So, I Gave the S&W CSX Another Try
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2022
- In this episode of Gun Stock Reviews we give the Smith and Wesson CSX another try and we were surprised.
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I bought one a few months ago even after hearing all the negative reviews from everywhere. I was extremely happy with it and have had no issues with mine! It's become my primary carry gun.
That is good, you buy what you like...
I bought a CSX last month as well. The gun had horrible reviews from so many people around UA-cam. After I checked one out in person at the gun counter I was sold on it though. The trigger wasn't as good as it should be for a single action but that was fixed by polishing the sear hammer and the trigger bar. I have had no issues with this gun it shoots like a dream compared to my hellcat. The slide requires much less force to operate like a s&w EZ pistol and the metal frame seems to soak up the recoil much better than my hellcat. It is no where near as snappy as my hellcat. I will probably upgrade to tritium sights and just use the CSX for my EDC. I have had no false reset issues after going through and doing the trigger job either. If s&w would put a rail and an optics cut on the CSX and do a better job on the trigger assembly and offer maybe a 15 round magazine for them I think they would sell like crazy.
@@jeremypike9153 They should work hard at making this pistol better so you don't have to polish anything!!
@@yrsued everything is built to a price point sadly. Taurus is known for an absolutely horrible single action trigger on their 1911. I think the cost of the gun would go up beyond it being an affordable option if they were to put better quality components in the trigger assembly or paid employees to polish all of it. There are a lot of pistols that can be so much better than what they were built to be. The trigger on my hellcat or my buddy's shield plus aren't ideal either but aftermarket options are out there to fix them. The CSX is at the same price point new but they also come with an accessory rail and can be gotten with optics cuts.
@@jeremypike9153 I know that, but for the price point, it's a hard pistol to work on, OTOH, the 1911 has tons of great drop in parts that you can do yourself.
As the pistol breaks in, so too the shooter becomes used to the pistol. "Break - in" is a two way street.
Fantastic comment! I never seen anybody say it's a "two-way street" as far as breaking in a gun.
@@hondasaurusrex6998 👍
Yes, but this is also my second try with this pistol and a totally different pistol too, I still don't like the double reset, but my experience was so much better with this one!!
@@hondasaurusrex6998 Breaking in a gun and getting used to a gun are two different things. I changed my mind because this pistol I used worked and felt much better than the first one!! That happens a lot!!
@gae I agree with you 110%, S&W should revisit this pistol. There are some issues that you highlighted here and if S&W revisits the pistol and fixes the issues, perfect!!
I picked one up, and the 12 round mag fed great. The 10 round mag wouldn't lock in place. I contacted S&W and they sent me a replacement mag. This one works fine. Thanks for the video and thanks to S&W for their prompt resolution.
One thing that has kept S&W going is their superb Customer Service.
I got one in June 2022. The CSX has become my favorite handgun. The weight absorbs any recoil, and it is easy to shoot accurately. I love this hun!
Hey, if you like it and it works good for you, you found your perfect pistol, THAT is what you want!!
I bought mine in April 2023. No double reset at all. Accuracy is spot on (I did drift the rear sight to the right a little to center the 10 yard groups). It works best to insert a full mag with the slide back. Chambering a round that way is trouble free. I was shooting at a dueling tree with 6" plates at ten yards and hit every time. It's a keeper for its intended purpose.
You are lucky, I think they finally tackled that double reset issue, yes, it was VERY annoying!! It is a good shooter, the second one I tested was so much more accurate!!!
They fixed it
Excellent carry gun! I’ve put hundreds of rounds through it without a single issue. I love this gun.
That is good!!
Hopefully S&W can improve it with a 2nd Gen.
I think they will continue to work on this pistol, it is very popular. Red Dot, we need a Red Dot on it!!
the new batch with a white firing pin stop in the slide doesn’t have the false reset… most of the mags with issues are because from the factory the spring wasn’t attached to the follower.
Thanks for the info, I hope they do a recall or offer a free upgrade to all the first adopters!!
Some really visible TruGlo Pro Tritium sights would be helpful. An aftermarket trigger mod and a better selection of holsters for carry conceal would be nice.
A little more refining of the design by S&W please. Maybe a gen2.
It does need some design work!!
My favorite gun!! It has amazing build quality!!
It is, some had issues...
I’m really thinking about getting one of these and have done a ton of research on it. Check the plunger for the firing pin block. Early models had a black one, and it made the “false reset” worse because S&W didn’t chamfer the edges. So that’s what you are feeling. Newer models have a white plastic plunger that is chamfered. You can check this in the gun store before purchasing by locking the slide back and looking for the button. The plungers are easy to smooth out, and will do so after repeated dry fire.
The other thing to look for is bad magazines, since many guns were shipping with improperly assembled mags. The spring should go through a hole in the follower on these. That may have been a problem with the mag not feeding the round right, but it typically causes other issues.
Overall I’m impressed with many of the design choices S&W made with the CSX, but there are a few places where there’s room for improvement. Many of those choices were to make it carry easier or more safely.
I'm glad you're on top of it. Good information.
@@atsra659 If you want something small from S&W, get the Shield Plus!!
I picked one up a couple weeks ago, I have no issues with it. I like the size, I do not notice a double reset and find the size of the safety acceptable. I did buy a meprolight front night sight for it and plan to black out the dots on the rear sight when I install it. The only negative I have is the lack of holsters available for it.
This is a matter of taste, all firearms are. I found it more useful the second time I tried it, but still not my choice as a primary EDC, I like something bigger.
I bought this pistol after telling my armorer how I had been trained in the army, and what I expected. I loved it from the start, I can understand why people dislike this gun, but it is one that my suits my style of shooting. The thumb safety is something that I especially appreciate, the safety has to be removed, which makes it clear I intend to use it and fire it in self defense. I understand others may want an easy fire gun for self defense but in training a safety makes little difference.
All that matters is that you like it and other people's opinions should be meaningless to you. You are happy with it.
They all had a thumb safety before Glock became a thing
@@T_81535 Yes they all did
Just put 75 through mine, loved every shot. Putting them through the same hole at 7 yards. No issue with 10 rounder, after it broke in, no issued. Trigger starting to smooth out.
It is not a bad pistol, I just didn't like it the first time around, but it grew on me. But still doesn't fit my hand the way I would like it to..
I just bought one of these a week ago. I ran into problems trying (and failing) to take it down for cleaning/lubing. I’m used to a 1911, so I tried disassembling it as a traditional 1911…of course the half-moon cutout is at the pin, and not the locking tab. Nonetheless, I sprayed it down with Shooters Lube cleaner, ran a bore cleaner a few times, then lubed it where I could reach. Poor, poor job. I shot it anyway. Not a single hiccup. Both magazines shot well, appears to shoot a bit high and left for me. I’ll need to shoot it several hundred more rounds to get used to the sights. I needed to aim a bit lower than my normal…but, yeah, I really like it. Need to adjust to the trigger safety, but when I didn’t give it a thought it shot great. When I tried to aim for accuracy I noticed the reset a lot more. I understand that the gritty reset smooths out after about 500 rounds. No where close to that as yet.
This is a pistol that doesn't exactly fit everyone's hand, that is for sure!! I shot it much better with the second pistol I shot. Remember, this is NOT the same pistol I shot the first time. IT still had that wonky reset though!! I hope they fix that!!
They changed the firing pin safety on the slide to nylon to fix the reset
Aaaah, I need to look into that
Interesting, have been considering one since it came out.
This is my second try at this pistol, my opinions changed quite a bit!!
I love mine. It is accurate. More so than my APX (s), ruger, etc. it also eats all the ammo I throw at it. A rounds I got from ammoUSA +P, will not feed in any 9mm carbine or pistol I own, expect the CSX and APX. Basically the whole package I think is awesome. 1911 doesn't have a trigger saftely, but has a big-ole heavy grip safety... why does everyone making this comparison for get that?
Because S&W made it this way, that is where the comparisons come in, the trigger safety and the thumb safety are the same as the grip safety and the thumb safety. One too many. but lawyers make guns now!!
Mine had a false trigger reset at the beginning but I tried to train around it. I've put hundreds of rounds through it now but when I tried to explain the false reset to my buddy we couldn't get it to do it. Maybe using it a lot improved it somehow but it doesn't have a false trigger reset anymore.
I heard that, I didn’t used this one enough to get to that point.
This pistol work for me very well in all the ways: excellent a little and power gun!!!
Not a bad pistol, it just doesn't fit my hands well!!
I was concerned about the negative reviews the CSX has received. I've enjoyed my Kimber 1911 and CZ SP01, and wanted a 9mm carry gun. Nonetheless, I looked at a CSX at a local gun shop and ended up buying it and am very happy with my purchase. I have large hands, but switched out the larger grip for the smaller to accommodate my wife smaller hands, and I have no problems with the feel of it. It still fits my hand well and like your pistol in the video, I have found it to be very accurate. A micro 9 that holds 12 rounds is a strong competitor and a great carry gun. I like it so much I intend to purchase a second CSX. I found that the criticisms about the gun's reset and safety are not an issue for me personally and are subjective.
All that matters is that you like it!!
Nice review. Sometimes we just get something on what could be a person responsibles off day.
This is my second try at this pistol, this is also a totally different pistol, I like it much better now!!
Some people will like and some won't. It's like Ford and Chevrolet. Folks like what they like. I have one and it a great weapon. Whatever you have remember to practice. 🤠
It is all a matter of taste!!
I love the csx.
It is a good pistol, it just didn't fit my hand well.
Love this thing (but I also love 1911’s). I had 1 malfunction in about 1k rounds - a double feed. If you get out there and train the reset isn’t an issue. I may get some trigger work done on it but not in a rush. S&w should do a gen 2 fix the trigger and offer a rail and an optic cut. But I also love it just the way it is with iron sights
If you like it, that is all that counts, don't let any of us change your mind. My needs and tastes are totally different and they do change
Nice video. I handled an example that had a pronounced click false reset. I shoot to reset, so that concerned me. The example I ended up with isn’t smooth but has kind of a hump, but no click in the reset stroke. I ran about 400 rounds the first day and I found myself on the true reset naturally, every time. For me it fits my hand well, and I’m used to 1911 manual or arms. That said, I hope a performance center version is coming. A tuned trigger, trijicons, maybe optic cut…
I agree on everything. They need to tune this one up just a wee bit and it will be fine!! It DOES need an Optics Cut and options for Night Sights. I'm a HUGE Trijicon/Ameriglo fan, I would love ANYTHING from them on this pistol!!
@@yrsued Agreed. Trijicon and a tuned trigger would be great. On a gun this size I personally wouldn’t choose an optic, but it would be good to have the option for people with aging eyes worse than mine, or who just have a different personal preference. Really, I’d love to have a Wilson sfx9 in the 3.25 and micro frame, but that’s a lot of coin.
@@JeffinTD YUP, I tested the SFX, great pistol, but EXPENSIVE!! And I know all about the old eyes!! This getting old is not for wusses!!
@@yrsued For sure, though I don’t know how old parts of my eyes are…. Partial cornea transplants.
@@JeffinTD Well, this getting old shit is not for wusses!!
Nice gun Ilikeit good revew from PR🇵🇷👍
Saludos desde Arizona!!
Or call it breaking it in.
I tried two different pistols!! So, no. The first one was a range pistol, this one belongs to a friend!!
I would argue that it's imperative to be picky When selecting something that you are going to potentially use to defend your life or the life of your loved ones... your defensive Firearms should be everything that you want in a gun and none of the extras or BS that can slow you down or throw you off
I couldn't agree more!!
Personally, I’m glad so many gave the CSX the thumbs down as they clearly didn’t give it enough time. After about 200 rounds, the trigger opens up and becomes totally shootable. Proof that you shouldn’t believe everything you see and hear. It’s a great gun!
Great?? No, NOT Great. At least for me, but that is FOR ME!! It is a good gun. I like it more now, with this second Range Time. But... This is NOT the same pistol I shot the first time. This is a completely Different pistol.
I still don't like the Double Reset. I don't understand it. I heard S&W did a fix for it, if that is true, then there was an issue. S&W doesn't do fixes if there is no problem.
@@yrsued No, I get it. Apparently my CSX incorporates the changes S&W has made with the design. I am fortunate to not encounter the false reset that many have complained of. So called, your results may vary, right?
@@ssn711 Ya, I guess they addressed the issue, they should offer the upgrade to all that purchased the Pistol, the two I tested presented with the issue!!.
I might have considered the CSX if it used the same magazines as the Shield Plus but I don't see the purpose of this pistol especially since the Shield is a better shooter.
Ya, that was another issue for some folks.
No issues with mine
I take your word for it!!!
*Pulls the slide by the TOP of the gun, not back far enough or release it fast enough*
"whoop, failure to feed!"
no, no, you just don't know how to rack a gun properly, That's a failure of operator head space.
Agreed.
i think ppl want this gun to work.
I would say that. It does work, I just don't like the way it fits my hand and the double Reset is weird!!
I’m seeing user induced issues with the initial FTF
I don't think so, this is NOT my first Rodeo, it didn't feed!! Rack the slide back a release, it is supposed to feed with a full mag.
OTOH, it could be a mag issue, I have seen that happen before, just a tight spring that needs breaking in!! Mec-Gar suggests you do Break In. I have done many T&E's for Mec-Gar and the instructions are simple!!
@@yrsued have you seen the videos talking about the springs in some of the magazines being installed improperly from the factory? That may be the issue.
@@lennylemens No, I have not, but Mec-Gar, who most likely makes these mags and it's the Wolds largest Magazine manufacturer recommends a procedure to Break In Magazines. I think this can help the process.
I've watched all kinds these videos, dad took me hunting at ten gave me a rifle, taught me safety, then hand guns, these videos and guys just wanting exposure!!!
HUH?? You lost me there in the middle of the story... Your point is?
Failure to feed was because you babied the slide. Same thing happens with a lever action rifle or a 1911. You can't be afraid to be aggressive with it.
I don't baby anything, Pull back from the top and release!! It only happened once on this pistol, this is the first time it ever happened on any of these I tested and I tested three of them!!
I was turning off by everyone reviews about the false reset. I finally bought one after a year since it is the only affordable small external hammer fired double stack carry gun on the market. Evidently I don’t ride the trigger down when using real ammunition, so the false reset is not a issue. No problem with the safety since the fire positioning is perfect. Don’t care about how small the safety is on making it safe. My only issue is the SAO trigger should be 4 pounds with frame safety, trigger safety, hammer and my finger safety. I can’t afford a $2k to $3k hammer fired gun. The CSX is accurate where my Shield was never close to accurate even after a APEX trigger and sight upgrades. For me this is the best gun I will carry that is under $1400.
If you're happy with it, what can I say?? You like it!! THAT is all that matters!!
I've been in combat and never shot to reset.
And?? We train at Gunsite to Reset, that is how I train!!
Best Handguns are made in Germany,Austria or Switzerland..due to supiriour Materials,and Craftmanship..🤔🇩🇪🇦🇹🇨🇭
We make good guns in the US, but you're missing Croatia, the HS Pistols made for Springfield are GREAT!!
@@yrsued Sir..i am talking about the Best
.Top.Notch...shure..Czech,Belgium,ex yugoslavia,Russia,italy...also making good guns...the german spoken countrys are the best..its historical and traditional and of Ethical reasons..🤔
@@ricksworlddereaux2397 I only wish HK wouldn't Hate the Commercial Customers and made less complicated firearms!! SI P226's are the BEST Pistols ever made.
The trigger reset issue is based on UA-camrs treating it like a competition gun.
I don't care what other people say on this or any other platform. I was trained at Gunsite to Ride the Reset!! And trust me, Gunsite has NOTHING to do with competition, unless you consider getting out of a Gunfight Alive a competition. If this didn't have a Double Reset, they wouldn't have fixed it, would they?
Learn to load
Load what??
Never under sotto why anyone make a review in an active range. Very annoying.
Couple of reasons:
#1, The safest place to shoot, is THE SHOOTING RANGE
#2, I can't afford to buy the whole range for half a day
#3, My neighbors might get pissed if I shoot in my back yard
Under SOTTO?? Check your spelling before you post....
Sorry about the typo - off day maybe. Understand the range part and the backyard part however the noise factor is still annoying when you're trying to access a gun from a video. It is what it was.
That being said, I sold a Sig P 938 and was hoping the CSX would replace it as I like the compact 1911 platform, hammer fired, ambi thump safety and Hi capacity of it. Decided to hold off for possibly a Gen 2 with a few of the unfavorable items addressed and an optics cut slide. If that doesn't materialize - well I guess that's my loss and I'll stick with my other couple EDC guns. Ruger LCP Max, Shield +, and Mossberg MC2sc, and a Sig P 238 all of which I think are fine guns and frequently alternated.
Cheers.