He is a victim as well of Jody in this. But I do think that he is as responsible as Ruby for the bad parenting before Jody came along. I also hope he doesn't get custody
It's almost as if they acquired their children for status kinda like you would a house or a car. I never saw deep abiding love for any of their furniture, oops, I mean kids.
@@teresathayn5170Unfortunately that’s common in the Mormon faith, especially in Utah. They have huge families for reasons that don’t seem obvious to anyone on the outside looking in…
@@darlingdeb7010he should have been a leader of the house and he failed that. He should have stood up for himself instead of letting these women tell him what to do
Jesse your posts are becoming more advertising products than content! Every time I see a video I now think what’s he advertising now? Cmon every single post?
It sounds like Kevin Franke is blaming Jodi Hildebrand for everything. Ruby was abusing those kids long before Jodi came in the picture. I used to follow 8 passengers until I noticed how horrible both parents were. The Dad wasn't any better, as he didn't protect his children.
He’s a coward of the highest order but he didn’t do anything criminal. Laws do need to be fixed to cover people like him but they never will because they’re afraid abused women will get caught up in the web.
He is, that has been his angle since the second interrogation. He immediately said Jodi had brainwashed Ruby like there was no sort of abuse or neglect happening before Jodi ever met the family. She routinely let the kids go hungry, it was so bad that they had very strict calorie counts that were different depending on the day, like Monday and Wednesday it was x amount, Tuesday and Thursday y amount, Friday z amount and Saturday and Sunday a amount. It was Fecking nuts
He physically and emotionally abandoned his children for a year and now wants to influence legislation related to the mental health and wellbeing of families? This man is a joker.
@@DamageControlLLCmaybe, but didn’t he also try to get one of his older daughters in trouble for going back to the house to get the younger kids belongings after they were taken by cps? unless that was misinfo
@@kevinhornbuckleYou obviously didn't see the videos where he clearly shows he was fine with that. He laughed at our concerns. He is not much different. He is a risk for his children and he is lying. He still gives me creepy vibes.
@@kevinhornbuckle you don’t know that unless you have 1st hand knowledge, not too many fathers would agree to not seeing their children when they’re paying the bills. I do agree that Hildebrand ruined many fathers lives with her false accusations.
Kevin Franke criticizing Utah law WHEN HE CHOSE NOT TO SEE HIS OWN CHILDREN AND DID NOT HELP THEM WHILE THEY WERE BEING ABUSED. I can’t stand when people don’t take accountability for their actions and/or put it on others to raise their children.
Ruby and Kevin are two of the most selfish parents I've ever seen! I've never seen either experience the slightest inconvenience for any of their kids! 😡
He was there when they both sent Chad to one of those abusive wilderness camps. He knew how Ruby was, maybe not the magnitude at that point but he wasn’t fully blindsighted
@@ang_roHe definitely did fail big-time cause he was more hypnotized by Ruby looks then he was about protecting his kids so that makes him extremely shallow but this definitely doesn't surprise me cause lots of relationships completely are fake
Big talk for a guy who was content to let an abuser take over care of his kids for a year while he was just a paycheck. He allowed it to happen, I don't care what he has to say now.
Chad was underweight! Remember he actually gained 10 lbs while struggling thru the wilderness?!? Kevin had to notice Ruby wasn't cooking!! Those precious kids were ALWAYS hungry! That angers me! 😡
@@teresathayn5170Chad is the only wilderness camp survivor that I’ve seen saying was better in the camp. That says a lot of how was that house behind the cameras. In front of the cameras was already bad, but behind, horrible and he was an active participant.
He's part of the problem for heaven's sake! The abuse started in his home with cameras running and he condoned it. It got worse after he left but knowing what she was like when they were together he KNEW what she was capable of!
Thank you for referring to them as "tactics" instead of "methods", that is the perfect way to describe leveraging basic essentials against your children.
@@EmperorOfMan even when the other parent is torturing them? He could have intervened if he was a real man. He totally disregarded his parental duties.
He was living in that house when a lot of the abuse was taking place. He not only condoned it, he actively participated in it. And then to abandon his kids for a year because his wife and her "friend" told him to? A quick trip or two to a family law attorney would have fixed that. He just didn't want to. This creep should be in prison, too.
I had a friend who had a "life coach" told him to seperate from his family too and he believed everything she advised. He then wanted to be like her and become a life coach too. Idk.. some people are just very manipulative and controlling.
A we ever going to talk about how much the LDS Church specifically Steven Bangerter was involved in this? Other victims have come forward saying he is the underlying connection.
Thank Goodness for the kind hearted neighbor, Geesh what a shame he sounded so traumatized otp hope he is healing & know he is a hero in this disgusting case!!
Yes, it still tears me up thinking about that couple coming to the realization of what happened and how concerned they were for him. That was probably the first time he felt kindness in years.
@@stephendriscoll7549 Sadly, not a thought. It was reality. According to the interview Ruby’s husband gave to Utah police after their arrest - After Jody moved into their family home Ruby began sleeping upstairs with Jody while telling her husband he was now under “an in home separation”.
He failed those kids a million times worse than law-makers, child protective services, or teachers ever did! Shame on him for pointing blame or trying to criticize others, when all he had to do was step up as a parent and those kids would have been spared all that abuse.
I was physically and emotionally abused growing up. I would take the physical abuse any day over the emotional abuse. I am almost 40 now and I still struggle with the emotional abuse that I was subjected to. That is something I will never get over. Emotional abuse to children needs to be taken more seriously. Those scars never leave and are worse than physical abuse.
And one of the things we need to do help kids is not allow the Mormon Church (or any other organization entrusted with the care and protection of children) to sweep it under the rug.
@@raincadeifyI agree. The way they recommend their own counselors (who may not be certified) to members who are struggling just seems so conflicting, and brainwashing, to me.
Dude, you abandoned your children for a YEAR. Made zero effort to obtain custody or even court-ordered visitation after you knew Jodi was crazy, "brainwashing" your wife, ran a cult, and kicked you AND your 17-year-old son out of the house. Like???
I feel like the Mormon faith leaves people in a state of gullibility. Once you've been taught to believe in stuff like magic underwear, some of the things that seem unbelievable to us are less so to members of the LDS church.
Self-serving! All of a sudden, he is concerned. He should have been concerned when they were abusing his youngest son and daughter. His son looked like he was dying slowly from the abuse. And Ole Kevin was living his life free of children. He was only concerned with his wife. The woman that is abusing his children.
Thank you to the neighbours who called the cops. I heard that he has since passed from cancer. What a lovely last gesture he gave to this world, to help save children from their abusers. Makes me tear up hearing his emotions during the call. Rest in peace sir and thank you for helping to save these kids
He did not care about his children when the first thing he does is threaten to throw one of his kids in jail for stealing his "things". He was never worried about those kids in the slightest.
This pathetic father was a co-abuser with his wife and he abandoned his children long before they were rescued. That he now portrays himself as a victim-turned-advocate is disgusting.
The similarities between these folks and the Lori + Chad weirdos is really bizarre. Neither should have been around children including this father, who I think should be held accountable as well.
@@EmperorOfMan You clearly don't know how the family law system works, lol. Dads have NO rights, none. Kids are the property of the mother and whomever she is with. The needs of kids play zero role, it is a mother-centered system.
Never forget he let his 6 year old daughter go a full day of school w/o food. He also let his son sleep on a bean bag for 7 months. He's just as guilty as she is
I'm a little confused as how he didn't know what was going on ? I find it hard to believe he had no clue of the abuse. None of his kids said anything to him or he wasn't the least bit concerned about anything?
whether or not he knew, it does seem like the kids didn’t talk to him so they wouldn’t have told him, but the evidence of how he “parented” before he was out of the house is evidence enough for me to think he deserves some guilt
It was physical abuse as well. Being made to jump into a cactus with bare feet and to stand in the hot sun for hours with no food and water….being starved is physical abuse. Russel was tied down and his sores weren’t treated correctly. The list goes on and on. Bottom line is that it was more than just emotional abuse
You’re right. In order to use emotional abuse, you have to have a mental health professional say that what the child went through was so emotionally bad that the child has significant life altering impact on them. That’s so hard to prove in a court of law. These kids had tons of physical abuse going on so they had plenty to remove the kids. Btw I work in child welfare so yes those kids should have been removed. If they didn’t answer the door then get an order to investigate.
@@jenscheibner792 well they could have but they also didn’t answer the door for the police. That’s why an order from the judge to investigate would have given them the leverage to forcibly enter the home by the cops. Cops or judges are the ones to sign the hold on the children not cps. If you can’t get the cops or a judge to do it then the kids stay where they are.
She hit the nail on the head- people are so desensitized now. The welfare workers, doctors, teachers, everyone has burn out from so many calls, claims, and whats going on in society. Plus if they refuse to answer their door.. that is something too. Its a hard situation.
Kevin is equally guilty. He left and never saw or visited his children again. Poor parenting skills. He should have seen an attorney and sued Ruby for visitation rights. I have no time for him.
Why isn’t he sharing a cell with her? He is just as guilty as those two women. And trying to act innocent is nothing but insulting especially to his children he failed.
Let's tell it like it is. The church validated and recommended Jodi. People are taught to not question church leaders. No one wants to touch on this subject.
The Mormons essentially run Utah, since its founding. They are also very rich thanks to their tithing system. Very hard to go up against the people that run everything. I feel very bad for the normal people trying to live their lives there.
But Ruby and Cuckin...er I mean Kevin were abusing the kids before Jody even came into the picture. Seems like the Frankes accepted Jodi because she reinforced their abuse.
The audacity of this guy after being complicit in the abuse of his kids for years on 8 Passengers, and then abandoning them for a year because his wife told him to. Such a victim, his lack of accountability and integrity is mind-boggling.
I understand that Jodis ways were wrong from the beginning. But for people to blame her totally is way off. Ruby was abusing her kids mentally an keeping them hungry way b4 Jodi came along. An to even hear ruby say at sentencing that she just got involved with the wrong person was zero accountability. She is as much to blame maybe more than Jodi. I pray they never see her kids or any kids ever again..
Where was dad when his kids needed him? Did he file for a court appearance? Did he request police assistance? You divorce your spouse not your kids so what was he doing to be in their lives?
And he still hasn't divorced her after everything she did to the kids because he doesn't care about the kids. He keeps referring to Ruby as his wife, not ex, and is trying to place all the blame on Jody and off Ruby.
"We never told our viewers that" yeah Ruby...I bet you didn't and the only thing that woman regrets is probably not chaining her kids up so they could get out.
Ruby needs to be in jail until ALL of her children are adults. Anything short of that would be an insult to justice and a damger to her children if she got out. She's "lost her privileges" to be a mom.
For the life of me I'll never understand this man! Also, what's going on with Mormons? We have these fools and then we have Chad and Lori! I'm not judging just wondering. This is a tragedy all around.
Your comment makes no sense. Are you saying LDS people have higher rates of child abuse? There is no evidence of that, most child abuse occurs in divorced/single mother homes, not intact Mormon homes.
I'm seeing and reading a couple more loony tunes here. There's a lot more of this going on in the Mormon religion from the top down. Protecting the abusers at all costs. Kids brainwashed and conditioned not to come forward. It took one young boy to expose this by ESCAPING A TORTURE HOUSE and go to a neighbors house that he never even knew for help. His sister hid in a closet and wouldn't come out or even say anything to police. Facts hurt eh??
It is alarming how normalised child abuse is within many different families 😢 Hearing from people who have left these religious groups and speaking out about the abuse they suffered, it's horrifying what they went through.
I remember he said Ruby told him not to contact or see their children after they'd split up. And he DID. Then blamed her for everything, WTAF - imagine how hurt and abandoned his children felt - especially the young ones. He facilitated her behaviour and believes he has no responsibility. Wrong. He deserves charges too. POS. How dare he speak out now as though he's innocent. He's accountable too because lots of ab*se happened when he was with her. Horrible man. Not a dad - everything's for publicity and money.
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Don't give this guy any credit. He should be charged also for abusing and abandoning his children.
Yes exactly
He is such a Hypocrite, he is just a much to blame, the proof is in their video’s, he is such a wimp of a man 🤬
He is a victim as well of Jody in this. But I do think that he is as responsible as Ruby for the bad parenting before Jody came along. I also hope he doesn't get custody
And his students. The reviews about professor Kevin online were just as disturbing
He’s guilty of being a beta. That’s it
Gimme a break he's as complicit as she was.
It's almost as if they acquired their children for status kinda like you would a house or a car. I never saw deep abiding love for any of their furniture, oops, I mean kids.
@@teresathayn5170Unfortunately that’s common in the Mormon faith, especially in Utah. They have huge families for reasons that don’t seem obvious to anyone on the outside looking in…
lol she wasn’t complicit she was the aggressor, as was he. They both dished out emotional and physical abuse to the kids.
It’s amazing how he abandoned his children to her and still doesn’t take responsibility nor face questions.
He was emotionally abused for years. Have you ever lived under emotional abuse?
Imo he's either c i a or was in on it and played dum b
@@darlingdeb7010he should have been a leader of the house and he failed that. He should have stood up for himself instead of letting these women tell him what to do
@@darlingdeb7010 FOH. He abandoned his kids for over a year. No excuses
Sounds great, but it takes money and strength to fight for your kids in a divorce and everything is super STACKED against the father.
How is he not being held accountable for ANYTHING??!!
*WHY is he not being held accountable for ANYTHING? Not how.
Because he's a male Letter Day Saint in Utah.
How and Why dang it?!?
Beats Me!
WELCOME TO UTAH WHERE MEN ARE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE
He and his wife actively avoided DCFS and now they're blaming DCFS for it.
Jesse your posts are becoming more advertising products than content! Every time I see a video I now think what’s he advertising now? Cmon every single post?
I can't believe Jesse Weber is sitting there saying he was innocent. this channel sucks and so does his opinion.
wtf is a dcfs?
@@LanceHayabusaA child trafficking ring mostly.
@@LanceHayabusa😁
It sounds like Kevin Franke is blaming Jodi Hildebrand for everything. Ruby was abusing those kids long before Jodi came in the picture. I used to follow 8 passengers until I noticed how horrible both parents were. The Dad wasn't any better, as he didn't protect his children.
THAT PART. They were a monster in their own separate in time from Jodi Hildebrand, a third pos was thrown in that hellpot.
Ruby was so cruel to her own children I now believe she's a psychopath! Ruby has zero empathy and she's parasitic, typical psychopath!
@@teresathayn5170Ruby is definitely a sadist and I hope that she spends the next thirty years in prison.
He’s a coward of the highest order but he didn’t do anything criminal. Laws do need to be fixed to cover people like him but they never will because they’re afraid abused women will get caught up in the web.
He is, that has been his angle since the second interrogation. He immediately said Jodi had brainwashed Ruby like there was no sort of abuse or neglect happening before Jodi ever met the family. She routinely let the kids go hungry, it was so bad that they had very strict calorie counts that were different depending on the day, like Monday and Wednesday it was x amount, Tuesday and Thursday y amount, Friday z amount and Saturday and Sunday a amount. It was Fecking nuts
He physically and emotionally abandoned his children for a year and now wants to influence legislation related to the mental health and wellbeing of families? This man is a joker.
Well said and so true. Pathetic excuse for a father.
Thanks, saved me from the horror of listening to his crap, he’s still seeking attention, I’m shuddering.
He was kicked out by the matriarchy.
@@DamageControlLLCmaybe, but didn’t he also try to get one of his older daughters in trouble for going back to the house to get the younger kids belongings after they were taken by cps? unless that was misinfo
He was emotionally abused for years.
He’s a fraud and should have been charged with abandonment and child abuse
You are flatly wrong. He was lured under false pretenses into sham “treatment.”
@@kevinhornbuckleKevin Franke was complicit in the abuse his ex wife handed to their children on their UA-cam channel. He is an enabler.
Calm down chickens…..you can’t control a cult☠️👽
@@kevinhornbuckleYou obviously didn't see the videos where he clearly shows he was fine with that. He laughed at our concerns. He is not much different. He is a risk for his children and he is lying.
He still gives me creepy vibes.
@@kevinhornbuckle you don’t know that unless you have 1st hand knowledge, not too many fathers would agree to not seeing their children when they’re paying the bills. I do agree that Hildebrand ruined many fathers lives with her false accusations.
Kevin Franke criticizing Utah law WHEN HE CHOSE NOT TO SEE HIS OWN CHILDREN AND DID NOT HELP THEM WHILE THEY WERE BEING ABUSED. I can’t stand when people don’t take accountability for their actions and/or put it on others to raise their children.
Exactly
He could have just walked into his house and see his children...
Ruby and Kevin remind me of Sarah Boone!! Zero accountability!
@@teresathayn5170and playing victim
When HE also was guilty of ignoring DCFS even though he was schooled by the University how to respond to LE regarding CA.
He was a mandated reporter.
The audacity of this man. He literally abandoned his children. Now he is trying to be the face of a movement.
Its unbelievable!!! The entitlement!!
Kevin was complicit long before he was separated from his family.
Exactly
Those kids were just decoration!! And Ruby actually enjoyed being cruel to them! You Have To Feed Children!!!
He should be locked up with his wife there's no way he didn't know what was going on.
That’s exactly what I am thinking 🤔…
Ruby and Kevin are two of the most selfish parents I've ever seen! I've never seen either experience the slightest inconvenience for any of their kids! 😡
He was there when they both sent Chad to one of those abusive wilderness camps. He knew how Ruby was, maybe not the magnitude at that point but he wasn’t fully blindsighted
and if he didn’t know, he is even more culpable! He essentially abandoned his children because he was blinded by Ruby and Jodi. Just as guilty!
He should be charged as well, he was complicit!
Exactly
He is just as bad as her they have both been mistreating their children for years all for money, now he is trying to save his backside.
HE failed his children!!
That's right!!!
@@ang_roHe definitely did fail big-time cause he was more hypnotized by Ruby looks then he was about protecting his kids so that makes him extremely shallow but this definitely doesn't surprise me cause lots of relationships completely are fake
They were just a hobby to Kevin and Ruby who quickly grew tired and annoyed with them after the money stopped!!
He thinks he was a victim just like his kids. It's revolting.
Big talk for a guy who was content to let an abuser take over care of his kids for a year while he was just a paycheck. He allowed it to happen, I don't care what he has to say now.
I’m hoping you mean you could NOT care less
100% agree deflecting blame
Exactly, well said‼️
His negligence when he abandoned his kids contributed to his kids' abuse. He should be in prison too.
And, don't forget, he was right there abusing the kids with Ruby before she left him for Jodi.
Chad was underweight! Remember he actually gained 10 lbs while struggling thru the wilderness?!? Kevin had to notice Ruby wasn't cooking!! Those precious kids were ALWAYS hungry! That angers me! 😡
@@teresathayn5170Chad is the only wilderness camp survivor that I’ve seen saying was better in the camp. That says a lot of how was that house behind the cameras. In front of the cameras was already bad, but behind, horrible and he was an active participant.
He's part of the problem for heaven's sake! The abuse started in his home with cameras running and he condoned it. It got worse after he left but knowing what she was like when they were together he KNEW what she was capable of!
He is a joke
Thank you for referring to them as "tactics" instead of "methods", that is the perfect way to describe leveraging basic essentials against your children.
He needs to be charged with abandonment.
Why? When he was asked to leave? When the courts would more than likely support the woman?
@@pasphilc7994 not buying any of that crap. He is a sorry excuse for a man. Do you think a real man would fall for their line of crap. NO
Agree emotionally but legally it is not abandonment when you leave the kids with the other parent.
@@pasphilc7994 Boo hoo. He is a grown man and never even tried. Stop being weak and grow a pair. Worst generation of coddled babies I have even seen
@@EmperorOfMan even when the other parent is torturing them? He could have intervened if he was a real man. He totally disregarded his parental duties.
He was living in that house when a lot of the abuse was taking place. He not only condoned it, he actively participated in it. And then to abandon his kids for a year because his wife and her "friend" told him to? A quick trip or two to a family law attorney would have fixed that. He just didn't want to. This creep should be in prison, too.
I had a friend who had a "life coach" told him to seperate from his family too and he believed everything she advised. He then wanted to be like her and become a life coach too. Idk.. some people are just very manipulative and controlling.
A we ever going to talk about how much the LDS Church specifically Steven Bangerter was involved in this? Other victims have come forward saying he is the underlying connection.
Nope, we're not going to talk about it now, like we didn't talk about all those other times children were abused and the Church covered it up.
Husband is just as guilty as Ruby. He should be in jail along with his wife Ruby.
She was NOT sentenced to jail.
She was NOT sentenced to jail.
Prison then @@Ausgar-yc1yl
Thank Goodness for the kind hearted neighbor, Geesh what a shame he sounded so traumatized otp hope he is healing & know he is a hero in this disgusting case!!
Yes, it still tears me up thinking about that couple coming to the realization of what happened and how concerned they were for him. That was probably the first time he felt kindness in years.
His voice broke my heart for him and the little boy...
I can't even listen to the 911 call anymore 😔
Where was he during the abuse? - he needs to grow a pair!
Yup too cowardly to stand up for his abused kids
He was right there with Ruby abusing those kids before she left him for Jodi.
Let’s not forget that part of Ruby “calming Jody down” was to sleep with her upstairs while her husband slept alone.
What a disgusting thought!
@@stephendriscoll7549 Sadly, not a thought. It was reality. According to the interview Ruby’s husband gave to Utah police after their arrest - After Jody moved into their family home Ruby began sleeping upstairs with Jody while telling her husband he was now under “an in home separation”.
@@Rawkstar1960 I believe You completely! but to Me it is a disgusting thought, even though it was reality!
That man should be in jail as well. The audacity!
Lock him up too! He helped abuse those kids for years, making millions, long before they ever met Jodi.
And where the eff were you, sir????
Where was he when one of his sons spent 7 months sleeping on a beanbag too?
Exactly!!!!!
I do not see how this guy had no clue.
Still doesn't...
He failed those kids a million times worse than law-makers, child protective services, or teachers ever did! Shame on him for pointing blame or trying to criticize others, when all he had to do was step up as a parent and those kids would have been spared all that abuse.
I was physically and emotionally abused growing up. I would take the physical abuse any day over the emotional abuse. I am almost 40 now and I still struggle with the emotional abuse that I was subjected to. That is something I will never get over. Emotional abuse to children needs to be taken more seriously. Those scars never leave and are worse than physical abuse.
And one of the things we need to do help kids is not allow the Mormon Church (or any other organization entrusted with the care and protection of children) to sweep it under the rug.
@@raincadeifyI agree. The way they recommend their own counselors (who may not be certified) to members who are struggling just seems so conflicting, and brainwashing, to me.
LDS has a bad track record for this type of abuse... they have a distorted view on life over many many years
He would’ve left his kids in this awful condition if there had been no police interference!
I agree
He never cared enough to see how is children were.
I hope he never gets the kids back!!
I thought he had their care already??? As he was not convinced
He's blaming life coaches but not taking any responsibility for his own neglect. Red flag.
He’s a damn hypocrite!!!! The abuse is all over their defunct YT channel. Get a decent haircut dude!!!!
Dude, you abandoned your children for a YEAR. Made zero effort to obtain custody or even court-ordered visitation after you knew Jodi was crazy, "brainwashing" your wife, ran a cult, and kicked you AND your 17-year-old son out of the house. Like???
@@marleymescudi And seeing spirits in his house, come on…enough is enough! The guy needed to take a stand.
I feel like the Mormon faith leaves people in a state of gullibility. Once you've been taught to believe in stuff like magic underwear, some of the things that seem unbelievable to us are less so to members of the LDS church.
“Maintain the family unit” is why a lot of victims subject themselves to more abuse. The parents both need to be accountable.
Self-serving! All of a sudden, he is concerned. He should have been concerned when they were abusing his youngest son and daughter. His son looked like he was dying slowly from the abuse. And Ole Kevin was living his life free of children. He was only concerned with his wife. The woman that is abusing his children.
Thank you to the neighbours who called the cops. I heard that he has since passed from cancer. What a lovely last gesture he gave to this world, to help save children from their abusers. Makes me tear up hearing his emotions during the call. Rest in peace sir and thank you for helping to save these kids
Mom:*laughing and smiling*
"It's not funny"
He did not care about his children when the first thing he does is threaten to throw one of his kids in jail for stealing his "things". He was never worried about those kids in the slightest.
This pathetic father was a co-abuser with his wife and he abandoned his children long before they were rescued. That he now portrays himself as a victim-turned-advocate is disgusting.
Reminds me of Amber Heard
This man sat right next to his abuser wife supporting her actions way before Jodi came into their lives. He's just as bad.
The similarities between these folks and the Lori + Chad weirdos is really bizarre. Neither should have been around children including this father, who I think should be held accountable as well.
He has been investigated heavily and has committed no crimes, genius.
@@-MattMcCauley-Ok Kevin
People who live their lives based on mythology and fairy tales do not make rational decisions.
@@-MattMcCauley- Crime is being a weak beta letting two women run his life.
@@EmperorOfMan You clearly don't know how the family law system works, lol. Dads have NO rights, none. Kids are the property of the mother and whomever she is with. The needs of kids play zero role, it is a mother-centered system.
Those Mormans are weird
No, most child abuse occurs in non-religious divorced/single mother homes, not among LDS people. You don't know what you are talking about.
Do you k ow any in real life, or are just going off this video?
@@-MattMcCauley-Exactly, they pretend like secular people can't do wrong. 😂
Even my relatively sane Mormon friends are weird.
@@-MattMcCauley-Whether or not they occur in religious houses, where’s ur stats? or r u just being sexist?
And where was this joker when his children were being emotionally, mentally and physically abused?
Off on his own having fun and being horrible to his students, according to their reviews at BYU.
Before Ruby dumped him for her lover he was right beside Ruby abusing those kids.
How could he not notice his kids were underweight and always hungry!!!
Working on his tan.
Putting yourself back in the spotlight… not a smart move.
yes, let’s keep the kids away from Kevin too. HE DID NOTHING TO PROTECT HIS KIDS!
I still cannot fathom how he was never charged! I don’t care to hear what he says! He needs to stay away from those poor kids!
It blows my mind that he’s not taking any responsibility for his role in what his children have been through.
Never forget he let his 6 year old daughter go a full day of school w/o food. He also let his son sleep on a bean bag for 7 months. He's just as guilty as she is
The right to parent should never be higher than the children’s rights to safety
Also, this is the man who wanted his own daughter charged
He likes laws SOMETIMES.
He's got a lot of nerve......
I'm a little confused as how he didn't know what was going on ? I find it hard to believe he had no clue of the abuse. None of his kids said anything to him or he wasn't the least bit concerned about anything?
He damn well new
@@tatanayaalexandra6967Zero evidence of that.
Knew
He just wanted on the list for his kids to come clean his house. Pathetic father.
whether or not he knew, it does seem like the kids didn’t talk to him so they wouldn’t have told him, but the evidence of how he “parented” before he was out of the house is evidence enough for me to think he deserves some guilt
He is called the non protecting parent.
This guy has a lot of nerve.
Can't believe it's been almost a year and this time last year all the abusing went on.
It was physical abuse as well. Being made to jump into a cactus with bare feet and to stand in the hot sun for hours with no food and water….being starved is physical abuse. Russel was tied down and his sores weren’t treated correctly. The list goes on and on. Bottom line is that it was more than just emotional abuse
You’re right. In order to use emotional abuse, you have to have a mental health professional say that what the child went through was so emotionally bad that the child has significant life altering impact on them. That’s so hard to prove in a court of law. These kids had tons of physical abuse going on so they had plenty to remove the kids. Btw I work in child welfare so yes those kids should have been removed. If they didn’t answer the door then get an order to investigate.
Protective services should have called the police everytime they didn't answer the door...
@@jenscheibner792 well they could have but they also didn’t answer the door for the police. That’s why an order from the judge to investigate would have given them the leverage to forcibly enter the home by the cops. Cops or judges are the ones to sign the hold on the children not cps. If you can’t get the cops or a judge to do it then the kids stay where they are.
The neighbour's call get me everytime. Worthless so called Dad now trying to shift blame
She hit the nail on the head- people are so desensitized now. The welfare workers, doctors, teachers, everyone has burn out from so many calls, claims, and whats going on in society. Plus if they refuse to answer their door.. that is something too. Its a hard situation.
Then quit
Kevin is equally guilty. He left and never saw or visited his children again. Poor parenting skills. He should have seen an attorney and sued Ruby for visitation rights. I have no time for him.
*The man abandoned and betrayed every one of his children, period.*
Why wasn't he charged? He should be sitting in jail. He has failed as a parent.
This man is untrustworthy in regards to his children
Siblings participating in the abuse and then laughing about it as a family. DISGUSTING!!!
Those kids developed a mean streak because of Ruby.
This is a trained behavior. Triangulation is common in Narcissistic abuse.
The siblings were laughing at the prank, and that's why Ruby got irritated.
@@a.a.6762 yes and the pranks were abuse…you must have been one of those siblings yourself 👍
@@MNcoquicoqui exactly 🎯
This man didn't talk to his kids for a year and had no clue where they were. Nobody cares Kevin
He didn't even ask about the wellbeing of children after being told they were in the hospital. He only cared about Ruby.
Why isn’t he sharing a cell with her? He is just as guilty as those two women. And trying to act innocent is nothing but insulting especially to his children he failed.
What a speech 🤦♂️! Shame on him.
They thought CPS wanted to “rip families apart and isolate them?” What a projection 😂😂😂
He’s as guilty.
Let's tell it like it is. The church validated and recommended Jodi. People are taught to not question church leaders. No one wants to touch on this subject.
The Mormons essentially run Utah, since its founding. They are also very rich thanks to their tithing system. Very hard to go up against the people that run everything. I feel very bad for the normal people trying to live their lives there.
But Ruby and Cuckin...er I mean Kevin were abusing the kids before Jody even came into the picture. Seems like the Frankes accepted Jodi because she reinforced their abuse.
The audacity of this guy after being complicit in the abuse of his kids for years on 8 Passengers, and then abandoning them for a year because his wife told him to. Such a victim, his lack of accountability and integrity is mind-boggling.
He is equally responsible for the abuse. He abandoned his children. He let these two women abuse them.
My heart breaks for Russell and Eve. I hope that all of the Franke children are able to find peace, healing, and happiness.
I understand that Jodis ways were wrong from the beginning. But for people to blame her totally is way off. Ruby was abusing her kids mentally an keeping them hungry way b4 Jodi came along. An to even hear ruby say at sentencing that she just got involved with the wrong person was zero accountability. She is as much to blame maybe more than Jodi. I pray they never see her kids or any kids ever again..
Agreed…she’s much more to blame…she’s the mother of those children who allowed another monster around them….
Agree
The Harts, The Turpins,
Where was dad when his kids needed him? Did he file for a court appearance? Did he request police assistance? You divorce your spouse not your kids so what was he doing to be in their lives?
And he still hasn't divorced her after everything she did to the kids because he doesn't care about the kids. He keeps referring to Ruby as his wife, not ex, and is trying to place all the blame on Jody and off Ruby.
The husband's no better! Shame on him!
He needs to stop acting like he and his estranged wife were victims.
Imagine turning your family into a UA-cam business. I dont trust that guy, bad decisions like calling the cops on his daughter, wth?
He feels no shame and no remorse. He just left his children there.
Dad allowed for his kids to be tormented... Hope Kevin grew a pair since....
Hypocrite!!
The father is absolutely not a victim. The only victims in this case are the children and both parents failed them
The role of the LDS should also be investigated
YES
"We never told our viewers that" yeah Ruby...I bet you didn't and the only thing that woman regrets is probably not chaining her kids up so they could get out.
Very concerning he did not see his children for one year and had no idea what was happening, he should have gotten a lawyer and demanded visitation.
Ruby needs to be in jail until ALL of her children are adults. Anything short of that would be an insult to justice and a damger to her children if she got out. She's "lost her privileges" to be a mom.
He let Ruby abuse their kids. He is just as culpable.
For the life of me I'll never understand this man! Also, what's going on with Mormons? We have these fools and then we have Chad and Lori! I'm not judging just wondering. This is a tragedy all around.
Your comment makes no sense. Are you saying LDS people have higher rates of child abuse? There is no evidence of that, most child abuse occurs in divorced/single mother homes, not intact Mormon homes.
I'm seeing and reading a couple more loony tunes here. There's a lot more of this going on in the Mormon religion from the top down. Protecting the abusers at all costs. Kids brainwashed and conditioned not to come forward. It took one young boy to expose this by ESCAPING A TORTURE HOUSE and go to a neighbors house that he never even knew for help. His sister hid in a closet and wouldn't come out or even say anything to police. Facts hurt eh??
@@-MattMcCauley-oh ur just replying to anyone who mentions mormons and smthn negative in the same sentence w ur sexist attitude 🙄
@@briannam3140oof someone’s lacking comprehension skills
It is alarming how normalised child abuse is within many different families 😢 Hearing from people who have left these religious groups and speaking out about the abuse they suffered, it's horrifying what they went through.
2:13 but you are not uncomfortable with your child being hungry?? What monster r you.!!!!
I remember he said Ruby told him not to contact or see their children after they'd split up. And he DID. Then blamed her for everything, WTAF - imagine how hurt and abandoned his children felt - especially the young ones. He facilitated her behaviour and believes he has no responsibility. Wrong. He deserves charges too. POS. How dare he speak out now as though he's innocent. He's accountable too because lots of ab*se happened when he was with her. Horrible man. Not a dad - everything's for publicity and money.
Um, he pretty much abandoned his own children. No one should listen to him about anything.
This is wild he is trying to act like he's in support of caring for these kids and all kids of abuse.
Now he is acting as if he was innocent when in reality he was part of the he game all along.
"reported by neighbours and friends" .. but not you the DAD. Disgusting