@user-pv8jy1nt8f everything points to Cannan. His photo fit, the bottle of champagne he had with ribbons on the bottle, which previous girlfriends said he did. He was released nearby 3 days prior, the comment to a girlfriend about Suzy being buried at Norton barracks. The police said his body language was telling them he did it
Sorry. I take it back saying you were Cannan. Suzy Lamphugh was a beauty. It was the reason it affected me more than any similar case. I like New York and San Francisco. Hope you live in a nice part. Us is cool. I am curious how you know I am not from us. I am from uk, unfortunately. @user-pv8jy1nt8f
@user-pv8jy1nt8f Suzy was so beautiful. It makes the case even more tragic. Cannans a piece of shit. The other amazing fact is she worked long a go with another famous English serial killer.Steve Wright on the QE2. Why can't I have those odds when I do the lottery?
@user-pv8jy1nt8f Suzy Lamphugh was extremely beautiful. She knew Steve Wright, another English serial killer as well when she was on the QE2. What are the odds on that? Why can't I get those odds playing the euro?
Interesting about the dating agency video. According to Christopher Berry Dee's excellent book on Cannan, the dating agency owner said she had a bad feeling about him from the start and decided not to show the video to any clients. This (earlier) documentary claims the opposite. I'm inclined to believe that it was shown to women and the agency lady later denied it when she realised the potentially deadly consequences that could have resulted.
snowbelle74 I recall reading that he was a magnet for women and they'd flock round him in pubs etc? Weird that he'd use an agency really but he's all about specific types? Weird guy.
No I don't think she had him down as violent she or nobody can know that. All she felt was a bad feeling about him which she could have had with other clients too. I don't think Circumstantial evidence is good enough . People are on death row on Circumstantial evidence or even executed but they're innocent. Very tragic story.
The woman from the dating agency sounds incredibly shallow. When she said "he was wearing a nice suit", it's laughable. As if that was some kind of guarantee of a good character.
My old uncle used to warn me back in the 90's not to be wary of people casually or shabbily dressed but it's the ones who dress sharp that you have to watch out for.
Yeah he used a few words incorrectly in that dating video. Anyone smart would have spotted it. But when someone's attractive you tend to overlook such flaws. You don't have to be dumb to fall for charm.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this man ever got out, tonnes of feminists protested, and then he got savagely bumped off a few days later by an otherwise misogynistic incel who never had any luck with women, so instead wanted Mr Cannan to feel how his victims felt? That would be brilliant!
"I`m in a sedimentary period"?..."I like dry humour such as Benny Hill"??..........hahaha....He`s not half as educated and clever as he and most of people in this vid seem to think he is!!
Course they did, they just lied about it so they didn't look bad, nonoffense but a lot of people join agencies and now apps cos they can't pick up women in real life, she would have probably thought this is a good guy to the normal weirfos that they get total bullshit
The best part of Bundy & Cannan ( actually there’s no best part ) ran down the wall of an outside toilet as there was no bog roll, scum sucking filth. I can see through Cannan all day long, the BS spiel and over confidence is plain to see.
I remember the old htv commercial i would of been around 9 maybe 10 ol bob crampton with a moustache i remember him and Richard wyatt and bruce Hocking
Cannan certainly had a type , Shirley and suzy looked so similar, with the blonde hair and good looks , please don't let this beast out , he will kill again , he's a danger to innocent women .
Dashing good looks? I don't think so. I saw part of his datinginterview without knowing who he was and I thought he was arrogant and full of it. I don't think the woman filming his dating video was in danger, but you would think this might make her think of doing at least a cursory background check on her agency's clients, but it didn't get mentioned. Police gave tons of support to Shirley's parents, but left her husband hanging, that was horrible.
He was handsome by the standards of the day, you can't really judge a person's looks by their mugshot when they have been dragged out of bed at 5am by armed police and realise they are going away for the rest of their life
Suzy was one of the most beautiful women ever and forever this case will sadden me a lot more than others because of it. Cannan should be burned alive.
He has hinted to the police, in interviews, that he will confess to being responsible for the murder & rape of Suzy Lamplugh, once his mother dies, I read this on Wikipedia, I doubt he is getting out and I think he knows this. I get the feeling his mother couldn’t handle hearing anything more about her psychopathic rapist son, hence why he won’t say. Why he can’t extend that consideration to the Lamplugh family I don’t know.😢
As I stated above: Serial killers love the fact they know where the body is but nobody else does. No, narcissistic people like Cannan will NOT say where he buried SL just because he is on his death bed. That dark secret only he knows means literally everything to him until the moment he dies. Our law just doesn't understand that just questioning him makes zero progress in the Lamplugh case. The way to deal with people like this is to torture them every single day with boiling hot water or a whip until they tell the truth about where their victims are buried. If they give a red herring, then the torturing doubles every time. They would then be forced to choose between keeping their secret or daily excruciating pain. Narcissistic people only respond to acts of violence.
It seems Cannan was left with psychological scars from his childhood. His father was distant and antagonistic toward him, leaving him with a deep sense of anger whereas his mother worshipped him, leaving him with deeply narcissistic sense of self entitlement. A very poisonous mix - so much of this type of crime is about the criminal seeking a sense of power over someone else. You can trace that back directly to his childhood.
Yeah it seems that their control is quite fragile when tested too like the woman who fought him off and other stories I’ve read of women breaking the control of would be attackers
@@ollyf5088 I guess the moral is to always fight in those situations....If they want your handbag, wallet, necklace or watch, give it to them. But if they want you fight like hell from the jump.
@@noongourfain it's a very tough situation to be in. There have been cases where the attacker has become more sexually excited in those circumstances and it's made things worse. Others where the lack of fighting has "spoiled it" for them and they've retreated. It's a life or death decision that nobody should ever have to take.
Life in the jail sentence meaning is a bit confusing and doesn't actually mean "life". Someone sentenced to "life" serves on average between 9 and 15 years. If his sentence was increased to 35 years, he's actually had his prison sentence increased, not reduced.
Serial killers love the fact they know where the body is but nobody else does. No, narcissistic people like Cannan will NOT say where he buried SL just because he is on his death bed. That dark secret only he knows means literally everything to him until the moment he dies. Our law just doesn't understand that just questioning him makes zero progress in the Lamplugh case. The way to deal with people like this is to torture them every single day with boiling hot water or a whip until they tell the truth about where their victims are buried. If they give a red herring, then the torturing doubles every time. They would then be forced to choose between keeping their secret or daily excruciating pain. Narcissistic people only respond to acts of violence.
I don't think that kind of thing occurred to anyone in those days. It was events like this that changed their approach. But then what checks are done today on dating sites?@@chrisj622
Let's be honest - I think it was more to do with the fact that he used to make out that he had money. They just don't want to say it, because it shows how shallow so many of the people who gravitated to him were. The lady from the dating agency seems particularly shallow.
The attitude towards dating agencies though.. basically if you are good looking and have lots going for you you should have "no trouble" finding someone suggesting anyone who uses them is an ugly loser.
That attitude remains the same today. For all the background details about an individual all that really matters is how they look. Current online dating sites are just like this. No one reads the profile unless they're attractive. John Cannan would have had a field day. All you have to be is good-looking and dishonest. John Cannan had a fair idea what most women wanted to hear. All a psychopath has to do is lie - by the time his victim realises it'll be too late.
I read the book on the case - the reason he had the car and fancy flat was one of his aunts died while he was in jail and left him eight grand. A decent sum in 1986.
@@leedummett4412 Asfar as I remember, it was left to him while he was inside so yes. That's how he funded his lifestyle. I'm sure it was eight grand but it's a while since I read the book. Another thing I read was that his nickname amongst the other guys in the London hostel was 'Kipper' because he always wore a kipper tie. I've always had a fascination for this case as I live in Bristol and remember it very well - it could've been any of our girlfriends. But I've never thought he abducted Shirley Banks that evening - he drank in pubs and bars she frequented and I reckon he charmed her in some way to join him for a drink/get in his car. He could charm the birds from the trees.
I remember this so well as I lived in Bristol when Shirley Banks went missing. It made my blood run cold. RIP. Shirley.
And Suzy.
@user-pv8jy1nt8f everything points to Cannan. His photo fit, the bottle of champagne he had with ribbons on the bottle, which previous girlfriends said he did. He was released nearby 3 days prior, the comment to a girlfriend about Suzy being buried at Norton barracks. The police said his body language was telling them he did it
Sorry. I take it back saying you were Cannan. Suzy Lamphugh was a beauty. It was the reason it affected me more than any similar case. I like New York and San Francisco. Hope you live in a nice part. Us is cool. I am curious how you know I am not from us. I am from uk, unfortunately.
@user-pv8jy1nt8f
@user-pv8jy1nt8f Suzy was so beautiful. It makes the case even more tragic. Cannans a piece of shit. The other amazing fact is she worked long a go with another famous English serial killer.Steve Wright on the QE2. Why can't I have those odds when I do the lottery?
@user-pv8jy1nt8f Suzy Lamphugh was extremely beautiful. She knew Steve Wright, another English serial killer as well when she was on the QE2. What are the odds on that? Why can't I get those odds playing the euro?
Interesting about the dating agency video. According to Christopher Berry Dee's excellent book on Cannan, the dating agency owner said she had a bad feeling about him from the start and decided not to show the video to any clients. This (earlier) documentary claims the opposite. I'm inclined to believe that it was shown to women and the agency lady later denied it when she realised the potentially deadly consequences that could have resulted.
snowbelle74 I recall reading that he was a magnet for women and they'd flock round him in pubs etc? Weird that he'd use an agency really but he's all about specific types? Weird guy.
snowbelle74 just ordered that book Prime Suspect on Amazon now. Thanks for the pointer.
Total narcissist, even though he was described as ' charming ' like most loons he could not help himself. I also have him as Suzy Lamplughs killer...
Difficult to see how he's not Suze's killer.
No I don't think she had him down as violent she or nobody can know that. All she felt was a bad feeling about him which she could have had with other clients too. I don't think Circumstantial evidence is good enough . People are on death row on Circumstantial evidence or even executed but they're innocent. Very tragic story.
most serial killers are charming. Its the odd looking people who are usually harmless. They pretend to fit in.
Yep, tony Blair had a million victims but to walk past him you wouldn’t think much
You are a twat @Jimmy Johnston
well, I guess it depends. A lot are also very socially inadequate and isolated and take out their rage on others.
I suspect Jason has a dog in this fight
@@th8257 Good confession..
He basically doesn't like people who are even vaguely like him
Classic deflection.
Yep I've had women who describe them self's as not a type of why they end up being exactly like they said they wernt
Cannan and Ted Bundy have very similar profiles, family background, victimology and even look similar .
Yes I think the same! Bundy is slightly sicker though, and Canaan is bad enough!
And reek of BO then too……..
I fancy them both
The lady who runs the dating agency is beautiful, she has no idea how lucky she is that her husband was there!!
She’s a dumb ass
@@jamesseamge9216 Yes, and obviously had no knowledge of the kind of men she had on her books!
@@telsclark woman.
@@chapintweed thank you
She seems incredibly shallow
The woman from the dating agency sounds incredibly shallow. When she said "he was wearing a nice suit", it's laughable. As if that was some kind of guarantee of a good character.
Krays wore them they were lovely..
She also clearly judged people who used her own agency. Odd.
I don't wear suits...
My old uncle used to warn me back in the 90's not to be wary of people casually or shabbily dressed but it's the ones who dress sharp that you have to watch out for.
Totally agree
Mr Kipper name was Dan, what is that an anagram of . . . Kidnapper.
The British Ted Bundy.
Definitely similar
Looks like Teddy.
Exactly. Such similar profiles & victimology
Ooo
Exactly what I said. X
He liked Ghandi, Prince Charles, and Benny Hill...
Nuff said...
⚠️QUEUE BENNY HILL MUSIC⚠️ 🎷
😂Yeah and I bet I know the reason why he liked Benny Hill
24.35 he said "financially I'm in a sedimentary period". He needs to liquidate some of that finance & buy himself a dictionary!
Yeah he used a few words incorrectly in that dating video. Anyone smart would have spotted it. But when someone's attractive you tend to overlook such flaws. You don't have to be dumb to fall for charm.
Sedimentary: Of, containing, resembling, or derived from sediment. The burial of his victims? He could have been taking the mickey.
Cannan looks like the actor in the Lovejoy TV series,
Ian mcshane
He looks more like Liam Gallagher but yes, Ian McShane too. Creepy eyes and eyebrows
and Ted Bundy!
Wouldn't it be ironic if this man ever got out, tonnes of feminists protested, and then he got savagely bumped off a few days later by an otherwise misogynistic incel who never had any luck with women, so instead wanted Mr Cannan to feel how his victims felt? That would be brilliant!
He's average he isn't some super hunk. Had he looked like Ryan Reynolds I could understand but this guy looks and acts like a creep.
I suspect that the perception that he may have had money played at large part in it
"I`m in a sedimentary period"?..."I like dry humour such as Benny Hill"??..........hahaha....He`s not half as educated and clever as he and most of people in this vid seem to think he is!!
he certainly isn't as clever as he thinks
In fairness those lines are hilarious......but because they are so stupid.
A revealing insight into his delusions of grandeur about himself.
Joined up eyebrow = Murderer
It has been said.
💯 😂
Being a true crime fan, I read a book on Cannan a few years back. He’s an absolute fiend who is a constant danger to women; he will never be released.
Dashing good looks? WTF. Ted Bundy lookalike.
I know right. A dashing good looking man is someone like that cute faced James Norton 😍NOT this weirdo.
And yet many women were attracted to ted Bundy too
The smiling assassin. He totally unsettles me.
The dating agency didn’t publish his interview so they were NOT inundated with request. Factually wrong
Course they did, they just lied about it so they didn't look bad, nonoffense but a lot of people join agencies and now apps cos they can't pick up women in real life, she would have probably thought this is a good guy to the normal weirfos that they get total bullshit
@@neillp3827they did release it and he got a huge response from women. This can be heard on this video, by a news reporter of the day.
Looking like Ted Bundys brother.
@Kenyan Bunnie Spot on, totally! You hit the nail on the head. I was wracking my brain wondering who he looked similar too.
UK version of Ted Bundy. So scary.
Juden
The woman in the dating agency couldn’t see what a tool he was
She comes across as incredibly shallow
@@th8257 she obviously fancied him...I'd say she was secretly raging her husband was there that day.
He and Ted Bundy were hatched from the same egg.
He is the British Bundy. A handsome, confident, intelligent, charmer. He also looks very much like him.
Unfortunately he’d be flattered to hear that.. psychopaths love notoriety
The best part of Bundy & Cannan ( actually there’s no best part ) ran down the wall of an outside toilet as there was no bog roll, scum sucking filth.
I can see through Cannan all day long, the BS spiel and over confidence is plain to see.
I remember the old htv commercial i would of been around 9 maybe 10 ol bob crampton with a moustache i remember him and Richard wyatt and bruce Hocking
Evil pure evil should never be released,
Cannan certainly had a type , Shirley and suzy looked so similar, with the blonde hair and good looks , please don't let this beast out , he will kill again , he's a danger to innocent women .
When your given a full life term in an English court. That’s exactly what it means.
@@Carpetlay1 No - it got reduced. He was later ordered to serve 35 years and is eligible for parole in October 2022.
@@westminsterwatcher5152 He comes up for parole in 2024. Three years...not long. Let's hope he doesn't get out
@@mancunianinlondon October 2022 - actually
@@westminsterwatcher5152 He won’t be coming out.
Ray Wyre such a relaxing soothing voice 😴😴
Very sordid character though, another pervert involved with the McCanns
@@chipbuttytime3396 yep and on the elm guest house list , another wrongun
@@Alessiasbackheal 👍
RaySMR
16:12 Unbelievable that a policeman knocked on poor Richard Banks’ door with a picture of Shirley asking ‘Have you seen this woman?’
That part came on as l was reading your comment...what a disgrace.
The sound is diabolical.
He's actually nothing special to look at so he's obviously got an inflated ego as well as being so evil
The younger brother of the late Ted Bundy...
Dashing good looks? I don't think so. I saw part of his datinginterview without knowing who he was and I thought he was arrogant and full of it. I don't think the woman filming his dating video was in danger, but you would think this might make her think of doing at least a cursory background check on her agency's clients, but it didn't get mentioned. Police gave tons of support to Shirley's parents, but left her husband hanging, that was horrible.
Good looks lol is he Ted Bundys brother
A play boy hahahaha
The British Ted Bundy..
Some interesting comments on him from fellow pupils can be found on the …..
...''I went to Riland - Bedford High School'' site.
He was handsome by the standards of the day, you can't really judge a person's looks by their mugshot when they have been dragged out of bed at 5am by armed police and realise they are going away for the rest of their life
I suspect the fact that he pretended he had money had a lot to do with it too, sadly.
I think the shocked look on his face came from the realisation that he was about to get five years of his own medicine.
‘Yes I’ve admired a few, people like Gandhi, philosophers like Bertrand Russell’..I bet he pissing himself with laughter at his own b.s
Suzy was one of the most beautiful women ever and forever this case will sadden me a lot more than others because of it. Cannan should be burned alive.
Or buried alive??
He has hinted to the police, in interviews, that he will confess to being responsible for the murder & rape of Suzy Lamplugh, once his mother dies, I read this on Wikipedia, I doubt he is getting out and I think he knows this.
I get the feeling his mother couldn’t handle hearing anything more about her psychopathic rapist son, hence why he won’t say. Why he can’t extend that consideration to the Lamplugh family I don’t know.😢
As I stated above: Serial killers love the fact they know where the body is but nobody else does. No, narcissistic people like Cannan will NOT say where he buried SL just because he is on his death bed. That dark secret only he knows means literally everything to him until the moment he dies. Our law just doesn't understand that just questioning him makes zero progress in the Lamplugh case.
The way to deal with people like this is to torture them every single day with boiling hot water or a whip until they tell the truth about where their victims are buried. If they give a red herring, then the torturing doubles every time. They would then be forced to choose between keeping their secret or daily excruciating pain.
Narcissistic people only respond to acts of violence.
Apparently john’s had a stroke in prison and needs care now
Good, he should have a few more with no care…..
Hope he cofesses to where suzi body is
Correct, in poor health now as of December 2023.
ray was a good pychologist.
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It seems Cannan was left with psychological scars from his childhood. His father was distant and antagonistic toward him, leaving him with a deep sense of anger whereas his mother worshipped him, leaving him with deeply narcissistic sense of self entitlement. A very poisonous mix - so much of this type of crime is about the criminal seeking a sense of power over someone else. You can trace that back directly to his childhood.
Yeah it seems that their control is quite fragile when tested too like the woman who fought him off and other stories I’ve read of women breaking the control of would be attackers
@@ollyf5088 I guess the moral is to always fight in those situations....If they want your handbag, wallet, necklace or watch, give it to them. But if they want you fight like hell from the jump.
@@noongourfain it's a very tough situation to be in. There have been cases where the attacker has become more sexually excited in those circumstances and it's made things worse. Others where the lack of fighting has "spoiled it" for them and they've retreated. It's a life or death decision that nobody should ever have to take.
@@th8257 Very good points
If you watch the movie House of Mortal Sins, you get an idea. Look specifically at Stephanie Beauchamp in the movie. And the general story/tone.
His sentence has been reduced to 35 years from life,crazy
Life in the jail sentence meaning is a bit confusing and doesn't actually mean "life". Someone sentenced to "life" serves on average between 9 and 15 years. If his sentence was increased to 35 years, he's actually had his prison sentence increased, not reduced.
I heard in one program that he wouldn’t even be considered for parole until he’s over 65 years old.
Serial killers love the fact they know where the body is but nobody else does. No, narcissistic people like Cannan will NOT say where he buried SL just because he is on his death bed. That dark secret only he knows means literally everything to him until the moment he dies. Our law just doesn't understand that just questioning him makes zero progress in the Lamplugh case.
The way to deal with people like this is to torture them every single day with boiling hot water or a whip until they tell the truth about where their victims are buried. If they give a red herring, then the torturing doubles every time. They would then be forced to choose between keeping their secret or daily excruciating pain.
Narcissistic people only respond to acts of violence.
Surely a dating agency should do checks. It’s not hard even then. Shocking.
You can't access people's criminal records just like that. And I disagree - it was *much* harder back then
Harder yes but there are checks you could of done and ways to do it. It’s not difficult
@@chrisj622for example?
I don't think that kind of thing occurred to anyone in those days. It was events like this that changed their approach. But then what checks are done today on dating sites?@@chrisj622
He reminds me of Ted Bundy
SHE COULD HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED...
She was abducted? Then murdered.
I think he seems.wierd not.good.looking.just odd
Monsieur Kippeur
Dashing good looks? Really?
Yeah that's not his fault, you've been spoilt you've been with me im a absolute adonis you can't keep you're hands off me
Maybe by the standards in the UK 1980s!
He looks like Bundy and Bundy was also reported to be “handsome” 🤢 I guess the standards of US 1970s-80s
Let's be honest - I think it was more to do with the fact that he used to make out that he had money. They just don't want to say it, because it shows how shallow so many of the people who gravitated to him were. The lady from the dating agency seems particularly shallow.
Jill dando bought kippers the day she was killed!
The attitude towards dating agencies though.. basically if you are good looking and have lots going for you you should have "no trouble" finding someone suggesting anyone who uses them is an ugly loser.
That attitude remains the same today. For all the background details about an individual all that really matters is how they look. Current online dating sites are just like this. No one reads the profile unless they're attractive. John Cannan would have had a field day. All you have to be is good-looking and dishonest. John Cannan had a fair idea what most women wanted to hear. All a psychopath has to do is lie - by the time his victim realises it'll be too late.
you basically have to be missing 24 hours before the police start looking for you
With the exception of people with - learning difficulties/mentally retarded/dementia.
Ray Wye a very dodgy character in his right.
Your not kidding, a right dodgey twat.
I'm curious as to why you allege this?
@@stevebbuk search him on youtube.
Who's Ray Wye?
He came across as a confident aggressive person and I quite liked him......
Go see him in prison and be alone with him
@@chrisj622 it's what she said you moron
@@chrisj622 that comment was a quote from the dating agency woman...she was obviously infatuated with the guy.
Yes she could have been a victim too
It’s a good answer - everyone affected must not fall for the media line and attack the system which could do better
In my mind anyone who doesnt like benny hill he's not to be trusted in America we loved benny H. The British people did benny dirty RIP MR HILL
Life should mean life,but it dosnt
That's why there's a "whole of life" sentence
info on here is wrong. i dont believe cannan had access to a fancy BMW. he had only been out of the scrubs for 3 days.
I read the book on the case - the reason he had the car and fancy flat was one of his aunts died while he was in jail and left him eight grand. A decent sum in 1986.
@@thebadloser i think it was an uncle that died and left him some cash. i thought it was about 3 grand.
did cannan have access to the money when suzy vanished in july 1986.
@@leedummett4412 Asfar as I remember, it was left to him while he was inside so yes. That's how he funded his lifestyle. I'm sure it was eight grand but it's a while since I read the book. Another thing I read was that his nickname amongst the other guys in the London hostel was 'Kipper' because he always wore a kipper tie. I've always had a fascination for this case as I live in Bristol and remember it very well - it could've been any of our girlfriends. But I've never thought he abducted Shirley Banks that evening - he drank in pubs and bars she frequented and I reckon he charmed her in some way to join him for a drink/get in his car. He could charm the birds from the trees.
@@thebadloser cannan also did armed robbery on small banks to fund his lifestyle.
Cannan is very handsome and suave , he looks like Michael Fassbender