Not with lithium ion batteries and a subcontracted AC induction motor from say, Tesla: For a piece of the action Elon Musk might cut a deal as a shareholder (and he has factory space). I really can't see how an electric version would flop - but this gasoline version is designed for off-the-shelf infrastructure as an immediate priority; which is the most practical strategy for now.
+Lacider ~ If they are FWD, the car may have torque steer issues if built with a lot of power. Also, I see what looks like exposed rotating axles in the front...if so, they may need to look at putting an outer tube over those. Road hazards may get caught up in those. Put it this way...good thing cassette tapes are mostly obsolete.
+G Philip C 8-tracks for the win baby yeah!! :P Sometimes older tech works better, me personally I'd opt for more user serviceability over ever so slightly more reliability, like any good motorcycle.
***** My first player was a Muntz 4 & 8 track. Great Sound! for the times (late 60's early 70's). A bit later on... Do you remember when you would see the broken Cassette "ribbons" along the road shoulders? Get that caught up on a drive shaft and it gets into a seal...$$$.
This will make for a great commuter car because I see huge trucks, SUV's, mini vans, cars and even smaller cars with one person in them driving to work. This is what most people need for getting to work or running errands.
elio is now taking reservations for electric car i think they emailed at least some of their email subscribers from years ago about it. theres also aptera ,otors, nobe motors, shockwave motors
+Tuan Nguyen Your Window to Purchase Elio Motors Shares is Now Open!This is a historic day! With our authorization by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Elio Motors has now opened an exclusive 7-day window for those who expressed interest during the “Testing the Waters” phase to purchase shares. What this also means is that Elio Motors has launched the largest public stock sale to date under the new Regulation A+, at $25 million. This is a significant milestone in moving the company closer to producing our innovative, enclosed, three-wheel vehicle that will get up to 84 MPG with a targeted $6,800 base price. You now have the unique opportunity to join us in our efforts by becoming a shareholder in Elio Motors, however, we encourage you to act quickly!The 7-Day WindowThe 7-day window will consist of 7 business days. With the Thanksgiving holiday, this maximizes your ability to purchase shares. While you may still purchase shares over weekends and the Thanksgiving holiday, the 7-day window will extend until Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 3 pm PST. The Stock Purchase Process Here are the essential steps for purchasing your shares in Elio Motors: Visit the Elio Motors StartEngine Page at www.startengine.com/startup/elio-motors
Congratulation that you made it to the show. I follow you already for some time. The new front is a big improvement. Fingers crossed that you can deliver
I think it is advisable to put lights on both front fenders. Pedestrians and other vehicles will mistakenly assume the safe distance is measured by the body of the vehicle and not the fenders.
I like the previous prototype, the green or silver Elio with wide front wheels and tires. It looks sooooo much better. How come they're not showcasing those right now?
i'm so excited for this company, I hope they the attention they deserve. Presentation needs to be more mainstream but I'm no PR expert. I just want more people to see this.
Very unique car perfect for me. I graduate from college with a degree in nursing when this thing is released. Sounds fun to have and great for long drives!
They have an empty factory, they aren't paying rent on it, they have no money, They are trying to raise enough money to build test cars for a Million dollars each. My hat is safe.
+Floyd Matson Where did you read that? Not on his website, twitter, facebook, or in financial news sites. His website does say $70Million raised but that is money already raised and spent. I'm not going to register at that brokerage just to get his prospectus but you can read about it here: jalopnik.com/the-difference-between-elios-crowdfunding-pitch-and-and-1744213503 Wow, reading the SEC filing. They had only $160,000 in the bank back in June of this yearr, no revenue at all, and have a Million dollar note due 12/31 and are currently skipping payments on a $10 Million dollar note. They owe $2Million to the landlord in Shreveport. Read the Jalopnik article and hit the links.
I saw the prototype version of it on ChrisFix channel, and I loved it!, too bad I live in El Salvador :/, when will it come out worldwide production? if you mind asking.
+Jonathan Swain This is test mule, most likely real world reviews will happen when it goes into production. They have made zero, this is number 5 of different versions for testing...closer to production hopefully.
+Randal Farnsworth They've done reviews in the earlier prototypes, I would expect they would want the positive press of the more refined bits, especially the drivetrain (once they make sure it's presentable, of course). Since they are still needing to raise quite a bit of money, I can't see them not getting these out for review some.
robert hoffman the old ones had geo engines, etc. The new engine is one of the things new with this set. So the question is how their new engine changes the experience from the old prototypes with 20+ yr old engine designs. Small engines have come a long way in 20yrs.
Hey Paul, I was having trouble understanding the questions...next time could you repeat them into the mic for us? Thanks, and I can't wait till I can buy one!
Stable!... With the two wheels in front, it will not roll, like the Reliant Robin was prone to. Plus having front wheel drive, it will have an advantage of the engine sitting above the drive wheels.
Since the car is front wheel drive, the rear wheel will just follow on the center snow mound. Just as if the wheel was the first to run thru it. Ever drive on snow before anyone else ?
This isn't a "three wheel drive car".It is front wheel drive. And the third wheel in the middle does not "Bounce" all over the place. That is like saying that a tractor trailer rig will slide all over just because the trailer has no drive wheels... Yes there is the issue for the unenlightened driver, but having driven some of the older cars of this type, there is no real difference even in the snow, which I drive on all the time...
I probably missed it but what type of a driver's license do we use to be able to drive this, motorcycle license or your regular car driver's license should do it?
I looked at a couple of websites with articles regarding this new P5 Elio reveal at the LA auto show. Both of those sites say that the Elio will start being produced in 4th quarter 2016 & the price will be $9000. Whatever happened to $6800? Where are they getting this $9000 price tag at?
i like the idea of the ELIO however i want to know even more about the car . All the time that i look at it i hear the ceo paul elio more and more . i just want to know more about the car please.
+floyd harrison - the website is LOADED with info, and there are reviews from several sources right here on YT. I just watched on by Autobytel that was great =) Their Facebook page is very busy, and responses to questions are pretty quick as well. But, I'd recommend the website first- I was able to learn a LOT on the website. =)
So I have been wondering how resistant they are to damage from potholes, In nova scotia about where I live 8" deep holes in the middle of the road are pretty common in areas with speed limits up to 90km/hr The kind of holes my 2010 cobalt hits hard enough to give you a good jar. My father wrecked a tire on the roads near I live going 60km/hr in an 70km/hr zone putting enough force to slightly bend the rim (but it's still useable) on his 2006 optra with low profile tires. Also does the elio come stock with a low profile style tires or more traditional ones. And is there any options when it comes to wheel and tire types?
Since so many people have made a deposit without a test drive, if and when the vehicle is finally delivered, I predict we will see several of these for sale as used vehicles because the buyer was dissapointed with something about it. I for one would love to have one and plan to wait for one to show up used and buy it if I like the test drive. :-)
Please I want pictures and video of it. Also!! That new trim work for the muffler, I will be ok with it...IF!!! you make a matching piece for the other side that has a split for the door.
Since it is classed as a motorcycle, does this mean helmets will be required in some states, along with a special motorcycle license? Has there been discussion on if it can circumvent these issues? That could make the insurance cost of them very prohibitive as well, earl silly for younger drivers, and needlessly given the roll cage and air bags.
Paul PLEASE get rid of the Tonka Toy gauges in the final product. I love the car and honestly plan on eventually getting one but those gauges are almost a deal killer for me. Please keep driving forward, you and your team are really doing an amazing thing.
Ok, as a _huge_ Aptera fan I was a bit skeptical, but after watching the review done by 'ChrisFix' in June I've got to say that this little thing would make a *great* third car for us. Not sure that delivery will happen in 2016 and the $6800 price tag seems low, even for such a basic car, but for Elio to get this far, most impressive.
America needs something like this. everywhere else in the world is fuel efficient because motorcycles are alot more common and with theese as competition and a similar price point I can see them doing well with the people that fear motorcycles in America. solid concept. I'd put a sunroof option and the standard transmition.
Spartin11794 this is still way behind motorcycles, we can park wherever, filter throw traffic, lightweight, Maintaince is cheap or can be done by yourself, you can get one for half the price of that, with the speed of a porche. this is still as bulky as a car. Even if they claim that it gives 84mpg you have to ask "under what circumstances". remember when someone sells something they do the best they can to get good numbers. and let's say it can do 8mpg, the 2nd question is, well how many gallons can it hold per tank.
Congratulations Elio Motors on the unveiling!
I bet you could get some funding signing a deal with a large pizza chain as their flagship delivery vehicles. Also an electric version would be sweet.
Not with lithium ion batteries and a subcontracted AC induction motor from say, Tesla: For a piece of the action Elon Musk might cut a deal as a shareholder (and he has factory space). I really can't see how an electric version would flop - but this gasoline version is designed for off-the-shelf infrastructure as an immediate priority; which is the most practical strategy for now.
100eyes were do you plan to charge your batteries then?
its more efficient then a fucking smart car
what more could you ask for?
Are they ever going to actually make this freaking car!?
That space by the headers is just begging for a turbo.
+Lacider he talked once about the possibility of a turbo in a later model.
+Lacider ~ If they are FWD, the car may have torque steer issues if built with a lot of power. Also, I see what looks like exposed rotating axles in the front...if so, they may need to look at putting an outer tube over those. Road hazards may get caught up in those. Put it this way...good thing cassette tapes are mostly obsolete.
+G Philip C 8-tracks for the win baby yeah!! :P Sometimes older tech works better, me personally I'd opt for more user serviceability over ever so slightly more reliability, like any good motorcycle.
***** My first player was a Muntz 4 & 8 track. Great Sound! for the times (late 60's early 70's). A bit later on... Do you remember when you would see the broken Cassette "ribbons" along the road shoulders? Get that caught up on a drive shaft and it gets into a seal...$$$.
it is begging for one and for people talking about torque steer issues, our 2014 jeep Cherokee has torque steer issues lolololol
This will make for a great commuter car because I see huge trucks, SUV's, mini vans, cars and even smaller cars with one person in them driving to work. This is what most people need for getting to work or running errands.
What a great idea and really good initial planning!! This will be a success.
I'm loving the new design.
I can't wait to get one of these. PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
I sure hope this becomes a reality. I will buy one once it does.
elio is now taking reservations for electric car i think they emailed at least some of their email subscribers from years ago about it. theres also aptera ,otors, nobe motors, shockwave motors
Alright, alright, alright, alright .... now that's what I'm talking about!!! I'm # 6124 and an investor so I'm soooooooooo "All In"
+RancherUSAFLA how can i invest in them?
+Tuan Nguyen Your Window to Purchase Elio Motors Shares is Now Open!This is a historic day! With our authorization by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Elio Motors has now opened an exclusive 7-day window for those who expressed interest during the “Testing the Waters” phase to purchase shares. What this also means is that Elio Motors has launched the largest public stock sale to date under the new Regulation A+, at $25 million. This is a significant milestone in moving the company closer to producing our innovative, enclosed, three-wheel vehicle that will get up to 84 MPG with a targeted $6,800 base price. You now have the unique opportunity to join us in our efforts by becoming a shareholder in Elio Motors, however, we encourage you to act quickly!The 7-Day WindowThe 7-day window will consist of 7 business days. With the Thanksgiving holiday, this maximizes your ability to purchase shares. While you may still purchase shares over weekends and the Thanksgiving holiday, the 7-day window will extend until Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 3 pm PST. The Stock Purchase Process Here are the essential steps for purchasing your shares in Elio Motors: Visit the Elio Motors StartEngine Page at www.startengine.com/startup/elio-motors
+Tuan Nguyen eliomotors.com
+Matthew Blust Well, Yeah ... that's the short answer!!! LOL
+RancherUSAFLA How do you find out what number you are? I've put $100 down after there were already maybe 40,000 in.
Congratulation that you made it to the show. I follow you already for some time. The new front is a big improvement.
Fingers crossed that you can deliver
Looking forward to it!
What a nice design! Kudos to Elio Motors. I reserved one.
I think it is advisable to put lights on both front fenders. Pedestrians and other vehicles will mistakenly assume the safe distance is measured by the body of the vehicle and not the fenders.
What an evolution from the P2... Super Looking Autocycle ... can't wait for the two we are getting... ow just need the REG A+ to go through
This is going to be a GREAT option for my children's first car! Can't wait!\
I love the concept of using what is out there in parts and working with Pep Boys to repair them. I would love to see an electric version.
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I like the previous prototype, the green or silver Elio with wide front wheels and tires. It looks sooooo much better. How come they're not showcasing those right now?
Very excited to see this happen and will be following along, hopefully to launch. I'd be proud to own one.
Not gonna lie. This got me a bit more excited.
Epic, definitely aiming to buy this
i'm so excited for this company, I hope they the attention they deserve. Presentation needs to be more mainstream but I'm no PR expert. I just want more people to see this.
Very unique car perfect for me. I graduate from college with a degree in nursing when this thing is released. Sounds fun to have and great for long drives!
100 percent for sure Will be my first car
I'm all in for one!👍
This makes so much more sense than a smart car.
smart cars are quite expensive tho.
I will eat my hat if they ever go into production.
+Alberto Knox I'll hand you the condiments....
They have an empty factory, they aren't paying rent on it, they have no money, They are trying to raise enough money to build test cars for a Million dollars each.
My hat is safe.
+Alberto Knox ...as you wish!
+Alberto Knox well, they raised the money to build the test cars. Would you like an update with every milestone until they roll out production?
+Floyd Matson Where did you read that? Not on his website, twitter, facebook, or in financial news sites. His website does say $70Million raised but that is money already raised and spent. I'm not going to register at that brokerage just to get his prospectus but you can read about it here: jalopnik.com/the-difference-between-elios-crowdfunding-pitch-and-and-1744213503
Wow, reading the SEC filing. They had only $160,000 in the bank back in June of this yearr, no revenue at all, and have a Million dollar note due 12/31 and are currently skipping payments on a $10 Million dollar note. They owe $2Million to the landlord in Shreveport. Read the Jalopnik article and hit the links.
I saw the prototype version of it on ChrisFix channel, and I loved it!, too bad I live in El Salvador :/, when will it come out worldwide production? if you mind asking.
When does the electric Elio version come out?
now the question is when is the release date of these cars?
I'm totally buying one of these as soon as I pay off my truck.
BEE U TEE FULL! Can't wait for mine. I like the red, too. Pretty engine. This is a huge milestone.
when is it going into production?
I'm looking forward to some video reviews of the new version with the new engine... make it happen soon please!
+Jonathan Swain This is test mule, most likely real world reviews will happen when it goes into production. They have made zero, this is number 5 of different versions for testing...closer to production hopefully.
+Randal Farnsworth They've done reviews in the earlier prototypes, I would expect they would want the positive press of the more refined bits, especially the drivetrain (once they make sure it's presentable, of course). Since they are still needing to raise quite a bit of money, I can't see them not getting these out for review some.
+Jonathan Swain Go find an old geo and take it for a drive?
robert hoffman the old ones had geo engines, etc. The new engine is one of the things new with this set. So the question is how their new engine changes the experience from the old prototypes with 20+ yr old engine designs. Small engines have come a long way in 20yrs.
When are you coming to Salt Lake City?
Someday I WILL own one of these!!!!!!!!
Can you imagine someone presenting like this at an Apple keynote? It's more of an apology press conference than an unveiling!
Just one question, how are the dealings going with the three or four states with helmet laws?
I really hope this comes together
Hey Paul, I was having trouble understanding the questions...next time could you repeat them into the mic for us? Thanks, and I can't wait till I can buy one!
That super charger room
Yesss, it is Here!
when r u going to start delivering them to customers?
3 ML for their hotel stay promoting one car.
Any plans for an electric model or a diesel?
This is a great idea and I wish the best of luck to them bringing this to market, but PEPBOYS for servicing?? I bet that turns out to be a mistake.
How do you change the rear wheel and does it have a spare tire??
congrats and good luck and good fortune for yall!
This would be awesome to drive to school with
What kind of warranties come with this car?
I'll wait until its actually in production AND I want one with an automatic transmission!!!
How would it do in the snow though?
Have safety tests been done
5 star ratings
Jason MIlls 5 star for 3 wheelers, it's not as strict as 4 wheelers
when does production start?
It's projected for 4th quarter 2016
+fanfare100 O K … that's 2 yrs. later than what l was originally told the car would be available
+csea peru Yes, they are delayed. They're hoping everything will be ok with this latest round of funding.
Best wishes! I think this is a very compelling vehicle.
So how would this car be during winter with snow and ice
khalid mohamed ... think about it... narrow tires, majority of your weight is centered...
Stable!... With the two wheels in front, it will not roll, like the Reliant Robin was prone to. Plus having front wheel drive, it will have an advantage of the engine sitting above the drive wheels.
khalid mohamed you need 4x4 truck or Subaru
Since the car is front wheel drive, the rear wheel will just follow on the center snow mound. Just as if the wheel was the first to run thru it. Ever drive on snow before anyone else ?
This isn't a "three wheel drive car".It is front wheel drive. And the third wheel in the middle does not "Bounce" all over the place. That is like saying that a tractor trailer rig will slide all over just because the trailer has no drive wheels...
Yes there is the issue for the unenlightened driver, but having driven some of the older cars of this type, there is no real difference even in the snow, which I drive on all the time...
I probably missed it but what type of a driver's license do we use to be able to drive this, motorcycle license or your regular car driver's license should do it?
Regular car license.
How do you purchase one?
Paul has a red cup! Merry Christmas Paul!
I looked at a couple of websites with articles regarding this new P5 Elio reveal at the LA auto show. Both of those sites say that the Elio will start being produced in 4th quarter 2016 & the price will be $9000. Whatever happened to $6800? Where are they getting this $9000 price tag at?
An Amazing looking Vehicle!
Here is my question, who would you get an alignment for a 3 wheel car?
I want my Elio ASAP. All in!
i like the idea of the ELIO however i want to know even more about the car . All the time that i look at it i hear the ceo paul elio more and more . i just want to know more about the car please.
+floyd harrison - the website is LOADED with info, and there are reviews from several sources right here on YT. I just watched on by Autobytel that was great =)
Their Facebook page is very busy, and responses to questions are pretty quick as well. But, I'd recommend the website first- I was able to learn a LOT on the website. =)
What are the driver's license requirements. Motorcycle?
So... No elios for Canada? :(
At what speed is the highest miles per gallon and what is the number of miles per gallon at that speed?
So I have been wondering how resistant they are to damage from potholes, In nova scotia about where I live 8" deep holes in the middle of the road are pretty common in areas with speed limits up to 90km/hr The kind of holes my 2010 cobalt hits hard enough to give you a good jar. My father wrecked a tire on the roads near I live going 60km/hr in an 70km/hr zone putting enough force to slightly bend the rim (but it's still useable) on his 2006 optra with low profile tires. Also does the elio come stock with a low profile style tires or more traditional ones. And is there any options when it comes to wheel and tire types?
is this thing ever gonna hit the market?
is a death box or a casket with wheels
Does this car have run flat tires?
can I buy stocks in this?
Will the car have an automatic transmission?
Since so many people have made a deposit without a test drive, if and when the vehicle is finally delivered, I predict we will see several of these for sale as used vehicles because the buyer was dissapointed with something about it. I for one would love to have one and plan to wait for one to show up used and buy it if I like the test drive. :-)
I can't wait to get mine, though it will be a different paint job, but this one looks great. #1056
Still waiting? It's now 2018.
Stephen White how do you like yours?
早く日本で売ってください🇯🇵
Why do I feel I’d love to own one of these.
We need this thing reviewed by saabkyle and scotty kilmer asap. People need to see this rolling as a proof of concept!
+usmcportes Saabkyle already did a interview that showed the vehicle.
+bjf2448 the interview that Saabkyle did was for the p4, not the p5.
pchamberlain Same car different front end, and engine....
Please I want pictures and video of it. Also!! That new trim work for the muffler, I will be ok with it...IF!!! you make a matching piece for the other side that has a split for the door.
FINALLY- 2016 RELEASE and the engine in the CAR!
5 or 6 speed manual?
Since it is classed as a motorcycle, does this mean helmets will be required in some states, along with a special motorcycle license? Has there been discussion on if it can circumvent these issues? That could make the insurance cost of them very prohibitive as well, earl silly for younger drivers, and needlessly given the roll cage and air bags.
I think it is that in 45 states you don't need a helmet, and it is a regular drivers license.
I want one!
I saw them there!!
Does anyone know if the headroom in this vehicle will accommodate a helmet, since it is classified as a motorcycle.
Only in a few states. In most of the country however you can drive it with just a license
Can't wait till they start production in Shreveport.
I love new technology and I would like to have one in my garage. Under 9000! Wow!
Maybe they could and a trailer type trunk!
so where are they?it's 2017 and have not seen one in the streets I've seen tesla cars in my town and where are yours
2018 and counting.
This has been a good idea. I'm hoping to see good success with this new line of cars.
I'm all in... that's is great to see american innovation at work. couldn't have been a better time. I really hope all the funding goes as planned...
Pep boys doing the maintenance for Warranty? If that is true, is that good or bad?
Paul PLEASE get rid of the Tonka Toy gauges in the final product. I love the car and honestly plan on eventually getting one but those gauges are almost a deal killer for me. Please keep driving forward, you and your team are really doing an amazing thing.
I love this thing!
i want one !
I live in Eastern Arkansas can I trade in a 2006 Yamaha 1100 star?
Ok, as a _huge_ Aptera fan I was a bit skeptical, but after watching the review done by 'ChrisFix' in June I've got to say that this little thing would make a *great* third car for us.
Not sure that delivery will happen in 2016 and the $6800 price tag seems low, even for such a basic car, but for Elio to get this far, most impressive.
Have you heard of what Aptera is up to now? Aptera is going Solar EV.
How about one that only gets 75 mpg but looks a hell of a lot better?
OMG Is it road legal in California? I am drooling.
America needs something like this. everywhere else in the world is fuel efficient because motorcycles are alot more common and with theese as competition and a similar price point I can see them doing well with the people that fear motorcycles in America. solid concept. I'd put a sunroof option and the standard transmition.
Spartin11794 this is still way behind motorcycles, we can park wherever, filter throw traffic, lightweight, Maintaince is cheap or can be done by yourself, you can get one for half the price of that, with the speed of a porche. this is still as bulky as a car. Even if they claim that it gives 84mpg you have to ask "under what circumstances".
remember when someone sells something they do the best they can to get good numbers. and let's say it can do 8mpg, the 2nd question is, well how many gallons can it hold per tank.
RancherUSAFLA how do you know your reserve #?
Has NHA certified this car star safety rateing?
Have they delivered any cars to consumers yet?
No, and they never will.