Absolutely agree. He's a wonderful actor. The interaction between himself and Abby in this scene is hilarious. I loved him as Porthos in The Three Musketeers.
Except for Stockard Channing who played the first lady. I've always thought she was miscast. To me, she played the role too Hollywood. She was more like a character out of Dallas or Dynasty.
There’s a lesson in this scene. In the daily business of your life, if anyone tells you, “the information in this paperwork is entirely confidential; no one will know about it. You’re safe”, you need to think, “subpoena”. If it’s recorded in any way whatsoever, a lawyer can put it front of a judge or jury. Nothing, NOTHING that recorded is confidential. If you committed a sin and it’s kept quiet for the time being, that sin is like the Sword of Damocles hanging over your head. It might come down on you-or it might not. But either way, it remains there just out of sight but within striking distance. So… the lesson is this. When making choices and taking action, ask yourself, “What would a judge or jury think of me?” Because a lawyer can turn anything into a sin. Yeah, I know…that sucks. But that’s real life. So be careful.
I’m Brisbane, we call it The Courier-Mail test. What would happen if it got printed in TCM? Granted it’s long been nothing more to an a tabloid, but in a one-paper town, it’s immediately understood as a … shall we say … ethical decision-making tool.
@@copycat21c That's a perfect analogy. What will the people in the community think? A lot of people think that this or that small thing or isn't necessarily illegal so it's okay if you do it. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth. I'm not in Australia but I would think that the courts there have a similar position that any "prior bad acts" that you do can be considered against you when determining the likelihood of your guilt if those acts demonstrate a motive to commit the crime with which you are charged. If you want to dangle your foot over the edge of the cliff, go ahead. But just understand that if you fall, it will be because you put yourself into that situation. 99% of the time, you don't need the law to tell you what's right and wrong. We know it intrinsically.
As someone who has worked in the law for 26 years, we have a saying : "Dance as if no-one's watching. E-mail as if its going to be produced in the Supreme Court tomorrow."
There is a lesson in this comment. Looking for life lessons from an entertainment writer is akin to taking medical advice from a car salesman. I hope you have grown up and become less ignorant in the 2 years since you've made this silly comment.
@@switters8679 Thank you for your concern about my growing up and becoming less ignorant in the last 2 years since my post. I do have one question. Are you saying that going to car salesmen for medical advice is a bad thing that it might be better instead to ...get advice from a doctor? What with the skyrocketing insurance costs, office copays, deductibles, etc., going to a car salesman for medical advice can definitely put a few bucks back in your pocket But you're saying that this whole "seeing a doctor for actual medical problems as opposed to a car salesman" concept might actually better in the long run, then? Hmmm. This is opening up all kinds of new possibilities.🤔
I like that YT put this in my feed the day after Olivia Newton-John died. It brings back fond memories of her and Stockard lighting up the screen that one hot summer.
Yes, I was a little surprised when Google told me that. I was thinking it was some literary mag. I shouldn't have been surprised cause I took French in HS. Monde = World. But I didn't make the connection.
She said "I don't read Le Monde" in the same snarky way Jerry Seinfeld or his TV mom would say, "Hello, Newman". LOL! One of the very best WW scenes!!!!
@@ajohnson153 it's amazing. It's old enough that it doesn't annoy me like a more modern show (Designated Survivor or Madam Secretary). But, fair warning, every once in a while, you get a plot line and you suddenly realise nothing is new anymore and we're still having the same old problems.
I bet Abby really liked Oliver despite the sassy back and forth because he called her “Dr Bartlett” without having to be prompted. I could t imagine the frustration of being a renowned Surgeon but being called Mrs and not Dr because your husband is the President and technically a Doctor because of his PH.D and they wanna be clear who they’re addressing, so you get a demotion so people don’t confuse you with the other Dr Bartlett who hasn’t used the title Dr presumably since he became a congressman.
Most female physicians deal with this every day because people assume if you’re a woman and work in a hospital, you’re a nurse or some other type of support staff, and not the physician.
I would call someone with the qualification "Dr" or whatever their professional title is if I was at their practice, or having a discussion relevant to their career field. I'm most likely not calling them by a title if the interaction between them and I doesn't meet one of those 2 criteria.
The American obsesion with titles looks really weird from other places. In my country (Spain), nobody uses academic or profesional titles in a daily basis.
Oliver Platt ------another superb actor we never saw enough of------along with John Laroquette. --------Both were on this show, for all too brief a time. -------------------------------------WolfSky9, 72 y/o
I would love to see a list of all the guest stars over all the seasons. Some of my favorites included William Fichtner and Glenn Close as appellate court judges elevated to the U.S. Supreme Court and Matthew Perry (Chandler on “Friends”) as Joe, the Republican White House asst gen counsel who replaced Ashley Haynes.
I liked Abbey- don't misunderstand me - she was incredible but at times she COULD be bossy and aloof and here in these scenes she came in arrogant and I know what to say - and he brought reality back into the equation.
She was arrogant. The character is arrogant. Board certified in multiple states, consultant at three world beating hospitals, three high achieving kids, and First Lady of NH, and USA, all while a lot of women would be playing congressman's wife etc. Her arrogance is part and parcel, it's just tempered with adoration of her loved ones and a great set of values.
Bossy is a word exclusively used for women who give orders and know their own minds. Men are never “bossy” for the same behavior. Yes, like a lot of doctors at a high lever, she was often arrogant. That is a non sexist word you can use for the same thing,
She is an expert in the chest and other thoracic areas. MS affects the brain and spine, something she probably isn't a trained expert in. She probably has never practiced clinical medicine or the administering of drugs for MS, or writing out consistent prescriptions. She isn't a medical expert in the specific field he referred to.
He's good, but I probably rather have Lionel Tribby for my attorney. Anyone that could march into the Oval Office with a Cricket bat and practically threaten the president or other people has got my vote for 100% brass....
He is indeed saying she's not a medical expert in MS/CNS diseases but was giving the president injections for it anyway, hence the issue. Her specialties are internal medicine and thoracic surgery.
I don't know. I feel like she could have broken her ankle in real life, but it felt like it was there to establish (or reestablish if you've already seen it) the kind of relationship they have and who they are as characters. 1) Not solely business which means they have known each other for a little while. 2) They have a healthy dislike for each other which says they're not happy go lucky people, likely due to all the responsibilities that come within their professional/personal life, and they likely don't approve of each others methods for things in or out of the field. 3) The snarkiness while communicating and helping one another says that they're still good people, yet hints as a loss or hardship when they were younger that made them this way... Calling each other out personally makes the scene more fun because it establishes a sense of connection with the audience; 2 characters that have seen so much bullshit in their line of work that they call it out in people's personal lives makes it relatable and therefore fun.
How could someone subpoena settlement papers and she not know about it? She was involved in that lawsuit. It was a suit against *her*. How could she not have been informed that someone was digging into it?
Because it’s not real. Aaron Sorkin has said his goal is simply to tell an entertaining story, nothing more. He doesn’t care about being letter perfect on realistic accuracy. The story comes first. And because this is entirely fictional, he can do that.
Did I misunderstand? Were they referring to a Coronary Artery Bypass, tinnitus, & a liver infection as part of ONE case? If Dr. Bartlet is a thoracic surgery specialist and, as such, would not be concerned with the liver & certainly not the ear.
She said mediastinitis, not tinnitus. And yes, after a CABG, if it was a post op complication, she would have been most definitely involved because it would have been from the surgery she performed. Even with a post op liver infection, and the attending surgeon would remain involved in the care.
Yeah, I liked Abbie, and that stuck me as well. On the other hand, I could kind of see why. She was trying to shield her husband from public knowledge of his MS. I honestly can't fault her intentions. But, as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, n'est pas?
@@xaenon I submit that neither of you know any actual physicians. Almost all of them have some level of "God Complex" and hardly any of them would think twice about doing some of the things Abby does here.
@@lancer525Your bias is showing. Using your own personal experiences to paint a broad brush against all doctors is folly. There are many types of doctors & I can tell you oncologists (in my experience) don’t have a god complex as it’s hard to have one when so many of your patients die within 5-10 years.
@@Rushinator1Who,needs bias when you can research the commonality and the punishments? It’s really common and keeps AMA and hospital ethics committees busy.
@@wholeNwon I think the correct form would be: "Abby doesn't think she did anything wrong" or "Abby thinks she didn't do anything wrong." I don't know if I didn't get that right. 😂😂😂
That’s not at all what she thinks. Oliver and Abbie had this discussion in a previous episode where he laid out the trouble she could be in. She simply doesn’t believe what she did wrong is the purview of Congress, and she’s right. She knows she was in the wrong and it’s why she agrees to give up her license to practice voluntarily at the end of the episode.
Because like.... before we had a completely corrupt narcissist as president, that would be seen as corrupt and improper abuse of power, due to the conflict of interest. The show was already idealist, but we definitely lived in a dflifferent time as a country back then too
1- Jed Bartlet is too ethical for that, 2- It would be an admission that she committed a crime, 3- The President can only pardon Federal crimes, not State crimes.
He would have tried. But the political damage to his campaign would already have been done, he’d lose the election, and Abby would be slamming a tin cup against metal bars.
He never says shame on you to her. He only gets mad when she is ready to surrender and he wants her to fight because neither she nor the president did anything wrong and he wants her to stand up against the BS political play.
@@jasonkoch3182 I'm pretty sure Oliver is only interested in getting Abby prepared for her testimony (i.e. telling the whole truth, not committing perjury). He is not interested in making sure she is out of trouble.
I hear you. I personally don't like when people refer to the justices of the Federal Supreme Court as The Supremes. I'm pretty sure, that was a singing group with Diana Ross in it.
I have mostly enjoyed Stockard Channing's performances. I wish she had gotten more work. Let me clarify, GOOD work, like this. She has also been in some dreadful crap.
Le Monde (the real French newspaper) has ties to socialism and KGB (Russian) influence... you make your own minds up and why Sorkin put it in. The book: "The Hidden Face of Le Monde" (translated from French) covers all of their politics and connections.
Simply, Babbish reads Le Monde because he’s a stuck up lefty intellectual type and that’s exactly what he’s say he read to sound holier than thou. That book was published after this episode aired.
@@TheBroz Yeah, about a year after... so what, it's a meaningless point. The truth about Le Monde was already out there, before this episode and the book. The book just formalized what most already knew.
I know, the audacity of going through the records of Melania's medical practice while only pretending to investigate that one little 50-100 criminal offenses the president is trying to hide from the public.
When politicians use such methods to get their way, it was disreputable when this show aired, and it's disreputable, today. So when a Senate Judiciary Committee is trying to bring down a Supreme Court nominee using the contents of his high school yearbook, I get angry. When the politicians use years of unsupported hints about wrongdoing with Russia by a candidate, I get angry.
When Supreme Court nominees dont get a Senate hearing, or when politicians brag about sexually assaulting women and suffer no consequences, I get angry.....
@@partyguy101ify Unlike Bill Clinton accused of rape by multiple women, and Joe Biden , also accused of rape. However, the news media preferred to play down those stories. They practically ignored Tara Reade's account of rape by Joe Biden.
Wrong, no. My comment was sound, my spelling of Segue was incorrect. Hilarious, only to a simpleton, mildly humorous perhaps. I view it as a learning experience, did you learn anything? I doubt it!
Always thought she was too arrogant with everyone. Left leaning politics told in an excellent manner with superb cast. Didn’t agree with the lefty version but great drama. On Netflix to binge
I hate that each scene gets cut off just as the conversation starts to get interesting. This isn't clever or more suspenseful, it's just annoying. And I also hate that Abbey fills in so much of of Oliver's dialogue. Let the guy speak for heaven's sake. He's a 100x more interesting character than her.
Oliver Platt stole every single scene he was in --no small accomplishment when sharing the screen with the rest of this cast.
He steals the show as the psychologist on Chicago Med and is a good addition to the show.
Absolutely agree. He's a wonderful actor. The interaction between himself and Abby in this scene is hilarious. I loved him as Porthos in The Three Musketeers.
He steals virtually everything he’s in. He absolutely stole The Ice Harvest.
He made a terrible movie about 90’s wrestling company WCW completely watchable.
I don't understand how he wasn't in more movies and shows...
I have always been amazed how TWW always managed to to bring in actors who are perfect for the series.
It's not by chance, Sorkin is known for tailoring his characters to their actors.
Except for Stockard Channing who played the first lady. I've always thought she was miscast. To me, she played the role too Hollywood. She was more like a character out of Dallas or Dynasty.
"What the hell kind of dates have you been going on, Oliver?"
I hear you! (God, the writing was SO good!)
One of my top ten favorite scenes of the series. Love the banter between Oliver and Abby.
There’s a lesson in this scene. In the daily business of your life, if anyone tells you, “the information in this paperwork is entirely confidential; no one will know about it. You’re safe”, you need to think, “subpoena”. If it’s recorded in any way whatsoever, a lawyer can put it front of a judge or jury. Nothing, NOTHING that recorded is confidential. If you committed a sin and it’s kept quiet for the time being, that sin is like the Sword of Damocles hanging over your head. It might come down on you-or it might not. But either way, it remains there just out of sight but within striking distance. So… the lesson is this. When making choices and taking action, ask yourself, “What would a judge or jury think of me?” Because a lawyer can turn anything into a sin. Yeah, I know…that sucks. But that’s real life. So be careful.
I’m Brisbane, we call it The Courier-Mail test. What would happen if it got printed in TCM? Granted it’s long been nothing more to an a tabloid, but in a one-paper town, it’s immediately understood as a … shall we say … ethical decision-making tool.
@@copycat21c That's a perfect analogy. What will the people in the community think? A lot of people think that this or that small thing or isn't necessarily illegal so it's okay if you do it. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth. I'm not in Australia but I would think that the courts there have a similar position that any "prior bad acts" that you do can be considered against you when determining the likelihood of your guilt if those acts demonstrate a motive to commit the crime with which you are charged. If you want to dangle your foot over the edge of the cliff, go ahead. But just understand that if you fall, it will be because you put yourself into that situation. 99% of the time, you don't need the law to tell you what's right and wrong. We know it intrinsically.
As someone who has worked in the law for 26 years, we have a saying : "Dance as if no-one's watching. E-mail as if its going to be produced in the Supreme Court tomorrow."
There is a lesson in this comment. Looking for life lessons from an entertainment writer is akin to taking medical advice from a car salesman. I hope you have grown up and become less ignorant in the 2 years since you've made this silly comment.
@@switters8679 Thank you for your concern about my growing up and becoming less ignorant in the last 2 years since my post. I do have one question. Are you saying that going to car salesmen for medical advice is a bad thing that it might be better instead to ...get advice from a doctor? What with the skyrocketing insurance costs, office copays, deductibles, etc., going to a car salesman for medical advice can definitely put a few bucks back in your pocket But you're saying that this whole "seeing a doctor for actual medical problems as opposed to a car salesman" concept might actually better in the long run, then? Hmmm. This is opening up all kinds of new possibilities.🤔
Stockard Channing channeling some inner-Katherine Hepburn…love her!
I like that YT put this in my feed the day after Olivia Newton-John died. It brings back fond memories of her and Stockard lighting up the screen that one hot summer.
Loved his "I read Le Monde, do *you* read Le *Monde*
I'm going to have to look up this Le Monde of whom they speak.
You'll be surprised to hear it's a French newspaper
Yes, I was a little surprised when Google told me that. I was thinking it was some literary mag. I shouldn't have been surprised cause I took French in HS. Monde = World. But I didn't make the connection.
I think he said "I read Le Monde, was it in Le Monde?"
Pity.
For somebody not overtly political, Abbey had political instincts.
What makes you say she wasn't overtly political?
You don't get ahead in the medical/hospital field without being political.
Go Cubbies!
@@andrew_4747especially as a woman at the time she did it
A LOT of great scenes in the history of The West Wing, but this is AWESOME!
"A suspended jail sentence of 3 to 5 years"...... ummm " what the one just above that ? " LOL
and it changes to a shot of Toby? Hmm... :/
"I read Le Monde. Was it in Le Monde?" 🤣
She said "I don't read Le Monde" in the same snarky way Jerry Seinfeld or his TV mom would say, "Hello, Newman". LOL! One of the very best WW scenes!!!!
Bravo! We need less Abby & more Newman.
Investment idea- WEST WING CD SETS. Lots of us are going to be wearing ours out over the next four years!
Laura Thornton yes ma'am
My family has already purchased all 7 seasons. We've played them so often we've already lost half of all of the disks.
Netflix. I think your idea might not work out so well.
I'm already rewatching the series.
@@jhonsmith5093 I'm watching it for the first time currently. It's just so damn good.
@@ajohnson153 it's amazing. It's old enough that it doesn't annoy me like a more modern show (Designated Survivor or Madam Secretary).
But, fair warning, every once in a while, you get a plot line and you suddenly realise nothing is new anymore and we're still having the same old problems.
“Alright, what’s the one right above that….”
😂😂
Oliver Platt’s a terrific steal scening character actor.
I bet Abby really liked Oliver despite the sassy back and forth because he called her “Dr Bartlett” without having to be prompted.
I could t imagine the frustration of being a renowned Surgeon but being called Mrs and not Dr because your husband is the President and technically a Doctor because of his PH.D and they wanna be clear who they’re addressing, so you get a demotion so people don’t confuse you with the other Dr Bartlett who hasn’t used the title Dr presumably since he became a congressman.
Most female physicians deal with this every day because people assume if you’re a woman and work in a hospital, you’re a nurse or some other type of support staff, and not the physician.
I would call someone with the qualification "Dr" or whatever their professional title is if I was at their practice, or having a discussion relevant to their career field. I'm most likely not calling them by a title if the interaction between them and I doesn't meet one of those 2 criteria.
@@fatman123526 that’s fair I just worship doctors because being one is my dream.
He actually called her Mrs Bartlet in a previous episode and she responded with “Dr. Bartlet” and he referred to her that way from then on.
The American obsesion with titles looks really weird from other places. In my country (Spain), nobody uses academic or profesional titles in a daily basis.
"I read Le Monde. Was it in Le Monde?"
"I don't know. I don't read Le Monde."
"Pity."
I love that exchange. I, too, read Le Monde!
Is it like a French Time Magazine?
@@javimiami92 It's more French NY Times than Time-it's among their "papers of record".
@@MilesReiter ah gotcha. Might check it out.
A friend who lived in Paris for a decade told me 'you don't read Le Monde, you study it'.
Oliver Platt ------another superb actor we never saw enough of------along with John Laroquette. --------Both were on this show, for all too brief a time. -------------------------------------WolfSky9, 72 y/o
Wolfsky9 And both playing the same role - White House counsel
I would love to see a list of all the guest stars over all the seasons. Some of my favorites included William Fichtner and Glenn Close as appellate court judges elevated to the U.S. Supreme Court and Matthew Perry (Chandler on “Friends”) as Joe, the Republican White House asst gen counsel who replaced Ashley Haynes.
"So we can move on with this rectal probe" LMFAO!!
I liked Abbey- don't misunderstand me - she was incredible but at times she COULD be bossy and aloof and here in these scenes she came in arrogant and I know what to say - and he brought reality back into the equation.
Babish takes no shit, not from anyone. But he does it with class. Oliver Platt sold this character so well.
She’s backed into a corner, she’s afraid, and she’s vicious. Fight or flight.
They all did, they were following Jed's lead.
She was arrogant. The character is arrogant. Board certified in multiple states, consultant at three world beating hospitals, three high achieving kids, and First Lady of NH, and USA, all while a lot of women would be playing congressman's wife etc. Her arrogance is part and parcel, it's just tempered with adoration of her loved ones and a great set of values.
Bossy is a word exclusively used for women who give orders and know their own minds. Men are never “bossy” for the same behavior. Yes, like a lot of doctors at a high lever, she was often arrogant. That is a non sexist word you can use for the same thing,
Why does he say “You’re not a medical expert...”? She’s a thoracic surgeon, right?
I think he means she wasn’t an expert on MS, which she was treating the president for. The line struck me as weird too.
She is an expert in the chest and other thoracic areas. MS affects the brain and spine, something she probably isn't a trained expert in. She probably has never practiced clinical medicine or the administering of drugs for MS, or writing out consistent prescriptions. She isn't a medical expert in the specific field he referred to.
Oliver is speaking in legal terms not professional terms.
MS doesn’t occur in thoracic organs. It’s neurology and endocrinology.
@@costeris35it’s not weird. Expertise has to be in the relevant speciality. You don’t ask a psychiatrist about bone health.
I'm confused...she's an MD, a practicing surgeon..but she's "not a medical expert"???
When you deal with that level of expertise, the expertise is very narrow.
@@Justanotherconsumer so as a heart surgeon, she's not really considered an expert in prescribing meds relating to MS then?
@@kell1reilly2 Yes. She was prescribing herself meds and administering those meds to a family member. She was practicing outside her specialties.
She’s not an endocrinologist or a neurologist, ergo, not an expert on MS
@@kell1reilly2Yes. And she’s a thoracic surgeon, not a cardiologist.
⭐️STOCKARD CHANNING⭐️
Terrible acting and role. weak
I have a crush on Oliver Pratt and a girl crush on Stockard Channing!
Lori Jones Me too. Lake Placid made me laugh so hard I cried
"Alright...what's the one right above that?"
3:19 Pendelton, Frank. -Homicide Life on the Streets
Oliver is who you want for your attorney.
He's good, but I probably rather have Lionel Tribby for my attorney. Anyone that could march into the Oval Office with a Cricket bat and practically threaten the president or other people has got my vote for 100% brass....
"You're not a medical expert"
Pretty sure she is. She might not be an expert in MS, but that's not what he said.
He is indeed saying she's not a medical expert in MS/CNS diseases but was giving the president injections for it anyway, hence the issue. Her specialties are internal medicine and thoracic surgery.
Expertise is always specific. Thoracic specialisation is very broad.
That would be segue. A "Segway" is a two wheeled vehicle.
"A life is saved, a window broken." USA Police: "Poor window, this is a tragedy"
Now USA underage-to-carry 17 years old bringing a riffle to protect property…. but then kills 2 and wounds 1.
Her broken leg does nothing to advance the story. It seems likely that the actress broke her leg and that this injury was written into the story.
I've always thought that to be the case as well
Made for a REALLY good exchange though.
I don't know. I feel like she could have broken her ankle in real life, but it felt like it was there to establish (or reestablish if you've already seen it) the kind of relationship they have and who they are as characters. 1) Not solely business which means they have known each other for a little while. 2) They have a healthy dislike for each other which says they're not happy go lucky people, likely due to all the responsibilities that come within their professional/personal life, and they likely don't approve of each others methods for things in or out of the field. 3) The snarkiness while communicating and helping one another says that they're still good people, yet hints as a loss or hardship when they were younger that made them this way... Calling each other out personally makes the scene more fun because it establishes a sense of connection with the audience; 2 characters that have seen so much bullshit in their line of work that they call it out in people's personal lives makes it relatable and therefore fun.
@@weisup4960 I did a quick google search. Follow this link: www.imdb.com/title/tt0745626/trivia
That is correct. But also Abby frequently went hiking.
How could someone subpoena settlement papers and she not know about it? She was involved in that lawsuit. It was a suit against *her*. How could she not have been informed that someone was digging into it?
Tv
Because it’s not real. Aaron Sorkin has said his goal is simply to tell an entertaining story, nothing more. He doesn’t care about being letter perfect on realistic accuracy. The story comes first. And because this is entirely fictional, he can do that.
Oversight Committee doesn’t have to tell anyone. Congressmen don’t have to tell anyone.
@@Kate-lk6tw Her lawyers would have been alerted, surely, so they could have a chance to challenge the subpoena.
Oliver is the best 😅
Recorded this on a potato?
Best character in the show. Shamefully underused.
Love Oliver Platt on Chicago Med.
Did I misunderstand? Were they referring to a Coronary Artery Bypass, tinnitus, & a liver infection as part of ONE case? If Dr. Bartlet is a thoracic surgery specialist and, as such, would not be concerned with the liver & certainly not the ear.
She said mediastinitis, not tinnitus. And yes, after a CABG, if it was a post op complication, she would have been most definitely involved because it would have been from the surgery she performed. Even with a post op liver infection, and the attending surgeon would remain involved in the care.
Also patient was diabetic and they are more prone to post surgery infections and infections period.
Those are secondary symptoms!
At this point, Abigail was on my bad side. She was the physician who should have known better than to go against AMA rules and regulations.
Yeah, I liked Abbie, and that stuck me as well. On the other hand, I could kind of see why. She was trying to shield her husband from public knowledge of his MS. I honestly can't fault her intentions. But, as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, n'est pas?
@@xaenon I submit that neither of you know any actual physicians. Almost all of them have some level of "God Complex" and hardly any of them would think twice about doing some of the things Abby does here.
@@lancer525Your bias is showing. Using your own personal experiences to paint a broad brush against all doctors is folly. There are many types of doctors & I can tell you oncologists (in my experience) don’t have a god complex as it’s hard to have one when so many of your patients die within 5-10 years.
@@lancer525its incredibly common.
@@Rushinator1Who,needs bias when you can research the commonality and the punishments? It’s really common and keeps AMA and hospital ethics committees busy.
The thing that bothers me about this scene is that Abbey doesn't think she didn't do anything wrong. Yes I know it's a tv shhow.
doesn't...didn't...what?
It's called damn fine acting.
@@wholeNwon I think the correct form would be: "Abby doesn't think she did anything wrong" or "Abby thinks she didn't do anything wrong." I don't know if I didn't get that right. 😂😂😂
That’s not at all what she thinks. Oliver and Abbie had this discussion in a previous episode where he laid out the trouble she could be in. She simply doesn’t believe what she did wrong is the purview of Congress, and she’s right. She knows she was in the wrong and it’s why she agrees to give up her license to practice voluntarily at the end of the episode.
Why didn't Jed Bartlet just pardon his wife?
Because like.... before we had a completely corrupt narcissist as president, that would be seen as corrupt and improper abuse of power, due to the conflict of interest. The show was already idealist, but we definitely lived in a dflifferent time as a country back then too
1- Jed Bartlet is too ethical for that,
2- It would be an admission that she committed a crime,
3- The President can only pardon Federal crimes, not State crimes.
He would have tried. But the political damage to his campaign would already have been done, he’d lose the election, and Abby would be slamming a tin cup against metal bars.
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing better than the witty banter of Aaron Sorkin, but his Segway's are about as subtle as a car crash.
I think the word you're looking for is "segue". A "Segway" is a two wheeled instrument of death.
@@heisdeadjimwhich may or may not have been a pun in a 'car crash' simile.
Ironically, if it was an intended pun then it was TOO subtle.
Segue.
at :45... had a Rizo flashback.
Where is the part where he scolds her,"SHAME ON YOU!"
He never says shame on you to her. He only gets mad when she is ready to surrender and he wants her to fight because neither she nor the president did anything wrong and he wants her to stand up against the BS political play.
Are you sure? I seem to remember that.
Jason Koch “You didn’t keep medical records! Shame on you Dr. Bartlett!”
@@jasonkoch3182 I'm pretty sure Oliver is only interested in getting Abby prepared for her testimony (i.e. telling the whole truth, not committing perjury). He is not interested in making sure she is out of trouble.
Love me some Babish!
Huh? Love me some Babish?..Uhhhh Yeah Ok
Sorkin respects women and did even then when few TV writers did or were allowed to by TV execs.
This fictional A.G. is ten times better than the actual one
Ok except he's white house counsel, AG is a cabinet position. White House Counsel is a staff position.
@@MrLucky3576 you’re right, my mistake.
The West Wing has better writers than the real life White House Counsel
So you understand you were hilariously wrong haha.
Not to be a pedant, but there is no such thing as “New York Superior Court.” It’s correctly “New York Supreme Court.”
I hear you. I personally don't like when people refer to the justices of the Federal Supreme Court as The Supremes. I'm pretty sure, that was a singing group with Diana Ross in it.
The opening sequence is a good example of a screen writer too in love with his own words.
The screen writer and many millions…. also in love with his words.
Aren’t we all?
I have mostly enjoyed Stockard Channing's performances. I wish she had gotten more work. Let me clarify, GOOD work, like this. She has also been in some dreadful crap.
Le Monde (the real French newspaper) has ties to socialism and KGB (Russian) influence... you make your own minds up and why Sorkin put it in. The book: "The Hidden Face of Le Monde" (translated from French) covers all of their politics and connections.
Simply, Babbish reads Le Monde because he’s a stuck up lefty intellectual type and that’s exactly what he’s say he read to sound holier than thou.
That book was published after this episode aired.
@@TheBroz Yeah, about a year after... so what, it's a meaningless point. The truth about Le Monde was already out there, before this episode and the book. The book just formalized what most already knew.
Love this! Cos I think that Abbey could be a real bossy bitch! and it was great to see her pulled down a peg..
Abbey said "A-gaynst" twice.
That’s the New England way.
Amazingly the same shit is happening right now……
so this is his early job before he becomes POTUS while boarding the arks....
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Makes me think of what's going on now with the President, his family & supporters. Life imitating art.
And you came to that conclusion how?
I know, the audacity of going through the records of Melania's medical practice while only pretending to investigate that one little 50-100 criminal offenses the president is trying to hide from the public.
34 felony convictions…..
She should have done some real jail time for all the laws she ignored.
The jails woild be very full of doctors if that occurred. Doctors commonly treat family.
i lOVED this show and Oliver Plat...BUT this was the most non realistic conversation in the history of the show. i hated her character.
Hating her character for your own silly reasons doesn’t make her unrealistic. You just don’t know any women like her.
When politicians use such methods to get their way, it was disreputable when this show aired, and it's disreputable, today. So when a Senate Judiciary Committee is trying to bring down a Supreme Court nominee using the contents of his high school yearbook, I get angry. When the politicians use years of unsupported hints about wrongdoing with Russia by a candidate, I get angry.
When Supreme Court nominees dont get a Senate hearing, or when politicians brag about sexually assaulting women and suffer no consequences, I get angry.....
Yeah, I get angry, too, when a Supreme Court nominee sexually assaults women. Shut the fuck up.
@@partyguy101ify Unlike Bill Clinton accused of rape by multiple women, and Joe Biden , also accused of rape. However, the news media preferred to play down those stories. They practically ignored Tara Reade's account of rape by Joe Biden.
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Wrong, no. My comment was sound, my spelling of Segue was incorrect. Hilarious, only to a simpleton, mildly humorous perhaps. I view it as a learning experience, did you learn anything? I doubt it!
The only thing people learned was that you didn’t know the difference between ‘segue’ and ‘Segway’.
These clips highlight the arrogance of nearly every character in this series.
Yeah. We need more humble leaders, like the Republicans.
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Always thought she was too arrogant with everyone. Left leaning politics told in an excellent manner with superb cast. Didn’t agree with the lefty version but great drama. On Netflix to binge
Replace Jed and Abbey Bartlett in this scene with Joe and Hunter Biden, and everything comes into focus.
I hate that each scene gets cut off just as the conversation starts to get interesting. This isn't clever or more suspenseful, it's just annoying. And I also hate that Abbey fills in so much of of Oliver's dialogue. Let the guy speak for heaven's sake. He's a 100x more interesting character than her.