Battletech's Enforcer, the Trooper to End All Troopers

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    An Enforcer is what happens when you need to mass-produce a 'mech to be able to do everything well-enough, cheap enough and fast enough. Not to say it's bad, it's actually fantastic in that ONE SPECIFIC NICHE: being a basic trooper which does basic trooper things, like an American GI of old.
    The Enforcer also is the Enfield, and the Enforcer III, and the militia support mech series. It's many things at once nowadays.
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  • @SpiritWolf1966
    @SpiritWolf1966 Місяць тому +5

    I enjoy all of Professor HeyTeeEn videos

  • @spartana1116
    @spartana1116 Місяць тому +8

    Ah yes the centurion's overlooked brother

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +3

      The jump jets on the Enforcer makes me enjoy it a bit more in campaigns.

    • @spartana1116
      @spartana1116 Місяць тому +1

      Eh if you ask me jumpjets are dead weights for more armor, Better weapons or heat sinks
      Than again I often take destructive contracts then guardians tiny crowded settlement defense jobs ..

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      @@spartana1116 Also seems like you haven't had to deal with mines and vibrabombs very often.

    • @spartana1116
      @spartana1116 Місяць тому

      Vibra-what

    • @Heatx79
      @Heatx79 Місяць тому

      mmmm Centurion Enforcer Trebuchet… Hunchback standard me as any Davion combat lance. I just love the iconic team

  • @baker90338
    @baker90338 Місяць тому +4

    Now, something important to put into historical context, is the fact of how long the enforcer was in production. The enforcer 4r had seen no tweaks in service from 2777 to late 3050, when it was retooled for the 5D, which simply just upgraded the weaponry and engine, and added case. That’s 273 years of constant usage by house Davion, so something went right.
    (Though I am somewhat skeptical of the claim that the enforcer 4R never saw modifications. I have gone to the Achernar factory archives, and reading some communications between one of the first princes and the company in the late 30th about a “centurionized enforcer” in response to decreasing numbers of the chassis.)

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      273 years with minimal modifications is already rather fantastic.

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn this is on a design that gives you a pocket heavy in terms of armaments. additionally, the sheer number of the 40 ton variants is impressive, with my personal favorite being the sentry, considering what you get with it's weight.

  • @christopherpurches2774
    @christopherpurches2774 Місяць тому +1

    Phi had a... bondswoman... who had one of these. I believe it was originally a 4R. The Bondmaster was a star commander who lost a point commander to a headshot from the autocannon. He requested it be refit slightly to our standards and she be given the right to pilot under his command. Took the risk, and she did quite well. We replaced the Autocannon with an LB-X version and extra ammunition. Replaced the lasers with our extended range versions, and gave it a heat-sink kit swap.
    She earned her freedom after shooting down a flight of DCMS Aerospace Fighters that had been sent to kill her commander. She went back home after a second tour of duty.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +1

      Really, a Clan LBX and ER PPC, combined with a DHS kit makes this little trooper a big boy trooper.

    • @christopherpurches2774
      @christopherpurches2774 Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn to get the space you either need to take less ammo, change the armor type, or do an engine swap. I've seen the 5R running around recently. That one would probably be the box to make that change with.

  • @spencerjones841
    @spencerjones841 Місяць тому +2

    The 5D really needs DHS to use that ER large Laser effectively and with the saved mass is using 10 DHS...Maybe add 2 medium lasers?

  • @jamesbeard5513
    @jamesbeard5513 Місяць тому +5

    The 7D was an attempt to protect Enforcer pilots. Apparently, Capellans, Kuritans, and even Taurians had gotten very good at 'going for the head' of Enforcers (they had a much higher casulty rate than any other mech during the Victoria War). I am surprised you didn't mention it had a hand actuator in the left arm, and I would have thought having the 5th jump jet in the right torso would have made its jumps lopsided.
    The Enforcer is simple and direct. Easy for beginners to learn on and still powerful enough for vets and commanders to appreciate. I am actually surprised there wasn't a RAC version in its history.

    • @teehasheestower
      @teehasheestower Місяць тому +1

      Jump Jets don't all have to be "pusher jets" all the time. Especially when the pilot does not go for the full jump each time, more jets can go towards stabilizing the mech or not be used to even them out. Though you're right, pushing the full range out of an uneven distribution of Jump Jets can make for a few shaky landings.

  • @thorshammer8033
    @thorshammer8033 Місяць тому +1

    Any designer that puts an ER Large Laser on a mech and keeps the single heat sinks is a peanut of the highest magnitude.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      I do agree with that. The thing is, by 3050, Double Heat Sinks were still not THAT common that not everything would have them.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda Місяць тому +7

    Not my favorite medium trooper, but definitely a solid choice. It gets better once you can slap an LB 10-X on it and get 2 tons of ammo.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +1

      I see it as the definitive trooper because all other troopers have to measure up to it.

    • @Taurevanime
      @Taurevanime Місяць тому +1

      I find it such a shame that so many variants and especially FedSun mech designs in general forego the LB 10-X in favour of the RAC/5.

    • @WolfHreda
      @WolfHreda Місяць тому +4

      @@Taurevanime whoa whoa whoa, there. You're sounding an awful lot like a Capellan, friend. How dare you besmirch the glorious name of RAC/5, the greatest AC/5 ever made? 🤣

    • @Taurevanime
      @Taurevanime Місяць тому

      @@WolfHreda As a FedRat I love the RAC/5, but its more a complaint that FASA and CGL especially have the "new toy" problem when it comes to making new variants. So plasma rifles for Liao, RAC/5s and re-engineered lasers for the FedSuns, Snub-nose PPCs for Kurita, etc.

  • @rifleman2c997
    @rifleman2c997 Місяць тому +1

    I love the enforcer. And in our campaign I ran a similar upgrade with clan salvage, despite trudging along at 4/6/4. But it was neat to just do enforcer things at longer ranges.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      Clan LBX and ER Large, clan Ferro, saved weight going to heat sink or other survival equipment...

  • @brothersgt.grauwolff6716
    @brothersgt.grauwolff6716 23 дні тому +1

    ah the Enforcer it's always had a place in my Davion Battle Lance

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  23 дні тому

      It is a surprisingly good medium trooper, which I would use in a long of situations.

  • @matthewneuendorf5763
    @matthewneuendorf5763 Місяць тому +2

    Probably my favorite trooper design.
    In HBS BT I like to run it in the early game, adjusting the weapons slightly (AC10 down to a 5, LL up to a PPC) and bumping the armor significantly. Of course, HBS BT has wildly different construction rules, so that might not be viable outside of the tactical simulators.

    • @ChaosTicket
      @ChaosTicket Місяць тому +1

      That game is its own kind of broken. Ballistic weapons were buffed from small amounts(Ac-10 +20% damage), to big buffs(AC-5 +90% damage) to broken (AC-2 +150% damage).
      Energy weapons on the other hand got large nerfs. Lasers didnt cause any kind of stability damage, and most Lasers had their heat generated raised. The PPCs are the only ones that did stability damage, and got their heat raised too.
      I remember I didnt even use an Enforcer because oddly Blackjacks were so amazing, and you started the campaign with a Blackjack for free. They carried 2 overpowered AC-2s(heh), with 4 Medium Lasers as backup, and Jump Jets.
      A Centurion would be way better too because you could make one with a lot of missiles. Some of those upgraded missile launchers would do amazing levels of Stability Damage.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      HBS is a strange version of the game. It's not the worst, but a lot of balance issues in it.

  • @Gillymonster18
    @Gillymonster18 Місяць тому +1

    The Enforcer is so midline …it’d almost be considered an insult if it were any other mech…except the Enforcer is so damn solid you know exactly what it can and can’t do once you know how it’s armored and what it’s armored with.
    It can reliably flatten most lights, effectively tangle with other mediums and slow down heavier mechs and survive long enough for reinforcements to get there.
    And that’s it.

  • @MilitaryStyx
    @MilitaryStyx Місяць тому

    I rock the 5D quite often in my merc command lance. It tends to get ignored, but I have never lost a match with it on the field

  • @1975Paladin1
    @1975Paladin1 Місяць тому +1

    If you want to know what a "modernized" Swordsman would look like, look at the Davion Shadow Hawk, the SHD-2D and SHD-2D2. That's Davion's idea of a "Trooper" design for their lighter and faster forces, with the Centurion and Enforcer being the Trooper designs for their heavier, slower forces.
    One thing I noticed in all of these designs is that they're all known for being reliable machines. Not really anything that stands out in the firepower or armor department, but it's reliable. Think of them as the Sherman tank of the Battlemech world.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +1

      Not saying I got my hands on a Swordsman built in the 3150s, but after my boys brought it back I took it for a ride before handing it to R&D...

    • @1975Paladin1
      @1975Paladin1 Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn There any truth to the rumor that the new Swordsman has a Sparrow 300J life support system like the Shadow Hawks have?

  • @teehasheestower
    @teehasheestower Місяць тому +2

    We have a Spy that uses the Enforcer. He fails to capture the intelligence every time. Just wants to shoot his gun and not be stealthy.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +1

      If there is nobody left to report that something is there, it is stealthy :P

  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 Місяць тому +1

    Would you believe the Davions actually objected to having the AC10 replaced by a gauss rifle? Yeah, they *complained* about losing their autocannon when offered a *gauss rifle!*

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +1

      Autocannons are reliable and trustworthy, especially in that 3039-3045 era.

    • @derekburge5294
      @derekburge5294 Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of my cockpit suffering internal structure rather than being sheared clean off!

  • @v13r3r
    @v13r3r Місяць тому +4

    To me, the Enforcer makes me meh really hard. Whether tabletop or video game, it sits between not enough damage to kill but too much to ignore and not enough to survive but takes too much to kill. It's an annoying mech to fight or pilot so I guess it's doing it's job.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому +1

      Here is the thing:
      It's a good mech precisely for the reasons you stated.

  • @Reverb154
    @Reverb154 Місяць тому +2

    This is where the Light PPC would be better then the Large Laser...

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      Large Laser has the advantage of not having a minimum range.

    • @Reverb154
      @Reverb154 Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Large Laser generates a LOT of heat, and the ER version is worse! The Light PPC only has 5 heat for 5 damage, plus you can add a medium laser to the Mech's torso for when the Enforcer's are get shot off. Watching Monty Python's Black Knight gag is funny, BEING the Black Knight in the gag ISN'T!

  • @mattikuokkanen
    @mattikuokkanen Місяць тому +1

    Watchman is more like slower Phoenix Hawk.

  • @Stormeris
    @Stormeris Місяць тому +1

    I enjoy the Enfield quite a lot, even made a stl model for it.
    Enforcer itself is a bit too "generic robot man with gun arms" for my tastes.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      The thing is, I think the Enforcer embodies the "generic robot man with gun arms" very well.

    • @Stormeris
      @Stormeris Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Too well in my opinion

  • @NegTharayas16
    @NegTharayas16 Місяць тому +2

    Professor, it would be great to see you do a comparison between the Enforcer and the Centurion. If the Fedsuns had one, why the other? It takes a lot to develop a chassis, seems like they could have just made a Centurion variant...

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      Centurion is a whole other idea, meant to serve as a support to the Trebuchet. I have to research it a bit more.

  • @ChaosTicket
    @ChaosTicket Місяць тому +1

    After talking about it I came to know the Enforcer has too many flaws for me to like.
    Make it faster, replace the Autocannon with a long range missile launcher, and give it plenty of ammo.
    My favorite medium mech of 3025 is the Griffin.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      The 275 Mafia Trio are all great in different way, but the Enforcer's base role as a trooper makes it a good complement to them as well.

    • @ChaosTicket
      @ChaosTicket Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Every other "Trooper" mech Ive heard of is defined as having Short-Medium-Long weapons in roughly equal measure. Vindicator, Centurion, Shadow Hawk, Thunderbolt, Orion, Zeus, Stalker, those are troopers.
      The alternate way its said is just "medium Mechs" in general. According to the profiles the Enforcer, Centurion, and Trebuchet are the three main general mechs of the Federated Suns.
      The Enforcer stands out because it has no long range firepower at all. Its more defined as a mid-range Cavalry(jump jet) mech.

  • @rafale1981
    @rafale1981 Місяць тому +1

    Tbf, the swordsman at 40 tons is almost as heavily armed as an shd, so it´s a smidgen better than it in that respect

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      It's the lack of mobility which impairs the Swordsman the most.

  • @Cytl-bu3nq
    @Cytl-bu3nq Місяць тому +2

    "Sociopathic individual", that's easy, anyone with the last name of Davion. I think the Enforcer would be better if it had a missile weapon mounted in the left torso instead of an energy weapon.

    • @ProfessorHeyTeeEn
      @ProfessorHeyTeeEn  Місяць тому

      Centurion is a great trooper as well.

    • @Cytl-bu3nq
      @Cytl-bu3nq Місяць тому

      @@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Most definitely, tbh I like Trooper type mechs.