It will though, only instances you'll go below 60hz is when you are on a still image, anything else will go at the highest possible refresh rate and the device needs to process when to use the 120hz and when to lower which requires energy to process. Think of it this way, a single scroll on a 120hz display will always be double the 60hz display multiply that by the number of scrolls per day and you get way more, the instances of where you have it at less than 60hz occurs far less.
@@Hhhh22222-w except that isnt true. Its not static like that. The lowest promotion will go is 24, up to 120hz. Surfing the web and watching content, the refresh rate seldom goes to 120HZ. This is why promotion doesnt nearly feel as smooth as lets say a static 120hz screen. On really fast scrolling the refresh rate will indeed bump to 120hz, but most of the time the refresh rate will be as low as 24, as for the 60hz display will be set to a static 60hz.
I am a student and mostly working with chatgpt and a lot of note-taking with my apple pencil. I have a 2020 iPad Pro 11" (2nd gen) for 2 years now. My question is, should I switch to the iPad Air M2 because the Apple Intelligent feature won’t be supported on my iPad? How big and good is this apple intelligent! Honestly that’s the only reason I’m considering
I’m a journalist and I’ve a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 with an A12Z and a magic keyboard. It works perfectly well for me as I can edit podcasts with Logic Pro or Ferrite with lots of beautiful audio plugin, news video in 4K with DaVinci Resolve or LumaFusion, edit photos in Raw, study and edit documents with Goodnotes, write pieces with Runestone (i write with Textedit on my Macs since 2009) and so on. I think I’ll not upgrade for now. For me it’s not a matter of hardware: give us a better multitasking and file management.
I actually just went for a 12.9inch M1 iPad Pro. My alternative was the M2 Air. I personally don’t think I’d have been upset with the 60Hz refresh rate of the new air, but the small things like Face ID and the improved speakers is just… worth it, for me at least. The incremental increase in power from the M1 to M2 is going to be hard for me to notice with my usage, I just wanted to be able to hook it up to an external monitor so needed an M chip! Maybe I’ll make a little vacation video from time to time on it, but the seconds I save in rendering vs the money I save now, I’m excited for my new to me, M1 iPad Pro!
Had the 10.5 inch iPad Pro with promotion 256 GB 4 microphones 4 speakers for 7 years paid $800 in November 2017. I never had any issues with it still worked perfectly, but I decided to upgrade so I sold it for $300 with the first generation, Apple Pencil and the logictech keyboard case. I just bought A brand new 12.9 inch iPad Pro with the M2 chip and 256 GB of memory for $890 👈👀at BJ’s last one left. I bought the logictech keyboard combo touch for $129 on Amazon. The XDR screen is excellent compared to the iPad 11 OLED just as good no complaints. HDR is excellent too with SAME 1600 nets of brightness AS THE 11 OLED 🙍♂️
Awesome video! Another thing I would like to point out: if you buy from the apple certified refurbished they have already replaced the battery and outer shell, so you don't have to worry about the previous owner's batter care or any scratches. I believe that they also do a full test of all the devices that they are selling and replace any parts that don't work, so its far more trustworthy to buy directly from the apple refurbished than from someone random on ebay or facebook marketplace. Also in their new announcement only M-series chips are supported, so if you want the new update go for an m-series ipad.
Three weeks ago I picked up an M2 12.9 inch iPad Pro, one terabyte, with the Apple magic keyboard, and the Apple pencil 2, all for $1100 on Facebook marketplace. Saved over $1000 over buying the new M4 version and I’m very happy.
I recently got an Open Box Excellent condition 12.9" M2 iPad Pro with 256GB storage from Best Buy, for just $772 after taxes. Absolute steal at that price, for what it is (size, miniLED XDR display, storage capacity, and basically brand New condition). The AppleCare even goes til 10 months from when I got it. Way better than getting a stripped-down Air M2.
I went from the original iPad Air to the M1 Pro a year ago (10.9" and 11" versions). My opinion might be different than others, but here's my 2 cents. First off, I don't use these for any heavy lifting, as I have a MacBook Pro M1 for that, which is much easier for photo/video edits, etc.. Portrait camera on both makes them useless even for FaceTime calls, IMO. The M1 Pro's screen is marginally brighter, but it's not like it's burning the retina in my eyeballs either. ProMotion vs. non-ProMotion...I know many comment that it's a deal breaker for them. For me it's a marginal improvement, and the non-ProMotion didn't bother me to begin with. I don't listen to music on these, so speakers mean nothing, and I have Beat's Pro buds if that's the case. Cameras?? I have my iPhone Pro for that need. Here's what might surprise some....I hate FaceID on the M1 Pro. I missed the instant open with my index finger on the touch sensor of the Air. Needing to have my face within acceptable range of the iPad to open it...and this without my hand blocking the sensor-which it does more than half the time, to me is an inconvenience. Honestly, I didn't find the upgrade to the M1 Pro to original Air worth the extra money at the time. Like other people, I like getting the 'best' toy available, even if it's unnecessary, and this was one of those cases. To me the only reason to upgrade to the new iPads would be if you REALLY want that landscape camera. Everything else is gonna be a similar experience unless and until they make iPadOS more like a MacBook. My iPads always get hardly used because iPads are limited so much by the OS, making them by far strictly consumption devices for the overwhelming vast majority of users.
I was actually hoping to catch an M2 iPad Pro on sale after the M4s came out. I traded in a previous M1 iPad Pro due to diminished battery performance and got a good rate from Best Buy for it. As the M2 iPad Pros had not yet been reduced for a good deal, I purchased an M2 iPad Air. As soon as my return window closed, the M2 iPad Pros went on sale for essentially the same price as the M2 iPad Airs. I was a bit disappointed at first, but realize that the Air has two additional years of overall modernity and software life even though the devices have the same chip inside. The hardware adjustments, such as the horizontal camera and compatibility with the Apple Pencil Pro may be something that I come to value a year or two down the road. Overall, because of the way that I use my iPad, it probably doesn't matter that much. I was used to using an iPad Pro, but didn't really use it for pro tasks. If I could do things all over again, I would be fine either way! 😆
It sounds crazy but I might actually consider the air for one reason: the new pencil. I use my Apple Pencil a lot and after testing it at the store, it’s difficult for me to buy a new iPad for myself without upgrading the pencil. Generally though buying used flagship is better than new budget and these iPads are no exception
@@Mejrfrog Yeah, same for me... plus the fact, that you'll get the newer iPads for 10% cheaper as a student, and even the Apple Pencil Pro for completely free right now. It's probably a good deal for non-students, but a complete waste for those, who are students. Especially, like you mentioned, for those who profit from the Pencil features. Also the fact, that I have a Macbook, kinda makes the Pro a bit useless. And I even think of upgrading to a Pro iPhone years later, which would make the Pro even more useless. 120Hz is nice and all, but not even my monitors at home are 120Hz, only 60Hz/75Hz. I would just throw out money for a bit more features + an Apple Pencil 2, which... god knows how long it will still get support.
M1 iPad Pro owner here. I have 0 reasons to upgrade. My iPad runs just as smooth as day 1. It’s perfectly fine for procreate and Goodnotes. I have 0 complaints. The m1 is a beast of a chip. Apple probably regrets going as hard as they did on their first iteration.
Mine has dropped incredibly in battery life despite it being 96% of it’s original capacity according to analysis reports, that’s the only reason I’m considering changing it but then again it could be because of the OS being a little more battery hungry than the older OS, also that’s like 100€ for a battery replacement from Apple so it’s a better option then trading this one in for the new pro and having to pay 600 more
I own an iPad Pro 2018 256gb 4gb Ram since release and have been editing Canon and Fuji Raw in Lightroom and GoPro 4K without major hassle. Since about 3 years I have been using mirrorless video footage to edit in Lumafusion and that’s when stability became a bit of an issue. I also use an ssd to edit directly with, which made the iPad struggle for a bit. Exports started to fail, previewing cuts with slo-Mo’s and speedups started to crash. I had to export a lumafusion package to export it on my M1 MBP. That worked fine but it’s been a tedious process. I ordered a new M2 iPad Pro 512gb 8gb today for what I think is a fair price for EU standards (1150 €) and I believe that it would be a significant bump up in performance. At least I hope so. It has the same Thunderbolt4 connection as the m4 and better codec support from what I’ve heard compared to the 2018 version. No Oled but that’s alright. I have been editing a lot on the original one and never had any complaints about that.
I recently got a 2018 iPad Pro and it works perfect for me. All I really use an iPad for is content consumption and very light graphics work. Like I use Canva for graphics and I MIGHT edit a few pics in the Photos app. I like the 12.9 inch model and I got a great deal on it. I also got a great deal on an ESR Magnetic Rebound keyboard case for it off eBay. I probably will eventually get the Magic Keyboard for it though.
🔥 Air Overheats M2 iPad Air 13 overheats, screen dims w/basic use inside! - selling it to buy M4 pro. Thought I could wait a couple years, but nope! Just doing basic work, OneNote, taking notes in class web browsing OneNote email screenshot stuff like that simple.
I am a student and mostly working with chatgpt and a lot of note-taking with my apple pencil. I have a 2020 iPad Pro 11" (2nd gen). My question is, should I switch to the iPad Air M2 because the Apple Intelligent feature won’t be supported on my iPad? How big and good is this apple intelligent! Honestly that’s the only reason I’m considering
This is precisely what I'm doing now, looking for a used M1 Pro that already comes with the keyboard since I would love an M1 pro with a keyboard, just see it as a better use of money versus a new Air and new keyboard. On the other hand, I would probably still be OK with a used M1 Air and a used keyboard, too.
Why compare a used iPad Pro M2 to a new iPad Air M2? Plenty of places are still selling NBIB iPad Pro M2s. Just picked one up from Best Buy for $400 off.
🐬 I got my iPad Pro 11'' M2 a couple weeks before the new ones released, and I agree that the screen alone is worth going for this one instead of the new iPad Air!
I purchased a m1 iPad Pro 12.9 from woot with 256 gb and cellular for 850.00 a couple of weeks ago after the new iPad was released . Thank you for helping me justify my purchase.🐬
I just bought a refurb 12.9 iPad Pro M1. Not a pro user, just the basic stuff of content consumption and of course music sheet when I play music on my home studio/room lol. Initially I was leaning on an M2 iPad Air, went to local Best Buy and compared the latest release line up.. I am comparing it to my son’s IPad Air 2(yes IPad Air 2 lol), i borrow it sometimes..so no matter what I choose its going to be a big upgrade/purchase performance wise. I pad pro 13 M4 was amazing blazingly fast, the airs are just dim when comparing them side by side. I just can’t justify paying over $1k for this device, i have to do reality check and tell myself many times I don’t need it and stay within budget which is $800 ish preferably below. iPad Air M2 11 is a bang for the buck and almost bought it but changed my mind and just M1 12.9 pro.. I wanted, yes, wanted the Promotion, as i plan to use it as a screen (for portability) for game consoles i plan to buy. And second, there is an apple pencil 2nd gen that my daughter doesn’t really use on her IPad mini 6th gen so it’s for me to use most of the time..bought it for $659 with the base storage. And yeah when i got it, it’s almost pristine , just a few minor very negligible scratch at the back.Im putting it into a magic keybaord most of the time anyways..from $599 on the iPad Air 11 to what i paid for with the things i wanted ticked, I’m satisfied very satisfied.. performance blows me away, again, I’m comparing it to a 10 year old iPad Air 2. I have 60 days to test it as a Best Buy total member, hopefully it wont break so I’m not forced to return it. But yeah I’m going to keep it..
@@JC7LG hopefully you will love it and serves you well..I love mine..I can read the notes on my music sheet better than my son’s iPad Air 2.. there’s blooming while watching movies especially dark scenes, but it’s negligible as I watch mostly on my TV..there is no perfect iPad.. again enjoy 👍
@@ChesterWilliamNimitz I got it and I love this thing! I’m working but also studying in the evening to get my commercial pilots licence and my intention was to use this for the course, hook it up to a monitor from time to time but also have the option to walk away from my desk as that’s where I work all day already. Outside of that, the occasional game here and there and watching some shows etc. Glad I went for this vs the new iPad Air! Happy to hear yours is doing well for you too!
@@JC7LG wow commercial 🧑✈️.. go for it brother.. I love aviation, someday when I hit mega millions haha.. I would love to own the eclipse 550 lol just like this iPad, it’s within my budget 👍 . Back to topic I see a lot of pilots when I watch them have their iPad minis..I used to meet and talk to a commercial pilot and a cargo pilot. Nice talking to them with some education about GA lol.. anyways. God bless brother
You always give very wise advice :) Very informative and clear. Thanks! I was following you personal channel before your move to "9to5Mac". You are keeping the same high quality.
Buying a 3 year old iPad with a 3 year old battery is a bit of a gamble you never know the health of that battery or if the iPad has any minor issues that wasn’t discovered by the resale company. Given that the battery is already 3 years old you might have to shed another $120 or so for a new battery sooner rather than later. I was able to snag an iPad Air m2 on Black Friday sale from target for $455 with the target circle discount and I added a 2 year Apple care plus for the piece of mind together I spent a little over $500 which made it a much better deal in my opinion than getting an older iPad with an older battery an no Apple warranty
For a first iPad purchase, what would you recommend between the 12.9 inch pro from 2022 and the 11 inch pro 2024? Best Buy has them on sale with just $150 dollar difference between them (the more expensive being the newer model obviously)
I am in the same situation and 100% went for an older model, specifically an m2 Ipad pro 11 for 800€ with combo touch + apple pencial and only 30 cycles of battery (the guy bought it in late 2023) For me it's the 120 Hz display and the LiDAR sensor
12:06 Do you know, if the amount of cycle of charge is also available on the iPad Pro M1? Like I guess/suppose, that you saw this info in the settings/battery… I know that there was an update for this but it was actually working just on the IPhone 15
@@kamdemnsr2609 no, unfortunately you can't see on any iPad, I had to install a software on my PC (windows) called "iMazing" and connect the iPad to watch those details
I just ordered a new in box 2022 128gb M2 Pro for 30% less than a new 256gb 2024 Pro. The location of the camera is the biggest downside but realistically I don’t use it much for video calls and if I do, I’ll have a reason to upgrade but for what I use it for, I couldn’t justify the cost of a 2024 iPad Pro. I may regret it in the next Black Friday sales but we’ll see…
the M1 ipad pro second hand or refurbished is the best bang for the buck for 99% of people, you get all the benefits and literally the same experience.
I recently (after m4 ipad pro was introduced) bought a "new" (old stock) M1 ipad pro. For my purposes it is more than enough computing/graphics horsepower. And although in some respects the new OLED display on the M4 pros is very nice, for many purposes the miniLED display on the 12.9 M1 ipad pro is just as nice. I will give Apple a few more years to work out the kinks and lower the prices of OLED equipped devices.
Picked up a256gb m2 iPad Pro for 650 on eBay. 99% battery health, ~150 charge cycles which is not too bad imho and it came with a case and 3rd party Apple Pencil. I replaced both those with a used Apple Smart Keyboard Folio in amazing condition and Apple Pencil 2 for less than $90. Entire iPad Pro M2 setup in 2024 for under 800 including tax, amazing deal id say
WWDC did change a lot for me. I have a 2020 iPad Air which as performed brilliantly over the past few years and I have the magic keyboard and Apple Pencil 2. The AI features have changed the game a bit because my A14 Bionic will not have AI features which will be very helpful because I use my iPad as a note-taking tool for work and courses. Another reason I reckon I will get an M2 iPad Pro is because when I bought the Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil I bought them with the idea that I am feature proofing my peripherals, but the newest generation has made my keyboard and pencil obsolete. So, by upgrading to an M2 iPad pro, I am now future proofing for another 5 years and making sure I do not have to buy the pencil and keyboard again and benefit from the M Series chips as well as on device AI features.
Hi thanks for the video. I have an older iPad Pro 2nd gen from 2017. The battery is dead and apparently it needs another chip changed, to get it working will cost $250. Is it worth to refurbish rather than buy a new iPad Air?
🐬 this is the video i was anticipating, and I too think the pro will be better, I just love the promotion display, its the game changer. Although I'm worried if the refurbished ipads from ebay will work all fine or not?
100% agree. Once you use 120hz for an extended period of time…going back to a lower refresh rate screen makes it feel so slow! I hate that I’ve become that person…but it is what it is 😅🤷🏻♂️
@@lgthe8god182 maybe for you guys. You are techy guys so actually am I but yet I'm totally fine with my Air 60Hz. It never bothered me even using a 13 Pro 120Hz iPhone. Shouldn't be the focus.
the lack of 120hz alone for me it's a deal breaker on the new iPad Air with M2 chip, i would rather get a refurbished M1 iPad Pro for the same price and it's a much better device, specially to run iPad OS.
I have an iPad Pro 2017 will be keeping it for now but will look on Apple for refurbished iPad Pro 2021 or 2022 model, as mine may soon need a new battery, can get more 128 gb on a newer model, I love 120hz could never go back to 60hz now.
apple should have priced apple pencil 2 at $100 after pencil pro there is no reason to pay same price for inferior pencil just because the user is of cheaper ipad.
For me the M2 iPad Pro was the no brainer choice since I had a 2018 iPad Pro that’s starting to show its age but has a perfectly good pencil and keyboard. Saved some money and got the refurbished M2 iPad Pro and I’m very happy.
Thank you for this. I have an iPad Pro 2018 version and noticed the battery life hasn’t been great lately and was thinking of upgrading to a new iPad Air 2024 model and was looking at a comparison. I just mainly use it for watching videos or shows and don’t have any of the accessories. Just general use. My thought was the air has 128 GB and my pro only has 64 GB. So I thought I could update my storage space and get better battery plus a newer chip. But I didn’t realize the 120 refresh rate and no Face ID on the Air. So your video was very informative. I’ll ask the opinion of anyone in the comments here, is it a good idea for me to switch from you iPad Pro 2018 to the new iPad Air? Or stick with what I have since it still works fine?
I got the M2 iPad Pro over the iPad Air M2 and glad I did. Almost all the specs are superior for about the same price…and the screen… amazingly so much better
I prefer just buying the 13 air and an E-ink device… some of us don’t need that 120fps. What we do need tho, is at least an oled (maybe simpler tech like on the Samsung tabs), but Oled is the dealbreaker here.
I see that 120Hz iPhone users have no problem adapting to a 60Hz iPad. However, you should know that people who use 120Hz or higher on big devices like laptops or PC monitors find it difficult to adapt, and the iPad is in the middle of this transition.
I will upgrade eventually as my M1 iPad Pro has a damaged display. I don’t really push the capabilities of iPad Pro but I remember that great feeling I had when I unboxed it and started using it, Magic Keyboard and Pencil, and started using it after a straight iPad. My biggest irritation is the ff camera placement. Not just on my 1-2 times a month video calls but I also find I am very often covering the camera when I have it in hand, so FaceId doesn’t work well. Thinking of trying an external USB camera to get round the video call problem but may need to change my handling technique! So thinking refurbed M2 iPad Pro 256Gb (about €900) v new M2 Air (Also 256Gb blue @ around €1,000 with a new pencil). Unfortunately no trade-in value for a beaten up iPad so would add Apple Care onto a new Air! So waiting until my display completely disintegrates before making the decision…
Spend $800 2018 IPad Pro so next year I have to upgrade again since it won’t update to IOS 19? 🤔 I just use to Netflix and chill so I’ll stick with the new air model. (For myself)!fits best. Thanks for your video 🙏🏼
I have a question. I could buy a new iPad Pro 2022 11 inch for 840 US dollars. Is it worth it more than an iPad Air M2 because there isn't a big price difference
The us only choices Mini (size preference) iPad10 and iPad Pro. everything else is stair stepping you to more for a little more cash… I love my iPad 10 really can justify the price of iPad Air but if I’m buying that I want a iPad Pro
Hello guys, pls help to decide me what is better if we talk about battery. Wich one is able to keep battery more? I don’t want to charge it all time. Thx in advance
🐬 I would only consider a used iPad directly from Apple. They're just like new devices. I'm tempted towards a 5th gen iPad Pro with the M1 but it's not that easy a choice.
I have really been pondering this situation. I mostly do the usual, emails, texting, bill paying etc, but I also do some photo editing. I hav an iPad Air 3 and am considering an upgrade. I was leaning towards the air 5 or 6, but think I will look at a renewed pro m2. Thanks for your input
As there is still a lot of stock of the 2022 iPad Pro in Brazil, I compared and saw that, except for the pro Pencil, I could buy a new iPad Pro for a fraction of the price of the iPad Air, with the same processor.
@@spede1 thats not used. refurbished is refurbished and tbh in Europe a refurbished Pro M2 is still way pricier than an Air. 11" Pro costs what a 13" Air costs.
It really doesn't make sense to buy 4-6 year old product. Most prople can use external SDDs for extea storage easily. 10gbps is extremely sufficiant. Nobody uses speaker when you have ipods. And 60hz is good at 98% of time (unless you are a gamer). Ipad air M2 is the way to go.
Im gonna get the ipad air 6th generation its cheaper in the philippines. Its only 572 dollars in my country and I can trade in my Samsung tablet for discount also. And negotiate the price for another discount in Greenhills.
I fully believe that any M series iPad Pro on the market is a better purchase than an M2 iPad Air simply because of the screen refresh rate and Face ID. That landscape camera is nice, but not that nice.
I don't actually understand the point of the iPad Air. It's heavier and thicker than the pro. It's the same thickness and weight of the old Pro. Why is it Air? That moniker has no value here.
The Pro is thinner than the Air. Air has more space within its chasis than the pro.so that’s why it’s called the Air because its has more Air within than the pro.
@@HistoryNut-1701 Yes, but the difference between M1 and M2 on an iPad is neglectable. On the other hand you have the much better 120 Hz mini-LED display with HDR support, much better sound and Thunderbolt... For the camera do your Facetime in portrait mode...
Buy the M2 Pro. The Air's 60Hz screen stutters horribly, and the difference in speaker quality between the Pro and the Air is overwhelming (the Pro 11 is better than the Air 13). Touch ID is very inconvenient on a large tablet, but with the Pro, you get Face ID that works from four directions. Additionally, the M2 Air has one fewer GPU core compared to the M2 Pro (Air: 9 cores, Pro: 10 cores), and the Pro supports Thunderbolt and USB4. The rear flash and LiDAR scanner are exclusive to the Pro. The Air's display bezel is thicker than the Pro's, and the device itself is unnecessarily thicker. Even accessories like the Magic Keyboard do not fit perfectly with the Air. Also, the Air does not support front-facing portrait photos. There is a significant difference in microphone quality as well (the Pro comes with studio-quality microphones). Just buy the Pro. The differences are too great. The only thing the Air does better is running the Apple Pencil Pro on its dreadful 60Hz fixed screen. Oh, and the Pro also comes with a dual-camera setup that includes an ultra-wide camera. Additionally, despite having the same M2 chip, the Air lacks the ProRes encoding and decoding engine. And the Pro's display is 100 nits brighter.
While that might sound good. remember that batteries get old, and its not something that is easily fixed in today's climate. Even if a battery has not been used and been sitting idle, it is degrading. small story on my end. last year I bought a set of lithium ion batteries for some hardware. One of the batteries wasn't charging to full, and would discharge rather quickly. I thought that all it needed was a few charges, as some controllers that are built into the complex batteries need a bit of calibration. well it never got better. my other batteries were charging to full, and would easily last nearly 3x longer than this one black sheep battery that I had. I then looked at the info on these batteries and it turns out one was from 2019, and the other ones were from 2023. we already know that through software apple/Samsung under-clock your devices over time, as the battery ages so it can last longer, until it finally kicks the bucket. but under-clocking means you'll be getting slower and slower performance. If apple would make 1st party new batteries and if they were friendly for repair, then great. but reality is a bit different.
Apple sells them refurbished with brand new batteries so if you buy from Apple, this concern is mitigated (check the detail on how the refurbished them….i personally think they’re brand new old stock coz they’re in perfect condition)
Your premise is defective because the specific spec needed in any new iPad is a Landscape Camera. So the WiFi only 128GB 11” M2 iPad Air for $569 (Amazon) is the correct choice.
Here is the latest price in my country: iPad Air M2 128gb = $650 iPad Pro M1 128gb = $715 Last month iPad pro M2 = $767 but now the price jumped to $811
120hz display of the Pro won't cause less battery life. Don't forget it's a variable refresh rate. So it will actually reduce battery consumption.
It will though, only instances you'll go below 60hz is when you are on a still image, anything else will go at the highest possible refresh rate and the device needs to process when to use the 120hz and when to lower which requires energy to process.
Think of it this way, a single scroll on a 120hz display will always be double the 60hz display multiply that by the number of scrolls per day and you get way more, the instances of where you have it at less than 60hz occurs far less.
@@Hhhh22222-w except that isnt true. Its not static like that. The lowest promotion will go is 24, up to 120hz. Surfing the web and watching content, the refresh rate seldom goes to 120HZ. This is why promotion doesnt nearly feel as smooth as lets say a static 120hz screen. On really fast scrolling the refresh rate will indeed bump to 120hz, but most of the time the refresh rate will be as low as 24, as for the 60hz display will be set to a static 60hz.
I am a student and mostly working with chatgpt and a lot of note-taking with my apple pencil. I have a 2020 iPad Pro 11" (2nd gen) for 2 years now. My question is, should I switch to the iPad Air M2 because the Apple Intelligent feature won’t be supported on my iPad?
How big and good is this apple intelligent! Honestly that’s the only reason I’m considering
Same damn thing I’m trying to find out! If you find out let me know, and If I should find out- I’ll let YOU know.
Perfect timing, I had this exact dilemma, thank you!!
I’m a journalist and I’ve a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 with an A12Z and a magic keyboard. It works perfectly well for me as I can edit podcasts with Logic Pro or Ferrite with lots of beautiful audio plugin, news video in 4K with DaVinci Resolve or LumaFusion, edit photos in Raw, study and edit documents with Goodnotes, write pieces with Runestone (i write with Textedit on my Macs since 2009) and so on. I think I’ll not upgrade for now. For me it’s not a matter of hardware: give us a better multitasking and file management.
How is iPadOS 17 for you on your 2020 iPad? Did it slow down affect battery?
My friend has the exact same iPad he said it slowed down after years of CODM so he sold it for like ₹50K
Im considering your model (A12) used over new 😁
M2 iPad Pro user 12.9. it is literally better than the new Air. both of the M2 Pro models make way more sense.
I actually just went for a 12.9inch M1 iPad Pro. My alternative was the M2 Air. I personally don’t think I’d have been upset with the 60Hz refresh rate of the new air, but the small things like Face ID and the improved speakers is just… worth it, for me at least. The incremental increase in power from the M1 to M2 is going to be hard for me to notice with my usage, I just wanted to be able to hook it up to an external monitor so needed an M chip! Maybe I’ll make a little vacation video from time to time on it, but the seconds I save in rendering vs the money I save now, I’m excited for my new to me, M1 iPad Pro!
Had the 10.5 inch iPad Pro with promotion 256 GB 4 microphones 4 speakers for 7 years paid $800 in November 2017. I never had any issues with it still worked perfectly, but I decided to upgrade so I sold it for $300 with the first generation, Apple Pencil and the logictech keyboard case. I just bought A brand new 12.9 inch iPad Pro with the M2 chip and 256 GB of memory for $890 👈👀at BJ’s last one left. I bought the logictech keyboard combo touch for $129 on Amazon. The XDR screen is excellent compared to the iPad 11 OLED just as good no complaints. HDR is excellent too with SAME 1600 nets of brightness AS THE 11 OLED 🙍♂️
@@captaintruth3219 right m2 is a beast
I got a refurbished M2 Ipad Pro 11inch for 662$ on Amazon. No scratches on screen or body, battery health is at 96%. Loving it so far
Aaay Congrats am looking for same mode from which payer on Amazon store did you get it from. If u Don’t mind
635$! Damn, go get it
I’m trying to post the link, but it’s from Techdeals4Less
I have an M2 iPad Pro 11” and absolutely love it. It is more than sufficient for my needs and I really enjoy the better display and speakers.
The 11" does NOT have the better display. The 11" IPads have a normal LCD panel and not the much better mini-LED like in the 12.9" IPads.
@@Abakaschi I was referring to the ProMotion aspect of the display being better. I know that it has a LCD display and not MiniLED.
Awesome video! Another thing I would like to point out: if you buy from the apple certified refurbished they have already replaced the battery and outer shell, so you don't have to worry about the previous owner's batter care or any scratches. I believe that they also do a full test of all the devices that they are selling and replace any parts that don't work, so its far more trustworthy to buy directly from the apple refurbished than from someone random on ebay or facebook marketplace. Also in their new announcement only M-series chips are supported, so if you want the new update go for an m-series ipad.
Three weeks ago I picked up an M2 12.9 inch iPad Pro, one terabyte, with the Apple magic keyboard, and the Apple pencil 2, all for $1100 on Facebook marketplace. Saved over $1000 over buying the new M4 version and I’m very happy.
I recently got an Open Box Excellent condition 12.9" M2 iPad Pro with 256GB storage from Best Buy, for just $772 after taxes. Absolute steal at that price, for what it is (size, miniLED XDR display, storage capacity, and basically brand New condition). The AppleCare even goes til 10 months from when I got it. Way better than getting a stripped-down Air M2.
I went from the original iPad Air to the M1 Pro a year ago (10.9" and 11" versions). My opinion might be different than others, but here's my 2 cents. First off, I don't use these for any heavy lifting, as I have a MacBook Pro M1 for that, which is much easier for photo/video edits, etc.. Portrait camera on both makes them useless even for FaceTime calls, IMO. The M1 Pro's screen is marginally brighter, but it's not like it's burning the retina in my eyeballs either. ProMotion vs. non-ProMotion...I know many comment that it's a deal breaker for them. For me it's a marginal improvement, and the non-ProMotion didn't bother me to begin with. I don't listen to music on these, so speakers mean nothing, and I have Beat's Pro buds if that's the case. Cameras?? I have my iPhone Pro for that need. Here's what might surprise some....I hate FaceID on the M1 Pro. I missed the instant open with my index finger on the touch sensor of the Air. Needing to have my face within acceptable range of the iPad to open it...and this without my hand blocking the sensor-which it does more than half the time, to me is an inconvenience. Honestly, I didn't find the upgrade to the M1 Pro to original Air worth the extra money at the time. Like other people, I like getting the 'best' toy available, even if it's unnecessary, and this was one of those cases. To me the only reason to upgrade to the new iPads would be if you REALLY want that landscape camera. Everything else is gonna be a similar experience unless and until they make iPadOS more like a MacBook. My iPads always get hardly used because iPads are limited so much by the OS, making them by far strictly consumption devices for the overwhelming vast majority of users.
I was actually hoping to catch an M2 iPad Pro on sale after the M4s came out. I traded in a previous M1 iPad Pro due to diminished battery performance and got a good rate from Best Buy for it. As the M2 iPad Pros had not yet been reduced for a good deal, I purchased an M2 iPad Air. As soon as my return window closed, the M2 iPad Pros went on sale for essentially the same price as the M2 iPad Airs. I was a bit disappointed at first, but realize that the Air has two additional years of overall modernity and software life even though the devices have the same chip inside. The hardware adjustments, such as the horizontal camera and compatibility with the Apple Pencil Pro may be something that I come to value a year or two down the road. Overall, because of the way that I use my iPad, it probably doesn't matter that much. I was used to using an iPad Pro, but didn't really use it for pro tasks.
If I could do things all over again, I would be fine either way! 😆
Wish the old M2 pro got that landscape camera on the front
Had this dilemma almost got the M2 iPad pro but I’ve been so used to not having pro motion with my iPad mini 5 that I’ve gone with the M2 Air
SO you paid more, to get less?
@@saulgoodman2018 literally lmfaoo
It sounds crazy but I might actually consider the air for one reason: the new pencil. I use my Apple Pencil a lot and after testing it at the store, it’s difficult for me to buy a new iPad for myself without upgrading the pencil. Generally though buying used flagship is better than new budget and these iPads are no exception
@@Mejrfrog Yeah, same for me... plus the fact, that you'll get the newer iPads for 10% cheaper as a student, and even the Apple Pencil Pro for completely free right now. It's probably a good deal for non-students, but a complete waste for those, who are students. Especially, like you mentioned, for those who profit from the Pencil features. Also the fact, that I have a Macbook, kinda makes the Pro a bit useless. And I even think of upgrading to a Pro iPhone years later, which would make the Pro even more useless. 120Hz is nice and all, but not even my monitors at home are 120Hz, only 60Hz/75Hz. I would just throw out money for a bit more features + an Apple Pencil 2, which... god knows how long it will still get support.
M1 iPad Pro owner here. I have 0 reasons to upgrade.
My iPad runs just as smooth as day 1. It’s perfectly fine for procreate and Goodnotes.
I have 0 complaints. The m1 is a beast of a chip. Apple probably regrets going as hard as they did on their first iteration.
Same, I can't see any logical reason to upgrade any time soon.
Same😊 … don’t see the porpoise
Same here. Still loving the M1 Pro 12.9.
@@stpav2698nice pun. Love it. 🐬🐬
Mine has dropped incredibly in battery life despite it being 96% of it’s original capacity according to analysis reports, that’s the only reason I’m considering changing it but then again it could be because of the OS being a little more battery hungry than the older OS, also that’s like 100€ for a battery replacement from Apple so it’s a better option then trading this one in for the new pro and having to pay 600 more
This is the video I was waiting for! Thank you for your great work and congrats!! 🐬
Yay! Thank you!
I own an iPad Pro 2018 256gb 4gb Ram since release and have been editing Canon and Fuji Raw in Lightroom and GoPro 4K without major hassle.
Since about 3 years I have been using mirrorless video footage to edit in Lumafusion and that’s when stability became a bit of an issue. I also use an ssd to edit directly with, which made the iPad struggle for a bit. Exports started to fail, previewing cuts with slo-Mo’s and speedups started to crash. I had to export a lumafusion package to export it on my M1 MBP. That worked fine but it’s been a tedious process.
I ordered a new M2 iPad Pro 512gb 8gb today for what I think is a fair price for EU standards (1150 €) and I believe that it would be a significant bump up in performance. At least I hope so. It has the same Thunderbolt4 connection as the m4 and better codec support from what I’ve heard compared to the 2018 version. No Oled but that’s alright. I have been editing a lot on the original one and never had any complaints about that.
I recently got a 2018 iPad Pro and it works perfect for me. All I really use an iPad for is content consumption and very light graphics work. Like I use Canva for graphics and I MIGHT edit a few pics in the Photos app. I like the 12.9 inch model and I got a great deal on it. I also got a great deal on an ESR Magnetic Rebound keyboard case for it off eBay. I probably will eventually get the Magic Keyboard for it though.
Update: I did end up getting a Magic Keyboard for it. Another great deal on eBay lol.
🔥 Air Overheats M2 iPad Air 13 overheats, screen dims w/basic use inside! - selling it to buy M4 pro. Thought I could wait a couple years, but nope! Just doing basic work, OneNote, taking notes in class web browsing OneNote email screenshot stuff like that simple.
I am a student and mostly working with chatgpt and a lot of note-taking with my apple pencil. I have a 2020 iPad Pro 11" (2nd gen). My question is, should I switch to the iPad Air M2 because the Apple Intelligent feature won’t be supported on my iPad?
How big and good is this apple intelligent! Honestly that’s the only reason I’m considering
This is precisely what I'm doing now, looking for a used M1 Pro that already comes with the keyboard since I would love an M1 pro with a keyboard, just see it as a better use of money versus a new Air and new keyboard. On the other hand, I would probably still be OK with a used M1 Air and a used keyboard, too.
Exactly! The M1 iPP is the sweet spot at the moment. Much better product than the Air…
My iPad 3rd gen with keyboard is for sale on ebay
@@bostongmw2851 I’m searching for M processor and Magic Keyboard. Might skip Magic Keyboard though.
This was such a well-argued and thoughtful video. Good job!
Why compare a used iPad Pro M2 to a new iPad Air M2? Plenty of places are still selling NBIB iPad Pro M2s. Just picked one up from Best Buy for $400 off.
🐬 I got my iPad Pro 11'' M2 a couple weeks before the new ones released, and I agree that the screen alone is worth going for this one instead of the new iPad Air!
I had notice that the bezel of iPad Pro is a bit thin than air..
I purchased a m1 iPad Pro 12.9 from woot with 256 gb and cellular for 850.00 a couple of weeks ago after the new iPad was released . Thank you for helping me justify my purchase.🐬
I did the same.
I have the 2nd Gen 12.9 iPad Pro. Besides a degrading battery, it works just fine. 🤷🏻♂️
Have it too. Sadly it won’t upgrade to IOS 18. So I bought the M1 iPP…
I just bought a refurb 12.9 iPad Pro M1. Not a pro user, just the basic stuff of content consumption and of course music sheet when I play music on my home studio/room lol. Initially I was leaning on an M2 iPad Air, went to local Best Buy and compared the latest release line up.. I am comparing it to my son’s IPad Air 2(yes IPad Air 2 lol), i borrow it sometimes..so no matter what I choose its going to be a big upgrade/purchase performance wise. I pad pro 13 M4 was amazing blazingly fast, the airs are just dim when comparing them side by side. I just can’t justify paying over $1k for this device, i have to do reality check and tell myself many times I don’t need it and stay within budget which is $800 ish preferably below. iPad Air M2 11
is a bang for the buck and almost bought it but changed my mind and just M1 12.9 pro.. I wanted, yes, wanted the Promotion, as i plan to use it as a screen (for portability) for game consoles i plan to buy. And second, there is an apple pencil 2nd gen that my daughter doesn’t really use on her IPad mini 6th gen so it’s for me to use most of the time..bought it for $659 with the base storage. And yeah when i got it, it’s almost pristine , just a few minor very negligible scratch at the back.Im putting it into a magic keybaord most of the time anyways..from $599 on the iPad Air 11 to what i paid for with the things i wanted ticked, I’m satisfied very satisfied.. performance blows me away, again, I’m comparing it to a 10 year old iPad Air 2. I have 60 days to test it as a Best Buy total member, hopefully it wont break so I’m not forced to return it. But yeah I’m going to keep it..
Just had the exact same dilemma as you and I made the same choice! I’m just waiting for mine to arrive today/tomorrow but I’m looking forward to it!
@@JC7LG hopefully you will love it and serves you well..I love mine..I can read the notes on my music sheet better than my son’s iPad Air 2.. there’s blooming while watching movies especially dark scenes, but it’s negligible as I watch mostly on my TV..there is no perfect iPad.. again enjoy 👍
@@ChesterWilliamNimitz I got it and I love this thing! I’m working but also studying in the evening to get my commercial pilots licence and my intention was to use this for the course, hook it up to a monitor from time to time but also have the option to walk away from my desk as that’s where I work all day already. Outside of that, the occasional game here and there and watching some shows etc. Glad I went for this vs the new iPad Air! Happy to hear yours is doing well for you too!
@@JC7LG wow commercial 🧑✈️.. go for it brother.. I love aviation, someday when I hit mega millions haha.. I would love to own the eclipse 550 lol just like this iPad, it’s within my budget 👍 . Back to topic I see a lot of pilots when I watch them have their iPad minis..I used to meet and talk to a commercial pilot and a cargo pilot. Nice talking to them with some education about GA lol.. anyways. God bless brother
You always give very wise advice :) Very informative and clear. Thanks! I was following you personal channel before your move to "9to5Mac". You are keeping the same high quality.
Buying a 3 year old iPad with a 3 year old battery is a bit of a gamble you never know the health of that battery or if the iPad has any minor issues that wasn’t discovered by the resale company. Given that the battery is already 3 years old you might have to shed another $120 or so for a new battery sooner rather than later. I was able to snag an iPad Air m2 on Black Friday sale from target for $455 with the target circle discount and I added a 2 year Apple care plus for the piece of mind together I spent a little over $500 which made it a much better deal in my opinion than getting an older iPad with an older battery an no Apple warranty
For a first iPad purchase, what would you recommend between the 12.9 inch pro from 2022 and the 11 inch pro 2024? Best Buy has them on sale with just $150 dollar difference between them (the more expensive being the newer model obviously)
Just the vid I was looking for!
I am in the same situation and 100% went for an older model, specifically an m2 Ipad pro 11 for 800€ with combo touch + apple pencial and only 30 cycles of battery (the guy bought it in late 2023) For me it's the 120 Hz display and the LiDAR sensor
12:06 Do you know, if the amount of cycle of charge is also available on the iPad Pro M1? Like I guess/suppose, that you saw this info in the settings/battery…
I know that there was an update for this but it was actually working just on the IPhone 15
@@kamdemnsr2609 no, unfortunately you can't see on any iPad, I had to install a software on my PC (windows) called "iMazing" and connect the iPad to watch those details
@@kamdemnsr2609 unfortunately no, I used a PC (windows) software called "iMazing" and then connected the ipad to see these details
I own M4 Pro , but I just grabbed another brand new iPad Pro M2 11" for 799 € for a family member.
Where did you get it new?
I went with the 2022 iPad Pro 11 inch 256gig. It’s awesome
you are absolutely correct but now very hard to find the iPad Pro M2
I just ordered a new in box 2022 128gb M2 Pro for 30% less than a new 256gb 2024 Pro. The location of the camera is the biggest downside but realistically I don’t use it much for video calls and if I do, I’ll have a reason to upgrade but for what I use it for, I couldn’t justify the cost of a 2024 iPad Pro. I may regret it in the next Black Friday sales but we’ll see…
Always older version of a premium device over a midrange new device.
the M1 ipad pro second hand or refurbished is the best bang for the buck for 99% of people, you get all the benefits and literally the same experience.
I recently (after m4 ipad pro was introduced) bought a "new" (old stock) M1 ipad pro. For my purposes it is more than enough computing/graphics horsepower. And although in some respects the new OLED display on the M4 pros is very nice, for many purposes the miniLED display on the 12.9 M1 ipad pro is just as nice. I will give Apple a few more years to work out the kinks and lower the prices of OLED equipped devices.
Picked up a256gb m2 iPad Pro for 650 on eBay. 99% battery health, ~150 charge cycles which is not too bad imho and it came with a case and 3rd party Apple Pencil. I replaced both those with a used Apple Smart Keyboard Folio in amazing condition and Apple Pencil 2 for less than $90. Entire iPad Pro M2 setup in 2024 for under 800 including tax, amazing deal id say
WWDC did change a lot for me. I have a 2020 iPad Air which as performed brilliantly over the past few years and I have the magic keyboard and Apple Pencil 2. The AI features have changed the game a bit because my A14 Bionic will not have AI features which will be very helpful because I use my iPad as a note-taking tool for work and courses.
Another reason I reckon I will get an M2 iPad Pro is because when I bought the Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil I bought them with the idea that I am feature proofing my peripherals, but the newest generation has made my keyboard and pencil obsolete. So, by upgrading to an M2 iPad pro, I am now future proofing for another 5 years and making sure I do not have to buy the pencil and keyboard again and benefit from the M Series chips as well as on device AI features.
So would an A12Z for $680 canadian be outside the recommended zone? I'm thinking it might lose support before I get my years worth
Hi thanks for the video. I have an older iPad Pro 2nd gen from 2017. The battery is dead and apparently it needs another chip changed, to get it working will cost $250. Is it worth to refurbish rather than buy a new iPad Air?
🐬 this is the video i was anticipating, and I too think the pro will be better, I just love the promotion display, its the game changer. Although I'm worried if the refurbished ipads from ebay will work all fine or not?
This was a fantastic idea for a video. 😎👍
Glad you enjoyed it
a 60hz screen is always a non-starter for me.
100% agree. Once you use 120hz for an extended period of time…going back to a lower refresh rate screen makes it feel so slow! I hate that I’ve become that person…but it is what it is 😅🤷🏻♂️
@@lgthe8god182 maybe for you guys. You are techy guys so actually am I but yet I'm totally fine with my Air 60Hz. It never bothered me even using a 13 Pro 120Hz iPhone. Shouldn't be the focus.
@@TheOfficialDuBsTeC I'm even a techy guy but I just don't care about it
my phone has a 120hz screen but I just turned it down to 60 to save battery
Nintendo switch has out performed the rest in total sales. As long as everything else is good people don’t really care about the screen.
Yep same here
Very practical advise. Thank you.
Where to get the orange wallpaper from ipad pro?
the lack of 120hz alone for me it's a deal breaker on the new iPad Air with M2 chip, i would rather get a refurbished M1 iPad Pro for the same price and it's a much better device, specially to run iPad OS.
how much longer will older ipad pros be supported?
They are supported for about 7 years. The 2.Gen iPP from 2017 just runs out of support with IOS 18…
I have an iPad Pro 2017 will be keeping it for now but will look on Apple for refurbished iPad Pro 2021 or 2022 model, as mine may soon need a new battery, can get more 128 gb on a newer model, I love 120hz could never go back to 60hz now.
apple should have priced apple pencil 2 at $100 after pencil pro there is no reason to pay same price for inferior pencil just because the user is of cheaper ipad.
For me the M2 iPad Pro was the no brainer choice since I had a 2018 iPad Pro that’s starting to show its age but has a perfectly good pencil and keyboard. Saved some money and got the refurbished M2 iPad Pro and I’m very happy.
Thank you for this. I have an iPad Pro 2018 version and noticed the battery life hasn’t been great lately and was thinking of upgrading to a new iPad Air 2024 model and was looking at a comparison. I just mainly use it for watching videos or shows and don’t have any of the accessories. Just general use. My thought was the air has 128 GB and my pro only has 64 GB. So I thought I could update my storage space and get better battery plus a newer chip. But I didn’t realize the 120 refresh rate and no Face ID on the Air. So your video was very informative. I’ll ask the opinion of anyone in the comments here, is it a good idea for me to switch from you iPad Pro 2018 to the new iPad Air? Or stick with what I have since it still works fine?
I’m wondering the same thing…..
Dolphin time. I am getting an iPad 6th gen. Thank you for your video.
I got the M2 iPad Pro over the iPad Air M2 and glad I did. Almost all the specs are superior for about the same price…and the screen… amazingly so much better
I prefer just buying the 13 air and an E-ink device… some of us don’t need that 120fps.
What we do need tho, is at least an oled (maybe simpler tech like on the Samsung tabs), but Oled is the dealbreaker here.
I see that 120Hz iPhone users have no problem adapting to a 60Hz iPad. However, you should know that people who use 120Hz or higher on big devices like laptops or PC monitors find it difficult to adapt, and the iPad is in the middle of this transition.
I will upgrade eventually as my M1 iPad Pro has a damaged display.
I don’t really push the capabilities of iPad Pro but I remember that great feeling I had when I unboxed it and started using it, Magic Keyboard and Pencil, and started using it after a straight iPad.
My biggest irritation is the ff camera placement. Not just on my 1-2 times a month video calls but I also find I am very often covering the camera when I have it in hand, so FaceId doesn’t work well. Thinking of trying an external USB camera to get round the video call problem but may need to change my handling technique!
So thinking refurbed M2 iPad Pro 256Gb (about €900) v new M2 Air (Also 256Gb blue @ around €1,000 with a new pencil). Unfortunately no trade-in value for a beaten up iPad so would add Apple Care onto a new Air!
So waiting until my display completely disintegrates before making the decision…
Spend $800 2018 IPad Pro so next year I have to upgrade again since it won’t update to IOS 19? 🤔 I just use to Netflix and chill so I’ll stick with the new air model. (For myself)!fits best. Thanks for your video 🙏🏼
I have a question. I could buy a new iPad Pro 2022 11 inch for 840 US dollars. Is it worth it more than an iPad Air M2 because there isn't a big price difference
I just bought this for myself. It cost me a 1/6th more than an air but I thought it was worth it for the screen and speakers…
Agreed. M2 iPad pro 11 inch with 128 is ideal. My dilemma is iPad Air m1 256 @$450 or iPad pro M2 256gb @$650. Ideal is getting m2 pro 128gb @$550.
Is it eorth buying an Ipad pro 11" 2021 for 390€(about $330) when I could also get a Ipad air 11" 2022 for 300€(about $250. (I'm from Germany)
The us only choices Mini (size preference) iPad10 and iPad Pro. everything else is stair stepping you to more for a little more cash… I love my iPad 10 really can justify the price of iPad Air but if I’m buying that I want a iPad Pro
just got a 2022 ipad pro 11 in 256gb refurbished for only $575
Hello guys, pls help to decide me what is better if we talk about battery. Wich one is able to keep battery more? I don’t want to charge it all time. Thx in advance
Got a IPad Air 5 on offer up, no taxes. Good deal for me
🐬 I would only consider a used iPad directly from Apple. They're just like new devices.
I'm tempted towards a 5th gen iPad Pro with the M1 but it's not that easy a choice.
I have really been pondering this situation. I mostly do the usual, emails, texting, bill paying etc, but I also do some photo editing. I hav an iPad Air 3 and am considering an upgrade. I was leaning towards the air 5 or 6, but think I will look at a renewed pro m2. Thanks for your input
Does anyone knows which nilikn cover con fits ipad air 6, inches ?
Is it cover for ipad air 5 or ipad pro 2022? 😢
As there is still a lot of stock of the 2022 iPad Pro in Brazil, I compared and saw that, except for the pro Pencil, I could buy a new iPad Pro for a fraction of the price of the iPad Air, with the same processor.
Biggest issue on used iPad for up to 6 years are bad batteries. You need to swap them.
Same, if the screen needs to run at 100% brightness, my 2020 iPad Air discharges fast. However I dont even know if they can replace the battery.
Refurbished from Apple and you get a new battery
@@spede1 thats not used. refurbished is refurbished and tbh in Europe a refurbished Pro M2 is still way pricier than an Air. 11" Pro costs what a 13" Air costs.
Thanks for this, will be buying a 2nd hand M2 Pro 11" 🐬
It really doesn't make sense to buy 4-6 year old product. Most prople can use external SDDs for extea storage easily. 10gbps is extremely sufficiant. Nobody uses speaker when you have ipods. And 60hz is good at 98% of time (unless you are a gamer). Ipad air M2 is the way to go.
Im gonna get the ipad air 6th generation its cheaper in the philippines. Its only 572 dollars in my country and I can trade in my Samsung tablet for discount also. And negotiate the price for another discount in Greenhills.
I fully believe that any M series iPad Pro on the market is a better purchase than an M2 iPad Air simply because of the screen refresh rate and Face ID. That landscape camera is nice, but not that nice.
Does anyone have an early one to sell? thx indigital format yahu
I bought the refurbished M1 iPad Pro, cheaper than the new iPads and not hindered by the 60hz display. Plus it was cheaper
Get the m1 1TB from 2021. You’ll be set. 🐬
Yup exactly
I don't actually understand the point of the iPad Air. It's heavier and thicker than the pro. It's the same thickness and weight of the old Pro. Why is it Air? That moniker has no value here.
The Pro is thinner than the Air. Air has more space within its chasis than the pro.so that’s why it’s called the Air because its has more Air within than the pro.
Great insight as always. 🐬
on prime day I got the iPad air m2 used for $518 I feel fortunate.
Fernando, please, I beg of you to speak more slowly.
@@tombe1412 my English is not the best but I can understand almost everything he says.
I am still keeping my m1 iPad 64 gb 🐬
Best iPad at the moment….
Rocking my iPad Air 5 for a couple of more years!
🐬 ...... was looking to up grade as my 12.9 inch is heavy looking to shed some lbs .... after watching ill hold ......
WWDC is two weeks away! After then the Pro might be the way to go.
For Artists, the new pencil pro is more future proof and 60hz isn't a big deal. Air M2 is good
How well does the screen on the new M2 iPad Air display HDR photos & videos?
Not at all! You need Mini-LED or OLED for that! It looks like a „normal“ video on the Air…
@@simpromovie So I should get a 13”iPad Air for productivity work and keep my M1 13” iPad Pro for watching content…
@@HistoryNut-1701 I you have an M1 12.9” iPad Pro you don't need a 13" Air at all! This thing has no advantage...
@@simpromovie Aside from a more powerful processor, and the Facetime Camera in the proper place.
@@HistoryNut-1701 Yes, but the difference between M1 and M2 on an iPad is neglectable. On the other hand you have the much better 120 Hz mini-LED display with HDR support, much better sound and Thunderbolt...
For the camera do your Facetime in portrait mode...
Buy the M2 Pro. The Air's 60Hz screen stutters horribly, and the difference in speaker quality between the Pro and the Air is overwhelming (the Pro 11 is better than the Air 13). Touch ID is very inconvenient on a large tablet, but with the Pro, you get Face ID that works from four directions. Additionally, the M2 Air has one fewer GPU core compared to the M2 Pro (Air: 9 cores, Pro: 10 cores), and the Pro supports Thunderbolt and USB4. The rear flash and LiDAR scanner are exclusive to the Pro. The Air's display bezel is thicker than the Pro's, and the device itself is unnecessarily thicker. Even accessories like the Magic Keyboard do not fit perfectly with the Air. Also, the Air does not support front-facing portrait photos. There is a significant difference in microphone quality as well (the Pro comes with studio-quality microphones). Just buy the Pro. The differences are too great. The only thing the Air does better is running the Apple Pencil Pro on its dreadful 60Hz fixed screen.
Oh, and the Pro also comes with a dual-camera setup that includes an ultra-wide camera. Additionally, despite having the same M2 chip, the Air lacks the ProRes encoding and decoding engine. And the Pro's display is 100 nits brighter.
Exactly what I did
Face ID made big difference for daily use.
While that might sound good. remember that batteries get old, and its not something that is easily fixed in today's climate. Even if a battery has not been used and been sitting idle, it is degrading.
small story on my end. last year I bought a set of lithium ion batteries for some hardware. One of the batteries wasn't charging to full, and would discharge rather quickly. I thought that all it needed was a few charges, as some controllers that are built into the complex batteries need a bit of calibration. well it never got better. my other batteries were charging to full, and would easily last nearly 3x longer than this one black sheep battery that I had. I then looked at the info on these batteries and it turns out one was from 2019, and the other ones were from 2023.
we already know that through software apple/Samsung under-clock your devices over time, as the battery ages so it can last longer, until it finally kicks the bucket. but under-clocking means you'll be getting slower and slower performance. If apple would make 1st party new batteries and if they were friendly for repair, then great. but reality is a bit different.
Apple sells them refurbished with brand new batteries so if you buy from Apple, this concern is mitigated (check the detail on how the refurbished them….i personally think they’re brand new old stock coz they’re in perfect condition)
Your premise is defective because the specific spec needed in any new iPad is a Landscape Camera. So the WiFi only 128GB 11” M2 iPad Air for $569 (Amazon) is the correct choice.
Cool video to do. It’s all about the M1 Pro but only positive for new device is a new battery
any M series CPU ipads is good now, unlike the laptops or PCs running full MAC OS they all will be bottle neck by iPadOS anyways.
I don't trust a guy living in 2024 with 1980s moustache and mullet
Here is the latest price in my country:
iPad Air M2 128gb = $650
iPad Pro M1 128gb = $715
Last month iPad pro M2 = $767 but now the price jumped to $811
J’ai réussi à trouver neuf l’iPad Pro 12,9 M2 au prix du iPad Air M2
🐬🐬🐬🐬great video bro🐬🐬🐬🐬