Tesla FSD vs Mercedes Driver Assist! Is Mercedes really better?
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- Putting Tesla FSD head to head against Mercedes Driver Assist on the same road! I have videos of both driving on the same road side by side along with the number of interventions so you can see how they perform against each other.
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Clearly the better system at keeping the driver engaged...
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OMG, Almost like driving without lane keep assist, only scarier!
lol I would say stress out instead of keeping driver engaged.
The mercedes system is basically a highway assistant, while the tesla feels like real autonomy
The problem with the Tesla system is that, it is more like a question of when it kills you not if. So no, it’s not autonomous, well it kinda is, but not safely ;)
@@ichigo19870 Tesla doesnt make a level 3 claim yet. 12.4 is supposed to be such a major upgrade that the nag will be removed entirely. Cant wait to see if that holds true
@@mrperson1324 yes they did, if you want I can show you pictures ;) they promised like 7 years ago that FSD will be done at the end of the year. People actually went to court to stop those false advertisements and they won.
@@ichigo19870 Tesla's system is only Level 2, which means constant monitoring is required. You have to agree to a disclosure every time you enable FSD for your driver profile. Mercedes claims Level 3, which means you can take your eyes off the road (interstates only). That's absolutely crazy to me, especially after seeing how poorly the Mercedes system performs. Quite contrary to what you said, I think it's the Mercedes system that will result in more deaths. I'm sorry if you got hurt by overzealous Musk promises 7 years ago, but that doesn't mean that Tesla Corporation claims FSD is autonomous. They don't claim that at all. I learned to ignore Musk's timelines a long time ago lol
Scary. I don’t trust FSD fully either but on most of what is shown here I do. I pay close attention at every intersection or slightly non-straightforward section of road but even then it mostly does great. I would never bother to turn this system on in the Mercedes as way too scary.
Obviously Merc is miles better here. Look at how engaged Omar was with trying not to crash. 10/10.
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Mercedes ADAS: Makes you a better driver. 🙂
Seems like the woke mind virus has infected consumer reports and they want to slag Elon for not being their slave.
Made my decision. Bought Tesla stock on March 22nd, and ordered my first electric vehicle, a model 3 performance later that week. Delivery in June. I'll post videos with real world reviews & performance.
That's so embarrassing, NHTSA are a joke and as for Consumer Reports words fail me 😂😂😂
The system ranked by CR and NHTSA isn't the one he's using. Deceptive video.
It's a highway driver assist system compared to autopilot. Not a city driving system compared to FSD. But I guess Tesla fanboys can't read.
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They did say it was a highway assist but given the rating of CR, the takeaway is that Mercedes was overall a better system. So, the result is a standard drive test. Agreed the two systems should not be compared in general terms as either CR or Mars did. Our take way is that each is very different and their abilities are pretty clear given this.
@@mikenielsen3971 Pay attention. CR compared Mercedes highway only driver assist with AUTOPILOT. This video compared the Mercedes system with FSD on city streets.
CR was completely in the right, the video creator is being intentionally deceptive.
@@gamesguy but don't they still classify tesla as level 2 - same as Mercedes, and i would see the level 3 Mercedes would not do this drive either.
@@gamesguyit is comparing the best that they can offer on some setting and the result is clear. Maybe not to fan girl like you? Now cry me a river. 😂
🤣 After the 10th intervention, I was like, alright bro, we get it, you don’t have to keep risking your life. You made your point a while ago! 😂
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I made it about that far when I jumped ahead and saw Tesla was winning 36-0, and dude in the passenger seat started freaking out about some of the damaged roads and the driver banging up the undercarriage.
Right now, anything that isn't Tesla's AP is just a joke, lol.
Oh my god! The Mercedes CANNOT even keep itself in the lane! That is not "worse". It is basically an incomplete software!! Truly amazing video and it should have more exposures!
Failing to keep itself in the clearly marked lane, at slow speed is inexcusable. Claiming it is “highway assistant” does not excuse mb from it.
This is a deceiving video. This is not the level 3 self driving benz. This car only has lane keep assist which is old technology. It functions about like the rest of them. Notice the driver has to manually take over for intersections. Typical of lane assist only systems. The level 3 version has lights in the steering wheel.
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Riiiight, and which version was mentioned in this video? Driver Assistant or Drive Pilot?
It's misleading you to think this is mercedes top of the line system and it is not. Why else would you make a comparison against teslas top system? Should we compare a dodge dart to a corvette too and bash the dart for being slow and the vette for being so "far ahead"
@@mobilejoe87you mean the level 3 system that only works on highways, with a lead car, heavy traffic, under 40mph, only during the day, and only when it's sunny? That level 3 system?
I don’t understand. The Mercedes system must be very safe or Dan O’Dowd would have spent millions trying to shut it down. Clearly the Tesla system is very dangerous because the driver could become bored!
Great video. I hope this reaches a huge audience.
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Dan knows mercedes is no competition to his company. Tesla clearly is.
Mercedes-Benz Drive Assist (Distronic): in this video
- Functionality: Drive Assist is a hands-on system that provides excellent lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control.
- Autonomy Level: It operates at Level 2, which means the driver must keep their hands on the wheel and remain ready to take control instantly.
- Coverage: Drive Assist works on freeways, but only on those that are mapped and approved.
- Annual Cost: There is no additional annual cost for Drive Assist.
Mercedes-Benz Drive Pilot: this is what should be compared to Tesla FSD
- Functionality: Drive Pilot offers a taste of autonomous driving, but with limited functionality.
- Autonomy Level: It falls somewhere between Level 2 and Level 3. While it allows hands-free driving, the driver must still be able to take over when requested.
- Coverage: Drive Pilot is currently legally allowed only in California and Nevada.
- Annual Cost: Drive Pilot comes with a high annual cost of $2,500
I just read up on Mercedes Drive Pilot, it is good on freeways up to 40 mph and only if there is traffic. (guessing it needs to fallow a car ahead of you)
Great that somebody acutal wrote this - it is not the Level 3 shown here (no activation Buttons on the steering wheel).
Omar is a fraud and he doesn't care about the differences. All about that pump, baby! Lies and deception.
wow, thx for highlighting this, i missed that nuance. This fact makes the video almost a fraud of a comparison...
You should make this video public I don't think another vid has shown in black and white just how far ahead Tesla is and I think as many people as possible need to see this
And as far as FSD capabilities goes, this wasn't even a warm up.
@@peter.g6 yup!
Aint UA-cam ❤ public 😂
Just to be clear, this was FSD not auto pilot. And this was Mercedes driver assist , it there l3 system. This car doesn’t have the lidar ect that their l3 car has.
That being said, I also believe FSD is way ahead
You're comparing FSD to a level 2 system designed for highways and is intentionally unable to make sharp turns. Could this video be more dishonest?
The Mercedes system for city driving has already been in press hands and is out next year.
Just want to point out (this was pointed out to me) that this Mercedes EQS is *not* equipped with the Level 3 autonomy system. Mercedes vehicles with that system have two dedicated buttons on the upper half of the steering wheel from where the system is activated. On this video there are no such buttons and the autonomous system is activated via central hub of the wheel. This means this system on Mercedes is more comparable to non-FSD autopilot, not to FSD.
That being said, my 5+ years old Model 3 with AP2.5 hardware and old software stack does MUCH better job driving autonomously than this Mercedes. I would be extremely intrigued to see a one more drive with the Mercedes Level 3 system on this very same drive.
The proof is in the drive. Tesla is the winner and Mercedes isn't even on the map and NHTSA shouldn't even allow it to be on the road.
Yeah, except all those people killed and injured by FSD, not to mention all the millions of dollars of damage.
I think it should be allowed on the road. But it should not be considered "Level 3." Level 3 means you can take your eyes off the road on an interstate. Are you kidding me??? I'd feel like I was going to die at a moment's notice LOL
@@free-qe6wxyou drunk or something? When driving accidents will happen. And I’m quite sure that almost all lane assisting technology and especially Tesla FSD with supervision of course. Is safer than the average human driver. Because these systems are not lazy and look out the window for a split second, and then the driver in front breaks hard. The system will see that. Whether it’s a Tesla, Audi, Honda or whatever.
@@chrisja1998 "Is safer than the average human driver." And you know that how exactly?
@@free-qe6wxyou’re asking for receipts…where are yours for “all the injuries and deaths” and the “millions of dollars of damage”?
“ we had to take over every turn and we’re not even going very fast” that would make for a great Mercedes tagline
Hang on a second. I think this consumer report compared Tesla's 'Auto Pilot' with Mercedes's 'Driver Assistance'...not with FSD. Mind you, Tesla's Auto Pilot and FSD are different thing. If this is the case, the consumer report should also make a comparison between Mercedes's 'Driver Assistance - Level whatever' and Tesla's FSD. Then it's a fair fight.
this should be on CNBC
Why? CNBC is one of the most biased Tesla haters around.
@@paintedpony2935 Because lots of investors and money watch CNBC. If you care about Tesla stock then you may wish to care about investors. Also, I want to see people like Phil LaButt and some of the other smug broadcasters eat it.
@@paintedpony2935 Which is precisely why it should be shown on CNBC.
nah they still averaging in at lower prices. while they tell you not to buy😁
Hahaha, the MSM hate Tesla and won't report on anything that makes Tesla look good.
And this is not even city driving where Tesla would completely destroy Mercedes.
Mercedes needs no help
No, it won't. Mercedes destroy itself just fine.
I love how all the Mercedes heads are bragging that Mercedes was the first to have a "level 3" system. That is so laughable. And the best part is the media is pushing this garbage. They are simply and blatantly just hating on Tesla and Elon
They *were* the first to have a Level 3 system. But as the SAE document that defines the various levels states, "While numbered sequentially 0 through 5, the levels of driving automation do not specify or imply hierarchy in terms of relative merit, technology sophistication, or order of deployment. Thus, this taxonomy does not specify or imply that, for example, Level 3 is “better” than Level 2." As an example, Tesla's Level 2 FSD (Supervised) system is far, far better than MB's Level 3 Drive Pilot in almost every category.
The main difference between Level 2 and Level 3 is that in Level 2, the driver must be able to take over immediately when requested; while in Level 3, the takeover can be delayed-for instance MB Drive Pilot allows 10 seconds for the driver to take over. This is trivially easy when all vehicles are moving in the same direction at
The route taken in the video isn't one of the mapped Level 3 routes Mercedes has. So the car was using normal Advanced Cruise Control.
@@Shzl47 Actually, that car wasn't equipped with Level 3 Drive Pilot. And given the fact that Drive Pilot costs more than twice as much as FSD now, and works only in traffic jams on freeways during the day in dry weather, it's a wonder anyone buys it. But I guess if you have to commute every day on I-5, I-405 or I-210 in the LA area, it might be worth it!
@@BigBen621 oh yea, I forgot about the speed limit of Mercedes' Level 3 system. It's 40 mph. It's wild to see how many people actually believe the system featured in this video is a Level 3 implementation.
This is Level 2 driver assistance designed for highways, that's not the new Mercedes Level 3 self driving (Drive Pilot). Comparing apples 🍏 to cucumbers 🥒? Mercedes actually mapped which route the level 3 is on and limited the speed to 40mph.
Autopilot ≠ FSD
I love how the FSD video kept waiting for the faulty Merc software to catch up LOL
Ikr 😂😂😂😂
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Thank you for doing this. The rest of the population doesn't realize how far ahead Tesla's vision-only system is.
It's evident that Tesla completely blew this comparison out of the gate.
Few things to note: 1) Tesla had 0 interventions 2) Tesla has the ability to perform both right and left turns (protected and unprotected) 3) Tesla was able to navigate itself without any lane markings required. 4) Tesla has the ability to stop at traffic light, stop at stop signs (including properly yielding to prior vehicles stopped at stop signs) 5) Tesla has the ability to anticipate pedestrian intention 6) OH! and did I mention, Tesla processes this all now via Neural Net.
Now, the question is.... How on Earth did Mercedes a) get approval to call their systems a Level 3 (L3) and b) which agency allowed Mercedes to advertise this?
All these other companies, including BlueCruise, are claiming "HandsFree" driving whereas in the real-world Tesla's system is an order of magnitude more advanced than any competitor.
Also, thank you for your post, editing, and your dad's input.
Edit: I understand that Mercedes had once stated that the L3 is only applicable when on highway and 40km/h or slower. However, as the dad stated, the way they’re advertising this to customers makes customers and media believe Mercedes vehicles are fully autonomous.
L3 just means they have good lawyers.
Its ONLY level 3 in VERY specific circumstances highway plus good weather plus trailing another car in front that it is trailing these are the restrictions around when its operating at level 3
To answer your question! Thats because the Level 3 Mercedes-System is only useable on a highway in certain conditions, it doesn't work like Tesla and was never advertised to work in or around cities. People should start to think for themselves but I suppose its easier to just follow the herd and believe everything^^ What you have seen in this video is a comparison between FSD and the "stupid" Mercedes Highway-Assist L2! In the city!!! There is no other car maker that offers a city assist, Omar should actually know that.
@@ichigo19870 I’m pretty sure those whom replied under this specific thread of conversation know this. My issue, imo, is with MB allowing media to run with the L3 label; it’s extremely misleading and irresponsible.
Let’s say Omar had only used basic Autopilot vs MB’s system, it’s still evident that Mercedes still couldn’t keep within its lane - from drifting to wrong lane selections. Autopilot can achieve this as FSD simply unlocks the extra features mentioned in my previous post.
Anyways, the real test will come with v12.4 when, according to Elon, the nag feature will be removed. Then in this case, Tesla can drive at highway speed limit with no interaction (including hands on wheel), whilst MB drivers can have this feature only going 40 mp/h or less on highway as long as conditions are favorable.
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@@arya_jahan98 no, Mercedes is NOT misleading as they always clearly stated where this system is allowed and where and how it works. Tesla on the other hand advertises autonomous driving for almost a decade without delivering on it. Sure, the system has come far but it is still so far away from even being a Level 3/4/5 system. How long are people supposed to wait? What did Mercedes promise???
This comparison was just a farce since they don’t offer anything like FSD. All you could actually do is compare it on the highway in low speed traffic to make it „fair“
omar's dad is a legend! the commentary is spot on throughout!
17:30 Samir... You're breaking the car!
damaged the bottom of the car loool dads r always right DAMNIT! haha
Samir ... we're not going to finish !
What are you trying to prove here? 😂
@@JorgePacker SEE!
Why don’t you listen to me? 😂
You'll never see mainstream media show this type of video! For those in the know we already knew Tesla FSD was miles ahead of anyone else, but if you listen to what MSM reports you would think it is absolutely horrible!
Thats because the Mercedes-System is only useable on a highway in certain conditions, it doesn't work like Tesla and was never advertised to work in our around cities. People should start to think for themselves but I suppose its easier to just follow the herd and believe everything^^ What you have seen in this video is a comparison between FSD and the "stupid" Mercedes Highway-Assist L2! In the city!!! There is no other car maker that offers a city assist, Omar should actually know that.
@@ichigo19870but at least it should keep the car in the lane… also, it can’t drive above 40m/hr, how can it be on the high way?
@@niniclzz9459 no it shouldn’t because it is a Highway assist and not made for urban areas. You are not even allowed to use it there. Why only 40mph? Because that’s the current limit for the Level 3 system so it’s pretty much a traffic jam chauffeur. That’s why this comparison is so idiotic. A car guy like Omar should have known that.
@@ichigo19870 when you say highway assist, which highway only do 40mlh? Most drive in the video only do 35mlh, and if that can’t even keep the car in the lane, where should it be used? Like never… 😂
@@niniclzz9459 like I said it has to be on specific highways where the lanes are separated, there needs to be a car in front, it has to be daylight and the weather need to be nice and so on, that’s why I said it’s a traffic jam chauffeur! It only works when there is a lot of traffic on a busy highway. They are working on higher speeds at the moment but so far this system is only certified as is. It is very limited but that’s not surprising at all since the repercussions would be pretty bad if something happens. So for a first step, that’s ok and it’s more than Tesla has ever delivered although they promised the world almost a decade ago and here we are 8 years later, still with a supervised system
Love your dad berating you!!! Lol 😅
That's typical Asian Parents for y’all. Lol.
I didn't know it was his dad.😂
The comparison chart compared Mercedes Driver Assist to "Autopilot", not FSD... could that be the disconnect?
The chart compared driver assist to autopilot. The video was Mercedes Drive Pilot Level 3 vs Tesla FSD Level 2. The road was a road Mercedes says Drive Pilot is supposed to be able to drive. No disconnect.
...um that's not mercedes drive pilot. Doesn't drive pilot have the two blue buttons you push to engage on the wheel? Then the teal lights turn on? Am I mistaken?
No you are right. It has no Drive Pilot, but let the Tesla-Fans think their system is better 😂
@@felixh.221 _Tesla-Fans think their system is better_
Mercedes's Level 3 system, Drive Pilot, operates only in traffic jams on selected precision-mapped, limited-access divided highways, in Nevada and California, during daytime, on dry roads, in clear weather. Meanwhile, FSD (Supervised), operates on every road, street, highway or freeway in the US and Canada, paved or not, mapped or not, at any time of day or night, in most any weather, at any speed up to 85 MPH, but you do have to rest a hand on the wheel. I'll leave it to others to decide which system is better.
The Tesla side is so boring… 😂 I love it! 🥳
The mercedes used in the video only had lane keep assist. Old technology. This is why the driver manually drives through intersections. The level 3 self driving version has light bands in the steering wheel that come on when activated.
Consumer Reports was rating Autopilot, not FSD, correct?
True, however there is no way AP is this bad.
And this changes what??? Autopilot does the same driving. Just not end to end navigation. That Mercedes was ALL over the place. 100% unacceptable for the "best" system.
It's still misleading for those who don't know the difference between Autopilot and FSD. The CR article is bad.
@@bwp2bruce It's also misleading what media is telling us every day about Mercedes and Tesla. But AP would have done much better as well.
Maybe the Mercedes was only tested on a straight part of a clearly marked freeway. and the Tesla in city traffic on an unmarked bending road with a dog running in front of the car while in thick fog at night and raining.
Did Consumer Reports compare *Autopilot* to Merc, or FSD Beta? The intro graphic said Autopilot.
Whats to tell when this comparison was done in bad faith? What you have seen is NOT the Level 3 Assist. How can people be so ignorant to just believe that kind of stuff :D
I thought the same thing. But if they did it is misleading for them to compare current Mercedes software with enhanced autopilot which is not current Tesla software (FSD supervised is). But, even so, I had enhanced autopilot before I got accepted into the FSD beta program in the first tranche 3 years ago, and at that time it was more capable on a drive like this than what I’m seeing the Mercedes doing in this video.
@@Dave-ei7kk that’s because Mercedes doesn’t offer anything like Tesla. They are not even working on a similar system like FSD. At the moment they only concentrate on the highway assist, that’s where the system shines although even there it only works in a couple situations that’s because the liability goes over to Mercedes so they wanna play it safe. But this video is a farce and should have never been uploaded.
It's still misleading for those who don't know the difference between Autopilot and FSD. The CR article is bad.
The intro graphic was driver assist to autopilot. The video was Mercedes Drive Pilot level 3 vs Tesla FSD level 2.
ANOTHER great video and so helpful to see a side-by-side like this…nice work.
Right, but isn't the statistics in the beginning of the video about Tesla Autopilot and not FSD as demonstrated in this video?
Ahh that’s why
Autopilot would still likely be 0 intervention on the driven road.
@@ButterNutter37 I have no doubt Autopilot is superior to whatever shit Mercedes has, but AP is not designed for regular streets. I'm pretty sure it'd screw up a fair share of times. Not 50, mind you. Maybe 5-8 times.
Even Tesla autopilot makes Mercedes driver assistance feel primitive…don’t even try to compare it to FSD…merc driver assistance is a joke as seen in this video.
@@MessiahAI I wasn't the one comparing it to FSD. Omar does in this video. The graph at the beginning of the video is comparing Mercedes' driver assist system with Tesla's Autopilot. To counter this Omar proceeds to show how good FSD is compared to Mercedes' driver assist. Again, I don't doubt the graph at the start is mostly bogus, but this video does nothing really to deny the claims of the graph.
I have the latest FSD and it works majority of the time and the recent update has shown some regression on the driving, but the parking feature has improved significantly. This video does an excellent job showing how advanced Tesla FSD compared to the competition.
Thx for doing it side by side like I suggested
Fantastic format Omar!!
EXCELLENT side by side demo. 💯👍🤯
ONE system was "Excellent"
The other was.... Sketchy
@@rogerstarkey5390 one system promises way more,... the other system is over a decade old even thogh a newer one is available,... and promises way less
Just confirming Omar, that this Mercedes car is not a Level 3 equipped EQS Sedan? So would a more fair comparison be Tesla Autopilot vs the Mercedes Driver assist? I just did 500km driving in my Tesla Model 3 2021 with the legacy Autopilot software stack (FSD is paid for on my car but not available here in Australia yet), and I had several disengagements with trouble lane changing and over taking trucks on the highway.
I do also acknowledge that Tesla FSD you can enable anywhere (almost) and it will perform really well, while Mercedes Drive Pilot L3 can only be enabled on certain roads with very constrained variables (daytime, no rain, lead car, etc.
this is what mercedes calles level 3 autonomy. so they rank it above FSD, so does consumer reports and other websites. this is a fair comparison.
you tried basic AP, which is a completely different and older technology, not FSD. so that would be a unfair comparison.
This is not a L3 equipped Mercedes. L3 Drive Pilot cars have two extra buttons on the steering wheel and blue indicator lights that turn on when Drive Pilot is available. Unfortunately a completely pointless comparison. Besides that: the Mercedes L3 system is approved and drivers are actually allowed to do something else while it‘s active. In a Tesla, the driver always is in charge. No matter what Tesla tells you: if you crash, it‘s your responsibility.
Look at it as a parody. Media worldwide paints a bad picture about Tesla every day (a.k.a. don't bite the hand that feeds you). This is a punch in their face so people can see the difference between FSD and whatever Mercedes is capable of.
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You know this won't age well?
You mean like FSD…sorry, Supervised FSD 😉
Massive difference. The Mercedes solution reminds me of what my Volvo or MK 7.5 Golf R were capable of, just slightly better. Driving around on 12.3.6 is like being in the future, and I like the future... we just need it on our CTs soon. Probably won't get it until LATE this year though :(
they tested sictronic,... the automatic cruise control and ladekeeping,... a 10 year old system
Expected outcome, great video, thank you Omar 👍
This is Level 2 driver assistance designed for highways, that's not the new Mercedes Level 3 self driving (Drive Pilot). Comparing apples 🍏 to cucumbers 🥒? Mercedes actually mapped which route the level 3 is on and limited the speed to 40mph.
We really take FSD for granted!!
I guess one way to command driver engagement is to scare the shit out of the driver!!!!
Thanks OMAR. Excellent test. Great video.
I think a big thing to consider as well is the time of day that's being used between the two devices. My vehicle has some lane assist technology, and it does best during the middle of the day, when the Mercedes is driving. My lane centering system struggles when driving directly into sunsets, which the Tesla is actually doing the entire time. So the Tesla theoretically should be working harder due to poor lighting conditions, and lens flare caused by direct sunlight.
Can you please do the same video with regular auto pilot?
While I agree with that Tesla has the better system, the proper comparison should be Autopilot itself and not FSD
It would still loose
i wanna see their jaw drop when they realise what kind of capabilities the V12 FSD has
The Mercedes Level 3 system only works on specific highway roads. Was this tested route part of those?
What version did Consumer Reports test ? Plain old autopilot?
Maybe the one on my 2015 model s....wait, mine isn't that bad either
Does the Mercedes only work on pre-mapped highways?
Great video guys, thanks for sharing this
Awesome video thank you! Your dad’s commentary is priceless. Hilarious!
Please make more of These kind of Videos. That could change a lot for some people
Media keeps attacking Elon. Just because of politics behind all the shit. Disgusting US deep State
Was your car driving in FSD mode, or Autopilot?
The review compares the Mercedes ADAS to Tesla Autopilot, not FSD. Not that I believe it would change much.
Did you get a chance to test it on any of the roads for which it's approved for use? Are there any such roads in California?
This isn't Drive Pilot, which is only usable on limited access divided highways at ≤40 MPH; this is Driver Assistance Package, which is just adaptive cruise control plus lane centering, similar to Tesla Autopilot, which doesn't have these limitations.
My wife was in front of me with our 2018 model 3 (we got basic autopilot through a referral and it still has the 2.5 computer) while I was behind in our 2020 model x and she tells me she was using basic autopilot almost the whole time on winding back roads in bucks county pa with sharper turns than your roads and she was doing 30-40 mph. She was even letting it handle lights and the car stopped because it saw cross traffic ahead. The car handled it perfectly and I was surprised when she told me because I thought she was driving faster than she should have been for those curves and was just letting basic autopilot drive I was just driving manually and pulling a trailer. Live SMR says, consumer reports is conjob reports.
Not that I have any particular love for Mercedes or Consumer Reports, but CR tested Autopilot for their rating, not FSD. How is this video a fair rebuttal?
It says autopilot on the top, so maybe they only tested basic free autopilot
Yes, but they also implied, that's the state of the art at Tesla. So the CR-report was disingenuous either way.
No point in testing FSD with Merc. The Merc can't go where FSD go.
@JHJones-nq5we Yeah, but maybe the test was only fast straight roads and highways where Mercedes is able to function. Since Tesla uses V11 for those roads, it's possible that they had a bit worse experience with it.
That was Drive Pilot level 3 vs FSD level 2 in the video.
@MessiahAI That didn't look like level 3 self driving to me, it was asking for nags all the time
So in summary, Tesla gives you a professional chauffeur while Mercedes gives you a teenage student driver 😂
A drunk teenage driver at that
I appreciate how y'all made it clear that the Mercedes is best suited for the highway however this comparison does show where Mercedes is at technologically. I've read a lot of articles that make it seem like Mercedes is ahead of Tesla when it comes to self-driving and I was very skeptical of this angle. Tesla simply has been working on this from the very beginning and invests massive amounts of money into AI technologies.
Mercedes should have Ed Reed be their spokesperson for their ADAS system because that thing is all over the place.
Man I didn’t think Mercedes was this bad for all the talk they put up. This was nothing but embarrassing
This is NOT driver pilot from Mercedes. Dont get wrong things, just because a youtuber post something. This is the ADAS with technology from 2015, basically like Autopilot 1 at that time.
But for sure FSD is also ahead of driver pilot, technology wise.
@@ASTZDomidragon tbh I don’t care when this was released or what version is, this shouldn’t have ever been in a car let alone a very expensive one. It can’t even handle a bend in a road…
Teslas autopilot/FSD were never nearly this bad
@@SamuelMM_Mitosis autopilot 1 was also this bad on streets like this. IT IS NOT DESIGNED for this kind of streets. Simple as that
@@ASTZDomidragon autopilot was never unable to handle a bend in the road. It might be better suited for highways, but it always worked much better than this on other roads
Just look at old UA-cam videos of Model S using early versions of autopilot
@@SamuelMM_Mitosis I have a P85D since 7 years. I know what you mean, but this street it would not handle well. Better then the mercedes indeed.
Good comparison, thank you
Obviously no contest. Wonder how much MB paid to get a better score? But.... my 12.3.6 just ran over a curb (fully over at about 3 mph) with the right rear tire. Not good at all. It was a basic situation turning into a parking lot. What version of 12.x do we need before the car stops doing those things?
Everyone needs to comment so this video goes viral.
Tbh, people say that mercedes driver asist is better than Tesla's auto pilot.
But actually, it's because they hate tesla for a very, very, very, dumb reason.
This was a good demo, I am definitely not getting a Mercedes since I love FSD....Im happy with Tesla out here in Texas. Your passenger is so hilarious in the Mercedes, he was like "get me out of Here" ....I would say the same! 😂
Shame on them for giving them a 10/10. This is the absolute proof that legacy automakers control completely every aspect of the "journalism" and "oversight"
even autopilot can take that curves in the road without failing. this way worse than autopilot
Why isn't he comparing it to autopilot? Why give people the ammunition?
Great video
Im confused ... I had the FSD beta and had to touch the steering wheel every 5-10 seconds. How is this not a requirement ?
US based Model Y. Does this car have a better interior camera or another country doesn't nag you ?
Did Consumer Reports give a score to FSD or just Autopilot?
“Does Mercedes really have a better driver assistance system than Tesla?” Are you referring to Autopilot (as shown in the chart) or FSD (which you compare it to). The TSLAQ folks are going to call this out as being misleading (and they’d be right).
I haven’t used Mercedes, but I have used FSD and it’s great! In this video, you guys are clearly biased in favor of Tesla. I don’t think you need to be. An impartial comparison would have the same results. Tesla’s FSD is clearly the winner when it comes to scalable autonomy.
The intro graphic was driver assist vs autopilot. The video was Mercedes Drive Pilot Level 3 vs Tesla FSD level 2. The road he tested was a road Mercedes claims Drive Pilot is supposed to be able to drive autonomously.
Agree. It claims the bad score for Autopilot, not FSD, this is a bit misleading and should be clerified in the video.
@@MessiahAIAre you Sure? The Level 3 system got some extra buttons and lights...not seeing this in the video.
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Consumers Report did not test FSD, just Autopilot. The MB thing is more comparable to that and you should try that comparison.
great video. loved the humor.
Love the video you campare side by side show what is the best🥰🥰🥰👍
How dare you use an L3 system on public roads!
Drive Assist is a Level 2 ADAS. You're thinking of Drive Pilot, which is a Level 3 ADS.
So is fsd @@BigBen621
@@Aku6Soku1Zan Of course it is. Is anyone saying it isn't?
@@BigBen621 that was Drive Pilot vs FSD in the video.
@@MessiahAI No, it was Drive *Assist.* It says so right in the title: "Tesla FSD vs Mercedes Driver *Assist!"*
Drive *Pilot* can only be engaged on selected limited-access divided highways at speeds ≤40 MPH. The fact that this system would engage on two-lane roads is further proof that this was Drive *Assist,* and not Drive *Pilot.*
I'm glad I made the right decision to buy the Tesla instead of the others.
Your pops is low key hilarious.
In conclusion, Mercedes Benz clearly makes the more exciting system.
"A more engaging system, for the F1 driver soul in you" 😂
This is Level 2 driver assistance designed for highways, that's not the new Mercedes Level 3 self driving (Drive Pilot). Comparing apples 🍏 to cucumbers 🥒? Mercedes actually mapped which route the level 3 is on and limited the speed to 40mph.
40mph? 😂😂😂
Yeah right? 😅 Lmao. The point is the comparison is not representative regardless of Benz's guidelines.
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I knew it thank you guys for doing this.
The only thing that could make this video any better would be a revelation that Green Hills Software is what's piloting the Mercedes. Omar's passenger commentary is absolutely gold.
this guy is the typeical know it all uncgil from the indian sub continent
Then watch how the media, including Mercedes, complains the "test" was biased by choosing a route that was pre-determined to be better for the Tesla, blah, blah.
It was broad daylight, on a highway, with clearly marked lanes, etc.
If you can't even handle the lowest-hanging fruit of the FSD problem, then how the hell are we going to trust you with the real challenging stuff like city driving ?
And almost zero traffic, For Frunk’s Sake!
5:24 "Wow!! This is crazy, get me out of here. I wanna live a bit more years" 😂😂😂😂😂 Total agree, very very dangerous
You guys are very entertaining.
I think CR tested Autopilot, not Tesla FSD but still even Autopilot has more features than Mercedes, also they should have tested the best optionals ADAS for each car
The question is, when the Mercedes system is
1) A subscription service.
And
2) Costs more than FSD Beta....
WHY did they use Autopilot?
The graph was driver assist vs autopilot. The video was Mercedes Level 3 Drive Pilot vs Tesla Level 2 FSD.
Their family is very affluent, bought the Mercedes in the video, and they always buy top-of-the-line including every add-on feature available including Drive Pilot.
@@MessiahAI the video wasn't drive pilot,...
Thanks for doing this Omar . Clear winner but media will say something different 😂
"There are people standing there, atleast have mercy on people" This got me laughing all through till the end....
Ive driven my friends 2015 S550..it has the same basic assist features. Lane keep. Steering assist. Dystronic cruise. This 2024 EQS is basically using the same tech and behaves exaxtly the same as the 2105. It will try to turn but cant do it. It buzzs the wheel and you have to guide it and then let go of the wheel. Even in highways with curves it can not handle it. It also ping pongs just like you described. Glad to see Mercedes is consistant if not anything else.
Mercedes Driver Assist looks like a Autopilot level not a EAP or FSD . but it cant follow the line precisely.
even autopilot can take that curves in the road without failing. this way worse than autopilot
because it is
shouldnt Consumer reports be investigated for this? the world has basically trusted them for the most critical defacto facts of comparisons on products and this has me scratching my head. some sort of behind closed door deal has happened here
Thats because the Level 3 Mercedes-System is only useable on a highway in certain conditions, it doesn't work like Tesla and was never advertised to work in our around cities. People should start to think for themselves but I suppose its easier to just follow the herd and believe everything^^ What you have seen in this video is a comparison between FSD and the "stupid" Mercedes Highway-Assist L2! In the city!!! There is no other car maker that offers a city assist, Omar should actually know that.
Ichigo trying SO hard, it’s entertaining.
@@ichigo19870 Ok so if it doesn't have even 10% of the capabilities of FSD, why is consumer reports giving it a 10/10 in capabilities ?
@@remigaillard4802 Probably because it was tested in the conditions it was made for??? And I suppose they also reward extra points for certain safety aspects that have nothing to do with the actual driving capabilties. Just watch the hogback challenge from out spec, they test a lot of cars on a really challenging highway. The Mercedes did a good job there and is only in 1st place because the system was awarded extra points for certain aspects otherwise the Tesla would have been 1st. Again, the CR doesn't need to be incorrect it all depends on the test and what they actually wanted to "measure"
@@ichigo19870 Capability : The ability to do something
If the mercedes autopilot can only somewhat stay in a line, at day, in clean weather, if there is a car ahead, on highways, and up to 45mph, then it shouldn't have a 10/10 in capabilities while FSD can drive in all weather, at night, on all roads and more and only has a 9.
That's the definition on capabilities.
Love your videos. Like what some of the others said, comparing FSD with the highest end version of whatever software the EQS has to offer would have been a more fair comparison.
Omg, love your dad's comments! So entertaining 🤩🤩🤩
Thanks, Omar. The Mercedes is going to cause real accidents from what I can see.😮
This is even worse than I thought, It's completely unsafe and requires way more interventions, even the nags are more frequent/ not in an orderly function... but, Elon man bad, tesla bad. Great comprising, 12.4 will be super interesting to see.
Heard about this video from SMR. Your father is full of wisdom.
thank you for making this public
Listen to your dad!
Your dads Model S underbody probably destroyed from the bumps :D