for making very informative and interesting videos
@@larrybushman1 my pleasure!
Spot on video love my PCPs and my rimfires etc but when it comes down to survival my r9 or my hw50 in 22 is what I’ll rely on I wouldn’t trust much else below the weihrauchs for long term durability
Thanks for watching, and commenting! I too love my PCPs and my powder burners. If I had to pick up a tool for harvesting food, though, it’s a springer any day of the week. And I’m a serious fan of Weihrauchs. I loved my Dianas until I picked one of these up. I love them all, but this is the “horse for the course” when it comes to a survival air rifle.
You have chosen well sir, the Weihrauch HW95 as we know it here in the UK, is one of the best break barrel Air Rifles currently available, although my choice would be the Hw80k, I say that as an owner of one, all the best 👍
Thank you for watching and commenting. I love the HW80 as well. It was just missing the iron sights. I do like the sling points on the 80 though. I may have to buy one of those to add to my collection of these fine German air rifles!
I have used the hw 95 a few times both the older model and the later model. Each time was on a long day hunting trip.and they were both excellent performers, not one bad thing could i find with either rifle. With these hunting days still fresh in my mind i took one of my own hw 99s rifles on my next hunting day out, And i honestly could not find a thing any different with the 95s and my own 99s, ONLY the weight, but all three were good at the job they were intended for. Thanks to Weihrauch's attention to the detail engineered into each rifle they build.
Yep! I sure do love them. They are quite the machine. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Beeman R9 all day long. Even for not survival situations. The German quality is unbetable.
It sure is! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Modifying a 1358 stock at the moment, first Pcp and liking it so far. 🤘
When I sighted in my Beeman Mantis I could hardly believe the groups. But I saw it on paper. Amazing accuracy. Even at 45 yards.
@@peterbaugh51 yep. They sure are nice!
Not true, German quality definitely IS beatable.
Weihrauch make very nice rifles, my favourite go-to gun is my tuned 97, however the quality of a Factory Weihrauch is misleading, the blueing is good and the stocks look nice but the internals aren’t very well finished and need to be de burred. Springs don’t fit in guides, spring ends are left cropped and not finished, they twang and buzz because they don’t come ready tuned, they’re only 6/10 for quality.
If you want to see examples of air rifles who are significantly better engineered and built to much higher standards of quality, you want to look at Whiscombe Air Rifles and Spartan Air Rifles and Ripley Air Rifles - they are some of the best equipment know .
.22 Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 Multi-Pump. It has PCP accuracy, iron sights, variable power, self contained, not loud and has a threaded tip for a silencer. I really like mine.
I should have also stated great video topic and thank you for sharing. You’ve earned a new sub.
Going with the Gamo.
Crosman 1322
Meets all the criteria you mention, plus compact.
Hi, I have a collection of pcp’s and springers but my go to for would be either my vintage (1981) WEIHRAUCH HW80 or 1983 I WEIHRAUCH HW35e both completely original with open sights ( and original scopes) both .22 .both very quiet .just subbed (UK)
Very nice! I love to hear about the older air rifles still serving their owners well! Thanks for watching, commenting and the sub!
For me, I just got into air rifles this summer ☀️ and I'm hooked.. I haven't chot and air rifle in 30 years, and man, I didn't know that some of these break barrel air rifles was so powerful nowadays 😳.. I think I'm addicted to it ..😅 and mine does have iron sights. But I would say my 177 cal and 22 cal both have advantages and disadvantages but I would say that I would trust them both to get the job done ✔️ if needed be..
Yep. They sure have come a long way since my childhood. That’s for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I personally think airguns are amazing tools. I have pcps that are hand pumpable and break barrels. PCPs are fine for a shtf, but you’d definitely want something hand pump friendly.
Fair enough. I have a couple that aren’t bad. They’re 2,000 psi rifles, though.
Spring piston, less to go wrong, something with a simple trigger and maybe a smoothbore as sooner or later you'll be firing wood or clay projectiles or manufacturing darts.
Old Diana 27 or similar, take a bird or rabbit at 20 yards, when the piston seal goes you can wrap the piston with some plant fibre etc, light weight
Good points to think about. Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment! I really appreciate it.
I run an r9 with a 12ft lb vortex kit in .177 I have an hw95 in .22 and a quail gun Hw30 in 177. I have zero use for either Gamo , or crossman. I’ll stick with the hw line of guns. My favorite over all for out to 40 yards is my HW35E walnut stock in .22. I’ve take both squirrel and rabbit out to 40-50 yards without too much trouble.
I would go with the gamo, it’s lighter, has very good iron sight alignment, and has a synthetic stock, best for survival.
I like the Gamo as well. It is just too difficult to find pellets that don't go supersonic, for me. Thanks for watching, and the comment! I really appreciate it.
Our survival airgun needs to reliable and durable. I can't think of any machine more reliable and durable than a spring powered air rifle.
As you say, it should have iron sights. Scopes are great but they
can fail. A lifetime factory warantee is no good if the factory doesn't exist anymore.
They should be low maintenance and user serviceable.
Our springers can go many thousands of shots with just a few drops of oil every now and then.
I am not there yet but I think we should be able to reseal our airguns if need be. Reseal kits for the Crossman 1322 pistol and 140 and 692 rifle are available and not expensive.
To reseal a Springer is a bit more work but is doable if a fellow is the least bit handy.
In a survival situation I would have a box trap set around my property
every 100 yards or so for oppossums and raccoons. The best bait for therm is dry cat food or a rotten egg.
If there were beaver or nutria in my area i would trap them too. Canned corn is good bait for nutria. Beaver might like it too.
Traps hunt night and day. If things really go to crap, the day critters will be hunted out in a few months.
The night critters will still be around.
That's where your traps come in.
Box traps need to be hidden or people will steal them.
The heavy spring wire kill traps are easier to hide but may be illegal in some states. I have both kinds of traps . There is a learning curve to trapping. I suggest that you get started figuring it out.
I have a half a dozen Havahart traps and the same in kill traps.
Traps are expensive so it might be a good idea to learn to build your own traps.
I carry a Crossman 1322 pump up pistol in a shoulder holster when I check my traps.
The critter doesn't mind waiting while I pump up the gun.
I exceed the 10 pump limit when shooting big critters in my traps.
One pump per grain of pellet weight seems to work pretty well at six inches off the muzzle shooting through the top of the head.
Of course an air rifle will work fine if you don't mind being seen walking around with a long gun.
Thanks for the video.
@@johnndavis7647 100% agree with your comment. I’ll be doing a series on primitive trapping. I have 20 or so Dukes, some HaveAHearts and of course the normal snap traps. But I don’t rely on them. Learning a few snares, treddles, and windlass traps is always a good thing! I have a 1377 for this purpose and of course killing mice and other annoyance animals that can be easily over penetrated. It’s nice chatting with you.
@@SilverSurvival I have the Gamo Magnum 22 caliber 10x . Using a heavier pellet can slow the FPS down . Also the Gamo XTR in 25 caliber , both have iron sights .
Those gamo rifles don’t last and are over powered.
Trusty break barrel.
100% of the time, when it counts most, I've got to agree. The Beeman R9 is my new baseline, by which I'll judge all other air rifles. Perhaps I'll find another HW to ad to the collection... ;)
Have a Gamo in .177 & in 22 both have iron sights with scopes as well.
I have 2 Crossmans as well , one in .177 & 22 ,no iron sights , just scopes on them.
For survival make sure you have plenty of pellets as well , a minimum of 5,000 for each caliber .
When things go south it would be hard to find pellets that will work well with your chosen airguns.
It’s going to be impossible to buy pellets when things go south. I recommend a base of 2,000. Build from there, but never dip below that number. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@SilverSurvival I think sling shots would make a good backup tool when you runout of pellets.
They are stealthy quiet
Small pebbles can be found in most places.
One would need to stock up on the bands for sure , they do brake eventually.
Oh practice with it , I certainly need to do it.
A hand held or miniture cross bow would be handy as well.
The bolts costs money though, I’m cheap . LOL
Survive & live another day & May your belly always be full .
@@richardloo6572 absolutely. Slingshots are quite versatile.
Hard choice for me as I have many. Benjamin pump in 22 from the 1990’s. Self contained and works no matter what and relatively quiet. Brass never needs cleaning and doesn’t rust except for bolt and it’s nickel plated. I have Diana springers that I have taken game at 71 yds open sights. They will rust if not oiled or kept inside. Heavy too. The Benjamin 312, 342 or 392 would be the absolute best for reliability. Cooking oil will lube a pump cup and spares are kept with ammo. On the 312 a pump seal can be made from leather. These guns are still working and accurate 70+ years on now and make about 14 -18 ft lbs when tuned with good seals. For an extended stay in inclement weather, my Benjamin 342 made in Racine Wisconsin will be my choice. Takes down with one screw to be 22-1/2 inches long too.
I’m seeing a lot of pump guns in this thread. Good choice. Basically a single shot PCP. Easy to maintain, accurate and readily available parts. Thanks for your input and for watching. I appreciate it.
I bought a Crosman Storm (springer) 16 yrs ago from walmart for 85.00 bucks and was the only shooter I owned in my adult life, but I now own also a Beeman QB Chief which I love............. But the Crossman is my SHTF primary shooter.... But going back to your gamo magnum, to quiet it down below subsonic is to shoot heavier pellets, and usually pellets don't like fying over 900FPS anyway.
Marauder, 20 consistent shots on a fill, 2 magazines, no fumbling with pellets in the field, quiet. The pump wouldn’t be bad if I had to hump it. The probability of needing more than 20 shots per outing is lower than being able to take a follow up shot from miscalculating distance or more than one animal available.
Yep. I’ve hunted with my Marauder Field & Target. It gets 60 good shots per fill. It’s a trusted hunting rifle. Just not really ideal IMO for SHTF.
The R9 is a great gun. I may get one someday. For now I use the Beeman Mantis 10616 with silencer, upgraded scope, ammo pouch, cheek rest, counter weights, open sights, and strap, 9.2 lbs. 1,000 FPS with RWS Superdomes 8.3 grain lead pellets. 18.4 FPE muzzle. Grouping 0.3" @ 30 meters or 33 yards. 28 lb cocking effort. Length 49". Steel spring. I have three air guns with steel springs, none have failed. All of my pnumatic high pressure pump guns, PCP, whatever, have all failed and are trashed. Gas springs are going to fail, they have seals and high pressure. In the wilderness in survival mode, no one is going to fix your gas ram. But your steel spring power plant is probably going to work hot or cold, forever. My springs do not get weak when I leave them cocked. Another myth busted. The gun is so quiet I can take follow-up shots. The silencer is amazing. Thanks for the video and enjoy that R9!
Very nice! And informative. Thank you for watching and your comment.
Should've had the black bunker bm8 out there ,it's a true survival rifle. Folds ( break down ) compact.
You made a wise choice there, I have a Beeman R-7 which I really am good with, and if possible?, I'd like to try to get an HW-50s in .22...Because of my disabilities, a lighter air rifle works for me.
It’s great that there are so many option to fit everyone’s unique situation, in the airgun world! Thanks for watching and your comment.
Gamo 10x swarm fusion in 22 was my pick and I love it
R9 every time German build quality every time I’ve got a hw99s and 95k for that reason. Diana make some good affordable rifles too and German. I also pack a slingshot too
Yep! I carry a slingshot in my pack as well. Love the Dianas and love this Beeman! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@SilverSurvival you say about the stock there is aftermarket stocks for your r9.
@@philcann4672 I’ll check into that. I toyed with the idea of making a custom laminated stock for it. Buying one would be a lot easier! Lol
@@SilverSurvival there not cheap but they look good.
Yeah love the weirauch, got a hw80 and ahw77, both early 80s, and I have an old Diana mod50, also an early eighties example 😊
I could only have one I have a Crosman Optimus .22 Nitro piston is amazing light and compact and wood stock still light
Good choice. It checks all the boxes. Iron sights, springer, subsonic, easily maintained. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I'd stick with a springer with scope and Iron sights. Your Beeman is I believe the HW95 in Britain. Hermans ( HW)1st but your idea of a detuned Gamo is a good one.
The R9 is in fact an HW95 in a different package. Thanks for watching and commenting!
.25 Senica Eagle Claw using 27gr Benjamin pellets or 28gr FX slugs. 2.5x15x32 with red dot and front lazer. I have a pump and just ordered a compressor that uses 18 volt Makita batteries.
Just use a scope mount that lets you see through to the bottom iron sights, easy
For me it would have to be a Weihrauch HW80.
Very nice! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Winchester 1977xs or Crosman C362. Common and easy to work on. I also have a benji marauder .22 and hand pump.
Nice. I’ve seen a few who choose the 362. It’s basically the same design as the old 760 that I used as a kid, and the 1377 I use today. Thanks for watching and sharing!
Beeman R9, all day,
Perfect explanation according to the title given 👌👏👍🤣
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@SilverSurvival indeed the pleasure is mine.😀
hw 90, iron sights , best gas ram in the industry, and adjustable power. Rebuildable at home as well, Resettable safety good trigger scoopable
Very nice! Thank you for watching and sharing!
I would go with the Gamo it's light with synthetic stock and it's a springer treated right it will last a life time . I still have and use an El Gamo magnum from the 1970 ies in full working order .... A lovely gun to shoot .
I gifted my old Gamo whisper to a buddy. It was a very accurate rifle, and probably still is. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video! I'm getting my first springer soon and it's hard to choose. I need something that's great out of the box, built to last and about 300 dollars. The Beeman R9 is very nice but a tad too expensive. I just want a great all-round survival springer.
Cheers from Denmark
I understand your position, my friend. I’ll be doing this same process on a “budget friendly” option for a survival air rifle. I’m going to target $250 USD. Thank you for watching, your trust, and commenting. There are plenty of springers in your price range. Perhaps one of the RWS springers? All of mine are very nice and good shooters.
@@SilverSurvival that's sounds very good! I'll be looking forward to that video! The springer is the last piece I need for my "if the shit hits the fan" pack (and also just a great addition to my overall camping gear 😊).
And a back up pistol.🤠🇺🇸
Revolver, preferably...
I would take the Gamo, you can take larger game due to its power, the stock is not wood, making it more durable in bad weather, and it has a gas power plant. Use heavier ammo to reduce noice. Awesome video!
Thanks for watching and commenting. You make some good points.
I wish there were more offerings of self pumping PCPs. They are out there, but there aren’t a lot to choose from.
Good choice though. Bought a beeman years ago. It was my first air rifle. Tack driver. Loved it.
I’ve never seen a self pumping pcp. I love the Beeman. The quality is great! Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SilverSurvival Air Venturi came out with the Seneca aspen a few years back, and I remember FX having one, one of their earliest models. Guess it never took off because they never came out with an upgrade of the model.
Cheers 🍻
@@bluewater454 interesting. I’d love a completely self contained PCP.
The only survival role that I would see for an airgun would be for small game hunting and target practice in a long term static position. For that I would want a rifle that could be maintained and repaired indefinitely and is accurate and powerful enough for hunting and quiet enough to use unnoticed. If you're bugging out, then you could better use the space for something else.
I'd nix the Crosman and the Gamo because of their gas rams and Gamo also because of their lack of replacement parts.
The Marauder and the R9 can both be easily fixed and so can a handpump for the Marauder. In a lot of ways PCP's are actually easier and cheaper to fix than springers. A ziplock baggie full of O-rings and a tube of silicone grease is about all you need to keep one running indefinitely, but then an extra spring and a few extra seals will keep the R9 going long term as well.
The lack of iron sights wouldn't bother me at all. Just put aside an extra scope and all's well. It's not like it's a combat weapon where if your optic fails you absolutely need an immediate replacement. If the scope on your airgun fails you might have to wait an extra hour to shoot pigeons.
Everybody has different requirements, and as you have stated quite well, there are options to fill every need!
I have 11 rifles and 5 are Weihrauch my bug out is a HW99s, accurate and light. its a sub12 (UK)
Very nice! I appreciate the lower fpe rifles. I prefer that to faster rifles. Thanks for watching and the comment.
I have a number of rifles, but my go to survival rifles are hw80 ( beeman r1) and hw 77, both are early 1980 models and although heavy, I wouldn't trust anything else 😊
Very nice choices. Thanks for watching and sharing!
the sheridan c air rifle mine from 1970 a sweet air rifle ,20 cal 670 fps. second choice a daisy 880 mine from 1974 700 fps .177 cal both air rifles my top choices.
Hard to argue your points. Also a low report is nice. I only have Grandpa's 30-30 and everything else us Air driven.
I like the guys comment about having a hand gun around. The accational vermit or just a fast get it and go.
Ohhh I use Blue locktight on all my guns.
I still have some scope creap going on that needs to be delt with on a Umarex. Ill look through nore videos and see if im mounting correct.
Love the old 30-30. I had an old top eject model 94, when I was a kid. I do most of my hunting now with archery and air rifles. Blue Locktite is mandatory on action screws. It’s just not worth it not to do at least that much. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I am in the North East of England and the laws are different to the US : . But my Air Weapon of choice would be my old Webley Beeman Excel 22 Carbine . Because it is short and easy to use with it's standard open sites , also break barrel and easy to maintain . Easy to take the Scope on and off in the field if necessary . But I have got all sorts of Traditional and Pneumatic Air Weapons , and still I may take this one . Barry . Noth East of England . 🏍️ .
Great choice!
I can run my pump from solar. I can carry a backup firemans tank of air and that will last me a good while on a hunt. i'd only use the break barrel for bare minimum stuff personally.
Great comment. 👍🏼
Gamo roadster or speedster in 22 10 shot magazine for quick follow up shots and easy to maintain and accurate
Thank you for watching, and sharing your selection and reasoning.
i would have a 22 springer or multi pumper'.i do have a crosman 362 and hatsan 95 springer.
Very nice! Thank you for watching and commenting!
I have a Gamo and it works but the Benjamin multi pump I had was much better. It was very accurate whereas the Gamo is not as consistent.
I have chosen to take the senca dragonfly mk2 22 cal man you to try it nice video and review
Thank you! And thanks for watching.
Umarex is coming with an under level break barrel air rifle this October. Can't wait to see the reviews on it. I believe the price may be under $200.
Good to know. I’ll have to do a review on it when it’s released. Thanks for watching and commenting.
With great respect, Sir, I'm not sure I could get excited about a 200 dollar spring piston air rifle. As the sayings go,
Buy cheap, buy twice, and you get what you pay for. I'd sooner save and go for Weirhauch or Air Arms, and then just sit back and enjoy their quality, craftsmanship, materials, accuracy, fine machining tolerances, etc.
@@ianwoods1384 I agree with you. There is certainly a lot to be said about spending more and getting more. In fact, I’d say that the higher end air rifles are a much better value. However, many people just can’t afford to spend that much money, but still want to be able to feed their families if things go sideways. We all have a different reality. When I bought the Benjamin Trail NP, it’s what I could afford, and with a little work and a small bearing for a RC car, I improved the trigger tremendously. That rifle has put a lot of food on my table over the years. My Dianas have since taken its place in the woods, and now the Beeman will take the Dianas place. I honestly can’t wait to get my hands on another fine German air rifle!
@SilverSurvival
Hello Sir,
Thank you for your reply, and yes, you talk a lot of sense. Buying what you can afford and improving it, I would find worthwhile, a challenge, and very exciting and satisfying.
May I ask you, please? Have you ever owned a Diana Original Model 35? My much loved late father left one in .177 and one in .22 calibre for me.
Funnily enough, I did what you've just written about. They were rough, and I overhauled them. I cleaned them all up. I polished the piston and replaced the piston and breech seals. I made a top hat for them and sleeved the spring guide and inside the piston.
They both shot fantastic afterwards, with no twang, and I'm so glad I did what I did. In memory of dad, it was very satisfying, thank you.
UMAREX SYNERGIS ELITE .22 you can watche the video from ((off the shelf airguns)) I've been thinking about buying it myself.
Survival air rifle
One that's VERY durable, reasonably accurate, and powerful enough to take small game.
So, to begin with, no Chinese built junk.
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My top choices / small game / .177 caliber
FWB-124D
Beeman(Webley & Scott) C1
Beeman R1 / R9 / etc any of the Weihrauch "R" Beeman rifles
Diana 34 / 36 / 38 / 45 / etc
For larger pests or small game at greater range / .22 caliber
Beeman RX2
Beeman(Webley & Scott) Kodiak
Diana 350 Magnum
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And that's also a bit less, but useful
Benjamin 392 - prefer the old wood stock one.
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.177 vs .22
GENERALLY i recommend .177 for air rifles that deliver under 20ft lbs of muzzle energy, over 20ft lbs .22
It has to do with pellet selection(variety) to match the power of the rifle. AND, Air rifles tend to perform best(combination of accuracy and a nice flat trajectory out to their useful limit) when you keep the MV between 800 and 900fps you do that by matching pellet weight to the power of your rifle.
I’m trying to go through all of my requirements without missing anything.
First, make a list of the wildlife, that you have easy access to, and are willing to harvest. Assess your area for a normal expected range of engagement. Decide what’s important to you. (For me, it has to work whether the scope ceases to function, and without any supporting gear, and it has to be sub sonic, and reliable). That’s a decent start. Each persons list will determine what they need.
Crosman c362 .22 cal and with 10 pumps it’s over 700fps, and at 15 pumps it’s very 800fps. Proven and highly modifiable 1322/1377 platform. Easy to reseal and o rings are cheap and can be shoved in the buttstock. Best of all it has .22cal power vs a tiny .177.
And the crosman C362 is only $110. Crosman even makes a PCP version of this rifle too for $150
@@patrickpendergast898 nice. I have a 1377, that is mainly for pest control, where I seriously need to regulate the power, to avoid over penetration into my buildings. Thanks for watching g and sharing!
@@patrickpendergast898 Thanks. I’ll look into it.
I wouldn't count on a PCP as a 'survival" choice.... too many valves, regulators etc. required to make it work that can go wrong. In the field there's no electricity so that eliminates the compressor so it would require a manual HP pump, another link in the chain that if it fails renders the gun useless. My preference is for a quality break barrel springer. Simple to maintain with minimal moving parts .
Thanks for watching and commenting! I agree, for all the reasons you’ve stated. I do understand why people choose PCP though.
@@SilverSurvival I like PCPs too, they're easy to shoot, usually quite accurate and if you have a compressor, easy to recharge,,, but it's like using a nice pair of loafers as hiking shoes, when it comes to an actual survival situation, you want the right gear for the job.
@@BoggWeasel that’s the truth! Good analogy!
Steel Springer 😊.
I would add that in second place to my Benjamin 342 in .22 for those who may not know the Benjamin pump rifles that end in 2 are 22 and the models that end in 7 are 177. I have a HW97 and an Air Arms TX200 and a lot of Diana 34's in 22 and 177 as well as 48's in both too. The Diana 34 would be a strong candidate for 2nd as well as my Hatsan 125's in 22 and 25 caliber, Their power is too much to ignore and I have shot one in 22 many thousands of shots and it's still incredible. Too heavy for survival on the move but if it was all I had I would use it! The Hatsan 125's are sufficient to take medium sized game with close head shots. Anyway I see some people choosing pcp's. If you are stationary absolutely. I'd grab a big Texan and my 22 FX Verminator and Boss .30 in a second but are we moving? Not sure where we are going? Running for our lives? A LOT of situations come under the heading Survival. If I'm traveling, I still say, My Benjamin 342 with 16 and 19 gr pellets and round balls. Round balls are better for penetration and are easy to load in the dark and,, with pumpers you can use fewer pumps and not overpenetrate like in a house or camper! I speak from experience. I even shoot q tips in them to take out wasps and spiders. The pumpers will have a place in my safe as long as I shoot as well as being my first choice as a gun that's always loaded and pumped ready to go with the striker uncocked so it's safe to leave fully pressurized like any other pcp.
Also if you are traveling you will be restricted where you can walk with ANY RIFLE or gun that can't be concealed. My Verminator in .22 shoots 16 grain pellets 1050 fps and 750 fps and 29 gr slugs 720 fps and takes down to 16 inches. Shoots 200 shots per fill. Reassembled it does 120. 14 shot magazines it's my favorite BUT it needs a bottle or a compressor, Not feasible if moving. Otherwise it's my go to gun so I will say NO 1 Choice for pcp because common adequate caliber, I have quick detach sights on a rail and it's super accurate. I have lots of choices. It would be hard to choose depending on the situation
Would you say the Beeman r7 is a solid pick also. I like the fact its a little lighter!
I don’t know. I’m sure it’s a fine rifle. I don’t own an R7.
Mine is Benjamin trail coz I'm used to it 🙂👊
There’s nothing wrong with a good shooting Benjamin Trail. As I’ve mentioned, I’ve taken a lot of game with mine. Thanks for watching and sharing!
Benjamin 392 for me. Good rifle for the money. My next choice is the Sheridan Blue Streak.
I remember Sheridan from way back. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Game shadow whisper .177 built in suppressor tho it may be sub sonic it’s a great rifle
Do you want to tell me that a break barrel rifle is shooting a projectile in excess of 1,125 fps?
I haven’t actually chronied it. It has the snap of a supersonic projectile. Whether that’s the pellet, or the gas ram noise, it’s too loud.
The SMK Victory CP2 CO2, .22 Rifle/Pistol combo (with supplied silencer) is super light weight & breaks down to "Backpack" size with removable stock. OK, so only around 8.5 Ft/Lbs energy with the long Rifle barrel (I'm UK, Sub 12, which is still easily enough for small game up to 30 yards) Fitted with a cheap, very cheap "WULF" 2 to 7 X32 AO Mildot scope, or Iron sights. Just need a few, 12 gram, CO2 cartridges in said Backpack !! + Would you be too bothered about possibly, wounding & chasing down bigger, small game - In a "Survival" situation ? (We're not talking about bringing down Wildebeest here)
Very nice. It doesn’t take much energy. I killed many squirrels and rabbits and a couple of ground hogs with my Daisy Red Ryder BB gun when I was a child. I treat every kill as if it’s important. Whether it’s a deer or a turtle. It’s a life that I’m taking to feed me. The problem is t chasing them down. The problem is that if I take a low probability shot, hit the animal poorly, and it drops down into a hollow tree to die. None of us want that. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@SilverSurvival Agree whole heartedly buddy. but you're talking Survival. not a picnic in the woods and would very likely, still take the shot !!
What did you mean by "American style comb"?
Great comparison video.
American vs European (Luxe) combs. American combs are higher to accommodate a scope. European style stocks are swept downward to accommodate a good cheek weld when looking at the iron sights.
@@SilverSurvival thanks for taking the time to explain!
If i'm on foot Daisy 901 with a moderator, Break barrels are to heavy.
A pump will feed you all day long! Heck, back in the day I had a pumpmaster 760 that took many squirrels and rabbits!
I have two thoughts which depend on the size game you are hunting.
The first is a .457 Texan with 147 grain round ball (fire cast - old school) using wheel weights. Filling time is approx 3.5 minutes for a 60 year old man to pump the rifle with a hand pump. This load produces just short of 300 fpe (38 special hand gun power). If you have more time you can use heavier projectiles and more air pressure and make 650fpe or more (10 mm hand gun power). The Texan .457 rifle has taken black bear without issue. The round ball load is just an easy lower power option that's not too rough on the user.
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The other is a .177 that provides over 100 shots and groups smaller than a golf ball at 37 yards.
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.177 PCP vs a .22 cal mag springer at 37 yards... Is a pcp right for you? which would you pick?
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multipump with iron sights
I had a Benjamin trail np xl , it was an absolute pile of junk that fell apart
I have the thumbhole air rifle..i hate that it's has no iron sights...is it possible to have sights installed..
You’re talking about the Trail NP? I’m not aware of a way to add iron sights. Thanks for watching and your comment! I appreciate it.
Harsan edge .25 only $40. and light weight
Hassan mod 95 .25 cal w/H&N Hornets
I had a 25 once. I had a hard time keeping enough pellets for it. It sire did a number on the bunnies though! Thank you for watching and the comment.
Crosman 362.
I don’t know much about that gun. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SilverSurvival Yeah a multi- pumper , also self contained , shoot pump repeat .
💯 right
I only have a Ruger Blackhawk. 177...
I’m amazed by the wide range of air rifles that people have listed! Thank you for watching and sharing.
@@SilverSurvival it is dependable, 12 or more years old
Test it, for hunting
It has 16 joules
I think it will grow on you
$600-700 break barrel air rifle is a little too much, have to pass on the Beeman r9.
I agree that it’s a lot of money for a break barrel. But it will last a lifetime if cared for. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Beeman Mantis 10616 $129. $160 list. If you can still get it.
Simple - my beloved HW77K SE forest laminate stocked, in .177. Shoots 10.65 grn pellets at 11.69ft/lb (UK spec), total tack driver😁
Nice choice! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Cheers brother😀
HW 100s pcp
Very nice! Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it.
For me my hatsan 95 is king
Very nice. Thanks for watching and commenting!
🤣 you’re talking crap about the Gamo and sub sonic. An airgun never passes speed of sound with the right ammo
It’s difficult to find ammo that is subsonic from the Gamo Magnum. It is, in fact, supersonic up to the 18.5 grain H&N Barracudas that work well in all of my other air rifles.
@@SilverSurvival If you were shooting 18.5 grain H&N's at super sonic velocities your rifle would be producing 50+ fpe. It's not. A Gamo Magnum is a 28 fpe rifle on a good day. Shoot it over a chrony and you'll find they're going at about 800 fps. That's still the second most powerful springer made though.
@@SilverSurvival I'll bet that Magnum is a bear to cock!
Not as good as my TX200 mk3
Maybe not, but the TX200 doesn’t meet my requirement for iron sights. Nice rifle though! I’ll buy one once Pyramidair gets left handed models in.
I have owned 2 Air Arms TX200 HC's and I found both to be more hold sensitive than weihrauch's which is why I no longer have them.
Too Loud by far AAms prosport will be far better and the build quality is way superior
I haven’t seen an Air Arms yet. When I went to order one, nobody had a left handed model. Thanks for watching and the comment.
@SilverSurvival , us lefties really are for the most part an afterthought for air gun manufacturers. I've heard Air Arms does offer some lefthanded walnut stocks, but boy they are pricey, not that the Beeman/Weihrauch's aren't, but much more affordable than a lefthanded Air Arms
@@wccross4147 that’s the truth! I have some left handed rimfires, and a left handed Bergara in 6.5cr. I try to buy ambi air rifles when they are available.
Air Arms are superb air rifles . I have 2 ..both TX200’s ..177 and .22.. But both are heavy and cost prohibitive compared to Weihrauch ..no good in survival conditions as no AA springers are available ( here in the UK) with open sights ..they are scope only rifles
@@alanvaughan4143 I noticed that, even on the HWs, you have to be careful that you’re buying something that fills your requirements.
i would choose my crosman 1322 , with a few mods to make it even more accurate and powerful ,, my hatsan pro mod 125 .22 is a hell of a rifle to but it's big and heavy but it can take down a deer or a bear lolol
WOAH! @ ua-cam.com/video/W5rUiKsuVuM/v-deo.html you must have a systems engineering background!! (use case & requirements)...I didn't expect that 🙂
Project Management and Business Analysis background. Thanks for watching!