Ryan, bro, you outdid yourself on this video. Everything I wanted to know but was uncertain I could ask anyone! Only CAVEAT I have is BUYER BEWARE on those companies that ask you to allow them to track your driving on an app to SAVE MONEY! YOUR mileage may vary and it could make your new INSURANCE COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE! Another is that they may also SELL what they find to other Insurance Companies!
Just don’t drive one until you’re ready to buy, It really seals the deal. My dad, mom, and sister all have teslas and I drove my sisters after looking at them for years and I pulled the plug 10 months later.
@@SpeedsterawesomeYou're absolutely correct. I was on the fence Even after doing a demo drive last fall. I wasn't sure how they'd be able to handle road tripping and for every one post saying it's doable in an EV, you can find 15 saying it's impossible. What I didn't realize is that Tesla also does extended demos. The week after I took my demo drive, I took a MYLR home for the weekend on an extended demo. I ordered one a few days later.
I bought mine 3 weeks ago. What are your favorite things about it and what complaints do you have if any? I'll start. My number 1 feature is the way it accelerates and the regenerative breaking which reduces the number of times I have to use the brakes. I also love the walk away lock feature. The things I don't like: The suspension could be softer, and the software has a bit of jank for example, the podcast app often does not resume the episode and restarts or failed to load altogether. and in apple music, the smart playlists fail to populate. Overall, it's a dream car and I love driving it.
Personally, I have Tesla solar panels and a power wall. I have my car scheduled for start of charging at 8am in the morning charging off the solar panels. Basically, I'm driving for free by charging from the sun.
Autopark is my favorite feature of FSD - so good it's fun to sit back and enjoy the magic. 'Full Self Driving' on the highway tho becomes 'Robot Driver' - behaving strangely to you and other drivers because it's maintaining the speed / following distance parameters you've set but it doesn't observe how the drivers around you are responding to each other to anticipate what's next, and lane changes are always abrupt. FSD as it is now behaves 'unnaturally' and like a Roomba among cats can make the cats jumpy. Hopefully more & more data will get FSD overall to where Autopark is now.
Just thumb the wheel dial up past the max speed limit 5 or 10mph and it’s a lot less awkward in traffic on the highway. On the highway in busy cities I still just take over, due to all the crazy human drivers.
People need to know that Leasing a TESLA ends up with very VERY stingy charges, just did my pre inspection and they are billing me with other $3k in nonsense charges...sucks!
I’ve got both the 110 charger and the 240 wall charger. I’ve owned my TESLA. Model Y standard range 3 months now and that has been more then adequate for our use. When charging on 110 volts. Last month Tesla offered to increase our max EPA. range to 360 miles for only $1600 ( done over air so no visit to dealership is required) We decided we won’t ever need it. Our current 260 mile range always has met our needs. Even trips up North to visit family to date we haven’t needed to supercharge our car. ( and we only charge to 80% )
I finally pulled the trigger on a, new to me, 2022 Model S Long Range Tesla. Love, love love it!! This one has none of the panel gaps issues everybody frets about, Looks and drives like new, AMAZING car!! Thanks Elon🥳!
If you're in Australia, it's entirely different to this video. We get a State rebate, depending on what State you live, but here in WA, there is a $3500 rebate which I got in my bank account within 3 weeks. We also get a federal rebate of 4.2c per kilometre travelled. My most recent rebate refund was $139, and it cost me a total of $133 to charge my Tesla Model 3 at home (Tesla wall charger on an EV plan through Synergy at 8c per kWh at Super-offpeak) over the first month alone. The government in Australia is paying me to drive an EV. Other than that, it is the best car I have ever driven, or owned. The software alone is at least 5 years ahead of the competition like BYD. Worth every cent.
I'm in Victoria and we don't have rebate but I live next to a shopping center which offer free charging via Charfox. Picking up my MY RWD on 18/6 and I've already bought the Type 2 cable already. 😊
The thing that disappoints me about using the Tesla nav system for road trips is when you arrive in the city you are traveling to. At the end of a road trip, Tesla always has you pulling in to the destination city with a very low state of charge. If that city doesn’t have superchargers, you end up with a bit of a problem driving around in the city you just drove to
@@tribalypredisposedI'm up in Mesa and with State Farm, I got a quote from them saying $114 a month when my Model Y shows up. I'm interested to hear the Tesla rates when the time comes.
@@tribalypredisposed I have progressive after switching from Am Fam….i also have my home and three other cars with Progressive and they were $100 less per month than Am Fam.
Thanks for the great presentation. I had my heart set on a Model Y. I live in New York State not too far from NYC. I pay $90 a month for insurance on my relatively new 32k Mazda for perspective. I shopped around for insurance and Erie came in at $380 per month! It may be that once affordable Tesla insurance plans are quickly no longer becoming affordable due to incredibly expensive repair costs and long wait times. I Landed on a KIA EV6 with insurance costs of $105 per month. No brainer for me. Makes me wonder if Tesla hasn't shot itself in the foot with its parts and repair service approach and infrastructure. You'd have to give me a Tesla for free for me to pay that much of a mark up in insurance. Not planning on moving to Texas anytime soon.
Elon. design his Tesla for Quick assembly. therefore most parts I believed glue to the total assemble Inorder to repair a particular assembly The mechanic will have to completely disassembled This Great for Elon brain but no good for Buyers.
My mobile charger with a 120V at home gets 2% of my 2023 M3 RWD battery per hour, which is more like 5 miles of range, compared to the rated 3 per hour. So charging overnight from like 9pm-6am would give me about 45 miles which is fine for even a 40-50 miles daily drive.
Thanks for the valuable information. I am buying a Model Y long-range with 19" Wheel, and I drive for 100-120 miles daily. I hope I made the right choice.
@tyyw10 or just charge at stations, which is what I am planning to do. I live in an apartment, but they don't have charging stations, so I'm going to use public stations. Pay for supercharging and wait about 20 mins to get to 80%. I'll be using this car primarily ridesharing/work. My daily car will be the ioniq 5.
@@quantrellh.4939 you could but having to spend 20 mins a day at a charger would kind of suck in the long run I’d rather be able to go home and plug in and not worry about it.
For charging, if you're able, use your solar panels to off-set the cost and charge only during the day. Charge at 22 amps to save wear on your wires, and you'll save big with the solar panels in conjunction with city power.
Florida has a program, called FP Evolution, and it is a 31-dollar flat fee for unlimited charges during off-peak hours you can charge as many cars as you want but you have to use the charges that they install as part of the program if you paid for installation is 31 dollars or 38 if they install for you
Some of the newer Tesla superchargers have increased the max charging rate. From 250 to 323 . I believe the intention is to continue that increase. Second. My home charging rate is 14.57 /kwh with no increase for peak use. That’s not the lowest rate . The lowest rate is owning your own solar panels. But to make that viable you’d also need a back up battery. Right now the best bargain in home back up batteries is a TRSLA VERSION 3 with a built in inverter. ( an inverter converts the solar panels DC electric to the A/C your house uses)
I was going to get a model 3 performance however the whole order process and waiting killed it for me .. if I wanna buy a car I want to bring it home same day , not 2 months later
FSD has been pretty awesome, just does some things that I wouldn't do as a driver. I used it on about a 100 mile road trip. Merged in front of a semi with less than a car length worth of space, little disconcerting. Other than that, on city streets it handled very well. Maintained good distance behind other cars, used turn signals, didn't hit the accelerator too hard to start, and did a fantastic job at maintaining lanes.
Honestly, as far as getting into a used Tesla, insurance and tires make me most nervous. I have a strong feeling that my increase in insurance cost is going to outweigh my fuel savings. This is another reason I want Tesla to make that $25k car... they should outfit it with reasonably sized 16" wheels with a very common sized tire with many cheap options. Plus they should be much cheaper to insure.
The best deal on used Tesla’s is Hertz They are currently selling 2 year old cars for as low as $16,000( after the $4000 used EV. Credit) That includes the balance of the 8 year 150,000 warranty.
The "gas savings" was super frustrating for me since I have only owned a car like two years of my life and I am 57, have not had a car since 2008 right now...my bicycles do not have gas engines. Would love it if Tesla let you just uncheck a box so you could see the real price.
I also found it really annoying, because I'm going from a smaller electric car to a Model Y. So I'm not saving any freaking gas. I ended up just going into that customizer and setting the gas cost to one cent so it put in $0 of gas savings but still included the tax credit.
It’s always been there. It is a slider and by default it’s in “potential savings.” Just slide it over to the other side and it’ll show you the real price.
I would add a few to the list of the things: - Substantial depreciation of the vehicle. I've never owned a car that had its value drop as substantially as my Model Y in year 1. (Pandemic rebound, EV sales decline, Tesla price drops) - Generally refined features on other cars are not as refined on Teslas. In particular, rain-sensing windshield wipers, parking assist features, adaptive cruise control (random braking). - With respect to the "savings" comparison on Tesla's site (like you, I do not like that--marketing fluff), you rightfully brought up the tax credit. Another thing Tesla fails to show is the increase in insurance tied directly to their vehicles (and EVs in general). Likewise, there are some states that tax differently for EVs. Between those and other intangibles (cost of energy while traveling versus energy at home), I submit that the cost is higher from that point of view. Maintenance, however, would likely be lower than a traditional engine.
I wonder if the higher insurance premiums and taxes and other EV-specific charges are offset by the savings in oil changes, brake replacements, spark plug replacements and other common ICE maintenance requirements
@@Peter-wp5vb I think that would largely depend on the distance driven. In my case, no. I've paid $0 out of pocket for oil, brake, spark plugs for many years. Some of this was tied to the fact that I had two cars and would balance mileage across them. The other was that I traveled quite a bit which kept the price down. I also had brands that included maintenance over the first four years. (I don't know that they offer that now.) Insurance (lightly influenced by miles driven) was required throughout...and often with increases.
@@jbhorner I’m more talking about large scale trends, not personal one-offs. If we include one-offs, I can bring in how many companies offer free EV charging. There are many variables
@@Peter-wp5vb Right. And that is why their "calculator" to show savings is really nothing more than a marketing tool; it cherry-picks information and presents it as empirical. It's good it can be switched off, but when it's switched on it really isn't useful. My original point of insurance was that, like the "fuel savings," it is a monthly (or amortized monthly if premiums are paid every six months) cost. In fact, their estimated fuel savings on a base Model 3 is close to what my monthly amortized insurance increase amounted to over my prior car...which was also a late model electric vehicle.
This was a very helpful overview. I’m in the market and have watched a few videos like this and this is definitely a great overview. Really appreciate it!
We have 4 EV's for our family. We have one hard wired Tesla Charger. One Clipper Creek Dual charger and we use the mobile 110 charger. It works well for our fully EV family at home.
I have multiple examples on my UA-cam of me getting 330 to 340 mi of range out of my 2022 Tesla Model 3 performance. How? I put 19 in aerodynamic Wheels, and low rolling resistance tires 😎
@@RAH_Holdingsyeah you are lucky if you get 200. People focus only on their personal experiences. Mine looses battery just being parked because of the heat and the cabin overheat protection runs most of the day. It did make a little difference once I got my front windows tints to match the back ones. It’s only like $150. I live in Miami and work in Broward if I only had office I would charge at 80% and get back home at like 30% meaning I have to charge because it’s not enough for the next one. Many times I have to charge at 100 if I’m making client stops. The cool-aid sold about the miles didn’t taste very good once I got mine.
@ideedeevg ....if you don't have a garage, I tell people to think twice before jumping. My experience has been pretty fantastic. Even before I worked remotely and drove to an office daily, I had zero issues.
@@ferrynpalmer3875 there is a large group of people that don’t have garages. My house doesn’t have one and I have seen many of the new wave of EV owners that live in apartments. So then goes to prove that EV’s are a lifestyle as of now and not suitable for everyone. Even before I had my home charger set up I was spending $16-$21 daily on super charger. That equalled to the Chevy Silverado I had in gas. UA-cam channels that sell the Tesla/ EV dream need to disclose all the cons not just the pros because it’s very biased. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love my car but I wish I had more non biased information from UA-camrs when I was doing my research to make my decision.
EV’s are not for everyone. If you are willing to pay attention to details they can be wonderful cars. If you just want to get in and drive not so much.
Yeah. This was very helpful. Thanks. I live in Canada. Have to check my insurance. My home electricity is 6.8/ kWh. and registration $100/y. Our rebate in Alberta is only $5,000 CND.
Another thing you should mention in the insurance section, Tesla financing does not offer GAP insurance, but you can get GAP insurance through your auto insurance policy with a few vendors
Ryan, if you make a video that talks about price / financing of teslas again, setting the annual mileage on the gas savings page to 1 will basically 0 out the gas savings but still allow you to show how the tax credit impacts things!
Love your work Ryan! regarding the cyber truck, FSD is rumored to be out next month and auto pilot seems to have very limited features. I have not noticed Lane departure. Correction, but it does have basic cruise control. It’s very confusing to engage for the new driver, you have to press and hold the right scroll wheel. I’m sure it’s documented somewhere, but I did not find it.… A friend told me.
I love my model Y, I came from a Ram 1500 Longhorn and was paying about $200 per week for my weekly comute, now I am paying about $20 per week for the same comute charging at home.
Definitely getting the level 2 home charger once I get my Tesla. I might even install an extra NEMA 14-50 just as a spare for my friends who already own a Tesla can top-off, when they come over.
As a former tesla model 3 owner I went back to ICE vehicle for multiple reasons. As much as I liked my tesla for the cool tech, there was a lot of downsides to it as well. One being the range isn’t as advertised at all, and after only 2 years of owning the car I lost over 20 km of range. Made me wonder if I kept the car for a couple of more years how much faster the battery would be degrading. That alone was scary to me. Other thing I didn’t like is that my phone randomly stopped working as a key and I was lucky because I had physical key cards with me, but definitely could of left me stranded if I didn’t have the physical cards. Also the car was a magnet for rock chips sadly, as well as curb rash!! Lastly, I just hated waiting for the car to charge for hours instead of just spending less than 5 min at a gas station… still appreciate this video as it really describes everything very well. Teslas are cool cars for sure, but I don’t think I would ever consider going back to one until the range will be at least 600-700 km which is what my ICE vehicle gives me!
@@ALazyImmigrantInUS I have iphone 15 pro max and before that had 14 pro. So definitely wasn’t my phone I would say, just random glitching at times. The wireless chargers worked really well in a Tesla I have to admit.
High registration fees are what is keeping me from purchasing an EV. NJ is charging $1000 plus regular yearly registration fees for 4 years up front. So about $1400 to the state for 4 years because you are not purchasing fuel, and paying the gas tax. So on principle, I guess I'll stick with my Prius since my registration for that is $60 a year
Im glad i rented one instead of buying one. It has some cool features but all the battery issues make it not worth it especially if you dont have a home charger. Im returning it asap smh
I bought a model 3 over 2 months ago and I’m still trying to figure out adjusting the A/C, the music (both from my iPhone and radio), the turning indicator small buttons, why sometimes it rolls all the windows down an inch. Why sometimes it locks the doors and other times it doesn’t. The speech control is the worst, wish it had a bigger vocabulary to understand variety of commands. Why does it keep changing my preferred seat and steering wheel settings. My son-in-law just got a Chevy Bolt, and is basically a car with an electric motor. Where the model 3 is a poorly designed computer attached to an electric motor. I wouldn’t recommend a Tesla, but I’ll probably keep mine, just Incase some day I’ll figure it all out. 😂
I live in Rural NW OKlahoma. We recently bought our new Model Y LR AWD. Probably the third Tesla in the county. We bought at the end of the first quarter. The lowest price since. Driving on the interstate with the autopilot is great. On the federal highways and state highways not so great. We recently took a trip to Southwest Colorado. The trip was around 750 miles. The vehicle Map speed limits were wrong 80% of the time. Always 10 MPH under the speed limit. I'm not counting speed changes passing through towns on the way. The Autopilot is useless in that scenario.
I’ve had my model Y for 11 months now. The range promised is not accurate, at all. This was a major blow to my new-car enthusiasm. But the main thing that bothers me about range is that I’m limited to only using 60% of the battery daily. I can only charge up to 80%, and when it goes down to 20%, many features don’t work. On top of that, I have to drive like a grandma, avoid aggressive, acceleration, be conservative with the AC, and anything else that drains the battery quickly.
@@icare7151 While I do not disagree that Tesla is overrated (and I have one), the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I've seen several videos that point out Rivian's flaws. The three things I'd worry about with Rivian are vehicle repairs after an accident, availability of service to the vehicle (I think Ryan has a video where that is mentioned), and general reliability (again, I think Ryan has a video on that as well).
Like any car, dive it like you stole it and you get poor mileage. The testing is done closer to 60mph not 70mph or 80mph like so many folks drive them. The largest efficient I see driving my BEV is weather. Above 80F or below 45F and mileage drops at least 10%.
I’m looking into buying a model Y performance 2024. Should I wait for the juniper next year? I know it’s gonna be more than the current model but the ventilated seats seams quite the luxury add on. My current Audi has it and it’s amazing. What’s your suggestion should I buy now or wait? It’s killing me!
How is your experience with the leather seats in the summer? I currently own an Audi with ventilated seats and it’s a game changer in the heat. But I also live in the rainy west coast so it’s only sunny for a few months of the yesr
Ryan Shaw. I have 10. owners of Tesla Model Y 2021. Their 4 Years of basic warranty soon expires Do you recommend we buy the Tesla 2 Years Warranty What does this extended warranty covers --- Model Y cost $ 2000,00. Do you think Elon should compensate us He have lately reduced the Model Y prices three Times We are the fool to purchased at high tag prices We appreciate your reply
Until now nobody can answer the question I've had for 5 and a half years. While you're driving in the city you do not want the lane to change. You want to be in control of your lane change not the car do it for you and the car the Tesla Model 3 constantly making a lane change and I have to turn it off in the software it cannot be done because I cannot find it anywhere. I know you are going to tell me you can do it by turning the left signal to the right. But there's only does it for one time and the next 200 ft it goes back to change lane again and you have to do it again and again throughout your travel in the city. It must have a function in the software in the city in the car who you could turn off lane change in the city completely. I don't ever want the car to change lane I wanted to do the change lane when I went to myself so it have to be away.
93% of the EPA estimated range at 70mph for that model 3 is very impressive IMO. Presumably, there's little regen happening at 70mph so it sounds like you could easily go further?
I've always hated Tesla's configuration page being defaulted to prices based on potential savings. In my opinion that's being very deceptive about the price you are paying for the car. It's a car salesman sleeze move.
Ryan, any chance you have past pricing to compare with the rates on the site? I'm considering upgrading to a Y but don't want to be paying an increased price point. Thank you.
The FSD cost being reduced in price and being made flexible is due to the change in business model required my the philosophy change going into FSD 12. Now, with AI, the way to make FSD more efficient and capable is to accumulate as large and broad a dataset/corpus as possible. Although passive gathering is possible, FSD provides intervention data and feedback which can also help training. I expect, especially as Tesla licenses FSD 12+ to other carmakers, that the recurring cost of FSD should go DOWN to encourage further corpus accumulation/enhancement to allow for AI to have more to work with, especially as geometries will be varied due to other vehicle sources.
I'm doing only the mobile charger for now. My wife drives 14 miles a day and can charge the car 14 hours a night or 42 miles. She can charge at work and I can charge at my job for free if she let's me drive it. 😂
I'm not sure about the configuration options in the US but in Canada you cannot remove the gas savings or add the federal taxes to see the true cost. Rude on Tesla imo.
It isn’t “the EPA’s promised range”. The EPA does NOT test any car. Tesla tests their own cars and reports the data to the EPA, so it’s Tesla’s promised range.
I don't believe that Tesla builds the car specifically for you, but rather creates the cars based on data and then assigns you a car depending on your configuration.
Yeah depending on your commute. Most people charge once a week and that really isn't that big of an issue. At home charging on a 12v charger will still get you some range durning the week if you need it.
Ryan your videos gave me all the information and confidence to take delivery on a model Y in May, and change to an EV lifestyle. Thank you and keep up the great videos
Teslas insurance rate is good if you drive like a little old lady, I didn’t buy a Tesla to worry about driving slow. Progressive cost 1/2 of Tesla insurance. I didn’t like having my driving being tracked either. My wife had a score of 92, mine was 62, lol, so if u drive slow and like watching your score, Tesla insurance is for you! Not for me! I do love Tesla, I own 3🚗
Your Tesla vehicle records everything you do and uploads it to Tesla HQ, which determines your next month's insurance bill. Tesla is a data mining company that also sells cars.
Considering a used private seller Tesla as in Nevada there’s no sales taxes vs a dealer. I don’t qualify for the $4K tax credit as my income is higher than the threshold but do qualify for the $7500 on a new Tesla. 😊
What you really need to know is the following: 1) Insurance is much higher for EV than gasoline cars. Why I asked the insurance company? Because the repairs are higher was the answer. 2) You will not get the advertised miles. I bought a Model Y whose range supposedly is 274 miles. I don't get that. On average about 200 miles forcing me to charge the car daily. Lucky I was able to install the charger and the cables myself saving the $1400 that the electrician wanted for the installation. 3) The repairs are indeed expensive. During a flood I drive my car less than 300 yards from my house to a neighbor's house. The water was about 2 feet high. The right rock panel came off. Tesla wanted $419 for the repair and neglected my claim that most likely the rock panel was improperly installed. My daughter had a Model 3 less than a month old that went through the follow too. Tesla wanted a whooping S919 for a flood inspection , just the inspection no repairs. We refused and dealt with the insurance company who ended up declaring the car total loss. These cars are still in the experimental phase. I wish we wouldn't have bought Teslas.😡😡😡
Ryan, bro, you outdid yourself on this video. Everything I wanted to know but was uncertain I could ask anyone!
Only CAVEAT I have is BUYER BEWARE on those companies that ask you to allow them to track your driving on
an app to SAVE MONEY! YOUR mileage may vary and it could make your new INSURANCE COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE!
Another is that they may also SELL what they find to other Insurance Companies!
I gotta be honest, I have no business buying a car but I want a tesla one day
Just don’t drive one until you’re ready to buy, It really seals the deal. My dad, mom, and sister all have teslas and I drove my sisters after looking at them for years and I pulled the plug 10 months later.
i dont know why im watching this. i bought a model 3 exactly 2 months ago lol
Just get one. Its honestly the last car you will ever buy.
Buy a 2023 M3. Best Tesla out there.
@@SpeedsterawesomeYou're absolutely correct. I was on the fence Even after doing a demo drive last fall. I wasn't sure how they'd be able to handle road tripping and for every one post saying it's doable in an EV, you can find 15 saying it's impossible.
What I didn't realize is that Tesla also does extended demos. The week after I took my demo drive, I took a MYLR home for the weekend on an extended demo. I ordered one a few days later.
I just bought a Tesla a few months ago and I still watched this. Just because I like ya
No diddy
I bought mine 3 weeks ago. What are your favorite things about it and what complaints do you have if any? I'll start. My number 1 feature is the way it accelerates and the regenerative breaking which reduces the number of times I have to use the brakes. I also love the walk away lock feature. The things I don't like: The suspension could be softer, and the software has a bit of jank for example, the podcast app often does not resume the episode and restarts or failed to load altogether. and in apple music, the smart playlists fail to populate. Overall, it's a dream car and I love driving it.
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ME! i started watching him BECAUSE i was getting one
I got mine 2 weeks ago
Personally, I have Tesla solar panels and a power wall. I have my car scheduled for start of charging at 8am in the morning charging off the solar panels. Basically, I'm driving for free by charging from the sun.
Autopark is my favorite feature of FSD - so good it's fun to sit back and enjoy the magic. 'Full Self Driving' on the highway tho becomes 'Robot Driver' - behaving strangely to you and other drivers because it's maintaining the speed / following distance parameters you've set but it doesn't observe how the drivers around you are responding to each other to anticipate what's next, and lane changes are always abrupt. FSD as it is now behaves 'unnaturally' and like a Roomba among cats can make the cats jumpy. Hopefully more & more data will get FSD overall to where Autopark is now.
Just thumb the wheel dial up past the max speed limit 5 or 10mph and it’s a lot less awkward in traffic on the highway. On the highway in busy cities I still just take over, due to all the crazy human drivers.
Wait for the upgrades in 2025….smart park where u can exit and vehicle will park itself.
People need to know that Leasing a TESLA ends up with very VERY stingy charges, just did my pre inspection and they are billing me with other $3k in nonsense charges...sucks!
Pre inspection? By who for what?
@@kushape1023 End of lease inspection maybe?
What nonsense charges?
Details on the charges??
I’ve got both the 110 charger and the 240 wall charger. I’ve owned my TESLA. Model Y standard range 3 months now and that has been more then adequate for our use. When charging on 110 volts.
Last month Tesla offered to increase our max EPA. range to 360 miles for only $1600 ( done over air so no visit to dealership is required)
We decided we won’t ever need it. Our current 260 mile range always has met our needs.
Even trips up North to visit family to date we haven’t needed to supercharge our car. ( and we only charge to 80% )
THIS VIDEO KILLLED IT .i would think of a question and you answered it not long after .thanks man.
I finally pulled the trigger on a, new to me, 2022 Model S Long Range Tesla. Love, love love it!! This one has none of the panel gaps issues everybody frets about, Looks and drives like new, AMAZING car!! Thanks Elon🥳!
What’s the panel gap
Another thing about estimated gas savings is that it assumes you're coming from an ICE car and not upgrading from another EV or PHEV
very true. but it is all about perception and sales.
You could give many content creators a masterclass in presentation organization and information density 👍👊
If you're in Australia, it's entirely different to this video. We get a State rebate, depending on what State you live, but here in WA, there is a $3500 rebate which I got in my bank account within 3 weeks. We also get a federal rebate of 4.2c per kilometre travelled. My most recent rebate refund was $139, and it cost me a total of $133 to charge my Tesla Model 3 at home (Tesla wall charger on an EV plan through Synergy at 8c per kWh at Super-offpeak) over the first month alone. The government in Australia is paying me to drive an EV. Other than that, it is the best car I have ever driven, or owned. The software alone is at least 5 years ahead of the competition like BYD. Worth every cent.
I'm in Victoria and we don't have rebate but I live next to a shopping center which offer free charging via Charfox. Picking up my MY RWD on 18/6 and I've already bought the Type 2 cable already. 😊
What 4.52c federal rebate are you talking about? Never heard of it and no google result..
@TechnoMonkeyFarm It's actually 4.2 cent/km via novated lease / Fringe Benefit Tax. You can do a search for the above words.
@@charliequach6399 I corrected that on another channel, unfortunately not this one. Apologies.
QLD and WA have a cheaper drive away price due to state rebate which Is awesome! but sucks because I live in Nsw 😂
The thing that disappoints me about using the Tesla nav system for road trips is when you arrive in the city you are traveling to. At the end of a road trip, Tesla always has you pulling in to the destination city with a very low state of charge. If that city doesn’t have superchargers, you end up with a bit of a problem driving around in the city you just drove to
I pay $6.76 for 220 miles in AZ, registration $73/yr and insurance $93/ month. Free use of HOV lanes
I have a Y on order and live in Tucson, can I ask who you have your insurance with? I was going to go with Tesla but open to other options..
@@tribalypredisposedperhaps try a free online broker to get quotes on full cover on the Tesla
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High occupancy vehicle
@@tribalypredisposedI'm up in Mesa and with State Farm, I got a quote from them saying $114 a month when my Model Y shows up. I'm interested to hear the Tesla rates when the time comes.
@@tribalypredisposed I have progressive after switching from Am Fam….i also have my home and three other cars with Progressive and they were $100 less per month than Am Fam.
Thanks for the great presentation. I had my heart set on a Model Y. I live in New York State not too far from NYC. I pay $90 a month for insurance on my relatively new 32k Mazda for perspective. I shopped around for insurance and Erie came in at $380 per month! It may be that once affordable Tesla insurance plans are quickly no longer becoming affordable due to incredibly expensive repair costs and long wait times. I Landed on a KIA EV6 with insurance costs of $105 per month. No brainer for me. Makes me wonder if Tesla hasn't shot itself in the foot with its parts and repair service approach and infrastructure. You'd have to give me a Tesla for free for me to pay that much of a mark up in insurance. Not planning on moving to Texas anytime soon.
Elon. design his Tesla for Quick assembly. therefore most parts I believed glue to the total assemble Inorder to repair a particular assembly The mechanic will have to completely disassembled This Great for Elon brain but no good for Buyers.
My mobile charger with a 120V at home gets 2% of my 2023 M3 RWD battery per hour, which is more like 5 miles of range, compared to the rated 3 per hour. So charging overnight from like 9pm-6am would give me about 45 miles which is fine for even a 40-50 miles daily drive.
Thanks for the valuable information. I am buying a Model Y long-range with 19" Wheel, and I drive for 100-120 miles daily. I hope I made the right choice.
It won’t be bad if you have home charging with level 2 charging level 1 will be near impossible.
@tyyw10 or just charge at stations, which is what I am planning to do. I live in an apartment, but they don't have charging stations, so I'm going to use public stations. Pay for supercharging and wait about 20 mins to get to 80%.
I'll be using this car primarily ridesharing/work. My daily car will be the ioniq 5.
@@quantrellh.4939 you could but having to spend 20 mins a day at a charger would kind of suck in the long run I’d rather be able to go home and plug in and not worry about it.
How do you like it so far, I commute 120 miles round trip a day also
in the new market for a YLR. Been watching your videos for years now. Thanks for the great advice!
For charging, if you're able, use your solar panels to off-set the cost and charge only during the day. Charge at 22 amps to save wear on your wires, and you'll save big with the solar panels in conjunction with city power.
Florida has a program, called FP Evolution, and it is a 31-dollar flat fee for unlimited charges during off-peak hours you can charge as many cars as you want but you have to use the charges that they install as part of the program if you paid for installation is 31 dollars or 38 if they install for you
Me with three IVs this sounds amazing cheap. The problem is you guys pay an arm and a leg for Insurance
Some of the newer Tesla superchargers have increased the max charging rate. From 250 to 323 . I believe the intention is to continue that increase.
Second. My home charging rate is 14.57 /kwh with no increase for peak use. That’s not the lowest rate . The lowest rate is owning your own solar panels. But to make that viable you’d also need a back up battery.
Right now the best bargain in home back up batteries is a TRSLA VERSION 3 with a built in inverter. ( an inverter converts the solar panels DC electric to the A/C your house uses)
That splitter idea for a level 2 charger at home is great! Makes me a lot more confident buying that then having to hire an electrician for a rental.
I was going to get a model 3 performance however the whole order process and waiting killed it for me .. if I wanna buy a car I want to bring it home same day , not 2 months later
Buy a used one, almost zero waiting
Order time seem to be super quick right now. At least it was my case.
FSD has been pretty awesome, just does some things that I wouldn't do as a driver. I used it on about a 100 mile road trip. Merged in front of a semi with less than a car length worth of space, little disconcerting. Other than that, on city streets it handled very well. Maintained good distance behind other cars, used turn signals, didn't hit the accelerator too hard to start, and did a fantastic job at maintaining lanes.
For every new owner of a Tesla..gotta watch this video 👌🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Honestly, as far as getting into a used Tesla, insurance and tires make me most nervous. I have a strong feeling that my increase in insurance cost is going to outweigh my fuel savings. This is another reason I want Tesla to make that $25k car... they should outfit it with reasonably sized 16" wheels with a very common sized tire with many cheap options. Plus they should be much cheaper to insure.
The best deal on used Tesla’s is Hertz They are currently selling 2 year old cars for as low as $16,000( after the $4000 used EV. Credit)
That includes the balance of the 8 year 150,000 warranty.
nice to see real gasoline vs electric pricing in California; also ranges of Teslas at typ 70mph instead on 60mph.
It is one of those videos that engaged me all the 21 minutes.
The "gas savings" was super frustrating for me since I have only owned a car like two years of my life and I am 57, have not had a car since 2008 right now...my bicycles do not have gas engines. Would love it if Tesla let you just uncheck a box so you could see the real price.
I also found it really annoying, because I'm going from a smaller electric car to a Model Y. So I'm not saving any freaking gas. I ended up just going into that customizer and setting the gas cost to one cent so it put in $0 of gas savings but still included the tax credit.
@@darthsirrius I failed to find that customizer…
It’s always been there. It is a slider and by default it’s in “potential savings.” Just slide it over to the other side and it’ll show you the real price.
I would add a few to the list of the things:
- Substantial depreciation of the vehicle. I've never owned a car that had its value drop as substantially as my Model Y in year 1. (Pandemic rebound, EV sales decline, Tesla price drops)
- Generally refined features on other cars are not as refined on Teslas. In particular, rain-sensing windshield wipers, parking assist features, adaptive cruise control (random braking).
- With respect to the "savings" comparison on Tesla's site (like you, I do not like that--marketing fluff), you rightfully brought up the tax credit. Another thing Tesla fails to show is the increase in insurance tied directly to their vehicles (and EVs in general). Likewise, there are some states that tax differently for EVs. Between those and other intangibles (cost of energy while traveling versus energy at home), I submit that the cost is higher from that point of view. Maintenance, however, would likely be lower than a traditional engine.
I wonder if the higher insurance premiums and taxes and other EV-specific charges are offset by the savings in oil changes, brake replacements, spark plug replacements and other common ICE maintenance requirements
@@Peter-wp5vb I think that would largely depend on the distance driven. In my case, no. I've paid $0 out of pocket for oil, brake, spark plugs for many years. Some of this was tied to the fact that I had two cars and would balance mileage across them. The other was that I traveled quite a bit which kept the price down. I also had brands that included maintenance over the first four years. (I don't know that they offer that now.) Insurance (lightly influenced by miles driven) was required throughout...and often with increases.
@@jbhorner I’m more talking about large scale trends, not personal one-offs. If we include one-offs, I can bring in how many companies offer free EV charging. There are many variables
@@Peter-wp5vb Right. And that is why their "calculator" to show savings is really nothing more than a marketing tool; it cherry-picks information and presents it as empirical. It's good it can be switched off, but when it's switched on it really isn't useful. My original point of insurance was that, like the "fuel savings," it is a monthly (or amortized monthly if premiums are paid every six months) cost. In fact, their estimated fuel savings on a base Model 3 is close to what my monthly amortized insurance increase amounted to over my prior car...which was also a late model electric vehicle.
This was a very helpful overview. I’m in the market and have watched a few videos like this and this is definitely a great overview. Really appreciate it!
We have 4 EV's for our family. We have one hard wired Tesla Charger. One Clipper Creek Dual charger and we use the mobile 110 charger. It works well for our fully EV family at home.
Pick ours up tomorrow. Fully loaded, all after market. Besides the design look, the functinoality is the same as the upcoming Juniper.
I usually get 5mph on Level 1 charging. Suits my needs perfectly.
I have multiple examples on my UA-cam of me getting 330 to 340 mi of range out of my 2022 Tesla Model 3 performance. How? I put 19 in aerodynamic Wheels, and low rolling resistance tires 😎
Dude I need to tint my windows. In Florida all my ranges get murdered by the AC 😢
@@RAH_Holdingsyeah you are lucky if you get 200. People focus only on their personal experiences. Mine looses battery just being parked because of the heat and the cabin overheat protection runs most of the day. It did make a little difference once I got my front windows tints to match the back ones. It’s only like $150. I live in Miami and work in Broward if I only had office I would charge at 80% and get back home at like 30% meaning I have to charge because it’s not enough for the next one. Many times I have to charge at 100 if I’m making client stops. The cool-aid sold about the miles didn’t taste very good once I got mine.
@ideedeevg ....if you don't have a garage, I tell people to think twice before jumping.
My experience has been pretty fantastic. Even before I worked remotely and drove to an office daily, I had zero issues.
@@ferrynpalmer3875 there is a large group of people that don’t have garages. My house doesn’t have one and I have seen many of the new wave of EV owners that live in apartments. So then goes to prove that EV’s are a lifestyle as of now and not suitable for everyone. Even before I had my home charger set up I was spending $16-$21 daily on super charger. That equalled to the Chevy Silverado I had in gas. UA-cam channels that sell the Tesla/ EV dream need to disclose all the cons not just the pros because it’s very biased. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love my car but I wish I had more non biased information from UA-camrs when I was doing my research to make my decision.
EV’s are not for everyone. If you are willing to pay attention to details they can be wonderful cars. If you just want to get in and drive not so much.
Yeah. This was very helpful. Thanks. I live in Canada. Have to check my insurance. My home electricity is 6.8/ kWh. and registration $100/y. Our rebate in Alberta is only $5,000 CND.
Tesla insursnce in Texas was doing about 200$ a month...
Another thing you should mention in the insurance section, Tesla financing does not offer GAP insurance, but you can get GAP insurance through your auto insurance policy with a few vendors
Ryan, if you make a video that talks about price / financing of teslas again, setting the annual mileage on the gas savings page to 1 will basically 0 out the gas savings but still allow you to show how the tax credit impacts things!
Literally was just shopping for one earlier today. Great video, thank you!!
Love your work Ryan! regarding the cyber truck, FSD is rumored to be out next month and auto pilot seems to have very limited features. I have not noticed Lane departure. Correction, but it does have basic cruise control. It’s very confusing to engage for the new driver, you have to press and hold the right scroll wheel. I’m sure it’s documented somewhere, but I did not find it.… A friend told me.
I am not in a market for a new car and I’m not interested in buying Tesla. Why do I find these videos interesting is beyond me. 😁
I love my model Y, I came from a Ram 1500 Longhorn and was paying about $200 per week for my weekly comute, now I am paying about $20 per week for the same comute charging at home.
Incredible difference.
Excellent and comprehensive info. Never owned an EV, but at the right price a model Y is certainly very tempting.
Definitely getting the level 2 home charger once I get my Tesla. I might even install an extra NEMA 14-50 just as a spare for my friends who already own a Tesla can top-off, when they come over.
I like to customize the gas savings and make it 1 mile per year. You can also change the year to one instead of five.
As a former tesla model 3 owner I went back to ICE vehicle for multiple reasons. As much as I liked my tesla for the cool tech, there was a lot of downsides to it as well. One being the range isn’t as advertised at all, and after only 2 years of owning the car I lost over 20 km of range. Made me wonder if I kept the car for a couple of more years how much faster the battery would be degrading. That alone was scary to me. Other thing I didn’t like is that my phone randomly stopped working as a key and I was lucky because I had physical key cards with me, but definitely could of left me stranded if I didn’t have the physical cards. Also the car was a magnet for rock chips sadly, as well as curb rash!! Lastly, I just hated waiting for the car to charge for hours instead of just spending less than 5 min at a gas station… still appreciate this video as it really describes everything very well. Teslas are cool cars for sure, but I don’t think I would ever consider going back to one until the range will be at least 600-700 km which is what my ICE vehicle gives me!
If that is the case which phone you are using & how are you charging it ?
@@ALazyImmigrantInUS I have iphone 15 pro max and before that had 14 pro. So definitely wasn’t my phone I would say, just random glitching at times. The wireless chargers worked really well in a Tesla I have to admit.
San Diego is hella expensive.50-.80, los angels .40-.49, where i live slo .40 -.48
Nice that even though you are an enthusiast, you did not promote FSD. Thanks.
High registration fees are what is keeping me from purchasing an EV. NJ is charging $1000 plus regular yearly registration fees for 4 years up front. So about $1400 to the state for 4 years because you are not purchasing fuel, and paying the gas tax.
So on principle, I guess I'll stick with my Prius since my registration for that is $60 a year
Im glad i rented one instead of buying one. It has some cool features but all the battery issues make it not worth it especially if you dont have a home charger. Im returning it asap smh
I bought a model 3 over 2 months ago and I’m still trying to figure out adjusting the A/C, the music (both from my iPhone and radio), the turning indicator small buttons, why sometimes it rolls all the windows down an inch. Why sometimes it locks the doors and other times it doesn’t. The speech control is the worst, wish it had a bigger vocabulary to understand variety of commands. Why does it keep changing my preferred seat and steering wheel settings.
My son-in-law just got a Chevy Bolt, and is basically a car with an electric motor. Where the model 3 is a poorly designed computer attached to an electric motor. I wouldn’t recommend a Tesla, but I’ll probably keep mine, just Incase some day I’ll figure it all out. 😂
Bro you’re just amazing! 👍🏼 keep up the good work 🫡
I live in Rural NW OKlahoma. We recently bought our new Model Y LR AWD. Probably the third Tesla in the county.
We bought at the end of the first quarter. The lowest price since.
Driving on the interstate with the autopilot is great. On the federal highways and state highways not so great.
We recently took a trip to Southwest Colorado. The trip was around 750 miles. The vehicle Map speed limits were wrong 80% of the time. Always 10 MPH under the speed limit.
I'm not counting speed changes passing through towns on the way.
The Autopilot is useless in that scenario.
I haven’t had that experience in Connecticut or Massachusetts. It’s about 95% correct here.
I’ve had my model Y for 11 months now. The range promised is not accurate, at all. This was a major blow to my new-car enthusiasm. But the main thing that bothers me about range is that I’m limited to only using 60% of the battery daily. I can only charge up to 80%, and when it goes down to 20%, many features don’t work. On top of that, I have to drive like a grandma, avoid aggressive, acceleration, be conservative with the AC, and anything else that drains the battery quickly.
I am ordering the new Rivian. They just introduced the second generation with massive improvements. Tesla is overrated.
@@icare7151how much is the new Rivian. I’m looking to get a new car soon and might consider that one. It looks really nice
@@icare7151 While I do not disagree that Tesla is overrated (and I have one), the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I've seen several videos that point out Rivian's flaws. The three things I'd worry about with Rivian are vehicle repairs after an accident, availability of service to the vehicle (I think Ryan has a video where that is mentioned), and general reliability (again, I think Ryan has a video on that as well).
Like any car, dive it like you stole it and you get poor mileage. The testing is done closer to 60mph not 70mph or 80mph like so many folks drive them. The largest efficient I see driving my BEV is weather. Above 80F or below 45F and mileage drops at least 10%.
Rivian second generation
I’m looking into buying a model Y performance 2024. Should I wait for the juniper next year? I know it’s gonna be more than the current model but the ventilated seats seams quite the luxury add on. My current Audi has it and it’s amazing. What’s your suggestion should I buy now or wait? It’s killing me!
If you want stalks, buy now. If you want interior light and new face-lift, wait.
How is your experience with the leather seats in the summer? I currently own an Audi with ventilated seats and it’s a game changer in the heat. But I also live in the rainy west coast so it’s only sunny for a few months of the yesr
I can't tell ya, haven't got a Tesla yet. I'm picking up an Australian version of MY RWD in 10 days time.
Ryan Shaw. I have 10. owners of Tesla Model Y 2021. Their 4 Years of basic warranty soon expires Do you recommend we buy the Tesla 2 Years Warranty What does this extended warranty covers --- Model Y cost $ 2000,00. Do you think Elon should compensate us He have lately reduced the Model Y prices three Times We are the fool to purchased at high tag prices
We appreciate your reply
Until now nobody can answer the question I've had for 5 and a half years. While you're driving in the city you do not want the lane to change. You want to be in control of your lane change not the car do it for you and the car the Tesla Model 3 constantly making a lane change and I have to turn it off in the software it cannot be done because I cannot find it anywhere. I know you are going to tell me you can do it by turning the left signal to the right. But there's only does it for one time and the next 200 ft it goes back to change lane again and you have to do it again and again throughout your travel in the city. It must have a function in the software in the city in the car who you could turn off lane change in the city completely. I don't ever want the car to change lane I wanted to do the change lane when I went to myself so it have to be away.
93% of the EPA estimated range at 70mph for that model 3 is very impressive IMO. Presumably, there's little regen happening at 70mph so it sounds like you could easily go further?
I've always hated Tesla's configuration page being defaulted to prices based on potential savings. In my opinion that's being very deceptive about the price you are paying for the car. It's a car salesman sleeze move.
Capitalism working as designed, my friend. Don't say anything mean about corporations because corporations are "people".
@@DrRussPhd Yes corporations are people, sleazy people motivated by greed.
@@Resist4 Agree 100%. What is laughingly called "free market capitalism" is really just cannibalism. Enjoy the summer. :)
Im looking to buy a M3 LR but waiting to see if the final rule for tax credits applies once that rule is active on July 5th
Ryan, any chance you have past pricing to compare with the rates on the site? I'm considering upgrading to a Y but don't want to be paying an increased price point. Thank you.
The FSD cost being reduced in price and being made flexible is due to the change in business model required my the philosophy change going into FSD 12. Now, with AI, the way to make FSD more efficient and capable is to accumulate as large and broad a dataset/corpus as possible. Although passive gathering is possible, FSD provides intervention data and feedback which can also help training. I expect, especially as Tesla licenses FSD 12+ to other carmakers, that the recurring cost of FSD should go DOWN to encourage further corpus accumulation/enhancement to allow for AI to have more to work with, especially as geometries will be varied due to other vehicle sources.
I ordered my Model Y on Memorial day, it said June until 2 days ago, now it says July to August. Man do I wish there was an inventory one LOL
My estimate wound up being about $50 over what my payment was. With gas savings turned off. Hoping to pick my Model 3 up this coming weekend.
Great video but why do you always talk about the model y and model 3?
in the market for the new tesla model 3 but wanted to see if you have any info on the amount of emf radiation in the cars??
That’s been tested and nothing to worry about
Very informative. I'll never buy a Tesla but you provided a lot of information for discussion.
What about if you already own another car and want to do trade in. Would they accept all the negative equity
I'm doing only the mobile charger for now. My wife drives 14 miles a day and can charge the car 14 hours a night or 42 miles. She can charge at work and I can charge at my job for free if she let's me drive it. 😂
will the price drop in 2 months? im gonna buy it for school in august. Or i order right now?
Thank you Ryan. One of the best all around reviews of Tesla ownership. Great job.
stever41g. do you suggest to buy 2 years extended warranty for the basic repairs
I love your videos and how you do your analysis. Fantastic ❤
Better to charge to 74% and use to 50% for the LR if your doing short trips .
I want to buy a model 3 for taxi use . Should i buy the standard or the long range?
I'm not sure about the configuration options in the US but in Canada you cannot remove the gas savings or add the federal taxes to see the true cost. Rude on Tesla imo.
The problem for me is the replacement cost for a new battery
Best video so far , touching all the hot topics thank you! I’ll get one one day as well!
Do you have to program your Tesla to charge during off peak hours or is it set by default?
It isn’t “the EPA’s promised range”. The EPA does NOT test any car. Tesla tests their own cars and reports the data to the EPA, so it’s Tesla’s promised range.
great video!!
Great job Ryan!!!
I don't believe that Tesla builds the car specifically for you, but rather creates the cars based on data and then assigns you a car depending on your configuration.
The selfsales/service tools Tesla built needs to marry Salesforce with Xai...
What if you can’t have home charger? Would you still be ok charging at Super chargers all the time?
Yeah depending on your commute. Most people charge once a week and that really isn't that big of an issue. At home charging on a 12v charger will still get you some range durning the week if you need it.
i have a new standard range Tesla Model 3 and I have been getting 284 miles per charge
Ryan your videos gave me all the information and confidence to take delivery on a model Y in May, and change to an EV lifestyle. Thank you and keep up the great videos
I ordered one during the 0.99% and still no delivery date, it keeps getting pushed 😔
I really feel like the Rivian R2 and R3 are going to blow away Tesla once launched.
Great video, very informative!
Tesla website says 1.99% financing on Model 3s. Dylan said performance model not included.
Is it impossible to make a good looking efficient wheel?
Teslas insurance rate is good if you drive like a little old lady, I didn’t buy a Tesla to worry about driving slow. Progressive cost 1/2 of Tesla insurance. I didn’t like having my driving being tracked either. My wife had a score of 92, mine was 62, lol, so if u drive slow and like watching your score, Tesla insurance is for you! Not for me! I do love Tesla, I own 3🚗
Your Tesla vehicle records everything you do and uploads it to Tesla HQ, which determines your next month's insurance bill. Tesla is a data mining company that also sells cars.
Excellent thorough advice. Thank you.
As alway a very informative Video ❤
Perfect timing, been thinkin abt a model 3
Considering a used private seller Tesla as in Nevada there’s no sales taxes vs a dealer. I don’t qualify for the $4K tax credit as my income is higher than the threshold but do qualify for the $7500 on a new Tesla. 😊
What you really need to know is the following: 1) Insurance is much higher for EV than gasoline cars. Why I asked the insurance company? Because the repairs are higher was the answer. 2) You will not get the advertised miles. I bought a Model Y whose range supposedly is 274 miles. I don't get that. On average about 200 miles forcing me to charge the car daily. Lucky I was able to install the charger and the cables myself saving the $1400 that the electrician wanted for the installation. 3) The repairs are indeed expensive. During a flood I drive my car less than 300 yards from my house to a neighbor's house. The water was about 2 feet high. The right rock panel came off. Tesla wanted $419 for the repair and neglected my claim that most likely the rock panel was improperly installed. My daughter had a Model 3 less than a month old that went through the follow too. Tesla wanted a whooping S919 for a flood inspection , just the inspection no repairs. We refused and dealt with the insurance company who ended up declaring the car total loss.
These cars are still in the experimental phase. I wish we wouldn't have bought Teslas.😡😡😡
Ryan Shaw. do you recommend to buy extended 2 years Warranty to protect Basic repairs
Rivian just introduced my next EV truck and suv!