This scene makes me love the Leo McGarry character, that despite what a employee did that was impacting him personally, he still gave her a second chance..
Gawwwwwwd, how many times have seen this scene?!?!? And every time, he does the same thing! "But I can't help thinking it wasn't a little bit _brave._ "
It is intelligent writing. This was pure feminism. You'll note, the female NEVER APOLOGIZES to the male. Ever. She is not sorry for what she did AND there are no consequences that the female will face for her inability to keep this information confidential. They never shake hands. And she still sees him the way she looks at her father, with disgust. But the cardinal virtue is achieved: a total lack of accountability for women while trying to ruin the patriarchal male in a power position which is sacred to the left's favorite, fictional, political fantasy.
This is.Powerful scene and it gives a great backstory to Leo in the first season, the way that half of his face is in the shadows reveals that he’s still struggling with his inner demons..and the way he handles this situation by wanting to meet her and learn why she did what she did and the reasoning behind it, makes him the type of Leader that you want to work for,
A principled whistleblower cannot by definition be a true Karen. But we neevr see her again because as soon as she left the room she got stabbed in the neck by Margaret.
Been sober for 12 plus years....Immensely Thankful Everyday! I personally do not like the play on words for the Title of this video. But no matter....still a powerful scene with many messages. I have always wondered how Sam would have reacted once he found out that Miss Larson was rehired by Leo. We don't generally see Sam lose his cool but he was hot under the collar at the very beginning! Cheers Everyone 👋
Sam likely would have followed Leo's lead. Just like when he went off on the two guys harassing Ainsley, Sam was acting out of a sense of justice and a desire to protect people he respected/cared about. My bet is that once Leo had made it clear he was 'still standing' and willing to forgive her, that would have implicitly told Sam that Leo was 'safe' and didn't need someone to stand for him, and he would have been right there with him.
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers Plus I'm sure Leo sat Sam down and explained why she did what she did. Sam understands a sense of justice and in her mind, she was protecting her country. I think Sam would get that. Not saying they were friends, but I'm sure he was cordial with her. Same for Leo.
The late great John Spencer. Sadly died before The West Wing concluded. They wrote John's untimely death into the show as Leo McGarry's untimely passing as well.
Astonishing and hauntingly beautiful considering Spencer was an actual recovered alcoholic. I don't think anyone else could have spoken about this so honestly and humanely. We lost a great actor and human when he passed.
As the man himself would say; "Act as if ye have faith, and faith shall be given to you." Thanks for doing better! Old post: One of the best moments of the show, and you title it like a unfunny third tier meme? You can do better.
They could not have picked a better actor to play Leo. God, this show made me proud of our government, once ... guess I'm still proud of our system overall. The people cannot be fooled all of the time.
This was so good. As someone who had family members who were addicts, Leo does such good of explaining what it means to be an addict and Karen still doesn't get it because unless you are an addict, you probably wouldn't understand.
I like this scene explaining why, it was too alert and inform not to gossip and speculate. There's a lesson there, watch for it in real life. Assuming it matters anymore...
After starting Ozempic I think I understand Leo now. I've tried dieting for 45 years. It's never worked. The NEED for food is too strong. Once I started Ozempic and the need went away now I can make better choices. It's made me much more understanding of all sorts of addicts now. Only people who don't have the need think it's about will power.
I can't speak to the alcoholism but as a diabetic it is the same way with sugar. I can't have just one Whopper or some such. It's a huge handful. But then, that isn't enough. Before long, I've finished the whole box and moved on to the two pound bag of peanut M&Ms. After that, I'm raiding the pantry for anything else that's sweet and I keep going till I pass out. There's just no stopping the compulsion once I start so the only thing I can do is make sure to never start. That's doubly hard when the wife keeps it around.
And now we have a likely alcoholic (and worse) about to be named to head up our Department of Defense! This lovely Leo scene seems so quaint now, with the perspective of time.
The "incredible" John Spencer, ..... Such a TELENTED actor, taken from us too damn early ... Like John Amos, another FINE actor (Admiral Fitz Wallace) R.I.P.
I've seen this brilliant scene at least 2 dozen times and I love it -- the writing, Spencer's acting -- but I've just noticed a continuity inconsistency that negates Leo's statement that he hadn't had a drink or a pill in 6 years. In a later season we see the flashback of the first time Jed passes out during campaign prep. Leo is away, meeting with big money donors and he ends up having some Johnny Walker Blue Label Whisky & going on a bit of a solo bender. As Bartlet is, when this scene occurs, in the middle of his first term, it's not possible for that flashback to have been 6 years earlier. It doesn't matter or make this scene any less wonderful. It just shows (and having written a lot of TV, I know this first hand) that as a series progresses, timeline inconsistencies occur. None of that diminishes its greatness. Just fun, as a West Wing nerd, to notice.
Despite her name being Karen, you describe her "as a Karen". In the scene she describes the reason for her actions and they reason with each other, work it out and he describes her as "brave". Well done to this channel administrator for jumping on the "karen' bandwagon just to get hits. #slowclap
Of course, common sense would inform you that they didn't mean it like that but in the sense that everyone needs *this* sort of person. So "slow hand clap" right back at ya! 🤦♂🤷♂
Btw, she is Lisa Weil, who played Paris Geller (Rory's nemesis and later friend in Gilmore Girls) - ironically she also played a White House aide in the show Scandal.
Something I just noticed. He said he hasn’t had a drink in six and half years. But later we find out he did drink during the end of the first campaign. The six years is what everyone publicly knew and only a few knew about the relapse. Maybe this is just something the writers forgot or ignored for the story where that was revealed. I wonder how many other times he said it was six years before they decided to change it.
This is a good scene, and a great character moment for Leo, but the fact is that no one in the White House would ever trust her again. She'd never handle another sensitive document. What is the point of sending her back to work?
Leo was chief of staff. Just like with Ainsley, the others would just have to get over it. Especially in the WH constructed the way it was, the others would fall in line. She may not have got a theater performance though.
Ironically, Lisa Weil (the actress who is best known for playing Paris Geller - Rory's nemesis and later friend in Gilmore Girls) would later play a White House aide in the show Scandal.
Leo won her loyalty by that act. She doesn't feel the way she did, and she can't anymore. There will be lots of things she can do that don't involve sensitive documents.
Continuity was never a strong suit for this show, but a later episode revealed that he fell off the wagon in a hotel room the night of one of the Presidential debates.
This is fiction. In real life, you break trust in an office, you are punished or let go. When the rest of the office staff knows there is no penalty for this, then they care less and the whole office suffers.
I love the West Wing but there are times they did kind of fudge things. (For instance, making Leo the de facto Secretary of State) - like having a White House Press Secretary the Chief of Staff (Allison Janney is a great actress but you would never see a CJ Cregg given that position.)
My Great-Grandfather AND my Grandfather liked boiled eggs and toast soldiers... sorry... I thought we were all spouting pointless shit about our antecessors 😖
My great grandfather, grandfather, father, three of my 6 brothers, 4 cousins, one of my father’s brothers and who knows how many uncles were alcoholics. In my family, alcoholism doesn’t run through our family-it gallops. Fortunately, my father and his brother, along with my brothers and most of my cousins have been able to have many “one day at a time”s, but it is a daily battle. Several of them have found solace in helping others on their journeys.
While I love the narrative sentiment of the scene, I can't help but think that the stigma of having sold out the beloved boss of the Staff will mean her work environment will become untenably hostile. Not all are going to be as magnanimous as Leo if Sam's reaction is any indication.
So, to be clear, she is a traitor and we let her stay in a position to continue betraying us? She didn't do it out of moral obligation. She did it b/c someone said "find something that can hurt them politically" and she did. She didn't deserve a second chance. Leo has a disease, her only disease is weakness, and the only treatment for that is consequences.
I think calling her a Karen here is an overstep (I know her name is Karen but the colloquial Karen is what I’m referring to). This is one of my favorite scenes, and I agree with Leo’s take. If we’re calling her a Karen we’re missing the point.
The thing is Leo is lying here! he did take a drink during the Bartlet for President campaign as later revealed on the show. The whole truth would not be politically viable, despite being human. The west wing is my all time favorite tv show. The conduct of the Bartlet white house is how I aspire to work in life. But politics is a game of lies and more lies.
2:20 I wonder if Sorkin knew at the time that he was writing Leo a lie in this scene at the time. Knowing Sorkin, probably not, but it does add depth and complexity to the scene on a re-watch.
but they left out the scene when security threw her out because Leo forgot to call and inform them she can stay. so she was yelling outside heeey and then he came in and said no no shes cool she can stay lol. good scene though
While her actions were understandable, they weren't defensible, and the only 'brave' thing she did was answer honestly once she had been caught. Anonymously leaking damaging personal information isn't brave. Brave is announcing it publicly and then accepting the consequences of that breach of trust because you believe in something you consider to be more important. Sneaking around and hoping you don't get caught while others are investigated and accused over what you did isn't bravery.
Sam was right to fire her. You don't backstab a member of your team, especially when you never even met them. And Leo was right to hire her back. Sometimes, you have to get knocked on your ass, so you can learn and grow.
This scene shows Leo at his most human best, like to story about the man down the whole. This scene as written way before the name Karen was being used as an insult, which i find misogynist, and this character acted on what she saw as a principle....
The problem with this scene that everyone seems to miss is that it’s a prime example of the way Aaron Sorkin writes for women. He makes her stand there asking stupid questions that anybody who knows an alcoholic already knows the answers to.
I agree. In a place like the white house you need a confidentiality that has practically zero tolerance. It's not like she stole copy machine ink lol. She spoke out against the chief of staff. It would be like Trump hiring Liz Cheney. Not gonna happen.
I understand the loyalty but the public has an absolute right to know if people in high office have serious vices. The public has no way of knowing if he's not actively using anymore.
But the White House Chief of Staff is not "high office". It is not an elected position, nor does it require senate confirmation, and the holder has no decision-making powers. He is basically a secretary / policy adviser / staff manager who oversees the flow of information into and out of the Oval Office. The public has no more right to his medical history than it does to that of any other civil servant.
@dominicbuckley8309 I disagree. The show even depicts very accurately how much power and influence the CoS has. Most insiders agree that they have significantly more power than the VP or any cabinet member.
@@shalashaska9946 Hopefully you keep this `holier then thou attitude` with the real incoming administration, and expect them to hold themselves up to the same standard you want a tv show to do. We're getting an alcoholic as Secretary of Defense; We have an alcoholic as Chief Justice, but at least Leo owns it here, unless of lying about it.
@@wyldfiregames Not for nothin, Hegseth is alleged. Not confirmed. It's not "holier than thou" considering I'm in recovery as well. You people love the "what about" arguments too much.
This scene makes me love the Leo McGarry character, that despite what a employee did that was impacting him personally, he still gave her a second chance..
Gawwwwwwd, how many times have seen this scene?!?!? And every time, he does the same thing! "But I can't help thinking it wasn't a little bit _brave._ "
Some of the most INTELLIGENT writing I have ever witnessed on television. The West Wing...you ROCK!!!
The incomparable genius and talent of Aaron Sorkin.
It is intelligent writing. This was pure feminism. You'll note, the female NEVER APOLOGIZES to the male. Ever. She is not sorry for what she did AND there are no consequences that the female will face for her inability to keep this information confidential. They never shake hands. And she still sees him the way she looks at her father, with disgust. But the cardinal virtue is achieved: a total lack of accountability for women while trying to ruin the patriarchal male in a power position which is sacred to the left's favorite, fictional, political fantasy.
This is.Powerful scene and it gives a great backstory to Leo in the first season, the way that half of his face is in the shadows reveals that he’s still struggling with his inner demons..and the way he handles this situation by wanting to meet her and learn why she did what she did and the reasoning behind it, makes him the type of Leader that you want to work for,
Her face is about in half shadows as well….
A principled whistleblower cannot by definition be a true Karen. But we neevr see her again because as soon as she left the room she got stabbed in the neck by Margaret.
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I always suspected that Margaret did all the White House's wet work : - )
Margaret don't play the reason she knows how to forge Jed's signature is so that when she get finished she gets a pardon.
She fought, that explained the issue with the sweater Margaret loaned out
This is what I came for
It's good of UA-cam's algorithm to, from time to time, remind me of West Wing - the best TV-show in history.
Karen: "You're not like what I thought you'd be like".
Leo: "You haven't seen me falling down drunk."
Been sober for 12 plus years....Immensely Thankful Everyday! I personally do not like the play on words for the Title of this video. But no matter....still a powerful scene with many messages. I have always wondered how Sam would have reacted once he found out that Miss Larson was rehired by Leo. We don't generally see Sam lose his cool but he was hot under the collar at the very beginning! Cheers Everyone 👋
Congratulations and wishing you well in the future.
Sam likely would have followed Leo's lead.
Just like when he went off on the two guys harassing Ainsley, Sam was acting out of a sense of justice and a desire to protect people he respected/cared about.
My bet is that once Leo had made it clear he was 'still standing' and willing to forgive her, that would have implicitly told Sam that Leo was 'safe' and didn't need someone to stand for him, and he would have been right there with him.
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers Plus I'm sure Leo sat Sam down and explained why she did what she did. Sam understands a sense of justice and in her mind, she was protecting her country. I think Sam would get that. Not saying they were friends, but I'm sure he was cordial with her. Same for Leo.
@ Appreciate this Michael 👋
@ Great comment RL! Makes a lot of sense! Salute
Leo, both the character and the actor: just so brilliant. This is but one example.
The late great John Spencer. Sadly died before The West Wing concluded. They wrote John's untimely death into the show as Leo McGarry's untimely passing as well.
Astonishing and hauntingly beautiful considering Spencer was an actual recovered alcoholic. I don't think anyone else could have spoken about this so honestly and humanely. We lost a great actor and human when he passed.
As the man himself would say; "Act as if ye have faith, and faith shall be given to you." Thanks for doing better!
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One of the best moments of the show, and you title it like a unfunny third tier meme? You can do better.
*Excellent point.* Fix this ill.
Seconded, thirded and fourthed!!!
The whole point of this scene is everyone has their reasons but everyone deserves forgiveness
In their defense her name is Karen.
@@patd0 fair
Are you really suggesting she was in the right here? Or that in any universe that isn't television she would've (or should've) kept her job? Oy.
They could not have picked a better actor to play Leo. God, this show made me proud of our government, once ... guess I'm still proud of our system overall. The people cannot be fooled all of the time.
That's why there are two parties. One fools half the people, the other one fools the other half.
@@uncahay meh
This was so good. As someone who had family members who were addicts, Leo does such good of explaining what it means to be an addict and Karen still doesn't get it because unless you are an addict, you probably wouldn't understand.
How her face changed when he asked if she liked working at the White House. Great scene :)
So wonderful to have 2nd chances - AFTER issues are talked through and people take the time to understand each other. ❤ 😊 ❤
Since Leo may have known he's been given a lot of second chances in his life maybe he wanted to give that girl a second chance like he was given.
Man falls down a hole …
I was very sad when John Spencer passed away. I really loved him in West Wing. And he was perfect in this scene.
He recognized it; her patriotism.
I like this scene explaining why, it was too alert and inform not to gossip and speculate.
There's a lesson there, watch for it in real life.
Assuming it matters anymore...
The girl who played Karen Larson played Paris Geller in the Gillmore Girls!
It's one of Leo's best moments. And for me, #2 after the scene where he tells Josh the story about the man in the hole.
After starting Ozempic I think I understand Leo now. I've tried dieting for 45 years. It's never worked. The NEED for food is too strong. Once I started Ozempic and the need went away now I can make better choices. It's made me much more understanding of all sorts of addicts now. Only people who don't have the need think it's about will power.
I can't speak to the alcoholism but as a diabetic it is the same way with sugar. I can't have just one Whopper or some such. It's a huge handful. But then, that isn't enough. Before long, I've finished the whole box and moved on to the two pound bag of peanut M&Ms. After that, I'm raiding the pantry for anything else that's sweet and I keep going till I pass out. There's just no stopping the compulsion once I start so the only thing I can do is make sure to never start. That's doubly hard when the wife keeps it around.
Do you like her?
@1111atreides She's the Nancy to my Sid.
@ That's a shame. Good luck on your journey together.
I feel this. I am this.
Leo made me want to be someone’s Chief of Staff. Like Leo told Josh, I don’t want to be the Guy. I want to be the Guy behind the Guy.
And now we have a likely alcoholic (and worse) about to be named to head up our Department of Defense! This lovely Leo scene seems so quaint now, with the perspective of time.
The "incredible" John Spencer, ..... Such a TELENTED actor, taken from us too damn early ... Like John Amos, another FINE actor (Admiral Fitz Wallace) R.I.P.
He's so good guy ... And also a great improvement even for a small amount
I've seen this brilliant scene at least 2 dozen times and I love it -- the writing, Spencer's acting -- but I've just noticed a continuity inconsistency that negates Leo's statement that he hadn't had a drink or a pill in 6 years. In a later season we see the flashback of the first time Jed passes out during campaign prep. Leo is away, meeting with big money donors and he ends up having some Johnny Walker Blue Label Whisky & going on a bit of a solo bender. As Bartlet is, when this scene occurs, in the middle of his first term, it's not possible for that flashback to have been 6 years earlier. It doesn't matter or make this scene any less wonderful. It just shows (and having written a lot of TV, I know this first hand) that as a series progresses, timeline inconsistencies occur. None of that diminishes its greatness. Just fun, as a West Wing nerd, to notice.
If only we had this kind of forgiveness and kindness in politics today. Just pure hatred now.
Leo was the classiest of class acts.
I got a little distracted seeing a young Tucker Carlson on the TV in the background...
Reality is stranger than fiction.
Thats not just a fireable offense thats criminal charges. Violation of HIPPA
Young people make mistakes. And sometimes we all need a second chance
Despite her name being Karen, you describe her "as a Karen". In the scene she describes the reason for her actions and they reason with each other, work it out and he describes her as "brave". Well done to this channel administrator for jumping on the "karen' bandwagon just to get hits. #slowclap
Of course, common sense would inform you that they didn't mean it like that but in the sense that everyone needs *this* sort of person. So "slow hand clap" right back at ya! 🤦♂🤷♂
@@carlwaring 🙄 if you say so 🙄
Btw, she is Lisa Weil, who played Paris Geller (Rory's nemesis and later friend in Gilmore Girls) - ironically she also played a White House aide in the show Scandal.
Something I just noticed. He said he hasn’t had a drink in six and half years. But later we find out he did drink during the end of the first campaign. The six years is what everyone publicly knew and only a few knew about the relapse. Maybe this is just something the writers forgot or ignored for the story where that was revealed. I wonder how many other times he said it was six years before they decided to change it.
Unbelievable.
One of my favorite scenes of TWW.
Life as it could be and should be
Let's do suggestions for a new title for this awesome scene; I'll begin.
"Why Leo started going to the late-night poker games ..."
This is a powerful scene that would never happen in real life. She'd have been fired and that would have been it.
This is a good scene, and a great character moment for Leo, but the fact is that no one in the White House would ever trust her again. She'd never handle another sensitive document. What is the point of sending her back to work?
Leo was chief of staff. Just like with Ainsley, the others would just have to get over it. Especially in the WH constructed the way it was, the others would fall in line. She may not have got a theater performance though.
Ironically, Lisa Weil (the actress who is best known for playing Paris Geller - Rory's nemesis and later friend in Gilmore Girls) would later play a White House aide in the show Scandal.
Leo won her loyalty by that act. She doesn't feel the way she did, and she can't anymore. There will be lots of things she can do that don't involve sensitive documents.
Leo lied. He said he hadn't taken a drink in six years. We find out later he got drunk during the campaign.
"artistic license" - he didn't lie, when he said it, it was true; later, the writers created an amended version of events to fit their storyline.
Continuity was never a strong suit for this show, but a later episode revealed that he fell off the wagon in a hotel room the night of one of the Presidential debates.
That was a flashback to the first campaign, I believe
@@SorenMNielsen Yes and THAT is the very defintion of "continuity" so I have no idea what Bob meant by his remark.
This is fiction. In real life, you break trust in an office, you are punished or let go. When the rest of the office staff knows there is no penalty for this, then they care less and the whole office suffers.
In fact given the level of government she would probably have ended up in jail.
Of course it’s fiction, it’s a fictional television program where the people in the White House are a perfect version of themselves. 😊
I love the West Wing but there are times they did kind of fudge things. (For instance, making Leo the de facto Secretary of State) - like having a White House Press Secretary the Chief of Staff (Allison Janney is a great actress but you would never see a CJ Cregg given that position.)
My Great-Grandfather and my Grandfather was Alcoholic.
My Great-Grandfather AND my Grandfather liked boiled eggs and toast soldiers... sorry... I thought we were all spouting pointless shit about our antecessors 😖
it's cool.
My great grandfather, grandfather, father, three of my 6 brothers, 4 cousins, one of my father’s brothers and who knows how many uncles were alcoholics. In my family, alcoholism doesn’t run through our family-it gallops.
Fortunately, my father and his brother, along with my brothers and most of my cousins have been able to have many “one day at a time”s, but it is a daily battle. Several of them have found solace in helping others on their journeys.
That good news and sorry about your Family .
While I love the narrative sentiment of the scene, I can't help but think that the stigma of having sold out the beloved boss of the Staff will mean her work environment will become untenably hostile. Not all are going to be as magnanimous as Leo if Sam's reaction is any indication.
What's Leo worried about? It's not like an alcoholic isn't qualified to hold a high-level security post in the government these days.
So, to be clear, she is a traitor and we let her stay in a position to continue betraying us? She didn't do it out of moral obligation. She did it b/c someone said "find something that can hurt them politically" and she did. She didn't deserve a second chance. Leo has a disease, her only disease is weakness, and the only treatment for that is consequences.
Better tell Sam to NOT be angry at her anymore.
I think calling her a Karen here is an overstep (I know her name is Karen but the colloquial Karen is what I’m referring to). This is one of my favorite scenes, and I agree with Leo’s take. If we’re calling her a Karen we’re missing the point.
How to gain the most loyal employee ever!
Tucker Carlson on CNN over her shoulder at 2:01.
The thing is Leo is lying here! he did take a drink during the Bartlet for President campaign as later revealed on the show. The whole truth would not be politically viable, despite being human. The west wing is my all time favorite tv show. The conduct of the Bartlet white house is how I aspire to work in life. But politics is a game of lies and more lies.
2:20 I wonder if Sorkin knew at the time that he was writing Leo a lie in this scene at the time. Knowing Sorkin, probably not, but it does add depth and complexity to the scene on a re-watch.
@ ain’t nothing but a family thing
@@KJackson-cm4dp I’m referring to the episode Bartlet for America
but they left out the scene when security threw her out because Leo forgot to call and inform them she can stay. so she was yelling outside heeey and then he came in and said no no shes cool she can stay lol. good scene though
A beautiful scene that shows Leo's character. I just think Sam made her life hell and she ended up quitting.
While her actions were understandable, they weren't defensible, and the only 'brave' thing she did was answer honestly once she had been caught. Anonymously leaking damaging personal information isn't brave. Brave is announcing it publicly and then accepting the consequences of that breach of trust because you believe in something you consider to be more important. Sneaking around and hoping you don't get caught while others are investigated and accused over what you did isn't bravery.
Sam was right to fire her. You don't backstab a member of your team, especially when you never even met them.
And Leo was right to hire her back. Sometimes, you have to get knocked on your ass, so you can learn and grow.
Can you edit out Tucker Carlson on the TV in the background and reupload? Thanks.
The problem here is that whiney Sam is the Karen.
Leo the man
any Gilmore Girls fans here? I wonder if Liza Weil ( Paris Geller) was not cast in GG, would she continue in West Wing
This scene shows Leo at his most human best, like to story about the man down the whole.
This scene as written way before the name Karen was being used as an insult, which i find misogynist, and this character acted on what she saw as a principle....
Guess that was the end of Paris Gueller career in the public sector.
Actually - in 2012 Lisa Weil played a White House aide in six episodes of Scandal - so I guess she found a way to stay in Washington.
It’s a great tv show. I doubt the reality that honest, intelligent people with values actually work at the White House.
I disagree - there are a lot of honest intelligent people - it depends on the tone set at the top.
Did this woman do 0 research about her father's alcoholism, and what alcoholism means?
The problem with this scene that everyone seems to miss is that it’s a prime example of the way Aaron Sorkin writes for women. He makes her stand there asking stupid questions that anybody who knows an alcoholic already knows the answers to.
I don't think it's the relevant point that it's a woman asking them.
The point here is WHAT is being asked about 😊
@ okay, well, no matter who is asking the questions, they sound like something a third grader would ask….not an adult.
I recall. I didn't like this scene. Many mistakes deserve a second chance. Disloyalty does not.
I agree. In a place like the white house you need a confidentiality that has practically zero tolerance. It's not like she stole copy machine ink lol. She spoke out against the chief of staff. It would be like Trump hiring Liz Cheney. Not gonna happen.
Would everyone else give her a second chance?
Not the Toxic Cheeto!
Paris Gellar betrayed Leo McGarry! Figures she would be a Republican.
Ironically, she also played a White House aide for six episodes on the series Scandal.
I don’t love this show because I think the gov works this way. I love it because I *wish* it worked this way.
I like the title of this video.
You 😂 acknowledged a Karen
Idk. I was a little bit embarrassed by this scene. Not sure why. Maybe because its just a little unrealistic.
I understand the loyalty but the public has an absolute right to know if people in high office have serious vices. The public has no way of knowing if he's not actively using anymore.
You are so full of shit
But the White House Chief of Staff is not "high office". It is not an elected position, nor does it require senate confirmation, and the holder has no decision-making powers. He is basically a secretary / policy adviser / staff manager who oversees the flow of information into and out of the Oval Office. The public has no more right to his medical history than it does to that of any other civil servant.
@dominicbuckley8309 I disagree. The show even depicts very accurately how much power and influence the CoS has. Most insiders agree that they have significantly more power than the VP or any cabinet member.
@@shalashaska9946 Hopefully you keep this `holier then thou attitude` with the real incoming administration, and expect them to hold themselves up to the same standard you want a tv show to do. We're getting an alcoholic as Secretary of Defense; We have an alcoholic as Chief Justice, but at least Leo owns it here, unless of lying about it.
@@wyldfiregames Not for nothin, Hegseth is alleged. Not confirmed. It's not "holier than thou" considering I'm in recovery as well. You people love the "what about" arguments too much.
Never trust a traitor