I've just realised - they don't know the price of milk... but what drew Toby into his campaign was when, as Governor, Jed straight up said he had hosed the dairy farmers in order to not make it harder for poor people to buy milk...
The Governor of New Hampshire can drive to the store and buy his own groceries. The President can't, and the senior staff appear to live entirely on takeout and black coffee.
@@paulbryan6716 This show had all the elements of DEI in it over time. That’s one of the things that made it a great show because it was inclusive and all kinds of different people were represented.
I miss this show too, and nothing since has come close. But what I'd really like to see is our government (and political discourse) operate at 1/100,000,000 of this level of intelligence and mutual respect.
Josh really never learned that the other branches of the US Government were *equal* to the executive through the show. It blew up badly in his face several times in the way he essentially looked to dictate to Congressional Democrats how things were going to be and expected to be obeyed, that they are a supporting act who should be grateful to serve at the pleasure of the President. It bit him in the ass on a few occasions just like here. Once so much so he almost got fired and did get sidelined for a while, but he never really learned the humility and that he had to sit at the tables with them as if they were equals to the President at this moment in time. He always shoved his foot into his mouth and then had to be dragged back by Leo, he could have been so much more effective if he had just matured a little...
The mistake that nearly cost him his job was a strange Plot point. I think more to set up him eventualy leaving to join the santos campaign but I could be misremembering. I think rather than not understanding congress, Josh was also often portrayed as a master of getting the votes the Bartlett administration needed. It’s rather that he sees the bigger picture and the politics and he genuinely can’t understand when others don’t. Or can’t accept when individuals go against the majority good of the Democratic Party.
It's drama bias... you don't see the 99.9% of times that Josh does his job perfectly off-screen, just the times he screws it up. Mainly because a parade of him winning all the time would make him even more insufferable.
This scene is absolutely a reference to Bush. Truth be told, the economy wasn't terrible in 1992. But people were worried and Bush seemed to be out of touch, and both Clinton and Perot capitalized on the public anxiety.
I can understand the president not knowing, even Leo, but how can *none* of them know how much milk costs? Do they all pour champagne on their breakfast cereal? Do they all have assistants doing all their shopping for them?
Even if they do their own shopping, all of them in a wealth tier that they just put what they want in the cart and don't have to overly pay attention to what it costs.
It's less that they don't buy milk, it's just that none of them really have to pay attention to the price because it's never relevant to them. If they want milk they can all comfortably buy milk, they don't have to read the price tag. I don't know the price of all the stuff I buy. It's not gonna change what I'm getting, so I just pay whatever my total comes to. It's people on a much tighter budget who don't have that luxury.
@@Kasparovwannabe I'd suggest that most people, even those on stricter budgets, don't particularly recall the specific prices of individual items like that, especially when put on the spot
To affluent middle-class purchasers, even ones who do their own shopping, milk and other staples are just small items in the trolley. I have a vague idea of the price RANGE of a carton of milk, but knowing exactly isn't relevant to me, because I can always afford it. On a low income, the exact price of goods like that is vital knowledge.
A North Korean piano prodigy wanted to defect, but it would ruin the talks. Bartlet tells the kid himself and the North Koreans pulled out of the talks anyway.
Mechanical keyboards (these days, they are keyboards for keyboard enthusiasts). The current trend is the muddy silence of membrane keyboards (which in turn is an old technology of cheap home computers)
@@bmyattuk Even today's membrane keyboards don't have the same feel as those from decades ago. Then recording noises is not easy, often the reproduced noise is different from the one heard directly.
"You;'ve out someone second-rate next in line to a president with a serious health problem". Wow - I never knew West Wing was so prophetic about Kamala Harris and Joe Biden!!!
The first really important decision that a president makes is who will be his vice president. Obama pick Biden. Biden became president and guided the US through the worst health crisis since 1913. Biden picked Kamilla Harris. Harris took over a campaign halfway through. She changed the focus reverse the polls and has thrown the Republican party into complete disarray. Donald Trump picked Mike Pence. Trump said pence was disloyal, low IQ and too honest. THEN he picked JD Vance if that still his name. Of the four names that he's had this is the least popular so he might change it again. Vance is rumored to have had intimate relationships with a couch, and is considered the worst vice presidential pick in the history of the United States.
I've just realised - they don't know the price of milk... but what drew Toby into his campaign was when, as Governor, Jed straight up said he had hosed the dairy farmers in order to not make it harder for poor people to buy milk...
Nice catch! I think Toby was already onboard. That remark made Josh come on board!
@@ashwinoashwin yes, you're right - long time since I watched that clip. I remember the man eating jelly and ice cream!
@@sarahbingham1921 yes! He was also wearing a cap :)
The Governor of New Hampshire can drive to the store and buy his own groceries. The President can't, and the senior staff appear to live entirely on takeout and black coffee.
I miss this show. I’d love to see something this good and this well written on television again. It was lightning in a bottle.
Agree 100%. Everything on tv these days is that woke DEI trash.
@@paulbryan6716 This show had all the elements of DEI in it over time. That’s one of the things that made it a great show because it was inclusive and all kinds of different people were represented.
I miss this show too, and nothing since has come close. But what I'd really like to see is our government (and political discourse) operate at 1/100,000,000 of this level of intelligence and mutual respect.
try the diplomat.
@@paulbryan6716christ, people like you are insufferable.
"Is she ok?"
I liked that Bartlett was paying attention to the fact that CJ was not happy.
I appreciate the subtle touches on this show, like the bottle of antacid prominently on Amy's desk.
This is funny and significant that Bartlett doesnt know the price of milk, because as governor, he passed some laws to make milk cheaper.
The New England Dairy Farming Compact! “You guys got rogered but good.”
The moment that Josh Lyman realised that Bartlett was the real deal.
Hope they show the clip of Bartlett giving the speech where they put the shit-talking version in the teleprompter. 😂
That was hilarious.
Josh really never learned that the other branches of the US Government were *equal* to the executive through the show. It blew up badly in his face several times in the way he essentially looked to dictate to Congressional Democrats how things were going to be and expected to be obeyed, that they are a supporting act who should be grateful to serve at the pleasure of the President.
It bit him in the ass on a few occasions just like here. Once so much so he almost got fired and did get sidelined for a while, but he never really learned the humility and that he had to sit at the tables with them as if they were equals to the President at this moment in time. He always shoved his foot into his mouth and then had to be dragged back by Leo, he could have been so much more effective if he had just matured a little...
The mistake that nearly cost him his job was a strange
Plot point. I think more to set up him eventualy leaving to join the santos campaign but I could be misremembering.
I think rather than not understanding congress, Josh was also often portrayed as a master of getting the votes the Bartlett administration needed. It’s rather that he sees the bigger picture and the politics and he genuinely can’t understand when others don’t. Or can’t accept when individuals go against the majority good of the Democratic Party.
It's drama bias... you don't see the 99.9% of times that Josh does his job perfectly off-screen, just the times he screws it up. Mainly because a parade of him winning all the time would make him even more insufferable.
They cut the best part where they make fun of Russell
The best part was Amy !!!
This channel is really good at that
That’s how they get you. 😅
I don't know the price of milk.
Cause I'm lactose intolerant.
No, you're not.
@@heddaleeyour mother
@@belloutdoors5217 Gottem
Thing is, Thiel was 200% right.
Did they have a limited electricity budget on this show? It's always dark.
Go back a few decades when televisions still has significant glare and not LED screens.
i think it's more just the age of the technology? im not sure i've seen any show from the 80s/90s that looks "bright" indoors
@@iluvsakuraandsyaoran Friends. Also, Mad About You always surprised me by how bright the lighting seemed.
The White House is a very old building.
Ever see X-Files? Could barely make out the faces of anyone
I don't know when this episode was aired but I am reminded that George H W Bush did not know what the price of milk was in 1992.
at least a decade later
This scene is absolutely a reference to Bush. Truth be told, the economy wasn't terrible in 1992. But people were worried and Bush seemed to be out of touch, and both Clinton and Perot capitalized on the public anxiety.
Does anyone know what Ryan did that made him vote Aye in the final vote? I remember him making a call and the scene cut from there!
His family is rich and powerful in politics. Ryan may have said he'd have them cut campaign contributions or something similar.
so hock a big lugey for bob russell! not the best choice, just what we're stuck with.
I’d take him right now 😂
@@joshgeorge You don't even know what a VPs job is, little one. Keep quiet.
@@heddalee *looks behind* are you talking to me? I’m not sure why. Or what you’re talking about. Cool.
@@joshgeorge Stay a flop, flop.
For those of us that are lactose intolerant, we may not know the price of milk.
Yeah, but I imagine you know the price of drinking it.
@@elizabetholiviaclark 😆
Could this be more timely...
If we get a brokered convention out of this I'm pretty sure we'll be able to hear Aaron Sorkin's pleasured moans nationwide.
TED BENEKE
Please don't ever say that again.
How could they cut out "The Triumph of the Middling"?
I can understand the president not knowing, even Leo, but how can *none* of them know how much milk costs? Do they all pour champagne on their breakfast cereal? Do they all have assistants doing all their shopping for them?
Even if they do their own shopping, all of them in a wealth tier that they just put what they want in the cart and don't have to overly pay attention to what it costs.
It's less that they don't buy milk, it's just that none of them really have to pay attention to the price because it's never relevant to them. If they want milk they can all comfortably buy milk, they don't have to read the price tag.
I don't know the price of all the stuff I buy. It's not gonna change what I'm getting, so I just pay whatever my total comes to. It's people on a much tighter budget who don't have that luxury.
At some point you no longer care how much things cost and just grab whatever's there.
@@Kasparovwannabe I'd suggest that most people, even those on stricter budgets, don't particularly recall the specific prices of individual items like that, especially when put on the spot
To affluent middle-class purchasers, even ones who do their own shopping, milk and other staples are just small items in the trolley. I have a vague idea of the price RANGE of a carton of milk, but knowing exactly isn't relevant to me, because I can always afford it. On a low income, the exact price of goods like that is vital knowledge.
What righteous, noble cause did they fail to properly worship that has CJ disappointed **THIS** time?
A North Korean piano prodigy wanted to defect, but it would ruin the talks. Bartlet tells the kid himself and the North Koreans pulled out of the talks anyway.
@@BrianOstellathank you paragraph guy
I watched The West Wing and not the debate last Thursday. It’s what we have with Biden. Trumpy should watch as an instruction video. 🇺🇸.
No irony that all of a sudden there is an official UA-cam channel for this timeless series.
He wouldn't understand it. It contains difficult concepts for him like morality, principles and public service.
Too bad the whole series isnt on one of the streaming services im subscribed to
And IFT 🤷🏽♂️
I. ❤❤❤. Josh. And. Amy. 😍😎
What's next? 😏
What the fuck is Wills keyboard made of, bubble wrap?
It's about 20+ years old.
That's how they were then.
Mechanical keyboards (these days, they are keyboards for keyboard enthusiasts).
The current trend is the muddy silence of membrane keyboards (which in turn is an old technology of cheap home computers)
@giusdb I own a mechanical. That noise is not a mechanical.
@@bmyattuk Even today's membrane keyboards don't have the same feel as those from decades ago.
Then recording noises is not easy, often the reproduced noise is different from the one heard directly.
@giusdb mate, I'm 39, I used to use those keyboards, and they didn't sound like that. This is just a weird sound design choice.
"You;'ve out someone second-rate next in line to a president with a serious health problem". Wow - I never knew West Wing was so prophetic about Kamala Harris and Joe Biden!!!
Didn't you get the cat lady memo?
You accidently put next in line, instead of the currently more likely, next.
The first really important decision that a president makes is who will be his vice president. Obama pick Biden. Biden became president and guided the US through the worst health crisis since 1913. Biden picked Kamilla Harris. Harris took over a campaign halfway through. She changed the focus reverse the polls and has thrown the Republican party into complete disarray. Donald Trump picked Mike Pence. Trump said pence was disloyal, low IQ and too honest. THEN he picked JD Vance if that still his name. Of the four names that he's had this is the least popular so he might change it again. Vance is rumored to have had intimate relationships with a couch, and is considered the worst vice presidential pick in the history of the United States.
Trump, the paragon of youth, vitality and healthy eating 🤣🤣🤣
@@BrianMeegan-k3e Tell us...did you support Joe Biden????
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