I have had my 2022 Pro S RWD, for over 15 months and 50k miles and also never had a fanton brake. It also works great on city roads. In my 2020 M3 SR+, I had many issues with the fanton brake. Also the lane keep assist on the ID.4 works better in the rain.
My 2020 SR+ has improved with OTA updates and phantom braking has been reduced. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe, we have plenty more VW and Tesla content coming!
You can enable a feature from the ACC menu to have it slowdown on tighter bends on country roads. The TravelAssist can’t keep with the bends but at least you can have the ACC on. I use it almost daily on my commute, where I set the ACC to 70kph and it will then slowdown 5-15 kph on certain bends.
@@BUNKERPT yes it is and it’s been a feature on some vw models for few years. I don’t know the English wording for the switch, but roughly translated it’s “predict the way of the road”.
Yeah, for real. It’s a 2020 model (built in December 2019) before they added acoustic glass and more absorbent interior materials. Still drives like a dream! Our ID.4 is much more quiet. Thanks for watching!!
Yes, very much so. However, mine is a 2020 Model 3 and I know the newer ones are quieter. I doubt it’s as quiet as the ID.4 though. I’ll soon be renting a Model Y to test and that will be the best and most interesting comparison. Thanks for watching.
Interesting. Travaled over 6000 Miles in my 2023 Model Y and not even onve had a Phantom Brake. My Brother in his 2021 Model 3 had in about 50.000 Miles a few from which nearly all we than could point to specific Signallights in Tunnels which the Tesla misinterpreted as a Motorcycle backlight. They did fix that with a update tough. One time a Bicycle without Rider standed a little bit in a Crosssection behind a Car and it saw it late an braked hard. But i wouldn't really call that a Phantombrake. So real Phantombrakes where out of nowhere he had maybe 5 in 50.000 Miles. I wonder why some people seems to has much more.
Great question. I just had the first phantom brake yesterday that I have had in months and months. In recent years, for me anyway, it’s very rare but it does occur.
In most cases, "phantom braking" is just the car trying to do the speed limit (it automatically reads speed limit signs). You can disable that with the latest software, which should eliminate any "phantom" slowing down. Tesla has three backup cameras. I use those for cross-traffic checking. Yes, Autopilot needs a "suspend" mode. You do not need to apply torque to the steering wheel, just touch one of the buttons on the steering wheel. I increase/decrease the volume.
The Tesla owner's manual says ""Traffic-Aware Cruise Control may react to vehicles or objects that either do not exist, or are not in your lane of travel, causing Model 3 to slow down unnecessarily or inappropriately." For me that means multiple hard (75-45mph) reactions every mile whenever there are road mirages - those shiny patches on the road on sunny days. This mostly happens on empty-in-front-of-me roads. VW doesn't stop for road mirages because it uses radar. There are no settings in basic Autopilot that prevent this sort of phantom braking - I've tried them all - the only thing that works is driving behind a semi so the car doesn't see the mirages.
That's a great question. At least in the US, the Travel Assist speed doesn't seem to be limited to the speed limit. I'm sure I've had it to 85 but certainly no faster. I'm not sure of the actual maximum. I see an article that says 130mph, but I personally have no idea.
Does Travel Assist wander much in the lane on freeway instead of staying in center like Tesla can? I find Tesla Autopilot never weaves in the lane except on purpose to stay slightly away from trucks
Not at all. If anything, I would say Travel Assist is better at staying in the lane than Tesla, which can sometimes get confused when a line widens, for example. However, that's gotten much better over the years with software updates. Thanks for watching.
Interesting; When we tap down on the right stock, it activates Autopilot, indicated by the MAX speed lighting up BLUE, including two lines delineating the lane. When the stock is double tapped it activates FSD, indicated by the BLUE steering wheel, and a single thick BLUE line emanating from the front of the vehicle icon on screen… Curious; The Tesla recognizes the speed limit changes even on the highway and adjusts accordingly, does the ID4 do the same… Also, in the Tesla, if the driver anticipates a traffic situation ahead you can indicate a lane change and it will change lanes while still remaining in Autopilot… 🤔
I believe Travel Assist can adapt to speed limit signs (it definitely reads them), but I do need to test that. You have FSD in your Tesla, which allows automatic lane changes. The base autopilot that comes with the cars does not. Thanks for watching.
VW doesnt get enough credit. Its Travel Assist is VERY strong!!!
I agree. Thanks for watching.
I have had my 2022 Pro S RWD, for over 15 months and 50k miles and also never had a fanton brake. It also works great on city roads. In my 2020 M3 SR+, I had many issues with the fanton brake. Also the lane keep assist on the ID.4 works better in the rain.
My 2020 SR+ has improved with OTA updates and phantom braking has been reduced. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe, we have plenty more VW and Tesla content coming!
You can enable a feature from the ACC menu to have it slowdown on tighter bends on country roads. The TravelAssist can’t keep with the bends but at least you can have the ACC on. I use it almost daily on my commute, where I set the ACC to 70kph and it will then slowdown 5-15 kph on certain bends.
Thanks for the info. I’ll check that out.
NOT TRUE !!!
@@BUNKERPT yes it is and it’s been a feature on some vw models for few years. I don’t know the English wording for the switch, but roughly translated it’s “predict the way of the road”.
@@MondernMan I have 2021 ID3 and it has it. Also same TravelAssist features can be found on gas fuelled Golf, Passat, and many other variants.
Sounds like a lot of noise in that Tesla 🥶🥶
Yeah, for real. It’s a 2020 model (built in December 2019) before they added acoustic glass and more absorbent interior materials. Still drives like a dream! Our ID.4 is much more quiet. Thanks for watching!!
I noticed that. Yikes
Being vision only is the worst idea that Tesla could have implemented. Lidar wasnt hurting anybody. The opposite, in fact.
Tesla used radar, but your point still stands.
I also noticed that it was clearly noisier in the Tesla than in the ID 4. I keep skipping back and forth and compare. ID 4 is quieter.
Yes, very much so. However, mine is a 2020 Model 3 and I know the newer ones are quieter. I doubt it’s as quiet as the ID.4 though. I’ll soon be renting a Model Y to test and that will be the best and most interesting comparison. Thanks for watching.
Nice comparison.
Thanks for watching!!
Interesting. Travaled over 6000 Miles in my 2023 Model Y and not even onve had a Phantom Brake. My Brother in his 2021 Model 3 had in about 50.000 Miles a few from which nearly all we than could point to specific Signallights in Tunnels which the Tesla misinterpreted as a Motorcycle backlight. They did fix that with a update tough. One time a Bicycle without Rider standed a little bit in a Crosssection behind a Car and it saw it late an braked hard. But i wouldn't really call that a Phantombrake. So real Phantombrakes where out of nowhere he had maybe 5 in 50.000 Miles. I wonder why some people seems to has much more.
Great question. I just had the first phantom brake yesterday that I have had in months and months. In recent years, for me anyway, it’s very rare but it does occur.
@@EVeryMile01 Drive from Raton NM to Clayton NM on a clear sunny day. Either way. You'll get dozens.
In most cases, "phantom braking" is just the car trying to do the speed limit (it automatically reads speed limit signs). You can disable that with the latest software, which should eliminate any "phantom" slowing down. Tesla has three backup cameras. I use those for cross-traffic checking. Yes, Autopilot needs a "suspend" mode. You do not need to apply torque to the steering wheel, just touch one of the buttons on the steering wheel. I increase/decrease the volume.
Thanks for watching.
The Tesla owner's manual says ""Traffic-Aware Cruise Control may react to vehicles or objects that either do not exist, or are not in your lane of travel, causing Model 3 to slow down unnecessarily or inappropriately." For me that means multiple hard (75-45mph) reactions every mile whenever there are road mirages - those shiny patches on the road on sunny days. This mostly happens on empty-in-front-of-me roads. VW doesn't stop for road mirages because it uses radar. There are no settings in basic Autopilot that prevent this sort of phantom braking - I've tried them all - the only thing that works is driving behind a semi so the car doesn't see the mirages.
Is there a speed cap on the Travel Assist? I know the tesla caps at 85mph and just 5mph over the speed limit on city roads.
That's a great question. At least in the US, the Travel Assist speed doesn't seem to be limited to the speed limit. I'm sure I've had it to 85 but certainly no faster. I'm not sure of the actual maximum. I see an article that says 130mph, but I personally have no idea.
Does Travel Assist wander much in the lane on freeway instead of staying in center like Tesla can? I find Tesla Autopilot never weaves in the lane except on purpose to stay slightly away from trucks
Not at all. If anything, I would say Travel Assist is better at staying in the lane than Tesla, which can sometimes get confused when a line widens, for example. However, that's gotten much better over the years with software updates. Thanks for watching.
@@EVeryMile01 thanks for advice and I look forward to more videos
@@EVeryMile01 Tesla AP still keeps itself "centered" as an exit lane appears whenever the exit lane doesn't have lane markings.
Thanks for the video! How does TravelAssist do on country roads?
It’s okay but doesn’t slow down for turns in the road and is nowhere near as good as Autopilot on the backroads.
@@EVeryMile01 the ID.7 and following updated ID.4 will have predictive travel assist. Similar to what the new Atlas has now.
Interesting; When we tap down on the right stock, it activates Autopilot, indicated by the MAX speed lighting up BLUE, including two lines delineating the lane. When the stock is double tapped it activates FSD, indicated by the BLUE steering wheel, and a single thick BLUE line emanating from the front of the vehicle icon on screen…
Curious; The Tesla recognizes the speed limit changes even on the highway and adjusts accordingly, does the ID4 do the same… Also, in the Tesla, if the driver anticipates a traffic situation ahead you can indicate a lane change and it will change lanes while still remaining in Autopilot…
🤔
I believe Travel Assist can adapt to speed limit signs (it definitely reads them), but I do need to test that. You have FSD in your Tesla, which allows automatic lane changes. The base autopilot that comes with the cars does not. Thanks for watching.
Basic Tesla Autopilot (non-FSD) does not adjust its maximum speed when speed limits change.
Good Video :)
Thanks for watching!
If you don't touch the steering wheel, what does Travel Assist do? Does it simply deactivate, or does it bring the car to a gentle stop?
Yes, it slows down staying in the lane, puts on the hazards, and beeps the horn believe it or not. Thanks for watching!
@@EVeryMile01 yes that’s the emergency assist.
Auto pilot, and you still need to hold the steering wheel!
Yep. Hands on, eyes on. Thanks for watching.
This is because the Cars are not truly capable of full self driving. It is just marketing from Tesla...
VW 👑
Thanks for watching!