I don't think the cypethud is doing too well. How long would it have taken to make a variant on the 3? I'm betting there are quite a few people who don't need a minivan that does 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, but just need accessible space. I know if a 3 hatch was available I would have purchased it in a heartbeat.
I bought a leaf over a 3 because hatchback, buttons, stalks, drivers display and way cheaper. True not as good a road tripper but for my daily use much better.
It’s pretty simple, the three cars under cover will be the new model 2, the roadster 2.0, and the robo-taxi. The one that looks like a van is likely the robo-taxi.
the roadster is already announced years ago so dont think they will cover it up again; it is just haven't go into production so likely the $25k cheaper model aka "model 2", the van and cybercab
The turn signal buttons on the Cybertruck are terrible (can get stuck, don’t work 100% of the time). I still believe removing the stalks is the worst change made.
Removed turn stalks will also cause EURO NCAP safety rating to drop. Any sane company would therefor not remove stalks at least for Europe (which has a gazillion roundabouts where the stalks suck big time) Which means Musk will do it anyway.
This is the main reason why I’m not buying the new model 3. it is so stupid that they took away the stocks and don’t give us the option of a head up display.
I agree. Good news is I have seen that there are some 3rd party companies developing aftermarket stalks that work similar to the S3XY buttons already available.
@@duanebonney Don't rush Tesla. That funny. R2 is 7 was announced 7 years ago. $50k is a lot of money to put into another company's domain. I wonder if Tesla is giving the depositors compounded interest on their deposits
I disagree-I think it should be extreme. The ultra luxury car market is smaller, and if Tesla wants to corner that market the Roadster has to be way better than anything on the market. If it can do 0-60 in under 1 second, nobody else will be able to claim to be faster than the Model S Plaid by 0.1 second. If it’s undisputedly faster than everything, every celebrity will buy one and the other rich folks will follow. Low volume, high margin, best of the best. I can’t afford one, but I think they should shoot for the moon! Even if it’s $400k but it can beat the most expensive combustion super car, then it’s game over for gasoline. It will only be released when it’s an undisputed hardcore smackdown to internal combustion cars. That’s how it should be. It will be the flex of all flexes. If you have $50,000 to drop on a deposit for $250,000+ car, then congratulations and good for you. I’m not going to shed any tears over you waiting for the best car in the world. 😂 I just bought a 2024 Model 3 Long Range and I absolutely love it! I waited 6 years to buy this car and I’m glad I waited until now because they finally have it dialed in to perfection. I’ve only had it for a week and I’m already falling into the normal trap of human psychology-instead of being satisfied with my amazing car that is mind blowing to my friends and family, I’m already trying to decide between the Model 3 performance or Model S for my next car. To anybody with a deposit on the Roadster, trust me-it’s worth the wait! Humans always want more, even if we already have the best. When you get your Roadster, there will literally not be a better car in the entire world. At that point, you’ll have to self-reflect on the meaning of life and what truly makes you happy, because even infinite money won’t be able to buy you a better car! 😂🤣 🚀
If advance orders for the about to go on sale here in the UK MG roadster, there is big demand for an electric roadster, even a relatively expensive but not super lux one. Tesla is being left behind on that front here in Europe.
I’m used to Elon’s hyperbole, and accept it. He still has delivered the best and easiest to live with EV fleet on the market. 5 vehicles in the current lineup and each of them best in class for EVs, especially when factoring in the supercharger network. With Optimus eventually on the way and with the battery storage business, the future looks very bright for Tesla. Pay attention to what he does more than what he says.
How about some easy software updates like 360 degree camera when backing up or parking? How about a roof that closes for those of us in Texas where the sun's heat is a thing?
Content creator is not thinking things through, if the car is in use and on the road more time during the day meaning 1 car can do what 4 were doing that reduces cars by 3. Or 1/4 the cars on the road 4x as much means no change in amount of traffic, Duh!!! I'm fact traveling empty between rides will mean more traffic. But it WILL mean fewer parking spaces needed.
I would like to see Tesla improve the existing line especially in the UI.Better and cheaper battery packs for the cars will be great as well. I really have no issues with my Model 3 LR.
Cybertruck probably doesn't have FSD yet, simply because the cameras on it don't match, so it needs to build its own database for FSD. Tesla getting their AI system to fully recognize every object as an actual object and not a 2D set of pixels might be the key. I'm sure they are still working on that.
You show a child, what a table is, the child will figure out a table in any other form, most of it correctly. That is how an AI system should be built, just a different rehash on your take.
There's no way robotaxi will "take cars off the road". Currently, the cars are only on the road when moving people, but robotaxi will be also be on the road when empty. Also while cars usually carry one or two passengers, they can accommodate 4-7 (depending on vehicle) and robotaxi can not. So that also adds some more cars on the road. There may be fewer cars needed in total and there may be a reduced need for parking spaces, but there'll be more cars on the road.
@@KRapPsychic I understand the idea of renting cars out etc... But I'm not talking about business model of robotaxi. There was a claim in the video, that robotaxi will "take cars off the road" and it simply won't. Math says "nope". It might reduce the overall number of cars, the number of cars sitting, waiting in parking spots and so on, but not the number of cars on the road.
@@HPLovecats yes, Tesla is providing the infrastructure, just like Uber does. It’s sort of the electric version of the company Getaround, if they are still around. Cleaning/charging of your vehicle is a big question mark though. I guess return to the original pick up place. And do renters drive or just go full FSD on your vehicle? So to join the program, do you pay $8k ante, or $100/month for FSD, plus other fees and per rider splits?
How does the robotaxi clean up the vomit and other messes that passengers leave behind? How does it get washed? I envision a bunch of cars filthy inside & out that would make a bus/subway look like a cleanroom. How does it load walkers & wheelchairs for the disabled? I see massive ADA issues.
You did not say anything about the megapack, this is Tesla's biggest growth until we get to Optimus or robotaxi. I think Tesla robotaxi will be launched in China first. Then the US.
From what has been reported elsewhere, Tesla does not have the database for learning for China that they do in the US, and the regulatory situation is not as favorable.
The difference between CT and roadster is people weren’t promised free CTs for “free” marketing or plunking down a 1/4 of a million dollars for a product
Really. anything is possible.. but! didn't Elon tweet that FSD will be very difficult to achieve on the current hardware platform? second, Tesla's board of directors informed JP Morgan that the robotaxi will be built on the next gen chassis. new model 2 pushed to 2026. lol it's all bs and fairytales.
I really don’t understand why they want to prioritize the robotaxi project. I understand FSD is Tesla’s future but come on Elon not all of us can afford the Model 3 some of us just want the cheaper Model 2
Tesla and Musk probably hurt their licensing abilities when they fired the supercharger team and delayed NACS access for all the automakers that made deals with Tesla. That had to have really affected other companies’ faith in Tesla being able to deliver and uphold their ends of deals, which would make them cautious to sign another deal with Tesla and probably bring the price they’re willing to pay down due to the uncertainty
No worries, it won't become reality anytime soon. Robotaxies would mean it would have to be certified as being able to be fully autonomous. Tesla has NO certification about any level of autonomy. Mercedes has level 3 but only under a million limiting factors. But they'll take responsibility if you have a problem. Tesla would have to do the same which they can't because FSD, while driving much more impressively than Mercedes' limited system, will crash you in an unforseen event and Tesla will just tell you it was a beta and your fault that you relied on the system.
@@agentred8732I’ve seen videos and I think it’s getting there, but there are some scenarios I still worry about if there are no human controls. For example, driving down a street with parallel parking. I can see a kid running off the sidewalk, disappearing between two parked trucks, and I can intuit that the kid will likely run out from between the trucks into the street and I can slow down or stop. But I’m not sure Tesla FSD understands that. It may see pedestrian on sidewalk then pedestrian gone. It has superior reflexes for when the kid re-appears but it will carry a higher speed into that situation and sometimes reflex speed can’t beat physics. Similarly, we can pick up on a lot of cues from other drivers that the technology can’t at this point. I’m looking forward to self-driving cars being ubiquitous (if only for selfish reasons) but there are still a lot of uncommon encounters that I’m concerned still merit a human being able to take control, or at least set a speed decrease.
They only owe 80 to people that generated millions and millions of dollars - you had to refer like 50 people before you got a Roadster. If you were a Tesla salesman and sold 50 Teslas you'd be getting a free car, too. Truth is Tesla has bigger fish to fry than a Roadster - been there done that 17 years ago - my 1st ride in a Tesla was the Roadster. 😎
@@mscolli3 You mean the Highland refresh? Of course a new vastly improved model cost more but your wrong about the tax incentive as prices in general for Teslas are cheaper than ever. The Plaid went down $30k in a matter of weeks after it came out at $120k. None of this has to do with Roadster V2 which as I said is not even in their list of to-dos. Right now it's all about August reveal, Robotaxi and Optimus, period full stop. 🎬
Listening to Elon for accurate news about Tesla is like...Listening to Elon, we all know his track record and if he was believed, we would all be driving flying Teslas that go 500 miles for $30k
I've had a recent test drive in the new Model 3 since my current Model 3 is nearly 4 years old. It took me less than 5 minutes to get used to being stalkless...
Semi is still basically a beta product. They've been working with Pepsi to work out the kinks before production and improvements are being pushed out on the fly. They will expand to additional companies shortly but are unlikely to enter full scale production for some time as the factory in Nevada to build them at scale is still under construction. First production of the "Finished" product won't be until late 2025 at the earliest.
@@Ryan-ff2dbplus the infrastructure to charge them hasn’t been built. They aren’t going to recharge at your local supercharger. If they can only charge at the company’s depot, they won’t be effective for long hauls for a long time without truck stops to charge them.
@@KRapPsychic True, Pepsi has Mega-chargers at their distribution centers and they charge them over-night. Trucks used for distribution rarely if ever travel more than 500 miles in a day, which is Semi's range. Tesla is building out Mega chargers at locations along major routes for longer hauls but like the truck itself mega chargers are still in the testing phases.
not having stalks, would most likely prevent some from even considering the vehicle. i'll keep my current one that has stalks, thank you, perhaps a company like S3XY Buttons can address this for those that want to have stalks?
Already been done. Check the UA-camrs. I'm in the market to trade up to an S, but it will be used. I want stalks and chrome. Lack of stalks and yokes are idiocy. Like FSD and Robotaxi. Wa just wondering... when a Robotaxi fails or has issues, then what? Call another and abandon the bad one?
The Model S will be the next vehicle that will get steer by wire. Making the yoke option in the Model S more pleasant and enjoyable. I will upgrade my 2020 Model S P.L. when I see that. 😁
Tesla needs to step back from production at this point and spend a little bit working on service center capacity. We have on a regular basis here 3+ weeks to get an appointment even for basics such as an alignment.
Model S/X needs more than just ambient lighting and a front camera. they need an extensive refresh of their exteriors, many people now feel that the model 3 performance is the best loking tesla since the refresh.
I don't understand how robo taxis will take cars off the road. I can see how they'd reduce the need for parking facilities and the number of cars in general but if you take a trip with your own car or a robo taxi that's still the same amount of cars physically on the road isn't it? I'm sure I'm missing something though because I've heard it mentioned a few times when it comes to robo taxis but i don't quite get it. EDIT: just to be clear i think there is a lot of value in the idea still, i just don't understand this specific claim.
My 2 cents, they might increase congestion as more people will skip public transportation & take a Robo and more people will take them more often because of their ease and price. So let's say there's 30 people on a bus but robo's become so cheap that all of them take 30 robo's, well now you went from one big bus to 30 cars all navigating the same road
One imagines if vehicles are utilised for most of the day by different people there’ll be fewer vehicles required by the population because fewer people will buy their own car. If people have to pay for each journey they’ll be less likely to do frivolous journeys or just go for a ride. On the other hand trains and buses might be less popular.
I'd argue the X might need a full redesign at this point, it has some compelling competition with the EV9 and R1S. Sort of a similar story with the S, why get an S when the M3P so so good for the money?
Model name suggestions “2 S 3 X Y 4 U” model 2 for cheap alternative model 4 as a mini van or ride share vehicle , and U for utility van or delivery vehicle Please leave your thoughts
Tesla is teaming up with Aptera to make the Robotaxi which is really futuristic looking. The Aptera Robotaxi will have a Tesla motor instead of the wheel motors Aptera had hoped to use. It will give the Aptera a much-improved drivetrain, more tested and reliable. Tesla seats, Tesla Insurance, driver interface, infotainment system, Hardware 5, and perhaps steer-by-wire may be included.
I hope what you outlined turns out to be true. Aptera is playing the classic "how to go broke making a new car" playbook. Elon will teach them how to mass produce a wonderful idea.
@@oldwillytc6296 Very nicely written by the way. Agreed. Aptera's fresh look will jive up Tesla & potentially add a solar option to their other vehicles. (Strange that Tesla hasn't developed solar for itself.) Using Tesla parts, heated steering wheel, pedals, motors, heated/cooled seats, chargers, etc. will be a boon. Aptera needs Tesla's experience and mass-production practicality.
Tesla having a cheaper model would be nice but I think refreshing the existing line and offering more colors would help the company more starting with the Model Y. Instead of the roadster being a supercar it should be offered in an affordable model with a convertible version available.
So Ryan do you have any idea why or when Tesla will be introducing vehicle to grid on all their vehicles like all other manufacturers? If they don’t this, this would be flying in the face of their corporate mission statement, seems odd it isn’t discussed or a high priority, don’t you think?
Who will charge the car while it is on taxi service, before each trip? Does Tesla have a dedicated team to fix any issues on the road while the car is on autopilot taxi service?
What on earth is this robo taxi nonsense? Tesla’s fully autonomous robo taxi is years away. I’m frustrated that Musk has wasted so many resources and so much time building the ridiculous cyber truck which will never be legal in most countries. He should focus on the model 2. We need cheaper EVs if we’re going to get further towards total electrification of cars. Sub $20k.
The elusive $25,000 EV becoming tougher as the USA dollar continues downward slide. 2019 to now home/cars up over 42% increase. Gold $2300/ounce reflecting devalued dollar. Covid so much money printed that should not of been, inflation. Inflating monetary system caused inflation. Thx QE!
By the time the Roadster is "released", it will have 1,000 miles of range and amazing stealth technology that makes it impossible to see, hear or touch. You won't even know it is there. The price will be $350K and it will come with a certificate of authenticity to prove it was delivered to you.
From earning a honest buck-from owning a selfdriving Tesla to robotaxis - seems like Tesla easily forget previus promises to their customers. By the way .. Robotaxi, when Vision Parking cannot even recognise a red pillar i a parking lot😂.
Geeze you listed off quite a few suppositions, which Tesla doesn't appear to have addressed. Here's the rototesa... coming soon. Sorry, that's the roadster 2....
Why? Has anyone considered this question? Autonomous taxis… why? Are all taxi drivers bad? Are taxi/ ride sharing costs soaring above acceptable rates? Has anyone really asked the traveling public these 2 critical questions: 1. If given the choice, would you jump in a driverless cab or one with a human? And 2. Would those who own FSD equipped cars, really allow random strangers to “use” your car for autonomous taxi rides. Can’t help but wonder if the entire market has gotten drunk from the presumed financials without really considering certain realities.
Releasing autonomous taxis is how you poll the public. If the people don't want it, the business will fail. I suppose it will have to cost less than the typical taxi in order for people to prefer it. Side note: If the future has lots of autonomous EVs in it, I would prefer if they didn't weigh 5,000 lb and have the ability to get to 60 mph in a parking lot.
Uber /Lyft are getting very expensive. Some of the cars are also pretty crappy ( looking at you Prius drivers > 200,000 miles). Not unexpected, but disappointing and doesn’t make it convenient or cost-effective to eliminate a car from the driveway.
I would like someone to explain to me exactly how robotaxis will take cars off the road and reduce congestion? Wouldn't they do the exact opposite. If they lower the cost of a ride won't they increase the number of trips and therefore increase congestion? Even without increasing the number of trips and just replacing private cars they would increase congestion. If I drive my car to work in the morning I leave my home and drive to work. If I take a robtaxi the car has to travel the same distance from my home to work plus the additional trip to my home and from my work to pick up someone else. How does that reduce congestion?
Why would you drive your robotaxi to work and then it drive back home on its own? Wouldn’t it just become a taxi near your work? Also, the only example I remember Elon giving is it would start taxi mode when you get home from work and end taxi mode when you wake up in the morning to go to work.
@@HypocritesExposd I never said anything about driving your own robotaxi to work. I was just trying to contrast the congestion caused by driving your own private car to work as opposed to taking a robotaxi to work. The difference being the extra congestion caused by the robotaxi coming to pick you up at home and then leaving from your workplace. Just saying that robotaxis will increase congestion on the roads. Robotaxis will not lower traffic congestion. their numbers will for sure be regulated in big cities or they will be a traffic disaster.
More people per car instead of 1 car per person. It gets used by various people throughout the day instead of all of their cars being on the road to take them.
Robo taxis won’t take vehicles off the road. The numbers of cars on the road is determined by the number of trips required and how many of those can be handled by the same vehicles. Unless you get people to share robo taxis the number of miles driven and traffic density will actually increase as robo taxis drive to pick up their next fairs. What will decline is the numbers of parking spaces required all over the country.
Why do you use the phrase "taking vehicles off the road"? If the so-far-hypothetical robotaxis rack up a lot of miles, that will reduce the total number of vehicles. But it won't reduce the number of vehicles on the road, since the robotaxis will presumably only be used for rides that someone would otherwise be doing themself. What robotaxis may be able to do is reduce the number of needed parking spaces. Only mass transit (or, to a lesser extent, ride sharing) can reduce the number of vehicles on the road.
While in theory it may reduce the number of actual vehicles produced (maybe), this idea that it will actually reduce the number of cars on the road at any given time is dead wrong. Taxis drive upwards of 50% of their time empty. That’s why many large downtowns have Taxi stands (to reduce congestion). The most efficient use of available roadway capacity is to have the individuals who will be in the vehicle to only use the vehicle when they actually need it. While this increases the number of actual cars produced, as long as you have adequate storage (parking), there is 100% efficiency when actually using the road infrastructure.
Unlike other car companies that have other cars to market when they announce new cars, Tesla has 2. If Tesla doesn't have something rolling off the assembly lines by the end of the year, I'm not sure how many times Tesla can announce futures with no delivery date. Then again, delivery dates haven't meant much
Elon should just outright say that the 25k model is not possible. After extensive feasibility study, the 32k model is as cheap as we can make it; now stop bugging me about the 25k model.
I didn't like the stalkless option but still purchased new M3 a few days ago. They did the free FSD transfer, that was the main reason. I do miss indicating the turning signals at times or click the wrong one, but it isn't as bad as long as you approach it with an open mind and just accept it. Many options are gone compared to my 2018 M3, again, it's a matter of accepting it. Never say never, I used to say I would never get this version, eating my own words. 2024 M3 is clearly better than the old one in many ways. One thing that is truly missing is a front bumper camera, with no ultrasonic sensors, it's limiting in some use cases (garage). One caveat, if you have issues with thumbs, tremor, arthritis, etc. you have a bit of hard time hitting those turn signals, etc. Since I drive close to 100% on FSD, it's not as critical, but something to note. Here in Utah turn signals seem to be optional for most Utahns, but a friend of mine did get a ticket for a "late" turn signal. Go figure. The weirdest thing for me, indicating the right signal is natural, do it automatically, but I often have to think for a second when clicking the left one (bottom button). Guess, I'll just make right turns only from now on. Or re-train my own neural net to get used to it. Time will tell.
Bring back stalks, a physical drive selector, and a dash or heads up display if you want any chance at my (and most people's) money. Otherwise, your stock value is capped. 🤷🏻
When will powerwall have V2H??!! GM, Ford, Hyundai, and now Rivian have it! How is it thay they dont use the car battery pack to expand their powerwall?!!
Zoox Is Already Out With Driverless Vehicles. They Have UA-cam Videos Demonstrating How There Robo Taxi Works. I’m Super Impressed And Can’t Wait Until Teslas Finally Implement There Version Of Driverless Vehicles/Robo Taxi.
I heard the Roadster will support invisibility and teleportation!!! LOL -- Look, that vehicle is NEVER going to ship. They will have to give the money back to people who put down deposits. And lets say it does ship in two more years ... we'll have been looking at that vehicle for 10 years then ... who wants something that old looking???
There is ONE BIG reason no roadster! A lot of people EARNED free ones thru the referral program and Tesla doesn’t want to pay them or give them their cars at 200k$+ pop. That’s pretty disgusting to screw people over who pimped the brand
When Hertz when bankrupt, I thought Tesla should had acquired them. Why? Need a place for there robotaxi to go 24/7 for storage, maintenance, and rent for those not sold on autonomy or like to drive.
ride share is a big risk, there are only that many people who are willing to, at least today I'd rather have my EV support V2H while it's sitting in the garage or driveway
@@preeyakumari-i2qI really don’t think they are needed in the US, roads are generally straight with 90 degree stops. But you have a good argument for Eurozone, more signaling on curvy roads.
It would be wonderful if Tesla or another Musk enterprise would enter the field of mobility devices and prosthetics. What about something too advanced to be called a "Wheelchair," possibly combined with Optimus technology and controlled via Neuralink implant.
I feel the Roadster will not be delivered for a whole because Elon owes free Roadsters to quite a few people. If I'm not mistaken, there was an incentive offered to people who used reached a certain number of referral codes. Simply putting that out there. No evidence whatsoever.
High demand ruined the range on the CT. They will certainly bouble the range in the second gen. They need a luxury sub model of the s/x with massage seats and other higher end option that other chinese cars come with. Also the X need to come down to ~65k cause kia ev9 is now competing with it.
I predict robo taxis will be a huge disappointment just a lawsuit magnet, not just for Tesla but for all companies. I would say the billions spend on those projects will never be made back ever. Tesla has exact data on how many FSD have been sold and how much it's used and they don't publish that data or even share it with inventors for a reason.
While I agree robotaxi will probably be a disappointment initially, eventually car companies will figure out FSD. Whether it's Tesla or some other company, cars will be driving themselves a lot sooner than people think, especially considering they already are, and not just Tesla.
I like Elon’s forwarding looking innovation, but based on Elon time, and past promises of FSD and other vehicles, most announcements are late, with exception to Model Y, which I believe came in earlier than promised.
A hatchback Model 3, basically a smaller Model Y? And at $25k? I’m in.
I don't think the cypethud is doing too well. How long would it have taken to make a variant on the 3? I'm betting there are quite a few people who don't need a minivan that does 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, but just need accessible space. I know if a 3 hatch was available I would have purchased it in a heartbeat.
I bought a leaf over a 3 because hatchback, buttons, stalks, drivers display and way cheaper. True not as good a road tripper but for my daily use much better.
You're in what? Buying stock..
@@HypocritesExposd $25k? What can you buy for $25k? A stripped down basic Honda Civic?
It’s pretty simple, the three cars under cover will be the new model 2, the roadster 2.0, and the robo-taxi. The one that looks like a van is likely the robo-taxi.
a cargo van, roadster and robo taxi
the roadster is already announced years ago so dont think they will cover it up again; it is just haven't go into production
so likely the $25k cheaper model aka "model 2", the van and cybercab
Ryan, your audio dropped out for about 45 seconds beginning at 10:15. Great video and info nonetheless!❤
It's secret information that Tesla doesn't want released.
Mine cuts out at 10:12 until 10:31.
Mine too.
it's probably when copyrighted music came in
10:12 silence until 10:31
The turn signal buttons on the Cybertruck are terrible (can get stuck, don’t work 100% of the time). I still believe removing the stalks is the worst change made.
Removed turn stalks will also cause EURO NCAP safety rating to drop. Any sane company would therefor not remove stalks at least for Europe (which has a gazillion roundabouts where the stalks suck big time) Which means Musk will do it anyway.
This is the main reason why I’m not buying the new model 3. it is so stupid that they took away the stocks and don’t give us the option of a head up display.
I agree. Good news is I have seen that there are some 3rd party companies developing aftermarket stalks that work similar to the S3XY buttons already available.
You can buy aftermarket stalks to highland
I drove an M3P today and the buttons are easy to get used to. I was using them fine 5 minutes into the test drive.
Ryan, I appreciate your professionalism in delivering TSLA info. Thank you!
It would be nice to have an emergency switch or button in the robotaxi in case something going on
The roadster does not need to be exteme. It just needs to be attainable, and built.
Elon knows only one way. Extreme.
Don’t rush Tesla. It‘ll be worth the wait.
And hold the sensors, screens, gps, wifi, cameras....
@@duanebonney Don't rush Tesla. That funny. R2 is 7 was announced 7 years ago. $50k is a lot of money to put into another company's domain. I wonder if Tesla is giving the depositors compounded interest on their deposits
I disagree-I think it should be extreme. The ultra luxury car market is smaller, and if Tesla wants to corner that market the Roadster has to be way better than anything on the market.
If it can do 0-60 in under 1 second, nobody else will be able to claim to be faster than the Model S Plaid by 0.1 second. If it’s undisputedly faster than everything, every celebrity will buy one and the other rich folks will follow.
Low volume, high margin, best of the best.
I can’t afford one, but I think they should shoot for the moon! Even if it’s $400k but it can beat the most expensive combustion super car, then it’s game over for gasoline.
It will only be released when it’s an undisputed hardcore smackdown to internal combustion cars. That’s how it should be. It will be the flex of all flexes.
If you have $50,000 to drop on a deposit for $250,000+ car, then congratulations and good for you. I’m not going to shed any tears over you waiting for the best car in the world. 😂
I just bought a 2024 Model 3 Long Range and I absolutely love it! I waited 6 years to buy this car and I’m glad I waited until now because they finally have it dialed in to perfection.
I’ve only had it for a week and I’m already falling into the normal trap of human psychology-instead of being satisfied with my amazing car that is mind blowing to my friends and family, I’m already trying to decide between the Model 3 performance or Model S for my next car.
To anybody with a deposit on the Roadster, trust me-it’s worth the wait!
Humans always want more, even if we already have the best. When you get your Roadster, there will literally not be a better car in the entire world.
At that point, you’ll have to self-reflect on the meaning of life and what truly makes you happy, because even infinite money won’t be able to buy you a better car! 😂🤣 🚀
If advance orders for the about to go on sale here in the UK MG roadster, there is big demand for an electric roadster, even a relatively expensive but not super lux one. Tesla is being left behind on that front here in Europe.
I’m used to Elon’s hyperbole, and accept it. He still has delivered the best and easiest to live with EV fleet on the market. 5 vehicles in the current lineup and each of them best in class for EVs, especially when factoring in the supercharger network. With Optimus eventually on the way and with the battery storage business, the future looks very bright for Tesla. Pay attention to what he does more than what he says.
How about some easy software updates like 360 degree camera when backing up or parking? How about a roof that closes for those of us in Texas where the sun's heat is a thing?
Damn the roadser looks good from behind
That's all you're ever gonna see, unless it's airborne! Good to know it's gonna make you happy.😂
2:20 The robotaxi will not take cars off roads or reduce congestion, only public transit or ride-sharing can do that....
Content creator is not thinking things through, if the car is in use and on the road more time during the day meaning 1 car can do what 4 were doing that reduces cars by 3. Or 1/4 the cars on the road 4x as much means no change in amount of traffic, Duh!!! I'm fact traveling empty between rides will mean more traffic. But it WILL mean fewer parking spaces needed.
Looking forward for the next gen of optimus robots 😎
I would like to see Tesla improve the existing line especially in the UI.Better and cheaper battery packs for the cars will be great as well. I really have no issues with my Model 3 LR.
Reminds me of “Johnny Cab” from Total Recall 👍
Nice round up Ryan!! 😎
Cybertruck probably doesn't have FSD yet, simply because the cameras on it don't match, so it needs to build its own database for FSD. Tesla getting their AI system to fully recognize every object as an actual object and not a 2D set of pixels might be the key. I'm sure they are still working on that.
You show a child, what a table is, the child will figure out a table in any other form, most of it correctly. That is how an AI system should be built, just a different rehash on your take.
There's no way robotaxi will "take cars off the road". Currently, the cars are only on the road when moving people, but robotaxi will be also be on the road when empty. Also while cars usually carry one or two passengers, they can accommodate 4-7 (depending on vehicle) and robotaxi can not. So that also adds some more cars on the road.
There may be fewer cars needed in total and there may be a reduced need for parking spaces, but there'll be more cars on the road.
The future idea is to allow Tesla owners to rent out there cars into the Taxi pool, like an AirBnB, allowing your car to be an income stream.
@@KRapPsychic yea right, this was promised back in 2019? Anybody made $30k Elon promised?
@@KRapPsychic I understand the idea of renting cars out etc... But I'm not talking about business model of robotaxi. There was a claim in the video, that robotaxi will "take cars off the road" and it simply won't. Math says "nope". It might reduce the overall number of cars, the number of cars sitting, waiting in parking spots and so on, but not the number of cars on the road.
@anolegian99 i remember. even if that were the case, tesla will take a huge cut
@@HPLovecats yes, Tesla is providing the infrastructure, just like Uber does. It’s sort of the electric version of the company Getaround, if they are still around. Cleaning/charging of your vehicle is a big question mark though. I guess return to the original pick up place. And do renters drive or just go full FSD on your vehicle? So to join the program, do you pay $8k ante, or $100/month for FSD, plus other fees and per rider splits?
Taxis will be trashed in short order. Then they’ll be removed. How did all others fare? (Bikes/scooters)
How does the robotaxi clean up the vomit and other messes that passengers leave behind? How does it get washed? I envision a bunch of cars filthy inside & out that would make a bus/subway look like a cleanroom. How does it load walkers & wheelchairs for the disabled? I see massive ADA issues.
You did not say anything about the megapack, this is Tesla's biggest growth until we get to Optimus or robotaxi. I think Tesla robotaxi will be launched in China first. Then the US.
its spam.
From what has been reported elsewhere, Tesla does not have the database for learning for China that they do in the US, and the regulatory situation is not as favorable.
The difference between CT and roadster is people weren’t promised free CTs for “free” marketing or plunking down a 1/4 of a million dollars for a product
Could be, might be, maybe, should be, possibly. Really?
Really. anything is possible.. but! didn't Elon tweet that FSD will be very difficult to achieve on the current hardware platform?
second, Tesla's board of directors informed JP Morgan that the robotaxi will be built on the next gen chassis.
new model 2 pushed to 2026. lol it's all bs and fairytales.
A non news video. Pressure of churning out youtube videos....
Lol yup yup
i love tesla cars because i love driving them...i don't really care about the auto drive except the autosteer on freeways
Ryan, brilliant summary of Tesla's amazing and interconnected product range. Many thanks, Eamon
I really don’t understand why they want to prioritize the robotaxi project. I understand FSD is Tesla’s future but come on Elon not all of us can afford the Model 3 some of us just want the cheaper Model 2
Tesla and Musk probably hurt their licensing abilities when they fired the supercharger team and delayed NACS access for all the automakers that made deals with Tesla. That had to have really affected other companies’ faith in Tesla being able to deliver and uphold their ends of deals, which would make them cautious to sign another deal with Tesla and probably bring the price they’re willing to pay down due to the uncertainty
a robo taxi using FSD? yikes! no thanks. I prefer life.
What an odd comment. Have you actually experienced FSD? Currently almost flawless. Improving very rapidly. Maybe totally flawless one day soon.
No worries, it won't become reality anytime soon. Robotaxies would mean it would have to be certified as being able to be fully autonomous. Tesla has NO certification about any level of autonomy. Mercedes has level 3 but only under a million limiting factors. But they'll take responsibility if you have a problem. Tesla would have to do the same which they can't because FSD, while driving much more impressively than Mercedes' limited system, will crash you in an unforseen event and Tesla will just tell you it was a beta and your fault that you relied on the system.
I have it and I trust it more than a lot of the idiot human drivers out there!
@@agentred8732I’ve seen videos and I think it’s getting there, but there are some scenarios I still worry about if there are no human controls. For example, driving down a street with parallel parking. I can see a kid running off the sidewalk, disappearing between two parked trucks, and I can intuit that the kid will likely run out from between the trucks into the street and I can slow down or stop. But I’m not sure Tesla FSD understands that. It may see pedestrian on sidewalk then pedestrian gone. It has superior reflexes for when the kid re-appears but it will carry a higher speed into that situation and sometimes reflex speed can’t beat physics.
Similarly, we can pick up on a lot of cues from other drivers that the technology can’t at this point.
I’m looking forward to self-driving cars being ubiquitous (if only for selfish reasons) but there are still a lot of uncommon encounters that I’m concerned still merit a human being able to take control, or at least set a speed decrease.
I recon it will be Ford that will use FSD. Given the relationship between Elon and Jim.
They will NEVER release a Roadster - they owe too many free ones from the referral program.
They only owe 80 to people that generated millions and millions of dollars - you had to refer like 50 people before you got a Roadster. If you were a Tesla salesman and sold 50 Teslas you'd be getting a free car, too. Truth is Tesla has bigger fish to fry than a Roadster - been there done that 17 years ago - my 1st ride in a Tesla was the Roadster. 😎
@@cuda426hemi Just saying Tesla is a business first. Just like a 35-40K Model 3 suddenly became a 47K car when the tax credit became available.
@@mscolli3 You mean the Highland refresh? Of course a new vastly improved model cost more but your wrong about the tax incentive as prices in general for Teslas are cheaper than ever. The Plaid went down $30k in a matter of weeks after it came out at $120k. None of this has to do with Roadster V2 which as I said is not even in their list of to-dos. Right now it's all about August reveal, Robotaxi and Optimus, period full stop. 🎬
Don’t say that; a lawsuit is going to happen then 😂
Also the $25k car… THAT EVERYONE WANTS!!😡
Listening to Elon for accurate news about Tesla is like...Listening to Elon, we all know his track record and if he was believed, we would all be driving flying Teslas that go 500 miles for $30k
The future is so bright 🌞 I gotta wear shades 😎
No, you got rose coloured glasses on.
I’m a Tesla fan, but autopilot will not let you lol
How does a robotaxi charge itself? battery swap model like NIO?
They have wireless charging already in the works check it out
@@Oregonwildman1wireless charging, what could go wrong. Lol
Tesla: We are at the forefront of robotics.
Boston Dynamics: How so ? 😅
Can you cover TesDisplay app one that mirrors phone to Tesla at length in one of the episodes
Ryan, how will the robo-taxi stay charged if it is in constant use?
It can't be in "constant" use. It will stop occasionally.
I've had a recent test drive in the new Model 3 since my current Model 3 is nearly 4 years old. It took me less than 5 minutes to get used to being stalkless...
Will semi have improvements once it starts production?
Semi is still basically a beta product. They've been working with Pepsi to work out the kinks before production and improvements are being pushed out on the fly. They will expand to additional companies shortly but are unlikely to enter full scale production for some time as the factory in Nevada to build them at scale is still under construction. First production of the "Finished" product won't be until late 2025 at the earliest.
@@Ryan-ff2dbplus the infrastructure to charge them hasn’t been built. They aren’t going to recharge at your local supercharger. If they can only charge at the company’s depot, they won’t be effective for long hauls for a long time without truck stops to charge them.
@@KRapPsychic True, Pepsi has Mega-chargers at their distribution centers and they charge them over-night. Trucks used for distribution rarely if ever travel more than 500 miles in a day, which is Semi's range. Tesla is building out Mega chargers at locations along major routes for longer hauls but like the truck itself mega chargers are still in the testing phases.
Affordable repair cost and low battery replacement cost are the key. No matter the cost of car is 25k or below.
How does robotaxi work during surge needs like going to work and back? Where do the extra cars come from?
not having stalks, would most likely prevent some from even considering the vehicle. i'll keep my current one that has stalks, thank you, perhaps a company like S3XY Buttons can address this for those that want to have stalks?
Already been done. Check the UA-camrs. I'm in the market to trade up to an S, but it will be used. I want stalks and chrome. Lack of stalks and yokes are idiocy. Like FSD and Robotaxi.
Wa just wondering... when a Robotaxi fails or has issues, then what? Call another and abandon the bad one?
Omg this was such an exciting video. Thanks 🙏 heaps for all the info Ryan.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The Model S will be the next vehicle that will get steer by wire. Making the yoke option in the Model S more pleasant and enjoyable. I will upgrade my 2020 Model S P.L. when I see that. 😁
Hopefully model Y refresh will also raise the ground clearance by a couple of inches...
It would be nice if they made a van like the ID Buzz for families
Tesla needs to step back from production at this point and spend a little bit working on service center capacity. We have on a regular basis here 3+ weeks to get an appointment even for basics such as an alignment.
Model S/X needs more than just ambient lighting and a front camera. they need an extensive refresh of their exteriors, many people now feel that the model 3 performance is the best loking tesla since the refresh.
I don't understand how robo taxis will take cars off the road. I can see how they'd reduce the need for parking facilities and the number of cars in general but if you take a trip with your own car or a robo taxi that's still the same amount of cars physically on the road isn't it?
I'm sure I'm missing something though because I've heard it mentioned a few times when it comes to robo taxis but i don't quite get it.
EDIT: just to be clear i think there is a lot of value in the idea still, i just don't understand this specific claim.
My 2 cents, they might increase congestion as more people will skip public transportation & take a Robo and more people will take them more often because of their ease and price. So let's say there's 30 people on a bus but robo's become so cheap that all of them take 30 robo's, well now you went from one big bus to 30 cars all navigating the same road
One imagines if vehicles are utilised for most of the day by different people there’ll be fewer vehicles required by the population because fewer people will buy their own car. If people have to pay for each journey they’ll be less likely to do frivolous journeys or just go for a ride. On the other hand trains and buses might be less popular.
Same crap we've heard about for years, and will probably be delayed for years to come.
I'm happy with my $20k fsd Tesla with almost zero miles
I'd argue the X might need a full redesign at this point, it has some compelling competition with the EV9 and R1S. Sort of a similar story with the S, why get an S when the M3P so so good for the money?
How about better range? Enough of how it looks.
What about the roadster, the roadster isn’t on that car line up at 3 minutes and 20 seconds.
Small Cybertruck half the size of present truck, I will buy one.
Model name suggestions “2 S 3 X Y 4 U” model 2 for cheap alternative model 4 as a mini van or ride share vehicle , and U for utility van or delivery vehicle
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Tesla is teaming up with Aptera to make the Robotaxi which is really futuristic looking. The Aptera Robotaxi will have a Tesla motor instead of the wheel motors Aptera had hoped to use. It will give the Aptera a much-improved drivetrain, more tested and reliable. Tesla seats, Tesla Insurance, driver interface, infotainment system, Hardware 5, and perhaps steer-by-wire may be included.
I hope what you outlined turns out to be true. Aptera is playing the classic "how to go broke making a new car" playbook. Elon will teach them how to mass produce a wonderful idea.
@@oldwillytc6296 Very nicely written by the way. Agreed. Aptera's fresh look will jive up Tesla & potentially add a solar option to their other vehicles. (Strange that Tesla hasn't developed solar for itself.) Using Tesla parts, heated steering wheel, pedals, motors, heated/cooled seats, chargers, etc. will be a boon. Aptera needs Tesla's experience and mass-production practicality.
I thought referral links were not working any longer.
Tesla having a cheaper model would be nice but I think refreshing the existing line and offering more colors would help the company more starting with the Model Y. Instead of the roadster being a supercar it should be offered in an affordable model with a convertible version available.
If we wanted a cheap, no frills , short-range EV, the Nissan Leaf would be super popular.
Good job, Ryan. I'm a new subscriber and appreciate your thoughtful and logical possible forecasts.
Thanks and welcome
So Ryan do you have any idea why or when Tesla will be introducing vehicle to grid on all their vehicles like all other manufacturers? If they don’t this, this would be flying in the face of their corporate mission statement, seems odd it isn’t discussed or a high priority, don’t you think?
10 new products? I only heard him talk about 1 product that I didn't know of before.
Who will charge the car while it is on taxi service, before each trip? Does Tesla have a dedicated team to fix any issues on the road while the car is on autopilot taxi service?
What on earth is this robo taxi nonsense? Tesla’s fully autonomous robo taxi is years away. I’m frustrated that Musk has wasted so many resources and so much time building the ridiculous cyber truck which will never be legal in most countries.
He should focus on the model 2. We need cheaper EVs if we’re going to get further towards total electrification of cars. Sub $20k.
The elusive $25,000 EV becoming tougher as the USA dollar continues downward slide. 2019 to now home/cars up over 42% increase. Gold $2300/ounce reflecting devalued dollar. Covid so much money printed that should not of been, inflation. Inflating monetary system caused inflation. Thx QE!
Could be worse could be China !
Do people take Elon announcement seriously?
By the time the Roadster is "released", it will have 1,000 miles of range and amazing stealth technology that makes it impossible to see, hear or touch. You won't even know it is there. The price will be $350K and it will come with a certificate of authenticity to prove it was delivered to you.
From earning a honest buck-from owning a selfdriving Tesla to robotaxis - seems like Tesla easily forget previus promises to their customers. By the way .. Robotaxi, when Vision Parking cannot even recognise a red pillar i a parking lot😂.
Geeze you listed off quite a few suppositions, which Tesla doesn't appear to have addressed. Here's the rototesa... coming soon. Sorry, that's the roadster 2....
Why? Has anyone considered this question? Autonomous taxis… why? Are all taxi drivers bad? Are taxi/ ride sharing costs soaring above acceptable rates? Has anyone really asked the traveling public these 2 critical questions: 1. If given the choice, would you jump in a driverless cab or one with a human? And 2. Would those who own FSD equipped cars, really allow random strangers to “use” your car for autonomous taxi rides. Can’t help but wonder if the entire market has gotten drunk from the presumed financials without really considering certain realities.
Releasing autonomous taxis is how you poll the public. If the people don't want it, the business will fail. I suppose it will have to cost less than the typical taxi in order for people to prefer it.
Side note: If the future has lots of autonomous EVs in it, I would prefer if they didn't weigh 5,000 lb and have the ability to get to 60 mph in a parking lot.
Uber /Lyft are getting very expensive. Some of the cars are also pretty crappy ( looking at you Prius drivers > 200,000 miles).
Not unexpected, but disappointing and doesn’t make it convenient or cost-effective to eliminate a car from the driveway.
I would like someone to explain to me exactly how robotaxis will take cars off the road and reduce congestion? Wouldn't they do the exact opposite. If they lower the cost of a ride won't they increase the number of trips and therefore increase congestion? Even without increasing the number of trips and just replacing private cars they would increase congestion. If I drive my car to work in the morning I leave my home and drive to work. If I take a robtaxi the car has to travel the same distance from my home to work plus the additional trip to my home and from my work to pick up someone else. How does that reduce congestion?
If it's way cheaper than Uber/Lyft, I'd expect it to reduce the use of public transit and INCREASE road congestion.
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Why would you drive your robotaxi to work and then it drive back home on its own? Wouldn’t it just become a taxi near your work? Also, the only example I remember Elon giving is it would start taxi mode when you get home from work and end taxi mode when you wake up in the morning to go to work.
@@HypocritesExposd I never said anything about driving your own robotaxi to work. I was just trying to contrast the congestion caused by driving your own private car to work as opposed to taking a robotaxi to work. The difference being the extra congestion caused by the robotaxi coming to pick you up at home and then leaving from your workplace. Just saying that robotaxis will increase congestion on the roads. Robotaxis will not lower traffic congestion. their numbers will for sure be regulated in big cities or they will be a traffic disaster.
More people per car instead of 1 car per person. It gets used by various people throughout the day instead of all of their cars being on the road to take them.
I would love to see a sub $45K mid-size truck that is more conventional in styling, think Rivian.
Robo taxis won’t take vehicles off the road. The numbers of cars on the road is determined by the number of trips required and how many of those can be handled by the same vehicles. Unless you get people to share robo taxis the number of miles driven and traffic density will actually increase as robo taxis drive to pick up their next fairs. What will decline is the numbers of parking spaces required all over the country.
Why do you use the phrase "taking vehicles off the road"? If the so-far-hypothetical robotaxis rack up a lot of miles, that will reduce the total number of vehicles. But it won't reduce the number of vehicles on the road, since the robotaxis will presumably only be used for rides that someone would otherwise be doing themself. What robotaxis may be able to do is reduce the number of needed parking spaces. Only mass transit (or, to a lesser extent, ride sharing) can reduce the number of vehicles on the road.
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ryan, elon made the robotaxi promise back in 2018.
While in theory it may reduce the number of actual vehicles produced (maybe), this idea that it will actually reduce the number of cars on the road at any given time is dead wrong. Taxis drive upwards of 50% of their time empty. That’s why many large downtowns have Taxi stands (to reduce congestion). The most efficient use of available roadway capacity is to have the individuals who will be in the vehicle to only use the vehicle when they actually need it. While this increases the number of actual cars produced, as long as you have adequate storage (parking), there is 100% efficiency when actually using the road infrastructure.
Unlike other car companies that have other cars to market when they announce new cars, Tesla has 2. If Tesla doesn't have something rolling off the assembly lines by the end of the year, I'm not sure how many times Tesla can announce futures with no delivery date. Then again, delivery dates haven't meant much
"Elon announces" LOL - That gives about a 10% chance of it ever happening.
People need to chill. Let the man work...i dont care if his politics hurt your feelings or mine. it's moving us to the future. Let him cook.
Elon should just outright say that the 25k model is not possible. After extensive feasibility study, the 32k model is as cheap as we can make it; now stop bugging me about the 25k model.
Robotaxi, Model 2, Roadster
Mod 2 , New Mod Y not refreshed , Commercial Van ,New Pickup, not Cyber Truck
I didn't like the stalkless option but still purchased new M3 a few days ago. They did the free FSD transfer, that was the main reason. I do miss indicating the turning signals at times or click the wrong one, but it isn't as bad as long as you approach it with an open mind and just accept it. Many options are gone compared to my 2018 M3, again, it's a matter of accepting it. Never say never, I used to say I would never get this version, eating my own words. 2024 M3 is clearly better than the old one in many ways. One thing that is truly missing is a front bumper camera, with no ultrasonic sensors, it's limiting in some use cases (garage). One caveat, if you have issues with thumbs, tremor, arthritis, etc. you have a bit of hard time hitting those turn signals, etc. Since I drive close to 100% on FSD, it's not as critical, but something to note. Here in Utah turn signals seem to be optional for most Utahns, but a friend of mine did get a ticket for a "late" turn signal. Go figure. The weirdest thing for me, indicating the right signal is natural, do it automatically, but I often have to think for a second when clicking the left one (bottom button). Guess, I'll just make right turns only from now on. Or re-train my own neural net to get used to it. Time will tell.
Bring back stalks, a physical drive selector, and a dash or heads up display if you want any chance at my (and most people's) money. Otherwise, your stock value is capped. 🤷🏻
optimus will end us all
That's how you get terminators.
Robodogs will need to be hacked to protect us
When will powerwall have V2H??!! GM, Ford, Hyundai, and now Rivian have it! How is it thay they dont use the car battery pack to expand their powerwall?!!
Zoox Is Already Out With Driverless Vehicles. They Have UA-cam Videos Demonstrating How There Robo Taxi Works. I’m Super Impressed And Can’t Wait Until Teslas Finally Implement There Version Of Driverless Vehicles/Robo Taxi.
I heard the Roadster will support invisibility and teleportation!!! LOL -- Look, that vehicle is NEVER going to ship. They will have to give the money back to people who put down deposits. And lets say it does ship in two more years ... we'll have been looking at that vehicle for 10 years then ... who wants something that old looking???
Tesla seriously needs to focus on more affordable options.
I'll be upgrading my Model X to a new Model X when it has 800v/48v, steer by wire and AI5.
There is ONE BIG reason no roadster! A lot of people EARNED free ones thru the referral program and Tesla doesn’t want to pay them or give them their cars at 200k$+ pop. That’s pretty disgusting to screw people over who pimped the brand
When Hertz when bankrupt, I thought Tesla should had acquired them. Why? Need a place for there robotaxi to go 24/7 for storage, maintenance, and rent for those not sold on autonomy or like to drive.
there is no roadster schedule, it will come out when the tech is there
ride share is a big risk, there are only that many people who are willing to, at least today
I'd rather have my EV support V2H while it's sitting in the garage or driveway
Aftermarket stalks are available for a reasonable price.
How ridiculous is it that we have to go to aftermarket to get something that should have came with the car !
@@preeyakumari-i2qI really don’t think they are needed in the US, roads are generally straight with 90 degree stops. But you have a good argument for Eurozone, more signaling on curvy roads.
It would be wonderful if Tesla or another Musk enterprise would enter the field of mobility devices and prosthetics. What about something too advanced to be called a "Wheelchair," possibly combined with Optimus technology and controlled via Neuralink implant.
I feel the Roadster will not be delivered for a whole because Elon owes free Roadsters to quite a few people. If I'm not mistaken, there was an incentive offered to people who used reached a certain number of referral codes. Simply putting that out there. No evidence whatsoever.
How would the robotaxi be revolutionary? Waymo is already doing it.
High demand ruined the range on the CT. They will certainly bouble the range in the second gen. They need a luxury sub model of the s/x with massage seats and other higher end option that other chinese cars come with. Also the X need to come down to ~65k cause kia ev9 is now competing with it.
I predict robo taxis will be a huge disappointment just a lawsuit magnet, not just for Tesla but for all companies. I would say the billions spend on those projects will never be made back ever. Tesla has exact data on how many FSD have been sold and how much it's used and they don't publish that data or even share it with inventors for a reason.
Can’t go wrong with Elon .
While I agree robotaxi will probably be a disappointment initially, eventually car companies will figure out FSD. Whether it's Tesla or some other company, cars will be driving themselves a lot sooner than people think, especially considering they already are, and not just Tesla.
Money down a rat hole !
When did Tesla confirm the code name "Juniper"?
I like Elon’s forwarding looking innovation, but based on Elon time, and past promises of FSD and other vehicles, most announcements are late, with exception to Model Y, which I believe came in earlier than promised.