Can a Tesla Go Off-Road Up a Rocky Mountain? We Compare It to an Old-School SUV | Adventure X Ep. 3

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  • ( www.TFLcar.com ) Can an electric car go off-road. To find out we took our long term Tesla Model X up the Rocky top mountain in a dramatic display of tire shredding off-road prowesses....or not!
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  • @TFLcar
    @TFLcar  4 роки тому +87

    Can a Tesla Tow? We max it out take it up the World's Toughest Towing Test to find out: ua-cam.com/video/DVSHIZihESk/v-deo.html

    • @stockey
      @stockey 4 роки тому +5

      You can damage your battery pack, it's not made for heavy duty off-road

    • @no-damn-alias
      @no-damn-alias 4 роки тому +1

      You didn't tell us the wheel size you're running on the Touareg. You just said it's a 17 inch wheel and 32 inch tyre but that doesn't tell me anything about tyre width etc.
      I know that on the basemodel Touareg you can run 16inch wheels at least on the 2.5TDi which probably was sold only in Europe. At least I found a manual with a rear lock diff and air suspension. I'll have a lock at it tomorrow

    • @ferminbonzano6338
      @ferminbonzano6338 4 роки тому +4

      Watch this offroad tires: ua-cam.com/video/HB-3m6mrkP4/v-deo.html

    • @freakenstein1991
      @freakenstein1991 4 роки тому +2

      The case on that battery pack is 1/4 inch aluminum plate. Pretty beefy already. Maybe get some 10 gauge steel to pair with that and it would be bullet proof.

    • @eichler721
      @eichler721 4 роки тому +2

      Glad you guys did this comparison like I asked. The Model X is a great road car. 💩 offroad

  • @josephwhiskeybeale
    @josephwhiskeybeale 4 роки тому +1277

    I don’t think anyone ever thought off roading the Tesla Model X was a good idea, everyone just wanted to see the carnage 😂

    • @Whiteandsonsgarage
      @Whiteandsonsgarage 4 роки тому +14

      Joseph Whiskey Beale Hahahaha yeah pretty much

    • @Iahusha777Iahuah
      @Iahusha777Iahuah 4 роки тому +5

      No it is a good idea if it's set up right. It will be famous

    • @Corvin666
      @Corvin666 4 роки тому +7

      You use suvs for adventure so you never know what situations ppl might find themselves in. I always enjoy watching regular cars on trails

    • @thorvaldkjeldaas100
      @thorvaldkjeldaas100 4 роки тому +3

      Joseph Whiskey Beale search for «Bjørn nyland model z offroad» :)

    • @mangotail6808
      @mangotail6808 4 роки тому +12

      Its was allways meant to be a city SUV to climb over potholes, not rocks.

  • @rgolab3174
    @rgolab3174 4 роки тому +553

    For Sale: White Tesla Model X, excellent condition, needs nothing, always babied never abused! 😁😁😁

    • @antoineemond4013
      @antoineemond4013 4 роки тому +13

      I'd still take it lol

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 роки тому +5

      Except, you can't sell a Tesla private party, you must sell it back to Tesla and they sell the used one.

    • @GodOfATL
      @GodOfATL 4 роки тому +15

      mrvwbug44 wrong

    • @antoineemond4013
      @antoineemond4013 4 роки тому +6

      mrvwbug44 Of course you just have to ruin everything.

    • @onlineo2263
      @onlineo2263 4 роки тому +17

      @@mrvwbug4423 what rubbish are you spouting? Just look in the used car listings and select Tesla. They are not all sold by the manufacturer.

  • @Jaredscott89
    @Jaredscott89 4 роки тому +733

    There is a titanium skid plate protecting the batteries. They did not just install some plastic...

    • @AnyFishKiller
      @AnyFishKiller 4 роки тому +163

      Jared Scott why they didn’t feel like researching the underbody of the Tesla before off-roading it is beyond me😂 actually the more you watch the series the more you can hear the the tone of them wanting the Tesla to look worse than it is, so bad

    • @Pedrodemio
      @Pedrodemio 4 роки тому +71

      The titanium skid plate is just at the front of the battery, it doesn't cover the whole bottom, it's made to deflect something that can be at the road at high speed, but the bottom is aluminium and pretty thick

    • @nothingtoseaheardammit
      @nothingtoseaheardammit 4 роки тому +27

      @@Pedrodemio If you're depending on aluminum for UCP (especially on a vehicle as heavy as the Model X) then - well... I know how much offroading you've done :P

    • @seb.
      @seb. 4 роки тому +14

      Indeed, looks like research was too hard to do...
      #gasBiased

    • @PsyTechnical
      @PsyTechnical 4 роки тому +18

      Both math and research are lacking at TFL especially when it comes to electrics.

  • @Arafaer
    @Arafaer 4 роки тому +95

    20:31, damn the cooling is working so damn hard to cool the Tesla xD Like a stationary PC on max settings in a high-end game

    • @thomashutson
      @thomashutson 3 роки тому +6

      Tesla cars always do that. Its the fan for the battery cooling system and the air-conditioning system.

  • @RobertJLessard
    @RobertJLessard 4 роки тому +480

    That suspension arm so close and right over top of the tire is rediculous

    • @no_alias_for_me
      @no_alias_for_me 4 роки тому +26

      Yeah what the heck is that all about?

    • @thespector8587
      @thespector8587 4 роки тому +31

      @@no_alias_for_me My first thought was to prevent customers from installing too big of tires that would mess with the aerodynamics and lowest air suspension settings of the car.....but then I remembered that it's a Tesla and Tesla just doesn't like customers alternating ANYTHING on the car so they go out of their way to make it as difficult as possible so you can only go through them to get anything done. It's about money.

    • @135iN55
      @135iN55 4 роки тому +5

      @@thespector8587
      All Tesla models have the same design flaw.

    • @thespector8587
      @thespector8587 4 роки тому +14

      @@135iN55 it's on purpose to reduce cost, but I'm 100% sure that they did it on the model X to prevent people form making modifications. Tesla did not think of falcon wings and airsuspension to then forget that customer may want bigger tires to go offroading. They're not that stupid.

    • @sidhucer00789
      @sidhucer00789 4 роки тому +6

      It's most likely because of the top speed. You cant safely hit the top speed with oversized tires

  • @MonsterSound
    @MonsterSound 4 роки тому +130

    Tesla battery pack has a three-layer shield designed to protect the battery and charging circuitry from being punctured even in very high speed impacts. The shielding features a hollow aluminum tube to deflect impacting objects, a titanium shield to protect sensitive components from puncture damage, and an aluminum extrusion to absorb impact energy. Wiki

    • @lilsammywasapunkrock
      @lilsammywasapunkrock 4 роки тому +7

      Thomas Paul def isn't flammable...

    • @gregandkaruna6674
      @gregandkaruna6674 4 роки тому +6

      @@thomaspaul2465 The problem is that the battery can catch on fire for no apparent reason, as seen on security videos, so no amount of protection from foreign objects will help in a thermal runaway.

    • @lilsammywasapunkrock
      @lilsammywasapunkrock 4 роки тому +14

      I hit a chunk of ice two winters ago. got out of the car and it smelled like gas. not only did it puncture the gas line, it also took out a brake line.
      that being said, with how fragile gasoline cars are, in well over 1 million miles and 16 years of driving, that's the closest I've come to an incident.
      and my gas tank sits low, low enough that I scrape it virtually every time I pull out of a low driveway. and I've honestly never had a gas tank puncture, and that is with really thin sheet metal that you can bend with a bare hand.
      now lithium batteries, although scary, habe onpy a fraction the power potential. the model s has the power equivalent of 2.6 gallons of gas.
      the whole cars catching fire thing was due to a model s hitting a trailer hitch in the road. it punctured one of 9 battery cells and the other groups did not spontaneously ignite either.
      that battery case saw over 15 tons of force leading up to its failure, and there was plenty of notice and no injury associated with it. and that was before they started armoring them just in case.

    • @gregandkaruna6674
      @gregandkaruna6674 4 роки тому +5

      @@thomaspaul2465 Just for the record my "EV" that we own has a perfect no fire ever even after 400,000 worldwide sales. There is even a UA-cam test done on one of its battery cells that was 100% charged then he stubbed it muiltble times with a screwdriver, and all that came out of that battery was smoke no fire, then he thought let's try a blow torch and burned the battery but the only part of the cell that caught on fire was the sealant used to join the cell pack together, and did it work after all that abuse? Yep it was retested and still produced a voltage and current.
      Would you care to try that same test on a Tesla battery pack?

    • @gregandkaruna6674
      @gregandkaruna6674 4 роки тому +3

      @@lilsammywasapunkrock So what caused the Tesla parked in the car park building to go up in flames? It most certainly did not have it's cells puntured, but by the sounds of it a build up of nasty dendrites caused a short and that was the end of that car!

  • @fixman88
    @fixman88 4 роки тому +178

    Teslas have a titanium plate under the battery to protect it from being punctured.

    • @unknownunknowns
      @unknownunknowns 4 роки тому +14

      Yes, but has it been tested? This is 5000 lbs of pressure! Think of the underside bouncing on a sharp rock.

    • @TheSpartan3669
      @TheSpartan3669 4 роки тому +3

      @Chris Hugman But that's a different kind of impact all together

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 4 роки тому +1

      @Chris Hugman
      And now after the cybrtruck debacle, would you trust that.

    • @deltacx1059
      @deltacx1059 4 роки тому +1

      @@Robert-cu9bm it's a titanium plate, certainly better than a steel undertray any day.

    • @johnnguyen3834
      @johnnguyen3834 3 роки тому +1

      @@deltacx1059 Titanium is lighter, but weaker than steel.

  • @rickymorales5524
    @rickymorales5524 4 роки тому +28

    That “Rocky Top” @ 22:02, reminded me of GTA V cutscene 😂

  • @dchawk81
    @dchawk81 4 роки тому +184

    Roman: 0mph
    Tommy: SLOWER!!
    😏

  • @BeaudoinEric
    @BeaudoinEric 4 роки тому +136

    Man that doesn’t even look a little like fun. I’d be sweating bullets the whole time.

    • @TheStwat
      @TheStwat 4 роки тому +11

      Roman certainly was. You could see the stress on his face.

    • @OuchMySpleen
      @OuchMySpleen 4 роки тому +6

      escpecially since if you just ding up a panel it will take months and months to fix...no thank you

    • @GodKing804
      @GodKing804 4 роки тому

      The poors are at it again.

    • @unknownunknowns
      @unknownunknowns 4 роки тому +1

      I think in the 18th minute of this video, they should have called it quits because you won’t always have another person guiding the driver.

  • @PD-we8vf
    @PD-we8vf 4 роки тому +107

    Dude grease those rollers on the 3 wheel test. That sound is like a chalkboard.

    • @John-ms6sd
      @John-ms6sd 4 роки тому +4

      I believe that sound is the brakes on the car.

    • @nekoroms
      @nekoroms 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah that was the sound of brake pads turning into traction

  • @hallkbrdz
    @hallkbrdz 4 роки тому +133

    I don't think the engineers that designed the Model X have ever been on a mountain road. To them off-road means a gravel driveway.

    • @okigojuryu
      @okigojuryu 4 роки тому +9

      @ I think the terminology for SUV kinda went to shit nowadays, technically this has more crossover DNA than SUV DNA, the VW is kinda in between crossover and SUV thanks to its unibody construction and more road focused running gear, and something like the HUMMER H3 being about as close to a modern SUV as you can get. (imo the only SUV true to what it started as long ago that you can buy new would be that SUV version of the Toyota Tacoma, the 4runner if I remember correctly.)

    • @ryantaylor3073
      @ryantaylor3073 4 роки тому +6

      @Sjors nope

    • @fernandorivas5059
      @fernandorivas5059 4 роки тому

      Sjors Tesla Truck yes not small cars.😒

    • @Kryojenix
      @Kryojenix 4 роки тому +1

      @Sjors you mean the Tesla Cybertruck triple motor is an off-roader

    • @Kryojenix
      @Kryojenix 4 роки тому

      @Sjors Tesla X and Y are SUVs not off-roaders. The Cybertruck has 1. much better ground clearance, 2. much lower approach and departure angles, 3. much more obviously off-road focused tyres - S and X have road tyres.

  • @mattsonmccraw6767
    @mattsonmccraw6767 4 роки тому +60

    There is a UA-cam channel, delta4x4, who put all terrain tires on a Model X. You should contact him and see how he did it.

    • @joelspaulding5964
      @joelspaulding5964 4 роки тому +13

      Go to tire shop, buy tires, have them installed?

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 4 роки тому +7

      @@joelspaulding5964 That would be too difficult to comprehend for some :)

    • @sladea19
      @sladea19 4 роки тому +1

      Mattson McCraw This is the reason I came to the comments, to see if someone had already posted this.

    • @bobverhoeven4149
      @bobverhoeven4149 4 роки тому

      channel enginiring explaned did put 18 inch tires on the tesla 3

    • @revwroth3698
      @revwroth3698 4 роки тому

      You shouldn't have more than 18 inch rims off the pavement anyways. Those rubber band tires with the oversized rims and undersized spokes are stupid.

  • @oisiaa
    @oisiaa 4 роки тому +53

    I didn't need this much stress on my Sunday morning!

  • @carssucksince1800s
    @carssucksince1800s 4 роки тому +78

    Those tires were definitely a limiting factor for a Tesla, it's amazing though how far it was able to go on those sliding tires.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 4 роки тому +4

      Agree beside the Touareg was also from factory with other tires so in this case if they want to compare these vehicles fair & square they should fit the Tesla X with about same tires at least otherwise is just unfair the whole comparison will be biased toward the old Touareg fitted with proper off-road tires..

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 4 роки тому +4

      In this clip TfL say they can not fit off-road tires on Tesla X well I found someone already did it (in Germany is a company specialized in rims & tires Delta wheels) :
      ua-cam.com/video/HB-3m6mrkP4/v-deo.html

    • @andrecarpy6890
      @andrecarpy6890 4 роки тому

      Pop Laurentiu they literally have gone up the same hill with stock tires fitted to the Touareg before

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 4 роки тому

      @@andrecarpy6890 How much that (SH)Touareg costed them ? they will push the crap out of the Touareg on every slope -up-hill off-road but when they took on Tesla X they were somehow much more careful not to touch the battery, not too slip & damage on sides/doors/body because the Tesla X is also much more heavier than Touareg) and they did not fitted the proper off-road tires to Tesla X and also they have mentioned they can not fit off-road tires on Tesla X.. well i prove they are wrong since i posted above the link that show a company that already fit the off-road wheels on a Tesla X, so yeah, a'muricans..

    • @andrecarpy6890
      @andrecarpy6890 4 роки тому +1

      Pop Laurentiu Pop Laurentiu well first of all, you can stop mentioning about how they didn’t use dedicated tires on the X since we know the Touareg can do it with street oriented tires. Second, the reason they had to baby the tesla so much was because it was so low, the Touareg had several inches more of ground clearance compared to the Tesla. So no, they’re not pushing “the crap out of the Touareg on every slope”, they just can’t drive the Tesla like the SUV it is marketed as. The only thing you’re doing is make up excuses for the Tesla at this point.

  • @jonhymarquez8166
    @jonhymarquez8166 4 роки тому +294

    “This week, we test the Ferrari 812 superfast on the rocky mountains and compare it with the Touareg”

    • @huwillysh
      @huwillysh 4 роки тому +38

      Model X and Touraeg are both advertised as SUVs, so what's the problem?

    • @PotBanginEejit
      @PotBanginEejit 4 роки тому +12

      Are all SUV's off-roaders?

    • @huwillysh
      @huwillysh 4 роки тому +31

      @@PotBanginEejit Wikipedia: Sport utility vehicle (SUV) is a category of motor vehicles that combine elements of road-going passenger cars with features from off-road vehicles, such as raised ground clearance and four-wheel drive.

    • @PotBanginEejit
      @PotBanginEejit 4 роки тому +4

      You didn't answer the question.

    • @jonhymarquez8166
      @jonhymarquez8166 4 роки тому +9

      Willy Hu I think they are SAV’S, Sports Activity Vehicle, a category that the BMW X5 invented, but not proper off roaders

  • @tfishr
    @tfishr 4 роки тому +75

    Low ground clearance and low-profile tires suck all the fun out of offroading. It might be easier to convert the Toureg to EV than it would be to make the Model X offroad-worthy.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 4 роки тому +4

      For sure. Though 4WD tesla swap might be difficult (though the A6 guy did it), a Teslaswap in itself is quite straight forward once you figure out where to put enough batteries.

    • @karenmarieh.j.3842
      @karenmarieh.j.3842 4 роки тому +2

      Why not just convert a... used 1998 jeep grand Cherokee or maybe a F150 or even a 4 door Tacoma ....

  • @kensterpotts
    @kensterpotts 4 роки тому +47

    You guys had me on the edge of my seat watching it go over some of those rocks. It’ll be a challenge making it a properly capable off-roader, but a fun one that is! can’t wait.

  • @tyrereviews
    @tyrereviews 3 роки тому +13

    As always, love the videos an great details on the tires :) Did you ever find anything for this?

  • @zohaib876
    @zohaib876 4 роки тому

    Excellent video. Love the effort, energy & passion with TFL. You guys rock!

  • @Iheartcarsxb
    @Iheartcarsxb 4 роки тому +152

    I would love to see what the jaguar I-pace is like off road.

    • @Mooshimoca
      @Mooshimoca 4 роки тому +11

      So long as it's got higher suspension and has off road wheels then I'd say it'll be easy

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  4 роки тому +11

      Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/KISOPE5hA4w/v-deo.html

    • @AJ6spd
      @AJ6spd 4 роки тому +8

      You're gonna get engine check light

    • @Mooshimoca
      @Mooshimoca 4 роки тому +10

      @@TFLcar wasnt much of an off road test

    • @Al13n1nV8D3R
      @Al13n1nV8D3R 4 роки тому +7

      I want to see a Lambo Urus off road!

  • @rogerheuckeroth7456
    @rogerheuckeroth7456 4 роки тому +58

    If it fits in your budget, would love to see you guys test out a Rivian when they become available. Seams like the one motor per wheel design on the Rivian could provide the perfect AWD system where you're not relying on limited slip differential or braking the spinning wheels.

    • @motobator1895
      @motobator1895 4 роки тому +1

      Roger Heuckeroth yeah should wait for the truck & is supposed to be cheaper.

    • @jeremysmith9868
      @jeremysmith9868 4 роки тому +3

      Roger Heuckeroth Andrea just reviewed the Bolinger. Can we see one of those on TFL Off-road?

    • @guyod1
      @guyod1 4 роки тому

      Save your money and get one of these. Although I have been hearing about them for what feels like forever and they are still not for sale.

    • @Chilukar
      @Chilukar 4 роки тому +1

      @@guyod1 to be fair they announced the product less than a year ago and they are supposed to start deliveries next year.
      I get the same when I see a vehicle that I'd love to see on the market, I have to remind myself to be patient.

    • @worldtravel101
      @worldtravel101 4 роки тому +2

      I'm kind of curious what those will do when they come out. I live about a 1/2 hour from that plant.

  • @ExBenzi2
    @ExBenzi2 4 роки тому +3

    Great video guys!
    Was very interesting to watch the Model X off-roading...

  • @ASTMA193
    @ASTMA193 4 роки тому

    Great series, guys. Really enjoying the adventure X videos. Thanks

  • @mrdylanjoseph
    @mrdylanjoseph 4 роки тому +65

    Let's be real, nobody ever really intended for these things to go off road. Even 4Runners and Jeeps are hardly ever off road lol

    • @drink15
      @drink15 4 роки тому +24

      True, but it's cool to see if it can.

    • @caedom21
      @caedom21 4 роки тому +5

      “I don’t care what it was designed to do, I care what it can do...” .... which movie did this come from? 😏

    • @Mr_Chris77
      @Mr_Chris77 4 роки тому +4

      @@caedom21 Apollo 13.

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 4 роки тому +4

      mrdylanjoseph same with VW Beetles but people still made Baja Bugs out of them.

    • @1wasinAlpha
      @1wasinAlpha 4 роки тому +4

      SUV is suppose to be able to go off-road!!!! SUV

  • @digidandan
    @digidandan 4 роки тому +20

    Yes you can get an AT tires 255/50/19. Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus 255/55 R19. At least you can buy they in Europe. You can also find General Grabber AT3 in exact size you are looking for

    • @tyrrellroach5872
      @tyrrellroach5872 4 роки тому +1

      Daniel looking on tire rake I did not see one all terrain tire in the 255/50 r 19 they were all sport truck tires or all seasons even the general grapplers were a all season

    • @ThePegcitydude
      @ThePegcitydude 4 роки тому +2

      Daniel you’re an idiot. You just proved yourself wrong in that comment. 55 profile is bigger than 50 sence there being NOOOO 255/50/R19 off road tires.

    • @digidandan
      @digidandan 4 роки тому +1

      Tyrrell Roach General Grabber AT3 is indeed all season tyre, but as well AT - All Terrain tyre.

    • @kenoday7562
      @kenoday7562 4 роки тому +1

      Wouldn't matter. The available stock 265/50R19 inch tire has a weight rating of 110, the 255/50R19s are only rated at 107, making them technically 3 sizes too small. 255/55R19s would have the necessary weight rating but are 1/2 inch taller, bringing the tire 1/4 inch closer to the spindle.

  • @fredbergeron7997
    @fredbergeron7997 4 роки тому

    I love all your reviews, especially the honesty. Keep it up!

  • @gerrycrisostomo6571
    @gerrycrisostomo6571 4 роки тому +18

    In an off-road situation, momentum is very important. You've got to keep the speed up to sort of ease your way through loose dirt especially if you're going uphill. There were times when the Model X could have done it easily if not for that dude who always cry "STOP" right on the spot where the obstacle is and trying to make the X crawl as slow as possible so it would actually depend upon the grip of the "on-road or street" tires. Of course it would slip because the tires were not made for that kind of ride. It was as if he was deliberately trying to get the Model X stuck when it could have been a piece of cake if it had the momentum.

    • @lolbuster01
      @lolbuster01 4 роки тому +2

      To be fair, last time they broke a Tesla it took them months to get it back, I would be careful too.

    • @TroySavary
      @TroySavary 4 роки тому +4

      With no clearance, you cannot go fast enough to use momentum. It was mm away from scraping many times. If he had gone any faster, suspension bounce would have made him bottom out.

    • @revwroth3698
      @revwroth3698 4 роки тому

      The whole vehicle wasn't made for this kind of ride. That's why it pisses off people who actually use their suvs.

  • @unlogical2188
    @unlogical2188 4 роки тому +28

    it's a good thing you didn't damage your model x
    like Bjorn nyland's 10k in damages from offroading his founders edition model x

  • @7supersnake7
    @7supersnake7 4 роки тому +54

    You guys make the BEST off road test videos! I would love to see a Volvo take the slip test!

    • @lbnewell23
      @lbnewell23 4 роки тому +8

      I mean a Volvo up this trial would be nice too

    • @7supersnake7
      @7supersnake7 4 роки тому +1

      @@lbnewell23 I totally agree!! I hope we will see one soon!

    • @gerrycrisostomo6571
      @gerrycrisostomo6571 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah and don't forget the Jaguar I-Pace too. That would be so nice and interesting!

    • @JamesRussoMillas
      @JamesRussoMillas 4 роки тому +3

      1st gen xc90 anyone??

    • @777Outrigger
      @777Outrigger 4 роки тому

      @@JamesRussoMillas - 1st gen XC90 has 8.9 inches of clearance, just .2 inches more than the Model X. But I've had my 2006 XC90 off-road on the old logging trails above Buena Vista, Colorado, and some of that was very tough, and I was sweating bullets, but we made it. My plan is to buy the all-electric XC90 due out in 2 years. Expecting about $80,000+ before tax credits, but I've had my old XC90 for a long time now.

  • @justgrayyy105
    @justgrayyy105 4 роки тому +1

    Since this thing is white, it needs a Light Green and Gray Camo Wrap!! It’ll look so badass and it’ll complete the overland look.

  • @eldridish
    @eldridish 4 роки тому +28

    I understand what you guys are trying to accomplish here, but the difference in tires makes a massive difference in offroad traction. At the end of the day, the Tesla got through the obstacles, on all-season tires, commendable...

  • @mattlimberg5763
    @mattlimberg5763 4 роки тому +58

    So...portal axles to add ground clearance and tire clearance?

    • @alterbr33d
      @alterbr33d 4 роки тому +3

      The all electric Bollinger B1 will have portal axles www.trucktrend.com/news/1703-video-bollinger-motors-ev-truck-will-have-portal-axles

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra 4 роки тому +1

      @@alterbr33d but this thing is years away. They haven't even figured out the mass production 🙄

    • @alterbr33d
      @alterbr33d 4 роки тому +1

      @@RubenKelevra They plan on starting production in the second half of 2020 assuming they get everything together. www.autonews.com/cars-concepts/bollinger-motors-gets-settled-detroit

  • @USUG0
    @USUG0 4 роки тому +36

    it looks like they engineered the suspension on purpose. To avoid customers being tempted to make aftermarket modifications.

    • @AbzAden
      @AbzAden 4 роки тому

      D.O.A. Apple is about to get the game too lol

    • @rx7racerca
      @rx7racerca 4 роки тому +12

      It’s not about preventing mods, it’s just creating good geometry in a multi-link front. It allows optimizing caster, camber, and steering axis over a wider range of compression, extension, and steering angles - great for a premium sedan/sports car - on pavement. Like a lot of strut suspensions also, the drawback is close clearances that don’t allow much in the way of wider, or in this case taller tires.

    • @phamnuwen9442
      @phamnuwen9442 4 роки тому

      The Freemasons run the country...

    • @jackwsandoz
      @jackwsandoz 4 роки тому +3

      I think @@rx7racerca nailed it. Avoiding aftermarket wouldn't really make sense but designing the X for offroad, would really diminish the on-road characteristics that the vast majority of its demographic is looking for.

    • @USUG0
      @USUG0 4 роки тому +3

      @@rx7racerca pretty sure it could have been done without the piece hanging an inch over the tire

  • @greenyojo7thstGOAT
    @greenyojo7thstGOAT 4 роки тому +4

    I like the “verry high” setting lol

  • @boostedmaniac
    @boostedmaniac 4 роки тому

    Thanks for posting. Great video.

  • @no_alias_for_me
    @no_alias_for_me 4 роки тому +16

    Well "SUV" has lost its true meaning a long time ago so I wouldn't actually see every SUV as an Off-Road wonder at all. SUV these days are mainly meant for bigger storage, many seats and at the same time mild Off-Road capabilities so it can actually drive in mud and dirt roads. Although there are many SUVs which are actually not providing that much more storage, looking at you, "SUV Coupés", which is an abomination by itself. The Model X is definitely not made for actual offroading, I'd get a Wrangler for that.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 4 роки тому +3

      to be fair, the X is more of a crossover than a SUV given that it's based on the Model S

    • @itechiwizard83
      @itechiwizard83 4 роки тому +1

      @@cpufreak101 It's not just based on Model S. It's a bigger Model S.

    • @lolbuster01
      @lolbuster01 4 роки тому

      @@cpufreak101 Elon needs to learn to use the correct words. Modern SUVs are often a shadow of what they can be the same way that fwd station wagons are to thier older models.

  • @RoyTheKing241
    @RoyTheKing241 4 роки тому +71

    You guys are killing it with content!

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the kind comment. Really appreciate it!

  • @beebeequail
    @beebeequail 4 роки тому +13

    Congratulations! You’ve just successfully voided your warranty!

    • @thomashutson
      @thomashutson 3 роки тому +1

      @Chris Ruiz Honestly Tesla means a straight up dirt road with the exception of a few medium small rocks. The car wasn't designed to go offloading and so they can get a void on their warranty because they were doing something that the car really shouldn't do.

  • @mikeo.4203
    @mikeo.4203 4 роки тому +1

    Love this series! I hope the folks over at tesla get to see this! I'm sure even they would be impressed.

  • @foellerd
    @foellerd 4 роки тому +8

    Put some massive offsets on the tires and just replace wheel bearings more frequently. Maybe 2 or 3 inch offset. Maybe that would solve the tie rod end clearance issue.

    • @thelongdaysofwheeling124
      @thelongdaysofwheeling124 4 роки тому +1

      Any idea what a set of wheel bearings for an X will cost? That's a scary thought. lol

    • @nehlstay
      @nehlstay 4 роки тому

      X2 offsets

  • @Mcmerc01
    @Mcmerc01 4 роки тому +66

    Cool Vid Guys
    You should hit up Rich Rebuilds for some mods, I think he took apart the battery pack, and the bottom case was some pretty thick metal

    • @Julian-do7bv
      @Julian-do7bv 4 роки тому +9

      I thought it was pretty thick too

    • @phamnuwen9442
      @phamnuwen9442 4 роки тому +17

      As far as I'm aware there's already a titanium plate protecting the battery.

    • @thelongdaysofwheeling124
      @thelongdaysofwheeling124 4 роки тому +9

      @@phamnuwen9442 All Teslas have a titanium plate protecting the battery. Can you imagine spending almost a 100 Grand on a vehicle to go off roading and not doing an ounce of research. And on your first trip out be like... oh shit.

    • @AndrewPiercy
      @AndrewPiercy 4 роки тому +7

      Ya in the early 2010’s after a couple people ran over cinder blocks on the freeway in their model S’s and caused fires Tesla wanted to make sure that wasn’t going to happen anymore. Putting skid plates on it would be like wrapping a rock in aluminum foil at this point.

    • @Tjspycorp
      @Tjspycorp 4 роки тому +1

      Andrew Piercy well said lol

  • @Softbauch
    @Softbauch 4 роки тому +11

    And my Lada Niva sits, laughing at the top :D But well done tesla. gj guys, nice video!

  • @jasonarsenault1550
    @jasonarsenault1550 4 роки тому

    You guys are absolutely crazy driving the Model X off-road. You don't want that Model X in the shop for 6 months or longer. Thumbs up for the entertainment.

  • @Banner1986
    @Banner1986 4 роки тому +17

    That was friggin TERRIFYING! I didnt even feel like you guys were trying to play up the suspense at all, I just saw what was happening with that 90k techno gizmo and my heart completely SANK. Good on TFL for having the guts to try it out - one of the many reason I try to make sure I visit each of the TFL channels every other day or so

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching. We really appreciate it!!!!

  • @sekopiski
    @sekopiski 4 роки тому +10

    If you cant find off road tires you could try some 255/50 19 winter tires.
    Some of them have a pretty aggressive tread pattern. Nokian Weatherproof SUV for example.

    • @thelongdaysofwheeling124
      @thelongdaysofwheeling124 4 роки тому +1

      They need sidewall protection or they're gonna cut tires like a mofo.

    • @spencerali1659
      @spencerali1659 4 роки тому

      That's exactly what I was thinking. Get the most chunky 19" snow tires you can find

    • @nissantech8857
      @nissantech8857 4 роки тому

      Then stud them😁

  • @uTubed007
    @uTubed007 4 роки тому

    Nice music you added there in the making/editing of this video!

  • @danperson1
    @danperson1 4 роки тому

    Great video, well done!

  • @codys2747
    @codys2747 4 роки тому +58

    i could done this in a 93 geo metro...

    • @nehlstay
      @nehlstay 4 роки тому +5

      cody s i have done rocky top and I can tell you with absolute certainty that a geo metro would never make it. That is, unless, you mount a geo metro body (even though it is a unibody) on a mid90’s blazer frame (seen it done). You need 4x4 and ground clearance to run this trail.

    • @kenoday7562
      @kenoday7562 4 роки тому +5

      I'll bet you could ... if it was being DRAGGED to the top by a 3/4 ton pickup. Not sure what would be left of it at the top ...

    • @codys2747
      @codys2747 4 роки тому +3

      @@kenoday7562 or u just don't know how drive. There nothing hard about this road

    • @kclefthanded427
      @kclefthanded427 4 роки тому +5

      Go for it, put that theory to the test

    • @lumpskie
      @lumpskie 4 роки тому +4

      I did that trail with my rental... I think the metro would make it. It had better clearance and more suspension travel. And you don't need 4 wheel drive for that one.

  • @cruzlopez4449
    @cruzlopez4449 4 роки тому +5

    I found two 255/55-19 all terrains, Tommy. The Continental TerrainContact A/T and Cooper Zeon LTZ.

    • @fredbrackely
      @fredbrackely 4 роки тому

      Yep the same same size tire that comes with the LR4, so it will probably fit the X

  • @camjo_io
    @camjo_io 4 роки тому +11

    I wonder if it’s possible to raise the suspension. I know people have lowered the model 3

    • @thomashutson
      @thomashutson 3 роки тому +2

      The model 3 doesn't have air suspension it has a ordinary spring set up. Thats how people are able to lower the model 3.

  • @ahmedatot
    @ahmedatot 4 роки тому

    Never seen such tests!! Good efforts guys👍

  • @chrism999
    @chrism999 4 роки тому +27

    With the suspension arm setup as it is it'll be impossible to ever fit decent tyres hopefully 2nd gen model xs get a revised setup

    • @technom3598
      @technom3598 4 роки тому +2

      there are nonplans for a 2nd gen model x

    • @martialman.4563
      @martialman.4563 4 роки тому

      Just get a Rivian or ICE vehicle are the only options.

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 4 роки тому +3

      Wondering if anyone has developed a suspension modification yet that will allow larger tires.

    • @jackwsandoz
      @jackwsandoz 4 роки тому +2

      I really dont know that the X will ever have much of an offroad aftermarket. I mean someone will assuredly throw something together, but I just dont think there'd be a market out there for it. Personally I'd only pay those big bucks for something designed to kickass offroad, but doing that with an X would really take away from its on-road capabilities that its demographic is interested in.

    • @phamnuwen9442
      @phamnuwen9442 4 роки тому +5

      Tesla pickup is in the works.

  • @EdwardTheAussie
    @EdwardTheAussie 4 роки тому +3

    I've been really looking forward to this video cause you would think because of the Instant torque they would be brilliant for it.

  • @joelarson6884
    @joelarson6884 4 роки тому

    The most unbelievable thing is that very car is capable of going up that terrain all while being able to dart from 0-60 in 2.7 seconds! Unheard of versatility!

  • @MrAlex-lk8zn
    @MrAlex-lk8zn 4 роки тому

    I’ve been looking forward for this

  • @roybiggins3885
    @roybiggins3885 4 роки тому +8

    Video would be much more entertaining if they just floored the tesla amd did a speed rum to the top. They can call it a durability test 😎

  • @UncommonManFromEarth
    @UncommonManFromEarth 4 роки тому +7

    Well you really don't want to hit that battery pack on a rock. Unless you want to start a barbecue 😂

  • @xjeeper
    @xjeeper 4 роки тому +2

    Interresting to see how effortless the car can handle the terrain, thats the beginning... when there is a dedicated offroader bev the days of dinosaur-burning v8's are over.

    • @lolbuster01
      @lolbuster01 4 роки тому

      I sincerely doubt it will happen like that. People have been calling the v8's death since the 1980s. They are too reliable and well built. Plus Ford just released a 7.3L na gasser and Chevy is going for a 6.6 gasser as well. Pushrod V8s are just too simple and reliable to die in America.

  • @moshe778950101
    @moshe778950101 4 роки тому +1

    The bottom of the battery pack is made of several layers of thick steel sheets. For safety reasons.
    It is much stronger than most gas cars bottoms. The hole car can easily be suspended from a single sharp rock without any damages, to the car.
    You can see that in various videos where the battery pack gets disassembled.

    • @unknownunknowns
      @unknownunknowns 4 роки тому

      But has it been tested when it is being punctured? I am talking about the whole vehicle’s underside being punctured rapidly.

    • @moshe778950101
      @moshe778950101 4 роки тому

      ​@@unknownunknowns They tested the car under-body for piercing tests against objects like concrete blocks, and steel parts without any damage. according to my estimates, the battery packs bottom made of at least 15mm thick toughened steel plate. This is enough to stop a 7.62 armor piercing rifle bullet..

    • @unknownunknowns
      @unknownunknowns 4 роки тому

      8SharkTV Moshe How many lbs per square inch? And what video can I see them testing it? It looks like Tesla should drop their whole vehicles from, say, five stories high and land it on a sharp object of steel or rock.

  • @michaeljmobley
    @michaeljmobley 4 роки тому +5

    The Rivian will be amazing for this kind of stuff. Can't wait to see it out on the road. And obviously the Tesla truck as well whenever that comes to fruition.

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill 4 роки тому +12

    Mother of God! I need a nap! That was *so* nerve-wracking to watch! Scared the hell out of me several times! *whew*

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 4 роки тому

    I kept thinking,..." you guys have to go DOWN that hill soon." then you answered this too.
    This was a 'clincher' for sure,..but enjoyable,... from my office chair!

  • @approx01
    @approx01 4 роки тому

    I must say, I am so glad you guys are doing real world tests like this in an "offroad capable" electric vehicle. This gives a real indication of what is to come when these new electric trucks starting hitting the road(trails?)

  • @XinoMbr
    @XinoMbr 4 роки тому +11

    Why don you put the same tesla wheels on touareg and see if the traction will work as good as the model X?

    • @HydraliskX
      @HydraliskX 4 роки тому +5

      These guys have a habit of not making things fair. Then they explain it as if that justifies it somehow.

    • @jasonstewart764
      @jasonstewart764 4 роки тому +1

      They also did the test with the factory street tires on the Toureg and explained in detail why you can't get better off road tires on the Telsa and why. What more do you need? It wasn't a test of tires, it was a test of what the Telsa could and since there aren't off road tires for it that was the limiting factor.

  • @rp3518
    @rp3518 4 роки тому +3

    id love to see you guys try to get and early look at the off road performance of rivian. if its good, I'm sure they'd want you to look at it

  • @nycgags
    @nycgags 4 роки тому +1

    did you air down or attempt it at 45 psi (standard psi for my Model S)?

  • @Jamby7
    @Jamby7 4 роки тому +2

    If they could rebuild the suspension system with a better lift for ground and tire clearance... they'd be in business!

  • @k7gixxer1000
    @k7gixxer1000 4 роки тому +3

    Tommy: Hey Pops, I bought a classic Rolls Royce
    Roman: Let's put some knobby tires on it and see how well it off roads!
    Tommy: Good Idea!

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 4 роки тому +3

    I need (would love) to see you do this type of stuff with a first or second generation honda CRV, that's basically a honda civic with awd. Plus if you accidentally hit that you won't have a serious bill.

  • @172turtla
    @172turtla 4 роки тому +1

    You have the same set up we have, my wife has a Touareg and I have a new Model X Long Range. She will set up her car like you have done with your Touareg. The Model X is the most comfortable and easy driving road car we've owned, we traded in a Model S when we bought it. I too am disappointed that I can't be more off road capable, I am look forward to see how you do yours.

  • @MrVolodus
    @MrVolodus 4 роки тому

    This is crazy :D
    I would be afraid to go over some bumpers in city and here you are, in forest:D

  • @johnmiller7682
    @johnmiller7682 4 роки тому +4

    Man, you guys love that VW. Any excuse to get it out there, I love it!

  • @164sven
    @164sven 4 роки тому +8

    Every Tesla video on youtube '' The Torque is great and it has lots of power because of the electric motors''.. Yes we know, knew it 40 video's ago!

  • @Supaswol
    @Supaswol 4 роки тому +1

    Oh god, keep tommy away from those building walls. They tend to move into tail lights. 🤣

  • @mattbiallas
    @mattbiallas 4 роки тому

    Has anyone else noticed that Tommy's presenting skills have really come a long way? At first he seemed nervous and uncomfortable but now he has really gotten good at what he does. Well done!

  • @djhvideo
    @djhvideo 4 роки тому +42

    You should have watched Bjorn Nyland's attempt at offroading before embarking on this video

    • @scottleggejr
      @scottleggejr 3 роки тому

      Who? Why would I subscribe to that? He only does tesla stuff, I want to see all of the cars and compared to each other!

    • @djhvideo
      @djhvideo 3 роки тому

      @@scottleggejr You must have never watched his channel. He is obviously a Tesla "fanboy" as he has owned 4 Teslas but his in-depth reports and tests of just about every electric car is necessary viewing for anyone about to buy their first EV. He has compiled downloadable spreadsheets of data on every car he has tested.

    • @scottleggejr
      @scottleggejr 3 роки тому

      @@djhvideo I don't find tesla to be interesting in the slightest. The business model is to turn cars in to appliances, like dishwashers. I don't have a fascination with dishwashers. I want to hack and play and tune. Tesla is the apple laptop for overclockers. No thank you. There's better, faster, cheaper, more reliable, longer running platforms out there.

    • @djhvideo
      @djhvideo 3 роки тому

      @@scottleggejr The point I am making. Just today Bjorn has done a preliminary report on the new Polestar which I admit he does compare with a Model 3. Anyone testing a new car will compare it with what they are driving now. The reason I mentioned Bjorn Nyland in the first place was that he did some expensive damage to his car offroading which Tesla refused to repair under warranty partly because they saw on UA-cam how the damage was caused.

  • @ericdolby1622
    @ericdolby1622 4 роки тому +12

    Maybe once. I hope there is a charger and a repair tech at the top. Lol

  • @luckymefpv
    @luckymefpv 3 роки тому

    Did you guys have any issues with the 17” canyons on the Touareg with 330mm rotors? I got my wheels balanced and the weights are rubbing up against my front calipers. Are you using any spacers at all or did you balance them differently? Thank you

  • @parthmehndiratta3831
    @parthmehndiratta3831 Рік тому

    Even the dog was like how are you so dumb 😂😂😂 get a frickin jeep or any truck out there or a rav4 or anything and you'll be so much better off

  • @MrGtronx
    @MrGtronx 4 роки тому +13

    don't try overlanding the Model X...wait for the upcoming Tesla Pick up truck... my 2 cents

  • @koton_bads
    @koton_bads 4 роки тому +4

    That suspension arm
    Now seeing that closely, it is the tie rod lol

    • @koton_bads
      @koton_bads 4 роки тому +1

      Is that also called the control arms? I think. The upper and lower control arms

    • @rmoore07
      @rmoore07 4 роки тому +2

      @@koton_bads It's the upper control arm. The tie rod is down lower on the Model X & S.

  • @Braselton21
    @Braselton21 4 роки тому +1

    Can't wait until TFL gets their greasy hands on a Rivian Truck😍

  • @furknee06
    @furknee06 4 роки тому

    You guys are aweosome thank you for that video

  • @XinoMbr
    @XinoMbr 4 роки тому +3

    20:42 i'm hearing some desperated colling system working

  • @mtnman1984
    @mtnman1984 4 роки тому +17

    Today, we take a car based sports luxury crossover on an off road trail. 🤷‍♂️

    • @PD-we8vf
      @PD-we8vf 4 роки тому +1

      mtnman1984 dude. Do you even know what crossover comes from?

    • @w8uejeoeoq9qkw68
      @w8uejeoeoq9qkw68 4 роки тому +3

      @Pedro Henrique At 4x the price it better

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 4 роки тому +1

      R P Yes. They are jacked up hatchbacks and station wagons.

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 4 роки тому

      Oof Nibbingson Jagologogogog At four times the price of a Touareg? It’s not built to compete with it. Good lord.

    • @w8uejeoeoq9qkw68
      @w8uejeoeoq9qkw68 4 роки тому +2

      @@mtnman1984 I'm talking to the guy who was comparing a rolls with a tesla model x

  • @d1nzfe
    @d1nzfe 4 роки тому

    Really love what you guys are doing.

  • @mellored
    @mellored 4 роки тому

    I know Rivan is setting their truck up for off-roading. 400 miles range, higher ride height, 4 independent motors for true 4 wheel drive, possibly some other things. Defiantly give that a review when it comes out.

  • @WANDERER0070
    @WANDERER0070 4 роки тому +4

    I wonder how much mpg it got going downhill on REgen
    Btw Tesla has titanium plate protection underneath
    It shouldnt break under slow crawl like that,,
    Still I d wait for Tesla truck to do off roading

  • @emi123nem
    @emi123nem 4 роки тому +3

    I’m curious how you plan to make that an overland rig with no rooftop storage options with those wing doors and glass roof

    • @LlyleHunter
      @LlyleHunter 4 роки тому +1

      Tremendous danger of being trapped inside in case of a rollover as well.

  • @scdi12
    @scdi12 4 роки тому

    I grew up on a farm. Drove 2 wheel drive pick-ups, cars through mud and dirt. Learned how to avoid getting stuck. The idea is to avoid dangerous terrain unless you're in the military.

  • @simonr8387
    @simonr8387 4 роки тому +7

    I love that he wears a Polizei-Shirt.
    Any germans here watching this?

  • @lenardgor
    @lenardgor 4 роки тому +17

    The real question is, can you go slower?

    • @zero2sixty244
      @zero2sixty244 4 роки тому

      lenard ggor son’s pretty annoying lol

  • @mmiller1188
    @mmiller1188 4 роки тому +1

    I'm willing to bet if you went with a skinny wheel, with really low backspacing (maybe 3 or 4''), you would be able to get a taller tire on that would clear the base of the strut tower.
    I could see a 17x7 with lower backspacing clearing the strut tower along with a skinnier tire. I believe those have 8.5'' wide wheels. Not sure about caliper clearance , though, but steel wheels are usually thinner and can clear calipers better

  • @muclman327
    @muclman327 4 роки тому

    That guy giving direction would have pissed me off 😂😂

  • @radamesrhines7238
    @radamesrhines7238 4 роки тому +3

    Sooo, It made it up the trail! on street tires with less ground clearance than the VW, that has more ground clearance and all terrains and you two are still skeptical. And no! It was not designed to be a true off road vehicle but it did what a lot of off road vehicles can't do. I'm an oilfield worker and our work trucks get stuck quite often, and you can puncture a off road tire just as easy as a street tire. Give credit where it's due, like it or not, Tesla's keep impressing! Besides tht it's an American company! We should all be supportive!

    • @JeanPierreWhite
      @JeanPierreWhite 4 роки тому

      Excellent comment. Yes folks, this is an American company, let's give them as much help as we can!!

    • @Cars-N-Jets
      @Cars-N-Jets 4 роки тому

      Radames Rhines I Agree

  • @deejay2793
    @deejay2793 4 роки тому +3

    This made me love my Jeep that much more.

  • @dlwatib
    @dlwatib 4 роки тому

    Congratulations! No Model X was harmed in the filming of this event.
    Less road clearance = more adventure, or at least more adrenaline rush.
    Can a Model X offroad? Only in a zombie apocalypse.

  • @gwarlow
    @gwarlow 4 роки тому

    I am reminded of the quote from the movie, Forest Gump: "Stupid is, as stupid does". Next video please.