His Post on Israel-Hamas Propaganda Went Viral. Here’s What It Really Means | Amanpour and Company
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- About Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and now the war between Israel and Hamas, people across the globe are voicing their opinions on social media. This can end in tribalism, polarization and dehumanizing narratives. Author Ben Sheehan’s viral Instagram post called for greater compassion and nuance in response, and he joins the show to discuss the dangers of propaganda on social media.
Originally aired on October 23, 2023
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The irony is that propaganda has worked on him. He can't say "Palestinians" - he says "Gazans". And the concentration on so called "anti semetism" and not a breath about islamophobia and racism against Palestinians. Slam dunk Ben
“Americans are not well educated…”. You got that right Ben!!
There’s a case to be made, for saying that American education has devolved into what other institutions have historically been: a method of reinforcing the ideas and values of the ruling class and their political projects, in other words a way of spreading their propaganda. This is the reason why the right wing want vouchers and private and charter schools everywhere, and why we fund schools with property tax money. There’s a reason why schools were never “equal but separate” in the south. There’s a reason why kids can get gunned down by n schools and we do nothing.
Not only Americans...
As an observer, I have the impression that the USA being the no. one country in the world, many citizens assume they know better than most about the world. It shows how just being a privileged, free loudmouth can reveal that lazy brains but buck-hungry desires can do a lot of harm. My anxiety about the Israel-Hamas conflict is that in that region overall, conflicts and wars have raged off and on for thousands of years. It seems the generational hurts, pains, and hate just keep piling on. To care deeply so the conflicting parties will heal will need so much work and commitment, and for both to want to heal. To worsen the situation is that Judaic, Christian, and Muslim dogmatism is baked right into the soil and seeps through the nerves. So, Ben Sheehan has a very valid view that we should take it as a challenge to act proactively, intelligently, and compassionately.
@@auroradelima6025 not true, it's not only in that region, the world as we know now thanks to be as it is because of conflicts and war...for thousends of years of history... only the last 100 years, the rest of the world are more for diplomatice solutions..
Americans are not and muslims are even worse. Islamonazis presenting themselves as victims with complete lack of basic history and pure propaganda
The constant bombardment of fear-based information (misinformation) from the media and certain politicians and their followers is changing the soul of this nation. Maybe the world. True humanity must awaken and resist this. I appreciate this inspiring interview.
Maybe those left after WW3
You left out the internet, but I think the internet is doing more to push that phenomena than all of the media and all the politicians combined.
There's 3.03 billion facebook users. That's a number so big the "0.03" is more people than the entire country of Australia, the ".03" is thirty million people.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Great point, and I’m not discounting the Internet. It’s so vast a topic-as your numbers testify-that it is daunting to begin to discuss it as a separate entity. I guess I’m folding it all together in “media”. Not just tv, but social media as well. Thanks.
@@thestraightroad305 I guess I'm just old and so I see it as this separate sort of tentacle monster that ate the old world I grew up in. I see what you were saying now, yeah.
Ben is so logical. It's hard to believe it has taken so long since the war started to hear a good thoughtful humane take on humanity. Propaganda rules but few understand the full truth about anything and it's a continuing learning experience to keep up with news and decipher the most correct outlook and challenge your own views. A mandatory course in logic in schools would be nice. It's not just Americans of course. Pew Polls show most others have many blind spots. The US is just loud and upfront about their ignorance.
How is it that I’ve spent my whole life learning about the Holocaust and the horrors of the Holocaust, but I hadn’t heard the word Nakba until last month?
👏👏👏 great point
Exactly! Why?
Zionists control the media, world governments, world economy etc
Take Afghanistan, the world only hear the NATO and their Afghan puppets version of things, yet the majority of us Afghans support Taliban and our Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan government and security forces now, but our voices,nor the actual truth about our ground reality are never heard because it doesn't fit the narrative which has been pushed to date. The poor countries and ppls voices never get heard.
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We hear you now.
"It's not poetry . . ." It's just common sense. People are dumbing down to a depressing point to where his Tweets are lauded as profound. Common sense is now so rare that upon encountering it we are in awe of its profundity.
Thank you. That's exactly what I thought... if you need a slide to teach you how to be a real human to other humans, you got 99 other problems.
Quite. I completely agree. It's a sad reflection of where America's got to in 2023 that people think this is a new Gandhi or Mandela.
100% (it’s almost like poetry, it cuts). What the hell are you talking about?! Yea feel sympathy for both sets of civilians. That this even needs to be articulated is a sign of how dumb the culture has become.
No. It's so easy to say in retrospect that this that wording or insight was obvious, but beforehand it wasn't, or a thousand others would have said it first. It's not Ocean Vuong,with his startling eloquence, but it needed to be said, and he said it in just the right way to be heard. Each of us can then try to express it in our own way, inspired by that.
@@lopezb the point the above posters were making is that to many of us, it is atrocious that these words (relaying this concept) are even worth attention. because the concept these words are relaying is so obvious and part of our natural mental state. to us it is a bit revolting that a big fuss is being made and "people are finally feeling something" when they should have without the words being said.
the point is - the people who are just now understanding (the beginning) of this concept are scary. wtf is wrong with them to begin with.
i mean people dancing in the streets in gaza and spitting on the dead corpses of israelis is disgusting and inhuman but to see that level of incompassion and inhumanity next door if you live in middle usa or europe or wherever else - should be and absolutely is, a bit revolting....
thats the point.
civilization in this day requires empathy. some places in the world dont have that, but if we dont, are we any better?
I completely agree with this comment. But the ultimate propaganda is religion. Believing with all of your being that you are right (righteous), and others are going to hell is mind numbingly disgusting. That is the ultimate dehumanization.
Religious Patriarchal Dogma, hope we are finally beginning to wake up to what it truly is.
Well said kevinn!
If you have been around Zionists, holy moly, they believe they are the only people that matter. They joke about using western governments to get away with ethnic cleansing. It is kind of similar to white Christian nationalism, when people put themselves at the top just because of their ethnicity/religion.
Religion seems to be a big problem in so many conflicts. It is othering and dehumanizing and I have only just begun to accept this.
Cannot agree more.
Social media isn’t the problem. Mainstream media is the problem.
Did you ever used youtube or tiktok?? I watched one video about Israel now my feed is full of pro hamas garbage for months..
This emphasizes the danger of book banning.
No one is banning books, but UA-cam and Big Tech in general are censoring the hell out of anyone who isn't a leftist.
Zero books have been banned though.
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@@imperialmotoring3789 You're serious? You know exactly what she meant and that is your comeback? The american education system, compared to almost everywhere in the old world, is already a ridiculous travesty. Now with the banning of books that help kids to find themselves or educate them politically it's not getting any better. Just because some zealot with no clue how the real world works needs someone to step on to feel superior. Americans are already uneducated and biased enough.
It's the Evangelicals, Moms For Liberty, etc, wanting books banned and have succeeded in many schools and libraries removing books. Kids will read them anyway.
Banning books shines the light of truth in the darkness of religious zealots, greed, power and politics wanting control, so this will pass.
Light always wins.✌️
People, no matter where they live, what they wear, what language they speak are equal to everyone.
Propaganda denies our humanity too.
This is true in general, however time changes this. We are not equal in our understanding of the world and therefor in the long run our ideology. Not all ideologies are acceptable and some times war are the only thing that can remedy a bad ideology and prevent it from destroying the planet. The only thing you should judge an other human on is in what's in their hearts.
Except in times of war
"People, no matter where they live, what they wear, what language they speak are equal to everyone."
Sorry but reality doesn't support your claim. Look at the quality of life, accomplishments, behavior, etc of people in different regions. They aren't even close to being equal. You're pushing a fairy tale.
Then how did some people like... invent science... while others struggled with like... y'know... clay pottery.
Everyone got into philosophy and poetry and general thinking. Hey, great minds, give the solution!
While people in democracies are wondering if they are susceptible to propaganda, people in Gaza and Russia can't question the lies and are forced to dehumanise and hate, give a solution to that
I have never been more thankful for words. Thank you for sharing thoughts that have been going through my mind. Humanity is central to this entire conflict. Lack of humanity is the problem, remembering humanity is the only solution.
Arabs have demonstrated repeatedly that they are severely lacking in humanity. Islam has turned them into bloodthirsty killers.
How does one apply the word humanity to terrorists like Hamas and Hezbelloh, where humanity isn't part of their ideology? Their hate and evil are anathema to the notion of humanity
THIS IS JUST BRILLIANT - and the lack of eduction system addressing Civics, Media Literacy, and History - ALL history. We need to stop killing each other, on all sides.
Wow, someone who thinks Civics is important. Super!
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I am REALLY impressed by Ben Sheehan. A pet peeve of mine is lying by omission, and Mr. Sheehan mentions that. I think his definition of propaganda is excellent: “Something the makes a person lose empathy for a group of people”. I’m sure that doesn’t describe all propaganda, but certainly most of it.
The media needs to work harder at finding reasonable people to speak for a group that we are essentially told to hate. Here is an example of two kind and reasonable people: I saw a video years ago about a Jewish Israeli woman working with an Arab Israeli woman to help homeless cats in Jerusalem. The Jewish woman apparently speaks Arabic with her friend as they work to save homeless cats. It was wonderful to see. I should try to see if it’s still on UA-cam.
Im an Israeli. Thank you for your very important voice.
its important to point out that being anti occupation is not Antisemitic
Especially when it's the Palestinians who are Semitic and the Israeli settlers who are European colonisers.
@@belladonnatook8851Israel is a country built by Jewish Palestinians and Jewish refugees, on land that was designated to them by the British after the ottomans. the Arab Palestinians also were given land by the British but declared war on Israel, and Israel has been fighting defensive wars and offering peace since. The Arab leadership hasn’t wanted peace. Iran backed and trained this massacre against israel and the small Jewish population on earth. Propaganda is everywhere because many countries want to destroy Israel and America.
@@Visaviel You show yourself in the words: "...designated to them by the British..."
@@belladonnatook8851 then blame the British. Or blame the ottomans. We can keep going back a few thousand years. So you reject the existence of a Jewish state? You’d like to see Jews cast out into diaspora to be targeted elsewhere? Muslim caliphate there instead? Their mosque built on top of Jews holy temple ?
@@Visaviel Your perspective is a very pro-colonial, Eurocentric, racist perspective. The British have NEVER given anyone their OWN land (this idea is nonsensical as a whole)! The British only seek to take and exploit.
Excellent interview!
Yes I appreciate her manner of warmth, but not afraid to also ask the hard questions....also humble, does not interrupt her guests !
"I've heard u say many times that you're better than no one and no one is better than u. Well, if u really believe that, u know u have nothing to win and nothing to lose." (Bob Dylan)
In my mind, the primary goal of creation is compassion. However, seeing us rehash and repeat everything over and over throughout the centuries with no real movement forward, I prefer to stick with my hippie sensibility and accept that humans are just a wretched, selfish species and really need to just shut up and listen to the birds and insects. We can't even do that in peace.
Minimizing over killing as a vengeful response stops the empathy and that is the dilemma.
My self-esteem just jumped 50 points, as his post doesn't include me. It's probably why I've gotten some nasty replies to my Palestinian comments on YT and Twitter. Yes, I've great empathy for Palestinians, but always state that I love the Jewish people, but have never liked their government and mine on issue. Self-education, learning new things has been my life's passion. It may sound boring, but once you start you can't stop, esp since we know much of what we're taught is false or exaggerated.
Awesome! You would have been in the middle during the Holocaust. You’re great 👍 😊
@@omowhanre I see you not even watched this interview do you?. It's about the humanity of the Others.,,,
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Yes, I also am a life long learner....retired teacher at 73 yrs. Old....I want to keep learning the TRUTH.....so try to listen & research many sides of an issue!
@@omowhanre ?? In the middle ?
Appreciate you having Ben as your guest, he is a well rounded human being who is reaching out to others with beneficial information we can all embrace. Thank you!
Interesting comedian/ intellectual, and more. A good example of a 'renaissance man.'
Empathy for the individual humans being killed is important. But you simply cannot divorce that from the reasons behind it. Or from the way they die. The fact that humans are dying on both sides does not mean moral equivalence or that both sides share equal blame. One side goes out of its way to minimize casualties, the other side goes out of its way to maximize casualties. The founding document of one side expressly says they want to live in peace with its neighbors, the other side's founding document expressly says it will destroy its neighbor and kill all of its people around the world. They're just not the same.
100% THIS. Finally someone said it, and eloquently I might add. Praying for innocent victims on both sides but make no mistake- the victims on both sides are victims of Hamas. It is Hamas and their evil allies in the Muslim Brotherhood who wish for and try to bring about the bloodshed, genocide and demise of others around the world. Not the other way around. Period. 🇮🇱❤🌍☮️🕊✌️
The founding document of one side expressly says they want to live in peace with its neighbours, right after they've cleared them from the land they live on. The other side's founding document expressly says it will destroy its neighbour that cleared them from the land they live on and kill all of its people around the world. Who told you that last bit about kill all of its people around the world? Provide links please.
I think Michelle is a great interviewer.
Yes. I enjoy her genuine interest and passion. You can sense she herself as a person, and a journalist, is asking the question. She then follows up with questions based on the guest’s comments.
Ben says Israel and Gaza do not have governments which represent the sentiments of the population. Neither does Russia or (reputedly) the US. How do we respond? How do we fix that gap?
Good discussion. I'd add to the points on empathy that modern capitalism is a huge driver of anti-empathy, of dehumanization, of selfishness and cruelty. We have to get out of our neoliberal age.
Excellent interview!! The question is not "who was here first?" but "how do we create communities and nations based on shared respect for human rights?"
A religion based on love and humanity cannot ever possibly co-exist with a religion that feeds on hate, violence and pure insanity. That's why muslims should never be allowed in western democracies and should be deported. To protect the Jewish and their predominantly Christian and humanitarian values 🇮🇱🇮🇱
Right of return is the most important right for Palestinians and if it is not acknowledged then there will never be peace. Unless Europe would like to split itself in half and give itself to Palestinians.
@@yusefkhan1752 or Egypt, or Jordan, or Lebanon or Iran might split themselves in half and give themselves to the Palestinians. For that matter, maybe the US wants individual home owners to give their land back to indigenous peoples. I don’t believe in a 2 state solution. I think there has to be a one state solution where multiple communities have equal rights and can co-exist. Other wise, this will go on forever and all nations are phucked.
@@LS-kg6my europe created the problem ...
Timely and important discussion - THANKS!
Many good points in this segment. I agree that 1) most Americans are not well-educated on the history of this region, and 2) self-education is daunting! Becoming self-educated is complicated by propaganda, information overload, and, for me at least, sincere doubt about where to find the most legitimate, reliable sources.
Excellent conversation
We need more perspectives like this.
Great interview. Thanks.
Thank you all for simply voicing this… it is hard to keep in mind humanity…
Good interview from someone who is seeing how the polarization of views is causing so many to forget their humanity of late.
Jarring to realize that it takes so much effort to draw our attention to something so obvious.
It is important to separate the individual from the "government" or those who happen to have the ruling power over an area. Hamas does not represent all Palestinians. Hamas currently has power over Gaza, but does not speak for all Palestinians. Like wise, the Israeli government and it's policies, do not speak for all Israelis or Jews. The enemy is not innocent citizens and residents of the area.
The enemy is Iran. Without weapons , it would be easier to have peace and true negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis with Qatar as the mediator.
The Palestinians already have Gaza , Egypt , Syria, Lebanon ,Jordan and parts of the West Bank. I do not know what else Palestinians would want for land.
Thank you @debmnmn5054
@@ronaldabrams7222If you have an "enemy" you need to look within yourself.
They voted Hamas into power, and now, they can't shake them off.
@@ronaldabrams7222 Um...maybe PALESTINE???
So refreshing voices like this have a platform in our age, and we get more than just "official" military statements usually in denial and leaving out important parts like theres been more bombs dropped in gaza last 10 days than in afghanistan.
The covert war in Laos had us dropping over 2 million tons of munitions, making it the most bombed country in the world.
I don't watch those, because I've studied the military leadership. FYI, in last 24 hours, 180 Palestinian children were killed. Actually, I think it's more bombs than in a year in Afghanistan (if I'm remembering correctly).
Thats very possible its only 1 year of bombs 😨 you can never tell for sure as information in war is more of a tool than a way to be 100% truthfull on successes and failures. What I really fear is how they hide past deaths and dont give us the full picture but only pick whats convenient and twist the truth to the speakers advantage.@@GladysAlicea
@@kevinjenner9502Horrible. In fact... PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR.
CNN and other networks should stop airing one side’s military briefings if the opposing group cannot air theirs.
Thank you
Great interview. Should be shown in every high school.
EXCELLENT ! THANK YOU for having this guest.....invaluable insight ....especially re how easily we are swayed by mainstream & social media.....where we think we have the truth, but at best have a mere fraction of truth....and can be filled with only propaganda.....on both sides of an issue !
So true, so true, so true
Well-said!
Thank you Michelle for your compassionate and empathetic interview… excellent questions .. I learned a lot.❤❤❤
excellent interview in such a volatile situation
I love the interviewer--she is really great!
She really is. A wonderful human being.
Simply excellent discussion!!
Thank you! Enjoyed the talk very much. I wished more people could hear this young man's talk. It's very useful at this craziness time.
…when people will vote again for a person who incited violence to keep himself in power, using Goebbels’s method.
It feels like poetry because the truth makes our heart and mind sing.
He wrote an vague and sentimental Hallmark greeting card quote.
I. F. Stone had a better quote/paraphrase ," All governments lie"
yes. this is so mundane i feel like im going insane. why is everybody celebrating this lazy bullshit?
"It' so succinct!" Lol. It is perfectly suited to the attention span of those addicted to social media and susceptible to propaganda!
First line of defence against susceptibility to propaganda is teaching critical thinking to young people.
Pure soul Pure heart Pure mind
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Nuance - thank you 🙏
This shouldn’t be so hard for all sides to grasp.
Ben. Old man humanity is speaking right through you woo hoo you can’t dance around this truth well done🙏👍🖖👌
What a clever young man! Great talk
Omg.. this was an excellent interview and very insightful!! I’m so glad I listened in. His intellectual curiosity is truly admirable and seeking to educate himself on his knowledge cgaps is a great message for us all. Thank you Ben!!
This is so true, God bless Amanpour!
We have a great deal of propaganda here in Tennessee USA.
I have seen that too, what I have noticed is fake accounts jumping on a campaign on either side
The hatred towards Israelis is in some part just inhumane, however some of the anger towards Israel because of their treatment of Palestinians is a humanistic reaction and not antisemitism, it is a show of empathy for Palestinian suffering. Bad behaviour is bad behaviour even when from your own tribe.
Well said. Thank you.
Exactly
Well said 👏 👌 👍
If you have watched Palestinians interviewed you know they are not victims, they actually take ‘victimhood ‘to the death and cheer and elevate a so called martyr who actually loves killing others.it’s a sick society,taught since childhood to kill. The whole truth counts.
It is important to fill in the gaps in history. Our country and its horrific treatment of the Native people of America has only just recently been revealed fully and it is painful to know the truth. The more we reveal the awful atrocities committed in the name of progress we can make changes. And this is crucial if we are ever to advance as a species.
yeah gaps in US citizens knowledge of their own history in the land of the free, the greatest democracy, and enforcer of an international rules based order. Here is a list - which is not everything, but covers a lot - of the US actions around the world that have broken international law, have involved massive war crimes, millions of civilian deaths, and have destroyed democratic governments: Panama, Israel, Guatamala, Nicuragua, Chile, Cuba, Cambodia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, japan. There has not been an American president in the last 70 years who has not presided over US war crimes and illegal acts of aggression for political ends (commonly called terrorism)
We can't go back to ancient times and figure out where everyone's descendents are to wall everyone off from each other. We're here and now, learning from mistakes. There are 9 million Isrealis with modern cities and the Palestinians are held hostage by hatefuk relgious zealots.
No one is a bigger colonizer and opressor than islam.
Propaganda is fundamentally about *blame* and justifying morally questionable actions, past or planned. It is not about *fixing* anything.
Thank you for this interview. Propaganda fuels the fire of polarisation, polarisation seldom solves problems.
Just ask the Republicans…it has imploded because of one man’s propaganda. 😮
And this Guy is an American! He is really smart. And still part of the younger generation.
--Martin Serna
As long as we don’t address history, issues of power and occupation in this “conflict”, this is still propaganda. This framing is Israeli propaganda about both sideism. Israel has been subjugating a population for decades, but no need to talk about that. Let’s ignore the apartheid state under which Palestinians live. Let’s just koombaya in our humanity.
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Wow! Thank you for this.
It's been going on for +70 years and the world was watching. Don't forget that.
Proof again that there are many good honest people out there
It’s a celebration of humanity
Thank you for igniting the concept of empathy and simply respecting human life
Human life is sacred and we must pass the test of our shared humanity by registering our empathy
When my husband was in Highschool, one of his teachers warned the class that Civics classes would be taken out in within 10 years. Well, I’m 4 years younger than my husband. I didn’t have civics classes in Highschool. My father was a juvenile court attorney representing family reunification, so he must’ve instilled some civics lessons within me. It’s important to know how things work, because there are people always waiting to take advantage of another person’s ignorance. The learning never stops….
Great guest and comments. Thanks.
Awesome! Want to see more piece like this!! Thank you.
“The Luxury of being Dispassionate”, sadly but beautifully said…. It’s a lot easier to not be affected when we don’t lack any of life’s needs/necessities. Education is our greatest tool in life… people are just people… but propaganda has been the power driven bodies of political parties’ greatest tool and as we have seen and witnessed time and time again it seems to work pretty well on the masses. Very sad 😞
Excellent.
Well done. Michelle Martin
Ben points the way to an actual route to peace which doesn't involve "crushing the other side". We need more people like Ben out there.
But one side is literally "crushing" the other side. How will you bothside and sugarcoat that?
Blame mainstream media bias. People flocking to social media to express their outrage.
Yes, education on to gather our news!!!
Brilliant interview. Just want to add that, as someone who grew up with Mad comics, American comedy is very serious.
Unless one sees the commonality among all living beings without attaching any colour of religion, sex, region, race and so on, and understands it convincingly no solution can be found for any problem between them!
If you can walk past a homeless person and not look in the person’s face and even stop to ask if you can do something then you also need to check your ability for empathy because empathy is innate to being in the world.
Very impressive young man. Thanks!
The first time I've heard Michel break. What Ben wrote is poetry in the sense that it awakens us.
Good man.
Great reflection on primary and high school education on US, specifically on world history. It is so unsatisfactory in the US, so widely US centric, children in the US are not educated on US colonization issues, it is a bit romantized such as the tale of Pocahontas. Now imagine on other international topics.
“It’s really daunting to self educate.”
Good job American schools, colleges, and universities!
I think the backlash came from the unequivocal backing of the Israeli government. People took any questioning or criticism of the Israeli government meant we were antisemitic, and that isn't true. Criticizing the USA and it's policies isn't anti-American. Nobody gets a full pass. I think that's why the Free Palestine voices became louder.
Yes, OF COURSE, the strike from Hamas was horrific. I can understand why there is lashing out for Palestinian plight of occupation and aparthied, lack of resources and walled in--no free movement. Who wouldn't fight what is unjust? I understand why Israelis are fearful for their survival, and wanting to control the region for their safety.
No one in the USA was calling for ceasefire. (I still don't hear it.( No one was calling to not decimate the innocents. There were just a simplification of bad guys and good guys. Name calling of Terrorists on one side, with no counter-name of terror on the other. The complete pro-Israel propaganda machine in the USA started working overtime. We fund Israel at 3.44 billion a year. For their safety, but our silence on the plight of Palestinians is a crime of complicity. We can be against governments and their policies. That most certainly doesn't mean we are against citizens of those governments.
War is not the answer. We must find a path to peace. Most people are loving. Most people are good. Most people just want to live freely in safety, with roofs over their heads, food to eat, and water to drink. On all sides they are crying for their children, their mothers, their fathers, their grandparents, their neighbors. These aren't the people causing this. We are witnessing man's inhumanity to man.
Why is it that suddenly there's a rash of comedians commenting on social issues? And many of them like Konstantin Kissin and this gentleman are actually smarter, more rational and emotionally stable than many academics and journalists.
Thank you for your thoughts and care
Honestly, I'm always afraid to show public compassion for the Palestinians, so I very much appreciated this interview. I have at least some understanding of this situation, and over the decades have always expected one terrorist group or another to rise up, ostensibly, as reactionary movements against oppression. And whether sooner or later, they do. It can't be either condoned or justified, but until the people of Palestine are not suffering at the hands of the Israeli government/military, I don't see how this will ever end. Oppression always leads to violence. It's not a matter of if, but when.
My heart breaks for all of the Israeli and Palestinian civilians who are suffering. My one wish is that people learn to place themselves in the shoes of others and ask the question, "what would I do?"
It's not "oppression" to keep someone at arms length when they are actively trying to hurt you.
It's not "oppression" to take steps to make sure that person can never be strong enough to accomplish their goal of hurting you.
Man... This... Is a hot hot take.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat It is, however oppression when you are denied the basic rights and freedoms that every human being deserves, is it not? Do you also approve of Israel seizing land from Palestinians? Land that has been in the hands of those Palestinian families for generations? Would that be something that you would tolerate without objection? Do you feel it is okay that Palestinians, many of whom dislike Hamas as much as Israeli's do, are treated as though they are inferior? Do you believe apartheid is rational or justified in any situation? Historically, such tactics never work, and only lead to conflict. Why should this be any different?
Too many people are reacting to propaganda, and not enough of us are searching out the organizations, such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch to see what's really happening. These organizations make it there job to investigate and report on human rights violations, including what's happened for decades in Gaza/Israel.
It is well beyond "keeping people at arms length." Perhaps if we experienced it ourselves, we might have a better understanding of each side.
As I stated originally, my heart goes out to all people who are currently losing their basic human rights, or whose lives are threatened by the violence that so often seems to erupt around such issues. Our governing bodies are failing everywhere, and too many innocent people are paying the price.
Why are you afraid? Bad behaviour has to be called out regardless of the perpetrator. The adage - bad things happen when good people do nothing - springs to mind.
@@voulafisentzidis8830I agree, bad behavior needs to be exposed and discouraged. Unfortunately, people in some countries who sympathize with the suffering of the Palestinian people, or who speak out against their general treatment in Israel, are being fired from their jobs and/or labeled as "anti-semitic." Even "thoughts and prayers" for Palestinians are earning some people a pink slip.
Love it! He is from my town in Pasadena, CA! A super liberal, smart, full of scientists from JPL, and Caltech geniuses ❤
My Christian pastor spent a month in Palestine and came back broken
Very nice interview... the only thing that surprised me was the fact that he talked about the demonstrations in Israel, and he brought it up to prove his point of the discontent Israelis feel towards the government, when he should have brought it as an excellent example of what propaganda can do.
As someone who conducts research about propaganda, and seems to be a fairly intelligent person, I would be surprised if it escaped from his eyes, as it was getting to be ridiculous towards the end (Oct 7th).
Two possible conclusions would be:
1. He didn't realise.
2. He did realise it and he is a lefty that doesn't like the government, and he preferred to make propaganda himself!
I would bet on number 2 🤭🙈
“War Made Easy:How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning US to Death”. An examination of five decades of American War propaganda. Narrated by Sean Penn.
stop spinning anti-US propaganda
_"tribalism"_ - That says volumes. :O/-
Aphorisms, the only good shock we have left post-punk rock.
Wow, this guy is wise... Awesome, we need more of him!
Here's a lesson in empathy, that would be awkward in any military speech or even any conversation among soldiers. Replace the word 'enemy' with 'colleagues'.
I wish this clip would get out to all deniers and to those who have fallen victim to all forms of propaganda.
Our life span is short enough. Humanity is now bombarded with differences rather than sameness. We 're act' more than act, we follow rather than create. We have become a sponge of everything evil. We think we are making a stand, are we? What if we are on the wrong side?
I very much appreciate this guest's contribution to our understanding. Thank you! 🙏
I would hope that the majority of humans would read/hear these words and think “well of course”.
Excellent.
I love this take, as an over-arching humanist perspective scrubbed of any particular politics. And how he didn’t overthink it, writing it in 5 minutes in a taxi.