Honestly, I thought he was meant to be the instructor type, killing enemies that prove too dangerous, like an emergency button, or weakening then so a scrub could get a kill
Back in the day where characters were judged on how good your link arena team was rather than LTC or ranked runs. Unironically that's probably why they gave high ratings to characters like Nino and low ratings for Marcus.
This video made me realize how unique every play through is. In my playthrough, units like Raven, Erk and Rath were 1-rounding everything while Guy and Sain were RNG screwed and sucked.
I'll say canas is a very reliable mage. He starts at level 8 which means he is 2 levels away from an early promotion (though i keep him a shaman for a few more levels because personal hitches). His promotion gives him a ton of speed, enough to double most enemies. His promotion also gives him staff access. It is at E rank but if you promote him early he can start gaining staff ranks quite quickly. As the game goes his growths will scale him just right even if you promote him at the earlier levels. He can do some serious enemy phase with 1-2 range flux and nosferatu to restore his health. He also turns into a reliable staffer. So i say he's pretty good.
For me he undervalued Canas too. With nosferatu and as +10lvl druid he can just drain tank whole maps of enemies. Rng blessed erk and pent can do that with luck, but canas is impossible to take down by basic hard mode enemies while nosferatu equipped. Also being only dark mage user beside Athos makes him use resources that would not otherwise get used. For me Erk is always just a free fire / thunder tome for Prins/Pent. :D Respect the monocle..
It feels like cheating when I use a high level Canas with Luna. It’s just that strong. In most of my playthroughs he maxed magic, speed, and resistance. He also gets really high defense and hp for his class. Imo best character, he just feels like cheating especially against high resistance bosses.
Yes! I was played FE7 for the first time at school a few days ago! ( My data got deleted since I closed the tab on my computer but I'm okay.) I really enjoyed the game so far. I'll use this tier list to help me when I get an actual save file. Edit: Thanks to Nintendo Switch Online, I got a save file!
Love the video. Couple placements I don’t agree with but it’s not a huge deal. But if you care to know; Nino- opportunity cost of using her vs just beating the chapters without babying her makes her low tier for me. Raven - high tier unit, ridiculous combat stats at base and when promoted can equip a hand axe and decimate armies Canas - mid/high tier unit, the guy can nearly insta promote upon getting him and has just good enough combat stats to carry him through the game with just flux alone. And Luna is really strong for taking out bosses. Cheesing the final boss with him is hilarious
I've loved using most units, Rebecca & Lowen are fun to use together, Dorcas is considerably better than Bartre, and Canas is a very good mage, just a shame there are not more dark tomes.
Hector lower than Hawkeye!? Hawkeye wishes he was Hector. His dream is to be Hector. Hawkeye has a motivational poster featuring Hector next to his gym because he IDOLIZES Hector. Dont believe me? Check out their average stats on Serernes Forest, or just Hector's general growths compared to everyone. Dont worry Hawkeye, you're a good unit, but you just arent Hector. Hector doubles most enemies in the game, has the highest or close to highest HP, Str, def in the game and will probably cap is skill (which is also high). He moves better than other armored units. His decent res is the closest thing he has to a weakness but dont tell that to the mage he just 1 hit KOed. Quite simply, Hector should be God tier. He is the best enemy phase unit in the game bar none. You dont worry about anyone killing Hector, you worry about Hector killing too many and hogging the exp. Even the best mages you dont put on the frontline because the enemy still has a chance to murder them (even if its generally sub 10%).
@@locloudanerpg lol its ok, in some sense the tier list does makes sense, but it all comes down to how you play the game. If you are trying for absolute lowest turn counts/speed runs, sure. Hectors issue is that his con is really high meaning mounted units cant carry his big butt. Horses have limits. But for players who want to just want to play casually or even just beat hard mode and participate in every optional piece of content, Hector is a walking statistical god.
@@locloudanerpgprobably Raven below Guy and Nino. Raven probably has the best physical combat in the entire game, and his existence basically invalidates Guy. At level 5, the average Guy will have 1 less strength and speed, and 3 less con. The only relevant growth Guy has over Raven is speed, which really doesn’t matter since both of them are going to be doubling everything anyways. What really makes Raven so much better though is his promotion, since it gives him access to 1-2 range with axes, which lets him destroy everything he fights on enemy phase. That’s something guy will never be able to do, no matter what his stats are. As for Nino, yeah she should just be down in shit tier, she’s easily the worst unit in the game. At the very least Bartre and Dorcas can deal chip damage to enemies in the earlygame, whereas if you’re using Nino then you’re actively holding back units like Raven or Pent just so that the frail little magical girl can get a kill on an enemy you had to bring down to like 3 hp. And what do you get after all that hassle? A slightly better Erk, who isn’t even a top tier unit himself.
It's interesting to see how people's plays can vary. I'm on Ch. 26 (Yes, THAT chapter) on the switch port. For whatever reason, my Canas is cracked. His growth just got love in aaalll the right stats. He can double like mad, can eat huge hits, and he's like carrying me some maps. It's nuts. That's why I like seeing videos like this. It's just neat how certain stats on level ups can really make or break a guy. 😅
That’s because Canas is cracked. On most, if not all of my runs he would be able to one round almost every enemy and Nosferatu allowed him to heal if anything managed to hit him, which wasn’t very often.
In one playthrough I substituted Lucius with Serra just to try things out. Serra came out with every stat maxed except defense. Lucius is definitely better because he is much easier to train and has better growths (I just got RNG blessed with Serra) but boy was it fun deleting everything with her.
I remember reading about Fire Emblem in Nintendo Power and thinking, I really want it when it comes to the States. Rebecca and Lowen are my all time favorite power couple. She is an unhittable crit machine and he is a tank. I love to drop them on a busy map and let them clean house, or keep them on the back end of Night of Farewells and Cog of Destiny and let them stonewall the flyers.
A very good list albeit with some weird placings like Canas too low and Lowen behind the other cavs (you hint to Lyn mode training so ok), BUT the respect you showed to Isadora made me forget everything. Well done!
Awesome list and super helpful as play through this game as adult rather than powering through as a kid with Marcus cause he's OP and Jaffar because I thought his animations were the best...even though I still think that.
The problem with getting Harken is you pretty much have to plan for the dude. You'd have to intentionally mostly use Dorcas, Bartre, and Guy, otherwise you'll have to play slow af opening at most 1 door for 9 turns 25 chapters into the game.... I'll almost always take Karel lol
Actually, this is backwards: Using the Hero Crest users GETS you the Jerme version (which is the one with all the doors) Using the GUIDING RING users (minus Canas) gets you the Kenneth version (which has no doors, and is also seize, not rout) It's a lot simpler to plan for Harken in Jerme version because all you have to do is... not open the topmost room. You can even open Jerme's own room and kill him early to be in position, but honestly half the time the snow means you aren't even there yet Conversely, on Kenneth version you have to specifically not kill a Purge Bishop for... 8 turns to make sure Harken shows up, which is risky because said Purge Bishop has a real chance of killing your squishier support units like Ninian. Alternatively, there's a Sage/General with a Speedwing you can ignore but, uh... they charge you and also it's a Speedwing.
@@sanae99.9.9 No I've played that map before and I know for a fact it's specifically a Purge Bishop, a Sage/General, and a Druid/Sniper (depending on mode) that you have to keep track of. Kill one of those 3 or less to get Harken, otherwise you get Karel. That's it.
My Marcus is so broken I have to keep him away from enemies. On a single enemy phase, he took basically no damage and then one shot 7 consecutive enemies that kept marching straight to their deaths.
I'm playing Elli Normal route right now.... Hawkeye is amazing! Has resistance and I cap at chapter 24 I believe in the arena. I manipulated his stats growth every time he would level up and oh god! Raven is amazing with Priscilla and Lucius support but Pris has horrible stats. Even Serra is MUCH MUCH more stronger than her. Oswin is so OP that I am amazed that I never used him... sadly Marcus dont go in my party anymore... his stats dont provide much.... Hector with Elli is good not amazing and that is before the promotion... I tried to lv Guy but he got so fragile and the arena tries he got murdered so easily that I gave up on him.... I am trying to lv Lyn with Florina but they are getting the most rough time this run.... and Florina never got many resistance which is sad as heck.... Erk funily enough I paired with Serra and is doing good... but his stats are a mess.... I'm trying to hold to Nino since I love her and she needs care. Legault got much better than Mathew but I'm still gonna use Jaffar to grow Nino up.
arena abusing in Eliwood normal? and you decide people are bad because they get killed in the arena? You know that Guy is one of the dodgies characters if done right who can solo Eli normal? Oh you like Nino - no poins in continuing talking LOL
Few days ago I finally managed to beat this game. I had it on my old gameboy, but it was too hard when I was young. When I managed to beat the final boss, and then I watched some reviews about this game, I realized that I missed so much... I mean, I don't even know a lot from these characters... This game is shockingly amazing, how many storylines and characters oh my gosh... I have to play again I think... 😅 I realized as well that I finished the game mostly with shit/low tiered characters😂😂 Anyway, I agree with Marcus and Florina... My two favourites. I also love the relationship between Erk and Serra. Serra was my main cleric. Rebecca and Rath were my archers. And from the lord tier, Lyn was my best and Hector was my worst. Maybe I couldn't level him up enough. Aaah must do it again from the beginning 😂
Rath is the best bow unit in the game though. He can double every enemy in the game except morph Uhai and morph Loyd (idk how to spell his name). He’ll cap speed, strength, and skill very fast. He also has insane movement and can use swords. Geitz is just too slow to double anything good.
You call Pent "hands down the best character" yet then state Marcus as the best character in the game. We're you planning on updating this video later?
Marcus shouldn't be fed XP at the beginning, but he is somewhat viable to take down threatening units (Killing weapon units for example) or Archers that might pose a threat to fliers. Plus Marcus hands down is the best rescue / carry unit early on, 8 move is just astounding. I don't love Marcus, but I wouldn't say he sucks if you look at him objectively and what he's capable of providing :)
I enjoyed watching this video, love fire emblem content especially FE7. But this tier list is a bit of hodgepodge. I feel it doesn’t cater to anyone newcomers, casuals or veterans. Asides from that, The placement of some characters I do have a bone to pick with. I’ll just mention where I think they should be & if anyone is curious, I don’t mind elaborating. Renault belongs in low tier Lyn should be in low tier behind Eliwood Canas should be mid tier with Erk and Lucius Raven should be closer to top tier, definitely above Guy Fiora belongs in Top tier Lowen belongs in top tier (even with Kent and Sain having lyn mode Lowen bases so good he’s not to far from wherever they left off) Nino belongs in shit tier Isadora should definitely be closer to Kent Priscilla should be in top tier Sain belongs in top tier along with the rest of the cavaliers and isadora the paladin.
your tier list belongs to shit tier, Nino is simply the Best, in the next 2 chapters after get her u can easily raise a 20/12 or Even more, the girl can sweep entire cog of fate alone if u use your brain
@@VoidSpvrkylmao but why would you do that besides favoritism, you could make just about anyone with 1-2 range access sweep Cog of Destiny. Hell, you could probably even get Bartre to do it with less babying than Nino requires.
If you love Guy you should know his name is actually pronounced as ghee lol, I believe its french? (tbf its hard to know, not like the original has voice acting)
I cannot believe anyone would put dart in mid tier, average stats would put him at near capping hp speed and strength by 20/20, and berserker has weirdly high caps so his uncapped stats are higher than other characters capped stats. His defense is not significantly worst than other high and top tier units on your list, and his speed means he will dodge a lot of attacks. Also zerk is the only ground unit that can enter peak and water, there are several maps where you can plant only dart safely due to the amount of water and bows in the area.
@user-th1he5zv7u the point is that his growths are high enough to hit his caps, which is higher then normal, this means that he has higher than most through out the game not just at the end. His bases at level 8 is higher than many characters average, at that level its in no way low, and he fills a role no one else does.
@user-th1he5zv7u because by the time you get Hawkeye there are not many water or mountain maps left. And there is no rule that you have to limit yourself to one berzerker.
My top 5 characters in this game strictly for battle are Kent - best cavalry character. Spd and skl almost always maxes. Pretty good strength and def. Low luck but honestly its not that important for him. Great hp and honestly hes op Lucius - magic tank and mag maxes out every single time. Low def and luck which sucks. For him low luck matters but just keep him outta harms way from physical units. Bros heals are op too oh and he hits mad hard with good spd too Hector - honestly axe units suck in this game EXCEPT for Hector. Dude really not even slow either. His constitution also is so damn great. Atk and def stat are godly. Love em. Bro never fails Nino - you get her late but seriously shes ridiculous if you make her gain every level. I did not expect her to be as powerful as she is. Give her 1 health item. She'll be your best magic user Heath - flying Kent. Dudes a monster. Best flying unit in the game. Special mentions Canus - only dark mage. Luna is the best magic in the game. Hes mandatory Jaffar - honestly his one hit kill activates more than Matthew and Legault. I always make him kill Darrin in the final battle. I love watching him one shot whoever Pent - hes the best anima mage until Nino. Bro is kinda flawless. No lie a couple play throughs he maxed def. Shit blew my mind Gilliam - this mf is slow Hector but tanks harder. He just might be the slowest character but maxed general Gilly is no joke outchea. Give em the boots item. He barely takes physical damage Raven - his defensive stats suck but that's it. Bro hits hard and is fast af. Hes better than Harken. Plus the hero class is great. I save all my defense raising items for him
Got some really hot takes here. Nino is way too high imo. In order to use her you need to start feeding her kills, because she's basically incapable of fighting anything on her own, even other mages. She's worse than almost every other magic user in the game. The pegasus utility is Florina>Fiora>Farina. Florina has the best availability of the 3, which is what matters most in their case. Fiora is a decent replacement, but Farina's late recruit and 10k gold cost easily sees her as the least good of the 3. Don't forget, Farina is also exclusive to Hector mode for some reason, so a good amount of players never even see her. Eliwood should be higher than Lyn also. Lyn is swordlocked until promotion and gains bows, meaning all she has is the 2 worst weapons in the game and almost no strength to use them with. Eliwood gains a mount and lances on promotion, which on it's own makes him a better unit. Eliwood also gets a way better prf weapon for the final chapter. Lyn's for some reason weighs more than a silver axe, meaning she can very possibly get doubled when holding it, which is bad for a unit that can't take more than 1 hit. It's not a very big difference, but I feel like Bartre should be higher than Dorcas, almost entirely due to the better speed growth. His base is worse, sure, but they both come in at the point where growth units are still competing just fine with the enemies. Athos is also way too high. His stats make him a good crutch if your units aren't very good, but having basically 0 availability makes it so the final chapter is the extent of his usefulness, and if your units are good enough you wouldn't even need him in the first place.
while renault is not great by any means usually altest on HHM with reduced xp gain and without grinding out maps usually he will fine a way to you endgame squad. hes got A rank in staff so his stats simply dont matter. Canas is a really good unite id say B tier definalty the best unpromoted Mage simply promot at level 10 maby 11 or 12 and hell be very usefull. obviously the same is true for the other mages but they need levels while canas starts at level 8. and engame hes a second luna user while he´ll never be as good as athos he should to quit a number on lots of morph bosses. Raven is also a bit low on that list he does everythig guy does but better while guy need crits to kil raven doesnt. also there are only 2 viable options for the hero crest and hero beast out swordmaster in fe7. Handaxes are just way to good, obviously nino is horrendouse ,but you said you value engame really high so i guess its fine putting her pretty high. Isadora is a bit to high i dont think shes bad but shes average at best by the time you get her she will be your 3rd or even 4th best cave and usually you dont need a 3red paladin at that point in the game because this is the time in the game where ususally you fliers will have grown to a point where they can do the same as cavs and even more. and heath will be there within 1-2 chapters.
Holy terrible list. >Dart above Geitz >Guy anywhere above bad >Nino anywhere above bad >saying Vaida has "bad base stats" and putting Isadora above her >Saying Lowen has "bad availability" >Saying Farina is better than Heath
My list isn't entirely different, but if you have god tier, I'd almost always (for GBA FEs only) put riders and fliers in the god tier. These are my personal reasons why all mounted units are god tier: 1. Literally all the mounted units have great movement range, even unpromoted, and movement is king along with the speed stat. 2. All of them can rescue or carry any other unit to vital map choke points (which is far too often overlooked, guess people don't utilize this as much as they should). All of a sudden Oswin can become more viable, simply because you carry him to create a wall on a bridge tile or in a castle choke point, etc. 3. All of them have 2 range attacks! "Javaliers" are just sooooo good, yes if faced with axe enemies it could get a bit risky or even dangerous, but hopefully the bare minimum strategizing should help with that (plus Cavaliers do have swords for those occasions). Obviously don't let a flying unit try to javelin against archers, but DO let a Pegaus Knight javelin all the mages to death :D 4. In general, mounted units have quite decent stat growths. Sure the Pegasus Knights might be a bit weaker and more on the speedy side, but looking at the Cavaliers and Wyvern Knights, their stats are solid with good defense. Their speed won't be as high as Swordmasters or Thieves, but in general its sufficient enough to two hit most other units like the enemy Fighters or Mercenaries. Not to even mention squishy and slower units like Shamen or Archers.
*looking at my Bartre and Dorcas complettly obliterarting the Early to Midgame while plucking Wyvernriders out of the Sky in the lategame* .... man if thats Shit Tier i dont wanna know what the good Tier is. I mean seriously? Eliwood Low Tier as well as Canas, Dark Tomes to Heavy to use, Lousie in Low Tier because she is a Sniper? Isadora High Tier? This is such a confusing list. Canas high Speed makes the Tome weight irrelevant. Give him a Flux Tome and see him wreck house, also he is an aditional Healer. Eliwood is not good but he is perfectly medicore and not bad. Louise is literally ur sure fire answer to late game Luna Druides thanks to her Insane Luck. Isadora is literally "Meh" in all aspects falling short every so slightly when it counts. I dont know how much experiences u have in Blazing Blade, it sounded like u played it a lot as a child, but u seem to have a very confusing viw on whats important.
Why everyone says that cavaliers are the best class? , those bastards always die in my runs , and are useless paladin later with no gimmick. Raven was the god tier of my run , as well as rath the nomad. for magic users Erk helped me a lot with armors in the entire game , yea sure nino is 10 times better but she comes with an useless lvl . by far my favorite class are assassin , i got converted my 2 thiefs legault and mathew to assassin on hector hard mode . Pegasus knights always sucks on my runs , they just get 1 shoted by archers . and they come really weak with slim lance. to much effort you have to put on them.
You can tell when people didn’t spend hours leveling up people in arena based on how they rank people. Like I spent hour leveling up every character to level 20 before promoting them. And it’s very sad to see people rank characters so low that are amazing if you actually level them up to level 20 before promoting them. The pre promotes are always worse than any character that can promote and Marcus being ranked so high is crazy despite him being a oifey both Kent and again far outclass him. Rebecca and wil are amazing units. Movement is not everything in this game and I know people do these ironman challanges and speed runs etc but like this is just a really outdated manner for actually ranking people
@@windhelmguard5295 people are still on about this argument? You can still easily train all the earlygame units that actually matter while using Marcus liberally, and you can even throw in a meme or two like Rebecca or the fighters. He doesn’t “fall off hard” either, most fe7 enemies are weak enough that he’ll still be keeping up into the mid-lategame. The unpromoted cavs only catch up when they promote, and even then Marcus’ far superior weapon ranks mean that he can pretty much make up for that difference. And if you’re only looking at that, you need to intentionally ignore how much he DOMINATES the earlygame. It’s fine if you don’t like using him, but you can’t deny just how overcentralizing he is.
Im happy we are finally past the horrible GameFAQ days of people thinking Marcus is trash
Honestly, I thought he was meant to be the instructor type, killing enemies that prove too dangerous, like an emergency button, or weakening then so a scrub could get a kill
@@alheimianservant1499 He is, they just didn't nerf him well like the other Jagen units are supposed to.
Back in the day where characters were judged on how good your link arena team was rather than LTC or ranked runs. Unironically that's probably why they gave high ratings to characters like Nino and low ratings for Marcus.
he is trash, people thinking that LTC is the absolute way to qualify the characters are a bunch of filfhty bastards.
I always felt like pre-promoted were characters I was meant to bench once I felt like I was good at the game
There are major hot takes in this tier list lol.
This video made me realize how unique every play through is. In my playthrough, units like Raven, Erk and Rath were 1-rounding everything while Guy and Sain were RNG screwed and sucked.
Rath? Really? Never had space to train him to be of any use
Love this. Brings back so many memories. Always liked Lynn as a lord. I used to do an all female team and was a fun challenge.
5:10 Fiora isn't prepromoted
I'll say canas is a very reliable mage. He starts at level 8 which means he is 2 levels away from an early promotion (though i keep him a shaman for a few more levels because personal hitches). His promotion gives him a ton of speed, enough to double most enemies. His promotion also gives him staff access. It is at E rank but if you promote him early he can start gaining staff ranks quite quickly. As the game goes his growths will scale him just right even if you promote him at the earlier levels. He can do some serious enemy phase with 1-2 range flux and nosferatu to restore his health. He also turns into a reliable staffer. So i say he's pretty good.
For me he undervalued Canas too.
With nosferatu and as +10lvl druid he can just drain tank whole maps of enemies. Rng blessed erk and pent can do that with luck, but canas is impossible to take down by basic hard mode enemies while nosferatu equipped. Also being only dark mage user beside Athos makes him use resources that would not otherwise get used. For me Erk is always just a free fire / thunder tome for Prins/Pent. :D
Respect the monocle..
It feels like cheating when I use a high level Canas with Luna. It’s just that strong. In most of my playthroughs he maxed magic, speed, and resistance. He also gets really high defense and hp for his class. Imo best character, he just feels like cheating especially against high resistance bosses.
I just like Canas
There was that one chapter where you had to stop Pent from killing all the enemies. The man is apex!!
Living Legend! a fitting name for Pent
I remember being blown away by how strong he was. I was like, “How am I going to rescue this guy?” Then one turn later. “…oh.”
It’s actually crazy that I had to bench pent because I overleveled my units so much.
Pretty sure living legend was referencing Hawkeye though. Was it not? Still an amazing chapter!!
That John Cena joke is truly unfunny
Yes! I was played FE7 for the first time at school a few days ago! ( My data got deleted since I closed the tab on my computer but I'm okay.) I really enjoyed the game so far. I'll use this tier list to help me when I get an actual save file.
Edit: Thanks to Nintendo Switch Online, I got a save file!
i love how you will call a unit trash while casually showing the one shot a boss or something
Love the video. Couple placements I don’t agree with but it’s not a huge deal. But if you care to know;
Nino- opportunity cost of using her vs just beating the chapters without babying her makes her low tier for me.
Raven - high tier unit, ridiculous combat stats at base and when promoted can equip a hand axe and decimate armies
Canas - mid/high tier unit, the guy can nearly insta promote upon getting him and has just good enough combat stats to carry him through the game with just flux alone. And Luna is really strong for taking out bosses. Cheesing the final boss with him is hilarious
Those are legitimate criticisms. I could agree here.
Canas on low tier? Give me a break
I've loved using most units, Rebecca & Lowen are fun to use together, Dorcas is considerably better than Bartre, and Canas is a very good mage, just a shame there are not more dark tomes.
Hector lower than Hawkeye!? Hawkeye wishes he was Hector. His dream is to be Hector. Hawkeye has a motivational poster featuring Hector next to his gym because he IDOLIZES Hector. Dont believe me? Check out their average stats on Serernes Forest, or just Hector's general growths compared to everyone. Dont worry Hawkeye, you're a good unit, but you just arent Hector.
Hector doubles most enemies in the game, has the highest or close to highest HP, Str, def in the game and will probably cap is skill (which is also high). He moves better than other armored units. His decent res is the closest thing he has to a weakness but dont tell that to the mage he just 1 hit KOed.
Quite simply, Hector should be God tier. He is the best enemy phase unit in the game bar none. You dont worry about anyone killing Hector, you worry about Hector killing too many and hogging the exp. Even the best mages you dont put on the frontline because the enemy still has a chance to murder them (even if its generally sub 10%).
😂 I stand corrected.
@@locloudanerpg lol its ok, in some sense the tier list does makes sense, but it all comes down to how you play the game. If you are trying for absolute lowest turn counts/speed runs, sure. Hectors issue is that his con is really high meaning mounted units cant carry his big butt. Horses have limits. But for players who want to just want to play casually or even just beat hard mode and participate in every optional piece of content, Hector is a walking statistical god.
Amen, Hector carried me hard through the game and his placement triggered me bigly
I agree. One think I love about him is he's surprisingly fast. Bro can't be stopped
Hawkeye is definitely better than Hector lol
Fiora is not pre-promoted as you claimed. I just played that chapter yesterday.
Indeed. Farina, the Hector exclusive sister is the one that is pre-promoted.
@@Iridium-77-g No, she isnt either. You just get an elysian whip in the same chapter you recruit her.
There are a few placements that are eyebrow raising but the bottom and top tier are undisputable good vid
Whats the most questionable?
@@locloudanerpgprobably Raven below Guy and Nino. Raven probably has the best physical combat in the entire game, and his existence basically invalidates Guy. At level 5, the average Guy will have 1 less strength and speed, and 3 less con. The only relevant growth Guy has over Raven is speed, which really doesn’t matter since both of them are going to be doubling everything anyways. What really makes Raven so much better though is his promotion, since it gives him access to 1-2 range with axes, which lets him destroy everything he fights on enemy phase. That’s something guy will never be able to do, no matter what his stats are. As for Nino, yeah she should just be down in shit tier, she’s easily the worst unit in the game. At the very least Bartre and Dorcas can deal chip damage to enemies in the earlygame, whereas if you’re using Nino then you’re actively holding back units like Raven or Pent just so that the frail little magical girl can get a kill on an enemy you had to bring down to like 3 hp. And what do you get after all that hassle? A slightly better Erk, who isn’t even a top tier unit himself.
@Edgeperor legit I had to do a double take at both Raven being below Guy and Matthew above Heath, and I say this as a massive Matthew fan
This was a gamer changing type of game for me that helped me step up to that next level
It's interesting to see how people's plays can vary.
I'm on Ch. 26 (Yes, THAT chapter) on the switch port. For whatever reason, my Canas is cracked.
His growth just got love in aaalll the right stats. He can double like mad, can eat huge hits, and he's like carrying me some maps. It's nuts.
That's why I like seeing videos like this. It's just neat how certain stats on level ups can really make or break a guy. 😅
Dude I used Canas, Guy and Wrath in my playthrough and loved it.
That’s because Canas is cracked. On most, if not all of my runs he would be able to one round almost every enemy and Nosferatu allowed him to heal if anything managed to hit him, which wasn’t very often.
This game brought back so many memories. I’m stuck on it again on my phone on that simulator. It’s so fun!
Ok but Lucius needs to be in the God tier. He's just an absolute must for every single one of my playthroughs.
In one playthrough I substituted Lucius with Serra just to try things out. Serra came out with every stat maxed except defense. Lucius is definitely better because he is much easier to train and has better growths (I just got RNG blessed with Serra) but boy was it fun deleting everything with her.
Matthew being ranked above Jaffar and Legault is so silly but my bias approves
Viability is something tho. He helped you steal and open things until legault is recruited
IIRC Lyn can use bows after promotion. 🤔
It took almost 2 minutes for this video to start.
I remember reading about Fire Emblem in Nintendo Power and thinking, I really want it when it comes to the States.
Rebecca and Lowen are my all time favorite power couple. She is an unhittable crit machine and he is a tank. I love to drop them on a busy map and let them clean house, or keep them on the back end of Night of Farewells and Cog of Destiny and let them stonewall the flyers.
The john cenas were annoying as hell. Mix your audio levels better
A very good list albeit with some weird placings like Canas too low and Lowen behind the other cavs (you hint to Lyn mode training so ok), BUT the respect you showed to Isadora made me forget everything. Well done!
Haha glad I was able to skirt that line.
Awesome list and super helpful as play through this game as adult rather than powering through as a kid with Marcus cause he's OP and Jaffar because I thought his animations were the best...even though I still think that.
The problem with getting Harken is you pretty much have to plan for the dude. You'd have to intentionally mostly use Dorcas, Bartre, and Guy, otherwise you'll have to play slow af opening at most 1 door for 9 turns 25 chapters into the game.... I'll almost always take Karel lol
Actually, this is backwards:
Using the Hero Crest users GETS you the Jerme version (which is the one with all the doors)
Using the GUIDING RING users (minus Canas) gets you the Kenneth version (which has no doors, and is also seize, not rout)
It's a lot simpler to plan for Harken in Jerme version because all you have to do is... not open the topmost room. You can even open Jerme's own room and kill him early to be in position, but honestly half the time the snow means you aren't even there yet
Conversely, on Kenneth version you have to specifically not kill a Purge Bishop for... 8 turns to make sure Harken shows up, which is risky because said Purge Bishop has a real chance of killing your squishier support units like Ninian. Alternatively, there's a Sage/General with a Speedwing you can ignore but, uh... they charge you and also it's a Speedwing.
I literally didnt know karel was in the game as a kid because out of like 5 play throughs i had gotten harken every single time
@@red5t653actually isn't. If you killed less than 5 prepromoted enemies before turn 8 then you get Harken. If you killed them all you get Karel
@@sanae99.9.9 No I've played that map before and I know for a fact it's specifically a Purge Bishop, a Sage/General, and a Druid/Sniper (depending on mode) that you have to keep track of.
Kill one of those 3 or less to get Harken, otherwise you get Karel. That's it.
@@red5t653still incorrect but close. The requirement is to not kill more than 2 promoted units in the Kenneth version to get harken.
Replayed this game and Canas really can hold his own if given a fewlevels and good rng even with the lightest tome.
My Marcus is so broken I have to keep him away from enemies. On a single enemy phase, he took basically no damage and then one shot 7 consecutive enemies that kept marching straight to their deaths.
Marcus was the first unit I benched ASAP. Along with almost all other pre-promoted characters.
@user-th1he5zv7u Sure, but I enjoy training weak units and try to make them strong.
Lowen being the worst cavalier? Dude was tankier than any knight I've ever had.
Yeah Lowen is consistently the best cav for me, he's basically an armoured knight on a horse.
I don't like using him because he's just not fun to use but he's objectively a pretty good unit
I recall Rebecca being a bloomer, with a little cautious investment she becomes an unhittable murder machine
I'm playing Elli Normal route right now....
Hawkeye is amazing! Has resistance and I cap at chapter 24 I believe in the arena. I manipulated his stats growth every time he would level up and oh god!
Raven is amazing with Priscilla and Lucius support but Pris has horrible stats. Even Serra is MUCH MUCH more stronger than her.
Oswin is so OP that I am amazed that I never used him... sadly Marcus dont go in my party anymore... his stats dont provide much....
Hector with Elli is good not amazing and that is before the promotion...
I tried to lv Guy but he got so fragile and the arena tries he got murdered so easily that I gave up on him....
I am trying to lv Lyn with Florina but they are getting the most rough time this run.... and Florina never got many resistance which is sad as heck....
Erk funily enough I paired with Serra and is doing good... but his stats are a mess.... I'm trying to hold to Nino since I love her and she needs care.
Legault got much better than Mathew but I'm still gonna use Jaffar to grow Nino up.
Also... I'm trying to lv Lyn so she can use bows in her promo.
Also also, Dorcas was faster than Bartre odly enough but both got benched....
arena abusing in Eliwood normal? and you decide people are bad because they get killed in the arena? You know that Guy is one of the dodgies characters if done right who can solo Eli normal?
Oh you like Nino - no poins in continuing talking LOL
@@furyon9816 nobody can solo the last stage of eli norrmal.
But Pris - Anima
Serra - light
@@windhelmguard5295 Canas can tho.
This is the most 2008 FE7 tier list dude Nino over Canas and Renault because growths are so valuable
All your FE list, well all your lists really, are so interesting, but how come there’s no Engage? (Unless I somehow missed it) did you not enjoy it?
@@fd5934 haven’t played it yet. It’s on the list though
Hope you enjoy when you do. It gets a lot heat from the story but I had fun with the combat so I look forward to a list if it ever happens.
@@fd5934 I didn’t care for three houses and everyone raved about that one. I like classic FE so I think I’ll like Engage better.
Few days ago I finally managed to beat this game. I had it on my old gameboy, but it was too hard when I was young. When I managed to beat the final boss, and then I watched some reviews about this game, I realized that I missed so much... I mean, I don't even know a lot from these characters... This game is shockingly amazing, how many storylines and characters oh my gosh... I have to play again I think... 😅 I realized as well that I finished the game mostly with shit/low tiered characters😂😂
Anyway, I agree with Marcus and Florina... My two favourites. I also love the relationship between Erk and Serra. Serra was my main cleric. Rebecca and Rath were my archers. And from the lord tier, Lyn was my best and Hector was my worst. Maybe I couldn't level him up enough. Aaah must do it again from the beginning 😂
@@Pali.Keller haha I hear you. I like Serra and Erk together as well.
Always happy to see you. Think you could do Thousand Arms?
Oh man I’ve wanted to for years! I should just go for it!!
jaffar was underrated. because he did a 1 hit KO on the final boss when the boss is in full HP.. i was very shocked to witness that
“Rath is the best bow unit in the game”
-Geitz getting ready to leap from the top rope-
Rath is the best bow unit in the game though. He can double every enemy in the game except morph Uhai and morph Loyd (idk how to spell his name). He’ll cap speed, strength, and skill very fast. He also has insane movement and can use swords. Geitz is just too slow to double anything good.
You call Pent "hands down the best character" yet then state Marcus as the best character in the game. We're you planning on updating this video later?
Raven as a champion is the real MVP. Amazing game btw.
Honestly I probably sank more time into this one game then any other gba game haha!
Marcus sucks….
JOHN CENA!!!
😂
Marcus shouldn't be fed XP at the beginning, but he is somewhat viable to take down threatening units (Killing weapon units for example) or Archers that might pose a threat to fliers. Plus Marcus hands down is the best rescue / carry unit early on, 8 move is just astounding. I don't love Marcus, but I wouldn't say he sucks if you look at him objectively and what he's capable of providing :)
Naaaaaaaah Marcus is the worst no wifu no lifu.
@@blackchappel6376 lol
Well you convinced me.. that Marcus is the worst.. I appreciate your donation to this conversation :).
There is only one correct answer to this question, Hawkeye, he is perfect in every way.
Cool vid, do you the entire list in one chart, to use it as reference when building my team?
Whats with the whole "John Cena/Hector" thing?
Maybe it's because they both very similar in looks and they're both powerful.
I enjoyed watching this video, love fire emblem content especially FE7. But this tier list is a bit of hodgepodge. I feel it doesn’t cater to anyone newcomers, casuals or veterans.
Asides from that, The placement of some characters I do have a bone to pick with. I’ll just mention where I think they should be & if anyone is curious, I don’t mind elaborating.
Renault belongs in low tier
Lyn should be in low tier behind Eliwood
Canas should be mid tier with Erk and Lucius
Raven should be closer to top tier, definitely above Guy
Fiora belongs in Top tier
Lowen belongs in top tier (even with Kent and Sain having lyn mode Lowen bases so good he’s not to far from wherever they left off)
Nino belongs in shit tier
Isadora should definitely be closer to Kent
Priscilla should be in top tier
Sain belongs in top tier along with the rest of the cavaliers and isadora the paladin.
Nice, I can agree with most of these. I appreciate the feedback!
your tier list belongs to shit tier, Nino is simply the Best, in the next 2 chapters after get her u can easily raise a 20/12 or Even more, the girl can sweep entire cog of fate alone if u use your brain
@@VoidSpvrkylmao but why would you do that besides favoritism, you could make just about anyone with 1-2 range access sweep Cog of Destiny. Hell, you could probably even get Bartre to do it with less babying than Nino requires.
If you love Guy you should know his name is actually pronounced as ghee lol, I believe its french? (tbf its hard to know, not like the original has voice acting)
😂 I had no idea.
I cannot believe anyone would put dart in mid tier, average stats would put him at near capping hp speed and strength by 20/20, and berserker has weirdly high caps so his uncapped stats are higher than other characters capped stats. His defense is not significantly worst than other high and top tier units on your list, and his speed means he will dodge a lot of attacks. Also zerk is the only ground unit that can enter peak and water, there are several maps where you can plant only dart safely due to the amount of water and bows in the area.
@user-th1he5zv7u the point is that his growths are high enough to hit his caps, which is higher then normal, this means that he has higher than most through out the game not just at the end. His bases at level 8 is higher than many characters average, at that level its in no way low, and he fills a role no one else does.
@user-th1he5zv7u because by the time you get Hawkeye there are not many water or mountain maps left. And there is no rule that you have to limit yourself to one berzerker.
Lyn is my favorite Mary Sue because she was my first
I love to hear tier for suikoden 3 and radiata stories
I think Radiata Stories should be soon, followed by Suikoden 3.
I'm playing this gane for the 1st time . Who does the black magic?
canaas and athos.
5:10. What? This is just wrong. She is not prepromoted.
Dorcas is great man!
‘Luna’ is great. Also, correct subtitles please
I don’t know about this list lmao
My top 5 characters in this game strictly for battle are
Kent - best cavalry character. Spd and skl almost always maxes. Pretty good strength and def. Low luck but honestly its not that important for him. Great hp and honestly hes op
Lucius - magic tank and mag maxes out every single time. Low def and luck which sucks. For him low luck matters but just keep him outta harms way from physical units. Bros heals are op too oh and he hits mad hard with good spd too
Hector - honestly axe units suck in this game EXCEPT for Hector. Dude really not even slow either. His constitution also is so damn great. Atk and def stat are godly. Love em. Bro never fails
Nino - you get her late but seriously shes ridiculous if you make her gain every level. I did not expect her to be as powerful as she is. Give her 1 health item. She'll be your best magic user
Heath - flying Kent. Dudes a monster. Best flying unit in the game.
Special mentions
Canus - only dark mage. Luna is the best magic in the game. Hes mandatory
Jaffar - honestly his one hit kill activates more than Matthew and Legault. I always make him kill Darrin in the final battle. I love watching him one shot whoever
Pent - hes the best anima mage until Nino. Bro is kinda flawless. No lie a couple play throughs he maxed def. Shit blew my mind
Gilliam - this mf is slow Hector but tanks harder. He just might be the slowest character but maxed general Gilly is no joke outchea. Give em the boots item. He barely takes physical damage
Raven - his defensive stats suck but that's it. Bro hits hard and is fast af. Hes better than Harken. Plus the hero class is great. I save all my defense raising items for him
When I said Gilliam I meant Oswin. My fault lol
Canas is literally just Lucius but better. Better growths, better magic type, and better starting level.
@@Khaizen10 canas never gets a higher mag or res stat than Lucius. But I agree his class is better
@@raysevere5417that’s true. Canas is much more durable overall imo.
Isadora over Raven is a crime.
another boring video saying that marcus is the best , and cavaliers the best class. boooring.
Got some really hot takes here.
Nino is way too high imo. In order to use her you need to start feeding her kills, because she's basically incapable of fighting anything on her own, even other mages. She's worse than almost every other magic user in the game. The pegasus utility is Florina>Fiora>Farina. Florina has the best availability of the 3, which is what matters most in their case. Fiora is a decent replacement, but Farina's late recruit and 10k gold cost easily sees her as the least good of the 3. Don't forget, Farina is also exclusive to Hector mode for some reason, so a good amount of players never even see her.
Eliwood should be higher than Lyn also. Lyn is swordlocked until promotion and gains bows, meaning all she has is the 2 worst weapons in the game and almost no strength to use them with. Eliwood gains a mount and lances on promotion, which on it's own makes him a better unit. Eliwood also gets a way better prf weapon for the final chapter. Lyn's for some reason weighs more than a silver axe, meaning she can very possibly get doubled when holding it, which is bad for a unit that can't take more than 1 hit.
It's not a very big difference, but I feel like Bartre should be higher than Dorcas, almost entirely due to the better speed growth. His base is worse, sure, but they both come in at the point where growth units are still competing just fine with the enemies. Athos is also way too high. His stats make him a good crutch if your units aren't very good, but having basically 0 availability makes it so the final chapter is the extent of his usefulness, and if your units are good enough you wouldn't even need him in the first place.
Good hot takes honestly. The Lords were so hard to place. Nino being lower makes sense and f#%^ Batre 😂
I have beaten every FE game with no paladin classes. I ride my crew of them everytime
I've watched this 3 times.
Because it’s a good video?
i have never disagreed more with a list...but hey, different perspectives
What’s your biggest disagreements?
Hector is God!!!
while renault is not great by any means usually altest on HHM with reduced xp gain and without grinding out maps usually he will fine a way to you endgame squad. hes got A rank in staff so his stats simply dont matter.
Canas is a really good unite id say B tier definalty the best unpromoted Mage simply promot at level 10 maby 11 or 12 and hell be very usefull. obviously the same is true for the other mages but they need levels while canas starts at level 8. and engame hes a second luna user while he´ll never be as good as athos he should to quit a number on lots of morph bosses.
Raven is also a bit low on that list he does everythig guy does but better while guy need crits to kil raven doesnt. also there are only 2 viable options for the hero crest and hero beast out swordmaster in fe7. Handaxes are just way to good,
obviously nino is horrendouse ,but you said you value engame really high so i guess its fine putting her pretty high.
Isadora is a bit to high i dont think shes bad but shes average at best by the time you get her she will be your 3rd or even 4th best cave and usually you dont need a 3red paladin at that point in the game because this is the time in the game where ususally you fliers will have grown to a point where they can do the same as cavs and even more. and heath will be there within 1-2 chapters.
Holy terrible list.
>Dart above Geitz
>Guy anywhere above bad
>Nino anywhere above bad
>saying Vaida has "bad base stats" and putting Isadora above her
>Saying Lowen has "bad availability"
>Saying Farina is better than Heath
Man this has dumb hot takes but still interesting to see what others think.
Idk why, but I always liked Guy
@@wolf-marks9353 me too
If Hector is John Cena, how we able to see him?
You didn’t
Guy y raven aaaaa full 100% criticos gg
My list isn't entirely different, but if you have god tier, I'd almost always (for GBA FEs only) put riders and fliers in the god tier. These are my personal reasons why all mounted units are god tier:
1. Literally all the mounted units have great movement range, even unpromoted, and movement is king along with the speed stat.
2. All of them can rescue or carry any other unit to vital map choke points (which is far too often overlooked, guess people don't utilize this as much as they should). All of a sudden Oswin can become more viable, simply because you carry him to create a wall on a bridge tile or in a castle choke point, etc.
3. All of them have 2 range attacks! "Javaliers" are just sooooo good, yes if faced with axe enemies it could get a bit risky or even dangerous, but hopefully the bare minimum strategizing should help with that (plus Cavaliers do have swords for those occasions). Obviously don't let a flying unit try to javelin against archers, but DO let a Pegaus Knight javelin all the mages to death :D
4. In general, mounted units have quite decent stat growths. Sure the Pegasus Knights might be a bit weaker and more on the speedy side, but looking at the Cavaliers and Wyvern Knights, their stats are solid with good defense. Their speed won't be as high as Swordmasters or Thieves, but in general its sufficient enough to two hit most other units like the enemy Fighters or Mercenaries. Not to even mention squishy and slower units like Shamen or Archers.
*looking at my Bartre and Dorcas complettly obliterarting the Early to Midgame while plucking Wyvernriders out of the Sky in the lategame* .... man if thats Shit Tier i dont wanna know what the good Tier is. I mean seriously?
Eliwood Low Tier as well as Canas, Dark Tomes to Heavy to use, Lousie in Low Tier because she is a Sniper? Isadora High Tier? This is such a confusing list.
Canas high Speed makes the Tome weight irrelevant. Give him a Flux Tome and see him wreck house, also he is an aditional Healer.
Eliwood is not good but he is perfectly medicore and not bad.
Louise is literally ur sure fire answer to late game Luna Druides thanks to her Insane Luck.
Isadora is literally "Meh" in all aspects falling short every so slightly when it counts.
I dont know how much experiences u have in Blazing Blade, it sounded like u played it a lot as a child, but u seem to have a very confusing viw on whats important.
No mention of my boy dart huh?
I’m pretty sure he’s there in the mid tier?
Nice to finally see the tier list for this FE game. However, Fiora should've been ranked higher.
Guy above Raven? List is a joke.
Rebecca 199% críticos gg hablo en serio
Why everyone says that cavaliers are the best class? , those bastards always die in my runs , and are useless paladin later with no gimmick. Raven was the god tier of my run , as well as rath the nomad. for magic users Erk helped me a lot with armors in the entire game , yea sure nino is 10 times better but she comes with an useless lvl . by far my favorite class are assassin , i got converted my 2 thiefs legault and mathew to assassin on hector hard mode . Pegasus knights always sucks on my runs , they just get 1 shoted by archers . and they come really weak with slim lance. to much effort you have to put on them.
Lov IT
@Mekkah
*JOHN CENA MODE*
This is the worst list I have ever seen.
And Lyn is best lord
You can tell when people didn’t spend hours leveling up people in arena based on how they rank people. Like I spent hour leveling up every character to level 20 before promoting them. And it’s very sad to see people rank characters so low that are amazing if you actually level them up to level 20 before promoting them. The pre promotes are always worse than any character that can promote and Marcus being ranked so high is crazy despite him being a oifey both Kent and again far outclass him. Rebecca and wil are amazing units. Movement is not everything in this game and I know people do these ironman challanges and speed runs etc but like this is just a really outdated manner for actually ranking people
Athos equips areolas😂
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This list is pretty baf. Hector is easily God tier.
Rebecca in shit tier?!? are you mad? blasphemy
I remember I did a run where I fed everything to Rebecca and it was really fun.
Darts the best
I see why the dislike are so high, a lot of feelings got hurt lmao!
is this a LTC video?? booooooring then...
I don't know why Markus is the best, he is just horrible.
Uhh how?
@@Edgeperor because he hogs EXP early game and then falls off hard late game.
@@windhelmguard5295 people are still on about this argument? You can still easily train all the earlygame units that actually matter while using Marcus liberally, and you can even throw in a meme or two like Rebecca or the fighters. He doesn’t “fall off hard” either, most fe7 enemies are weak enough that he’ll still be keeping up into the mid-lategame. The unpromoted cavs only catch up when they promote, and even then Marcus’ far superior weapon ranks mean that he can pretty much make up for that difference. And if you’re only looking at that, you need to intentionally ignore how much he DOMINATES the earlygame. It’s fine if you don’t like using him, but you can’t deny just how overcentralizing he is.
Damn such arbitrary and bs tierlist lol
Equal your audio better that was so annoying