I am all about high end sports cars, and big trucks and blahblahblah, but if I had the money, I would for sure buy one, like without any questions. It's such a practical little car for a daily driver. It's about the same cost as a motorcycle, and is infinitely more safe, as well as being able to be driven year round in comfort. I really hope these things take off.
+MrMatte0000 A motorcycle is not "Safe" or Dangerous". The Engineering Explained comment was wrong, also. Lacking protection is NOT dangerous. Would you describe your grandmother crossing a busy street as dangerous? No, lacking protection, certainly.
+Delta Douglas I think what he meant was that people with the required amount of wherewithal to not wreck a motorcycle are far fewer in amount than those with enough to not wreck a car.
+MrMatte0000 i could not be more enhusiastic about driving mine, they have had my deposite for two years now. i do drive a motorcycle and this is in no way a motorcycle to my thinking. that said i am more than sure this will be a daily driver. it is no more or less safe than any other car on the road from my perspective. its just like having two driver sides...... so whats the diff? weight means gas so light is a good thing. incidentaly i sat in one and met paul elio in the NYC autoshow back in april. i think it was, and it has more room then my 2011 toyota Venza. they are saying last quarter of the year i can expect delivery but i cant find anything on where i would be picking it up from as of yet. my resevation is in the low 9k. so i will be in the 1st 25% of owners for the first year release. super excited.
+MrMatte0000 If you're considering this over a motorcycle, then you don't *really* want a motorcycle. I really love cars and I really love bikes. The beauty of riding a motorcycle is being absolutely attached to the machine and feeling very involved. It's about being in the open environment. It's almost freeing in a way. Another beauty of motorcycles is how small they are. You can go pretty much anywhere on one, because it's about as wide as your shoulders. This thing lacks all of those things, which are all big reasons to love riding. Not only that, but the feeling of railing a turn on a bike leaned over 45+ degrees is one of the most thrilling things one can do for so cheap.
+Anthony Antoine I really don't want a motorcycle, but I'd buy this. I've had motorcycles in the past and I've seen lots of friends killed or maimed in my lifetime too, but to have something that gets that good of gas mileage that I could run errands in would be awesome. Not like it;s a choice between it or my truck. I'd keep my truck for big jobs and have this thing just for little things and the fun of just cruising the backroads. Besides, people buy 4 wheelers and those things that look like miniature plastic pickup trucks, so why not?
Lachlan Kelly Elio doesn't pay for reviews, especially if it's a prototype. The only real marketing they have is going to car shows with the P3 and P4, and their facebook page. Reason it's become popular on review channels is because of it's body style, planned price point, and planned MPG
I think it is advisable to put marker lights on both front fenders. Pedestrians and other vehicles will mistakenly assume the safe distance is measured by the body of the vehicle and not the fenders.
The front fenders move, so it would be like mounting lights almost on your wheels. That would make the light rarely point where you want it and small zig zagging would become disorienting. If you meant above, or in front, like with arms bolted securely to the body, just to move it farther out, then yeah, that would probably be way better. I can totally see someone get to close and get there legs clipped (probably doing an impressive flip), and getting badly injured from not expecting the wheels.
ImpenetrableBread That's a good idea. I'm not sure about regulations though. It seems that if its a good safe idea, it gets banned for no apparent reason. I do know we use yellow side reflectors on our smaller trucks (in addition to the normal side lights). The alternative is to install some aftermarket lighting (like wheel accent lighting, or some other way to give the profile a glow without distracting or blinding drivers). Reflectors are a great idea, it would cost almost nothing, nothing to really break down, no lights going out, etc.
Lrohrbach79 They have been pushing back and pushing back and pushing back their final production date for years now. I had high hopes for this vehicle but, it’s not going to happen.
Trevor Pearce In this video I heard 3 cylinder but I thought the Elios were supposed to have a 4 cylinder GM Ecotec engine. Maybe it's changed from one to the other since, I don't know. Doesn't look like much space but I'm sure a creative tuner could fit something interesting. It would be cool to see one converted to rear drive and put like an inline 6 where the rear passenger is supposed to be or something like that.
This is great for someone working part time that makes $10k to $20k a year. Maintenance, insurance & gas would be insanely cheap as well. I know form owning a motorcycle which is what this thing would be registered as.
+Tiny Turbo booom you said it!! would love to swap a Busa into this! 6speed sequential and mechanical reverse, like the Tanom Invader, and then make the body a lil more appealing and you'd be still way cheaper then a trex or invader.. great idea..
8meals I would leave the outside stock and go full sleeper mode. The cops wouldn't believe where the sound is coming from so less tickets. Then you could roll up next to sports cars and blow them off the road. Talk about hurt some feelings. You're right a sequential would be beast in this thing!
Tiny Turbo Nobody's feeling will be hurt because at the end of that day you would be driving an Elio and they're driving a nice sports car even if your modded Elio would be faster...it doesn't matter anyways this thing will never come out lol
I think people need to seriously start driving these, like you said they are purely more logical for most people. I ride a motorcycle and the fuel mileage, maintenance and performance package is un matched. If you want groceries just get a pair of saddle bags and back pack. Instead of going once, go twice 2 trips from work. The money you save on gas is completely worth it, and the fun you get makes it worth it too. I would totally own one of these for rainy days if i lived down south.
Absolutely. This is like the efficiency of a motorcycle (OK, not quite, but close), but with the all weather comfort of a car. Given how many people drive with 1-2 people in the car at most the vast majority of the time, this is the perfect practical vehicle. It's not as exciting as a motorbike, it's not as flexible as a full sized car, but it meets the primary, most common needs of the majority of people in a much more efficient manner.
+Robert Barbour Agreed. I can't understand tolerating the tiny size of the Smart FourTwo in return for mileage only slightly better than a modern small traditional hatchback, and only 10-20% cheaper. If the Elio lives up to its own hype, the low price and high mileage would earn it a place as a commuter car.
+James Walt I think it will have major safety problems but we all know the future of auto mobiles are either gonna be these fuckers, electric prissy pedals, or bad ass hydrogen powered cars
65 years in the making for North America for these things....bring them on. Just something cheap to travel 15 miles to work in and buy some groceries. No one should have to get debt just for that
+Zoch Buppet Agreed. Think of the younger crowd, imagine getting one of these for graduation. All the kids on the college campus driving these things around. Parents are happy and the kids are happy to have a new car.
+Zoch Buppet ... no one has to get into debt; you make a decision and get into debt. Save your money, drive a nice used car. Then when you have the wampum, buy it...
I Think you might be right, but stranger thinks have happened , look who' s in the white house , We ain't dead yet . Pray that it happens , it will be fun . Hang in there .
Thanks for making what may be the best review I've seen of the Elio. I am pretty interested in it. We'll see how they do. With a 100 mile round trip daily commute I could see buying one.
7 years ago I put my name on the list to get one and gave a deposit like many other people I have not heard from them since and the price keeps going up!! I'll be lucky if I see one in my lifetime: (
power windows in the base model? Honestly, with all windows within easy reach of the driver, I don't see much point in that. Drop costs, minimize repairs, keep it simple. Just make it an option.
Sadpants McGee Plenty of elbow room, the interior is actually spacious, they've added 2" in each direction over what standard cars have as a safety bubble, but this results in a more space for the driver as well.
Engineering Explained Awesome, thanks! I'm looking forward to seeing them on the road and possibly owning one. I'd imagine rental companies would start stocking up on these, as most business rentals are for one person anyway.
Andrew King Jr. I sat in this orange one way back in 2014! Elio is sunk. I ended up buying a Ford Fiesta in 2015 with the 1.0 3-cylinder engine. Makes 135hp and gets up to 50MPG.
thank you for doing a review on this car I have been following it for quite some time I actually think I will be purchasing it when it comes out later on in this year
Seems like a very practical and environmentally friendly car :) I wish more universally known companies would adopt concepts like these. I bet if they did, they'd be able to develop sporty, practical, great looking AND sustainable cars.
Dylan Tucker Probably not. The Elio engine is like 150cc bigger with 1 (2?) more cylinder(s). I ride a '94 Vulcan with a 750cc V-Twin that only has 60hp when it was made. No idea what it is now.
+Aspie Sean due to compression loss and other parasitic loss, about 45-50bhp if in pristine condition. but the vulcan engine would fit and sound much better along with having the same power, it would increase the power to weight ratio making it faster in turn. i used to have an 03. great bikes.
+Paul Russell The Elio will have better Power to weight than my old Mazda b2000 and my old Nissan Hardbody. And as you know with bikes, it's one thing to be able to make speed, another to be able to do something with it. Yeah, I pedal drag alot some days with my Vulcan. So used to the maneuverability of cars.
that is true. but the b2000 and hardbodies were both either steel or aluminum. also carrying that trans and everything else. it is one thing to make speed in a straight line, keeping speed in curves is something of an art form. if you put an engine producing the same bhp in the elio it would have a better power to wieght ratio because it would be lighter. so keeping speed and maneuverability wouldnt be much of an issue since the vulcan 750 engines weigh a fraction of the weight of the elio engine but produce the same 55-60bhp.
Michael Huston: I owned four motorcycles in my lifetime. 1) Honda 50 Supersport; 2) Honda 305 Superhawk; 3) '77 Honda Goldwing; 4) '88 Harley-Davidson FLHTC. And, guess which one of the last three got the best MPG? It was the Harley, which always got between 45 to 50+ mpg city/highway combined. So, when and IF the Elio ever gets into production, it will beat the pants off of the Harley, as far as gas mileage goes!
My 90 Geo Metro consistently got 45 MPG not trying. If I drove on the freeway at 55 mph it would get 55MPG. Many motorcycles cant do that, Gold wings and HD have bigger motors. @@RonN448
This is a car I really hope works out and goes into production. I see it as an all weather motorcycle. That being the case, I think it could use a limited slip differential and a deer bumper, because deer and snow are the #1 driving hazards in my area.
This will make for a great commuter car because I see huge trucks, SUV's, mini vans, cars and even smaller cars with one person in them driving to work. This is what most people need for getting to work or running errands.
I love it and have loved it from the first time I laid eyes on it. I will own one for sure. I mean I ride a Harley and I know the Elio has got to be safer.
A great concept. Safer and more comfortable than a motorcycle . . . a personal vehicle with 'benefits,' those being convenience, one passenger, and pretty good trunk space considering the fold down rear seat. I think this is a winner.
john d That is exactly what it is. The production model will have its own engine that is in final design at this time. There is a good video on it here.
+Archi Roof racks here in the U. S. are my one concession to entertaining a "conspiracy theory". The auto manufacturers tout the Cd for any car meant to sell for its fuel economy, based on the car without the rack. Then they add the rack as a selling point, destroying that Cd big time. My conspiracy theory is that they do this to assuage their partners in crime, the oil companies. This Elio is one of the last newly minted gas cars I suspect will ever be mass marketed here, assuming they can find willing buyers such as our host. Built to obtain an MPG figure all but impossible to gain with a family sedan of equal Cd using just a standard IC engine and having decent performance. As a recumbent bicyclist, I use the formula CdA which incorporates the amount of frontal area. This car has the Cd of my Prius, but the prius is at least twice the frontal area. If I had the Yaris instead which uses the same Toyota engine without hybrid technology, my Mpg would be half of what the Elio is, but carries twice the passenger load. As it is my Prius will outperform the Elio in any LA traffic jam and its engine will last longer doing it because it will be off for more than half the time I spend on the road.
iMiguelAOG it's a motorcycle guys. none of what you mentioned are required. elio is trying to offer them because they want it to be perceived as a car.
I see one bi big problem with this car a matter of fact a dangerous problem . The A and B pillars taking up a bit over 20% of the frontal view . That in its self vary dangerous blind spot on both sides . These pillars need to be are thin. as possible There should not be no more than 5% of total frontal blind spot . I would be prized that the DOT have not for seen this . I would buy one of these in a heart beat but before I go and do that . These post needs to be fixed .
I totally agree that this frontal view is way less safe than having a crack in your windshield (which wouldn't even pass inspection). That being said, have you ever sat in a new Challenger? You can't see a damn thing, and you're sitting on 600 HP. Roll cages are apparently impossible to get right.
Sadly due to safety regulations we're going to be stuck with these massive a-pillars forever, and they're just going to get bigger and bigger. I miss the days of the panoramic windshields and tiny or non-existent pillars.
I usually drive about 62 miles a day (going from a rural area into the city) and try to use b roads as much as possible. The Elio checks off most boxes of what I need in a daily driver and I am stoked for the release.
It'd be interesting to see how it performs in winter conditions. Looks like the tire sections are pretty narrow so that can help offer better grip with a good set of winter tires. Also with adequate clearance and w/FWD would help cut into snow should make it very usable year round, adding to the ultimate practicality.
I was thinking the same thing, and with the cabin being so small in tandem with its above average aerodynamics it wouldn't take much time to heat and would stay warm
Steering wheel out of a Camaro, engine out of a Geo Metro, dashboard out of a Fiesta, seats out of a Mustang, pillar covers out of a Versa and transmission out of a Daewoo/Aveo. Reminds me of an AMC Gremlin.
I have 3 motorcycles and ride 7 days a week. this is perfect for a person like me who can't justify a single passenger driving a 2 ton suv with 3 rows of seats to work. we live in America where we have to have bigger and bigger things. my elio is already on order
*ALL I can say is this: They announced the release in 2012 of a simple design of a car that has still not even hit production yet.... By the end of 2017, Elio had only $7,155 in the bank, and deficits of $49,674,327. They publicly announced that an investment of $376.6Mil plus an additional $110.5Mil in reservation deposits would be necessary in order to even GO INTO production... and is something they are NOT going to get for the manufacturing of a single type of car that is ALREADY outdated.... you can buy a used car, a prius that is more eco-friendly, can comfortably sit 4 n if something goes wrong... you won't have to search for a mechanic to even know what the car is that you're driving!!!! I'm sorry but they lied to you from the beginning...*
I agree that this is the best review I have seen to date: very nicely done. I like how the presenter went through the logic of using a 1/2 car for when you are only transporting one person.
So far I'm driving alone or with one other person at most 99% of the time. a lightweight twoseater like this makes total sense to me. really sympathetic in concept and execution and definitely would be enough to drive around in. :)
Jason, you provided both a fair and balanced review on the Elio. I just hope it will go into production; but, I've read several accounts that Elio Motors is very deeply in debt--and, perhaps, too deeply already.
Good video, I think you're the first I've seen that mentioned what the iPad was for. I do not believe that I could see myself owning one, but I am enthralled with them for some reason lol.
4K resolution?! I bet this took a while to upload haha. Great video. This car looks very interesting. I saw it on ChrisFix's channel and he liked it too.
I was going to do the pre purchase plan for this car but did not. That was years ago. I am still waiting for this to go into production. I will buy one if it ever gets made.
I think this is a fantastic idea. I have an R/T Charger that'll be paid off soon. I want to put some work into it, but not have to drive it in the winter often or put a whole bunch of miles on. At $7k this is a no brainer.
This has been on going for so many years now since 2012... as much as I really want it to be true, it still seems like a pipe dream. First the price was like $6800 now its at $7450, what next $8500? Every year I read "it'll be out next year hopefully" that year goes by and the same new again, "next year". I don't blame Paul Elio, I'm sure there's too many factors at play but it just sucks to never see this come true.
You too EE... Do you guys really like it?? That's what I wrote on Scotty's channel: "It seems a waste of space for the width of it. 12:1 isn't that rare. 84 MPG [with a reduced payload] at what speeds? Can this drift? [half serious] How do you get it on a ramp to check the underside? It's visually not very appealing." Really like your videos!
Two question and an observation 1) Have you ever heard of an implied stop? 2) Have you ever been to a gym? Also, crash ratings are only valid for the class car they are given in. Therefore a sub-compact 5 star is not equal to a Large Truck 5 star.
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Can't wait for someone to swap a turbo hayabusa engine into one.
JMM But it's FWD, it's going to suck.
sliwka621 "Hurr durrr FWD always sucks"
Eric D Hey. It has 67% of it's wheels with power. So few can say that. lol
Or a h2r engine
Matt. d. motorbike.
Hmmm, I don't know anything about that.
I am all about high end sports cars, and big trucks and blahblahblah, but if I had the money, I would for sure buy one, like without any questions. It's such a practical little car for a daily driver. It's about the same cost as a motorcycle, and is infinitely more safe, as well as being able to be driven year round in comfort. I really hope these things take off.
+MrMatte0000 A motorcycle is not "Safe" or Dangerous". The Engineering Explained comment was wrong, also. Lacking protection is NOT dangerous.
Would you describe your grandmother crossing a busy street as dangerous? No, lacking protection, certainly.
+Delta Douglas I think what he meant was that people with the required amount of wherewithal to not wreck a motorcycle are far fewer in amount than those with enough to not wreck a car.
+MrMatte0000 i could not be more enhusiastic about driving mine, they have had my deposite for two years now. i do drive a motorcycle and this is in no way a motorcycle to my thinking. that said i am more than sure this will be a daily driver. it is no more or less safe than any other car on the road from my perspective. its just like having two driver sides...... so whats the diff? weight means gas so light is a good thing. incidentaly i sat in one and met paul elio in the NYC autoshow back in april. i think it was, and it has more room then my 2011 toyota Venza. they are saying last quarter of the year i can expect delivery but i cant find anything on where i would be picking it up from as of yet. my resevation is in the low 9k. so i will be in the 1st 25% of owners for the first year release. super excited.
+MrMatte0000 If you're considering this over a motorcycle, then you don't *really* want a motorcycle. I really love cars and I really love bikes. The beauty of riding a motorcycle is being absolutely attached to the machine and feeling very involved. It's about being in the open environment. It's almost freeing in a way. Another beauty of motorcycles is how small they are. You can go pretty much anywhere on one, because it's about as wide as your shoulders. This thing lacks all of those things, which are all big reasons to love riding. Not only that, but the feeling of railing a turn on a bike leaned over 45+ degrees is one of the most thrilling things one can do for so cheap.
+Anthony Antoine I really don't want a motorcycle, but I'd buy this. I've had motorcycles in the past and I've seen lots of friends killed or maimed in my lifetime too, but to have something that gets that good of gas mileage that I could run errands in would be awesome. Not like it;s a choice between it or my truck. I'd keep my truck for big jobs and have this thing just for little things and the fun of just cruising the backroads. Besides, people buy 4 wheelers and those things that look like miniature plastic pickup trucks, so why not?
Whoever's in charge of marketing at this company is very good! I've seen this vehicle pop up on almost every single car review channel on UA-cam.
Lachlan Kelly Elio doesn't pay for reviews, especially if it's a prototype. The only real marketing they have is going to car shows with the P3 and P4, and their facebook page.
Reason it's become popular on review channels is because of it's body style, planned price point, and planned MPG
I think it is advisable to put marker lights on both front fenders. Pedestrians and other vehicles will mistakenly assume the safe distance is measured by the body of the vehicle and not the fenders.
The front fenders move, so it would be like mounting lights almost on your wheels. That would make the light rarely point where you want it and small zig zagging would become disorienting.
If you meant above, or in front, like with arms bolted securely to the body, just to move it farther out, then yeah, that would probably be way better. I can totally see someone get to close and get there legs clipped (probably doing an impressive flip), and getting badly injured from not expecting the wheels.
Lights, or reflectors at least! That way it might not be as disorienting as having actually lights on the fenders
ImpenetrableBread That's a good idea. I'm not sure about regulations though. It seems that if its a good safe idea, it gets banned for no apparent reason. I do know we use yellow side reflectors on our smaller trucks (in addition to the normal side lights).
The alternative is to install some aftermarket lighting (like wheel accent lighting, or some other way to give the profile a glow without distracting or blinding drivers).
Reflectors are a great idea, it would cost almost nothing, nothing to really break down, no lights going out, etc.
I think it's advisable to produce it
@@jakegarrett8109 Just have the position lights be there, aside the reflectors, and be on all the time the engine is on, just to be safe.
I dont think this car will ever come out.
projected production around q4 2018 or delayed upto q3 2019.
It will come out in late 2019, it just takes time. I just read the statement from Elio
Lrohrbach79 They have been pushing back and pushing back and pushing back their final production date for years now. I had high hopes for this vehicle but, it’s not going to happen.
Sbstech5 Excuse me but I am not
EP1CNELSON If y’all want proof to what I’m saying GO TO ELIOS WEBSITE!!!!!!!! You’ll see im right
I can't be the only one who thinks Spec Elio races would be cool.
Haha, indeed would be awesome!
OneTallOrder im curious as to what you could fit in there
Trevor Pearce In this video I heard 3 cylinder but I thought the Elios were supposed to have a 4 cylinder GM Ecotec engine. Maybe it's changed from one to the other since, I don't know. Doesn't look like much space but I'm sure a creative tuner could fit something interesting. It would be cool to see one converted to rear drive and put like an inline 6 where the rear passenger is supposed to be or something like that.
this prototype has the 3 cylinder out of the old geo metro, but I believe the production version will have the 2.4 ecotec
either way im def getting one of these lol
This is great for someone working part time that makes $10k to $20k a year. Maintenance, insurance & gas would be insanely cheap as well. I know form owning a motorcycle which is what this thing would be registered as.
A delivery driver's CHARIOT
@@moonchild9162 no room to deliver anything
@@salemsaberhagen8390 it could be used for fast food delivery. It has great mpg which is important for business owners.
I can see it now. ElioBusa swap.
Lol
+Tiny Turbo I was thinking Cadillac North Star engine with monster front tires! :-D
+Tiny Turbo booom you said it!! would love to swap a Busa into this! 6speed sequential and mechanical reverse, like the Tanom Invader, and then make the body a lil more appealing and you'd be still way cheaper then a trex or invader.. great idea..
8meals I would leave the outside stock and go full sleeper mode. The cops wouldn't believe where the sound is coming from so less tickets. Then you could roll up next to sports cars and blow them off the road. Talk about hurt some feelings. You're right a sequential would be beast in this thing!
Tiny Turbo Nobody's feeling will be hurt because at the end of that day you would be driving an Elio and they're driving a nice sports car even if your modded Elio would be faster...it doesn't matter anyways this thing will never come out lol
I think people need to seriously start driving these, like you said they are purely more logical for most people. I ride a motorcycle and the fuel mileage, maintenance and performance package is un matched. If you want groceries just get a pair of saddle bags and back pack. Instead of going once, go twice 2 trips from work. The money you save on gas is completely worth it, and the fun you get makes it worth it too. I would totally own one of these for rainy days if i lived down south.
Joshua Hults I totally agree. My car averages 1500 miles a year. I get bummed when I have to drive my car.
+Joshua Hults
If they make a "family car" version it would be good for everyone to have one.
Joshua Hults a family car version.... Would be a regular car that's already in production
Absolutely. This is like the efficiency of a motorcycle (OK, not quite, but close), but with the all weather comfort of a car.
Given how many people drive with 1-2 people in the car at most the vast majority of the time, this is the perfect practical vehicle.
It's not as exciting as a motorbike, it's not as flexible as a full sized car, but it meets the primary, most common needs of the majority of people in a much more efficient manner.
This vehicle makes much more sense than something like a Smart FourTwo, especially when considering the cost.
+Robert Barbour Agreed. I can't understand tolerating the tiny size of the Smart FourTwo in return for mileage only slightly better than a modern small traditional hatchback, and only 10-20% cheaper.
If the Elio lives up to its own hype, the low price and high mileage would earn it a place as a commuter car.
+James Walt I think it will have major safety problems but we all know the future of auto mobiles are either gonna be these fuckers, electric prissy pedals, or bad ass hydrogen powered cars
+Swag Police The video, near the end, already addresses your point about "major safety problems". You should watch that before commenting.
the elio is just the car/motorcycle i've been searching for. its practical and the 84 mpg is just what i need for my 90 miles a day commute to work.
How's that working out?
0:00 YEAH PARKING IN A BUS ONLY ZONE we have a rebel right here
ahmed shamsi He doesnt play by anyones rules.... not even his own.
Underpantsniper Some say his educational background is a farce, and that he outsources scripts to the lowest bidding country.
Engineering Explained Nah they'd do a much better job.
I hope this car gets made so that someone can do an LS swap.
won't fit
it could handle a boosted 2.4L at the most after completely beefing up the control arms and adding frame ties.
Nah, just do a Hayabusa or other motorcycle engine like they've done in Smart cars.
no. put a wankel, or motorcycle engine in it.
why would you want to downgrade?
65 years in the making for North America for these things....bring them on. Just something cheap to travel 15 miles to work in and buy some groceries. No one should have to get debt just for that
+Zoch Buppet Agreed. Think of the younger crowd, imagine getting one of these for graduation. All the kids on the college campus driving these things around. Parents are happy and the kids are happy to have a new car.
+NOSfusion idk what you mean by younger crowd most young people like something fast
+Zoch Buppet ... no one has to get into debt; you make a decision and get into debt. Save your money, drive a nice used car. Then when you have the wampum, buy it...
1XXdragon "Like something fast" isn't the same as getting a free car... Beggars cannot be choosers
NOSfusion well if the parents are paying it then yeah i guess your right
It's 2019 and I STILL want one. I know it'll probably never come but it's the coolest little car and I think it deserves its' day in the sun.
I Think you might be right, but stranger thinks have happened , look who' s in the white house , We ain't dead yet . Pray that it happens , it will be fun . Hang in there .
While other automobile manufacturers are working on a driverless car, Elio has perfected the carless driver.
Thanks for making what may be the best review I've seen of the Elio. I am pretty interested in it. We'll see how they do. With a 100 mile round trip daily commute I could see buying one.
7 years ago I put my name on the list to get one and gave a deposit like many other people I have not heard from them since and the price keeps going up!! I'll be lucky if I see one in my lifetime: (
@@sandraherringakamynameis_a7955 Yeah it sucks, I think they had a pretty great idea.
can't wait...first exciting thing in transportation in decades...Observer Jules
power windows in the base model? Honestly, with all windows within easy reach of the driver, I don't see much point in that. Drop costs, minimize repairs, keep it simple. Just make it an option.
Sadpants McGee Just noticed the elbow room (or lack therof). I guess that would make it difficult to turn a crank. Damn.
Sadpants McGee They found it cheaper overall to offer only automatic windows, which is why they use them.
Sadpants McGee Plenty of elbow room, the interior is actually spacious, they've added 2" in each direction over what standard cars have as a safety bubble, but this results in a more space for the driver as well.
Engineering Explained Awesome, thanks! I'm looking forward to seeing them on the road and possibly owning one. I'd imagine rental companies would start stocking up on these, as most business rentals are for one person anyway.
Sadpants McGee I've heard the mechanism for power windows overall weighs less than non-powered windows.
$7,000?? Is it coming to EU? I also think it looks pretty cool and not having much space around you gives this "cosy" feeling. I like it.
***** Hey, nice bike man! :)
***** for the usa they should be focusing on fat people scooters
Dorifto Kingu! But all the R&D costs going into making it RHD... oh wait... :D
A Swedish company has a road going car similar to this.
Richard Hossen How it's called?
okay, so what's really going on with Elio? I first heard about this car 5 years ago, and still nothing!!!
Andrew King Jr. I sat in this orange one way back in 2014! Elio is sunk. I ended up buying a Ford Fiesta in 2015 with the 1.0 3-cylinder engine. Makes 135hp and gets up to 50MPG.
This was a fake company nothing but a vaporware investment scheme
Peel P45 was better
keithwenttothemoon the peel cames from the future
keithwenttothemoon Clarkson approves .
The Reliant Robin was even better
Bryan Doherty also very safe
Dumy Jobby 5 stars in the roll over crash test
thank you for doing a review on this car I have been following it for quite some time I actually think I will be purchasing it when it comes out later on in this year
Seems like a very practical and environmentally friendly car :) I wish more universally known companies would adopt concepts like these. I bet if they did, they'd be able to develop sporty, practical, great looking AND sustainable cars.
How's your elio drive and handle?
I ride a Vulcan and you know what? I'd totally take an Elio over my bike though my bike is fast because snow, cold, and rain are a thing.
+Aspie Sean Put your Vulcan engine in it xD Would probably still be fast as hell
Dylan Tucker Probably not. The Elio engine is like 150cc bigger with 1 (2?) more cylinder(s). I ride a '94 Vulcan with a 750cc V-Twin that only has 60hp when it was made. No idea what it is now.
+Aspie Sean due to compression loss and other parasitic loss, about 45-50bhp if in pristine condition. but the vulcan engine would fit and sound much better along with having the same power, it would increase the power to weight ratio making it faster in turn. i used to have an 03. great bikes.
+Paul Russell The Elio will have better Power to weight than my old Mazda b2000 and my old Nissan Hardbody. And as you know with bikes, it's one thing to be able to make speed, another to be able to do something with it.
Yeah, I pedal drag alot some days with my Vulcan. So used to the maneuverability of cars.
that is true. but the b2000 and hardbodies were both either steel or aluminum. also carrying that trans and everything else. it is one thing to make speed in a straight line, keeping speed in curves is something of an art form. if you put an engine producing the same bhp in the elio it would have a better power to wieght ratio because it would be lighter. so keeping speed and maneuverability wouldnt be much of an issue since the vulcan 750 engines weigh a fraction of the weight of the elio engine but produce the same 55-60bhp.
I want a commuter car that gets the same mileage as a motorcycle.
Michael Huston: I owned four motorcycles in my lifetime. 1) Honda 50 Supersport; 2) Honda 305 Superhawk; 3) '77 Honda Goldwing; 4) '88 Harley-Davidson FLHTC. And, guess which one of the last three got the best MPG? It was the Harley, which always got between 45 to 50+ mpg city/highway combined. So, when and IF the Elio ever gets into production, it will beat the pants off of the Harley, as far as gas mileage goes!
My 90 Geo Metro consistently got 45 MPG not trying. If I drove on the freeway at 55 mph it would get 55MPG.
Many motorcycles cant do that, Gold wings and HD have bigger motors. @@RonN448
It's really nice to see all the positive feedback on this
It's October 2018 and now Elio says production will start 2019!! If I had a camper, this would be the car you would want to lug around!
A safety cage option would be nice.
I wish the Elio wasn't a scam. It was a good idea, but poorly POORLY executed.
This is a car I really hope works out and goes into production. I see it as an all weather motorcycle. That being the case, I think it could use a limited slip differential and a deer bumper, because deer and snow are the #1 driving hazards in my area.
It's like the Model T reborn. Inexpensive, economical, basic, yet surprisingly refined features.
Jeremy Clarkson should test it :)
not sure if he'd be comfortable.
He had smaller cars xD
how much did elio pay you?
Calvin Jeremiah None of my car reviews are paid, not that I would speak any differently about it...
This will make for a great commuter car because I see huge trucks, SUV's, mini vans, cars and even smaller cars with one person in them driving to work. This is what most people need for getting to work or running errands.
I really like this car and really hope the numbers hold up by the time it is released. I would be completely content driving this to work everyday.
Wow, you are a one man reviewing machine brother! Great overview!
Shredder Steve Thanks! :)
i want something shaped like this, but electric and 2 wheels in the back.
horizon Delta trikes tend to flip
Do you like the reliant robin?
@@isaackarjala7916 Only if you've got one wheel in the front, or you're trying to quickly steer at high speeds in reverse.
@@xthomasbhx It has one wheel in the front, so unless you're trying to quickly steer at high speeds in reverse, you won't have that problem.
@@SapioiT if it has one wheel in the rear and two in front it isn't a delta trike
I can see someone in the aftermarket dropping a "liter bike" engine in this thing. #Epic sleeper.
Probably the best review I have seen about this car
Too bad it was all fake
I'd order one and put a subwoofer in the trunk. Drive around all day
I love it and have loved it from the first time I laid eyes on it. I will own one for sure. I mean I ride a Harley and I know the Elio has got to be safer.
It is a motorcycle. Car safety laws don't apply!
Safety laws don't apply to investment frauds either... they just make false promises and steal your money
I'm SO getting of these when they come out!! 84 mpg? What?!?!? Hell yea!!
Elio should sell these on Amazon! And make them simple to service by any mechanic, and reliable. I'll take one!
I Am Buying One,,,,,
Still don’t have it 2 years later
No, I don't think you are :-/
No you're not!
I like dials, digital speedometers/tachometers piss me off.
A great concept. Safer and more comfortable than a motorcycle . . . a personal vehicle with 'benefits,' those being convenience, one passenger, and pretty good trunk space considering the fold down rear seat. I think this is a winner.
Agreed, just as long as it's put in production as planned by spring. I want one.
I love it! It's great and amazing for terrible rainy and snow days.
Has anyone noticed the motor looks like a g10 1.0l 3 cylinder geo metro motor?
john d You didn't hear it from me! ;) Just a prototype powertrain though.
john d That is exactly what it is. The production model will have its own engine that is in final design at this time. There is a good video on it here.
My 1994 Geo Metro had the same engine. 85mpg is a lie, as well as that car ever being made. haha
I'd fit it with roof racks (dead serious).
+Ferguson101 Would be to mount my Giant Propel, already have a saddle bag on that.
+Ferguson101 The Propel is fairly aero w/ deep dish rims, I'm actually extremely lucky & won the top model for free. Can't afford a 'real' car ;)
+Ferguson101 That's true actually, hopefully it comes to my country... then I'll be able to side-mount my steed ;)
+Archi Roof racks here in the U. S. are my one concession to entertaining a "conspiracy theory". The auto manufacturers tout the Cd for any car meant to sell for its fuel economy, based on the car without the rack. Then they add the rack as a selling point, destroying that Cd big time. My conspiracy theory is that they do this to assuage their partners in crime, the oil companies.
This Elio is one of the last newly minted gas cars I suspect will ever be mass marketed here, assuming they can find willing buyers such as our host. Built to obtain an MPG figure all but impossible to gain with a family sedan of equal Cd using just a standard IC engine and having decent performance. As a recumbent bicyclist, I use the formula CdA which incorporates the amount of frontal area. This car has the Cd of my Prius, but the prius is at least twice the frontal area. If I had the Yaris instead which uses the same Toyota engine without hybrid technology, my Mpg would be half of what the Elio is, but carries twice the passenger load. As it is my Prius will outperform the Elio in any LA traffic jam and its engine will last longer doing it because it will be off for more than half the time I spend on the road.
+Paul Gracey The prius is also 4 times more expensive though. You're forgetting this crucial detail when figuring in the practicality of this car
I can't wait.. I'm stoked I will be honored to
Good to hear that new cars still come with manual option
If this is essentially 1200lbs, they could theoretically design a car that's pretty much two of these together that's only 2400lbs
True but the added safety systems that a car needs to have will weigh it down more. Although there has to be a way around that.
kamenwaticlients doesn't this also have added safety features? I mean it supposed to score a 5 star safety rating
It has crash safety but I believe they will have to put airbags and weight sensors in the seats and I think there are a few more added regulations.
iMiguelAOG it's a motorcycle guys. none of what you mentioned are required. elio is trying to offer them because they want it to be perceived as a car.
Casey Rodriguez Yeah so it's classified as a motorcycle but built as a 3 wheel car
if its technically not a car do you need a motorcycle license.
Nope
+Engineering Explained Just a standard driver's license then?
+bman2747 In some states you would. You would also need to wear a helmet depending on state.
in my state if it is over 50cc you have to a motorcycle license, helmet, and motorcycle plates
In New York three wheeled cars need a special license which is basically a motorcycle license but easier to get.
the fit and finish looks excellent for a prototype... i'm impressed. if $6800 price tag is legit i hope they make it.
Very interested love to see more of these in the future tomorrow in the streets
I see one bi big problem with this car a matter of fact a dangerous problem . The A and B pillars taking up a bit over 20% of the frontal view . That in its self vary dangerous blind spot on both sides . These pillars need to be are thin. as possible There should not be no more than 5% of total frontal blind spot . I would be prized that the DOT have not for seen this . I would buy one of these in a heart beat but before I go and do that . These post needs to be fixed .
+Jeff Mullinix I hear you. I have a Scion xb and the pillars block some of the view. Around blind curves, I don't always see car right away.
I totally agree that this frontal view is way less safe than having a crack in your windshield (which wouldn't even pass inspection). That being said, have you ever sat in a new Challenger? You can't see a damn thing, and you're sitting on 600 HP. Roll cages are apparently impossible to get right.
You should design a car and produce it
Sadly due to safety regulations we're going to be stuck with these massive a-pillars forever, and they're just going to get bigger and bigger. I miss the days of the panoramic windshields and tiny or non-existent pillars.
I think I would buy one haha
i commute 200+ miles daily I need this car!!! 84mpg sounds like a dream come true!
Too good to be true...
I usually drive about 62 miles a day (going from a rural area into the city) and try to use b roads as much as possible. The Elio checks off most boxes of what I need in a daily driver and I am stoked for the release.
You've been hit EIGHT times?! How old are you? How often do you drive? Lol.
+Dialectical Monist - All his collisions were at a complete stand-still or parked.
89CrazyAl That doesn't make it any less amazing.
+Dialectical Monist idk its not too uncommon
I think he said he is 40 in another video but he looks much younger.
+Jared Jeanotte 40?! he looks like he's in his late 20's if anything
Geo metro engine.
You are the most knowledgeable and smartest car guy out there. It is a pleasure to listen to you. Do you have an engineering degree?
It'd be interesting to see how it performs in winter conditions. Looks like the tire sections are pretty narrow so that can help offer better grip with a good set of winter tires. Also with adequate clearance and w/FWD would help cut into snow should make it very usable year round, adding to the ultimate practicality.
I was thinking the same thing, and with the cabin being so small in tandem with its above average aerodynamics it wouldn't take much time to heat and would stay warm
But what happens if you hit an SUV?
+J Boss You'll likely need to exchange insurance information with the other driver.
+Engineering Explained Hard to do when you're dead.
+J Boss Easy to do when you're alive.
+J Boss what would happen if you hit a SUV on a Motorcycle ? I for sure can tell you this kiss you ass good by.
*****
I agree with you 100% as the Federal Government classifies the Elio under motorcycle laws.
Steering wheels out of a 2010 Camaro
I was trying to figure where it's from! Well it's a prototype but still...especially the engine before fuel injection looked odd...
Kobbetop the engine is very similar in looks with my Suzuki Swift GL 1.0 . it has some problems, but otherwise, you cant kill it easily
Chase Pollard Yep, and Mustang seats. :)
That's something that I did not notice the seat's
Steering wheel out of a Camaro, engine out of a Geo Metro, dashboard out of a Fiesta, seats out of a Mustang, pillar covers out of a Versa and transmission out of a Daewoo/Aveo. Reminds me of an AMC Gremlin.
I have 3 motorcycles and ride 7 days a week. this is perfect for a person like me who can't justify a single passenger driving a 2 ton suv with 3 rows of seats to work. we live in America where we have to have bigger and bigger things. my elio is already on order
*ALL I can say is this: They announced the release in 2012 of a simple design of a car that has still not even hit production yet.... By the end of 2017, Elio had only $7,155 in the bank, and deficits of $49,674,327. They publicly announced that an investment of $376.6Mil plus an additional $110.5Mil in reservation deposits would be necessary in order to even GO INTO production... and is something they are NOT going to get for the manufacturing of a single type of car that is ALREADY outdated.... you can buy a used car, a prius that is more eco-friendly, can comfortably sit 4 n if something goes wrong... you won't have to search for a mechanic to even know what the car is that you're driving!!!! I'm sorry but they lied to you from the beginning...*
*SCAM!!!!*
CAN YOU AMERICANS LEARN TO SAY A-L-U-M-I-N-I-U-M AND M-I-R-R-O-R-S ? Sorry for the rant
joachim vind Congrats, you're "that guy" in the comment section.
Why do Americans have to be so different to everyone else.
Aluminum we take out the last I and second you spell centre (chen-tray) we spell it center (chen-ter) point made
joachim vind NO WE SPELL IT ALUMINUM NOT ALUMINIUM
joachim vind aluminumium, you happy?
I agree that this is the best review I have seen to date: very nicely done. I like how the presenter went through the logic of using a 1/2 car for when you are only transporting one person.
We had an '88 Chevy Sprint Metro. Awesome little bucket. 50+ mpg, light, simple, fun.
I hope Elio gets launched, I think I'd like it.
I really hope small vehicles like the Elio catch on in crowded urban areas.
Awesome! Thanks for the overview! I've been wondering about this car for a while.
this will be great for 1st time drivers, college students, private security companies that drive around parking lots.
Reminds me of half of a Cloud City Cloud Car. I would always be yelling "Stay on Target" on my way to work. I want.
So far I'm driving alone or with one other person at most 99% of the time. a lightweight twoseater like this makes total sense to me. really sympathetic in concept and execution and definitely would be enough to drive around in. :)
I see soo much racing potential for these cars.
Jason, you provided both a fair and balanced review on the Elio. I just hope it will go into production; but, I've read several accounts that Elio Motors is very deeply in debt--and, perhaps, too deeply already.
You don't always need a larger car, but having the utility is very useful.
It's a shame this car didn't work out, I was looking forward to getting one. Glad I didn't put anything down on it.
I want one. For my next daily, this would be awesome... if it ever comes out.
Good video, I think you're the first I've seen that mentioned what the iPad was for. I do not believe that I could see myself owning one, but I am enthralled with them for some reason lol.
It's no scam. I paid $250 and got a bumper sticker and T-shirt to prove it.
4K resolution?! I bet this took a while to upload haha.
Great video. This car looks very interesting. I saw it on ChrisFix's channel and he liked it too.
My 73 Chevy pickup didn't have power steering (or brakes) but that didn't stop me from driving it.
"Motorcycles meets Smarts! Fuel economy of a smart, thinner than a smart, as safe as a smart, perfect for your daily comute!"
smart has quite shitty fuel economy for what it offers.
I was going to do the pre purchase plan for this car but did not. That was years ago. I am still waiting for this to go into production. I will buy one if it ever gets made.
I think this is a fantastic idea. I have an R/T Charger that'll be paid off soon. I want to put some work into it, but not have to drive it in the winter often or put a whole bunch of miles on. At $7k this is a no brainer.
This has been on going for so many years now since 2012... as much as I really want it to be true, it still seems like a pipe dream. First the price was like $6800 now its at $7450, what next $8500? Every year I read "it'll be out next year hopefully" that year goes by and the same new again, "next year". I don't blame Paul Elio, I'm sure there's too many factors at play but it just sucks to never see this come true.
This is the best video I've seen on the ELIO. 50,000+ have already been pre-ordered. Now that it's in production, it's classified as a car, right? X♡
+Msflamingo2008 Its actually classified as a car, and a motorcycle, its a motorcycle/auto combination. :)
***** Thx for the info! X♡
Msflamingo2008 No problem
it still in production lol
Now I personally don't think I'd ever purchase one of these myself, but this is a very good idea, I hope it makes it into production!
Wow! Cool to see so much of the inside of one.
This is probably slated to be a commuter car for me at some point, haha.
I have been waiting forever for this car.where is my car.
Dude you run a stop sign at 7:27. lol I like all your videos man!
The cockpit looks awesome!
You too EE... Do you guys really like it?? That's what I wrote on Scotty's channel:
"It seems a waste of space for the width of it. 12:1 isn't that rare. 84 MPG [with a reduced payload] at what speeds? Can this drift? [half serious] How do you get it on a ramp to check the underside?
It's visually not very appealing."
Really like your videos!
Two question and an observation
1) Have you ever heard of an implied stop?
2) Have you ever been to a gym?
Also, crash ratings are only valid for the class car they are given in. Therefore a sub-compact 5 star is not equal to a Large Truck 5 star.
Even worse, the Elio is classified as motorcycle, go figure.
I would totally buy one. Oh man, this is sweet. I like the novel, dorky look.
I'm on the waiting list for a $100. Don't know if it will ever be made but they sent me a cool $100 T-shirt at the very least!