The only thing I find odd is the comment on the alarm. If someone works at the same time every day, it’s not hard to create an alarm that goes off every day. Doesn’t mention that when they check the alarm, it was one that goes off every day or was created for just that day. The rest of it is pretty obvious. The guy seemed off during the interrogation. JMO.
He said he picked up the gun because he considered killing himself for a second. Even if they had found his fingerprints on the gun or found GSR on his hands, he already had an excuse in place.
“He cares about his spiritual life. He’s a devoted Christian.” I am so utterly sick and tired of this being a blanket defense that someone who is spiritual or religious is automatically a good person.
I thought that was an odd comment as well. I mean, most prisoners in the US are Christians too, I would think. How does that make someone less likely to be guilty? 😂
True that !! Dismissing responsibility & accountability to another entity seems the norm in USA anymore! godLives- jebusForgives- & theDevil madeMe doIt- Repent, Repeat - What were the christian crusades to begin with? Couldnt be more vicious than that !
Exactly. When I left I did so in a way that seemed spur of the moment to my abuser. He was blindsided, but I was safe because of that. In reality I’d been planning for months.
So sad that the deceased had a rough childhood, only to fall prey to another abusive human being. Hoping she is surrounded by angels in heaven - she deserves nothing less.
The most daming evidence is Kristen was starting to take control of her life while in a controlling marriage. That is the most dangerous time with a mentally abusive partner.
It's true. The default in heterosexual relationships is that the female is the controlling partner. Usually everything has to be done on her terms/texts need to be responded to quickly etc etc. We're okay as a society with that because we're a gynocentric society. If it's the man in control however and the female starts asserting herself then he's almost certainly guilty of mental abuse.
Did you even watch the documentary? Abuse doesn’t always have to be physical, it can come in the form of them ruining your self esteem, controlling you whereabouts and telling you what to do. The restraints don't always have to be physical.
He cried so fake during the interrogation. But he calmly chatted about video games with the responding officer, even though he 'just found' his wife dead. Creepy man.
He did, but have u ever had paramedics at ur house? It takes a long time. The police started the conversation. That tells me how long it was taking. Maybe they did it to entrap him? We can't be cool with that. What if he's innocent? Or the next person is? I think he did it but it's wild how that's the focus instead of WHY the COP asked him what he played. Edit: As someone whose mom used to live just an hour away from Hays, I DO commend these cops on their digital detection.👏👏👏
As soon as the 911 call started, one minute in, I was like, “oh, there’s the killer.” Reminds me of a little kid crying when they’ve done something they shouldn’t.
People like you are so sad to me because you don't understand that everyone is different and will respond to terrible situations differently. I've called 911 a few times in my life and you'd label me a murderer after hearing those calls. True crime media has made people think they're a lot more intuitive than they are. You included.
I was not going to read the comments so I wouldn't read everything that happened in the story but i heard him fake crying and was like "nevermind, i know what happened" I can't say what i think or it will get deleted
He's cut from the same cloth that he mother is cut from. As she likely lives to lie, control and manipulate, as well. When she said that she couldn't read Christian, I had to role my eyes. As only manipulators and control freaks will aim to read and dissect others. As they're not use to forming real and genuine unions. Their approach usually has to do with what they can get, how they can use and benefit whomever. She ain't fooling a soul!
As someone who dresses modestly and prides in that, i absolutely agree. If i were going to off myself, id be dressed. So thats certainly a huge red flag. If you ever find me dead and naked, someone took me out. Period.
I sleep naked but I dress fairly modestly in public. I can guarantee if I knew someone would have to find my body I wouldn’t want to be found naked. So I’m with you there.
Yes, that's one of the red flags, women very rarely, just about flat-out never commit suicide nude. There was a case wherein a woman's husband said she shot herself after coming out of the shower (if memory serves), nude, and this husband got away with it, sickening.
"He was a devoted Christian" - So what, he was also a murderer. I really hate it when they say things like that, as though religious people don't commit crimes.
The Jewish people of Jesus day were very "religious ", they were still responsible for his death. It's the individual. " Religion " is used for a variety of crimes, for, or against, a religion.
Some time ago I read a flyer for battered and abused women and I always took that advice seriously because it's sound advice. 1. Never tell an abuse that you're leaving. Gather your documents and a few clothes and leave. You can take the rest later with a police escort. 2. the three weeks (aprox.) after leaving an abusive partner is the most dangerous time of your life. Leave to a place you know he's not going to look for you . Not your parents's house, not your friend's house that he know of. Lay low for at least three weeks after. Don't go to places where you routinely go to. It's not fair that you have to give up on yet more things, but it's better to be alive than sorry. 3. Gather evidence. Make a folder with photos if you have any, texts, theats, damanges if he damaneged your property in any way. The first response in a situation like this is to block, change your number, etc. but if you can still keep your old number and record the threatening texts etc and angry voice mails he sends you, that would be awesome. Taht will help you get a restraining order in place. You can even leave that phone number with someone you trust and get a second phone number for your personal use. And this is my personal addition, turn off your location on all social media apps, and even on your phone all together. If you could get off social media for a while that would be in your interest to not give your location or schedule away. Stay safe girls!
You can also go to a women’s shelter they are not allowed to come near you and they have everything you need food companionship from w0men going through the same things
Nah. It would be normal if his prints were on it. Ofc if its blood prints, then he touched it afterwards. But that can also happen. Its odd that he placed the gun back on her though. Thats not something you'd likely do. But not strong evidence, or evidence at all. Its just one in a number of things thats uncommon and may raise suspicion. But its not evidence.
You can fake fingerprints but not GSR. Both their hands should've been tested for GSR and that would've told the whole story. Either she had it or not.
I don’t know if I agree with this whatsoever. I’ve heard plenty of 911 calls during which the caller begins with what’s happened / happening. People react in incredibly different ways to traumatic events. Some cannot even get out any words. I can see what you mean if the caller goes into a detailed story that states their alibi & tries to make themselves seem totally not part of whatever happened, including immediately blaming someone else. Nevertheless, let’s say there was a robbery the wife was killed while the husband was out (having come home to discover the body). It wouldn’t be surprising if the husband (the caller) began with, “It seems like there’s been a break-in or robbery at my home & my wife is dead.” Something else- some people act surprisingly calm in the face of a traumatic event, like discovering a violent death. It’s likely because shock has set in, & they shut down, relaying their observations in acute & calm detail. We expect people to cry & scream “help,” but that’s just not always true. As I’ve shown, there are many reasons why your statement isn’t necessarily correct; it’s far too complex & people react far too individually to make any assured comprehensive judgment.
Ok, well that's only your experience. That doesn't mean that everyone is like you. You can't generalize everyone's experience based on your own. I think he killed her, but just saying you can't use your own experience as a rule for everyone to follow your experience. I am sorry you had to go through that.
He saw other documentaries where the murderer didn’t cry while interrogation and it got pointed out. So he thought by himself: I will really REALLY cry!!!
@@pixi2209 Same thought on that part of the argument. I don't set my alarm daily. My phone is set to always go off at "x" time for M-F and a different time on the weekend.
@@KatieBellinoThey could’ve looked into her phone and seen that it was actually set that day and not a routine alarm. Investigators aren’t morons, and they look into these details.
Funny how everyone who knee her before thought she was always happy but everyone on his side thinks she is timid and quiet. Says a lot about how he affected her
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult What a load of rubbish, you don't know what happened and the case is one of them, where there will be a ton of appeals. It's about time Americans stopped doing everything off emotion and how people act, to actual evidence, which is very little proof here.
Gunshot residue incompetence, also coroner "just get over with" ... "nice" investigation. But every time husband (or wife) has affair (online or not) there has to be more serious investigation after somebody ends up dead. Missing forensics (GSR) is absolutely mindboggling.
It's not vanity that makes women less likely to die by suicide - it's a desire to not traumatize the loved ones who will find them or leave behind a horrific mess.
@Annie497 Some people do want to hurt those they leave behind too, though. And less lethal methods allow more possibility for "error", and also can be slower leaving time to reconsider.
The detective is wrong- women less often try to end their lives with gunshots not because of “looks” but because they don’t want to leave behind a big mess for someone else to clean up.
@@meghanmisaliarBecause not all women who plan su!c!de by gunshot end up going through with it - or are successful at it. Some live to tell their story.
A few things As a woman….if you found out about infidelity that week or night you would not be sleeping in the same bed. Couch or another room. Also setting up the candy for the next day, as a woman …..or mother, shows …..life is going on. He lied completely…….. About the insurance, about his time overseas with military, etc etc. And let’s not forget…..she was right handed. And his lawyer said …he was a Christian man with great morals! Yeah right! The girl with bunny ears disproves that. He is where he is…and got what he deserved.
Let alone sleeping in the same bed NAKED! This is definitely one of those cases where the large amount of circumstantial evidence painted a VERY clear picture of what happened...
A lot. Sometimes people turn the blind eye if someone is Christian and a “family person”. I’m 37 years old and I was born in a very fundamentalist church and saw my fare share of people being extra generous to mostly males being slimy/ espousing criminal behavior.
Studies have shown one of the few things all these abusive men have in common is an attraction to/belief in so-called 'traditional' roles, not all gravitate to religion, but it's easy to see how, especially extreme fundamentalist religions, will have more than their fair share of these abusive monsters.
he wasn’t “calmly chatting” they played 3 seconds of a conversation that nobody knows when it happened. this is a SHOW made to be entertaining. The cop asked him a question and he answered it without thinking. you don’t know what you would do if your wife took her life. and if you’re arrogant enough to think you do have that answer i hope you’re never proven wrong.
When the sergeant tells him she's dead he asks "Are you sure?" twice. Blows (pun intended) the cash in 8mths?! He can get all the warmth and comfort in jail! Bless her aunt & uncle for buying the house she intended as a pet care facility.
The defense lawyer really wants us to believe the mother-in-law saying Kirsten being emotionless as opposed to her own family saying she's joyful and always smiling? Maybe they were just never close or she just hated the mother-in-law lol
That's crazy talk. Everyone always gets along amazingly with their in-laws. I think I sound just as convincing as the defense attorney. I could do her job, if I was heartless. 🤔
Yeah,I wouldn't believe anything his Mother said. First of all she will say anything to protect her son,and agreed,they probably didn't get along all that great
Not just the detective who should have had Colbys hands tested for for gunshot residue, the Coroner should have tested her hands for gun shot residue before saying its a suicide. These guys are dinosaurs . Do your job, procedure. Just testing for gun shot residue would have helped the prosecution or something
He said he picked up the gun because he considered killing himself for a second. Even if they had found his fingerprints on the gun or found GSR on his hands, he already had an excuse in place.
Googling about the life insurance days before? Then lying to the police about how he will get life insurance from her death. Trying to say SHE was googling it on his phone when she was actually working at the time! And of course he blows through the money at record speed. Also that snapchat girl needs to think twice about engaging with randos from the internet or she is going to end up on the next episode.
Yep. I always find it susoect when someone says they don’t know about their spouse’s life insurance. Of course he knows, especially when it is covered because of his military service.
Shock, maybe. Shock and grief can do some crazy a$$ things to your mind or make you act differently. He may be guilty IDK I just know my actions when my dad was dying and did die, were strange, regrettable and erratic.
He lied about his time in service, something that could easily be researched yet he did it anyway. He thinks he could get away with lying because people always believed him.
Yes they do. I can't tell you how many times I've seen "tHaT's NoT hOw InNoCeNt PeOpLe AcT" only for the person to actually be innocent. Anyone who thinks they can judge someone by behavior is always going to be proved wrong
I’m only a few minutes in with no clue as to whether Colby is guilty or not. But, this I know: if a suspect cries, people view it as fake, lack of tears is viewed as callous and uncaring. Honestly, IMO, their state immediately after the incident is the least likely indicator of guilt or innocence. When innocent, tears are naturally going to flow; when guilty, the person also has multiple reasons for legitimate tears.
Agreed and he really took a beating from Erin Moriarty at 38:36 with what he did not consider like the size of the gun. I'm not sure about the other non science stuff like "searches on insurance" and "an online affair". The coroner is a scientist so why would the police say "hey Doc this clown was having an affair or he made a ton of dough on insurance". That could change the coroners objectivity. It was stupid to not consider the size of the gun.
why would he do that tho ? if he genuinely believed it was a suicide why would he wait ? a coroner doesn’t factor in what the investigators find out into their report. it’s completely based on the body and nothing else. that’s why it’s the office of the medical examiner.. not the Medical/Crime Investigation Examiner.
A coroner isn’t even a medical doctor in many cases, he/she is typically an elected official. Whereas A medical examiner is a board certified forensic pathologist or a degree in another medical specialty. I also thought if it was a violent, unexpected, or suspicious death a coroner attended the scene, but the person was autopsied by a ME. It’s weird Kristin’s case wasn’t handled by a ME.
I know it's a lawyers job to protect their client, but damn...considering her excuses for this man are "bad timing" and "he doesn't remember" she damn well knows he's guilty and still has the audacity to claim that Kristen took her own life multiple times. Listening to her talk left me feeling disgusted every time. Good on the police for pursuing an investigation when they realized something was off too!
You can put up a defense for your client without using a bunch of unbelievable, offensive excuses. The more of those you use, the less credible your argument is and the less a jury will believe you. Save the excuses for core issues. For the other issues (like buying a sex doll with insurance money or having an on line affair) remind the jury that the defendant may do things they don’t like/agree with but that does not mean he killed his wife.
About 1200 women are murdered every year as a result of domestic violence. As many children are murdered as well. And about 125 law enforcement officers are killed in the line of duty investigating this horrid crime. Educating the public as early as grammar school is vital to helping people recognize the signs of domestic violence.
I agree, it should be taught because our school teachers aren't overwhelmed enough already...it is not the school system's job to correct fix all of the world's social issues...that is the job of the parent! Parents( should) know their children, they need to step up...parents are the child's teacher for LIFE...ABOUT LIFE.
@@DoreenPagnotto I'm not saying teachers need to do this, but Domestic Violence organizations, local shelters, etc. Of course it's the job of the parent - but given that most parents are unqualified to be parents (mine certainly were not qualified), couldn't we give kids a leg up? School always felt like a safe place for me growing up - why not use that?
@@DoreenPagnotto It is far more likely that female children will go on to be victims of abuse if their mother was in an abusive relationship. Boys are a little more complex depending no the nature of the abuse, some become abusers, others abuse substances, so become campaigners against abuse (as do some females). But whatever way you look at it, the children most in need of the education are the ones least likely to get it. That goes for all sorts of bad values and anti-social behaviour. The state needs to break the chain and educate children from a young age how to be good people.
@@jerraddennis2225I guess he didn’t see her emotional scars from his controlling behavior. 🙄🙄 Holy Hell, you do realize not all abuse can be seen or leaves bruises, right?? This is why she needed a medical examiner to investigate her death instead of just the county coroner. Also coroners are elected officials, many of whom don’t even have a medical degree whereas a medical examiner is a board certified forensic pathologist. This man has probably botched multiple death investigations.
Yes, Daniella, didn’t you know a controlling husband/wife is obviously not spousal batterer. lol Apparently he forgot not all abuse leaves visible bruises I’m not a doctor, but he obviously didn’t see any emotional or mental bruising either 🙄🤯🙄
I'm saddened that the coroner believed it was a suicide and didn't even check for gun residue. He doesn't take his job seriously. It hinders the investigation because of his pride.
Actually, if you watched the whole episode you'd know that the investigators didn't properly relay the circumstances surrounding the death to the coroner.
@@harlieschmidt5945 apparently he didn’t ask either. Just wrote her off and signed his name. In my profession, if I don’t have the information I need, I’m expected to request that information. And my job doesn’t have anywhere near the impact that his does. While he was being professionally negligent, then after the information was brought to him, too egotistical to change the cause of death even to undetermined, the husband could very well have killed again.
I worked with a private investigator (my spouse) for 10 years, and anytime I heard “I’m a Christian” or “I’m not gonna lie to you, blah blah blah,” my trust went way down. Best one tho, was when a guy in jail said “there’s no way they could identify me! I had a sock hat over my face!” Really? That’s what you want us to tell the DA? Really?
One thing all these cases have in common is that the victims are killed by what they tend to fear most, whether it be guns, strangulation/any form of suffocation, being assaulted, being poisoned, etc. Any other true crime fan noticing that pattern?
I lived about 2 blocks down when this happened, you can actually see our house from those sky b-roll shots. Remember hearing a shot going off that night and discussing if it was just a car backfire or something, then the next morning we were shocked.
If shes got the body for it, I dont think it would cross her mind , also in a moment of desperation and hurt you aren't thinking of being vain or modest etc. I still think he did it though
I always think it's hilarious when a defence attorney/lawyer is giving an interview proclaiming the innocence of their client, like you're being paid to believe their innocent.... Why on earth would I put any stock in that?!
You would think that in ANY suicide case with a firearm that all people present would be tested for gunshot residue. Get a preliminary story from everyone on the scene and then test for residue so people cannot explain it away when they do find residue.
he was a coroner, not a medical examiner. there’s a difference. coroners have experience in their fields (bodies). medical examiners have that on top of medical degrees and licenses to practice medicine.
Well its like this. The man calls 911 and reports his wife sh##t herself next to him in bed. That pretty well gives the coroner 2 choices: cause of death self inflicted or the husband who is a blubbering mess and a devout church going Christian the one who did it. He was present so no 3rd party intruder. I can see not allowing for any present unusual visible trauma to the body a verdict of suicide by firearm. The only other would be the husband did it essentially. Not enough to go out on a limb.on a death certificate which must be signed off in a timely matter.
Not going to lie: I was buying it (some people sound fake when they're crying)..... Aaaaand then we heard about him texting his girlfriend from the cop shop 🙄🤦🏾♀️
I love when people think they got away with it and get arrested later on . And the way he says "sure" as they arrest him. If he didnt do it he'd be shocked.
I can imagine a situation where the paramedics were taking forever, so the Deputy started talking about how long they were taking & started a conversation with the guy. It doesn't mean he isn't guilty, I believe he is. I just think that he, ofc, couldn't be weeping over his wife in that moment bc u know the medics had him escorted out & it seems like the Deputy was making small-talk🤷♀️
The defense attorney fails to realize that victims families never let go and or forget things about their loved ones that they’ve lost. Saying two years is a long time to go back and talk to them is irrelevant and tasteless 😒
My brother passed away 7 years ago yesterday and it still feels like yesterday that he passed. It's almost like time doesn't move forward when u think of ur loved ones.
Kristen Trickle was a lovely soul, the perp a repellent scungilli. A heartfelt shout out to Kristen's family, Aaron Cunningham, J.B. Berkholder, Robert Anderson, Ashley Christensen, and finally the judge Glenn Braun, all of whom played a role in insuring that this cold blooded killer will spend the rest of his days where he belongs. And, of course, as always, thanks to Erin Moriarty.
The detective in this case is an awesome man of God and a personal friend. As for the murderer, Jesus warned… “When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and finding none it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house swept and put in order. Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there. And the last state of that person is worse than the first.” Luke 11:24-26
Being a “good Christian” man is code for - I think I’m superior to my wife and she’s supposed to do what I say. It is no indication at all of moral character!!
The size/placement of the gun seems unrealistic, his distress lacks credibility, his online affair and his Internet search pretty much sums up his blatant guilt.
Let's not forget him trying to make out like he was some military special ops guy to the police in the hours after his wife's death. That might not seem directly relevant but it speaks volumes in relation to his mentality.
the second he said he "thought about putting the gun to my head and killing myself" I knew he killed her. There is NO way you would even think that for a second if your spouse shot themselves, you would call 911 and start CPR. He rehearsed that line thinking it sounded like something someone devastated would say, but it didn't match the situation at all.
And yet there is someone else who commented that she lost her husband the same way and was so devastated she contemplated the same thing. None of these emotional responses indicate guilt or innocence. It's supposed to be evidence driven. His words saying he put the gun back down on her and his searches on the life insurance and him lying about her doing it/military lies are the indicators of guilt that I would consider convicting him for but this is not a slam dunk case.
@@joep3475 you've completely missed the point, and showed your gutter thinking in the same breath. The well trained Professional can deduce a great deal of information and create a reasonably accurate account of the mental state the deceased individual and their spouse from the multiple sources which were utilised. For trained Professionals it's also actually quite easy to elicit a solid impression of an individual from one meeting, when we ask them specific questions and listen thoughtfully to their responses.
The only thing I hate is when people say they know someone would never do a particular thing or assume they know that person inside and out. It's almost an insult to say that. You never truly know fully what's in someones heart or mind. You never truly know what inner turmoil or demons a person might have going on. To say you KNOW someone would never commit suicide is never true. You don't know.
I was laughing out loud too. I thought about buying a fashion/dress doll once (some 40 years ago). At the time that was half for fun so i could point to it and say that was my wife. But i can understand you are so lonely you think of such options. Not for sex, but to have something there that resembles a person. That you can say hi to or something. But in this case, it sounds so bad, as the plastic sex thing was for in bed and payed for by the money he got from the life insurance on the wife he killed. Thats very yucky.
I saw a thing that said "women are the only species that have to mate w their only natural predator" 😔💔 so yeah, they ain't worth the risk much for me 🤣
Religion is just easy to manipulate. The wholesome things usually are. It's the same reason why so many teachers are pedos and so many Dr's are influenced by government funding as opposed to the wellbeing of their patients.
Hi I am not sure exactly what you are saying. You use the words “devoted Christian. That should be a guarantee of devotion. And then say “total history aligns with this”. I think you are saying it doesn’t. I may be misunderstanding you. You believe Christianity shows the opposite. I am sorry, if I am understanding you correctly that history shows the opposite of being devoted. I may be misunderstanding you. If your experience has been the opposite of experiencing devotion, I am truly truly sorry. For me I had the opposite experience. I was the kid everyone picked on. Everyone but one person. She was a Christian. She was the most popular girl in the school. She risked her popularity by defending me. She gave me hope in my hopeless world. I didn’t know what a Christian was but I determined to become a Christian because of her. There is a wonderful book out there called WHO IS THIS MAN. It goes through history and shows what a dog eat dog world it was. It shows how the world was changed for the better because of people following the teachings of Christ. I am so sorry if this has not been your experience. That really upsets me. I wish you had my experience of being brought hope to my hopeless world.
@@shelteredsparrow2736No clue why you think OP is talking about personal experience. Those of us who’ve watched a lot of true crime over the years lost count of all the devoted Christian killers a long, long time ago
@@EllenLeah-pv2yw Thing is, people these days just believe someone if they say they're a Christian and that's just not the case, you have to look at how they live their life not just by what they say.
@@TamiTribianni The measure of genuineness of a Christian is not how good they are. According to the Bible, a well-behaved Christian, a badly-behaved Christian, and a non-Christian are all on equal moral footing, the only difference being that a true Christian recognizes that they are inherently proud and selfish, and therefore surrenders their life to Jesus Christ. For it is only the transforming power of Jesus that can ultimately make a person good. ".....he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life." "So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified." These words are directly from the Bible. A person eithers believes them, or they don't.
How was he a devoted Christian when he was talking to another woman while being married. Thats not devoted. His lawyer needs to mark that off her list of why she believes him.
I wouldn’t kms, but if I did, there’s absolutely NO WAY I’d do it undressed. I can’t think of how any woman would do that. We just aren’t typically that way.
@@Princesslaya90 I KNOW it's just ppl being dramatic. Ppl who love the attention and pity. And I have had panic attacks too. Most ppl have. It's a normal thing. THATS my point!
Why did no one check for gun residue?! So frustrating, they could have checked. Could have searched the house to see if he cleaned up after. So darn frustrating. They were outside talking about video games instead of looking around. RIP sweet angel.
Dude blew through the life insurance in less than a year. And he lied. And he had a side chick, a video game one 😂. Plus he was underemployed, lazy. Guilty as sin. Hopefully he can pay the life insurance back over the next 50 years with his prison job.
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The only thing I find odd is the comment on the alarm. If someone works at the same time every day, it’s not hard to create an alarm that goes off every day. Doesn’t mention that when they check the alarm, it was one that goes off every day or was created for just that day. The rest of it is pretty obvious. The guy seemed off during the interrogation. JMO.
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@@damienjstepick Just trying to impress with his fake crying.
@@3BK235Y they always try fake crying… why?
So nobody tested the husband for gunshot residue? I thought this was standard operating procedure in cases like these...
Blows my mind when they don’t do that. I mean hello!
@@cholieandresa seriously, could've had a slam dunk case, instead leaves us with many questions.
He said he picked up the gun because he considered killing himself for a second. Even if they had found his fingerprints on the gun or found GSR on his hands, he already had an excuse in place.
Hays, Kansas population 21,000 😆
@@hrmtty His prints on the gun and GSR are two seperate things. You can't explain GSR on your hands if you didn't shoot the gun.
“He cares about his spiritual life. He’s a devoted Christian.” I am so utterly sick and tired of this being a blanket defense that someone who is spiritual or religious is automatically a good person.
I thought that was an odd comment as well. I mean, most prisoners in the US are Christians too, I would think. How does that make someone less likely to be guilty? 😂
He's anything but a devoted Christian.
You can be spiritual demon possessed. By the devil
But he is not a Christian period
True that !! Dismissing responsibility & accountability to another entity seems the norm in USA anymore! godLives- jebusForgives- & theDevil madeMe doIt- Repent, Repeat - What were the christian crusades to begin with? Couldnt be more vicious than that !
Precisely! I was raised in evangelical chri$tianity, therefore when I hear those words, they immediately cause me to deem them more suspicious!
Never tell a controlling narcissist you are leaving him. And don't act increasingly assertive. Just get a few ducks in order, act the same, and go.
Most dangerous time in a woman's life is when she makes a plan to leave an abusive, controlling partner.
A friend of my sister did that. Then he killed her mother, her and then himself.
Exactly. When I left I did so in a way that seemed spur of the moment to my abuser. He was blindsided, but I was safe because of that. In reality I’d been planning for months.
@@AnonForever70Glad you're safe!
Amen!
So sad that the deceased had a rough childhood, only to fall prey to another abusive human being. Hoping she is surrounded by angels in heaven - she deserves nothing less.
Amen 🙏
The most daming evidence is Kristen was starting to take control of her life while in a controlling marriage. That is the most dangerous time with a mentally abusive partner.
Yup she was trying to leave
It's true.
The default in heterosexual relationships is that the female is the controlling partner. Usually everything has to be done on her terms/texts need to be responded to quickly etc etc. We're okay as a society with that because we're a gynocentric society. If it's the man in control however and the female starts asserting herself then he's almost certainly guilty of mental abuse.
So so true
There was no abuse.
Did you even watch the documentary? Abuse doesn’t always have to be physical, it can come in the form of them ruining your self esteem, controlling you whereabouts and telling you what to do. The restraints don't always have to be physical.
He cried so fake during the interrogation. But he calmly chatted about video games with the responding officer, even though he 'just found' his wife dead. Creepy man.
Right😂😭it sounded so fake. Crying like a child who wants attention.
@@TanieceGray 😉 Exactly! It's so easy for us mothers to spot fake crying! 😆
exactly!!!
Murdering man!!
He did, but have u ever had paramedics at ur house? It takes a long time. The police started the conversation. That tells me how long it was taking. Maybe they did it to entrap him? We can't be cool with that. What if he's innocent? Or the next person is? I think he did it but it's wild how that's the focus instead of WHY the COP asked him what he played. Edit: As someone whose mom used to live just an hour away from Hays, I DO commend these cops on their digital detection.👏👏👏
biggest predictor of homicide by a partner is not how violent the partner is, but how controlling.
Well said
The biggest predictor is having strangled and or stalked their partner. All narcissists are controlling
Aaron Cunningham 21:18 - Assistant County attorney looks like a fattened up Leonardo DiCaprio ! LOL.
Yes! It's slow and unusual.He got me for 48Gs!! And I lived.
@@Team33Team33 Hahahaha!
As soon as the 911 call started, one minute in, I was like, “oh, there’s the killer.” Reminds me of a little kid crying when they’ve done something they shouldn’t.
Fake and forced. So your mommy thinks you’re sad and won’t be mean about what you broke/lied about/stole…
People like you are so sad to me because you don't understand that everyone is different and will respond to terrible situations differently. I've called 911 a few times in my life and you'd label me a murderer after hearing those calls.
True crime media has made people think they're a lot more intuitive than they are. You included.
@@denisehagwood4542 Cool. Have a nice day.
Ubiquitous totally fake crying 101= GUILTY
5 mins in and the guys‘ crying gets to my nerves, so forced and fake
You spoke my mind
I was not going to read the comments so I wouldn't read everything that happened in the story but i heard him fake crying and was like "nevermind, i know what happened"
I can't say what i think or it will get deleted
Sounds genuine to me
Yes. You pretty much know 99% of the time when someone is faking tears and emotion.
bad acting I guess ^^ good guys dont cry ♥
This dude is such a liar…he lied about his military service, lied about the life insurance, lied about the online chic…
Too bad he didn't lie about owning those pants😅
He's cut from the same cloth that he mother is cut from. As she likely lives to lie, control and manipulate, as well. When she said that she couldn't read Christian, I had to role my eyes. As only manipulators and control freaks will aim to read and dissect others. As they're not use to forming real and genuine unions. Their approach usually has to do with what they can get, how they can use and benefit whomever. She ain't fooling a soul!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@ironmaven1760
Exactly. Also that coroner is a complete fool. "Well, I just took the husband's statement at face value." Yeah, ok Bud, time for your nap now.
Apparently you don't own pajamas. Duhhhhhhhhh
"Would she still be here had I been a better husband?"
Yes. Killing her makes him a TERRIBLE husband.
😂😂😂
LOL great point 😄
Yeah..
@@Nikki2024-1 *Love your username.* Just sayin'...
Why wasn't he a better Christian???
It’s absolutely heartbreaking when they talk about the little place she identified for her business. 😢
😭😭😭😭😭😭
As someone who dresses modestly and prides in that, i absolutely agree.
If i were going to off myself, id be dressed. So thats certainly a huge red flag.
If you ever find me dead and naked, someone took me out. Period.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
I sleep naked but I dress fairly modestly in public. I can guarantee if I knew someone would have to find my body I wouldn’t want to be found naked. So I’m with you there.
Yes, that's one of the red flags, women very rarely, just about flat-out never commit suicide nude. There was a case wherein a woman's husband said she shot herself after coming out of the shower (if memory serves), nude, and this husband got away with it, sickening.
U@@monicarenee7949bbbnjkl
Totally agree. Stood out to me.
"He was a devoted Christian" - So what, he was also a murderer. I really hate it when they say things like that, as though religious people don't commit crimes.
What exactly makes a person “religious” anyway? To me that’s a few red flags 🚩🚩🚩
Judas was a disciple! So...
The Jewish people of Jesus day were very "religious ", they were still responsible for his death. It's the individual. " Religion " is used for a variety of crimes, for, or against, a religion.
I didn’t come to save the righteous. I came to save the sinner.
Jesus
Defense attorney's are paid to make up a defense. I could not be a defense attorney to someone who I thought was guilty.
Thank you Judge for giving him life & no parole for 50 yrs.
Some time ago I read a flyer for battered and abused women and I always took that advice seriously because it's sound advice.
1. Never tell an abuse that you're leaving. Gather your documents and a few clothes and leave. You can take the rest later with a police escort.
2. the three weeks (aprox.) after leaving an abusive partner is the most dangerous time of your life. Leave to a place you know he's not going to look for you . Not your parents's house, not your friend's house that he know of. Lay low for at least three weeks after. Don't go to places where you routinely go to. It's not fair that you have to give up on yet more things, but it's better to be alive than sorry.
3. Gather evidence. Make a folder with photos if you have any, texts, theats, damanges if he damaneged your property in any way. The first response in a situation like this is to block, change your number, etc. but if you can still keep your old number and record the threatening texts etc and angry voice mails he sends you, that would be awesome. Taht will help you get a restraining order in place. You can even leave that phone number with someone you trust and get a second phone number for your personal use.
And this is my personal addition, turn off your location on all social media apps, and even on your phone all together. If you could get off social media for a while that would be in your interest to not give your location or schedule away.
Stay safe girls!
Thank you for taking the time to write this all out. Fantastic advice 👍🏻
And some boys!
You can also go to a women’s shelter they are not allowed to come near you and they have everything you need food companionship from w0men going through the same things
Her aunt needs to work on her lisp with the letter S yikes😮
Good advice
The instant he said he picked up the gun, I knew that was him covering his tracks if they found his fingerprints on the gun
Nah. It would be normal if his prints were on it. Ofc if its blood prints, then he touched it afterwards. But that can also happen.
Its odd that he placed the gun back on her though. Thats not something you'd likely do. But not strong evidence, or evidence at all. Its just one in a number of things thats uncommon and may raise suspicion. But its not evidence.
@@StofStuiverYou’re dense. It’s evidence he handled the gun.
The police should have immediately tested their hands for gunshot residue at the scene to determine who pulled the trigger.
Yup, and he said it right away, establishing innocence and offering info he wasn't asked for at the time.
You can fake fingerprints but not GSR. Both their hands should've been tested for GSR and that would've told the whole story. Either she had it or not.
For the last time, being a devout Christian (or very religious) dosen't make you pure and innocent. His defence lawyer is delusional!
100% agree. My soon to be ex-wife of 28yrs is a supposed Christian and bailed on our marriage. She is a FAKE.
Delusional or merely corrupt.
i agree.
People can put on a mask and lie about who and what they really are to make people believe they are a good person.
Colby is a cheesehead!
The minute a 911 call begins with a story instead of "help" and address of the emergency, the likelihood of guilt skyrockets.
That’s a great point.
I don’t know if I agree with this whatsoever. I’ve heard plenty of 911 calls during which the caller begins with what’s happened / happening. People react in incredibly different ways to traumatic events. Some cannot even get out any words. I can see what you mean if the caller goes into a detailed story that states their alibi & tries to make themselves seem totally not part of whatever happened, including immediately blaming someone else. Nevertheless, let’s say there was a robbery the wife was killed while the husband was out (having come home to discover the body). It wouldn’t be surprising if the husband (the caller) began with, “It seems like there’s been a break-in or robbery at my home & my wife is dead.” Something else- some people act surprisingly calm in the face of a traumatic event, like discovering a violent death. It’s likely because shock has set in, & they shut down, relaying their observations in acute & calm detail. We expect people to cry & scream “help,” but that’s just not always true. As I’ve shown, there are many reasons why your statement isn’t necessarily correct; it’s far too complex & people react far too individually to make any assured comprehensive judgment.
The police consider it a huge red flag when a 911 caller offers up theories of what happened.
Every single time ,without fail. I've heard a ton of 911 calls and it's always that way .
That's a darn brilliant point. 🔥
I too was *abandoned* by my bio mom when I was 2 weeks old & I *NEVER ONCE* have thought about
*”taking myself out”* so to speak.
That lawyer using that was slimy and low
Ok, well that's only your experience. That doesn't mean that everyone is like you. You can't generalize everyone's experience based on your own.
I think he killed her, but just saying you can't use your own experience as a rule for everyone to follow your experience.
I am sorry you had to go through that.
Yeah some defense attorneys go too far.
I love Erin Moriarty. She has such a gentle, yet impermeable strength, and excellent eye contact, no matter what question she is asking.
she's the BEST!
She's one of my favorites
I love how she’s able to ask such controversial questions without offending anyone.
She’s a really good host of 48 hours
I absolutely love her. She is so professional, and she has such a graceful way about her.
I can’t stand to hear him pretending to cry. Sickening
Sounds like a hysterical laugh at times to me
agreed. Maybe initially but, in interrogation he tried too hard to be convincing
Remember he's on the lmao Worship team.....
Phoney baloney cry .
He saw other documentaries where the murderer didn’t cry while interrogation and it got pointed out. So he thought by himself: I will really REALLY cry!!!
I thought the same thing.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 go away !
This case is not funny, but your comment 🤣
This story and her love for her aunt, uncle & cousin is very touching..
Her phone was plugged in also. Why plug it in and worry about charging your phone if you're fixing to off yourself?
Yes, but probably he didn't set alarm than. She had this alarm permanently, every day.
Yeah, and she supposedly gets up to go get the gun, lies back down and shoots herself next to her sleeping husband. Such BS.
@@pixi2209 Same thought on that part of the argument. I don't set my alarm daily. My phone is set to always go off at "x" time for M-F and a different time on the weekend.
Very good point...
@@KatieBellinoThey could’ve looked into her phone and seen that it was actually set that day and not a routine alarm. Investigators aren’t morons, and they look into these details.
The defense attorneys on these shows always say "I don't believe he did it." I think they feel they have to.
I mean, they have to say that lol. You can't defend a client and say ''yeah, he's guilty, but find him innocent, please''.
Yes they have to do that. I’m sure some of them don’t believe that the client is innocent
the defense lawyers are actors who passed the bar exam․ 😁
there's a very simple reason they make that argument and i'll quote John Gage on this one.............. because they were paid to!
They always sound the same and so annoying all the time
Funny how everyone who knee her before thought she was always happy but everyone on his side thinks she is timid and quiet. Says a lot about how he affected her
You act different around certain people, people she grew up with and her mom in law.. who knows about that why she wasn’t comfortable with her MIL
First he isolated her, then the psychological abuse began. I'm sure his mother happily joined in, too bad she didn't just leave
“Everyone” Two cousins who are completely unreliable
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult”I’m sure his mom joined” I mean that’s a completely baseless statement
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult What a load of rubbish, you don't know what happened and the case is one of them, where there will be a ton of appeals. It's about time Americans stopped doing everything off emotion and how people act, to actual evidence, which is very little proof here.
Gunshot residue incompetence, also coroner "just get over with" ... "nice" investigation. But every time husband (or wife) has affair (online or not) there has to be more serious investigation after somebody ends up dead. Missing forensics (GSR) is absolutely mindboggling.
It's not vanity that makes women less likely to die by suicide - it's a desire to not traumatize the loved ones who will find them or leave behind a horrific mess.
Ah so you know more than a professional? Damn they missed out hiring you for the case!😂
@Annie497If that were 💯 true I don’t think suicide notes would be a thing.
@Annie497 Some people do want to hurt those they leave behind too, though. And less lethal methods allow more possibility for "error", and also can be slower leaving time to reconsider.
I agree. Women in general are more likely to care about the mental image their death would leave for others.
@@MariaD-bn5bv if you think police understand human psychology, that's hilarious
The detective is wrong- women less often try to end their lives with gunshots not because of “looks” but because they don’t want to leave behind a big mess for someone else to clean up.
??? How would you know that??
@@meghanmisaliarBecause not all women who plan su!c!de by gunshot end up going through with it - or are successful at it. Some live to tell their story.
That is true. BINGO!
@meghanmisaliar from interviews with survivors and diaries of those who did not survive
I've heard that too . .but most women choose other choices than shooting themselves in the face or head.. they choose other ways such as overdose...
A few things
As a woman….if you found out about infidelity that week or night you would not be sleeping in the same bed. Couch or another room. Also setting up the candy for the next day, as a woman …..or mother, shows …..life is going on.
He lied completely……..
About the insurance, about his time overseas with military, etc etc.
And let’s not forget…..she was right handed.
And his lawyer said …he was a Christian man with great morals! Yeah right! The girl with bunny ears disproves that.
He is where he is…and got what he deserved.
Let alone sleeping in the same bed NAKED! This is definitely one of those cases where the large amount of circumstantial evidence painted a VERY clear picture of what happened...
That's like using "he labels himself a Not-Murderer! Therefore he's not one!" Lawyer would be laughed out of the room or held in contempt.
You should be a detective
You can feel how much she was and still is loved by how her family speaks about her. It is so sad.
People living in the city of Hays should be proud of these hard-working cops and prosecutors.
As a lifelong Hays resident, I am! They did a marvelous job!
Detectives don't get enough praise. They are heroes!
I agree, but the police and/or coroner should have tested their hands for gunshot residue to determine who pulled the trigger.
Absolutely!!! The fact that the Coroner ruled it as suicide didn't stop them further investigating. Well done.
When cops are so often inept and uncaring, these guys really are standouts. Very commendable!! We need more folks like this!
Just how many murderers hide behind “Christian” devotion?
A lot. Sometimes people turn the blind eye if someone is Christian and a “family person”. I’m 37 years old and I was born in a very fundamentalist church and saw my fare share of people being extra generous to mostly males being slimy/ espousing criminal behavior.
Studies have shown one of the few things all these abusive men have in common is an attraction to/belief in so-called 'traditional' roles, not all gravitate to religion, but it's easy to see how, especially extreme fundamentalist religions, will have more than their fair share of these abusive monsters.
Dennis Rader aka BTK is a good example, he was president of his church when he was busted in 2004 for murdering and torturing little boys.
*gasps in Lori Vallow Daybell*
Also Ruby Franke, and Jodi Hildebrandt @@EmSpacebird
That crying was melodramatic, don't believe one bit to that. Or maybe these shows have made me far too cynical.
I feel the same way....Crying was a fake.
No - you’re right!
Nope, he is faking.
You're smart
Yeah I think cynical is a big thing. I try not to judge anymore. People grieve differently
If my wife took her own life I wouldn’t be able to think or talk and definitely wouldn’t be calm chatting about video games.
he wasn’t “calmly chatting” they played 3 seconds of a conversation that nobody knows when it happened. this is a SHOW made to be entertaining. The cop asked him a question and he answered it without thinking.
you don’t know what you would do if your wife took her life. and if you’re arrogant enough to think you do have that answer i hope you’re never proven wrong.
When the sergeant tells him she's dead he asks "Are you sure?" twice. Blows (pun intended) the cash in 8mths?! He can get all the warmth and comfort in jail! Bless her aunt & uncle for buying the house she intended as a pet care facility.
I didn't hear them say they bought it, only that they drive by it and named it.
Yeah he'll get plenty of warmth in prison, but I doubt he'll get comfort lol
The defense lawyer really wants us to believe the mother-in-law saying Kirsten being emotionless as opposed to her own family saying she's joyful and always smiling? Maybe they were just never close or she just hated the mother-in-law lol
Or could see right through her. Something it seemed like it took time for her to do with that male she was married to.
you did not get her point at all
Or her MIL hated her, which is pretty standard, especially when you have what clearly is a mummy’s boy.
That's crazy talk. Everyone always gets along amazingly with their in-laws.
I think I sound just as convincing as the defense attorney. I could do her job, if I was heartless. 🤔
Yeah,I wouldn't believe anything his Mother said. First of all she will say anything to protect her son,and agreed,they probably didn't get along all that great
Not just the detective who should have had Colbys hands tested for for gunshot residue, the Coroner should have tested her hands for gun shot residue before saying its a suicide. These guys are dinosaurs . Do your job, procedure. Just testing for gun shot residue would have helped the prosecution or something
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He said he picked up the gun because he considered killing himself for a second. Even if they had found his fingerprints on the gun or found GSR on his hands, he already had an excuse in place.
@@hrmttythats why the post mention to test her hands too…….
You can always tell who is and isn't passionate about what they do.
@@ThienLe-dr4nr did you not comprehend what @hrmtty said?
You never ask a defence lawyer whether her/his client is guilty or not.
Googling about the life insurance days before? Then lying to the police about how he will get life insurance from her death. Trying to say SHE was googling it on his phone when she was actually working at the time! And of course he blows through the money at record speed. Also that snapchat girl needs to think twice about engaging with randos from the internet or she is going to end up on the next episode.
Yes, this was the only part of the case that I found sus and would consider a guilty verdict on. I don't know if it's strong enough to convict though
Yep. I always find it susoect when someone says they don’t know about their spouse’s life insurance. Of course he knows, especially when it is covered because of his military service.
Studies have proven, *leaving* an abusive partner is the *most dangerous* time. Leave...in...stealth. Be safe everyone. Be aware. 🕊
They won't listen to your advice
That includes abusive women as well. 😉
@@FerroEquus-262 obvi
Obvi, but statistically more woman are killed by their partners than men are.
When the police said she had died, his response was, "are you sure."
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Shock, maybe. Shock and grief can do some crazy a$$ things to your mind or make you act differently. He may be guilty IDK I just know my actions when my dad was dying and did die, were strange, regrettable and erratic.
@@janelle009 right, personally I don't believe there was enough evidence for him to have been found guilty.
"Are you sure? Are you sure?" The meaning is, "Are you sure? I hope you are, because if she survives, she'll testify against me."
@@janelle009 We know that in this case nothing of what you said is the explanation. He was guilty. He killed his wife.
He lied about his time in service, something that could easily be researched yet he did it anyway. He thinks he could get away with lying because people always believed him.
The fact that this man went and bought a sex doll after killing his wife. Disgusting.
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I’m a guy and yeah… that’s a no go if you are a real man 😂
Why? That’s what his wife was!
The fact that he used HER LIFE INSURANCE to buy it...even more gross!
Judge not lest ye be judged. Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone. What do you do in your sex life, watch cute cat videos?
He was whining throughout the entire police interview. He's trying to put on an act. Innocent people don't do that.
Yep. Usually the jury is not supposed to consider that type of evidence but it's difficult to ignore how poorly he imitated a crying person.
My thoughts exactly.
Yes they do. I can't tell you how many times I've seen "tHaT's NoT hOw InNoCeNt PeOpLe AcT" only for the person to actually be innocent. Anyone who thinks they can judge someone by behavior is always going to be proved wrong
I’m only a few minutes in with no clue as to whether Colby is guilty or not. But, this I know: if a suspect cries, people view it as fake, lack of tears is viewed as callous and uncaring. Honestly, IMO, their state immediately after the incident is the least likely indicator of guilt or innocence. When innocent, tears are naturally going to flow; when guilty, the person also has multiple reasons for legitimate tears.
Absolutes are rarely true, though. Or do you know all innocent people and how they cry?
Attorney looked like " If Leonardo di Caprio and Jack Black had a son." 😅
😂😂😂😂
My thoughts too... Leonardo the bigger version ... oops
Lmao you got me dead thats funny fr 😂
@@nor_j Have you seen Leo lately?
omg I can see it hahahahha
Coroner needs to retire yesterday. What a fool.
Old School incompetency
Coroner should’ve ruled ‘Undetermined’ for at least the time a solid investigation would take.
Agreed and he really took a beating from Erin Moriarty at 38:36 with what he did not consider like the size of the gun. I'm not sure about the other non science stuff like "searches on insurance" and "an online affair". The coroner is a scientist so why would the police say "hey Doc this clown was having an affair or he made a ton of dough on insurance". That could change the coroners objectivity. It was stupid to not consider the size of the gun.
Exactly. But The other evidence they said should have changed his report should have no factor into it.
why would he do that tho ? if he genuinely believed it was a suicide why would he wait ? a coroner doesn’t factor in what the investigators find out into their report. it’s completely based on the body and nothing else. that’s why it’s the office of the medical examiner.. not the Medical/Crime Investigation Examiner.
I thought the same thing when I watched this.
A coroner isn’t even a medical doctor in many cases, he/she is typically an elected official. Whereas A medical examiner is a board certified forensic pathologist or a degree in another medical specialty.
I also thought if it was a violent, unexpected, or suspicious death a coroner attended the scene, but the person was autopsied by a ME. It’s weird Kristin’s case wasn’t handled by a ME.
I know it's a lawyers job to protect their client, but damn...considering her excuses for this man are "bad timing" and "he doesn't remember" she damn well knows he's guilty and still has the audacity to claim that Kristen took her own life multiple times. Listening to her talk left me feeling disgusted every time. Good on the police for pursuing an investigation when they realized something was off too!
Totally. I understand having to say awful things while defending your client in court, but I don't get why defense attorneys go on TV to say them.
Don't comment on the defense attorney. If you have nothing positive to say just move on.
Don't try to be like I know they're doing their job but +&$# them for doing their job..
@@surpriseimblack it’s not their job to come on TV and state these things, in court yes, but not on TV
You can put up a defense for your client without using a bunch of unbelievable, offensive excuses. The more of those you use, the less credible your argument is and the less a jury will believe you.
Save the excuses for core issues. For the other issues (like buying a sex doll with insurance money or having an on line affair) remind the jury that the defendant may do things they don’t like/agree with but that does not mean he killed his wife.
About 1200 women are murdered every year as a result of domestic violence. As many children are murdered as well. And about 125 law enforcement officers are killed in the line of duty investigating this horrid crime. Educating the public as early as grammar school is vital to helping people recognize the signs of domestic violence.
Absolutely agree. This kind of stuff needs to be taught in school. Would help kids as they start to date as well......
Men, any gender are victims also. Its a huge problem for everybody. Stay away from guns, sure there are other weapons but guns are just too easy.
I agree, it should be taught because our school teachers aren't overwhelmed enough already...it is not the school system's job to correct fix all of the world's social issues...that is the job of the parent! Parents( should) know their children, they need to step up...parents are the child's teacher for LIFE...ABOUT LIFE.
@@DoreenPagnotto I'm not saying teachers need to do this, but Domestic Violence organizations, local shelters, etc. Of course it's the job of the parent - but given that most parents are unqualified to be parents (mine certainly were not qualified), couldn't we give kids a leg up? School always felt like a safe place for me growing up - why not use that?
@@DoreenPagnotto It is far more likely that female children will go on to be victims of abuse if their mother was in an abusive relationship. Boys are a little more complex depending no the nature of the abuse, some become abusers, others abuse substances, so become campaigners against abuse (as do some females). But whatever way you look at it, the children most in need of the education are the ones least likely to get it. That goes for all sorts of bad values and anti-social behaviour. The state needs to break the chain and educate children from a young age how to be good people.
the coroner saying he believes the husband because there were no signs of "THEM BEATING AT EACH OTHER" is misogynistic af
he didn’t just make that up. 2 sentences before the sentence that triggered you he said I LOOKED AT THE BODIES FOR INJURIES, PAST AND PRESENT. 🤦🏾♂️
@@jerraddennis2225I guess he didn’t see her emotional scars from his controlling behavior. 🙄🙄 Holy Hell, you do realize not all abuse can be seen or leaves bruises, right?? This is why she needed a medical examiner to investigate her death instead of just the county coroner.
Also coroners are elected officials, many of whom don’t even have a medical degree whereas a medical examiner is a board certified forensic pathologist. This man has probably botched multiple death investigations.
Yes, Daniella, didn’t you know a controlling husband/wife is obviously not spousal batterer. lol
Apparently he forgot not all abuse leaves visible bruises I’m not a doctor, but he obviously didn’t see any emotional or mental bruising either 🙄🤯🙄
We should start a GFM, raise money to open a doggy daycare in that house she dreamed of. We can name the business “Kristen’s Kennel”
It's too late for all that. How about we start one for those that are alive and can actually benefit from it? Call it "Kristen's wings"
And who would run it?
I would. Animals deserve to be loved and cared for
I'm saddened that the coroner believed it was a suicide and didn't even check for gun residue. He doesn't take his job seriously. It hinders the investigation because of his pride.
Actually, if you watched the whole episode you'd know that the investigators didn't properly relay the circumstances surrounding the death to the coroner.
@@harlieschmidt5945 apparently he didn’t ask either. Just wrote her off and signed his name.
In my profession, if I don’t have the information I need, I’m expected to request that information. And my job doesn’t have anywhere near the impact that his does. While he was being professionally negligent, then after the information was brought to him, too egotistical to change the cause of death even to undetermined, the husband could very well have killed again.
@@harlieschmidt5945still . . .
@@judyadams8296yep. He seemed lazy
This coroner is incompetent and too stupid to acknowledge it.
No academy awards for Colby's initial interview.
His excessive fake crying is annoying
Not a very good actor was he.
exactly what i was thinking!
Absolutely annoying, and ridiculous.
Best intro to any show I've seen. Props to whoever created it, the lightening with the violin always gets me. It's the only intro I don't skip!
Same here!
It's great, it reminds me of the Unsolved Mysteries theme song.
Me too! Love it
I was gonna mention the opening music. Always liked it. It sounds more like a Cello, deep and foreboding.
I worked with a private investigator (my spouse) for 10 years, and anytime I heard “I’m a Christian” or “I’m not gonna lie to you, blah blah blah,” my trust went way down. Best one tho, was when a guy in jail said “there’s no way they could identify me! I had a sock hat over my face!” Really? That’s what you want us to tell the DA? Really?
I like how 48hrs put info at the end about help for domestic violence related stuff and not suicide 👌
I tried watching this but that fake crying of the husband is too much.......
So they never checked his or Kristans hands for gunshot residue, and nobody mentioned that she didn’t leave a suicide note?
Not everybody leaves a note. My dad didn’t
One thing all these cases have in common is that the victims are killed by what they tend to fear most, whether it be guns, strangulation/any form of suffocation, being assaulted, being poisoned, etc. Any other true crime fan noticing that pattern?
Yep, just watched one where the girl had a fear of fire and was burned to death
Noticed ✓ 😒
Yes.
Just watched one biggest fear was being kidnapped. That night she died everyone failed her and she was out late at night and got kidnapped
I lived about 2 blocks down when this happened, you can actually see our house from those sky b-roll shots. Remember hearing a shot going off that night and discussing if it was just a car backfire or something, then the next morning we were shocked.
The abandonment by her mother absolutely explains her getting into a relationship with an abuser and/or narcissistic abuser
100%, sadly!
Great point
Absolutely. And abused women (and men) likely miss the red flags in the beginning.
As a woman, I can't imagine shooting myself knowing other people are going to find me and only being in my underwear
First photo I seen of Colby I said yep he is the killer
If shes got the body for it, I dont think it would cross her mind , also in a moment of desperation and hurt you aren't thinking of being vain or modest etc. I still think he did it though
@@dreadheaddavid4207 Thanks for your input, man
@@shannonrusso3853 yes ma'am. Cool last name by the way
As woman, I agree! I thought about that right away. Ain’t no way
Police said she was almost naked when they entered the house. I don't believe a woman would take her clothes of before she killed herself.
They've already established that.
@@meghanmisaliar yeah I figured that out after I wrote the comment
I always think it's hilarious when a defence attorney/lawyer is giving an interview proclaiming the innocence of their client, like you're being paid to believe their innocent.... Why on earth would I put any stock in that?!
You would think that in ANY suicide case with a firearm that all people present would be tested for gunshot residue. Get a preliminary story from everyone on the scene and then test for residue so people cannot explain it away when they do find residue.
The medical examiner is a joke. That police department needs to find a new doctor for that position.
I take it you're not from around here... It's the other way around.
he was a coroner, not a medical examiner. there’s a difference.
coroners have experience in their fields (bodies).
medical examiners have that on top of medical degrees and licenses to practice medicine.
Well its like this. The man calls 911 and reports his wife sh##t herself next to him in bed. That pretty well gives the coroner 2 choices: cause of death self inflicted or the husband who is a blubbering mess and a devout church going Christian the one who did it. He was present so no 3rd party intruder. I can see not allowing for any present unusual visible trauma to the body a verdict of suicide by firearm. The only other would be the husband did it essentially. Not enough to go out on a limb.on a death certificate which must be signed off in a timely matter.
Agree. He seems senile
Actually @GamerMason123 a medical examiner should determine the manner of death without knowing if a person had a bubbly personality or not.
The crying seems forced
I totally agree he makes me cringe
Agreed! It's so obvious.
He cried every other sentence
Not going to lie: I was buying it (some people sound fake when they're crying)..... Aaaaand then we heard about him texting his girlfriend from the cop shop 🙄🤦🏾♀️
@@TheStar798 The crying alone from the 911 call to the interrogation i knew he was guilty
"He's a devoted christian..."
Please. As if that means ANYTHING.
it meant something in her defense, so why not his.
I love when people think they got away with it and get arrested later on . And the way he says "sure" as they arrest him. If he didnt do it he'd be shocked.
30:18 He went through over a 100 grand in 8 months?! He completely out of pocket.
Probably knew he was going to be found guilty so made sure he enjoyed his rubber friend before going to prison .
@christinebrument6851 good one
Chatting about video games while your wife is bleeding out? You can't make this stuff up. Guilty!
I can imagine a situation where the paramedics were taking forever, so the Deputy started talking about how long they were taking & started a conversation with the guy. It doesn't mean he isn't guilty, I believe he is. I just think that he, ofc, couldn't be weeping over his wife in that moment bc u know the medics had him escorted out & it seems like the Deputy was making small-talk🤷♀️
Sounds like he was asked the question
You mean the cop questioned him 🤡🤡🤡 that was the least suspicious thing he did
@@heathernks8thank you exactly my thoughts too
@@brittanyfikes9905 glad i wasnt the only one to catch that terrible reporting...like he wasnt just asked about it
Sometimes the defense attorneys are as sick as their clients.
The defense attorney fails to realize that victims families never let go and or forget things about their loved ones that they’ve lost. Saying two years is a long time to go back and talk to them is irrelevant and tasteless 😒
Nasty sycophant for a narcissist. They always smear the victim through the mud.
My brother passed away 7 years ago yesterday and it still feels like yesterday that he passed. It's almost like time doesn't move forward when u think of ur loved ones.
She's goofy.....
its her literal job you donut
@@zwebackshyper Seriously. These comments are giving me brain damage lol.
Kristen Trickle was a lovely soul, the perp a repellent scungilli. A heartfelt shout out to Kristen's family, Aaron Cunningham, J.B. Berkholder, Robert Anderson, Ashley Christensen, and finally the judge Glenn Braun, all of whom played a role in insuring that this cold blooded killer will spend the rest of his days where he belongs. And, of course, as always, thanks to Erin Moriarty.
“He’s a devoted Christian, he just doesn’t have it in him” , well that’s good enough for me. Case dismissed.
Right? 😆
He's a devout Christian having an online affair. Those things aren't supposed to go together.
The detective in this case is an awesome man of God and a personal friend. As for the murderer, Jesus warned… “When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and finding none it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house swept and put in order. Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there. And the last state of that person is worse than the first.” Luke 11:24-26
do they even hear themselves talk?! 😭🤦🏽♀️
Yep good enough for me. A good Christian lad could never stage so.ething like this. He wouldn't be a suspect flat out.
Being a “good Christian” man is code for - I think I’m superior to my wife and she’s supposed to do what I say. It is no indication at all of moral character!!
There’s such a light and peace in Kristen’s relatives. It’s obvious that they’re filled with the spirit of God. Thank God they were there for her.
I'm glad she found her faith again before she died.
I thought the same. You can just tell with some people.
The size/placement of the gun seems unrealistic, his distress lacks credibility, his online affair and his Internet search pretty much sums up his blatant guilt.
Let's not forget him trying to make out like he was some military special ops guy to the police in the hours after his wife's death. That might not seem directly relevant but it speaks volumes in relation to his mentality.
the second he said he "thought about putting the gun to my head and killing myself" I knew he killed her. There is NO way you would even think that for a second if your spouse shot themselves, you would call 911 and start CPR. He rehearsed that line thinking it sounded like something someone devastated would say, but it didn't match the situation at all.
And yet there is someone else who commented that she lost her husband the same way and was so devastated she contemplated the same thing. None of these emotional responses indicate guilt or innocence. It's supposed to be evidence driven. His words saying he put the gun back down on her and his searches on the life insurance and him lying about her doing it/military lies are the indicators of guilt that I would consider convicting him for but this is not a slam dunk case.
Twice he said he ran over to her . He also said he looked over to her laying beside him. How could he run over to her when she was lying next to him?
`That FAKE CRYING is truly sickening! 😫😝🤮What on Earth did she see in that creep? 🤔🤔
“His Guitar playing “
@@foxywhitetip7387 I also heard that.
Defense attorney saying doctors should know someone personally for years before giving their professional opinion is just BS
So you’re saying you can learn about a person all the intricacy in 1 meeting ? You must have tons of 1 night stands
@@joep3475 where do I say I'm an expert in reading people?
@@joep3475 you've completely missed the point, and showed your gutter thinking in the same breath.
The well trained Professional can deduce a great deal of information and create a reasonably accurate account of the mental state the deceased individual and their spouse from the multiple sources which were utilised.
For trained Professionals it's also actually quite easy to elicit a solid impression of an individual from one meeting, when we ask them specific questions and listen thoughtfully to their responses.
While at the same time saying her own family didn't know what was going on with her.
I love this show. I clean courtrooms for a living and listen to 48 hours while i work. Glutton for punishment.
Need some help?. Lol
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The only thing I hate is when people say they know someone would never do a particular thing or assume they know that person inside and out. It's almost an insult to say that. You never truly know fully what's in someones heart or mind. You never truly know what inner turmoil or demons a person might have going on. To say you KNOW someone would never commit suicide is never true. You don't know.
31:13 “for comfort and warmth… we have electric blankets for that”
Funny/not funny but this response made me spit some coffee out
I was laughing out loud too.
I thought about buying a fashion/dress doll once (some 40 years ago). At the time that was half for fun so i could point to it and say that was my wife. But i can understand you are so lonely you think of such options. Not for sex, but to have something there that resembles a person. That you can say hi to or something.
But in this case, it sounds so bad, as the plastic sex thing was for in bed and payed for by the money he got from the life insurance on the wife he killed.
Thats very yucky.
Ikr 😂
Also while weird, buying a sex doll isn’t a crime.
He definitely killed her though
I have been single since 2014 and true crime convinces me I’m making the right decision!!
Yep 👍 me as well
My ex was a psycopath. I lived with him for 22 years. Got away barely with my life. Never again.
@@netta96please be careful
Single for almost 3 year's 💃💃💃💃💃💃💃👨❤️💋👨👨❤️💋👨👨❤️💋👨
I saw a thing that said "women are the only species that have to mate w their only natural predator" 😔💔 so yeah, they ain't worth the risk much for me 🤣
“Good Christians” commit some of the most heinous crimes. So sick of that defense.
Just like "good Muslims".
It's all religions.
Then obviously they AREN'T "good" christians lol. Duh.
Exactly! Sickening that so many perverts and criminals put on a false "christian" front to cover their vile lifestyles!!
@@meghanmisaliarAmen and Awoman.
Religion is just easy to manipulate. The wholesome things usually are. It's the same reason why so many teachers are pedos and so many Dr's are influenced by government funding as opposed to the wellbeing of their patients.
Such a sad, sad story.
"he's a devoted Christian" - oooh, yes, yes, that is a GUARANTEE that he is not a murderer. Totally history aligns with this.
Hi I am not sure exactly what you are saying. You use the words “devoted Christian. That should be a guarantee of devotion. And then say “total history aligns with this”.
I think you are saying it doesn’t.
I may be misunderstanding you. You believe Christianity shows the opposite. I am sorry, if I am understanding you correctly that history shows the opposite of being devoted. I may be misunderstanding you.
If your experience has been the opposite of experiencing devotion, I am truly truly sorry.
For me I had the opposite experience.
I was the kid everyone picked on. Everyone but one person. She was a Christian. She was the most popular girl in the school. She risked her popularity by defending me.
She gave me hope in my hopeless world.
I didn’t know what a Christian was but I determined to become a Christian because of her.
There is a wonderful book out there called WHO IS THIS MAN. It goes through history and shows what a dog eat dog world it was. It shows how the world was changed for the better because of people following the teachings of Christ.
I am so sorry if this has not been your experience. That really upsets me. I wish you had my experience of being brought hope to my hopeless world.
@@shelteredsparrow2736No clue why you think OP is talking about personal experience. Those of us who’ve watched a lot of true crime over the years lost count of all the devoted Christian killers a long, long time ago
@@EllenLeah-pv2yw Thing is, people these days just believe someone if they say they're a Christian and that's just not the case, you have to look at how they live their life not just by what they say.
U sound goofy.
@@TamiTribianni The measure of genuineness of a Christian is not how good they are. According to the Bible, a well-behaved Christian, a badly-behaved Christian, and a non-Christian are all on equal moral footing, the only difference being that a true Christian recognizes that they are inherently proud and selfish, and therefore surrenders their life to Jesus Christ. For it is only the transforming power of Jesus that can ultimately make a person good. ".....he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."
"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life."
"So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."
These words are directly from the Bible. A person eithers believes them, or they don't.
How was he a devoted Christian when he was talking to another woman while being married. Thats not devoted. His lawyer needs to mark that off her list of why she believes him.
As a woman with depression and anxiety I would NEVER kms naked … the shame and embarrassment would be too much ..
100%
I wouldn’t kms, but if I did, there’s absolutely NO WAY I’d do it undressed. I can’t think of how any woman would do that. We just aren’t typically that way.
Literally every single WW has ",D&A" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Princesslaya90 I didn't mean "single" as in marital status. 🤦
@@Princesslaya90 I KNOW it's just ppl being dramatic. Ppl who love the attention and pity.
And I have had panic attacks too. Most ppl have. It's a normal thing. THATS my point!
Why did no one check for gun residue?!
So frustrating, they could have checked. Could have searched the house to see if he cleaned up after. So darn frustrating. They were outside talking about video games instead of looking around. RIP sweet angel.
The husband he’s crying is fake and he’s eye brows are awful 😮😮🙄🙄
Dude blew through the life insurance in less than a year. And he lied. And he had a side chick, a video game one 😂. Plus he was underemployed, lazy. Guilty as sin. Hopefully he can pay the life insurance back over the next 50 years with his prison job.
I love me some Erin Moriarty. She's the best at what she does. So personable.
Erin and Keith Morrison... The Best!
Fakest, creepiest, cry I've ever heard. So sad. Kristin was beautiful. Glad they got this monster. So fake.