I was present years ago when Squeaky Fromme was captured after her escape from Alderson prison and brought to the federal courthouse for arraignment. She wanted to know if she had to pledge allegiance to the flag and other things like that. And she was so detached. She kept talking about saving redwood trees and was even reading a pamphlet as she was taken away. It was an odd day in court.
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Wonder if Martha Stewart would have thought she would be in the same prison
Just when I thought I’d seen practically every location you show us the squeaky pole. Incredible and to think it’s still standing over 50 years later and the cement hasn’t been vandalised after all those years. Mind blowing. Thank you so much for this video it’s a gem. 👏🏽
Thank You for doing this video! I was 9 when Sharon Tate and her baby and her friends were murdered. My mother talked about it for years. Its hard to not think about it to this day.
I worked with a guy that had stayed on the ranch in his young adult years. Every time he told the stories they we’re always the same and never changed. Very interesting stories too the way they were expressed was like it had happened yesterday
It's very interesting how those crazy girls' narrative so closely resembles the new crazy left wing mob. You could put their manifesto side-by-side and it would look very very similar.
Squeaky was looking for external validation because her father's coldness destroyed her self esteem. Made her vulnerable to manipulation. What's most bizarre is that she still appears to be under Manson's influence.
You hit another home run with this video. I learned so much, I’m in downtown Los Angeles every weekend and walk pass these streets and places you showed in this video never knowing I was walking by historic places.
You left me craving more of these videos!!! Very interesting indeed! I wasn’t born until 1983, but this has always been something I wanted to learn more about. Please continue this as a series of some sort.
Love all these fascinating you tube videos about Manson and his girls.They sound like angels when they sing,so hard to achieve when not benefitting from a studio.
It’s amazing how Manson was able to manipulate these girls and so many other. Disturbing and at the same time fascinating .thank you for posting great stuff as always
Women are desperate to follow a strong male leader. It’s not that difficult to see how Manson did what he did. It would be easy for a Manson figure to do exactly the same thing today, particularly as there’s a lack of strong male leaders in many areas and arenas now.
Love seeing the matching photos from then and now, and the old news clips. I grew up in the 70s, can't get enough of Manson and his 'family' lol Great research you do, love you guys and this channel 😘💕✌️
So interesting. I thought I’ve seen everything about the Manson family, but you shown us something different. I love seeing the actual places where things occurred. Thanks!
Wow, you GriMMs find the BEST curiosities... Who would have known there was a "Squeaky Pole", in LA, and the Manson Family points of interest are so telling of a time gone by.... Thanks, GriMMs for another Grand episode..... :^)""""""""
Ive studied the Manson Family inside and out that I had nightmares, one where I was walking into a funeral home and I walked up to a casket with a woman with long blond hair and she was pregnant and knives were sticking out of her belly, I turned around and all the attendees were dressed in black hooded capes and then all the sudden knives came popping out of there hands and one of them said your next pig, Thank goodness I woke up but during my study with them I knew each member like I lived with them but Grimmlife I didnt know this about Squeaky Fromme, thank you, you and your wife really get to details of a story, you have me enthralled in your stories. Thanks for covering this one and finding these details and I thought I knew everything about the Manson Family. We were going to go vosot the Sharon Tate home but after that dream I skipped it now Im kicking myself because they tore it down in the 90's. Keep up this excellent work, by far the best youtube channel on here.
Oh I remember this lady , she is still kind of brainwashed by him all these years later. Thanks for these videos. I’m from the UK 🇬🇧 so it’s amazing to hear about all these stories I’ve never heard of ❤️ you research so well xx
Love all your videos! Every aspect of the Manson story is fascinating. I've watched every interview and every time i can feel myself getting drawn in. I can see how the girls, and the guys became who they became under his influence. Despite what he did or what he didnt do i believe him to be one of the smartest and least understood figures of his generation
Another great video! It struck me, watching it, how young Squeaky and the other girls were. And when the reporter was interviewing them they really seemed to believe that they were doing something good. They thought Manson and the others on trial were going to get out again and life was just going to continue. It would be interesting to talk with them today.
I was 2 years old when the Manson murders happened. I remember growing up and hearing about it on the news. Hearing my family talk about it once in awhile. Every time they saw that Manson was going to court or whatever. Totally insane. What he had those people do to Sharon Tate and the other people is just horrific. Thank you for doing this video and sharing it with us. You put such research into everything. You're amazing
He did not tell them to do it. They did in there minds what they wanted to do. He asked them individually “would you kill for me and face consequences?” They said yeah. He didn’t know Tex chose that house. He was in San Diego that night for getting a traffic ticket but Tex Watson chose her house. He did say he knew Sharon and seen her a couple of times at Denise’s and Elvis house. His story stayed the same after many years even the interviews but how many times did they change there story to what they did to those poor innocent people. They blamed Charles then they blamed Tex for the killings and then they changed to who they killed and didn’t kill. Steven parent sister made a point saying “Charles wasn’t there when the murders took place. He did not hold the gun to Susan, Patricia, Leslie or Tex’s head ordering them to kill them”. They knew what they were doing whether if it was drugs or no drugs. He knew Leno because Leno knew a guy named Frankie and he did ask where is Frankie to Leno but other then that Tex Watson and the girls killed them. They are just pointing fingers to other people for there own actions. Yes Charles may have been crazy in his own mind but he knows damn well where he was and what he was doing. It was not the only time they first killed. Bobby beausoleil killed Gary hinman for his Volkswagen and the Manson family killed Donald “Shorty” Shea because they thought he was an informant with the police after the Tate-Labianca murders. All those years the Manson girls never said sorry to the victims families. Paul Tate Sharon Tate’s father saw an interview of Susan Atkins in the 1980s an interviewer asked her “would you give out the words to say I’m sorry to the victims families?” Her response was “you ask hard questions”.. whats so hard about saying there truly sorry for what they have done. Several members of the Manson family did say that the Tate-Labianca murders was a way to get Bobby beausoleil out of prison to make it like it’s a black war. RIP to all the victims.
@@BlackDahlia26 He was not in San Diego that night getting a traffic ticket. That was earlier. He returned to the ranch before evening with Stephanie Schram, having been in San Diego. Also, you'd have to be out of your mind to trust Manson when he told Hard Copy that he'd met Sharon at the homes of Dennis Wilson or Elvis Presley, let alone that Tex chose the Tate house with no input from Manson. But believe what you want.
@@zebrastreet9993 yes everybody believes that Manson was crazy but you don’t get it either. I watched interviews, I watched parole hearings. I know what they kept doing to get out. People believing killers is just sick. Those girls and Tex Watson are monsters no matter what. You can believe what you want to hear. He does admit to some things he did but those girls keep changing there stories. Diane Lake wrote in her memoir he did meet Dennis Wilson and Dennis Wilson did say they met when he picked up 2 young women at sunset boulevard.
Kaleen Kee I’m not that interested in your overall view of the crimes. Everyone has an opinion, no matter how many interviews or parole hearings we watch or read. I was mostly just correcting your error about Manson not being present at the ranch on the evening of the Cielo murders. He was there, even by his own admission. Manson said a lot of shit in his interviews. Sure, some truth is in there but also a lot of horseshit. When he claimed to have met Sharon Tate, personally it is my opinion he is speaking in a riddle, using a metaphor. In other words, he didn’t literally mean Sharon. He meant Hollywood. People in the entertainment industry. That is the way he talked sometimes. But that is just my read of it. I also think he spewed plenty of nonsense during interviews because he had no love for the media and liked to mess with them. Taking him literally with stuff like that is a mistake. But whatever.
@@zebrastreet9993 I was talking about him not being at the Tate house. I didn’t care what he did at the ranch. Yes he did sound insane like I mentioned earlier. It don’t matter if he was in San Diego or at the ranch. A lot of people claim he was there but as a matter of fact he wasn’t. They all were insane that night. It’s nobody else fault but the ones who did the killing. Have a good day.
The last picture of the girls with the shaven heads and x in their foreheads, is super creepy. I read Helter Skelter when I was in 7th grade and it scared the shit out of me... Nothing like the Manson family before or since, has terrified so many people...imho of course.. Awesome video,I hope you do a whole Manson series that would rock !
Deb17 I was very young when the murders happened. What's fascinating is the devotion the girls had to Manson to the extent of shaving their heads.I do think that lynette squeaky fromme really did have an incredible fragile beauty when she was young, she was Not involved in the killings.
@@johndean4765 I think she was a misguided lost soul. A very loyal person. When I see the footage of her interviews etc at the time, she actually seems like a sweet person and outgoing and friendly. Likeable. I am sure Charlie never would of asked her to go because frankly I don't think she would have had it in her to kill. Her father treated her crappy and I think Charlie showing her love was so foreign to her, that she was devoted to him forever. Sad she couldn't see through it and break away. I was 3 when this happened.
I adore/adored Sharon Tate. I grew up watching her films and such. She died before I was born,but still loved her. And watched everything about the trial and case because of that. Thank you for showing something I have never seen. Blessed Be.
@@jenniferwise8515 That is NOT true. I adore Sharon Tate as well. She was known as a very sweet person and had a lot of friends. Came from a good family. That is such a stupid rumor started by people who were freaked out about the murders and how such a thing could happen to innocent people. No one could make sense of it. Btw, check out the documentary about Jay Sebring. It's really good. It's here on youtube.
@@jenniferwise8515 it doesnt matter because being a satanist is no different than being a leprechaun; neither is a real thing, anyone could call themselves that but still not a real thing. It is impossible for anything to violate our laws of cause and effect. Magic, religion, the occult is all bs, has never happened and cant happen.
My man, love your videos, you have a way of coming across very honest, sincere and mindful of the "survivors". I love the way you combine the historical footage along with the narrative of you two. I understand many of your viewers are younger and are quite possibly learning about these issues for the first time, but I am much older (60)and many of your videos take me down memory lane. Thanks to the both of you, and continued success with your channel. 🖖
Nicely edited, great documentation of history. A huge piece of 20 century Southern California history that has yet to be fully analyzed. Good work, as usual.
Grew up in Westchester, went to Westchester High. When I found out that Patricia Krenwrinkle went to the same high school I was at, I got chills! And now to know that another member has ties to Weschester, I got chills again!
I love how you go back to the acual places and explain in a wonderful way. As years passed and these girls grew I wonder if their thoughts changed of him or same thoughts as when they was younger. Thank U both. Love the videos.
A former classmate said once, he observed Lynette casually pushing a stapler into her arm, making it bleed. Guess that was a precursor to what troubled kids of today do in cutting themselves.
I have such a strong caring for the memories of all the victims of the Manson Family and have talked a couple of times with Sharon Tate's sister Deb, such a together and lovely lady considering what she had to go through. Anyhow except for my love of history I would have nothing to do with any of the Family members in any fashion. One day when trying to research more online regarding Sharon Tate, I came across the most horrible pictures of Sharon at the crime scene, hope I never see those pictures again, yet seeing them makes me totally detest the Family fully, no quarter from me. Have a great weekend Michael and Jess-Dan-Vancouver BC.
I've only seen a few pics of his home over the years and have never seen any pics of the inside, I always wondered what it looked like. Scott Michaels Six Degrees of Helter Skelter did a interview with the owner, it has quite the History. I absolutely love you guys UA-cam channel, you go to all the places I would love to see ,I look forward to every new one. So keep up the good work and thanks again for making a old lady 😃 smile.
So i’ve been like religiously watching your channel lately & the past few days i’ve been on a manson kick in general so it’s crazy that you posted this today!!
I love how you presented the video; great stuff. I visited Corcoran CA several times and low key looked for any Manson Family people while he was incarcerated there. I also wrote Manson once asking for an interview for a documentary, but he send my letter back to me unanswered.
@@Lucy-ek6ne he could read. It's been stated many times that shortly before he stated recruiting people into a family, he read Dale Carnegie book "How to win friends and influence people"
I am shocked that she was paroled. I figured an attempt on a presidents life would land her in prison for life. Great video; lots of info and footage I have never seen.
hinckley shot a president and several others with EXPLODING bullets, none of the victims were ever the same and one eventually died from the injuries but after yrs of living in pleasant facilities and not obeying orders to stop writing to jody foster, the dangerous nutcase is out and playing concerts...
The gun was never loaded. She was not about to do harm to the president at all. Which is why she was released in the end. She should have tried to make a point about the dammage to the planet in that way thou.
Awesome vid. Very cool of you to take the time to go to these places. I never heard of the "Squeaky Pole"... I'm gonna visit it next time I'm in LA, that's for sure.
You have a first amendment right to film publicly, from public locations. You're very respectful to places when filming but never forget, you don't need to ask permission. The right was granted to you by the blood and sacrifice of fallen heroes.
Agree. Trust but verify: I know you are always so courteous and polite with everyone, and want to acknowledge their wishes and comfort level, but if you want to film something from a public sidewalk or other public property - as I understand it - you can film anything or anyone you can see from a public space, even if what you are filming from public is a private space. Nor do you need anyone's permission to film them in public with no expectation of privacy (ask the paparazzi!).
A right but in this day and age of school shootings and child abductions it is understandable that schools do not want people taking pictures or video.
I have to stop the video half way through just to tell you, holy shit dude. you keep surprising us with such great videos. well made, well thought out, well edited. all these clips we didnt even know existed. hell yea dude. okay continuing now lol
Even though I grew up with a stepfather, I never had a father because this bastard beat me shitless, and also, my mom hardly ever gave me attention. Now that I'm older and thousands of miles from her, she's hoping I'd come home someday but it's not possible hopefully. I can relate to squeaky but I grew up perfectly fine and with an open mind that didn't turn out like hers.
I'd like to see an interview during current era with the girls who were singing with their hands out talking about how a big revolution is coming ..... Obviously they're all real young , WHEN did they think " Perhaps I should move on and get an apartment or start a family ". Surely at least one made something of themselves
Thank you for the video! Very interesting, especially when no one else really talks about the lives before they joined that terrifying group! Btw loving your shirt!
Another video! You are both working so hard and i APPRECIATE your content so much! I learn something from every video and this one WOW its been so long since Manson and it will never fail to give me shivers down my neck! 🎃👻🦇🕸🕷🎃
She did a podcast interview a year or two ago. You can find a copy here on UA-cam. To promote her book. She still praised Charlie unrepentant about that. BUT is no longer a major part of what she's about. From the podcast he seems a very cool old flower power hippie type. Sweet downright loveable . You can't imagine that she was once sitting at Sphan movie ranch post trial on camera toting rifles and bullet belts preaching revolutionary uprising with Sandra Good at her side. Redheads and their passions gotta love them.. lol
By far my favorite series on this channel...love the channel..but the way you discuss the subject I get pulled in...my favorite of the uploads was the one where you went down to the little half cave...you added a song song by the mason girls that was really creepy..is that particular light pole with squeakys name historically saved because of how long it's been there...I'm talking even before her name was written..
The whole Helter Skelter /Manson family murders was and still is so bizarre. I was a young kid at the time of the Tate-LaBianca murders. I remember my parents and other grown ups talking about it all the time. I was like 'What is Helter Skelter and Charles Manson?"
Interesting video, Michael. Lynette SQUEAKY Fromme seems to still be taken with Manson. At least it appears that way in the clip from the interview. Cults are dangerous. I have talked to many that have been sucked into their web of deceit.
Outstanding one again!!!!!!!😀😀 ......By the way....how about the Virginia Rappe And Fatty Arbuckle Case.........or the Johnny Stompanato homicide..... or nearly anything thats in the Book "Hollywood Babylon" by Kenneth Anger....(who did the Film "Lucifer Rising" with Bobby Beausoleil of the Manson Family.....) Bobby Beausoleil also wrote the soundtrack........... Thank you again👍👍👍
Very strange, I've been watching a lot of Manson videos lately and then a new one of yours pops up. As usual your contents is fascinating and well researched - the Squeaky Pole; amazing. I'm reading a book at the moment called Chaos: The Truth About the Manson Murders; I recommend it highly if you haven't read it. Keep up the great work, respect to you and Jessica.
Poor little Lynnette Fromme. When Charlie read what was written all over her face and told her that her father had thrown her out it so blew her mind. After months of mind washing he actually had her believing that he could breathe life into dead things.
Always been fascinated by the Manson saga since the time it happened. I was 13 at the time and have read so many different books on the subject. I love your videos because seeing the actual places gives it more reality. I'm currently reading a book that takes a completely different direction than the others I've read - and I've read many. It makes you re-think what you've always known from the many books out there - or at least what you thought you knew. The corruption of the trial. Charlie's mob connections. His connection to the Beach Boys was deeper than we've been told. It goes into the characters residing at the Tate house. They were not sweet and innocent people by any means. They, of course, didn't deserve to die, but the drug allegations the press and prosecution tried to suppress was very real. The book digs deeply into each of the characters involved and how much of what we've "known" just doesn't add up. Bugliosi was made famous, but the way he conducted the trial was less than stellar with many facts being left out. It's called "Now Is The Only Thing That's Real: A re-examination of the Manson murders, motives and mythos" by Neal Sanders. Definitely worth a read. www.amazon.com/Only-Thing-Thats-Real-re-examination-ebook/dp/B077D13GWJ
It's written by Tom o Neil...some intreasting film on Joe Rogan experience Channel with him talking about it and the inconsistencies. Manson they saying was part of MK ultra mind control CIA project to defame the hippy movement
@@satka2mau487 If you enjoyed O'Neil's book, you will love the one I posted. It covers MK and many many other things. Covers a lot of other corruption as well.
I was just thinking the other day that this would make a great story for you two to do. No one could do this better than yall. I was right, great video.
I thought it was Squeak because her name is fromme which is French for cheese, mice like cheese and mice squeak 🤷🏼♀️ you learn something new every day.
I'm glad to see you're branching out into other topic areas than spooky Halloween and the like. You do a great job presenting, narrating, and videoing your series. Continue to grow you channel! By the way, I inspect commercial real estate for a living. No way does that Lynette Fromme concrete writing date to 1960...probably a redo.
Love love love your channel!! ♥️ I have studied the Manson Family for many, many (try 35!) years. I can’t remember exactly where I read this, but I believe Lynette pronounces her last name “From me”, like from me to you. Interesting tidbit, just thought I’d share. Thanks for the great videos! You have a new follower and fan!!😎♥️👍🏼
You can listen to some early demo songs recorded by Manson in the mid 60s now on UA-cam. They're actually quite good although his constant chattering shows how nervous he was during the recording session. It weirdly makes him seem more relatable and human somehow...Perhaps that's how these girls saw him?
they were all musical, if theyd just practiced instead of always going out killing, they couldve ended up another famous 70's musical family, like the Osmonds or Jackson 5...."The Manson Family Singers."
I watched a video of his recording at I believe Brian Wilson’s house, he was pretty good, but the Wilson’s and even Melcher didn’t like Charlie as person, his weird behavior and zero to crazy attitude turned them off. I liked the Clang clang one
Can you imagine going to prison in the 70s and not getting out until after the year 2000 and just being blown away by how the world has changed
How about going in 1970 and still in prison. ?
That should be like a time travel.
They will be completely lost ; so much has changed. If they cannot adapt they might end up wishing they had stayed in jail.
Like Brooks Hatlin in Shawshank Redemption!
@@hetaera3418 yea.
I was present years ago when Squeaky Fromme was captured after her escape from Alderson prison and brought to the federal courthouse for arraignment. She wanted to know if she had to pledge allegiance to the flag and other things like that. And she was so detached. She kept talking about saving redwood trees and was even reading a pamphlet as she was taken away. It was an odd day in court.
Wonder if Martha Stewart would have thought she would be in the same prison
Likely didn't cross her mind. I wouldn't bring up the idea of redwood furniture around Fromme.
Just when I thought I’d seen practically every location you show us the squeaky pole. Incredible and to think it’s still standing over 50 years later and the cement hasn’t been vandalised after all those years. Mind blowing. Thank you so much for this video it’s a gem. 👏🏽
Who the hell cares about the seqkey pole
@@robya7843 nice spelling
@@petermickus8688 thank you
Thank You for doing this video! I was 9 when Sharon Tate and her baby and her friends were murdered. My mother talked about it for years. Its hard to not think about it to this day.
I worked with a guy that had stayed on the ranch in his young adult years. Every time he told the stories they we’re always the same and never changed. Very interesting stories too the way they were expressed was like it had happened yesterday
Tell us the best ones you remember!
Well that's very vague
Right 😒
It's very interesting how those crazy girls' narrative so closely resembles the new crazy left wing mob. You could put their manifesto side-by-side and it would look very very similar.
@@brickhouse3282 I don’t know, Kinda reminds me of MTG and Lauren Boebert
Squeaky was looking for external validation because her father's coldness destroyed her self esteem. Made her vulnerable to manipulation. What's most bizarre is that she still appears to be under Manson's influence.
Taking as many drugs as she did, it will affect your brain.
You can say that about quite a few people in today's society. A big portion of this country has been Masoned.
@@dukey19941 yes drugs, particularly LSD were part of his brain washing tactics of ' dropping the ego'.
The depth of your research never ceases to amaze me! Great stuff Grimmlife! 🙂👍
epigenetics Im sure figured in; sounds like her parents werent fully normal people.
You hit another home run with this video. I learned so much, I’m in downtown Los Angeles every weekend and walk pass these streets and places you showed in this video never knowing I was walking by historic places.
You left me craving more of these videos!!! Very interesting indeed! I wasn’t born until 1983, but this has always been something I wanted to learn more about. Please continue this as a series of some sort.
Love all these fascinating you tube videos about Manson and his girls.They sound like angels when they sing,so hard to achieve when not benefitting from a studio.
Really beautiful singing far better than proper studio recordings
It’s amazing how Manson was able to manipulate these girls and so many other. Disturbing and at the same time fascinating .thank you for posting great stuff as always
and they never snapped out of it no matter how old they got or how long they didnt see him, it's crazy!
@@joejones9520 its remarkable really how they were almost in a trance
Check out the movie "Charlie Says".
Charlie Says is on Netflix, btw.
Women are desperate to follow a strong male leader. It’s not that difficult to see how Manson did what he did. It would be easy for a Manson figure to do exactly the same thing today, particularly as there’s a lack of strong male leaders in many areas and arenas now.
This is one of those cases that just never leaves me. Thanks for covering one of the lesser known people involved.
Lesser known?! Than the victims?!
Fromme is not really lesser known. She’s fairly infamous.
@@scottcastro9383 That's true, not really lesser known, but more worthless, I think.
Love seeing the matching photos from then and now, and the old news clips. I grew up in the 70s, can't get enough of Manson and his 'family' lol Great research you do, love you guys and this channel 😘💕✌️
So interesting. I thought I’ve seen everything about the Manson family, but you shown us something different. I love seeing the actual places where things occurred.
Thanks!
Hearing them sing you just get the strangest feeling...
Hearing the girls singing credit to them
Lovely voices and harmony.
Wow, you GriMMs find the BEST curiosities... Who would have known there was a "Squeaky Pole", in LA, and the Manson Family points of interest are so telling of a time gone by.... Thanks, GriMMs for another Grand episode..... :^)""""""""
Ive studied the Manson Family inside and out that I had nightmares, one where I was walking into a funeral home and I walked up to a casket with a woman with long blond hair and she was pregnant and knives were sticking out of her belly, I turned around and all the attendees were dressed in black hooded capes and then all the sudden knives came popping out of there hands and one of them said your next pig, Thank goodness I woke up but during my study with them I knew each member like I lived with them but Grimmlife I didnt know this about Squeaky Fromme, thank you, you and your wife really get to details of a story, you have me enthralled in your stories. Thanks for covering this one and finding these details and I thought I knew everything about the Manson Family. We were going to go vosot the Sharon Tate home but after that dream I skipped it now Im kicking myself because they tore it down in the 90's. Keep up this excellent work, by far the best youtube channel on here.
Oh I remember this lady , she is still kind of brainwashed by him all these years later. Thanks for these videos. I’m from the UK 🇬🇧 so it’s amazing to hear about all these stories I’ve never heard of ❤️ you research so well xx
Yep. She tried to kill President Ford but didn’t have the gun loaded properly. We still have tons of gun crazies here. 🥺🇺🇸🥺🇺🇸
Love all your videos! Every aspect of the Manson story is fascinating. I've watched every interview and every time i can feel myself getting drawn in. I can see how the girls, and the guys became who they became under his influence. Despite what he did or what he didnt do i believe him to be one of the smartest and least understood figures of his generation
Be sure Sqeeky sounds very eloquent .
Sure Manson was at times then goes off into a mad rant every so often.
Another great video! It struck me, watching it, how young Squeaky and the other girls were. And when the reporter was interviewing them they really seemed to believe that they were doing something good. They thought Manson and the others on trial were going to get out again and life was just going to continue. It would be interesting to talk with them today.
I detected a slight proper tone or formality in their speech that girls dont have today, funny considering they were extremely improper!
I was 2 years old when the Manson murders happened. I remember growing up and hearing about it on the news. Hearing my family talk about it once in awhile. Every time they saw that Manson was going to court or whatever. Totally insane. What he had those people do to Sharon Tate and the other people is just horrific. Thank you for doing this video and sharing it with us. You put such research into everything. You're amazing
He did not tell them to do it. They did in there minds what they wanted to do. He asked them individually “would you kill for me and face consequences?” They said yeah. He didn’t know Tex chose that house. He was in San Diego that night for getting a traffic ticket but Tex Watson chose her house. He did say he knew Sharon and seen her a couple of times at Denise’s and Elvis house. His story stayed the same after many years even the interviews but how many times did they change there story to what they did to those poor innocent people. They blamed Charles then they blamed Tex for the killings and then they changed to who they killed and didn’t kill. Steven parent sister made a point saying “Charles wasn’t there when the murders took place. He did not hold the gun to Susan, Patricia, Leslie or Tex’s head ordering them to kill them”. They knew what they were doing whether if it was drugs or no drugs. He knew Leno because Leno knew a guy named Frankie and he did ask where is Frankie to Leno but other then that Tex Watson and the girls killed them. They are just pointing fingers to other people for there own actions. Yes Charles may have been crazy in his own mind but he knows damn well where he was and what he was doing. It was not the only time they first killed. Bobby beausoleil killed Gary hinman for his Volkswagen and the Manson family killed Donald “Shorty” Shea because they thought he was an informant with the police after the Tate-Labianca murders. All those years the Manson girls never said sorry to the victims families. Paul Tate Sharon Tate’s father saw an interview of Susan Atkins in the 1980s an interviewer asked her “would you give out the words to say I’m sorry to the victims families?” Her response was “you ask hard questions”.. whats so hard about saying there truly sorry for what they have done. Several members of the Manson family did say that the Tate-Labianca murders was a way to get Bobby beausoleil out of prison to make it like it’s a black war. RIP to all the victims.
@@BlackDahlia26 He was not in San Diego that night getting a traffic ticket. That was earlier. He returned to the ranch before evening with Stephanie Schram, having been in San Diego. Also, you'd have to be out of your mind to trust Manson when he told Hard Copy that he'd met Sharon at the homes of Dennis Wilson or Elvis Presley, let alone that Tex chose the Tate house with no input from Manson. But believe what you want.
@@zebrastreet9993 yes everybody believes that Manson was crazy but you don’t get it either. I watched interviews, I watched parole hearings. I know what they kept doing to get out. People believing killers is just sick. Those girls and Tex Watson are monsters no matter what. You can believe what you want to hear. He does admit to some things he did but those girls keep changing there stories. Diane Lake wrote in her memoir he did meet Dennis Wilson and Dennis Wilson did say they met when he picked up 2 young women at sunset boulevard.
Kaleen Kee I’m not that interested in your overall view of the crimes. Everyone has an opinion, no matter how many interviews or parole hearings we watch or read. I was mostly just correcting your error about Manson not being present at the ranch on the evening of the Cielo murders. He was there, even by his own admission. Manson said a lot of shit in his interviews. Sure, some truth is in there but also a lot of horseshit. When he claimed to have met Sharon Tate, personally it is my opinion he is speaking in a riddle, using a metaphor. In other words, he didn’t literally mean Sharon. He meant Hollywood. People in the entertainment industry. That is the way he talked sometimes. But that is just my read of it. I also think he spewed plenty of nonsense during interviews because he had no love for the media and liked to mess with them. Taking him literally with stuff like that is a mistake. But whatever.
@@zebrastreet9993 I was talking about him not being at the Tate house. I didn’t care what he did at the ranch. Yes he did sound insane like I mentioned earlier. It don’t matter if he was in San Diego or at the ranch. A lot of people claim he was there but as a matter of fact he wasn’t. They all were insane that night. It’s nobody else fault but the ones who did the killing. Have a good day.
Excellent work as always. Yes..I visit such places and there is nothing like actually being there to better understand and appreciate a case.
I remember when this happened. It was such a sad, sad thing. May they RIP. Thanks for inviting us to tag along and for all of the information.
The last picture of the girls with the shaven heads and x in their foreheads, is super creepy. I read Helter Skelter when I was in 7th grade and it scared the shit out of me... Nothing like the Manson family before or since, has terrified so many people...imho of course.. Awesome video,I hope you do a whole Manson series that would rock !
Deb17 I was very young when the murders happened. What's fascinating is the devotion the girls had to Manson to the extent of shaving their heads.I do think that lynette squeaky fromme really did have an incredible fragile beauty when she was young, she was Not involved in the killings.
@@johndean4765 I think she was a misguided lost soul. A very loyal person. When I see the footage of her interviews etc at the time, she actually seems like a sweet person and outgoing and friendly. Likeable. I am sure Charlie never would of asked her to go because frankly I don't think she would have had it in her to kill. Her father treated her crappy and I think Charlie showing her love was so foreign to her, that she was devoted to him forever. Sad she couldn't see through it and break away. I was 3 when this happened.
I adore/adored Sharon Tate. I grew up watching her films and such. She died before I was born,but still loved her. And watched everything about the trial and case because of that. Thank you for showing something I have never seen. Blessed Be.
Both Polanski and Tate were know satanists. Still " adore" her?
@@jenniferwise8515 That is NOT true. I adore Sharon Tate as well. She was known as a very sweet person and had a lot of friends. Came from a good family. That is such a stupid rumor started by people who were freaked out about the murders and how such a thing could happen to innocent people. No one could make sense of it. Btw, check out the documentary about Jay Sebring. It's really good. It's here on youtube.
@@rubyputnam8526 not a rumor at all. Research her dad as well. Sharon was sadly a satanist.
@@jenniferwise8515 it doesnt matter because being a satanist is no different than being a leprechaun; neither is a real thing, anyone could call themselves that but still not a real thing. It is impossible for anything to violate our laws of cause and effect. Magic, religion, the occult is all bs, has never happened and cant happen.
@@jenniferwise8515 That QAnon/satanic panic stuff isn't real. Conspiracy theories about witches and devils has made some of you insane.
My man, love your videos, you have a way of coming across very honest, sincere and mindful of the "survivors". I love the way you combine the historical footage along with the narrative of you two. I understand many of your viewers are younger and are quite possibly learning about these issues for the first time, but I am much older (60)and many of your videos take me down memory lane.
Thanks to the both of you, and continued success with your channel. 🖖
guys are my favorite youtubers. please never change. love the content!
Love you guys. Love your videos. Didn’t know Squeaky was paroled. Kind of crazy to think about.
Nicely edited, great documentation of history. A huge piece of 20 century Southern California history that has yet to be fully analyzed. Good work, as usual.
These acts culturally were a loss of innocence for a nation. The end of the hippy flower child love and peace movement.
I'm a new member living in middle Earth. I must say these little gems you two create are lovely! I toast My mug of beer to you my friend!
You always amazing with these videos Michael, thank you. Sandy was so convinced
Grew up in Westchester, went to Westchester High. When I found out that Patricia Krenwrinkle went to the same high school I was at, I got chills! And now to know that another member has ties to Weschester, I got chills again!
That song lives in my head rent free... 🖤 Fantastic video
I enjoy watching y'all dope content on UA-cam especially during a winter storm here in Garland Texas
I love how you go back to the acual places and explain in a wonderful way. As years passed and these girls grew I wonder if their thoughts changed of him or same thoughts as when they was younger. Thank U both. Love the videos.
Thank you for being respectful of the school🦋🦋🦋🦋
You have a new subscriber 🦋
I don't live in Stockton but I know it well... Flora street I may visit for historical purposes.
I really appreciate your work. It's all about locations with me, I find it fascinating. Thank you for your hard work, your effort is appreciated.
Love how you guys dig deep and find all this information!
Fantastic video Michael and Jessica
Definitely my go to channel
Great work
A former classmate said once, he observed Lynette casually pushing a stapler into her arm, making it bleed. Guess that was a precursor to what troubled kids of today do in cutting themselves.
She’s nuts and still support Charlie… she’s still dangerous
I have such a strong caring for the memories of all the victims of the Manson Family and have talked a couple of times with Sharon Tate's sister Deb, such a together and lovely lady considering what she had to go through. Anyhow except for my love of history I would have nothing to do with any of the Family members in any fashion. One day when trying to research more online regarding Sharon Tate, I came across the most horrible pictures of Sharon at the crime scene, hope I never see those pictures again, yet seeing them makes me totally detest the Family fully, no quarter from me. Have a great weekend Michael and Jess-Dan-Vancouver BC.
Please do a story on Jay Sebring home please...I would love to see it . Keep.up the great work ...I love your channel.
@Grimmlifecollective, this is a great idea. Hopefully, a video soon on Jay Sebring. 👍
I've only seen a few pics of his home over the years and have never seen any pics of the inside, I always wondered what it looked like. Scott Michaels Six Degrees of Helter Skelter did a interview with the owner, it has quite the History. I absolutely love you guys UA-cam channel, you go to all the places I would love to see ,I look forward to every new one. So keep up the good work and thanks again for making a old lady 😃 smile.
So i’ve been like religiously watching your channel lately & the past few days i’ve been on a manson kick in general so it’s crazy that you posted this today!!
Excellent content again. Would love to see some locations for Susan Atkins if you ever think about doing that. Greetings from Ireland.
The content on this channel is second to none. GREAT!!! Keep them coming.
I absolutely love your videos. All of your topics fascinate me. Thank you for all the work and effort you put into your videos 🤘
All of your videos are so informative and it's great seeing all of these places. Keep up the great work!
I love how you presented the video; great stuff. I visited Corcoran CA several times and low key looked for any Manson Family people while he was incarcerated there. I also wrote Manson once asking for an interview for a documentary, but he send my letter back to me unanswered.
Wow would of thought he would of done seens he likes being in the lime light 🤔
@@Lucy-ek6ne It gets old-hat after awhile and the thrill eventually wears off..
@@duffbaker9554 and the fact he couldn't read or write hence sending the letter back unanswered 🤷♀️
chances are, your letter never reached charlie. guards read all incoming packages. the prison sent them back to you, not charlie.
@@Lucy-ek6ne he could read. It's been stated many times that shortly before he stated recruiting people into a family, he read Dale Carnegie book "How to win friends and influence people"
Great job as usual thank you
I am shocked that she was paroled. I figured an attempt on a presidents life would land her in prison for life. Great video; lots of info and footage I have never seen.
Odd, isn't it? John Hinckley Jr. (who shot Reagan in 1981) is out of prison/secured mental health facility. He lives with his mother in Virginia.
hinckley shot a president and several others with EXPLODING bullets, none of the victims were ever the same and one eventually died from the injuries but after yrs of living in pleasant facilities and not obeying orders to stop writing to jody foster, the dangerous nutcase is out and playing concerts...
The gun was never loaded. She was not about to do harm to the president at all. Which is why she was released in the end. She should have tried to make a point about the dammage to the planet in that way thou.
The Greta of the 70s😂
Awesome vid. Very cool of you to take the time to go to these places. I never heard of the "Squeaky Pole"... I'm gonna visit it next time I'm in LA, that's for sure.
Love your channel..would you ever document the 1970s LA punk scene..Hongkong cafe..Starwood..Wisky a go go..Danny's Oki dog..so many great memories
You have a first amendment right to film publicly, from public locations.
You're very respectful to places when filming but never forget, you don't need to ask permission. The right was granted to you by the blood and sacrifice of fallen heroes.
Agree. Trust but verify: I know you are always so courteous and polite with everyone, and want to acknowledge their wishes and comfort level, but if you want to film something from a public sidewalk or other public property - as I understand it - you can film anything or anyone you can see from a public space, even if what you are filming from public is a private space. Nor do you need anyone's permission to film them in public with no expectation of privacy (ask the paparazzi!).
A right but in this day and age of school shootings and child abductions it is understandable that schools do not want people taking pictures or video.
people have to be so careful about their kids and school. Good for him to be considerate of those who might be fearful of a stranger with a camera.
Film what your eyes can see in public it’s our right. Shame on the school from stopping you.
@dakota shea: damn straight👍👍
I have to stop the video half way through just to tell you, holy shit dude. you keep surprising us with such great videos. well made, well thought out, well edited. all these clips we didnt even know existed. hell yea dude. okay continuing now lol
I grew up in Sacramento. My dad hated Ford, for pardoning Nixon. I remember him saying "see. Little red riding hood can't stand him either".
I knew the old man, I was a family friend of Charlie. We were working on a book when he died and I was doing all the art. Interesting times.
Man, this is a really good video. Thanks for capturing this!
11:27 This is why and during the trial, that these three ( well now two) have a hard time trying to beg for their release. No mercy for either.
Even though I grew up with a stepfather, I never had a father because this bastard beat me shitless, and also, my mom hardly ever gave me attention. Now that I'm older and thousands of miles from her, she's hoping I'd come home someday but it's not possible hopefully. I can relate to squeaky but I grew up perfectly fine and with an open mind that didn't turn out like hers.
Very informative , awesome stuff as always!
Great video! Love all the effort on the Manson sites.
I'd like to see an interview during current era with the girls who were singing with their hands out talking about how a big revolution is coming ..... Obviously they're all real young , WHEN did they think
" Perhaps I should move on and get an apartment or start a family ". Surely at least one made something of themselves
Thank you for the video! Very interesting, especially when no one else really talks about the lives before they joined that terrifying group! Btw loving your shirt!
Thank you for this video. Very informative. Good research. 👍
Absolutely fabulous video! I learned a lot from this. You guys rock!!! 😊❤️
Another video! You are both working so hard and i APPRECIATE your content so much! I learn something from every video and this one WOW its been so long since Manson and it will never fail to give me shivers down my neck! 🎃👻🦇🕸🕷🎃
How do you not have a series on Netflix or Hulu yet!!?? Content is the best!
Keep the Manson content coming!
This is one of the best documentary and make me ask for more. Thanks Grimm man keep doing this.
She did a podcast interview a year or two ago. You can find a copy here on UA-cam. To promote her book. She still praised Charlie unrepentant about that. BUT is no longer a major part of what she's about. From the podcast he seems a very cool old flower power hippie type. Sweet downright loveable . You can't imagine that she was once sitting at Sphan movie ranch post trial on camera toting rifles and bullet belts preaching revolutionary uprising with Sandra Good at her side. Redheads and their passions gotta love them.. lol
Nothing makes my day better than a video from you guys! Love you 💓 Hugs from Wisconsin!
The book Helter Skelter is probably the most complete history of the Manson murders and trial.
Not really.
@Douglas Farshtey Oh, did he mastermind multiple murders?
No! It isend ! That is chaos by tom o Neil
By far my favorite series on this channel...love the channel..but the way you discuss the subject I get pulled in...my favorite of the uploads was the one where you went down to the little half cave...you added a song song by the mason girls that was really creepy..is that particular light pole with squeakys name historically saved because of how long it's been there...I'm talking even before her name was written..
You guys are great! Lovin' he content 😊
Your videos are packed with interesting information! I've been learning a lot from you two! 💖💖
Dakota Fanning played a great Squeaky in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Dakota scared me.
OMG!!! I discovered your channel yesterday and I can tell you your videos are a really treasures for those who love this case. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Now when ever I hear about the Manson Family, I can’t help but think about Leo torching the hippie with the flame thrower… 😂😂😂
Can't wait til my shirt gets here I ordered from you guys 🖤🖤🖤
The whole Helter Skelter /Manson family murders was and still is so bizarre. I was a young kid at the time of the Tate-LaBianca murders. I remember my parents and other grown ups talking about it all the time. I was like 'What is Helter Skelter and Charles Manson?"
Soooooo goooood. Excellent as always Spooky Spooksters👏🎃🖤🕺🏻👻💃🏼
Interesting video, Michael. Lynette SQUEAKY Fromme seems to still be taken with Manson. At least it appears that way in the clip from the interview. Cults are dangerous. I have talked to many that have been sucked into their web of deceit.
Love Bill Curtis…that voice is so recognizable and so perfect as a narrator.
Outstanding one again!!!!!!!😀😀
......By the way....how about the Virginia Rappe And Fatty Arbuckle Case.........or the Johnny Stompanato homicide.....
or nearly anything thats in the Book "Hollywood Babylon" by Kenneth Anger....(who did the Film "Lucifer Rising" with Bobby Beausoleil of the Manson Family.....)
Bobby Beausoleil also wrote the soundtrack...........
Thank you again👍👍👍
Your context is great … your videos are great … your archives are on point !!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
😎 Very interesting, thank you guys!
This was really interesting, I thank you, I want to read her book.
Very strange, I've been watching a lot of Manson videos lately and then a new one of yours pops up. As usual your contents is fascinating and well researched - the Squeaky Pole; amazing. I'm reading a book at the moment called Chaos: The Truth About the Manson Murders; I recommend it highly if you haven't read it. Keep up the great work, respect to you and Jessica.
Love the shirt! Love this video!! Great Job!
I'm stuck in a BAD winter in ohio right now (like pipes froze/snowed in)...thank you guys for helping cure my depression 🖤🖤
Same here in ky...
Great stuff, keep them coming
Poor little Lynnette Fromme. When Charlie read what was written all over her face and told her that her father had thrown her out it so blew her mind. After months of mind washing he actually had her believing that he could breathe life into dead things.
Was on something @ that time ?
That’s not true in the least. Things did not go down the way everyone thinks it did. Her book is very illuminating if you’re interested though.
love all the mansun stuff love to see more soon x
Always been fascinated by the Manson saga since the time it happened. I was 13 at the time and have read so many different books on the subject. I love your videos because seeing the actual places gives it more reality. I'm currently reading a book that takes a completely different direction than the others I've read - and I've read many. It makes you re-think what you've always known from the many books out there - or at least what you thought you knew. The corruption of the trial. Charlie's mob connections. His connection to the Beach Boys was deeper than we've been told. It goes into the characters residing at the Tate house. They were not sweet and innocent people by any means. They, of course, didn't deserve to die, but the drug allegations the press and prosecution tried to suppress was very real. The book digs deeply into each of the characters involved and how much of what we've "known" just doesn't add up. Bugliosi was made famous, but the way he conducted the trial was less than stellar with many facts being left out. It's called "Now Is The Only Thing That's Real: A re-examination of the Manson murders, motives and mythos" by Neal Sanders. Definitely worth a read. www.amazon.com/Only-Thing-Thats-Real-re-examination-ebook/dp/B077D13GWJ
Read the Chaos book
.brilliant
@@satka2mau487 I believe that book is mentioned in Sanders' book. Thanks for the heads up.
It's written by Tom o Neil...some intreasting film on Joe Rogan experience Channel with him talking about it and the inconsistencies. Manson they saying was part of MK ultra mind control CIA project to defame the hippy movement
@@satka2mau487 If you enjoyed O'Neil's book, you will love the one I posted. It covers MK and many many other things. Covers a lot of other corruption as well.
Just wanna say thanks for your informative video. Anything on manson and family is much appreciated. And your camera is really good HD quality!!!
I was just thinking the other day that this would make a great story for you two to do. No one could do this better than yall. I was right, great video.
Another awesome video. Great job!
I thought it was Squeak because her name is fromme which is French for cheese, mice like cheese and mice squeak 🤷🏼♀️ you learn something new every day.
I'm glad to see you're branching out into other topic areas than spooky Halloween and the like. You do a great job presenting, narrating, and videoing your series. Continue to grow you channel! By the way, I inspect commercial real estate for a living. No way does that Lynette Fromme concrete writing date to 1960...probably a redo.
I wonder how the owners of that home feel having her name scribbled in the front like that. Very interesting video. Thank you.
Love love love your channel!! ♥️
I have studied the Manson Family for many, many (try 35!) years. I can’t remember exactly where I read this, but I believe Lynette pronounces her last name “From me”, like from me to you. Interesting tidbit, just thought I’d share. Thanks for the great videos! You have a new follower and fan!!😎♥️👍🏼
You can listen to some early demo songs recorded by Manson in the mid 60s now on UA-cam. They're actually quite good although his constant chattering shows how nervous he was during the recording session. It weirdly makes him seem more relatable and human somehow...Perhaps that's how these girls saw him?
they were all musical, if theyd just practiced instead of always going out killing, they couldve ended up another famous 70's musical family, like the Osmonds or Jackson 5...."The Manson Family Singers."
@@joejones9520 Considering some of the other crazy ideas I've seen for sitcoms I'm surprised that wasn't the premise for one.
I watched a video of his recording at I believe Brian Wilson’s house, he was pretty good, but the Wilson’s and even Melcher didn’t like Charlie as person, his weird behavior and zero to crazy attitude turned them off. I liked the Clang clang one
It was kinda cool when the truck rolled up and that only added to the photo lining up even more at the end of the video. Good stuff as always :)