She also got Trent reznor who was living at that house in 1994 to feel guilty about exploiting the murders that he moved out that same year. Read about it
Debra Tate acts like the criminal justice system is supposed to be her personal therapist, and blathers on about her feelings, which are totally irrelevant. And she's an awful liar, always making her role in her sister's life and in the story more prominent than it really was.
Interesting video. In 1969 I was 19 and lived very near Sharon. Sometimes when I was out front she would be riding her bicycle and she would stop and we would talk. She was a very sweet person. One to be missed and never feared - not even her spirit. Thank you. Oh-yeah, Rudy's house was a total replacement.
My mom, who passed away this time last year, told me a story a few times about how, when she was a little girl and my grandfather was posted in northern Italy, she would play with one of the Tate sisters - I think it was Debra. Her memories of that were hazy she said, but she did absolutely remember meeting Sharon as a little girl and being mesmerized by how beautiful she was.
I completely appreciate your respect and honour to Sharon Tate, her baby and the other people who lost their lives on that fateful night. I've heard stories about people hearing a woman screaming for her baby in the original home. No matter replacing the framework of the home, the imprint of what happened remains - over and over again.
There has to be so much stuff that happens in that house. But whoever owns it probably doesn't talk about it. I have lived in a house where someone got shot and every year on the anniversary around 10:00 I would hear a gunshot. The first time I heard it I ran out of the house and that was my first year there. I've lived in that house for 12 years I got to know so much about that house
@@debrabensinger1331 I agree with you. Something as horrible as what happened... I don't think everything would remain in a mild and serene atmosphere. The climate must be loaded with bad energies.
@@aliengirlbr401 I know that there is a big mansion there that the guy is selling for 80 million I think. No one is going to pay 80 million for a house that is full of negative energy. Not to sound like a nut job but I got to wonder if the spirits even realize that they have passed. On that night things would have been really chaotic with so much screaming and yelling things probably happened so quick and who is to say that they could be releasing that and that is a horrible. Because the woman was saying with the original House that you could hear a woman screaming for her child and like you were saying all of that negative energy it is like a footprint. There is a guy around that area and his house is loaded with activity everyone is probably heard of him he's at the end of the lane
@@debrabensinger1331 . I would like to go there. I am a spiritist and I feel bad energies when they are in the air. I would like to check. Talking mansion... I wouldn't buy it if I were rich. I wouldn't pay to live in a dark place like that for mere luxury. I'd like to know that guy you're talking bout
I really like David and his house. You can tell how much he’s fascinated by the history. I love that that he’s always open to show his house and tell his experiences.
18:10 - You feel that way because of the location of the house on the side of a cliff hundreds of feet about the canyon floor. It's very small tremors from earthquakes that continully happen along Benedict Canyon. Usually less that .40 so they are not even reported.
I am completely speechless 😮 I worked as a Amazon Flex driver and delivered to 10066 Cielo Drive, something about that house that stood up for me but I wasn’t aware it was a famous place, the gate is very high that you can’t peek inside..
You could spend a year in David Oman's house looking at all his memorabilia and you still wouldn't be finished. He's a very lucky guy to live right on the side of a canyon with those incredible views, watching the wildlife and getting the juice on his neighbors.
His neighbors have orange groves? I don't remember seeing any. I'm just kidding. I wouldn't want to walk up and down all those steps when I get older. I like my one floor home.
The only problem I have with this YT Channel is that I just recently discovered it and their catalog of Videos is so extensive that at 54 years old I will not live long enough to watch them all. Cheers!
I don't often click on to videos of this story. The first set of murders occurred on my sixteenth birthday. I followed everything in and television news, and newspapers as reports and stories unfolded. Then there were the books and documentaries. When I saw that this was your channel, I wanted to see this. You are always respectful, and your research is meticulous. Thank you!
I went there in 1972 when the house was still there and it probably looked like it did then. We had a hard time finding it no GPS back then. I loved being a teenager in the 60's and a young man in the early 70's.
Jak wspominasz walkę o prawa afroamerykanów? Czy pamiętasz jeszcze nastroje z lat 60? Czy pamiętasz podział miejsc? Jestem bardzo ciekawa takich wspomnień
This guy is a good guy, you can tell he gets strange feelings and I've been there and sadly a lot of people think you're crazy. I've picked up on spirits since I was a small child, never forget seeing a solid black shadow person when I was 4 years old. Thank you Mr Oman for remembering Sharon Tate's baby Paul who also was murdered that terrible night.
Deep respect to you for counting Sharon's unborn son as a victim and not ignored. Such interesting viewing and fabulous commentary watching you both. God Bless both of you.
I knew someone that worked on the ranch during the time of Manson, I was a runaway during the time and feel very fortunate to not have fallen in with this group. That was a most exclusive vid, Thanks 😻
I was living in Southern California at the time of the murders. Before them we dressed wacky and enjoyed the hippy clothes. No one locked their doors and life was carefree. After the murders the hippy clothes were stored. If you dressed in those clothes you were labeled "Manson followers". We started locking our doors. Things changed that day. Hippy times ended.
Always the same, only one rotten apple is needed to destroy freedom , same with the twin towers. Just look at how life was before the twin towers got destroyed. now everyone is treated as criminals at any airport in the world
I wasn't around during those times but I do see people now dressing in what you would call hippie clothes. especially the tops. Peasant tops, I think they're called, very flowy, big long sleeves. some are really cute looking but some are just too long, too much material.
OMG, you tell the story really well! I was just a little kid when this happened and it did change our world! God bless all of the victims! RIP 🙏 your all remembered and your all always loved !🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘
In the early 1980s, a friend of mine and I went up the road. We took pictures outside of the original gate. One of the neighbors came out and told us to leave. So we did. But I’m really glad we went up there when we could.
So glad David shared his perspective of living there and was nice enough to allow you to record from his place. Thank you so much for always doing these videos with much respect. I saw Sharon’s wedding dress up close in Vegas and it’s so sad such a gorgeous woman about to give birth. 😞 Thank you so much again love your videos. 🙏🏼
I was 17 when this happened. I remember waking up to the news and how shocked and terrified almost everyone in the country was. I saw all of Sharon’s movies and she was a favorite of mine. So very sad.
I was almost 10 years old. I mostly remember the coverage of the trial on the evening news. I distinctly remember when they were sentenced and the next thing we saw were the defendants and Mason's followers on the outside with their heads shaved.
I was 13 and remember all of it too😔😶 this is a great channel, covering so many people and history! Your respect is admirable and your content very fascinating
@@michelmurphy1979 I was five years old when I saw the girls with the shaved heads sitting on the corner. Of course, I didn't understand what it was all about at the time, but I remember as being shocked as I had never seen anything like it before.
This is an exceptional vlog. You showed where famous neighbours had lived and the breathtaking scenery....WOW. Instead of just focusing on the gruesome details, you made a vlog on a beautiful place that long ago happened to have a tragic past. A much kinder tribute to the beautiful Sharon Tate and company. Thank you. I enjoyed it very much.
I like that you include Sharon's baby as one of the victims. Sharon was two weeks from giving birth and begged for the life of her unborn child. Those evil killers still murdered her and her baby.
@@oldageisdumb thats not what pro choice means Cindy. Pro choice means having the right to choose what to do with your own body, it doesn't force people to abort their babies. Its so incredibly insensitive for you to push this beyond idiotic narrative while talking about the tragedy of Sharon Tate which has no relation to this what so ever.
@@heenibaby-p2w insensitive? I beg to differ. My point was to show that Sharon’s baby mattered. He was a full, loved human being. Pro choice individuals only feel it’s a baby when it’s convenient for them. If they want to abort their baby for their own convenience ( NOT talking about rape victims or medical situations) then it’s just a mass of cells. If it’s a situation like Sharon’s, then suddenly he is a baby. You can’t have it both ways. And yes she was only two weeks from her due date but I’ve heard pro choice individuals that don’t feel it’s a baby until birth. As long as it’s inside, still a mass of cells.
@@oldageisdumb but is it really safe to bring the pregnancy to full term if the mother is unable to deliver the foetus when she has an underlying health risk? If the health of both the baby and the mother is comprised is it really worth it? Or if the parents are unable to financially raise the baby or are in an abusive household, or what about rape victims? Pro life is not self righteous and should not be called pro life but instead against consent. And its not even about that, if someone doesn't feel they're able to bring life into this world they shouldn't have to, with no questions asked. You also forget pro choice means you can choose to keep the baby, its having the choice to control your own body. Sharons unfortunate case has nothing to do with this, its not like they came to murder her with the intent of killing a pregnant woman for choosing to go through with the pregnancy, they were cold blooded murderers. How dare you even compare it to pro choice when that is not at all what it means, maybe if you read a fucking book you would have an ounce of knowledge on what the two stances meant.
@@heenibaby-p2w You didn’t read my reply, obviously, because I said that my comments didn’t include medical issues or rape victims. You also didn’t read what my point was because you are clinging to your point instead of listening and having a discussion. I already addressed that. Sorry you only want to hear yourself talk.
I'm a big fan of Sharon. The fearless vampire killers is my favourite vampire film. What happened to her, her baby and friends was awful. Rest in peace to all.
@@Ephemeral2023 I think he was depicted in the movie "Charlie Says." There's a scene in the movie where a music producer comes to watch Charlie play a song. I knew about Trent Reznor living and recording there.
I was up at the original house in the late '80s or early 90s. I worked for an attorney that lived down the hill and he knew the owner of the house who wanted him to come up and listen to some tapes of a singer he was promoting. I worked at the attorney's house during that time and was really a great job. I went up to the property with him and I was stunned to see that it was a ranch-style house and that the property wasn't sitting on a lot of land like I imagined when I originally heard about the murders. It had beamed ceilings (this would be in the living room cuz that's the only room I was in with my boss and the owner) and I remember how Sharon Tate was found and it freaks me out somewhat. And I saw that there were homes not too far away from this particular property and I was stunned about that because I couldn't understand how people couldn't have heard what was happening. And I also remembered about the fact that Sebring was killed and my boyfriend at the time used to go to his hair salon to get haircuts. If I could recall correctly his Salon was on Fairfax not too far from the Garrett coffeehouse.
A few years ago I was reading Helter Skelter for the first time and got pretty wrapped up in this story. I did a lot of research and found that Jeff Franklin (Full House creator) built his palace on the Cielo Dr property. We went to visit my brother-in-law in LA while I was reading the book, so I was hoping to visit some of the places of the Manson murder story, including a visit up Cielo Dr. Well, we were too busy for me to do so, but my brother-in-law had a birthday party for his wife while we were there. I should mention my brother-in-law is Dave Coulier from Full House. At the party was Jeff Franklin! I was too shy to mention anything to him about my hoped for visit, but how cool would that have been!
I appreciate all of that, but feel the need to comment that it's now understood by most that VB's Helter Skelter was imaginative fiction. He came up with the whole idea without input from anyone who would have actually known about it, had it been true.
David seems like hed be a blast to hang out with. His stories are so fascinating and then theres that amazing fun house of his. Would Love to meet him someday and if luck is on my side perhaps even get invited to your his house. Dear Universe: align theaters and make this happen!
@@formermpc10 She was past 8 months, almost full term, as in the baby was viable and would have likely been born healthy had she gone into labor at that stage of her pregnancy.
Thank you for taking us along on your adventures. I just love David Oman he is such a sweet person and such a wonderful host. I love the respect you always have for the living as well as the departed. You have a wonderful channel again thank you
I remember this all to well. I was in 7th grade and I can still remember how I felt. It was so shocking and really hard to understand how something so horrible could happen. The day Manson died, was a very good day, too bad it took so long. And you are right, that day changed everything
Susan Atkins who killed Sharon Tate died in 2009. Years back she wrote a book Child of Satan; Child of God. She died of cancer. Can't say I was sad for her.
During the same time period, a neighbor friend of mine was a police officer in LAPD Hollywood division during the late 60's throughout the whole 1970's. He talked about a lot of things. The two things that stick out the most are he was one of the first responding officers to Janis Joplin's body discovery and another time he walked by Charles Manson in jail right after the arrest for this murder. He said that when he saw Charles Manson in jail that "Manson looked like a little shit head trying to appear tough." Also, he felt really bad about seeing Janis dead from addiction. He knew that Janis had a world of love and respect as both a person and a musician.
@@julietrask7497 Yes, I do remember him saying that when he saw Charles Manson in the jail cell that one time that Manson "Looked like a little shit head trying to appear tough." And he really did feel bad for Janis. He knew that Janis had so much love and respect as musician and tragically got locked up with addiction.
This is my take on Manson. I don’t claim to have the psychiatric records or any such knowledge. But. He’s been reared and grew up in the the worst kind of university. The school of hard knocks. And he mastered his manipulative and narcissistic mind control over easily influenced individuals. Some people have magnetic personalities. From my experience they can’t keep it up for very long , though. But he really did manipulate them to believe everything he said. If that was nowadays. He’d get his bitch ass funny face bitch slapped the world over. It just so happened that a few dissolute lost in life vulnerable people came across him and he woo’d them probably with his streetwise attitude and a little psychological insight, can get you what you want. David koresh has similarities. Only he was smarter. These Netflix documentaries there’s a new one next flicks. But they airbrush so much information out. I’ve seen a few documentaries over the years. But very few bring up. How the female leader of the branch davidians. The 70 odd year old woman. Who apparently had a relationship with vernon. When it was confirmed that she couldn’t have a son. She was going out with gang. For a day shopping. I’m under the impression she was wheelchair bound and suddenly, she slipped out of her wheelchair locks and fell out the back doors. The only thing I am aware of is that she passed away. 🙏🏼💜. R. I.P. Then vernon became the spiritual leader. Greed and power are the undoer of men 💜 namaste
'The Doors' adorned hallway, black-light artwork, handsome big weed plant growing... David seems like a man familiar with psychedelics. My kind of guy. I'd love to see his movie. Hope it finds distribution soon.
Not till September as she was 8 months pregnant on the night of August 8th 1969. I was born in October 69. Somehow I always thought Sharon was expecting a daughter. You mentioned a son?
@@robertkellogg1199 She was 8 1/2 months pregnant, she was due to give birth in 2 weeks and even begged her killers to hold her hostage for two weeks so she could have her baby, and then let them kill her. Yes, she had a son and he was posthumously named Paul Richard Polanski, he was buried in her arms.
How devastating and so sad. Susan Atkins killed her and the baby as a command by Manson. Both shall be judged by God. As appointed on to men once to die but after this the judgment. Hebrews 9:27
They KNOW, they know you're there for them 🙏 that figurine part was so crazy. But it's also amazing what David does, and he has such respect for Sharon & the other victims. I remember seeing him on a TV show of people who share their paranormal experiences & he was talking about the hauntings when he first began experiencing them and feeling that it had something to do with Sharon and the other victims. So it's amazing that you got to speak with him ☺️
I was born in 1961 and remember hearing the details on the news as a kid. You would think a person would be safe in such a pleasant location. But evil is everywhere. RIP beautiful Sharon Tate and baby. 🧡🙏
@@raechelweir8861 Yes, you are right. I remember Robert Kennedy's assassination, the assassination of Martin Luther King, the La Bianca murders by the Manson Family after Sharon Tate, Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick, and many details about the Vietnam War.
@@rozchristopherson648 .. Oh yes the La Bianca murders were just as dreadful....chappaquiddick was a travesty..bobby Kennedy virtually got off scott free over that. Those lovely young American soldiers going to war and the treatment they got on returning home was just awful. I think I was nearly four when Kennedy died...that changed America from I have read here in NZ.
I'm 68, and I remember this like it just happened. I remember how scared everyone was, and how scared I was! I was just sure they were coming to San Diego next! Thank you for this post. ✊👍👩🦼
My father was a general practitioner in Chatsworth, Calif., a town right next to Spahn Movie Ranch in Simi Valley, and treated the Manson Family - just the women - at no charge. They baked bread and made leather-fringed pot pouches as payment for their services (mostly for STDs). My dad, a religious man, just enjoyed the debate about Charlie and Jesus Christ. Coooo-Coooo, baby! My sister met Charlie at Topanga Plaza (for those who know the area); he invited her to smoke pot at the ranch. Finally, my family and friends rode horses at Spahn ALL. THE. TIME. I don’t remember anyone (guides or employees) from our rides, but it’s still weird to think of my family’s minor brushes with the whole Manson situation.
I remember that day completely because my father died in a traffic accident that same day. I remember how we boys were watching TV the next Saturday morning, and our aunt came to see my mother and when she left, she stopped by me and my brothers. I don't know why, but while watching the TV news about Sharon Tate, she suddenly told us: "You don't have a father anymore" .. I don't know what she meant by that, but at least it didn't make us feel any better.
I asked about this in chat last week and you said "stay tuned". I love it, always down for a vlog at David's house! Also, thank you for getting the telephone pole correct. Most people don't realize it was moved from one side of the street to the other.
Loved this video! I watch anything/everything Manson related because I also have a Grimm fascination with the whole story. The views in this video are absolutely gorgeous as well. This was awesome! Thanks Michael and Jessica for taking us along!
I have always been fascinated by the Manson case and you are right it did “ change the world “ it exposed evil that people had never seen before. You walking up the road the road all those people went up to meet their demise was creepy. This also showed the beauty of that area in California, TY for great video.
I was born the morning of 08 Aug 1969. For the longest time, I was angry to have my first day of life associated with Manson. As I grew older and matured, I realized the link I share with Sharon. Now I embrace it and the more I opened my mind, the more I got in touch with my sixth sense. As a child, I was never a Beatles or Beach Boys fan, nor did I care much for The Mamas & The Papas--which angered a lot of people, but I couldn't put my finger on why. I was never an Angela Landsbury fan, either. And I was lukewarm toward Dean Martin for many years. Ironically, I LOVE Barbara Lewis, and I have from the moment I heard her sing, but I couldn't explain why. Years later, when the internet exploded, I did research and boy was I blown away. I learned that Barbara was one of Sharon's bestest friends. I learned the association of all the other aforementioned people. Here's the weirdest part of all, I looked at the time of my birth, and I arrived into this world at almost the exact moment The Beatles were taking the famous Abbey Road picture. It does not get weirder than that.
So many theories….. I’m intrigued to know the Angela Lansbury connection though. Perhaps they didn’t like her homespun, colloquial ways of always getting the best of the bad guys 👌🧐🤓😎🙏🏼
Another great one, for sure. I was always fascinated about this case. Reading about it is one thing, actually seeing it is something else. How did you come upon that guy (Omman?) whose house you toured? He is quite a character with an interesting house/story as well. Yes, the views are quite astounding all over Southern California. I lived there for 22 years and really miss it a lot. Strange connection to the caretaker of the Tate house, William Garretson. I’m a truck driver leased to (owner operator ) a company based in Columbus, Ohio. My boss once asked me if I knew much about the Manson case. I said I did and he asked me if I knew who William Garretson was. I said I did and he told me that he used to drive for us a few years back. He then said that William told him that he was there on the property the night of the murders because he was the caretaker. He then said, “I thought he was bullshitting me so I googled his name. Sure as shit, there he was!”
Thank goodness for your videos! The high pollen count is triggering my asthma and my allergies are awful so not getting out much. Your videos are keeping me sane and honestly I am hooked on them. You are a wonderful storyteller and the story is told with the utmost respect. Keep up the great work!
Yes, very true. I remember when the Manson murders happened and it really did change the way we viewed life. And, I remember when President Kennedy was shot. Another horrible, senseless crime that changed our lives forever.
Oh please, the whole Manson cult thing was a deflection to cover up the canyons degeneracy, the murders (deplorable as they were) weren't senseless they were payback for a bum drug deal of which two of the murdered were front and centre, Sebrings hair empire was a front for his brother supplying cocaine to Hollywood stars, no-one deserved the brutality of that night but please lets stop with the 'little innocents' BS, Cielo Drive was a hub of shady goings on and it came back to bite hard, as for the hillside kook and his fellow kook guests with all their 'experiences' and meltdowns, well colour me shocked
@@blobgooll9395 And for every wacky conspiracy theory there's either a gatekeeper who benefits from the official line or a normy who daren't do their own research for fear of real life invading their cosy paradigm
My boyfriend took me here since I’m fascinated with cults, murders etc We obviously didn’t drive up there but it was around 8:30 pm we were at the beginning of the driveway and I can just feel sadness and dark energy as well It was a crazy feeling
I’ve watched a few of your videos now and I gotta say your content is amazing. Great insight and to the point with decent backstory for understanding. One of my new favourite channels. I hope you get millions of subs Grimm!
Would like to echo the sentiments of your guest in the video and say I love your take on locations and history, Love and respect from across the pond 🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
OMG!! 1:37 Looks exactly as it did in the beginning of the movie Helter Skelter. I remember seeing the movie and it scared the crap out of me knowing there's people like this in this world. Great stuff guys.
I was 3 years old when these killings took place. At that time I was living just over the hill, not too far away in the Westchester area. Of course being 3 years old I don't remember anything about it. My parents did a really good job keeping both my younger brother and I sheltered from these events (not that I would have understood them anyway). My mother later told me that things didn't get really scary for both her and my Dad until the LaBianca killings. That's when they told me they started to really feel a since of panic and urgency. By 1970, my Dad had accepted another job and had moved us from the Los Angeles area to the small mountain community of Tehachapi (Thanks Dad). I didn't start learning about the murders until decades later. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Wait? We were down there at that time!"
What a joy all the way around. So tastefully done! And I must make mention of this: I've never seen David Oman so relaxed, so confident and such a pleasure to be around. I've watched him in so many vids and shows, and he's def. a changed man. He's matured and mellowed and well, it's cool to see. He used to be wound a little tight. But....so was I....many moons ago. God Bless us all.
I was 10 years old living in Delaware when I learned about the murders. I'm 65 now, living in California and this still haunts me! This is something you can never forget! I pray that all 8 of these dear souls are resting in peace!
What's with these rich people always buying these iconic properties and then demolishing,gutting, or outright destroying them to build some ugly mansion on? Is that a thing to do when you're rich? Destroy history and build some awful looking monstrosity over it?
@Ameretsu Shidori The house was bought in 1993 by Harvey Weintraub and he tore the house down in 1994 to build, 'Casa Bella' on the property and then finally sold it in 2006 I do believe, completely unfinished and the new owner went to town on it. I agree with your thoughts, the original house was much more quaint compared to what is now there. That is LA in a nut shell...Little of the past remains.
@@getlauriekor Well all things considered look at what youtube channel you're on. Not everyone wants to tour Gettysburg and watch civil war reenactments or visit the Liberty Bell. Some of us find the grim side of history just as fascinating. Whether something good or bad happened at a location it's the idea that a historic event took place there that changed things forever and it should be preserved in some format.
You did an awesome job making this video. It's always such a sad story, but I always wonder why we want to know more? I like watching videos of David Oman's house too. It's such a beautiful place, but scary at the same time. I have always wondered if any of his neighbors have had some of the same experience? I couldn't imagine what it must of been like when the maid 1st found them. I probably would have had nightmares for the rest of my life. Thank you for sharing this with us.
@Bonnie Brown, Well here is my channel all recorded here at my house, take a look at my channel, I just posted 6 videos from the same night in November of last year www.UA-cam.com/davidoman Thanks, David Oman
Thank you for including Paul Richard Tate-Polaski, in the death count of Manson's family! The news always said,, "The 5 Tate victims!" Baby Paul was a victim too! Sharon was 8 & 1/2 months and had she given birth that day in 1969, Paul would have lived. I had just turned 13 & lived with my parents in Philadelphia. My parents always watched the news during dinner & this was long before we had remotes for the TV so you had to go to the set to change the volume, channel, or to turn it off. We had started to eat & the news came on about Sharon Tate & thevmurders. My dad ran to change the channel but every channel had it on. We ate dinner with no TV. But that was enough to peek my interest!! I have a small black & white TV in my room, so I would wait till the 11 PM news and watched as that story unfolded. The next night I heard my dad say to my mom, "There was 2 more murders in Los Angeles. Same weird stuff so we will leave the TV off!" I finished my dinner and said I was reading a book and wanted to get back to it, so could I leave the table? They said yes. My TV had headphones with it and I watched a different channel's report on both murder scenes. When the Manson family was arrested and Susan Atkins later told her jail cell friend that she had done those murders, I would always watch the news at 11 PM, if I missed the dinner news. I did a report for my English class in 10th grade, on the Tate-LaBianca murders. Our English classes were done with spooky things. So we had books about haunted places & murders, etc. The school had a glass exterior, no windows that opened except the fire escape windows on either end of the 3 floors. The hallways were by the windows & the interior classroom had windows but non opened. There were 2 classroom doors that faced each other and in between was a door to a smaller classroom. No windows at all. The English teacher was great. He had a real coffin in his classroom! It was great when you got there in time to grab a seat in the coffin. He believed in hauntings & talked about feeling the presence of people in places he had traveled. He was the one who told us about Storesbury's Mansion--Whitemarsh! It was a mansion built by Stotesbury's for his wife. They later sold the estate to a chemical mfering company. The workers got very spoiled by things they saw there! So a bunch of us went up there during the dsytime. The estate had no house s around it and a long driveway so we could see if someone was driving or walking towardscus. (As in the police!) The place was haunted. There were certain rooms that when you walked in, you could feel the presence of the Stotesbury's!! There was a second mansion built called Lynnehurst Manson, also abandoned! We went there at night and brought a tape recorder and Led Zepplin's Houses of the Holy was echoing through the house. One night it was myself, my friend Chrissy, her boyfriend Jimmy, & my boyfriend Denny. We had a blanket on the lawn and the guys had gone to the wooded area to the left of the house as you faced it. Chrissy & I were sitting when I suddenly felt a breeze. The sounds of crickets & an owl suddenly stopped. It was also a full moon, so the house was very lit up. No one walked to the mansion because the road & driveway was about"5 miles. We knew we were the only people there as we got there just prior to sunset and there were no other cars. I heard a noise and looked up to the 2nd floor. I saw a figure in the window. It opened the window. I remember telling Chrissy that the guys had gotten to the 2nd floor & opened the window to scare us. We both stared at the figure in the window & saw no facial features, just a white face! At that second, both guys came from the woods! There had been no time for them to go from the 2nd floor middle of the mansion to the woods. As I glanced back to the window, it slammed shut! Usain Bolt could not have run faster than Chrissy & I. The guys couldn't catch up until we got to the car. There are videos of both mansions on you tube. Just be sure to add Whitemarsh Hall to Stotesbury's Mansion or you get the catering place in center city Philly!! Whitemarsh was torn down & town homes now sit on what had been a massive estste. Last I heard, Lynnehurst was still.standing and now has guards with dogs. Total, Sharon Tate's sister, Debra, lives & works in California. She gets on line petitioned signed by people every time one of Manson's followers is granted parole. She then takes the petitions to the CA governor and the governor overrides the parole board. All of them were given a death sentence. Later changer to life without parole, but they still get parole hearings! One of his followers, Bobby Beausolei, looked in the eyes of the parole board and grinned at them. He then said, "Y'all better hope I never get out!" Bobby, along with Susan Atkins, & Charlie Manson, hand gone to the home of music teacher, Gary Hinman. They tortured him for a few days before they killed him! Manson had used a sword to cut off Hinman's ear. They are all into their 70's. Manson & Atkins are dead. Baby Paul never was able to breathe the air. Sharon pleaded for the babies life. She was slaughtered anyway. Roman Polanski was over in Poland when he got the call. He had just finished a movie had had made and was headed back to 10050 Cielo Drive. He was taking a few months off to be with Sharon & their child when he or she finally arrived. Sharon had said that the on!y thing she ever wanted to do, was to hold her baby in her arms! Paul would be 53 years old in August! Roman saw to it that Sharon held baby Paul for all eternity. He is buried in her arms. I can only imagine that Sharon & the others are still around that land. Such a beautiful lady, and would probably been in movie a for decades to come had her life not been snuffed out by sick individuals for their own pleasure!
I remember when I was a kid..there were a lot of beautiful ladies on The Beverly Hillbillies. One day, I remember my parents saying "oh that one..is really beautiful!" They had noticed her before she became a big star. By the time of the crime, we lived in Kansas..and people were scared..that far away!
I love the respectful way that you covered this story. I think the Oman house is really cool also. I saw that Ghost Adventures episode. I think Zak can be a big PITA but I definitely got a self centered vibe from Oman.
It was so nice seeing yours and David's interaction and hearing of your joys about living there in Cali. Sure there's some cons but clearly there are pros. Such a devastating part of California history. But also world wide definitely was effected aswell. Especially back then when they weren't as aware of evil that hides in the shadows as much as we do today
Great video. Years ago, me and my ex gf drove by Cielo drive and walked up to that gate to check it out. It was very overwhelming knowing what kind of horror happened that night. We walked past David Oman house and saw him pull in and he said hi to us.
@Jason Alba, I remember that, how the Hell are you guys. Nice to see that you still remember your visit up here. Thanks for mentioning it. Take care David
My new favorite channel. For the last week, I've binge-watched every video. Loved the Planet of the Apes one, and this one is a banger too. I live close to here as well.
The murders happened a couple weeks after the first moon landing and nearly two month before the '69 draft lottery. I still remember where I was when I first heard of the Cielo drive murders. I remember a lot of things from the 60's. The weed plants are a nice touch!.
RIP Sharon and the other victims. I've been fascinated by David's story since around the time of the Ghost Hunters episode, in part because of the Manson murders. Its always intriguing to listen to him speak about these things that he's experienced.
@Finishin.My.Coffee Well, Thanks for the mention, I hope that my story and continued experiences here at my house are of interest and entertaining as well. I hope you've seen my channel too. Thanks, David
Epic video! My husband & I went to California on our honeymoon in 2016 & *almost* visited the Oman House! Kicking myself now for deciding against it-that just means we have to go back!
Im SO glad you met up with David Oman! Awesome material as always! Its a shame they tore the house down, and sadly the LaBianca house might suffer the same fate as Im sure the land is worth much more than the houses these days.I believe tobacco heiress Doris Duke lived at the Falcons Lair at one time too PS Just for those who don't know and might be interested, the Nine Inch Nails video for "Gave Up" was filmed at 10050 Cielo Drive, ironically featuring Marilyn Manson. Another great video...Thanks again Happy Halloween! : )
@Cave Man, That makes 2 of us. I had just seen the Road House blues video that Michael shot and was like, he is one Hell of a vlogger, I like his show and would like to meet him and have him visit sometime, 2 weeks later, I got a message from him and the next thing I know he's coming over. I had a blast having The Grime Life Collective visit. If you want to check out my ghost videos here's my channel www.UA-cam.com/davidoman Thanks David
@@davidoman Greetings from Canada sir! : ) Its an honor to get a message from you! I just knew you guys would hit it off, as a "meeting of the minds" can be a magical thing. At the beginning of the video I was even thinking " Too bad he couldnt meet David Oman...hes right there!" What a nice surprise! Ive heard stories about you and your house for years, and while LA is still on my bucket list, I look forward to delving deeper with these videos.. You have a new sub. Thanks for the msg, and best wishes from Canada! : )
@@caveman3021 Well Thanks Cave Man! I have a few friends from the Great White North...Take a look at my book, and get in touch if you make it down South to LA. Ghosts of Cielo Drive, GhostsofCieloDrive.com. Thanks again, David
I have a real love for Sharon and all the others taken from us back in 1969 by those bugs, sign all the petitions for their paroles to be denied for Sharon's sister Deb and the memory of their other siblings. Thanks for making this video, may God keep them all well in His Kingdom.
Really enjoyed this upload and so glad I found your channel. Loved the Killer Klowns and Lost Boys vids too, not to mention how jealous I am of David's 'Doors' poster collection here! Keep up the good work guys. You definitely need your own Netflix series. Best wishes from the UK.
Sharon was sooo beautiful.
Her sister still goes to all of the Mansons Followers Parole hearings. She fights for her sister and unborn baby.
Wow! That is so good to hear!
She also got Trent reznor who was living at that house in 1994 to feel guilty about exploiting the murders that he moved out that same year. Read about it
I like how he mentions that six people died on Cielo Drive including Sharon’s baby..
thank you sir good job 👏 respect
Debra Tate acts like the criminal justice system is supposed to be her personal therapist, and blathers on about her feelings, which are totally irrelevant. And she's an awful liar, always making her role in her sister's life and in the story more prominent than it really was.
@WinGate Mose I'd like to see your kid lying on the table receiving the lethal drug cocktail, and hear the tune you'd be singing then.
Interesting video. In 1969 I was 19 and lived very near Sharon. Sometimes when I was out front she would be riding her bicycle and she would stop and we would talk. She was a very sweet person. One to be missed and never feared - not even her spirit.
Thank you.
Oh-yeah, Rudy's house was a total replacement.
I would love to live on Cielo Drive.
HUH
Man just casually dropped this haha
Todo mundo agora diz que falou com ela ..mentirosa..
I like how he mentions that six people died on Cielo Drive including Sharon’s baby..
thank you sir good job 👏 respect
Absolutely
It might have been not born yet but if it has a heart beat it’s live to me
Sharon was sooo beautiful.
Her sister still goes to all of the Mansons Followers Parole hearings. She fights for her sister and unborn baby.
Steven Parent, who was visiting the caretaker was the first one to ne murdered. He's often forgotten as having
been a victim.
@@riccali3519 it was 6 at Cielo drive including the baby and Parent
My mom, who passed away this time last year, told me a story a few times about how, when she was a little girl and my grandfather was posted in northern Italy, she would play with one of the Tate sisters - I think it was Debra. Her memories of that were hazy she said, but she did absolutely remember meeting Sharon as a little girl and being mesmerized by how beautiful she was.
Super sweet you counted her baby as a victim. This is the first time I heard him called a victim. Very respectful.
He WAS a victim.. 8.5 month old fetus is fully developed
then is abortion also murder?
@@rakeshroshan4119 Yes.
@@sandyc.5017 fair. :)
No
I completely appreciate your respect and honour to Sharon Tate, her baby and the other people who lost their lives on that fateful night. I've heard stories about people hearing a woman screaming for her baby in the original home. No matter replacing the framework of the home, the imprint of what happened remains - over and over again.
There has to be so much stuff that happens in that house. But whoever owns it probably doesn't talk about it. I have lived in a house where someone got shot and every year on the anniversary around 10:00 I would hear a gunshot. The first time I heard it I ran out of the house and that was my first year there. I've lived in that house for 12 years I got to know so much about that house
@@debrabensinger1331 I agree with you. Something as horrible as what happened... I don't think everything would remain in a mild and serene atmosphere. The climate must be loaded with bad energies.
It is true. It's no use demolishing and building another house/mansion. What happened still remains there.
@@aliengirlbr401 I know that there is a big mansion there that the guy is selling for 80 million I think. No one is going to pay 80 million for a house that is full of negative energy. Not to sound like a nut job but I got to wonder if the spirits even realize that they have passed. On that night things would have been really chaotic with so much screaming and yelling things probably happened so quick and who is to say that they could be releasing that and that is a horrible. Because the woman was saying with the original House that you could hear a woman screaming for her child and like you were saying all of that negative energy it is like a footprint. There is a guy around that area and his house is loaded with activity everyone is probably heard of him he's at the end of the lane
@@debrabensinger1331 . I would like to go there. I am a spiritist and I feel bad energies when they are in the air. I would like to check. Talking mansion... I wouldn't buy it if I were rich. I wouldn't pay to live in a dark place like that for mere luxury. I'd like to know that guy you're talking bout
I really like David and his house. You can tell how much he’s fascinated by the history. I love that that he’s always open to show his house and tell his experiences.
He's a good guy!
18:10 - You feel that way because of the location of the house on the side of a cliff hundreds of feet about the canyon floor. It's very small tremors from earthquakes that continully happen along Benedict Canyon. Usually less that .40 so they are not even reported.
have you watch ghost adventure they go here and investigate
I love you so much Lucy you're such a beautiful amazing sweet person sweetie 💙
Hes nuts like all those in Hollywood lol
I am completely speechless 😮 I worked as a Amazon Flex driver and delivered to 10066 Cielo Drive, something about that house that stood up for me but I wasn’t aware it was a famous place, the gate is very high that you can’t peek inside..
Then you've delivered to my house as well...
What about it stood out did u get a weird feeling I felt that at some places
You could spend a year in David Oman's house looking at all his memorabilia and you still wouldn't be finished. He's a very lucky guy to live right on the side of a canyon with those incredible views, watching the wildlife and getting the juice on his neighbors.
His neighbors have orange groves? I don't remember seeing any. I'm just kidding. I wouldn't want to walk up and down all those steps when I get older. I like my one floor home.
The only problem I have with this YT Channel is that I just recently discovered it and their catalog of Videos is so extensive that at 54 years old I will not live long enough to watch them all. Cheers!
I don't often click on to videos of this story. The first set of murders occurred on my sixteenth birthday. I followed everything in and television news, and newspapers as reports and stories unfolded. Then there were the books and documentaries.
When I saw that this was your channel, I wanted to see this. You are always respectful, and your research is meticulous. Thank you!
We really appreciate it thank you
Thanks for sharing.
i was 13 remember it well
@@teresalinton5898 thanks for sharing
@@rocknation7065 you are welcome
Thank you for counting Sharon's unborn child as a victim too. Decades of coverage and it's like he was never counted as a victim.
That’s usually the way people report a pregnancy that ends horribly, as if the fetus never existed.
@@agems56 what month was she murdered
@@silaswombles7118 I think she was over 8 months pregnant ☹️☹️
@@loulou7963 thank you for letting me know, thank you very. Much.
It's good that he included Sharon's baby. He forgot
about Steven Parent. He was the 1st victim,
I went there in 1972 when the house was still there and it probably looked like it did then. We had a hard time finding it no GPS back then. I loved being a teenager in the 60's and a young man in the early 70's.
Lucky you
Jak wspominasz walkę o prawa afroamerykanów? Czy pamiętasz jeszcze nastroje z lat 60? Czy pamiętasz podział miejsc? Jestem bardzo ciekawa takich wspomnień
How did u feel when you went lol how was the air this is top one of the creepiest places to me
This guy is a good guy, you can tell he gets strange feelings and I've been there and sadly a lot of people think you're crazy. I've picked up on spirits since I was a small child, never forget seeing a solid black shadow person when I was 4 years old.
Thank you Mr Oman for remembering Sharon Tate's baby Paul who also was murdered that terrible night.
These videos are well done and i do like David always enjoy him too!!
Deep respect to you for counting Sharon's unborn son as a victim and not ignored.
Such interesting viewing and fabulous commentary watching you both.
God Bless both of you.
so sad her son never had an opportunity to even live... and she implored these aholes to spare him OMG
I knew someone that worked on the ranch during the time of Manson, I was a runaway during the time and feel very fortunate to not have fallen in with this group. That was a most exclusive vid, Thanks 😻
Who did you know, Lorrie? ✝
Bless you 🙏♥🙌
Ummm okay I wanna hang with Lorrie and hear all about it! 🤣 Sounds interesting
Glad to hear you missed that tragedy...so awful.
Runaway? What was that like?
I was living in Southern California at the time of the murders. Before them we dressed wacky and enjoyed the hippy clothes. No one locked their doors and life was carefree.
After the murders the hippy clothes were stored. If you dressed in those clothes you were labeled "Manson followers". We started locking our doors. Things changed that day. Hippy times ended.
That makes me so sad. I love hippie clothes.
Always the same, only one rotten apple is needed to destroy freedom , same with the twin towers. Just look at how life was before the twin towers got destroyed. now everyone is treated as criminals at any airport in the world
I wasn't around during those times but I do see people now dressing in what you would call hippie clothes. especially the tops. Peasant tops, I think they're called, very flowy, big long sleeves. some are really cute looking but some are just too long, too much material.
You look so young to remember the 60s!
OMG, you tell the story really well! I was just a little kid when this happened and it did change our world! God bless all of the victims! RIP 🙏 your all remembered and your all always loved !🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘🙏⚘
This guy is the nicest person ever. Such great stories. I would love to spend the day with him just listening to all his experiences.
Thank you David Omen for the fascinating tour!!!
Oman, sorry first time seeing this.
In the early 1980s, a friend of mine and I went up the road. We took pictures outside of the original gate. One of the neighbors came out and told us to leave. So we did. But I’m really glad we went up there when we could.
So glad David shared his perspective of living there and was nice enough to allow you to record from his place. Thank you so much for always doing these videos with much respect. I saw Sharon’s wedding dress up close in Vegas and it’s so sad such a gorgeous woman about to give birth. 😞 Thank you so much again love your videos. 🙏🏼
the weed plants just chillin next to david oman lol
@@D.B.Cooper-1971 8.42
Noice plant
He named her too!
I was wondering if anyone saw that.
Lol awesome
I was 17 when this happened. I remember waking up to the news and how shocked and terrified almost everyone in the country was. I saw all of Sharon’s movies and she was a favorite of mine. So very sad.
She was a really lovely looking lady..
I was almost 10 years old. I mostly remember the coverage of the trial on the evening news. I distinctly remember when they were sentenced and the next thing we saw were the defendants and Mason's followers on the outside with their heads shaved.
I was 13 and remember all of it too😔😶 this is a great channel, covering so many people and history! Your respect is admirable and your content very fascinating
@@michelmurphy1979 I was five years old when I saw the girls with the shaved heads sitting on the corner. Of course, I didn't understand what it was all about at the time, but I remember as being shocked as I had never seen anything like it before.
I was 6 year's old. Sharon was stunning.
This is an exceptional vlog. You showed where famous neighbours had lived and the breathtaking scenery....WOW. Instead of just focusing on the gruesome details, you made a vlog on a beautiful place that long ago happened to have a tragic past. A much kinder tribute to the beautiful Sharon Tate and company. Thank you. I enjoyed it very much.
I agree with David Oman, the view of all the wildlife and canyons are breathtaking and the concrete of LA can’t compare.
I like that you include Sharon's baby as one of the victims. Sharon was two weeks from giving birth and begged for the life of her unborn child. Those evil killers still murdered her and her baby.
And yet millions of pro choices would tell you the baby doesn’t matter
@@oldageisdumb thats not what pro choice means Cindy. Pro choice means having the right to choose what to do with your own body, it doesn't force people to abort their babies. Its so incredibly insensitive for you to push this beyond idiotic narrative while talking about the tragedy of Sharon Tate which has no relation to this what so ever.
@@heenibaby-p2w insensitive? I beg to differ. My point was to show that Sharon’s baby mattered. He was a full, loved human being. Pro choice individuals only feel it’s a baby when it’s convenient for them. If they want to abort their baby for their own convenience ( NOT talking about rape victims or medical situations) then it’s just a mass of cells. If it’s a situation like Sharon’s, then suddenly he is a baby. You can’t have it both ways. And yes she was only two weeks from her due date but I’ve heard pro choice individuals that don’t feel it’s a baby until birth. As long as it’s inside, still a mass of cells.
@@oldageisdumb but is it really safe to bring the pregnancy to full term if the mother is unable to deliver the foetus when she has an underlying health risk? If the health of both the baby and the mother is comprised is it really worth it? Or if the parents are unable to financially raise the baby or are in an abusive household, or what about rape victims? Pro life is not self righteous and should not be called pro life but instead against consent. And its not even about that, if someone doesn't feel they're able to bring life into this world they shouldn't have to, with no questions asked. You also forget pro choice means you can choose to keep the baby, its having the choice to control your own body. Sharons unfortunate case has nothing to do with this, its not like they came to murder her with the intent of killing a pregnant woman for choosing to go through with the pregnancy, they were cold blooded murderers. How dare you even compare it to pro choice when that is not at all what it means, maybe if you read a fucking book you would have an ounce of knowledge on what the two stances meant.
@@heenibaby-p2w You didn’t read my reply, obviously, because I said that my comments didn’t include medical issues or rape victims. You also didn’t read what my point was because you are clinging to your point instead of listening and having a discussion. I already addressed that. Sorry you only want to hear yourself talk.
I'm a big fan of Sharon. The fearless vampire killers is my favourite vampire film. What happened to her, her baby and friends was awful. Rest in peace to all.
Breaks my heart you know she tried her hardest to save her son ! She is with her son forever ♾
@@faithinhumanity3390 I agree. Jay tried to protect her too. He in my eyes was a brave and courageous man. I hope they're all at peace.
@@faithinhumanity3390 you are right Susan walkens and Charlie are burning and having it rough down by Satan
Watch Sloan Bella channeled message of Sharon Tate
@@laurenpaterson3475 Think I'm subscribed to her channel. Thanks for the info!
Sharon Tate was so beautiful! It's crazy how people can be influenced by scum to do horrific things. Too many sick people in this world!
I heard she was a really nice person too
@@FantasyGirl365 Damn! You are beautiful, too!
@@TheNothing6 thanks
@@Ephemeral2023 I think he was depicted in the movie "Charlie Says." There's a scene in the movie where a music producer comes to watch Charlie play a song. I knew about Trent Reznor living and recording there.
@@Ephemeral2023 Oh, ok. Thanks for the information!
I was up at the original house in the late '80s or early 90s. I worked for an attorney that lived down the hill and he knew the owner of the house who wanted him to come up and listen to some tapes of a singer he was promoting. I worked at the attorney's house during that time and was really a great job. I went up to the property with him and I was stunned to see that it was a ranch-style house and that the property wasn't sitting on a lot of land like I imagined when I originally heard about the murders. It had beamed ceilings (this would be in the living room cuz that's the only room I was in with my boss and the owner) and I remember how Sharon Tate was found and it freaks me out somewhat. And I saw that there were homes not too far away from this particular property and I was stunned about that because I couldn't understand how people couldn't have heard what was happening. And I also remembered about the fact that Sebring was killed and my boyfriend at the time used to go to his hair salon to get haircuts. If I could recall correctly his Salon was on Fairfax not too far from the Garrett coffeehouse.
A few years ago I was reading Helter Skelter for the first time and got pretty wrapped up in this story. I did a lot of research and found that Jeff Franklin (Full House creator) built his palace on the Cielo Dr property. We went to visit my brother-in-law in LA while I was reading the book, so I was hoping to visit some of the places of the Manson murder story, including a visit up Cielo Dr. Well, we were too busy for me to do so, but my brother-in-law had a birthday party for his wife while we were there. I should mention my brother-in-law is Dave Coulier from Full House. At the party was Jeff Franklin! I was too shy to mention anything to him about my hoped for visit, but how cool would that have been!
Cut it out! 😂
@@uncooldispatch5438 you beat me to it 😂
I appreciate all of that, but feel the need to comment that it's now understood by most that VB's Helter Skelter was imaginative fiction. He came up with the whole idea without input from anyone who would have actually known about it, had it been true.
David seems like hed be a blast to hang out with. His stories are so fascinating and then theres that amazing fun house of his.
Would Love to meet him someday and if luck is on my side perhaps even get invited to your his house.
Dear Universe: align theaters and make this happen!
Thank you for mentioning Roman and Sharon's baby. God bless them all 🙏
It wasn't a baby, it was a fetus.
@@formermpc10 It was a baby.
@@formermpc10 She was past 8 months, almost full term, as in the baby was viable and would have likely been born healthy had she gone into labor at that stage of her pregnancy.
Thank you for taking us along on your adventures. I just love David Oman he is such a sweet person and such a wonderful host. I love the respect you always have for the living as well as the departed. You have a wonderful channel again thank you
I remember this all to well. I was in 7th grade and I can still remember how I felt. It was so shocking and really hard to understand how something so horrible could happen. The day Manson died, was a very good day, too bad it took so long. And you are right, that day changed everything
Susan Atkins who killed Sharon Tate died in 2009. Years back she wrote a book Child of Satan; Child of God. She died of cancer. Can't say I was sad for her.
Awesome video. The level of respect you show for those who have passed is admirable. Much respect to you and the work you do. Thank you so much.
The weed plant on David’s back porch is epic
During the same time period, a neighbor friend of mine was a police officer in LAPD Hollywood division during the late 60's throughout the whole 1970's. He talked about a lot of things. The two things that stick out the most are he was one of the first responding officers to Janis Joplin's body discovery and another time he walked by Charles Manson in jail right after the arrest for this murder. He said that when he saw Charles Manson in jail that "Manson looked like a little shit head trying to appear tough." Also, he felt really bad about seeing Janis dead from addiction. He knew that Janis had a world of love and respect as both a person and a musician.
Thanks for that..those personal stories are always so interesting too.
Creepy bet he felt the evil, poor Janis. 🙏🏻
@@julietrask7497 Yes, I do remember him saying that when he saw Charles Manson in the jail cell that one time that Manson "Looked like a little shit head trying to appear tough." And he really did feel bad for Janis. He knew that Janis had so much love and respect as musician and tragically got locked up with addiction.
This is my take on Manson. I don’t claim to have the psychiatric records or any such knowledge. But. He’s been reared and grew up in the the worst kind of university. The school of hard knocks. And he mastered his manipulative and narcissistic mind control over easily influenced individuals. Some people have magnetic personalities. From my experience they can’t keep it up for very long , though.
But he really did manipulate them to believe everything he said. If that was nowadays. He’d get his bitch ass funny face bitch slapped the world over. It just so happened that a few dissolute lost in life vulnerable people came across him and he woo’d them probably with his streetwise attitude and a little psychological insight, can get you what you want. David koresh has similarities. Only he was smarter. These Netflix documentaries there’s a new one next flicks. But they airbrush so much information out. I’ve seen a few documentaries over the years. But very few bring up. How the female leader of the branch davidians. The 70 odd year old woman. Who apparently had a relationship with vernon. When it was confirmed that she couldn’t have a son. She was going out with gang. For a day shopping. I’m under the impression she was wheelchair bound and suddenly, she slipped out of her wheelchair locks and fell out the back doors.
The only thing I am aware of is that she passed away. 🙏🏼💜.
R. I.P. Then vernon became the spiritual leader. Greed and power are the undoer of men 💜 namaste
Looks like Charles Manson was acting like a chihuahua.
'The Doors' adorned hallway, black-light artwork, handsome big weed plant growing... David seems like a man familiar with psychedelics. My kind of guy. I'd love to see his movie. Hope it finds distribution soon.
@Quill Finnigan Thanks and I hope that my movie comes out this year, David
I was 16 when this happened.
Living in Indiana, I was still terrified.
Sharon Tate’s son would be 52 now.
Connie
Not till September as she was 8 months pregnant on the night of August 8th 1969. I was born in October 69. Somehow I always thought Sharon was expecting a daughter. You mentioned a son?
@@robertkellogg1199 yes a son. His name was chosen as Paul Richard Polanski posthumously 😢
@@robertkellogg1199 She was 8 1/2 months pregnant, she was due to give birth in 2 weeks and even begged her killers to hold her hostage for two weeks so she could have her baby, and then let them kill her. Yes, she had a son and he was posthumously named Paul Richard Polanski, he was buried in her arms.
How devastating and so sad. Susan Atkins killed her and the baby as a command by Manson. Both shall be judged by God. As appointed on to men once to die but after this the judgment. Hebrews 9:27
That’s so so sad 😭
Besides the horror that happened, this area would be beautiful to visit. Thanks for sharing! Seeming a lot of us are still stuck at home :/
They KNOW, they know you're there for them 🙏 that figurine part was so crazy. But it's also amazing what David does, and he has such respect for Sharon & the other victims. I remember seeing him on a TV show of people who share their paranormal experiences & he was talking about the hauntings when he first began experiencing them and feeling that it had something to do with Sharon and the other victims. So it's amazing that you got to speak with him ☺️
I was born in 1961 and remember hearing the details on the news as a kid. You would think a person would be safe in such a pleasant location. But evil is everywhere. RIP beautiful Sharon Tate and baby. 🧡🙏
Me too. I was born in 62. I remember my parents had it on the news. What the hell did I do last week🤔.
I don't think you ever forget horror especially when young.
@@raechelweir8861 Yes, you are right. I remember Robert Kennedy's assassination, the assassination of Martin Luther King, the La Bianca murders by the Manson Family after Sharon Tate, Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick, and many details about the Vietnam War.
Very Well Written & Articulated, Roz!!!
@@rozchristopherson648 ..
Oh yes the La Bianca murders were just as dreadful....chappaquiddick was a travesty..bobby Kennedy virtually got off scott free over that. Those lovely young American soldiers going to war and the treatment they got on returning home was just awful. I think I was nearly four when Kennedy died...that changed America from I have read here in NZ.
I'm 68, and I remember this like it just happened. I remember how scared everyone was, and how scared I was! I was just sure they were coming to San Diego next! Thank you for this post. ✊👍👩🦼
My father was a general practitioner in Chatsworth, Calif., a town right next to Spahn Movie Ranch in Simi Valley, and treated the Manson Family - just the women - at no charge. They baked bread and made leather-fringed pot pouches as payment for their services (mostly for STDs). My dad, a religious man, just enjoyed the debate about Charlie and Jesus Christ. Coooo-Coooo, baby! My sister met Charlie at Topanga Plaza (for those who know the area); he invited her to smoke pot at the ranch. Finally, my family and friends rode horses at Spahn ALL. THE. TIME. I don’t remember anyone (guides or employees) from our rides, but it’s still weird to think of my family’s minor brushes with the whole Manson situation.
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Cool story!
Wow I love this!
Wow
Thank you grimmlife for covering this and a big thanks to David Oman for opening up his home for us to see!!!
I remember that day completely because my father died in a traffic accident that same day. I remember how we boys were watching TV the next Saturday morning, and our aunt came to see my mother and when she left, she stopped by me and my brothers. I don't know why, but while watching the TV news about Sharon Tate, she suddenly told us: "You don't have a father anymore" .. I don't know what she meant by that, but at least it didn't make us feel any better.
I asked about this in chat last week and you said "stay tuned". I love it, always down for a vlog at David's house! Also, thank you for getting the telephone pole correct. Most people don't realize it was moved from one side of the street to the other.
Imagine if that whole house and property was booby trapped. Sharon and her friends would have kicked some Manson ass.
Loved this video! I watch anything/everything Manson related because I also have a Grimm fascination with the whole story. The views in this video are absolutely gorgeous as well. This was awesome! Thanks Michael and Jessica for taking us along!
That is so awesome that you got to experience the Oman house! Keep up the great work!
Don't be so naive!!!
this video is cursed
Look like dope plants on the balcony
Would you mind telling me what camera you are using in this video. It looks really good.
I have always been fascinated by the Manson case and you are right it did “ change the world “ it exposed evil that people had never seen before. You walking up the road the road all those people went up to meet their demise was creepy. This also showed the beauty of that area in California, TY for great video.
"Fresh herbs" growing happily on the terrace. 😎
I was looking to see if anyone noticed it too 👀 😁
Jane’s sunbathing for health issues 😂😂😂😂
I was born the morning of 08 Aug 1969. For the longest time, I was angry to have my first day of life associated with Manson. As I grew older and matured, I realized the link I share with Sharon. Now I embrace it and the more I opened my mind, the more I got in touch with my sixth sense. As a child, I was never a Beatles or Beach Boys fan, nor did I care much for The Mamas & The Papas--which angered a lot of people, but I couldn't put my finger on why. I was never an Angela Landsbury fan, either. And I was lukewarm toward Dean Martin for many years. Ironically, I LOVE Barbara Lewis, and I have from the moment I heard her sing, but I couldn't explain why. Years later, when the internet exploded, I did research and boy was I blown away. I learned that Barbara was one of Sharon's bestest friends. I learned the association of all the other aforementioned people. Here's the weirdest part of all, I looked at the time of my birth, and I arrived into this world at almost the exact moment The Beatles were taking the famous Abbey Road picture. It does not get weirder than that.
What's Angela Lansbury's connection?
When you were born they were probaly getting stabbed to death lol
you need help
So many theories….. I’m intrigued to know the Angela Lansbury connection though. Perhaps they didn’t like her homespun, colloquial ways of always getting the best of the bad guys 👌🧐🤓😎🙏🏼
The whole Tate/La Bianca/Manson story is itself literally weirder than the Beatles at Abbey Road at the moment of your birth.
Another great one, for sure. I was always fascinated about this case. Reading about it is one thing, actually seeing it is something else. How did you come upon that guy (Omman?) whose house you toured? He is quite a character with an interesting house/story as well. Yes, the views are quite astounding all over Southern California. I lived there for 22 years and really miss it a lot. Strange connection to the caretaker of the Tate house, William Garretson. I’m a truck driver leased to (owner operator ) a company based in Columbus, Ohio. My boss once asked me if I knew much about the Manson case. I said I did and he asked me if I knew who William Garretson was. I said I did and he told me that he used to drive for us a few years back. He then said that William told him that he was there on the property the night of the murders because he was the caretaker. He then said, “I thought he was bullshitting me so I googled his name. Sure as shit, there he was!”
That was great to have included Oman's house.❤
That guy is chill as hell.
Thank goodness for your videos! The high pollen count is triggering my asthma and my allergies are awful so not getting out much. Your videos are keeping me sane and honestly I am hooked on them. You are a wonderful storyteller and the story is told with the utmost respect. Keep up the great work!
You’re so right about this crime changing the world. It robbed us of any innocence we had left, as a nation, IMO. Good job! Thank you!
Yes, very true. I remember when the Manson murders happened and it really did change the way we viewed life. And, I remember when President Kennedy was shot. Another horrible, senseless crime that changed our lives forever.
Oh please, the whole Manson cult thing was a deflection to cover up the canyons degeneracy, the murders (deplorable as they were) weren't senseless they were payback for a bum drug deal of which two of the murdered were front and centre, Sebrings hair empire was a front for his brother supplying cocaine to Hollywood stars, no-one deserved the brutality of that night but please lets stop with the 'little innocents' BS, Cielo Drive was a hub of shady goings on and it came back to bite hard, as for the hillside kook and his fellow kook guests with all their 'experiences' and meltdowns, well colour me shocked
@@npc3po301 I guess for every story there is a wacky conspiracy theory.
@@blobgooll9395 And for every wacky conspiracy theory there's either a gatekeeper who benefits from the official line or a normy who daren't do their own research for fear of real life invading their cosy paradigm
@@npc3po301 visiting wacky conspiracy websites is not "education"
My boyfriend took me here since I’m fascinated with cults, murders etc
We obviously didn’t drive up there but it was around 8:30 pm we were at the beginning of the driveway and I can just feel sadness and dark energy as well
It was a crazy feeling
Seeing where Valentino used to live was awesome. I’ve always been a fan of his. Didn’t know it was near the Tate house. So cool.
I’ve watched a few of your videos now and I gotta say your content is amazing. Great insight and to the point with decent backstory for understanding. One of my new favourite channels. I hope you get millions of subs Grimm!
Would like to echo the sentiments of your guest in the video and say I love your take on locations and history,
Love and respect from across the pond 🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼❤️
OMG!! 1:37 Looks exactly as it did in the beginning of the movie Helter Skelter. I remember seeing the movie and it scared the crap out of me knowing there's people like this in this world. Great stuff guys.
Me too
I was 3 years old when these killings took place. At that time I was living just over the hill, not too far away in the Westchester area. Of course being 3 years old I don't remember anything about it. My parents did a really good job keeping both my younger brother and I sheltered from these events (not that I would have understood them anyway). My mother later told me that things didn't get really scary for both her and my Dad until the LaBianca killings. That's when they told me they started to really feel a since of panic and urgency. By 1970, my Dad had accepted another job and had moved us from the Los Angeles area to the small mountain community of Tehachapi (Thanks Dad). I didn't start learning about the murders until decades later. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Wait? We were down there at that time!"
Been up there a few times. Going at night has such a heavy energy. I just imagine Tex, Patti and and Adkins walking up that switchback road at night.
and Kasabian.
I remember seeing David on Ghost Adventures. Great video.
@Lala, here is my channel so you can see my own videos shot here without Zaks Drama rage... www.UA-cam.com/davidoman David
Great work Michael. Videos are to the point, factual and don’t include boring padding. Good stuff!
What a joy all the way around. So tastefully done! And I must make mention of this: I've never seen David Oman so relaxed, so confident and such a pleasure to be around. I've watched him in so many vids and shows, and he's def. a changed man. He's matured and mellowed and well, it's cool to see. He used to be wound a little tight. But....so was I....many moons ago. God Bless us all.
I was 10 years old living in Delaware when I learned about the murders. I'm 65 now, living in California and this still haunts me! This is something you can never forget! I pray that all 8 of these dear souls are resting in peace!
Same here, including California I was also 10 years old and the daily news New York City always had loud headlines about it
This is very well done, informative and respectful.
Love that you got to hang out with David Oman! Love his house plants! Lol
What's with these rich people always buying these iconic properties and then demolishing,gutting, or outright destroying them to build some ugly mansion on? Is that a thing to do when you're rich? Destroy history and build some awful looking monstrosity over it?
@Ameretsu Shidori The house was bought in 1993 by Harvey Weintraub and he tore the house down in 1994 to build, 'Casa Bella' on the property and then finally sold it in 2006 I do believe, completely unfinished and the new owner went to town on it. I agree with your thoughts, the original house was much more quaint compared to what is now there. That is LA in a nut shell...Little of the past remains.
Iconic ? Iconic for the brutal slaughters. Would you live in that house. I don’t give one hoot that he tore that down.
Roman Christianity have done this shit
Early American settlers have done this shit literally all of humanity is build upon history..
@@getlauriekor Well all things considered look at what youtube channel you're on. Not everyone wants to tour Gettysburg and watch civil war reenactments or visit the Liberty Bell. Some of us find the grim side of history just as fascinating. Whether something good or bad happened at a location it's the idea that a historic event took place there that changed things forever and it should be preserved in some format.
Poor people have bad taste too
You did an awesome job making this video. It's always such a sad story, but I always wonder why we want to know more? I like watching videos of David Oman's house too. It's such a beautiful place, but scary at the same time. I have always wondered if any of his neighbors have had some of the same experience? I couldn't imagine what it must of been like when the maid 1st found them. I probably would have had nightmares for the rest of my life.
Thank you for sharing this with us.
@Bonnie Brown, Well here is my channel all recorded here at my house, take a look at my channel, I just posted 6 videos from the same night in November of last year www.UA-cam.com/davidoman Thanks, David Oman
This is cool, thank you for taking us along!!
Thank you for including Paul Richard Tate-Polaski, in the death count of Manson's family! The news always said,, "The 5 Tate victims!"
Baby Paul was a victim too! Sharon was 8 & 1/2 months and had she given birth that day in 1969, Paul would have lived.
I had just turned 13 & lived with my parents in Philadelphia. My parents always watched the news during dinner & this was long before we had remotes for the TV so you had to go to the set to change the volume, channel, or to turn it off.
We had started to eat & the news came on about Sharon Tate & thevmurders. My dad ran to change the channel but every channel had it on. We ate dinner with no TV.
But that was enough to peek my interest!! I have a small black & white TV in my room, so I would wait till the 11 PM news and watched as that story unfolded. The next night I heard my dad say to my mom, "There was 2 more murders in Los Angeles. Same weird stuff so we will leave the TV off!"
I finished my dinner and said I was reading a book and wanted to get back to it, so could I leave the table?
They said yes. My TV had headphones with it and I watched a different channel's report on both murder scenes.
When the Manson family was arrested and Susan Atkins later told her jail cell friend that she had done those murders, I would always watch the news at 11 PM, if I missed the dinner news.
I did a report for my English class in 10th grade, on the Tate-LaBianca murders. Our English classes were done with spooky things. So we had books about haunted places & murders, etc.
The school had a glass exterior, no windows that opened except the fire escape windows on either end of the 3 floors.
The hallways were by the windows & the interior classroom had windows but non opened. There were 2 classroom doors that faced each other and in between was a door to a smaller classroom. No windows at all. The English teacher was great. He had a real coffin in his classroom! It was great when you got there in time to grab a seat in the coffin. He believed in hauntings & talked about feeling the presence of people in places he had traveled.
He was the one who told us about Storesbury's Mansion--Whitemarsh! It was a mansion built by Stotesbury's for his wife. They later sold the estate to a chemical mfering company. The workers got very spoiled by things they saw there!
So a bunch of us went up there during the dsytime. The estate had no house s around it and a long driveway so we could see if someone was driving or walking towardscus. (As in the police!)
The place was haunted. There were certain rooms that when you walked in, you could feel the presence of the Stotesbury's!!
There was a second mansion built called Lynnehurst Manson, also abandoned! We went there at night and brought a tape recorder and Led Zepplin's Houses of the Holy was echoing through the house.
One night it was myself, my friend Chrissy, her boyfriend Jimmy, & my boyfriend Denny. We had a blanket on the lawn and the guys had gone to the wooded area to the left of the house as you faced it. Chrissy & I were sitting when I suddenly felt a breeze. The sounds of crickets & an owl suddenly stopped.
It was also a full moon, so the house was very lit up.
No one walked to the mansion because the road & driveway was about"5 miles. We knew we were the only people there as we got there just prior to sunset and there were no other cars.
I heard a noise and looked up to the 2nd floor. I saw a figure in the window. It opened the window.
I remember telling Chrissy that the guys had gotten to the 2nd floor & opened the window to scare us.
We both stared at the figure in the window & saw no facial features, just a white face! At that second, both guys came from the woods! There had been no time for them to go from the 2nd floor middle of the mansion to the woods.
As I glanced back to the window, it slammed shut!
Usain Bolt could not have run faster than Chrissy & I. The guys couldn't catch up until we got to the car.
There are videos of both mansions on you tube. Just be sure to add Whitemarsh Hall to Stotesbury's Mansion or you get the catering place in center city Philly!!
Whitemarsh was torn down & town homes now sit on what had been a massive estste. Last I heard, Lynnehurst was still.standing and now has guards with dogs.
Total, Sharon Tate's sister, Debra, lives & works in California. She gets on line petitioned signed by people every time one of Manson's followers is granted parole. She then takes the petitions to the CA governor and the governor overrides the parole board.
All of them were given a death sentence. Later changer to life without parole, but they still get parole hearings!
One of his followers, Bobby Beausolei, looked in the eyes of the parole board and grinned at them. He then said, "Y'all better hope I never get out!"
Bobby, along with Susan Atkins, & Charlie Manson, hand gone to the home of music teacher, Gary Hinman. They tortured him for a few days before they killed him! Manson had used a sword to cut off Hinman's ear.
They are all into their 70's. Manson & Atkins are dead.
Baby Paul never was able to breathe the air. Sharon pleaded for the babies life. She was slaughtered anyway.
Roman Polanski was over in Poland when he got the call. He had just finished a movie had had made and was headed back to 10050 Cielo Drive. He was taking a few months off to be with Sharon & their child when he or she finally arrived.
Sharon had said that the on!y thing she ever wanted to do, was to hold her baby in her arms! Paul would be 53 years old in August!
Roman saw to it that Sharon held baby Paul for all eternity. He is buried in her arms.
I can only imagine that Sharon & the others are still around that land. Such a beautiful lady, and would probably been in movie a for decades to come had her life not been snuffed out by sick individuals for their own pleasure!
I have been fascinated with the Manson murders since I was a kid in the 70s. Thank you for doing this video. You ghouls RULE!
Thank you Christopher 🎃
@Trey Stephens I'm not sure I understand what you mean. How is he overrated?
@Trey Stephens I totally agree with you about him being evil..... but forgetting about him would also mean forgetting about his victims.
@Trey Stephens People only care about Sharon Tate? I can only assume you are joking.
@Trey Stephens I heard he was a real jerk.
Sharon Tate deserved a whole full life with her baby Paul 🥺 may they all Rest In Peace 🙏🏽
Tate was great on The Beverly Hillbillies. Such a beautiful young starlet.
So beautiful and talented!❤
How was she great on the Lil role she had on the Beverly hillbillies her true acting skills came later my my
I remember when I was a kid..there were a lot of beautiful ladies on The Beverly Hillbillies. One day, I remember my parents saying "oh that one..is really beautiful!" They had noticed her before she became a big star. By the time of the crime, we lived in Kansas..and people were scared..that far away!
That was great! Love your channel. Thanks 😃❤️🌏🪐🍀🌕🙏🐝🦋👣🇦🇺🦉🏡❤️🌈👣🌴
I love the respectful way that you covered this story. I think the Oman house is really cool also. I saw that Ghost Adventures episode. I think Zak can be a big PITA but I definitely got a self centered vibe from Oman.
Changed the innocence and free love of the community of Laurel Canyon
Hey Grimmlifecollective this is definately one of your best uploads . awesome stuff and David Oman seems like the most laid back dude EVER
It was so nice seeing yours and David's interaction and hearing of your joys about living there in Cali. Sure there's some cons but clearly there are pros. Such a devastating part of California history. But also world wide definitely was effected aswell. Especially back then when they weren't as aware of evil that hides in the shadows as much as we do today
It " IS BEAUTIFUL and PEACEFUL"LOVE the tour and stories
PRICELESS!!!beautiful homes & location THANK YOU 😊
Great video. Years ago, me and my ex gf drove by Cielo drive and walked up to that gate to check it out. It was very overwhelming knowing what kind of horror happened that night. We walked past David Oman house and saw him pull in and he said hi to us.
@Jason Alba, I remember that, how the Hell are you guys. Nice to see that you still remember your visit up here. Thanks for mentioning it. Take care David
@@davidoman It doesnt seem like you do, but do others who live around that area get fed up by the visitors because of what happened in 69?
@@Zeke1379 Some do and some don't.
My new favorite channel. For the last week, I've binge-watched every video. Loved the Planet of the Apes one, and this one is a banger too. I live close to here as well.
I really enjoy watching this video. Rip Sharon and the other victims.
This guy really kept me intrigued. Truly enjoyed this episode 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✅✅✅✅
You went to my friend David's house?!? Can't wait to see.. watching now!!
The doors hallway was amazing!
The murders happened a couple weeks after the first moon landing and nearly two month before the '69 draft lottery. I still remember where I was when I first heard of the Cielo drive murders. I remember a lot of things from the 60's.
The weed plants are a nice touch!.
RIP Sharon and the other victims. I've been fascinated by David's story since around the time of the Ghost Hunters episode, in part because of the Manson murders. Its always intriguing to listen to him speak about these things that he's experienced.
@Finishin.My.Coffee Well, Thanks for the mention, I hope that my story and continued experiences here at my house are of interest and entertaining as well. I hope you've seen my channel too. Thanks, David
@@davidoman Thank you for opening your home and life. I couldn't blame you if you just wanted privacy but still, thank you for doing this.
Ghost adventures it was
I ❤ you from the first show I ever saw you David. I can feel what a good guy you are. This was nice of you. Shalom 🙂
@@tammybrown4901 Ghost Adventures went there, but Ghost Hunters was the first of the two to visit the house.
I love that Oman house guy loves the nature :) ❤️❤️❤️
Epic video! My husband & I went to California on our honeymoon in 2016 & *almost* visited the Oman House! Kicking myself now for deciding against it-that just means we have to go back!
Im SO glad you met up with David Oman! Awesome material as always! Its a shame they tore the house down, and sadly the LaBianca house might suffer the same fate as Im sure the land is worth much more than the houses these days.I believe tobacco heiress Doris Duke lived at the Falcons Lair at one time too
PS Just for those who don't know and might be interested, the Nine Inch Nails video for "Gave Up" was filmed at 10050 Cielo Drive, ironically featuring Marilyn Manson. Another great video...Thanks again Happy Halloween! : )
@Cave Man, That makes 2 of us. I had just seen the Road House blues video that Michael shot and was like, he is one Hell of a vlogger, I like his show and would like to meet him and have him visit sometime, 2 weeks later, I got a message from him and the next thing I know he's coming over. I had a blast having The Grime Life Collective visit. If you want to check out my ghost videos here's my channel www.UA-cam.com/davidoman Thanks David
@@davidoman Greetings from Canada sir! : ) Its an honor to get a message from you! I just knew you guys would hit it off, as a "meeting of the minds" can be a magical thing. At the beginning of the video I was even thinking " Too bad he couldnt meet David Oman...hes right there!" What a nice surprise! Ive heard stories about you and your house for years, and while LA is still on my bucket list, I look forward to delving deeper with these videos.. You have a new sub. Thanks for the msg, and best wishes from Canada! : )
@@caveman3021 Well Thanks Cave Man! I have a few friends from the Great White North...Take a look at my book, and get in touch if you make it down South to LA. Ghosts of Cielo Drive, GhostsofCieloDrive.com. Thanks again, David
This vid was absolutely awesome ,Mike! And I agree , the view is nice! Great content!
Awesome video love the David Oman story looking forward to his movie
@Darren Chatton, Thank you for saying so, here's my channel to see more of the goings-on here at #TheOmanHouse www.UA-cam.com/davidoman David
I started to feel a weird vibe when you first showed the property, undeniably so! Creeeeepy
Love all your videos keep up the good work edd here from South Carolina
Any new videos
I have a real love for Sharon and all the others taken from us back in 1969 by those bugs, sign all the petitions for their paroles to be denied for Sharon's sister Deb and the memory of their other siblings. Thanks for making this video, may God keep them all well in His Kingdom.
Watch Sloan Bella’s channeling of Sharon tate. Very interesting
@@laurenpaterson3475 Thanks I will
Really enjoyed this upload and so glad I found your channel. Loved the Killer Klowns and Lost Boys vids too, not to mention how jealous I am of David's 'Doors' poster collection here! Keep up the good work guys. You definitely need your own Netflix series. Best wishes from the UK.