Should you buy an iPad OR Macbook?

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  • @ThatMarkGilroy
    @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +19

    If you had a fixed budget of $1000 / £1000, what portable device would you buy?

    • @techhubwiltsuk
      @techhubwiltsuk 2 місяці тому +18

      @@ThatMarkGilroy a second hand m1 MacBook Air and a iPad Pro m1 second hand! Best of both worlds 🤪😉

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +3

      @@techhubwiltsuk Love this choice. 👍🏻

    • @Qdiglet
      @Qdiglet 2 місяці тому +4

      Having originally gone for just a 13” iPad Pro for uni this year, and then being essentially forced to also then get a 16” Macbook (required for testing, literally CANNOT use the iPad), I FAR prefer the iPad between the two devices. It’s infinitely better for note taking - particularly when handwriting is dang near a necessity (math, chem, etc.) and well, a touch screen is insanely handy in general for intuitiveness. If I was forced to have only one, I’d also be forced to take the MacBook since there are things that iPadOS locks you out of (testing lol), but otherwise an iPad is 90% of the time just “better” for my personal use cases. I like what @techhubwiltsuk said, 2nd hand of both in order to still fit the budget is absolutely the move!

    • @arpsichord7474
      @arpsichord7474 2 місяці тому +1

      Asus vivobook with at least a Ryzen 7. And a google pixel 8.

    • @patilsatyajit
      @patilsatyajit 2 місяці тому +2

      @@techhubwiltsukactually your final thought has much more sense to it & thank you for sharing it..i have a ipad pro 11 2018 model and it still works very well..but as you explained it is great for media consumption( watching movies,youtube, playing games etc)..i have now work on ms word and data transfer, some editing now i am thinking of getting mackbook air..because there is no need to upgrade the ipad as it is working so smooth till now…so nice of u to suggest such a thing….

  • @YoghurtEquity
    @YoghurtEquity 2 місяці тому +172

    agreed !
    I simplify my life like this:
    Mac = work. formal. produce.
    iPad = play. casual. consume.
    imo.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +3

      @@YoghurtEquity I like that distinction.

    • @abhishekkr4004
      @abhishekkr4004 2 місяці тому +22

      I simplify it differently
      ipad = play. casual. consume
      mac = play. casual. consume but with multiple tabs
      iphone = play. casual. consume and reels
      work = work laptop provided by company

    • @mosijahi3096
      @mosijahi3096 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ThatMarkGilroy you can use an iPad as casual if you want but many use there IPads professionally and it’s not just artist, teaches, doctors, airline pilots, coaches, just a few.

    • @k.vn.k
      @k.vn.k 2 місяці тому +4

      I use iPad for both professional and casual. It knows it is a versatile product and does excellent job. I am engineer and bring laptop to site visit.

    • @anttikivi
      @anttikivi 2 місяці тому +4

      Fully agreeing, however the mini 6, works very well as a travel companion, I've access to 98% of the systems at my work etc.

  • @darwincruz20
    @darwincruz20 2 місяці тому +53

    I have been using an iPad 10th gen as my main computer for 6 months now. I have learned a workflow that works for me and my life and work is pretty simple. I need a pencil input so…. Yeah. Love your work bro! Keep it up.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +8

      Thanks mate. So many people sleeping on that 10th gen model!

    • @iPhoneMuseum
      @iPhoneMuseum 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ThatMarkGilroyI’m using a iPad Air 5

    • @mkleng
      @mkleng 2 місяці тому +3

      Me too, hardly touch my MacBook pro now. The workflow irks much better than Mac. I’m not a creative btw, but a consultant in a bank

    • @MrGroganmeister
      @MrGroganmeister Місяць тому +3

      It’s a good thing you never do anything serious in excel or access.

  • @himpat8
    @himpat8 2 місяці тому +39

    MacBook is a creation device.
    iPad is a consumption device.
    I am a teacher and have been using keynote on MacBook for creating content and iPad for presenting while teaching and annotating as I teach.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +4

      @@himpat8 Wow- that’s really interesting. I’m that guy who’s always reaching for flipcharts in meetings and presentations. I’d never think to hook up my iPad and start annotating but I’ll definitely be trying that.

    • @clastra9392
      @clastra9392 Місяць тому +2

      Personally, I use my IPad Air M2 as a creative device. I use it to draw and animate, photo edit and write comics.

  • @techhubwiltsuk
    @techhubwiltsuk 2 місяці тому +98

    Finally, someone can explain the problem comparing iPad with MacBooks and put so elegantly with the paper and scissor analogy

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +13

      @@techhubwiltsuk I was trying to find a stone to throw into the analogy to complete the trio!

    • @stephenfiore9960
      @stephenfiore9960 Місяць тому +4

      …i think a more appropriate analogy would have been a writing note pad compared to a word processor. Both these you can write on. Papers & scissors have nothing in common

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому +2

      @stephenfiore9960 Unless you add a rock into the mix. Then you’re talking.

    • @rahulsawhney1279
      @rahulsawhney1279 Місяць тому +1

      This is the dumbest comment ever.

  • @Picantepantz
    @Picantepantz 2 місяці тому +39

    For $1,000 the M1 Mac Mini with a monitor and an M1 IPad Air would be an amazing combo.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +9

      I love this set-up! If you weren't picky with your monitor you could have a bit of change left over too.

    • @ItsOnPaper
      @ItsOnPaper 12 днів тому +1

      Need a keyboard and mouse too, that’s another $100 at least.

  • @scalebuildersguild
    @scalebuildersguild 2 дні тому +1

    I really appreciated this ACTUAL comparison. I'm hovering between choices, but you've brought a lot of excellent arguments to the decision. I'm curious about the skin you've got on your MacBook, and iPad. Where did they come from? Thanks!

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 дні тому +1

      Thanks buddy. The skins I use are from dbrand- the Macbook one is called "Sea Breeze".

    • @scalebuildersguild
      @scalebuildersguild 2 дні тому

      @@ThatMarkGilroy Brilliant, thank you!

  • @LeesReviews69
    @LeesReviews69 2 місяці тому +8

    My first iPad was the iPad 2 I was 23. For a solid 2 years I used my iPad as a serious phone! Some 8 generations later I have the 13” iPad Pro M4 and I love it like I did back then.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +2

      @@LeesReviews69 That’s really interesting. My friend was telling me at the weekend how he can’t wait to downgrade his iPhone to a dumb phone and buy a new iPad to get everything else done.

  • @RidingLifesRoads
    @RidingLifesRoads 2 місяці тому +18

    I made the mistake of an iPad for work, then realised it’s just a big iPhone. Buy a MacBook, don’t make the same mistake. You can’t even put a professional footer in an email on an iPad “Pro” - Not very “Pro”.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +6

      @@RidingLifesRoads yeah I think you’d have to have a VERY specific use case to make iPad work as a generic work computer. BTW - some apps will let you add professional footers to your email regardless of device (Spark Mail is a good one).

  • @georgewashington3012
    @georgewashington3012 2 місяці тому +22

    I was more impressed with the iPad Mini at the store today more than the iPad Pro. I won’t buy it until they make major improvements to the display, however. ProMotion is badly needed and I hope they drastically thin those absurdly thick bezels which not only look bad but waste potential display space on a tiny tablet where real estate should be maximized.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +2

      @@georgewashington3012 fingers crossed for a bit of news this week on the Mini front 🤞🏼

    • @lululemon0424
      @lululemon0424 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ThatMarkGilroydon’t expect too much. foldable iphone is the way Apple to go with small ios based tablet. they do not care much for ipad mini.

  • @Pronellyllon
    @Pronellyllon 2 місяці тому +6

    Last year, I decided to get the iPad. My reasoning was that the iPad is good enough for private useage. At work, we use a MacBook and I use my iPad to complement the MacBook to have an iPad + MacBook setup. This allowed me to work paperless.

  • @nadrile
    @nadrile Місяць тому +4

    During last years of my studies I used iPad Pro with pen. Didn’t have to carry half a dozen notebooks depending on the day and file them for later reference.
    I could’ve used a laptop similarly. But it’s much faster to write equations than type them. And iPad was much nicer to read on. Be it notes, books or browsing the net.
    Other than that, a laptop is a lot more versatile, especially for someone who codes.
    For my aunt I would just recommend an iPad. Not other tablets have the same support.

  • @Tio-n1p
    @Tio-n1p 18 днів тому +1

    I just bought my first iPad ever and got the mini! So far I love it ! Fits good in my hands yet I can watch vids and play games better on this. When I get home from work I enjoy eating and watching UA-cam on my phone. But with this baby it’s a game changer

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  18 днів тому

      It’s an awesome gaming device. I’ll be making a dedicated video about this soon!

  • @JeadilsonBezerra
    @JeadilsonBezerra 2 місяці тому +5

    I use a PC at work so I do not need a desktop at home for anything work related. So an iPad fits my use case perfectly. I do my browse research with notes app floating. So much easier to transfer images and links from safari.
    For my budget control the Numbers app although it’s very limited in its iPadOS version, still handle with easy a simple domestic sheet.
    With iCloud Drive (or any other cloud service) I can sync my files, share and manage with ease at Files app.
    I use a 12,9” iPad Pro due my eyesight. But I know the basic ipad will be enough for me.

  • @jimtipton8888
    @jimtipton8888 2 місяці тому +6

    Well done video! I have both. I use both. I use the iPad more, both for work and for play. They are both really great devices in their own way. Feel fortunate to have both.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +2

      @@jimtipton8888 Thanks Jim. I’m using mine more too!

  • @ashenone5774
    @ashenone5774 Місяць тому +5

    just sold my iPad Pro M3 13" because I bought it on hope that it will replace my MacBook Air and it never worked! Apple doesn't want the iPad to be a laptop replacement no matter how we try to adapt it won't work by the current state of iPadOS.

  • @jirvin4505
    @jirvin4505 25 днів тому +2

    Browsing and note taking so easy on my iPad. Swipe up gesture from bottom left for screen shot if needed… swipe gesture from bottom right to open up quick notes. The link is already highlighted to add (one tap). It will add link with highlighted text from web page. Then a tap to add the screenshot. Been a game changer for browsing and taking notes. Don’t use MacBook anymore

  • @elijahdelacruz3204
    @elijahdelacruz3204 Місяць тому +3

    This, I haven’t seen any other tech reviewer put it so elegantly and finally said that each have their specific use cases. Trying to fully replace the Macbook with the iPad just wont work. Buy one that suits your needs.
    For me personally, I’m the type who can take advantage of and need both devices strengths. I have a Windows gaming laptop though not a mac as I play alot of pc games, but since that thing is so powerful it’s also become my main productivity device especially for video editing and general productivity. My iPad is relegated to media consumption, sending and replying to emails, note taking, and the other type of creative work that being drawing and digital graphics for my advertising classes. This is why I sprung for the complete package of an M2 11 inch iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and magic keyboard. Funnily enough, I found that the iPad and Apple Pencil combo is perfect for Duolingo’s learning how to write a new language 😂

  • @IcemanTheDj
    @IcemanTheDj 16 днів тому +2

    I have Macbook Air and an iPad 10. I am in audio side of things and yeah... every device has his side of work to do. Is great when you have both. They complement each other. If one aford only one, go for Mac! Only if you use that pencil in your artwork, you need an iPad I guess! I just talked from my point of view! Great explanatory video! 👍

  • @momotaroux264
    @momotaroux264 2 місяці тому +2

    I’d honestly save up to have both. Any M chip MacBook and an iPad mini I think is great for anyone. Just depends on your use case and how crazy you want to go with your MacBook budget. I use an M3 Max for school and also dabbling with AI, and my iPad mini is perfect for media consumption and note taking with the pencil.

  • @אלוןאנגל-ה9ש
    @אלוןאנגל-ה9ש 29 днів тому +2

    Here’s an easy way to think about it. If you need a iPad for studies, just buy the mini version. It will provide you exactly what you need and not anything. Molly won’t give you just a small screen for writing drying sketching, and everything else that is and needs it to have an iPad for in any other big job just do it on a PC or on a MacBook

  • @matthewsachaullymce279
    @matthewsachaullymce279 Місяць тому +2

    nice thought!. btw I would think that comparing iPad and Mac is a bit irrelevant. My job is a Data Center Engineer, at home I work using MacMini with 50” display to do detail design, but when I visit the construction site (more time here than home) I use my 11” m1 iPad Pro as I work on my feet where most of the time standing and walking cheking the installation vs my drawings on iPad as well as jot some sketches on drawings for discrepancies , this situation would never fit with clamshell computer especially you need a rugged case to protect the gadget from falling. With that said, iPad and Mac have two different world of usage.

  • @amarug
    @amarug Місяць тому +2

    i bought both and lug them around together everywhere i go. i hate and love it all the time

  • @HakimeEdel
    @HakimeEdel Місяць тому +2

    Depends what you need and what you do

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      That's the TL;DR version of this video, for sure!

    • @HakimeEdel
      @HakimeEdel Місяць тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroy but i will personally choose ipad air because i don’t need pro version and also is much much more expensive, also i have imac 🖥️ m1 but i will see to change for no mac laptop or table new iMac because of so high price

  • @Anwrimos23
    @Anwrimos23 2 місяці тому +4

    I want to own only a smartphone and a laptop, to simplify my life and live as minimal as possible. The more devices you own the more stress you put on your everyday life, for example: to upgrade a device and this can affect also your budget significantly. For example if you own an iPhone,Iwatch,Ipad,macbook,airpods etc. and you upgrade all of them every 3-5 years, it is an insane increase in your budget, when you can put all this money on stock or cryptos and make you more money. I mean it is definitely not a good investment. Also increasing the number of devices surely will increase also your subrscriptions to stream platflorms with an extra cost.

  • @craigdaly5111
    @craigdaly5111 Місяць тому +1

    Also make sure to select the correct memory for your needs! I bought a 10th gen iPad and it’s almost ‘memory is full’ stage

  • @entertainmentgamingcomedy9625
    @entertainmentgamingcomedy9625 29 днів тому +1

    Extremely high quality and helpful video. Thanks for all your hard work Mark!

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  29 днів тому

      @@entertainmentgamingcomedy9625 Thanks mate. 👍🏻

  • @jpoviedr
    @jpoviedr 2 місяці тому +7

    I’m so tempted to buy an iPad Pro, but the way I use iPad honestly I’d be fine with a lower end model, really interested in the upcoming iPad mini. Besides I already have a MacBook.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +5

      Oh yes I’m keeping my ear to the ground for Mini news!

    • @jpoviedr
      @jpoviedr 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ThatMarkGilroy yeah I figured I better wait to see what the mini 7 is like before deciding, iPad Pro would break the bank a little bit too much to end up regretting it

    • @TheKurtLyon
      @TheKurtLyon 2 місяці тому +1

      Awaiting as well. Will the iPad mini 7 be announced tomorrow, or in an October event.

  • @RealJustinZiegler
    @RealJustinZiegler Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for all your help!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому +2

      @@RealJustinZiegler That’s so kind- cheers buddy. My pleasure.

  • @kennethholden
    @kennethholden 2 місяці тому +5

    Buy MacBook, obviously an iPad is not a MacBook, the functionality of many apps is not the same, if you need to be highly productive, obviously buy a MacBook I would never substitute a MacBook with an iPad unless I was just surfing the Internet and checking email

  • @teresmajor7956
    @teresmajor7956 23 дні тому +2

    I think they are 2 devices that complement each other pretty well, while overlapping some of the use-cases but not all. You wouldnt want a touch based device that works like MacOs because UX principles of touch and mouse are quite different and it would make ipad less intuitive

  • @abhishekkr4004
    @abhishekkr4004 2 місяці тому +8

    It is pretty easy choice if you use the products as intended by the manufacturer instead of forcing your own ideas.

  • @arjaylee
    @arjaylee Місяць тому +2

    MacBook Air for in studio. iPad Pro for out and about. Probably overspent but I’m happy.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      @@arjaylee If you’re happy, you didn’t overspend!

    • @arjaylee
      @arjaylee Місяць тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroy I’m just irresponsible and immature. 😝

  • @YoghurtEquity
    @YoghurtEquity 2 місяці тому +13

    with a ~$1k budget, any device with macOS.
    here's my reasoning:
    one could always read a book on a cumbersome MacBook, but not always do intense workflows on iPad.

    • @codexous
      @codexous 2 місяці тому +4

      I have to agree with ya, although, the *one* thing the mac simply cannot do is take notes 😔

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +1

      Yep. Can totally see this reasoning.

    • @seapanda-117
      @seapanda-117 2 місяці тому +2

      @@codexousI have Apple notes and obsidian on my MacBook? Do you just mean that it’s more cumbersome to do so, because that is definitely true.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +2

      I imagine they mean hand-written notes.

  • @deepshallows
    @deepshallows 2 місяці тому +2

    Couldn’t decide. Got both. ✅

  • @Nimhur
    @Nimhur 2 дні тому +1

    I mostly do my creative works (illustration and video editing) on Ipad pro, definitly worth it for Procreate (not expensive and intuitive) . also to read books or comics it's perfect. I bought the keyboard but mostly because I write a lot. But don't use ipad for coding, it really depends on why you use it

  • @alexpitt4583
    @alexpitt4583 2 місяці тому +4

    I think if you already own a laptop or a pc , than yes buy the iPad i only use my iPad for 99% for collage and the 1% on my MacBook Air , And the only reason i need my MacBook Air is because the iPad sucks for coding.

  • @patrickcallahan2885
    @patrickcallahan2885 2 місяці тому +1

    I actually have both now, I have used an iPad as my primary computer since the iPad 2nd Generation, and currently have the iPad Pro M1, 11” with keyboard and pencil. Two years ago I bought my first MacBook Air M2, (however I did own a Mac Mini 2012).
    I use my MacBook Air at work (in an office environment) doing office things. These days I use my iPad for consumption and taking on airplane trips. And don’t forget the AirPods Pro. I find both have their use cases.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      Ha, I realised as I was editing this that after listing all those 'pro' devices I'd forgotten the Airpods Pro and Pro Max.

  • @mtnguy
    @mtnguy 10 днів тому +1

    Personally, I don’t like using iPads because they don’t have a formal desktop. I like seeing everything on the screen and not having to use my fingers to tap. It’s more traditional in my eyes, to use a keyboard and mouse/trackpad. Previously I had a 2014 MacBook Pro which gave out last year and so now I have an air which I love. It’s about as close to an iPad you can get but the keyboard and mouse comes with it. I’m not doing anything crazy on it either, so there’s that. Thanks for the advice.

  • @jeanpaul512
    @jeanpaul512 16 днів тому +1

    MacBook changed my entire workflow for the better, hands down a better buy. My iPad is pretty much for reviewing my final photos/designs etc

  • @Adamoji
    @Adamoji 2 місяці тому +2

    Why choose between the two? My advice would be to get a Mac mini paired with the M2 iPad Air. With education discounts you can get both for around $1000 before tax. For me this is perfect because I have a powerful Mac computer when I’m at home and a highly portable iPad which can do anything I need to do on the go. I’m not a video editor so if you’re a professional this may not work for you. But for students or everyday people I would recommend this setup if you’re on a tight budget. You get the best of both worlds.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      Yep - I make this point in my conclusion. No real point having two portable devices.

    • @carbb5760
      @carbb5760 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe this is a dumb question- can the iPad say a 13” be plugged into the mac mini and used just as the monitor? This is the setup I’m thinking about using. iPad and Mac mini, but I am weary of just buying and owning too much stuff. Instead of having multiple keyboards and another mouse etc just one device that can function as a tablet and be plugged into the mini and used as a pc

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      @carbb5760 Not at all- happy to help! You wouldn’t need a cable to do this as it’ll work wirelessly as long as your iPad and Mac are on the same Apple ID. See use case 1 in this older video I made ua-cam.com/video/ulULpDwnqm4/v-deo.htmlsi=kYLY65mcMSaiilZZ

  • @rickatkinson1000
    @rickatkinson1000 Місяць тому +1

    Very detailed analysis. For me the bulk of my work is writing and document management. A few years ago I made the jump from macOS to iOS. iOS was mature enough to address my needs.
    In time I sold off my Mac hardware. I didn’t want duplicate gear on my desk and on the road. Now I use an iPad Pro M2. I have a Samsung monitor at home and some cables. Now my hardware is firmly iPhone and iPad. I even changed my email address from .macOS to iOS.
    About price. Whew both platforms are expensive with little difference in price.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      Thanks Rick. I think you must have been one of the earlier adopters of an iPad-only setup!

    • @rickatkinson1000
      @rickatkinson1000 Місяць тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroy Indeed. I waited and waited. Then I pulled the trigger at iPad 15. I also concluded the two platforms are different. iPad is fast and fun for sure. No more hierarchal filing. Let Spotlight retrieve those files. As Steve Jobs would have wanted😀
      BTW I use a Logitech keyboard case. Better protection. It has held up very well. I take my iPad every where.

  • @frontstandard1488
    @frontstandard1488 Місяць тому +1

    I just bought a MacBook Pro 16 M1 new for £1249. I do photography seriously, that's its main use 512gb is fine. Screen and ability were my needs. Nearly went with an iPad but the software is the issue. I buy most of my tech from the last generation or two. Cameras and lenses too.

  • @markfirth1681
    @markfirth1681 Місяць тому +1

    I’d like to do way less busy work in my business and the idea of an iPad is tempting because it will force me to do that

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Mark. Yep, it’s odd, but the way the software is setup makes it almost impossible to multi task and get distracted. I take mine out with me for massive writing sessions and photo edits and leave the MacBook behind.

    • @markfirth1681
      @markfirth1681 Місяць тому

      @@ThatMarkGilroy that’s exactly why it’s attractive. I got the remarkable e ink device and that is amazing and also distraction free and that got me thinking about the iPad

  • @Traumatree
    @Traumatree 12 днів тому +1

    The 'trap' as you called it, is iPadOS that is preventing a true computer like experience on the iPad equipped with the M chip.
    And as you said, adding a keyboard, a pencil and a cover adds up to the iPad that it is not really worth the price: you can still watch Netflix on your MacBook and do a lot more (like having you iPhone on it - really neat feature), and true multitasking as well as the the real apps, not the downgraded one from the AppStore.
    The very best offering right now from Apple is their 14" MacBook Pro base + bump SDD to 512GB or 1TB. All the rest is enough for 99% of people.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  12 днів тому

      Yep. I have a new video coming out today comparing the iPad Pro M4 to the new iPad Mini. It’s interesting how similar they are in terms of handling all manner of apps (including ‘pro’ ones).

  • @pug_63
    @pug_63 2 місяці тому +3

    Waiting impatiently for the new iPad Mini. Hoping it gets announced tomorrow, but will wait (til October?) if I have to.
    Thanks for the content.

  • @scaramaxxx
    @scaramaxxx 2 місяці тому +3

    That is what is the ipad for: netflix and news. Have some old one (with home button, no idea which gen) and is perfectly enough: for work have S23 ultra and win laptop with dock. Working on ipad is for me unnecesary compromise in all aspects, just worthless stretch:)

  • @samgreenfield6220
    @samgreenfield6220 6 днів тому

    Personally I haven’t used my MacBook since getting 13” iPad Pro M4.. For 95% of my work and personal needs iPad is perfect. Want to do stuff like excel don’t get an iPad like it works but lacking features. But as an electrician, all the apps I use have iPad versions. The Apple Pencil is a must. I don’t really use a keyboard, just talk to it and it types it for you!

  • @sookythehousecat
    @sookythehousecat 2 місяці тому +1

    Loved to see the pre-“sweetened” video/audio!

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +1

      My studio is REALLY wet / echo-y. Thank goodness I can sort it out in post!

  • @John_Pither
    @John_Pither 7 днів тому +1

    I tried using the larger iPad Pro as my "travel computer" for the last 5 years. It was fine, as others have said, for _consuming_ content, but for editing photos and such while away from home, it fell short…and I ended up trading my last one (an M2) for credit. Based my experience, unless someone has a compelling reason for the pencil, I think a MacBook Air would be the way to go.

  • @mendodave
    @mendodave 2 місяці тому +1

    Just based on the title I would recommend buying both. If you have one of the things then get the other one. Both devices compliment each other.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +1

      Can recommend watching the video for my take on this. The conclusion if nothing else!

    • @mendodave
      @mendodave 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroyRight. So I just got around to watching the video because the Apple product announcement played this morning and I had to take care of a few other things. But for years my setup was a Desktop Mac Mini, then an iMac with an iPad as my portable. It wasn’t until last year that I bought my first MacBook and it was the first laptop I’ve owned since 2012. I’ve found that by using the Desktop Mac the “Mother ship” as it were and all the other devices part of the ecosystem surrounding that you end up with a very smooth flowing computing ecosystem with plenty of convince and redundancy. People seem to want to get one device thats going to do everything, and that’s just not the way it works. Is it more expensive? Yes it is but it also works better, and because Apple devices last a long time you don’t have to get everything all at once. Just get something new once a year or so and add it to your productivity flow.
      If you’re new to Apple I recommend getting a Mac mini and add a keyboard mouse and monitor, get an Apple Phone, then get an iPad. It’s going to be unlike anything you’ll get from Windows and android. You can upgrade your setup later.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      @@mendodave Loved these insights. Thanks sir.

  • @mil546
    @mil546 Місяць тому +2

    I want to ask what kind of trap mouse trap or glue trap. Thank you for the video very helpful.

  • @robertgrabowski2265
    @robertgrabowski2265 29 днів тому +1

    Its simple answer. If you have money buy both. If not, but macbook if you need computer and production or iPad if you need Pad for consuming staff.

  • @adilal-zadjali9627
    @adilal-zadjali9627 Місяць тому +1

    Finally someone make it easy and simple for me thanks bro

  • @CosmicApe
    @CosmicApe Місяць тому +1

    I’m pretty conflicted about it, particularly with the latest M4 iPad Pro. All in with a 1TB model and keyboard (with discounts from Best Buy) I think it’s around $2,000. The 1TB gets you the increase in RAM which I think is important. The M4 iPad Pro is a strong performer, snappy and quick with everything, and the tandem OLED screen is insanely gorgeous. It’s been touted as the best OLED screen you can buy on any device, period. I’ve enjoyed using the iPad, but it does feel limited. I’m not a laptop power user and don’t need my laptop for a ton of stuff, and I enjoy the portability of the iPad and how it can be a regular tablet if you want (and drawing too). The iPad can do things a MacBook can never do, but the same goes the other way. It’s also a learning curve adjusting to new workflows and more “app-based” usage. The jury is still out on whether I’m going to stick with iPad full time as my only device. On one hand, I seem to do everything I need to do. The other, it’s a little funky at times. But it’s also an insanely pretty display, good performing, and fun as an iPad… it’s tough for sure.
    Edit: I’ll add, media consumption on iPad is great. I watched a 3.5hr movie on a flight and my battery only went down 2%…

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      @@CosmicApe Great analysis. I’ve been a MacBook user for a while now but I’m starting to think for people who have a desk-based Mac like an iMac or Studio, the iPad fills that portability gap really well. It’s tough justifying having both an iPad and MacBook as the crossover is so big.

  • @Doublepulse
    @Doublepulse Місяць тому +1

    I’m not wrong thinking that the iPad was always a computer that focuses on a touch based user experience and the MacBook being a traditional computing experience.
    They both do similar tasks exceptionally well but in different ways. What do you prefer is what it comes down to most of the time.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому +1

      Yep. I feel the same frustration when people talk about bringing touch to the Mac. Let them be their own things.

    • @Doublepulse
      @Doublepulse Місяць тому +2

      @@ThatMarkGilroy I've always enjoyed working on creative stuff like photo editing and video editing more on my iPad because it allows you to use your hands more and I feel a bit more productive because of the limited multi-tasking. The only limitation has been very specific to some software choices and the reality with app switching is that we don't use one app for everything anymore.
      It strikes that balance of being focused on one task vs multi-tasking and the focus on one thing adds more to the productivity.
      I almost argue if you want to actually get stuff done and stay organized. You may be better with an iPad if software constraints do not bother you. There is almost an app for everything now. Including the screensharing possibilities.
      Even livestreaming gameplay with your camera on an ipad is now possible. I only found issues with web based platforms that rely on the cloud a lot. I'm still waiting for a native Descript application for my editing.

  • @Dans-TechRide
    @Dans-TechRide Місяць тому +1

    Finally, the BEST video on that matter.

  • @jamesecurtis1705
    @jamesecurtis1705 Місяць тому +1

    It’s not complicated. I use my iPad far more than i ever use my Mac. I would say it’s a 90/10 ration. In fact i might go weeks or months before I even open my Mac.

  • @stu-pid_66
    @stu-pid_66 Місяць тому +1

    Wow, where have you been on my UA-cam feed? Subscribed. Fantastic video

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому +1

      That’s funny- I was about to ask where you’d been on my subscriber feed! Thanks mate- welcome to the club.

    • @stu-pid_66
      @stu-pid_66 Місяць тому

      @@ThatMarkGilroy 😂

  • @Dronerangerspro
    @Dronerangerspro 13 днів тому +2

    “Great info! It’s painfully clear that Apple could make a MacBook that works with an Apple Pencil, or heck, just one magical device that does it all. But nooo, they’re too busy being marketing wizards, crafting a lineup of gadgets that we absolutely need-I mean want-one of each, please! Gotta hand it to them, they’re genius at setting us up for ‘one more thing’… and that’s the ‘trap’ you were talking about, isn’t it?”

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  13 днів тому

      Yep. There are multiple traps to be fair. The one that’s really clear to me when thinking about the iPad vs MacBook dilemma is that there’s JUST enough overlap between models and specs that you’re often tempted to go a bit further than you can afford to get something that’s a better performing device.
      Thinking about the iPad Air 13”? Once you add in storage options and accessories, you’re forced into thinking that you might as well go for the iPad Pro instead and get all that M4 glory.

  • @fikretsaygnguner8450
    @fikretsaygnguner8450 2 місяці тому +1

    I have bought almost all Mac models for different purposes and uses.
    The common feature of all of them is that they have M1 chip. For example,
    Studio M1 max,
    MacBook pro 16" M1 pro,
    MacBook Air 13.3" M1,
    Mac Mini M1,
    iPad pro 5th gen M1.
    My job is day trading and music. I can honestly say that I couldn't even push the processors. I use 3 4k monitors with Mac studio. I haven't even heard the fan noise yet.
    The reason I am writing these is that if you don't know the processor power required for the job you are doing, don't go for the latest model m4 m3 processors.
    Maybe you just need more RAM. I am extremely happy with every device I have purchased.
    If you have any questions, I can answer them.

    • @turuparturu
      @turuparturu Місяць тому

      Actually, I’d have a question. Which would you recommend for moderate 4k video and 24megapixel camera raw photo editing that would last me another 7 years? Macbook Pro M2 with 16 gigs Ram, Macbook Air M3, 16GB, or something else altogether?

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      @turuparturu If those are your main use cases and you’re thinking about longevity, I’d be looking at any M-series MacBook Pro. The Air will do those tasks admirably if your main concern is having a light device, but if you can get one of the M-Pro or M-Max processors that only come in the Pro models, you’ll be future proofing for years and years.

    • @turuparturu
      @turuparturu Місяць тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroyThank you immensely🙏

    • @FxTre
      @FxTre 19 днів тому

      Do you think the base model IPad Pro 13” M4 is good for Day trading, Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro? Thanks!

    • @fikretsaygnguner8450
      @fikretsaygnguner8450 19 днів тому +1

      New Mac mini is the solution for what you need guyz
      Dont spend too much

  • @marcgomez6404
    @marcgomez6404 9 днів тому +1

    My opinion- after years of using IPad Air, you can do more with a MacBook. I switched to MacBook Air

  • @benjaminbrown5245
    @benjaminbrown5245 Місяць тому +9

    I didn’t even get through the whole video. I want to state this. The iPad is like the coworker for the iPhone. You should have both actually. The iPad is wonderful for iCloud and other computing and for the moment tablet stuff and the iPhone is great for a lot of computing and phone usage. I have to say that the Mac though is very important and why you might ask? Well, the Mac is the boss of the iPad and iPhones. The Mac is there to run everything. You are able to use the computer to run all your daily equipment. The iPad you can’t do that. But if you have the computer it is going to oversee everything. You can update your iPad and phone with the Mac and back all your info to the Mac. So really some people think that the Mac is the coworker for the iPhone three are actually coworkers but that is not true. The iPhone and iPad are coworkers but the computer is the superior and the boss of them. The computer is the one that tells them what do to. The Mac is their one that tells the iPad and iPhones what to do. The Mac runs the show actually. But if you are going out to a meeting or to a coffee shop the iPad is great even your iPhone but the Mac is very important.

    • @ToadstoolFilms
      @ToadstoolFilms 20 днів тому +1

      And yet you couldn’t use any of your insight to put in a paragraph or two.

    • @benjaminbrown5245
      @benjaminbrown5245 19 днів тому

      @ and do you know their is a thing called wrap around you don’t have to use the enter key when typing anymore. You must bee old fashioned. The computer or phones know these days to wrap lines. I grew up with a manual typewriter but the tech has changed you should know this. You need to use your brain once in a while and learn to read and quit being so lazy for instant gratification.

    • @ToadstoolFilms
      @ToadstoolFilms 17 днів тому

      @@benjaminbrown5245 It’s not about wrap around, it’s about breaking up the wall of text.

    • @benjaminbrown5245
      @benjaminbrown5245 17 днів тому

      @ learn to miss technology stupid or are you living back in the old days?

  • @LukeSchaeferFilms
    @LukeSchaeferFilms 2 місяці тому +4

    I love my $5,500 M2 Max MBP and my new $3,000 13in M4 IPad Bro 1TB 🙌🏼 Never owned an iPad before. I will be using both!

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +3

      @@LukeSchaeferFilms Is an iPad Bro one of those iPads that you only see on trading floors? 😉

  • @gallodelfierro7722
    @gallodelfierro7722 9 днів тому +1

    At work we use both in business use cases they both serve their purposes. I can’t really see myself using an ipad as a MacBook replacement though. I do plan on just trying out the ipad pro for a couple days just to findout what my specific limitations could be for business use. As for personal use i see the ipad as an extension of my iphone

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  8 днів тому

      @@gallodelfierro7722 That’s a good way of looking at it. iPads are a companion device either way (to a phone or computer).

  • @digitaldecibles
    @digitaldecibles 17 днів тому +1

    Watching this on my macbook with a monitor as a primary screen, while my ipad sits on my couch and been there for the last month without usage. YES, get a MACBOOK, there's no comparison .

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  17 днів тому

      @@digitaldecibles And the best thing is your iPad can be an awesome second screen for your MacBook in a couple of clicks.

  • @jrami223
    @jrami223 Місяць тому +1

    To me, I think tablets are more of an entertainment device like to watch movies, TV shows the bigger the better and with the better battery life to do like homework video editing I think you should go more towards the laptop even though the iPad is a powerful device

  • @Tammyspam
    @Tammyspam 2 місяці тому +1

    I like your way of thinking, gonna watch the ipad guide now🤔🤔
    The last time I got an iPAD was in 2018, and that ipad pro is still working fine, which is honestly a bit crazy considering an iPhone wouldn't last me 6 years

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      I had the 2018 iPad Pro too. That thing was a beast!

  • @brianthomas3249
    @brianthomas3249 Місяць тому +1

    Always buy a MacBook. The great thing about the IPad is you can use it alongside the MacBook as an extra monitor. So let’s stop comparing the two they work great together

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      Good point. I use the extended screen feature a lot at my desk.

  • @maxamgilbert
    @maxamgilbert 2 місяці тому +1

    I have both, that‘s it!

  • @harvo1798
    @harvo1798 10 днів тому +1

    You sold me on a 10thgen ipad, will be picking up a new MacBook as well

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  10 днів тому

      @@harvo1798 [considers approaching Apple for commission] Which one are you going for?

  • @arpsichord7474
    @arpsichord7474 2 місяці тому +2

    I'd say neither and get something that costs less and can do more.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      Interesting - what sort of thing were you thinking?

    • @arpsichord7474
      @arpsichord7474 2 місяці тому

      @@ThatMarkGilroy It's not an apple product that's for sure.

  • @Themanthatisi
    @Themanthatisi 23 дні тому +1

    If I had to only get one, it would be a Macbook, it can just do more. However, having both is ideal…..

  • @reincarnated.phoenix
    @reincarnated.phoenix 29 днів тому +1

    I use the I pad 5th gen air as a laptop substitute and the only haws I have found is definitely multiple apps open, it can only manage two well so doing research for anything is hard, but l love note taking and using procreate for college and ofc Microsoft and google apps are great on the iPad for productivity id recommend with a stylus and keyboard

  • @karanjangid3766
    @karanjangid3766 2 місяці тому +1

    So much clarity 🎉

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      Thanks Karan! Glad you enjoyed this one.

  • @abhishekkr4004
    @abhishekkr4004 2 місяці тому +1

    I am in love with this skin of ipad. Looks awesome even on mac

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      It's so nice. It's dbrand's collab with Ali Abdaal. I cover it in a bit more detail in my recent desk setup upgrades video.

  • @Ublad8304
    @Ublad8304 2 місяці тому +1

    Great content, thank you for sharing, where did you find your back protection for the iPad? I can't find it on Paperlike's website, Thanks

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      @@Ublad8304 the blue cover? It’s a skin from dbrand - called Sea Breeze.

  • @carbb5760
    @carbb5760 Місяць тому

    Really like this channel - keep up the good work!

  • @soumen8624
    @soumen8624 Місяць тому +1

    For middle class folks, buy MacBook first, save again, then couple of months or a year later buy an iPad Air or pro. You’ll be damm happy. I understand many people including myself can’t buy both on the first go.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому +1

      @@soumen8624 Great idea to stagger the purchases. If I wasn’t buying as a business expense I’d 100% be doing the same.

  • @Serenity-hy
    @Serenity-hy Місяць тому +2

    I’ll set the trap😅 my iPad Pro = MacBook, TV, Scanner 😜

  • @Redukteur
    @Redukteur 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! Where did you get the Macbook with blue wave design around the logo from the thumbnail? Is it a special edition by Apple?

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +1

      @@Redukteur It’s a skin by dBrand. I have the same one on my iPad too because I’m a massive nerd.

  • @Annette_Hons
    @Annette_Hons 2 місяці тому

    I love my iPad Pro 12.9" (2020) and my iPad mini 6th gen, but for the money the MacBook Air M3 is the way to go. iPads are more for consumption and simple stuff. Laptops are all in one whereas iPad you have to spend more money for keyboards, mouse, dongles to connect to other devices, external storage, pencils, etc. I feel like if Apple can have touch technology for iPads and the use of the pencil, why not bring that tech to the MacBook laptops? Not to mention, the work arounds needed to use word, excel, etc. I mean its easy enough to learn but you basically have to learn two ways to do one thing if you are using iPad and MacBooks.

  • @Hendika
    @Hendika 2 місяці тому +2

    ive got the M1 Macbook pro and an iPad mini, honestly the best combo i think, one is for work and productivity and one for media consumption, note taking, ebook reader. cant wait for the refresh on the mini lineup tbh, im not complaining about the current mini since i dont really notice the jelly scrolling or megabezels but yeah, its due for an update

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I never had an issue with jelly scroll either. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @charlottestacy6134
    @charlottestacy6134 2 місяці тому +1

    As a professional artist who travels a lot having a celular iPad is so much better than a laptop which I have learned from experience. unless you’re a graphic designer or a professional artist of some kind just get the MacBook or iPad Air lol

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      I bet it is! Does it matter to have the larger screen vs the smaller one?

    • @charlottestacy6134
      @charlottestacy6134 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroy the smaller one is the one I got. It’s plenty big enough and it fits in my purse and i can hold it comfortably with one hand since the m4 is so light. I think the 13 would be just a little too big to be convenient and portable. The iPad also has access to PadOS only apps like ToonSquid and procreate which makes it cheaper to use since I don’t have to pay for a subscription for adobe. The pencil is also super good. With a Mac id have to get a Wacom and carry a bunch of wires around everywhere and shell out more money for toonboom or adobe suite. My needs are very neiche tho I’ll admit. I already have a gaming laptop for heavier tasks anyway.

  • @christophernewhouse5832
    @christophernewhouse5832 6 днів тому +1

    I ended up getting the 2024 macbook the $1,600 1 i wish it had double the RAM & came with a dongle 4 USB & HDMI basically like when apple gave cheap earbuds with every iphone that way i don't have 2 spend an extra $30-$80 this laptop should last me a good 5 years so i'm satisfied regardless

  • @sharikmarius
    @sharikmarius Місяць тому +1

    My take is, an iPad is the better device for content consumption, note taking, and digital art that relies on freehand drawing. Beyond that I'm using a MacBook.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      @@sharikmarius sounds like my take too 👍🏻

  • @Montreal98
    @Montreal98 5 днів тому +1

    Wow very informative video
    Thank you so much 🌷

  • @codexous
    @codexous 2 місяці тому +2

    Could you direct me to where I can find one of those apple pencil grips? They look great

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      @@codexous Hello mate. The screen protector, pencil grip AND pencil tips are all from Paperlike. paperlike.com/thatmarkgilroy (they work out cheaper if you buy them in a bundle).

    • @codexous
      @codexous 2 місяці тому

      @@ThatMarkGilroy thank you so much!

  • @larrylynch8113
    @larrylynch8113 24 дні тому +1

    Point is ; if you want top specs and gadgets ; it s 7k for MacBook Pro and a round 2,5 k on an iPad

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  24 дні тому +1

      That’s fair. But you could also get a monster MacBook for 2.5K in refurbished.

    • @larrylynch8113
      @larrylynch8113 23 дні тому +1

      @ thks for your reply and time ; I am a music producer and I reeeally like the way it’s possible to record on the go now with Logic Pro for iPad and a simple usb c audio interface

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  23 дні тому +1

      Logic Pro for iPad is pretty solid. Unlike - cough - Final Cut on iPad.

  • @amit00333
    @amit00333 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the explaination. Really helped me a lot on making a decision. I will be purchasing MacBook pro.

  • @luanmoin3368
    @luanmoin3368 2 місяці тому +2

    7:41 what is that on the outside that made your ipad and macbook look so nice? Is it like a case or something? Where can i get it

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому

      @@luanmoin3368 It’s a skin from dbrand. They have loads to choose from but this one is called Sea Breeze.

  • @wazitSomethingISaid
    @wazitSomethingISaid 2 місяці тому +1

    just get both

  • @devampandya634
    @devampandya634 14 днів тому +2

    Sir mac mini m4 is launched and i own ipad air m2 😅😅 can i buy mac mini m4 in exchange of ipad 🤧?

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  14 днів тому

      If you already have a keyboard/mouse/monitor (or you’re happy to buy them as well), you’ll have a great time with the new Mac Mini. That thing is incredible!

  • @jUjURama28
    @jUjURama28 4 дні тому

    I like your detailed review between these two❤ I think I need to switch my macbook pro 2021 to an ipad😢

  • @hello50881
    @hello50881 Місяць тому +2

    People compare them because people will mostly buy one

  • @Episkopi2008
    @Episkopi2008 Місяць тому +3

    Sold my iPad 13 Inch M4 after having it from launch. With the keyboard, it set me back £1600 and all I do is really consume content. Tried to work exclusively from it for 1 week, but found myself doing too many workarounds. Awesome design, beautiful crafted but not for everyone the same way a MacBook is. Shame - I wish Apple would eat humble pie and know that Microsoft has the right design philosophy in the latest Surface Pro.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  Місяць тому

      That's it - workarounds galore if you're using it as a single work machine.

  • @MrAbhinavgour
    @MrAbhinavgour 18 днів тому +3

    I bought both so that I don’t have to watch these videos

  • @pirohz5542
    @pirohz5542 2 місяці тому +1

    iPad Pro + Mac mini + Vision Pro = no need of a Macbook anymore and more complete experience (and still transportable).
    And if the price of vision Pro is an issue, some efficient solution exist to use iPad as a monitor for the mac mini, and would still make it a better combo.

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  2 місяці тому +1

      That's a really interesting loadout. Would never have thought of combining the Mac Mini with Vision Pro for a portable setup!

    • @pirohz5542
      @pirohz5542 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ThatMarkGilroy so you still have macOS, not just VisionOS

  • @longhairmullet
    @longhairmullet 4 дні тому +1

    What I’m dreaming about is just being able to use whatever iPad I buy for next 5years. Hope the chip will be updateable and battery last. I’m prob good with 10th Gen iPad but it’s an old chip? Seems should at least get into one of the M chips? M2 or A16ya or not necessary ? I like iPad because I prefer touch screen to poke around on

    • @ThatMarkGilroy
      @ThatMarkGilroy  4 дні тому

      I would absolutely agree - anything that's not M-silicone or A17/A18 at this stage will be redundant in a couple of years.

  • @brhoom2013
    @brhoom2013 Місяць тому +1

    If you use pen all the time go with iPad if not go with king of course Mac