wouldn't it make more sense to take over the station for further scientific research and possibly the colonization of mars therefor creating a new and a better civilization with little to no war.
that could be the final fallout game they civilized space soon after a long time they come back down to rebuild earth and well...that's it rip fallout. although they could make one about taking back earth were u fly to different major areas and u have to complete a lot of quests to finally civilize earth again
What if in fallout 5 you are play as a ex-Enclave member and have to rebuild the enclave and have to make choices like whether to attack certain settlements to take them over OR make peace with them etc. I dunno, just a stupid theory
Anonymous Gamer Untrue. The brotherhood was already preparing liberty prime for use against the enclave before the lone wander joined their ranks. they were screwed either way. In fallout two it's debatable.
If Bethesda ever makes another fallout game, it better have the enclave in it. I mean I don't know about anybody else but they were my favorite faction in all of the fallout games
Anonymous Gamer The pretenders in Fallout 3 was not the real brotherhood untill father Maxson took over. I would like too see the Enclave in some way in the next game, but i do think it was a good thing that they took a break from them in Fallout 4. Otherwise we get the overuse like Nazi Zombies and ect.
I hope it’s like earth is semi rebuilt but instead of getting nuked agin government falls apart enclave comes back all out war but no nuke not yet at least
Big man Autumn as 80 years old? How long did House live again? I mean space stations, mega robots, lasers, plasma, hover tanks, power armor, steath suits. There is a chance that pre-war living standards exceeded 80.
alex saucedo Because our government only makes things that can be used as a weapon, stopping the aging is like stopping death, Government disapproves greatly
alex saucedo Oh there is no doubt in my mind that one has been made in secret to benefit a single individual, I'm just saying that the government as a whole wouldn't make one.
@@NerdZWastaken Enclave is probably hiding in the deep south imo Lots of military outposts there, lower population density and less large cities and it being on the east coast means it probably got nuked less so it's more fertile than most places in the US. You'd also be able to get to the gulf of Mexico easier where there'd probably be a few oil rigs they can either use to harvest small bits of oil or uses as bases. We've never been deep south before, nor has the brotherhood so it's likely they could be a major power in the area with their advance technology and military know how, plus the southern Americans likely would favor the old world government of the US more than anyone else as they would have a stronger sense of patriotism
@@prussiangermansoldier2987 As a southerner myself I would def be on board. God Bless America. God Bless the Enclave. They'd have an army of Good Old Boys with Varmint rifles in no time.
In all of bethesda's fallout games you have been a vault dweller. So unless someone else makes the next game, like that crummy new vegas junk, I don't think the player being a vault dweller will be a problem.
jalemonman I myself don't care about graphics, but if that's the only thing that bugs you about NV you should look into some mods. Install them, and enjoy
How about a twist where instead of the enclave being bad guys the next player joins the enclave to fight the alien fleet with a reverse engineered fleet from the mothership zeta
yes no They do, T-60 is produced by the Brotherhood, they have been building it in large numbers for years under Maxson. They also can produce laser weapons giving them a huge advantage over nearly every other faction.
Nerd-Z makes a great point about what the enclave time line and I don't have anything to oppose his idea, I really like this story for the enclave BUT unless Bethesda says so the its just an idea :(
Well my friend, even though the Enclave is just an idea right now, an idea can never die, it cannot be broken or beaten down like a person can, the Enclave can come back again, through you. ( and the power of mods in fallout 4)
fallout 5 the Enclave will pull a star wars, the Brotherhood becomes more of a dictatorship, and the children of atom will pull a first crusade ,and there will probably be a forth faction try to have eavry one be friends.
Revmon Bobbin I hope that the minute men pick up some technology and knowledge/science from the Institute, propelling them into a dominant force on the west coast. I hope the big 3 in FO5 is Minute Men BOS and Enclave.
I get the feeling that if there is a FO5 it will be ahead in time somewhat and the Minutemen will be a larger faction, allied with the NCR and there is probably going to be a bit of a fight between the BoS and the minutemen/NCR since the NCR have always been on shaky terms with the Brotherhood. I also get the feeling the Enclave might pull a few strings from the shadows.
Travel is 6 hours in a jet, flying by a propeller powered aircraft would be much slower (i.e. max speed of a 757 is 610 mph [not counting tail wind], speed of an Osprey [the aircraft nearest to a vertibird] is only 351 mph). If their aircraft need fuel like ours the Vertibird will be stopping often for fuel, while jets can fly nonstop.
Great break down. I understand that at that particular point of scripting I was a bit lazy... I'll make sure to do better research when it comes to minor details! Thanks again.
We don't know how they were powered, sitting on a oil derrick implies they still used Petroleum. Even so using nuclear power just means you don't have to stop for fuel - but it does NOTHING to improve speed. Vertibirds use propellers, that is the limiting factor (Physics is a harsh master). So you have a prop driven VTOL craft with bad aerodynamics, unless you want to exhaust your crew they will be making at least one stop during the trip.
The Enclave was the best choice to capitol Wateland. They wanted to unify DC under the Enclave flag, by giving them purified water and erradicating super mutants, raiders, and ghouls, and they will lend people a safer future, under the protection of the most powerfull faction. Unlike the BOS, who gave the water for free. WTF?! So they spent mens, resources and energies in giving the water for free and don't even require help instead. Also the final battle doesn't make sense. Why did Lyons says " We've to take the purifier now bla bla" Why? to press the button first? Autumm didn't wanted to poisoning the water, as the President Eden told us, and when youre in their base, who does the troopers hear to? Exactly, Autumm. Maybe the BOS have good intencions, but not necessary the best ending. The Enclave aren't the bad guys only because the have "Black badass helmet"
What Smith said. I will deeply hate Bethesda for ruining Enclave in Fo3, but they did make Enclave much more reasonable faction and the best faction to rebuild the United States. Until we destroyed Enclave in D.C
To be honest, the Brotherhood wanted the purifier for the same reason the Enclave wanted it, to win the hearts and minds of the people of the Capital Wasteland so they could control them. Lyons really wasn't any better than Autumn.
Maschulus Smith- the Brotherhood rage murdered my troops and we had a lot of civilians in Raven Rock so if the Lone Wanderere didn't blow up Raven Rock the Brotherhood and Prime blow it up killing a lot of civil.
OH man Preston is pretty bad, but I think Strong is a close second in Fallout 4 at least. He's too big and hates fucking everything you do. You just Can't win. lol
Fallout 5, Chicago, Enclave's last base (on earth). NCR is moving east, Brotherhood is moving west. Ultimately, they meet in Chicago. Your character starts out in the middle with the Enclave, set up somewhere in the outskirts of the city, who, after many years, end up being quite decent compared to the bureaucratic NCR and the war hungry Brotherhood. Then add in the true Enclave up in the space station, dividing the Chicago remnants between two ideals, and you got yourself a cool fuckin story. Plus Chicago is a wasteland filled with some of the most horrible rad monsters in North America. Would make for an awesome endgame area, similar to The Divide but much larger. Of course this is probably too interesting for Bethesda to actually do.
9:56 it's a bit of an assumption to guess that it's the engine's fault, it was 1: left out in the open for 200 years 2: mounted on a truck (may need special conditions or casing) 3: may have been improperly started 4: parts may have been stolen
I would have loved an old Enclave base in Fallout 4, Imagine this, you stumble upon a high tech looking facility and there are raiders trying to get in, you clear them out and unlock the door then set down a ladder. You get to the bottom and there is a vault looking room and nothing else. Just a few cabinets and a desk chair and terminal. But there's a locked door on the other side of the room that won't open. If you come near the door you will hear faint talking and scratching. Accessing the terminal will uncover a diary of an enclave soldier hiding out after hearing of the destruction of the faction. The last entry describes him going to Chicago for help and reinforcements. So after you read all that the door finally opens and you are greeted by a group of Enclave soldiers which question your allegiances. Under no circumstances will they attack and you cannot attack them. So after you leave the bunker a few vertibirds will land and a few soldiers and none other than Arch Dornan will approach you. He will berate you for being out of power armor, then when your kitted out the will explain that they need intel to attack the brotherhood (if you are with the brotherhood they would give an extra objective to spy on them) the quest would be called "Long Forgotten" So the quest would consist of killing brotherhood and stealing documents, sabotaging operations, and recruiting non irradiated wastelanders to join. After that the real fun starts. A quest called "Purity" would be given right after that from a radio signal. It would task you with clearing out Diamond City, Quincy, Goodneighbor and finally recruiting the Institute to create an army of soldiers with synths. The radiant quests would be clearing out settlements and other stuff. The final quest would be called "taking it back" and you would have to destroy the prydwen, the railroad and convince the minutemen to join. Then there would be a cutscene showing thousands of vertibirds flying over the Commonwealth and the remaining brotherhood being killed. Then you get to interact with the enclave for the rest of the game, except you don’t get to take over the faction. I mean, bethesda already has a huge obsession with making the main character in fallout and elder scrolls take over whatever faction they stumble across.
So here’s my idea. Seargeant Dornan, and some other enclave guy, maybe Enclave Comms guy, are hanging out in their bunker. You kill the raiders and bust in the vault. The enclave think your a raider and are ready to make their last stand. Enclave Comms guy will pull his gun on you and if you act like a little crap head to him he opens fire and you lose the enclave quest. If you act politely to him he’ll patch you through to seargeant dornan. He’s wearing barely functioning Advanced power armor but he still has his iconic white helmet. He says ‘your one of us now. SO YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM SOLDIER.’ Maybe he sends you on a quest to retrieve enclave standard advanced power armor, which is hidden throughout a Locked portion of the base. You unlock it by hacking a terminal, and gain access to the armory. Basically the next portion of enclave questage is the enclave rebuilding. You get sent on tech retrieval radiant quests, occasionally you will be sent out to gather a found enclave remnant, after they return deargeant Dornan can go on many ear blistering rants for him going AWOL, you collect more weapons, you fix more armor, you recruit more wastelanders, until Dornan finally decides to strike. He sends you with a former member of Enclave Sigma Squad to go take the berkelium agitator from the brotherhood so they can’t power liberty prime. You also go through several other similar quests to the main ones just with an enclave twist. Sigma Squad guy can also become an enclave companion if that’s what you want, only less better than danse because of his lower armor and plasma rifle for lower dps. The beryllium agitator, with so much power in it, finally powers the lights and everything on the enclave hidey hole, getting their base to fill working order for a foreseeable 200 more years. This turns it into a settlement workshop and you can plant crops in the planters, get water from the nearby swamp river, and plant defenses. Dornan then says you need to kill the brotherhood. If you go with Dornan’s plan, basically you and all the other enclave run up to Boston Airport guns blazing trying to kill everything you can. If you talk him out of it you basically sabotage or destroy any brotherhood tech and blow up the blimp, resulting in a full raid of the compound by the brotherhood. They come in from multiple angles of the base after it was unburied, and basically kill everything. The laser turrets and whatnot fire upon the brotherhood enemy, and if you’re good, you can take them out, but if you’re not the brotherhood is tough. After this mission you get the mission sideline which basically means they want you to kill the railroad. You can plant bombs on the railroads base and blow up old north church, or do it Dornans way and just show up with enclave issue plasma rifle and kill everything in sight with your men. Same goes for the minutmen, if they are big enough to be a threat Dornan sends you to sanctuary or wherever the hell preston is to go shoot his face off. This is a great way for people to kill preston if they don’t like him. Then the final battle, killing the institute. This battle involves you sneaking through certain pipes like in the railroad version to get to the institute. Once in the enclave attack killing everything. It basically goes as every anti institute ending there is, but now Seargeant Dornan has pulse grenades that temporarily disable the synths. You run around in the background shutting down defenses and releasing synth gorillas. After this battle the enclave start building up into a more powerful faction, not a big one, but powerful enough to rule the commonwealth mostly with an iron fist and a lot of yelling.
Yes, along with chem addicted sex lizards, an NCR splinter faction army even more impressive than the actual NCR's, troop transport vertibirds, functioning tanks and hermit spiders
They are unifit to continue the american legacy anyway. to rebuild society, you need strong, sane , reproductive men and women. degenerated ghouls and mutants and sick people are not a good start for any sort of society. early societies also start with harsh juristic systems (capital punishment for things such as theft) which is already a widespread punishment, which will still be inherrited when the Enclave should take ground.
I hate that they tried to make the enclave the a-typical "WE IZ EVIL" meme in fallout 3. I mean, they're the legitmate remnants of the US Government right? I wsh they were more grey, shadowy, than "evil"
I mean, as "legitimate" as a government can be claiming to be the continuation of something that effectively ended hundreds of years ago. Kind of like a government today claiming to be the true successor to Rome or something
The US goverment was actually pretty fucked up before the bombs dropped, they were experimenting on their civilians, they had enacted marshal law across the whole country, subjugated canada, and done a lot of other rights violations and such.
You know why i hated the Enclave in FO3 ? Because it wasnt a playable faction , even when i told Colonel Autumn the code for the water purifier he just killed me. Brotherhood of idiots. GOD BLESS AMERICA , GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE !
this would be nice for a fallout game taking place in new york state having the invasion take place in outer new york state aka close to Massachusetts the part of new york state that is basically just trees not a lot people the occasional farm or area with a truck stop and multiple other businesses around the truckstop
for those coming back after Fallout 76's launch The Enclave also have a second Zax's super computer known as Mordus. This super computer however unlike EDEN was made specifically for espionage and for surveillance, there are logs that confirm this. When the player wishes to join the Enclave there is a quest that is given to them asking them to establish connection between MODUS and a satellite station in orbit for means of communication and of course surveillance. Also worthy of note is the crashed orbital station in the top area of Appalachia, this station is not the one MODUS links to however and was put in orbit before the bombs. That being said there is also lore pointing to an orbital platform designated as Bomb-01 essentiallty this platform was constructed that in the event of Nuclear war, would rain ICBM's on the enemies of the US after the below ground nukes were launched.
I was exploring The glowing sea, i watch, i add this, a temporaly cheat to remove the radiation. But it have a ubication, i'm from spain, in spain it calls "Vertibird estrellado" in english could be "Crashed vertibird". I doesn't find it in Fallout Wikia this place. But this vertibird it have white parts. The BoS it has god red parts and is black.
i chalked that one up to a pre war vertibird due to it being sunk into the ground. also their is a vertibird just out of reach of far harbor, and thinking about how a member of the children of atom (richter) is ex enclave he could have learned about the nucleus from enclave reports.
I wouldn't be surprised if fallout 5 began in space, maybe something similar to that enclave theory. I mean, it's pretty funny how the only quest where you actually go to space, is the alien dlc from FO3.
Kyle Lopes as long as Todd is shafting the Fallout franchise for "muh season pass" and "muh spinoff app game microtransactions" and "muh convoluted settlement building" and "muh permissible mods for (abominable) console gay-mers", the Fallout franchise is doomed. Todd and the development team forgot that a bunch of shit, broken record marketing gimmicks that pander to micro&soft retards don't make a game (or any entertainment medium for that matter), an original and/or innovative story and its integral gameplay do, both of which FO4 lacks and FO3 has
I do agree that F04 is missing something that FO3 had, but so was New Vegas and when it comes to DLC, I think the FO series always played it straight, unlike most games who come out with named DLCs and extra content (that sometimes is even canon to the story), even at times when said content is already in the core game file but behind a paywall, FO always sold the season pass but never shoved it in your face. the settlement thing was kind of a hit and a miss, hardcore fallout players will know that the management of settlements is not a new thing, shit there's even a Fallout pen & paper RPGwhere they give you specific details on how to run a settlement. That being said, I did get upset when they raised their season pass price once they had settled on their DLC, but once I bought said DLCs (I've got Far Harbour, Nuka world and Automatron purchased individualy) I think it was good enough to be worth it. And I really don't care about Fallout Shelter's microtransactions, I mean there's people who spend money in candy crush, to you know, you do yours.
Kyle Lopes I agree. Additional content and world building has been integral in both of Bethesda's franchises. However, as of recent, whether by Zenimax's control or Bethesda softworks' sudden incompetence or both, all they've shown is a bunch of used car salesman marketing tactics that can only reasonably appeal to 12yo and sub-80 IQ xbone fanboys. No one can say that it's a complete surprise when Todd took over project directorship of FO4 and subsequently its marketing that everything went to complete shit; he should've stayed on the dev team where he belonged and in their dungeon and never let out.
@@poolee77 Oh yeah, definetly, but then again, Obsidian's Outer Space wasn't nearly as good as New Vegas as well, could it be the lack of the FO license? Maybe, I think it's just a shift of the times for each studio, they're going for what they want to work on, Bathesda on something that makes easy money, while Obsidian is still looking for a brand to use the FO formula on, I personally think the story and characters in Outer Worlds scream "leftist propaganda", but the gameplay is ultra solid and I'd give a kidney to see it on a FO game.
Even more proof is in Fallout 76, thanks to the Kovac-Muldoon Orbital Platform. Damn. It would be one hell of a DLC mission for a future Fallout game to go up to a Enclave-occupied space station.
Fallout 5... Cape Canaveral. We open to a scene of the oceans licking the beach with Old folks at home. The camera stays at ground level as we explore Miami and work our way to the old Cape Canaveral space port. Eyebots fly by and we observe a rocket being prepared... Just as the Choras begins (All the world is sad and dreary Everywhere I roam. O dear ones, how my heart grows weary, Far from the old folks at home.) Three Hellfire soldiers see the camera and bullets fly. The camara scans up and a giant metal boot stomps down on it and the the title flies up...
If you haven't heard about it yet, there's a huge New Vegas mod called "The Frontier". It's a huge DLC sized mod that adds new landspace and quests. They plan to add the Archimedes II space station as a location you can explore. If I am correct the Archimedes II is from the Enclave. It fits greatly into the theories you have stated in your video. Highly suggest you check it out. Here's a link ua-cam.com/video/U0OcT-xZZ_Q/v-deo.html
"Are the Enclave in Space?" The Enclave owns two, three Orbital Space Stations. Bradley-Hercules (Project Highwater Trousers), Kovac-Muldoon and an unnamed Station. make with that information what you will.
Good theory, pretty solid, except I believe the rocket engines in the Commonwealth wasn't the same model as the one in arc jet, and if the station didn't have power, it could of fell back to earth in those 200 years. That said, a moon base or Mars base is feasible depending on how much cargo they could get up with a rocket and if they built multiple rockets, the definitely had all the blueprints, it's just a matter of having the materials and production power.
I refuse to believe that the scientists at Big MT are the smartest just because of them installing their brains on robots that doesn't have hands, that's pretty stupid. On a more serious note, I think the Institute is above the Big MT dudes in terms of smarts because teleportation alone and realistic synthetic shits trumps everything Big MT has ever done (Sierra Madre clouds, robo-scorpions, hazmat suits, lobotomites etc)
Chris S uh, buddy they did teleportation too i mean that's literally how you go too and from big mt also big deal the institute built robots with ai wait big mt did that first and instead of stealing personalities they created them from scratch they've also mastered genetic engineering e.g(cazadores,and nightstalkers) they also created the spore carriers and literally created sonic weaponry. Compared to the institute woo robots and teleportation NOT LIKE BIG MT LITERALLY DID THAT BETTER AND PRE-WAR. Before you start spewing shit like you know the games actually play them bugthesda fanboy
See things like that gap? its smart for fallouts story. Because much like halo in its early years they're more or less laying grounds for future lore. hinting at a bigger and bigger universe. (whether said grounds are taken advantage of or not by Bethesda we'll just have to see) The Enclave is without a doubt among one of my most favorited faction/organizations in gaming history and i personally just find it a tragedy thay HAVE to be this villain thats always going to get Raped by some godlike lone figure everytime given how advanced they are. They can still be done right and given love and i hope they'll recieve just that in future installments.
Easy explanation: The entire enclave couldn't take vertibirds to DC. Vertibirds don't hold that many people, they are basically Ospreys which have tons of mechanical issues and break all the time, they'd need to refuel much sooner than your map shows placing them well outside of chicago, and The amount of fuel it would take is just too much. There are barely enough nuclear reactors to power a single power armor suit in fallout 4 much less a fleet of vertibirds.
Asahi Riku The Adams Airforce Base had basically everything there for them, they just had to set up shop after taking down the hostile robots at the base and repairing the turrets, and like he mentioned in the Video, with the Brotherhood building an AIRSHIP in less than ten years it’s not hard to believe the Enclave with all of their tech was able to build the mobile base which was for LAND, which would be easier to build since you wouldn’t really have to worry about the aerodynamics of it and making sure it’s not so heavy that it falls and crashes to the ground mid air, and the Enclave has basically everything done for them, the Booster Engine has basically been completely, they had a Station up in Space, basically all they had to do was make some adjustments here and there, fix some damaged parts, and take to the stars
Nah I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed Autumn senior died because he told his son Eden was a robot before passing away. Everything else in the theory is solid; just replace his father with Autumn Jr. there’s dialogue in F03 where you can allow him to live
If they make another fallout game I think it should be about stopping the enclave from launching Hermes 13 after the recover it, and about half way through you get the choice to continue stopping the enclave or join them and go to space
I think Bethesda left that mural of the space man on the moon for a reason. It’s likely that a future fallout will explore these moon bases which are highly likely to be Enclave bases.
Imagine if star field is about the enclave wanting to expand America to the stars and have given up on earth but have a wish to go back and reclaim then boom fallout 5 starts
I get this is partly *tongue in cheek* but one note: Vertiberds are established to be short range aircraft already explaining in lore why they can't be used for mass (or any) long distance travel and only short range missions from a fuel base. A few min later you do mention that they "set up refueling stations as they go" but this doesn't work based on well... physics haha. You can't carry enough fuel to refuel yourself :) I do not however think this breaks this theory tho, I would simply propose they found or had access to a cross country rail line, perhaps underground. It would "add lore" but is not outside the ability of the supposed power of the pre-war Enclave, especially if it was used for some time pre-war, as a secret way to travel for members or something. Think subway from the Mansion to the research lab in Resident Evil 1. :)
@@TimtheEnchanter25 well both have their strenghts, Enclave have Vetribirds, way better power armors than BOS, mind controlled deathclaws, robots, depending on wich time era Enclave would face the legion they would win or lose, Fallout 2 Enclave with its full might would win with Frank on the front, but FO3 enclave i wouldn't be so sure but the orbital missile system would give massive edge though, but legion could indeed overrun enclave with its massive manpower in time i ques, but suffer massive casualties
This fits in line with the “Fallout: The Frontier” storyline. In Chapter 2 of the story, the NCR come under attack by Archimedes 2, and learn that the Enclave is still active, using Archimedes 2 as an orbital base. The mission of Chapter 3 is to assault Archimedes 2 and destroy the Enclave (preferably the station, as well. The Followers would LOVE that)
It makes a lot of sense considering in Fallout 3 when they used the Orbital Strike against liberty prime in the Broken Steel DLC so they would have to have people maintaining it.
THEORY INCOMING!! The Enclave are in Fiji. Fiji is like an ENCLAVE in the pacific ocean. En-clave.... 2 syllables. Fi-ji.... 2 syllables... coincidence? I think not.
I'm guessing the space station you mentioned is B.O.M.B-001 which was supposed to make an appearance in Van Buren? and even though Van Buren isn't considered canon, for the sake of time I would have to disagree that the enclave would be there, because as we know from the Van Buren wikia that the station was damaged severely... and I would imagine floating ambiantly in space for such a large portion of time would most likely mean that the state had sustained more damage causing it to be unusable... and even if it was usable I highly doubt the enclave would have been able to being enough material with them to repair the ship... so in my own conclusion I think we should all look to Zelot Richter as being a prime example that the Enclave is dead, or had abandoned a majority of its men and scattered elsewhere. what do you think?
Yes the station was damaged, but not beyond repair. The haul connecting the stations living area and the bridge was damaged sure, making it so a space walk was needed to get from one to the other. As for repairs there is the second B.O.M.B satellite that can be used. This is all going on the fact that The Archimedes satellite and the Bradly Hercules are both still in orbit and functioning enough to fire. And yes I am going off lore that has yet to be confirmed as cannon, but my point of the video wasn't a firm "this is what Bethesda is doing!" etc. It was to give a glimpse into what the future could have in store for us. The Wikia for the Station its self claims that the station is only slightly damaged. And as far as I can tell the Van Buren Wikia has no mention of the satellite being Severely damaged in fact it seems to suggest that its still fully operational. If it is beyond repair no biggie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's not like they aren't still on earth anyways. haha Van Buren Wikia: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Buren B.O.M.B Wikia: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Buren
i think this makes a bit more sense. even if they did have some materials up there to repair some systems. i doubt there is enough to bring the station to peak operation.
They would be the best hope for humanity. Too bad Bethesda is probably going to make the lore be: that the Minutemen, or God forbid, the schmucks of the Railroad won. 'Cause, feelings.
even after autumns death the enclave “remnants” were still developing weaponry and armor as well as experimenting with deathclaws. i feel like this was an invasion force or occupational force instead of the entirety of the enclave like how to the highest ranking member besides eden is a colonel.
If the FO US gov't was anything like the irl US gov't, then its unbelievable to me that the enclave would have been in hiding for 180 years without ever having gone to war at any point before the 2240s unless they were doing other things, like space flight or continuing the war in the far east. Is the enclave in space? yes. too much time has passed for them to have been so easily beaten by wasters.
Right? Its that or they are building up ranks in a undiscovered location. The reach they had was to great for them to just have two bases and just disappear.
Something I was hoping had more water to it was there was early fallout lore, and then the Nuka World DLC that both implied that the Enclave had a deal worked out with Vaultec to settle a new world entirely
Nice theory, but i got 1 bug with it. How would they survive in space for any medium to long period of time? First issue would be the production of air/water/food (or periodic/regular supply rockets), but, considering the ingame universe wants to be realistic, here are some important additional issues: - in space there are quite a lot of debis, the longer the space "mission" is, the exponential higher chances of accidents related to this; - long term exposure to low gravity (not only 0-g) generate sever health issues (that's ignoring the waay bigger level of ionizing background radiation that would also affect any food production capability) - the longer they stay in space, the fewer they are; mammals cannot reproduce in 0-g as the sperm cell (tail) movement (spin) is dependent on the constant force of gravity; i read no studies of this in low-g (artificial g), but i can only speculate it also has (less potent) adverse effects; even if conception would be possible, (earth orbital) space is a hazardous place by many factors, delivering a pregnancy to term + giving birth + raising a child to a healthy adult is, improbable (no need to extrapolate to a whole generation of space dwellers) ....but still, nice theory!!
@@NerdZWastaken the ones in fallout new vegas that where enclave have the symbool on it and robots are guarding that crash site so it woudend make sense if pre war army robots where securing a post war enclave crashed vertibird
@@heavybeast6587 True, but if the Fallout 2 ones don't also have them then the single remnant Vertibird having the logo isn't 100% proof. The Enclave could have also sent the robots out to collect the crash site.
According to the lore, there should be Enclave bunkers globally. So I see no reason that the enclave fought in Fallout 3 and before was only a tiny fraction.
Because most if not all were located in hidden bunkers unknown to vault tec and the US government. Meaning the Enclave on the oil rig were the only active unit on the surface, however there are a few enclave vaults that were active once. During the non cannon Brotherhood of steel game a vault tec/Enclave vault was the source of the games Evil and it was up to the player to stop them. So the bunker has since been destroyed. This leads me to believe that there are others out there working in secret to one day realize the Enclave dream!
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We haven't seen the last of the Enclave
wouldn't it make more sense to take over the station for further scientific research and possibly the colonization of mars therefor creating a new and a better civilization with little to no war.
that could be the final fallout game they civilized space soon after a long time they come back down to rebuild earth and well...that's it rip fallout. although they could make one about taking back earth were u fly to different major areas and u have to complete a lot of quests to finally civilize earth again
no.... no you haven't
Not at all my Dear America we will rise again.
Hey Autumn, how do you feel about me killing Eden and all of Raven Rock in return for killing Dad? good.
I hope the Enclave come back in FO5 if there is one and they can be a joinable faction because that would be interesting
Anonymous Gamer how? They're ass holes
Soldier 76 hell yhea support the 4th riech
What if in fallout 5 you are play as a ex-Enclave member and have to rebuild the enclave and have to make choices like whether to attack certain settlements to take them over OR make peace with them etc.
I dunno, just a stupid theory
Anonymous Gamer
Untrue. The brotherhood was already preparing liberty prime for use against the enclave before the lone wander joined their ranks. they were screwed either way.
In fallout two it's debatable.
Ray Z even preston can take on libiterty prime
They probably got to space in their Rocket 69
ROCKET 69! ROCKET... 69!
69!
Ok you got me there
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lol I remember that song
If Bethesda ever makes another fallout game, it better have the enclave in it. I mean I don't know about anybody else but they were my favorite faction in all of the fallout games
Spetnaz Specter
Same
Spetznaz Specter same
"they have been in every single game" Nope
They were not in Fallout 1
Anonymous Gamer The pretenders in Fallout 3 was not the real brotherhood untill father Maxson took over.
I would like too see the Enclave in some way in the next game, but i do think it was a good thing that they took a break from them in Fallout 4. Otherwise we get the overuse like Nazi Zombies and ect.
If Bethesda makes another fallout game it'll be more Call of Duty than Fallout
And there's the plot of Fallout 5: Return of the Enclave
We can only home.
Hope*
I hope it’s like earth is semi rebuilt but instead of getting nuked agin government falls apart enclave comes back all out war but no nuke not yet at least
I hope it gets better like the LOTR series. Fo5 could use some obsidian intervention, or atleast some classes on how to dialogue.
Fallout 6: The Enclave awakens
Fallout 7: The last Enclave
Big man Autumn as 80 years old?
How long did House live again? I mean space stations, mega robots, lasers, plasma, hover tanks, power armor, steath suits. There is a chance that pre-war living standards exceeded 80.
Snowbrawler if the institude could make kellog stop his age why is the US government not going to try it aswell?
alex saucedo Because our government only makes things that can be used as a weapon, stopping the aging is like stopping death, Government disapproves greatly
Commander Daniel Cousland but how cant we know he made one for himself secretly?
alex saucedo Oh there is no doubt in my mind that one has been made in secret to benefit a single individual, I'm just saying that the government as a whole wouldn't make one.
Commander Daniel Cousland yeah so my theory keeps going
"Are the enclave hiding in space?"
FV: FRONTIER: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
Now only if Bethesda would do the same!
@@NerdZWastaken
Enclave is probably hiding in the deep south imo
Lots of military outposts there, lower population density and less large cities and it being on the east coast means it probably got nuked less so it's more fertile than most places in the US. You'd also be able to get to the gulf of Mexico easier where there'd probably be a few oil rigs they can either use to harvest small bits of oil or uses as bases. We've never been deep south before, nor has the brotherhood so it's likely they could be a major power in the area with their advance technology and military know how, plus the southern Americans likely would favor the old world government of the US more than anyone else as they would have a stronger sense of patriotism
@@prussiangermansoldier2987 As a southerner myself I would def be on board. God Bless America. God Bless the Enclave. They'd have an army of Good Old Boys with Varmint rifles in no time.
I hope we can actually join the ranks of the enclave in the next game. I suppose you need to be a vault dweller in order for that.
In all of bethesda's fallout games you have been a vault dweller. So unless someone else makes the next game, like that crummy new vegas junk, I don't think the player being a vault dweller will be a problem.
>New Vegas
>crummy
>junk
Boy, we've got a special kid!
Deutsche Hierarchie wow you have no fucking reference of what is a good game. I'm saddened for you
jalemonman I myself don't care about graphics, but if that's the only thing that bugs you about NV you should look into some mods. Install them, and enjoy
Fallout 4 is a piece of shit and I will fight you irl if you say bad shit about New Vegas aka the best Fallout in the last 20 years.
How about a twist where instead of the enclave being bad guys the next player joins the enclave to fight the alien fleet with a reverse engineered fleet from the mothership zeta
Light Shade yes!!!!!
With The Lone Wanderer still in control of the Mothership? I don't think so. The Enclave in space could possibly be dead due to TLW...
What if that's what starfield is?
Big RIP, I've never actually played the DLC myself, only seen videos and theories of it and TLW having the mothership
Maybe the enclave tried to go to space but was stopped by mothership zeta
Enclave the most badass faction, and they have the best power armor.
Idk I think the Brotherhood is more badass. The pre-war power armour looks cooler, and they live in a fucking balloon.
@@kimjongun3410 If they won't produce their own power armor, they'll fail.
yes no They do, T-60 is produced by the Brotherhood, they have been building it in large numbers for years under Maxson. They also can produce laser weapons giving them a huge advantage over nearly every other faction.
“The Total Package” it’s to bad they don’t portray the Enclave as the good guys.
@@kimjongun3410 we live in fucking space
Nerd-Z makes a great point about what the enclave time line and I don't have anything to oppose his idea, I really like this story for the enclave BUT unless Bethesda says so the its just an idea :(
Unfortunately you are correct sir, but that's why I tried to stick with blatant lore based across each game and not just pure speculation.
BearMaster4.0 screw Bethesda confirming the Enclaves survival, let's have hope in the Remnants of Interplay's Fallout originality
Well my friend, even though the Enclave is just an idea right now, an idea can never die, it cannot be broken or beaten down like a person can, the Enclave can come back again, through you. ( and the power of mods in fallout 4)
the enclave can't die mods keep bringing them back anyway xd bethesda can't destroy the enclave they made a monster lol
Sadly. I thought itd be cool if they were in FO4. Enclave + Institute woulda been DOPE
fallout 5 the Enclave will pull a star wars, the Brotherhood becomes more of a dictatorship, and the children of atom will pull a first crusade ,and there will probably be a forth faction try to have eavry one be friends.
Revmon Bobbin and the fourth faction is you guessed it preston gravey and his minutepeople
Revmon Bobbin I hope that the minute men pick up some technology and knowledge/science from the Institute, propelling them into a dominant force on the west coast. I hope the big 3 in FO5 is Minute Men BOS and Enclave.
east coast*
Let the NCR do its thing in the west.
I get the feeling that if there is a FO5 it will be ahead in time somewhat and the Minutemen will be a larger faction, allied with the NCR and there is probably going to be a bit of a fight between the BoS and the minutemen/NCR since the NCR have always been on shaky terms with the Brotherhood. I also get the feeling the Enclave might pull a few strings from the shadows.
I'm down for that.
As long as I can join the Enclave in the string-pulling.
Travel is 6 hours in a jet, flying by a propeller powered aircraft would be much slower (i.e. max speed of a 757 is 610 mph [not counting tail wind], speed of an Osprey [the aircraft nearest to a vertibird] is only 351 mph). If their aircraft need fuel like ours the Vertibird will be stopping often for fuel, while jets can fly nonstop.
Great break down. I understand that at that particular point of scripting I was a bit lazy... I'll make sure to do better research when it comes to minor details! Thanks again.
but weren't vertibirds nuclear powered like most vehicles which could make them both faster and able to stay airborne longer
We don't know how they were powered, sitting on a oil derrick implies they still used Petroleum. Even so using nuclear power just means you don't have to stop for fuel - but it does NOTHING to improve speed. Vertibirds use propellers, that is the limiting factor (Physics is a harsh master). So you have a prop driven VTOL craft with bad aerodynamics, unless you want to exhaust your crew they will be making at least one stop during the trip.
@jesus gonzalez nuclear power in fallout universe is not fuel. it's just power. hence the whole red rocket stations.
Forest Platt and the would have been slowing down the birds because off the power armor
The Enclave was the best choice to capitol Wateland. They wanted to unify DC under the Enclave flag, by giving them purified water and erradicating super mutants, raiders, and ghouls, and they will lend people a safer future, under the protection of the most powerfull faction. Unlike the BOS, who gave the water for free. WTF?! So they spent mens, resources and energies in giving the water for free and don't even require help instead.
Also the final battle doesn't make sense. Why did Lyons says " We've to take the purifier now bla bla" Why? to press the button first? Autumm didn't wanted to poisoning the water, as the President Eden told us, and when youre in their base, who does the troopers hear to? Exactly, Autumm. Maybe the BOS have good intencions, but not necessary the best ending.
The Enclave aren't the bad guys only because the have "Black badass helmet"
As some one that hated the Enclave until I met them in New Vegas I love this post! You sir have done a great job! :D
What Smith said. I will deeply hate Bethesda for ruining Enclave in Fo3, but they did make Enclave much more reasonable faction and the best faction to rebuild the United States. Until we destroyed Enclave in D.C
You forgot to mention "DEY SHUD MUH DEDDY"
To be honest, the Brotherhood wanted the purifier for the same reason the Enclave wanted it, to win the hearts and minds of the people of the Capital Wasteland so they could control them. Lyons really wasn't any better than Autumn.
Maschulus Smith- the Brotherhood rage murdered my troops and we had a lot of civilians in Raven Rock so if the Lone Wanderere didn't blow up Raven Rock the Brotherhood and Prime blow it up killing a lot of civil.
Man! I wish it was cannon!
IT! COULD! BE! SO! AWESOME!!1
You and me both! If only Bethesda would listen to me haha :p
sup
Nerd-Z NERD
HA! NERD! media.giphy.com/media/OMK7LRBedcnhm/giphy.gif
osht, someone who responds to comments even 5 months later
Todd be like "I have kept this a secret for 5 and you couldnt keep quiet now suffer imense torture" gets locked in a room with Preston Garvey
Fucking yes 😂 the ultimate torture!
Nerd-Z who else do u think is torture in the fallout universe?
OH man Preston is pretty bad, but I think Strong is a close second in Fallout 4 at least. He's too big and hates fucking everything you do. You just Can't win. lol
Nerd-Z lol
i got nothing agents Preston i think he is a cool guy .
Fallout 5, Chicago, Enclave's last base (on earth). NCR is moving east, Brotherhood is moving west. Ultimately, they meet in Chicago. Your character starts out in the middle with the Enclave, set up somewhere in the outskirts of the city, who, after many years, end up being quite decent compared to the bureaucratic NCR and the war hungry Brotherhood. Then add in the true Enclave up in the space station, dividing the Chicago remnants between two ideals, and you got yourself a cool fuckin story. Plus Chicago is a wasteland filled with some of the most horrible rad monsters in North America. Would make for an awesome endgame area, similar to The Divide but much larger. Of course this is probably too interesting for Bethesda to actually do.
The most horrible rad monsters, eh? Like what exactly?
9:56 it's a bit of an assumption to guess that it's the engine's fault, it was
1: left out in the open for 200 years
2: mounted on a truck (may need special conditions or casing)
3: may have been improperly started
4: parts may have been stolen
Thanks for the likes m8
not to mention that the bomb's (The one dropped on Boston) shockwave could've knocked some critical components loose.
According to the lore we know the enclave are in Anchorage and Chicago. So some being in space isn't that far off
I'm waiting for a scene like the prydwen entering the commonwealth, but with enclave space fighters raining hell upon the wasteland
This would make me a very happy wastelander! XD
And drop pods landing with Enclave Soldiers emerging from them
Don't worry, we will come...
People of the wasteland do not interfere out intentions are to kill you all.
I would have loved an old Enclave base in Fallout 4,
Imagine this, you stumble upon a high tech looking facility and there are raiders trying to get in, you clear them out and unlock the door then set down a ladder. You get to the bottom and there is a vault looking room and nothing else. Just a few cabinets and a desk chair and terminal. But there's a locked door on the other side of the room that won't open. If you come near the door you will hear faint talking and scratching.
Accessing the terminal will uncover a diary of an enclave soldier hiding out after hearing of the destruction of the faction. The last entry describes him going to Chicago for help and reinforcements. So after you read all that the door finally opens and you are greeted by a group of Enclave soldiers which question your allegiances. Under no circumstances will they attack and you cannot attack them. So after you leave the bunker a few vertibirds will land and a few soldiers and none other than Arch Dornan will approach you. He will berate you for being out of power armor, then when your kitted out the will explain that they need intel to attack the brotherhood (if you are with the brotherhood they would give an extra objective to spy on them) the quest would be called "Long Forgotten"
So the quest would consist of killing brotherhood and stealing documents, sabotaging operations, and recruiting non irradiated wastelanders to join.
After that the real fun starts. A quest called "Purity" would be given right after that from a radio signal. It would task you with clearing out Diamond City, Quincy, Goodneighbor and finally recruiting the Institute to create an army of soldiers with synths.
The radiant quests would be clearing out settlements and other stuff.
The final quest would be called "taking it back" and you would have to destroy the prydwen, the railroad and convince the minutemen to join.
Then there would be a cutscene showing thousands of vertibirds flying over the Commonwealth and the remaining brotherhood being killed. Then you get to interact with the enclave for the rest of the game, except you don’t get to take over the faction. I mean, bethesda already has a huge obsession with making the main character in fallout and elder scrolls take over whatever faction they stumble across.
Rondu Danur you wrote like the whole game plot if the enclave was in the game
So here’s my idea.
Seargeant Dornan, and some other enclave guy, maybe Enclave Comms guy, are hanging out in their bunker. You kill the raiders and bust in the vault. The enclave think your a raider and are ready to make their last stand. Enclave Comms guy will pull his gun on you and if you act like a little crap head to him he opens fire and you lose the enclave quest. If you act politely to him he’ll patch you through to seargeant dornan. He’s wearing barely functioning Advanced power armor but he still has his iconic white helmet. He says ‘your one of us now. SO YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM SOLDIER.’ Maybe he sends you on a quest to retrieve enclave standard advanced power armor, which is hidden throughout a Locked portion of the base. You unlock it by hacking a terminal, and gain access to the armory.
Basically the next portion of enclave questage is the enclave rebuilding. You get sent on tech retrieval radiant quests, occasionally you will be sent out to gather a found enclave remnant, after they return deargeant Dornan can go on many ear blistering rants for him going AWOL, you collect more weapons, you fix more armor, you recruit more wastelanders, until Dornan finally decides to strike. He sends you with a former member of Enclave Sigma Squad to go take the berkelium agitator from the brotherhood so they can’t power liberty prime. You also go through several other similar quests to the main ones just with an enclave twist. Sigma Squad guy can also become an enclave companion if that’s what you want, only less better than danse because of his lower armor and plasma rifle for lower dps.
The beryllium agitator, with so much power in it, finally powers the lights and everything on the enclave hidey hole, getting their base to fill working order for a foreseeable 200 more years. This turns it into a settlement workshop and you can plant crops in the planters, get water from the nearby swamp river, and plant defenses. Dornan then says you need to kill the brotherhood.
If you go with Dornan’s plan, basically you and all the other enclave run up to Boston Airport guns blazing trying to kill everything you can. If you talk him out of it you basically sabotage or destroy any brotherhood tech and blow up the blimp, resulting in a full raid of the compound by the brotherhood. They come in from multiple angles of the base after it was unburied, and basically kill everything. The laser turrets and whatnot fire upon the brotherhood enemy, and if you’re good, you can take them out, but if you’re not the brotherhood is tough.
After this mission you get the mission sideline which basically means they want you to kill the railroad. You can plant bombs on the railroads base and blow up old north church, or do it Dornans way and just show up with enclave issue plasma rifle and kill everything in sight with your men. Same goes for the minutmen, if they are big enough to be a threat Dornan sends you to sanctuary or wherever the hell preston is to go shoot his face off. This is a great way for people to kill preston if they don’t like him.
Then the final battle, killing the institute. This battle involves you sneaking through certain pipes like in the railroad version to get to the institute. Once in the enclave attack killing everything. It basically goes as every anti institute ending there is, but now Seargeant Dornan has pulse grenades that temporarily disable the synths. You run around in the background shutting down defenses and releasing synth gorillas.
After this battle the enclave start building up into a more powerful faction, not a big one, but powerful enough to rule the commonwealth mostly with an iron fist and a lot of yelling.
How do you know we have dornan in cyro sleep
Yes, along with chem addicted sex lizards, an NCR splinter faction army even more impressive than the actual NCR's, troop transport vertibirds, functioning tanks and hermit spiders
Wait a minute, is this the plot of the Frontier?! Its been spoiled for me! Not the lizard people dang it...
when will the enclave get liberty prime back the u.s needs it
But the US don't need the Enclavr
KeinNameLP It needs it, the Enclave is the goverment that this Wasteland needs
+Mador a "goverment" that kills everyone who wasnt in a Vault?
yeah just figured it out
They are unifit to continue the american legacy anyway.
to rebuild society, you need strong, sane , reproductive men and women.
degenerated ghouls and mutants and sick people are not a good start for any sort of society.
early societies also start with harsh juristic systems (capital punishment for things such as theft)
which is already a widespread punishment, which will still be inherrited when the Enclave should take ground.
If the Enclave is in space I wouldn't be surprised Fallout: The Frontier has them in the Archimedes II
Slick Rick yeah and they are using b.o.m.b from van buren the original fallout 3
Someone should make a fallout 4 mod with this idea.
There. Is a enclave mod. Already
Fallout the frontier just came out! That's pretty much what happened.
@@georgevourtzoumis2967 I'm waiting for the steam version Vortex is broken on my pc
I hate that they tried to make the enclave the a-typical "WE IZ EVIL" meme in fallout 3. I mean, they're the legitmate remnants of the US Government right? I wsh they were more grey, shadowy, than "evil"
Famtamradek same
I mean, as "legitimate" as a government can be claiming to be the continuation of something that effectively ended hundreds of years ago. Kind of like a government today claiming to be the true successor to Rome or something
The US goverment was actually pretty fucked up before the bombs dropped, they were experimenting on their civilians, they had enacted marshal law across the whole country, subjugated canada, and done a lot of other rights violations and such.
Rhapbus1 Ave, true to Caesar
Remember the Enclave in Fallout 2 they were evil.
You know why i hated the Enclave in FO3 ?
Because it wasnt a playable faction , even when i told Colonel Autumn the code for the water purifier he just killed me.
Brotherhood of idiots.
GOD BLESS AMERICA , GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE !
fallout 5 spoiler its like a 50s style alien invasion but its the enclave coming back
Just like iron sky?
this would be nice for a fallout game taking place in new york state having the invasion take place in outer new york state aka close to Massachusetts the part of new york state that is basically just trees not a lot people the occasional farm or area with a truck stop and multiple other businesses around the truckstop
for those coming back after Fallout 76's launch The Enclave also have a second Zax's super computer known as Mordus. This super computer however unlike EDEN was made specifically for espionage and for surveillance, there are logs that confirm this. When the player wishes to join the Enclave there is a quest that is given to them asking them to establish connection between MODUS and a satellite station in orbit for means of communication and of course surveillance. Also worthy of note is the crashed orbital station in the top area of Appalachia, this station is not the one MODUS links to however and was put in orbit before the bombs. That being said there is also lore pointing to an orbital platform designated as Bomb-01 essentiallty this platform was constructed that in the event of Nuclear war, would rain ICBM's on the enemies of the US after the below ground nukes were launched.
i wanted a moon dlc so bad for fallout 4
Same! With all the assets from the Nuka world DLC it could totally happen.
This doesn't sound like the work of Bethesda, this sounds like something you shined a light on that they had no idea about.
i've found in the glowing sea a crshed vertibird. can be from the enclave because is not like brotherhood vertibird
Really? I didn't know there was a crashed Vertibird that far south. :o
I was exploring The glowing sea, i watch, i add this, a temporaly cheat to remove the radiation. But it have a ubication, i'm from spain, in spain it calls "Vertibird estrellado" in english could be "Crashed vertibird". I doesn't find it in Fallout Wikia this place. But this vertibird it have white parts. The BoS it has god red parts and is black.
i chalked that one up to a pre war vertibird due to it being sunk into the ground.
also their is a vertibird just out of reach of far harbor, and thinking about how a member of the children of atom (richter) is ex enclave he could have learned about the nucleus from enclave reports.
In 76 one of MODUS’s terminals say that the orbital platform will instantly record your commendation
Perhaps, now I'm just tossing this out there, someone at Bethesda is a fan. It's a long shot but it would be pretty rad if this vid influenced that.
I wouldn't be surprised if fallout 5 began in space, maybe something similar to that enclave theory. I mean, it's pretty funny how the only quest where you actually go to space, is the alien dlc from FO3.
Kyle Lopes as long as Todd is shafting the Fallout franchise for "muh season pass" and "muh spinoff app game microtransactions" and "muh convoluted settlement building" and "muh permissible mods for (abominable) console gay-mers", the Fallout franchise is doomed. Todd and the development team forgot that a bunch of shit, broken record marketing gimmicks that pander to micro&soft retards don't make a game (or any entertainment medium for that matter), an original and/or innovative story and its integral gameplay do, both of which FO4 lacks and FO3 has
I do agree that F04 is missing something that FO3 had, but so was New Vegas and when it comes to DLC, I think the FO series always played it straight, unlike most games who come out with named DLCs and extra content (that sometimes is even canon to the story), even at times when said content is already in the core game file but behind a paywall, FO always sold the season pass but never shoved it in your face. the settlement thing was kind of a hit and a miss, hardcore fallout players will know that the management of settlements is not a new thing, shit there's even a Fallout pen & paper RPGwhere they give you specific details on how to run a settlement. That being said, I did get upset when they raised their season pass price once they had settled on their DLC, but once I bought said DLCs (I've got Far Harbour, Nuka world and Automatron purchased individualy) I think it was good enough to be worth it. And I really don't care about Fallout Shelter's microtransactions, I mean there's people who spend money in candy crush, to you know, you do yours.
Kyle Lopes I agree. Additional content and world building has been integral in both of Bethesda's franchises. However, as of recent, whether by Zenimax's control or Bethesda softworks' sudden incompetence or both, all they've shown is a bunch of used car salesman marketing tactics that can only reasonably appeal to 12yo and sub-80 IQ xbone fanboys. No one can say that it's a complete surprise when Todd took over project directorship of FO4 and subsequently its marketing that everything went to complete shit; he should've stayed on the dev team where he belonged and in their dungeon and never let out.
@@SailwCaio New Vegas was far better than three. Bethesda is the problem.
@@poolee77 Oh yeah, definetly, but then again, Obsidian's Outer Space wasn't nearly as good as New Vegas as well, could it be the lack of the FO license? Maybe, I think it's just a shift of the times for each studio, they're going for what they want to work on, Bathesda on something that makes easy money, while Obsidian is still looking for a brand to use the FO formula on, I personally think the story and characters in Outer Worlds scream "leftist propaganda", but the gameplay is ultra solid and I'd give a kidney to see it on a FO game.
Even more proof is in Fallout 76, thanks to the Kovac-Muldoon Orbital Platform. Damn. It would be one hell of a DLC mission for a future Fallout game to go up to a Enclave-occupied space station.
Perfect setup for fallout 5!
Oh man that would be Fucking Amazing! :O
Nerd-Z O:
Fallout 5... Cape Canaveral. We open to a scene of the oceans licking the beach with Old folks at home. The camera stays at ground level as we explore Miami and work our way to the old Cape Canaveral space port. Eyebots fly by and we observe a rocket being prepared... Just as the Choras begins (All the world is sad and dreary
Everywhere I roam.
O dear ones, how my heart grows weary,
Far from the old folks at home.)
Three Hellfire soldiers see the camera and bullets fly. The camara scans up and a giant metal boot stomps down on it and the the title flies up...
If you haven't heard about it yet, there's a huge New Vegas mod called "The Frontier". It's a huge DLC sized mod that adds new landspace and quests. They plan to add the Archimedes II space station as a location you can explore. If I am correct the Archimedes II is from the Enclave. It fits greatly into the theories you have stated in your video. Highly suggest you check it out. Here's a link ua-cam.com/video/U0OcT-xZZ_Q/v-deo.html
This is sad
@@wiedzmin8204 I completely forgot about this comment until you replied to it. In hindsight this is a bit weird lol
Such a shame, the Mod had great potential.
Oh well, hopefully the remaining developers can redeem this like Hello Games redeemed No Man's Sky.
@@cyborgparrot1996 lmao we got to smash deathlaws 👀
Aged like milk.
So, this is where they got idea from for Frontier.
I think so yeah 😅
@Nerd-Z I’m sorry for affiliating you with them, but the age of the video kind of fits. Especially since they “incorporated” a lot of things.
No worries friend lol 😆
Love your theory, it makes loads of sense. I hope they use this plot in the next Fallout game.
"Are the Enclave in Space?"
The Enclave owns two, three Orbital Space Stations.
Bradley-Hercules (Project Highwater Trousers), Kovac-Muldoon and an unnamed Station.
make with that information what you will.
That moment when The Frontier takes this idea in their mod.
They should have just asked me to help write the story SMH 🙄
My problem is that I never can really go with a faction, but the enclave 👌
Fair enough
Idk why but I love the old world company names they just sound "cool"
Yuki Terumi the world could never have enough syfi retro futuristic businesses.
Nerd-Z agreed!
your not the only one, i love how the whole theme is the 50's.
Well now it’s all but confirmed due to FO76 enclave deep space power armor.
This is what we call in the business “Foreshadowing”. God frontier was shit
Bethesda should come out and say this was their plan all along
don't give them any more excuses to be lazy, please.
Good theory, pretty solid, except I believe the rocket engines in the Commonwealth wasn't the same model as the one in arc jet, and if the station didn't have power, it could of fell back to earth in those 200 years. That said, a moon base or Mars base is feasible depending on how much cargo they could get up with a rocket and if they built multiple rockets, the definitely had all the blueprints, it's just a matter of having the materials and production power.
you were absolutely fuckin right my dude, Cain just confirmed it.
I would bet money the Enclave have better life extension than the Institute so Colonel Autumn might easilly still be alive, even if a brain in a jar.
wait how does the enclave have better life extension. the institute are the smartest people pre war and post war.
demonpride1975 Nah, that title belongs to the scientists in Big Mtn
I refuse to believe that the scientists at Big MT are the smartest just because of them installing their brains on robots that doesn't have hands, that's pretty stupid.
On a more serious note, I think the Institute is above the Big MT dudes in terms of smarts because teleportation alone and realistic synthetic shits trumps everything Big MT has ever done (Sierra Madre clouds, robo-scorpions, hazmat suits, lobotomites etc)
Chris S uh, buddy they did teleportation too i mean that's literally how you go too and from big mt also big deal the institute built robots with ai wait big mt did that first and instead of stealing personalities they created them from scratch they've also mastered genetic engineering e.g(cazadores,and nightstalkers) they also created the spore carriers and literally created sonic weaponry. Compared to the institute woo robots and teleportation NOT LIKE BIG MT LITERALLY DID THAT BETTER AND PRE-WAR. Before you start spewing shit like you know the games actually play them bugthesda fanboy
randomly got recommended this, so: after what we saw in Frontier, we shouldn't have space Enclave
Wow that impressive that you were able to tie all this together
my man hearting comments on a video 2 years old
that's cool never thought about this :) I like it when you find the Enclave remnants in Vegas
Zetan aliens : Hell yeah, let's start a Star Wars!
*starfield intro plays*
Me an arvage fan of zetan and enclave: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY !
When the subscriber rate is small but the views are huge, it proves that content produced are pure entertaining and talent. Keep it up
Interesting Theory!
Mothership Zeta being the enclave would’ve been better
You could say.. They're in the Outer Worlds
Woah. That’s a very well thought out theory and it’s genuinely possible
Thanks, I gave up a like a month to research it lol
came here after Fallout the Frontier
Glad to see it! The vids a bit old, but still good *slaps roof* yeah still good. 😅 lmao
Same
They left their breadcrumbs everywhere, you'd think they'd cover their tracks but we know you're out there Enclave.
See things like that gap? its smart for fallouts story. Because much like halo in its early years they're more or less laying grounds for future lore. hinting at a bigger and bigger universe. (whether said grounds are taken advantage of or not by Bethesda we'll just have to see) The Enclave is without a doubt among one of my most favorited faction/organizations in gaming history and i personally just find it a tragedy thay HAVE to be this villain thats always going to get Raped by some godlike lone figure everytime given how advanced they are. They can still be done right and given love and i hope they'll recieve just that in future installments.
Easy explanation: The entire enclave couldn't take vertibirds to DC. Vertibirds don't hold that many people, they are basically Ospreys which have tons of mechanical issues and break all the time, they'd need to refuel much sooner than your map shows placing them well outside of chicago, and The amount of fuel it would take is just too much. There are barely enough nuclear reactors to power a single power armor suit in fallout 4 much less a fleet of vertibirds.
What happens if the enclave shot down the ufo in fallout 4
Wouldnt they have used that 35 year gap establishing their base in the capital wasteland until the lone wanderer decides to blow it up
Asahi Riku The Adams Airforce Base had basically everything there for them, they just had to set up shop after taking down the hostile robots at the base and repairing the turrets, and like he mentioned in the Video, with the Brotherhood building an AIRSHIP in less than ten years it’s not hard to believe the Enclave with all of their tech was able to build the mobile base which was for LAND, which would be easier to build since you wouldn’t really have to worry about the aerodynamics of it and making sure it’s not so heavy that it falls and crashes to the ground mid air, and the Enclave has basically everything done for them, the Booster Engine has basically been completely, they had a Station up in Space, basically all they had to do was make some adjustments here and there, fix some damaged parts, and take to the stars
Frontier devs: 👁️👄👁️
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Nah I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed Autumn senior died because he told his son Eden was a robot before passing away. Everything else in the theory is solid; just replace his father with Autumn Jr. there’s dialogue in F03 where you can allow him to live
ohh finally someone saw the space battle in the mural
everyone knows about it dude
But no one really contemplated on what it meant. Every pict in that mural was a huge event. So what does that last one mean?
C_0_M_B_0 certainly against commies, but what fucking oil are they fighting over on the moon
obv Helium-3 aka tralphium
If they make another fallout game I think it should be about stopping the enclave from launching Hermes 13 after the recover it, and about half way through you get the choice to continue stopping the enclave or join them and go to space
I genuinely enjoyed this video, this gives me hope that the Enclave will make an appearance in the next Fallout game. Great Job BTW
Thanks friend! :)
+Nerd-Z nice theory
waiting for some kid to be like "Ad Victoriam and death to the Enclave!"
I think Bethesda left that mural of the space man on the moon for a reason. It’s likely that a future fallout will explore these moon bases which are highly likely to be Enclave bases.
Honestly that would be rad as hell
Imagine if star field is about the enclave wanting to expand America to the stars and have given up on earth but have a wish to go back and reclaim then boom fallout 5 starts
I get this is partly *tongue in cheek* but one note: Vertiberds are established to be short range aircraft already explaining in lore why they can't be used for mass (or any) long distance travel and only short range missions from a fuel base. A few min later you do mention that they "set up refueling stations as they go" but this doesn't work based on well... physics haha. You can't carry enough fuel to refuel yourself :) I do not however think this breaks this theory tho, I would simply propose they found or had access to a cross country rail line, perhaps underground. It would "add lore" but is not outside the ability of the supposed power of the pre-war Enclave, especially if it was used for some time pre-war, as a secret way to travel for members or something. Think subway from the Mansion to the research lab in Resident Evil 1. :)
Wow that's really solid. Damn, I really hope the enclave is alive you just revived my hope at their restoration
Aye!
The legion should fight the enclave that would be cool
you mean The Legion would be just massagred by the Enclave :,D
@@TimtheEnchanter25 hmmm i ques i shouldn't be so sure about it so lets say 70/30 changes of victory
@@TimtheEnchanter25 well both have their strenghts, Enclave have Vetribirds, way better power armors than BOS, mind controlled deathclaws, robots, depending on wich time era Enclave would face the legion they would win or lose, Fallout 2 Enclave with its full might would win with Frank on the front, but FO3 enclave i wouldn't be so sure but the orbital missile system would give massive edge though, but legion could indeed overrun enclave with its massive manpower in time i ques, but suffer massive casualties
This fits in line with the “Fallout: The Frontier” storyline. In Chapter 2 of the story, the NCR come under attack by Archimedes 2, and learn that the Enclave is still active, using Archimedes 2 as an orbital base. The mission of Chapter 3 is to assault Archimedes 2 and destroy the Enclave (preferably the station, as well. The Followers would LOVE that)
great work, great research and valid points. I subbed
It makes a lot of sense considering in Fallout 3 when they used the Orbital Strike against liberty prime in the Broken Steel DLC so they would have to have people maintaining it.
Seems like the frontier team stole this idea from you
Yeah, they might have but you know it is what it is if so.
this is actually pretty awesome, and I hope you're right
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Nerd-Z - 👍
THEORY INCOMING!!
The Enclave are in Fiji. Fiji is like an ENCLAVE in the pacific ocean.
En-clave.... 2 syllables. Fi-ji.... 2 syllables... coincidence? I think not.
*MIND BLOWN*
William Wellborn FIJI?
William Wellborn Fiji water
Illuminati confirmed.
Righ Geal duh it's the us government being controlled by aliens.
No group truly dies as long as there are people with the same ideals.
I'm guessing the space station you mentioned is B.O.M.B-001 which was supposed to make an appearance in Van Buren? and even though Van Buren isn't considered canon, for the sake of time I would have to disagree that the enclave would be there, because as we know from the Van Buren wikia that the station was damaged severely... and I would imagine floating ambiantly in space for such a large portion of time would most likely mean that the state had sustained more damage causing it to be unusable... and even if it was usable I highly doubt the enclave would have been able to being enough material with them to repair the ship... so in my own conclusion I think we should all look to Zelot Richter as being a prime example that the Enclave is dead, or had abandoned a majority of its men and scattered elsewhere. what do you think?
Yes the station was damaged, but not beyond repair. The haul connecting the stations living area and the bridge was damaged sure, making it so a space walk was needed to get from one to the other. As for repairs there is the second B.O.M.B satellite that can be used. This is all going on the fact that The Archimedes satellite and the Bradly Hercules are both still in orbit and functioning enough to fire.
And yes I am going off lore that has yet to be confirmed as cannon, but my point of the video wasn't a firm "this is what Bethesda is doing!" etc. It was to give a glimpse into what the future could have in store for us.
The Wikia for the Station its self claims that the station is only slightly damaged. And as far as I can tell the Van Buren Wikia has no mention of the satellite being Severely damaged in fact it seems to suggest that its still fully operational.
If it is beyond repair no biggie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's not like they aren't still on earth anyways. haha
Van Buren Wikia: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Buren
B.O.M.B Wikia: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Buren
not gonna lie it would be pretty cool to see these in an upcominf game! thanks for the reply
Spencer Hoffman no worries! thanks for the comment. gives me something to do while I work on the next video! :D
i think this makes a bit more sense. even if they did have some materials up there to repair some systems. i doubt there is enough to bring the station to peak operation.
Holy shit, four years in and you're still replying to comments. Respect.
What can I say, I'm just that kind of guy xD lol
What if the enclave and the institute teamed up lol
Jacob Jordan They could have a chance to really change the wasteland into something Great
They would be the best hope for humanity. Too bad Bethesda is probably going to make the lore be: that the Minutemen, or God forbid, the schmucks of the Railroad won. 'Cause, feelings.
the institute was part of the government at one point.
Sole Survivor *at some point
Well, when it was destroy/saved depending on story, it was led by a random commoner, and then an atomic hobo
problem is, the institute would not work with the enclave. they had no desire to share their tech with above ground dwellers.
even after autumns death the enclave “remnants” were still developing weaponry and armor as well as experimenting with deathclaws. i feel like this was an invasion force or occupational force instead of the entirety of the enclave like how to the highest ranking member besides eden is a colonel.
Would love to hear this updated with FO76 lore added in
Thats a interesting idea 🤔
If the FO US gov't was anything like the irl US gov't, then its unbelievable to me that the enclave would have been in hiding for 180 years without ever having gone to war at any point before the 2240s unless they were doing other things, like space flight or continuing the war in the far east. Is the enclave in space? yes. too much time has passed for them to have been so easily beaten by wasters.
Right? Its that or they are building up ranks in a undiscovered location. The reach they had was to great for them to just have two bases and just disappear.
I really, really hope the Enclave returns in the next Fallout and that you can join them.
Damn, you guessed the frontiers story
I would down if they got inspiration from this theory! Thats really all I want lol
>this video
>Fallout the Frontier
oh no no no no no no no
As someone that couldn't finish the mod, I'm sad it didn't turn out the way we had all hoped.
Something I was hoping had more water to it was there was early fallout lore, and then the Nuka World DLC that both implied that the Enclave had a deal worked out with Vaultec to settle a new world entirely
Perhaps they are out there right now. Thriving on a different world!
*posted from the moon*
"lol you know shit about Enclave senpai"
xD
Nice theory, but i got 1 bug with it. How would they survive in space for any medium to long period of time? First issue would be the production of air/water/food (or periodic/regular supply rockets), but, considering the ingame universe wants to be realistic, here are some important additional issues:
- in space there are quite a lot of debis, the longer the space "mission" is, the exponential higher chances of accidents related to this;
- long term exposure to low gravity (not only 0-g) generate sever health issues (that's ignoring the waay bigger level of ionizing background radiation that would also affect any food production capability)
- the longer they stay in space, the fewer they are; mammals cannot reproduce in 0-g as the sperm cell (tail) movement (spin) is dependent on the constant force of gravity; i read no studies of this in low-g (artificial g), but i can only speculate it also has (less potent) adverse effects; even if conception would be possible, (earth orbital) space is a hazardous place by many factors, delivering a pregnancy to term + giving birth + raising a child to a healthy adult is, improbable (no need to extrapolate to a whole generation of space dwellers)
....but still, nice theory!!
The vertibird in the mojave wasteland is pre-war
But the Enclave are also pre war. 🤔
@@NerdZWastaken the veribird does not have the enclave symbol on it
@@heavybeast6587 I don't believe the ones from Fallout 2 had the Enclave logo either and the same goes for Fallout 3 unless I'm mistaken.
@@NerdZWastaken the ones in fallout new vegas that where enclave have the symbool on it and robots are guarding that crash site so it woudend make sense if pre war army robots where securing a post war enclave crashed vertibird
@@heavybeast6587 True, but if the Fallout 2 ones don't also have them then the single remnant Vertibird having the logo isn't 100% proof. The Enclave could have also sent the robots out to collect the crash site.
This lines up perfectly with the fallout tv series plot
A chicago fallout 5 would be so amazing.... just saying
I would absolutely love that!
If only obsidian could steal back the rights to fallout
If only friend...
According to the lore, there should be Enclave bunkers globally. So I see no reason that the enclave fought in Fallout 3 and before was only a tiny fraction.
Because most if not all were located in hidden bunkers unknown to vault tec and the US government. Meaning the Enclave on the oil rig were the only active unit on the surface, however there are a few enclave vaults that were active once. During the non cannon Brotherhood of steel game a vault tec/Enclave vault was the source of the games Evil and it was up to the player to stop them. So the bunker has since been destroyed. This leads me to believe that there are others out there working in secret to one day realize the Enclave dream!
Todd Howard comes out from the shadow:
- Well, well, looks like someone has been asking too many questions lately. *puts a finger on his ear* Do it.
Archie King lol