Great question! I'd say it's better than a lot of the more clunky peripherals of the time (Virtual Boy controller, Super Scope, etc.) but not quite as practical as the original N64 controller.
How did he even play Star Fox, GoldenEye, and SM64 on it since that its intended for PC only? And I didn't know that you get free hearts from him on every comments if you bought the 2 bucks channel membership?!?
@@nathanmead140 Yeah, but him being a Nintendo fan and pretty mich only talking about Nintendo, it is odd to see him running people over in GTA, which has been in seldom Nintendo consoles.
Saw LGR's video on this too, both really cool videos, I think it be a great crossover if you two did a video about all the random nintendo games that were on PC
“CZroe” here again. FYI, I’ve owned two of these sticks including one I purchased from the store new, but I also have a strange stick that uses an almost identical base/buttons with a different logo. I believe it’s a CH or Thrustmaster stick, so it seems Laral Group LLC was mostly just rebranding it with some tweaks. I got my Nintendo 3D-1 after it hit closeout stores but I also recall seeing the wireless headset at Software Etc around 1997 or 1998.
@@baconparty5586 **looks at literally every other game Nintendo has made for the switch** yeah they really do all have really bad graphics, especially legend of Zelda breath of the wild that has like 1600s graphics
My mom got me one of these joysticks in the late 90s from Big Lots (apparently the market wasn't demanding it) and I was thrilled! Good job, mom!! I still have it and treasure it! So glad you featured this! People don't believe me when I tell them about it. I wish yours was up to snuff and worked properly, though.
I played Goldeneye with a Microsoft Sidewinder very similar to your controller and It was super precise felt as though I was wielding an actual gun. You need to map turn to the twist functions and R to one of those tiny buttons on the stick. granted moving isn't the best but aiming feels super nice you can get head shots with ease.
“CZroe” here. My thought were a little more along these lines: Nintendo partnered with Laral Group LLC to bring a flight stick to the N64. Their competitors had flight stick options on Saturn and PlayStation, but the N64 ultimately didn’t really need it due to the analog thumbstick. Still, they bragged about having famed flight sim producers like Paradigm Simulation (Pilotwings 64), so it would make sense for them to hedge their bets... just like that North American 64DD that Metal Jesus Rocks featured which was seemingly ready for the USA way back when the console first launched (probably in case the cartridge format crashed and burned). Nintendo famously scuttled their deal with Sony and never released the PlayStation attachment for SNES by undermining it, even though they had an agreement. In the case of Laral Group LLC, it’s very possible that they were designing it as an N64 accessory that was canceled. The contract may have been written in such a way that allowed Laral Group to move ahead with their designs in one way or another even if Nintendo canceled the supporting games or N64 accessory... kinda like a Plan B or exit clause. It would certainly explain it, a bit like the near-inexplicable CD-i Zelda and Mario games. ;)
"We all know Nintendo has a tenancy to change a contract" Sounds like something that happened to a company that starts with an S and ended up taking the top from Nintendo.
I have no idea who had that when I was a kid, it certainly wasn't my family since we weren't a nintendo household. But I remember the feel of that joystick in my hand, and the sensation of those buttons, it was incredibly comfortable and pleasant to use. Especially when compared to standard joysticks for home use at the time, the classic stick with a ball on top kind, with one or two buttons at the base, and one button on the top.
Interesting to see you cover a retro PC peripheral. I'm into old computer stuff myself and I recall LGR covered this joystick as well. From what I remember, he said it really wasn't anything spectacular as far as flight sticks go, which I think I believe. Also worth stating, the "directional pad" you pointed out at the top is actually called a "point of view hat". You usually use it to look to the left or right in combat games. The analog slider is also called a "throttle", since you usually use it to get your vehicle going. I liked your idea of emulating some N64 games with it. Star Fox 64 seems like quite an experience with this.
@Nintendrew one trick I use to restore old analog sticks is electrical contact cleaner just spray the inside of the stick assembly on the board inside with a generous amount of the spray and move the sticks around then let its sit for about a day just to be on the safe side to let the cleaner evaporate
I have like three game port controllers (sadly, none of them this Nintendo beauty). I remember getting each one. You have no idea how old this video made me feel.
This was the first time in *months* (and in 2019) that I watched one of your videos. I'm so glad that I watched it. I had no idea that the NJS-3D1 existed until now. 🤓
7:11 I think for a third-party peripheral for the N64. I think you third-party flight stick compatible with the console can be great when used for games like Sox.
I had one of them, I am sure I got it at a clearance price. It was a solid built joystick, every feature needed in the day. Eventually replaced by a Sidewinder 3d, which had better sensitivity and gave finer control. I am not sure how much that one has aged, but maybe it wasn't all that wonderfully more accurate in the day based on what I remember of mine new out of the box.
Every time I see one of these pop up on these Retro Gaming channels, it makes me smile. Me and my friends ALL had these back in the day and we never knew they weren't a household item that everyone knew 😂. I think we got them at big lots or compusa deeply discounted.
That jitter is likely from tarnished internal variable resistors/potentiometers/sliders. Without seeing the insides, I can't tell you which it uses for the axis, but the two pack Deoxic DB5, and Deoxic fader lube should be able to fix this. Drown the pots in the correct chemical, then actuate it a hundred times or so, check on pc if it is fixed, repeat as needed. This will clean the buttons as well.
I have a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 PC joystick, which has the same number of inputs as the Nintendo 3D1. And the one game I play most with my Sidewinder 2 just happens to be Star Fox 64. Playing that game with a flight joystick is a totally different experience than with a controller, almost as if I was playing an entirely different game.
This definitely is pretty weird considering Nintendo doesn’t make a whole lot of peripherals for other platforms (if any), but it’s still cool nonetheless. As always I loved the editing in the video, keep up the good work!
Ahh~ the first bgm you used here always gives me a good laugh, the GB Camera is still one of my favorite GB parts. However, speaking of the joystick... I dunno. It'd make sense if it was meant for the N64 given there are also official joysticks for its predecessors. You however must be happy to own that game, pretty sure it is a rare item these days.
My Phenom II PC's motherboard from 2009 has that connector as a pin header, so somewhat modern pc should pick it up. You might need a wrapper such as x360ce for it to be seen by the games, but could work. As for the wear, try dissasembly it and give it a good clean, most of the time is enough to get it working properly again
The Joystick probably needs to be calibrated. That was common to do even at the time. It can be done in the Joystick settings menu. That would probably fix the input issues.
Nah, not at all. I calibrated it thoroughly - believe me, I did my best to get it functioning. 😉 I also took apart the whole thing to inspect the analog stick mechanism, but it was very different from what I'm used to seeing so I wasn't able to fully disassemble it. In the end, using about half a can of compressed air helped take away about 50% of the problem, and that's when I decided it was good enough to start recording.
Could just be an issue with that weird serial to usb adapter. That would be a pretty cool adapter to have around honestly. Some of the best flight sticks were only serial port.
Weird. Must be a damaged flight stick then because I just rewatched the LGR episode on this and everything functioned properly when he went right into the serial port.
I used to have a joystick when I played flight sim, I don't think the games chosen were giving true justice to the actual capacities of this beautiful piece of vintage
I find it suspect that this joystick would be made for the N64 since the system never received any flight simulation games that had features that could be fully mimicked with a flight stick, and while the toggle 3 option would make it somewhat ideal for fighting games......we all know thats the last thing Nintendo's 5th generation console was known for.
I would love to see a stream where you play retro/modern games, I know that's not what you do, but it would be cool to try streaming for once. Just a suggestion that I thought I should tell you.
Drew, if you were to rank this controller from every other Nintendo controller, where would you place it? 🤔
Nathaniel why aren't you a member of the Nintendrew channel
First to reply
Great question! I'd say it's better than a lot of the more clunky peripherals of the time (Virtual Boy controller, Super Scope, etc.) but not quite as practical as the original N64 controller.
I like the foreshadowing to your controllers video
@@Nintendrew I feel like that's where I would place it too. I'd love to try it out whenever we meet up again!
everyone: xbox live is coming to switch!
nintendrew: LOOK WHAT I FOUND LOL
So is Banjo
I still have a 360 =(
Leah GooDa You ain’t alone,I also have an Xbox 360 XD
Yea
What
HAHAHA
Drew: * Tries SM64 with joystick. *
then immediately after
* Tries GTA 5 with joystick. *
LOL
How did he even play Star Fox, GoldenEye, and SM64 on it since that its intended for PC only? And I didn't know that you get free hearts from him on every comments if you bought the 2 bucks channel membership?!?
@@BRUNOvsALADEEN emulators
@@BRUNOvsALADEEN He entered the mysterious world of emulation.
Well THAT escalated quickly.
Someone will speedrun Mario 64 with that
I'll get SimpleFlips right on it
Nintendrew that would be the best thing ever
@@Nintendrew Send it to him and challange him it would be fun
Good luck to anyone is up to the challenge
NB will
IDK about y'all, but the idea of Nintendrew mowing down civilians in GTAV feels weird to me.
He's been infected by Playstaysean and Xboxjuan!
But that's what ur supposed to do
@@nathanmead140 Yeah, but him being a Nintendo fan and pretty mich only talking about Nintendo, it is odd to see him running people over in GTA, which has been in seldom Nintendo consoles.
What next? Postal 2 (the most family friendly game in the world)
Is the only way to think of him though
PC = Personal Computer
PC Computers
DC= Detective Comics.
DC Comics.
ras syndrome strikes again!
Reminds me of "HIV-Virus"...
I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Now what's my PIN number again...
@@DevinGates there's a fee, so get some cash from ATM machine.
I saw one of those at my pre- School, because my School used to have a N64 and had a pc that had Mario’s missing and Mario’s time machine! Nice video
Yes
LET ME GO TOO THAT GODDAMN SCHOOL IDC IF IM TOO OLD TOO GO TO PRESCHOOL
Manufactured exclusively by Laral. But not Yanny, of course.
LOL!
AnotherTypicalGenius
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AnotherTypicalNerd that can’t be the case! They are the same company!
Why did you say Yanny twice?
Dude I had no idea this even existed enjoyed the video keep up the good work!
I saw this joystick on LGR a long time ago. Great see you review it.
I remember seeing this on lazy game reviews, nice video!
he already made it
here is a link ua-cam.com/video/lOof7nrsOko/v-deo.html
@@bnerd1 that's why he remember it ;)
This vid is totally up LGR's ally.
I didn't watch his video yet, but I bet he tested it on Duke Nukem 3D.
@@parker_aug2 yes...yes he did.
I watched lgr's video awhile ago (it also came up in my "watch this next" on this video too)
Your videos just keep getting better. Thanks for all the hard work buddy!
I'm so glad I found your channel! So excited to see your videos
Never heard of this one! Great deep dive, Drew!
Man this is so cool! I hope I find one of those out in a thrift store or yard sale. Thanks for making videos like these.
medicom Collector you watch NintenDrew too!
medicom Collector
i cant find it on ebay so thrift store or yard sale may be the only way
I found one
I had never seen your channel before until about 12 hours ago. Then, rn I watched NB's video, what a coincidence!
That mario kart DS theme in the background is giving me nostalgia :)
The GameBoy Camera music is more nostalgic to me albeit I have to admit MKDS now indeed enters retro territory.
I remember going off this channel like a year ago, I'm proud the amount your channel has grown and I've resubscribed
Saw LGR's video on this too, both really cool videos, I think it be a great crossover if you two did a video about all the random nintendo games that were on PC
a man can dream.
A fellow lGR viewer, greetings!
Pretty smooth flyin,' Fox...
Thanks
LOL
“CZroe” here again. FYI, I’ve owned two of these sticks including one I purchased from the store new, but I also have a strange stick that uses an almost identical base/buttons with a different logo. I believe it’s a CH or Thrustmaster stick, so it seems Laral Group LLC was mostly just rebranding it with some tweaks. I got my Nintendo 3D-1 after it hit closeout stores but I also recall seeing the wireless headset at Software Etc around 1997 or 1998.
Nintendo: makes product for PC
Nintendo fans:
Wait. That's illegal.
*Smash Bros is coming to pc confirmed*
@@baconparty5586
Calm down dude, you're taking this joke a little too seriously
@@baconparty5586 wow dude you must be fun at parties
@@baconparty5586 **looks at literally every other game Nintendo has made for the switch** yeah they really do all have really bad graphics, especially legend of Zelda breath of the wild that has like 1600s graphics
@@baconparty5586 J.G. Jonny was just making a joke. Calm down!
They should release Smash Bros for PC with advertised new GCN Pro controller for Windows 10.
My mom got me one of these joysticks in the late 90s from Big Lots (apparently the market wasn't demanding it) and I was thrilled! Good job, mom!! I still have it and treasure it! So glad you featured this! People don't believe me when I tell them about it. I wish yours was up to snuff and worked properly, though.
I want a collaboration between *Scott The Woz* and *Nintendrew.*
😍🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻😍
1:08 - The "circular directional pad" is a hat-switch.
I played Goldeneye with a Microsoft Sidewinder very similar to your controller and It was super precise felt as though I was wielding an actual gun. You need to map turn to the twist functions and R to one of those tiny buttons on the stick. granted moving isn't the best but aiming feels super nice you can get head shots with ease.
This is really cool. A Nintendo joystick
I never realised how much I wanted to play Lylat Wars with a joystick until now
“CZroe” here. My thought were a little more along these lines:
Nintendo partnered with Laral Group LLC to bring a flight stick to the N64. Their competitors had flight stick options on Saturn and PlayStation, but the N64 ultimately didn’t really need it due to the analog thumbstick. Still, they bragged about having famed flight sim producers like Paradigm Simulation (Pilotwings 64), so it would make sense for them to hedge their bets... just like that North American 64DD that Metal Jesus Rocks featured which was seemingly ready for the USA way back when the console first launched (probably in case the cartridge format crashed and burned).
Nintendo famously scuttled their deal with Sony and never released the PlayStation attachment for SNES by undermining it, even though they had an agreement. In the case of Laral Group LLC, it’s very possible that they were designing it as an N64 accessory that was canceled. The contract may have been written in such a way that allowed Laral Group to move ahead with their designs in one way or another even if Nintendo canceled the supporting games or N64 accessory... kinda like a Plan B or exit clause. It would certainly explain it, a bit like the near-inexplicable CD-i Zelda and Mario games. ;)
"We all know Nintendo has a tenancy to change a contract" Sounds like something that happened to a company that starts with an S and ended up taking the top from Nintendo.
Wow! Didn't even know this was a thing! Very informative and amazing content as always, Nintendrew. Keep it up!!
Now there is going to be “Beating Super Mario Odyssey with a Nintendo PC Joystick”
I have no idea who had that when I was a kid, it certainly wasn't my family since we weren't a nintendo household.
But I remember the feel of that joystick in my hand, and the sensation of those buttons, it was incredibly comfortable and pleasant to use. Especially when compared to standard joysticks for home use at the time, the classic stick with a ball on top kind, with one or two buttons at the base, and one button on the top.
Found one of these a few months ago and almost picked it up until i realized it wasn't N64 compatible, great video!
Who knew yanny was involved with nintendo.
Edit:fixing mistakes
*knew... Not new. Smh
Imagine someone bringing this to a tournament
Hell yeah! New vid! You are the best Drew!
Interesting to see you cover a retro PC peripheral. I'm into old computer stuff myself and I recall LGR covered this joystick as well. From what I remember, he said it really wasn't anything spectacular as far as flight sticks go, which I think I believe.
Also worth stating, the "directional pad" you pointed out at the top is actually called a "point of view hat". You usually use it to look to the left or right in combat games. The analog slider is also called a "throttle", since you usually use it to get your vehicle going.
I liked your idea of emulating some N64 games with it. Star Fox 64 seems like quite an experience with this.
ur vids are really asteticly and visually pleasing to the eye.
Nintendrew channels his inner LGR. I jest as I love learning about stuff such as this so keep up the awesome work Drew :D
Nintendo joystick almost two decades old = Half Life 3 for Switch confirmed!
@Nintendrew one trick I use to restore old analog sticks is electrical contact cleaner just spray the inside of the stick assembly on the board inside with a generous amount of the spray and move the sticks around then let its sit for about a day just to be on the safe side to let the cleaner evaporate
I have like three game port controllers (sadly, none of them this Nintendo beauty). I remember getting each one. You have no idea how old this video made me feel.
Nintendo has done alot of weird things, but this is the weirdest by far
New Nintendrew video
Yessss
NJS-3D1 would probably work good with Mario paint
"For use with Personal Computer computers only"
This was the first time in *months* (and in 2019) that I watched one of your videos. I'm so glad that I watched it. I had no idea that the NJS-3D1 existed until now. 🤓
"I don't have a 20 year old PC lying around."
Where's LGR when you need him?
Never knew this was a thing, this is awesome!
1:58
Man, that music choice made me smile
Dang imagine seeing nintendo as a competitor for sony electronics like headphones or competitor to pc companies.
swiss001 might discover this joystick
8:36 how I drive in games
Nintendrew is just Calm Video Game Nerd yet i love him anyway
7:11 I think for a third-party peripheral for the N64. I think you third-party flight stick compatible with the console can be great when used for games like Sox.
PC Computers??
Personal Computer..Computers..
Nice
Soaky Soup that just shows the arrogance of people with computers in the 90s
I had one of them, I am sure I got it at a clearance price. It was a solid built joystick, every feature needed in the day. Eventually replaced by a Sidewinder 3d, which had better sensitivity and gave finer control. I am not sure how much that one has aged, but maybe it wasn't all that wonderfully more accurate in the day based on what I remember of mine new out of the box.
I’ve actually never heard of this before! Nice video
Nice Video Drew!
Every time I see one of these pop up on these Retro Gaming channels, it makes me smile. Me and my friends ALL had these back in the day and we never knew they weren't a household item that everyone knew 😂. I think we got them at big lots or compusa deeply discounted.
I can appreciate that your shirt says END just before the outro.
I already knew about this, I watched it on LGR. Nice video
This controller would've have probably been fun to use on a game like Pilotwings 64 as well.
That jitter is likely from tarnished internal variable resistors/potentiometers/sliders. Without seeing the insides, I can't tell you which it uses for the axis, but the two pack Deoxic DB5, and Deoxic fader lube should be able to fix this. Drown the pots in the correct chemical, then actuate it a hundred times or so, check on pc if it is fixed, repeat as needed. This will clean the buttons as well.
Also a friend of mine is getting into retro console/controller repair, if you ever want someone to take a look at it.
0:23 I don’t think I would use the stick for gta... I mean, I might try it!
I have a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 PC joystick, which has the same number of inputs as the Nintendo 3D1. And the one game I play most with my Sidewinder 2 just happens to be Star Fox 64. Playing that game with a flight joystick is a totally different experience than with a controller, almost as if I was playing an entirely different game.
This definitely is pretty weird considering Nintendo doesn’t make a whole lot of peripherals for other platforms (if any), but it’s still cool nonetheless. As always I loved the editing in the video, keep up the good work!
Sound blaster cards often have game ports on them, SB Live is widely available for cheap and like 90% of them have DOS support and hardware game port.
Love ur channel
Ahh~ the first bgm you used here always gives me a good laugh, the GB Camera is still one of my favorite GB parts.
However, speaking of the joystick... I dunno.
It'd make sense if it was meant for the N64 given there are also official joysticks for its predecessors.
You however must be happy to own that game, pretty sure it is a rare item these days.
All we need now is Pilotwings for PC!
I like your coffee table Drew🤘🤘
I saw one at my local Goodwill... I regret not getting it. :((
My Phenom II PC's motherboard from 2009 has that connector as a pin header, so somewhat modern pc should pick it up. You might need a wrapper such as x360ce for it to be seen by the games, but could work.
As for the wear, try dissasembly it and give it a good clean, most of the time is enough to get it working properly again
Another excellent video
The Joystick probably needs to be calibrated. That was common to do even at the time. It can be done in the Joystick settings menu. That would probably fix the input issues.
Nah, not at all. I calibrated it thoroughly - believe me, I did my best to get it functioning. 😉 I also took apart the whole thing to inspect the analog stick mechanism, but it was very different from what I'm used to seeing so I wasn't able to fully disassemble it. In the end, using about half a can of compressed air helped take away about 50% of the problem, and that's when I decided it was good enough to start recording.
@@Nintendrew ah, gotcha. Oh well. Sometimes old tech just be like that.
Could just be an issue with that weird serial to usb adapter. That would be a pretty cool adapter to have around honestly. Some of the best flight sticks were only serial port.
@@LungMing23 I don't think it is. I've seen the adapter used with other flight sticks and it works perfectly. Never used one personally though.
Weird. Must be a damaged flight stick then because I just rewatched the LGR episode on this and everything functioned properly when he went right into the serial port.
LGR × Nintendrew would be nice
I was a kid in the 90s.... My freinds had N64 and I had PC and playstation one. I have Never herd of this... thankyou . interesting stuff
5:35 😂😂😂that killed me for some reason I thought it would be USB for some reason.
3:38 yanni group are the pll who hear yanni but personaly i hear kafeffi
You've got one cool ass collection man...
Who would have guessed Nintendo made a computer controller?
Nintendo themselves?
well, all of their controllers work on PC since the Wii...
and even earlier with adapters
@@elgeniomaestro yeah but they meant one made specifically for pc
6:05 Is it not possible to get a PCIe gameport card and install that?
I used to have a joystick when I played flight sim, I don't think the games chosen were giving true justice to the actual capacities of this beautiful piece of vintage
I love the Toshiba scream in the background
I find it suspect that this joystick would be made for the N64 since the system never received any flight simulation games that had features that could be fully mimicked with a flight stick, and while the toggle 3 option would make it somewhat ideal for fighting games......we all know thats the last thing Nintendo's 5th generation console was known for.
Starfox! 😂
@@bulletproofair thats one decent example, but no odd duck controller is worth it for a single game
Yay! I was shocked when I saw it and you said PC only.
I saw this in a PC Gamer mag in the 90s (Quake II issue). Could never find it again.
I actually found out about this vid because of nathanel bandys vid about controllers but i was already subed to nitendrew
I love your vids there perfect for me keep it up my guy
I would love to see a stream where you play retro/modern games, I know that's not what you do, but it would be cool to try streaming for once. Just a suggestion that I thought I should tell you.
I never knew I needed that headphone system until today..
I collect headphones and video games, and holy crap does that marry the two in a good way
do you make videos for fun or for a livibg beacuse your underrated
Good video but where's Clint from LGR??
That footage with star fox makes me wish it was still made to try it myself.
the intro is basically him flexing his nintendo console colection on us. thats why i like it! (i know i spelt one wrong
I read the description as "In this video, we'll check out the Nintendo 3DS Joystick for PC"