@@tanknd804 I have some special mod pads my friend printed from a design that another friend made... Here is the link to the guy who prints them! instagram.com/chiefrabbitpads/
Bro such a big honor to have you stop in! Thank you so much for the kind words!!! You taught me how to sort the pads, and tights in the winter!!! LOL- Love your energy and enthusiasm as well sir- cheers and all the joy and blessings to you and yours this holiday season!
We need the Master Pro to make sweet love to the V13 and the Sherman-S, so we can get a safe wheel like the V13, with the range of the Master and the suspension of the Sherman-S. And it should be max 30 kg.. Next year, Santa?
I couldn't have said it better! For almost 5 grand, we deserve the total package. I'm thinking of waiting till next year to see if one of these companies can check all the boxes for once.
They made the 116V RS w the batteries that don’t combust. Nobody bought it. Then they made the Hero weather proof and nobody bought it cause quality wheel costs more money.
Thanks for keeping it real and saying it really depends on what you want in a wheel. Gotta love me the V13!!!!!!! Quality over quantity all day every day!!!
I am with you there- in florida the rain just pops out at you and for that reason alone i just gotta be safe- But if i had all the money in the world, I would have both.
Great comparison 👏 question for you...Does your master have metal battery case? I heard they will be added one and since the battery is apart of the Master Pros structure component having the metal cast should make the build quality much better!
Awe thanks Caleb , the pads and the bar guards are from my buddy @chiefrabbitpads on ig, the design for the biggest part of the pad system comes from @ema_euc he designed them and sells design on cults3d.com
@@johnnygovroom Nice! Than's a lot better rage than I thought it was going to get compared to some other reviews. Sounds more reasonable for the price.
Different riders will inevitably lead to different results - we actually did a short drag race and Johnny smoked me using my MP and I was on his V13. However he is a better, more capable and more aggressive rider than me so it wasn't an entirely fair comparison. However the torque difference was nearly imperceptible with the edge going to the MP.
I'm 5'7 I want one of the new wheels. Either the Master/v13/ or Sherman s. I worry I may have an issue riding them though. I saw your friend is shorter than you. Just out of curiosity how tall is he. did he have difficulty? I work out so I'm rather heavy for my height I just worry it maybe an issue and 4500 is a lot to drop on a wheel I might not be able to rip.
that’s gonna be an amazing wheel- unfortunately with 4 in my stable and 2 new for the last 6 months - i just can’t pull that trigger - i’ll be posting a video soon of some stuff that the sherman will have hard time with. Stay tuned - but yes the S great wheel
@@johnnygovroom bruh its expensive AS FUCK. but you know what? every cents every penny was worth the fucking price tag. And i had to break all my savings to buy this beauty. But yes, if money wasn't an issue, Sherman S is the answer. But if I wanted a wheel thats slightly on budget i might go with either Inmotion v11 or v12 HT or Begode T4 / Begode Master / Begode RS / Begode Nikola+ 3 pack battery edition
@@EverlastingEclipses i don’t have the room for it - lol. And i don’t want to get rid of any of my wheels. v12ht, exn hs, master, v13 i just can’t clutter up my entry way anymore lol. It’s a great build , my buddy has one coming on tuesday. The footage will show up on the channel - Thanks for stopping in enjoy your day friend!
@@johnnygovroom You too my guy. Definitely install some fire extinguishers nearby and definitely have it places near entry way like you mentioned in case "something" although its highly highly unlikely ever. but Better Safe than Sorry ya know what im saying? I keep my old T1 wheel right next to my doorway at all times. LOL
Who is "you all"? They are both truly stellar wheels that both pack a ton of power under the hood, but our opinions had nothing to do with Kuji's V13 video.
LOL no. Which has the fastest free spin? Without the factory limiter, V13 would be faster by several miles per hour when riding. Possibly even double digits. The MP is geared for less top speed and has less overhead at the high end as a result. This makes it less safe. The V13 is SMARTLY geared toward speed (but still monstrously torquey) with a limiter to essentially guarantee safety at deadly high speeds. How anyone can argue against that is absurd to me. For what, a VERY slight acceleration edge at BEST that may actually be down to rider skill anyway? LOL After the strides in safety and build quality the V13 makes, it is going to be very hard to justify that kind of cash for anything less in those regards because THOSE should be the most important aspects.
@@Birahits I'm not wrong. You can look at videos of the Freewheel spin. The v13 has the fastest free wheel spin of any wheel ever made. That's the fact, and there's no getting around it. If the Master Pro was more powerful, it would have a faster free wheel spin. The point is that they are roughly the same in power, but one is designed to have a much higher top end with a limiter so that there's no chance of cutouts. How any moron could argue against this is beyond anybody with rudimentary thinking skills. In motion has set the bar, and that's that. And I'm a Leaperkim/Kingsong/Gotway owner dude.
@@johnnygovroom It's all good. Great vid! Thanks you guys for the information! I have my deposit on the Challenger, but I don't know if I might go with something else because of the battery size for the price. Kind of in limbo at the moment. lol
Hate to say this but concluding remarks is a fail, IMO atleast. I get they're not the same type wheels but one has to choose & elaborate the reasons. Anything else seems like a bail. I dont own either (& no plans to as neither fit my needs) but I get the impression you trying very hard to like the v13 & begrudgingly like the Master Pro. Very PC but I'm not getting much from you
We genuinely liked them both and discussed that a good bit on and off camera. I'm not much of a trail rider but I feel the V13 is slightly better for trails than the MP for its durability/waterproofing factor. As I think back on it, I honestly don't think the V13 has the range that I so deeply desire - whether or not I need it is another thing entirely. I'm happy with my decision to buy the master pro and Johnny truly seemed happy with his V13. It's all about what is important *to you* ultimately, whether it's waterproofing and durability, or range and (ever so slightly) more power, at the same price point.
At 12 minutes or so in the video you guys are talking about not messing it up for everyone and then right afterwards your passing pedestrians on the sidewalk at 30 mph. That's really stupid. Good way to get someone killed. You have a helmet. The pedestrians don't. All it takes is one wreck on the news and we'll be banned from sidewalks all over the country.
Oh god , lol- nah, we didn't actually if you watch the video- we identified them and lowered our speed to 3 mph - the lady in front of me however was rude , she refused to move or acknowledge me asking to pass. Wild stuff. I'm with you, i am an ambassador for this hobby and would never whiz by anyone. Its not safe , its not cute and it could ruin it for us all. I appreciate where the energy came from, but maybe next time do it a little nicer. Cheers I just realized youtube has a spot it keeps all the comments, sorry for the late reply.
@@Phytrax i understand your feels - a youtuber did a speed test on this wheel on a bike trail with people walking right next to them , there was ever a BABY STROLLER , i’m not saying names out of respect but - it baffled me and was so so uncool. I really do try to be polite and positive. Thanks for giving it a second look , that means so much. Cheers and be well friend
@@johnnygovroom ya man. My favorite part about the EUC is that I can go anywhere. It's almost like being able to fly. I dread the day when they ban us from sidewalks or parks. But just a couple days ago I was on a narrow path by the beach and I realized, OK I don't belong here, or at least not while there are people out
Excellent review! I have a deposit on the mp........but I've gotten caught in the rain too often.....I think I'm going to go with the V13!
What kind of side pads do you have on the V13?
@@tanknd804 I have some special mod pads my friend printed from a design that another friend made...
Here is the link to the guy who prints them!
instagram.com/chiefrabbitpads/
Love the excitement. The way the MP rider handles that beast gives me confidence. Great video
Bro such a big honor to have you stop in! Thank you so much for the kind words!!!
You taught me how to sort the pads, and tights in the winter!!! LOL-
Love your energy and enthusiasm as well sir- cheers and all the joy and blessings to you and yours this holiday season!
@@johnnygovroom haha most def man. Gotta keep warm lol. Enjoy your beast man. Congrats
@@UStride thanks bruv-
if you ever make it this way , you got a squad to ride with.
can always borrow one of my wheels as wellZ
@@johnnygovroom I don’t know man, the last video I saw @U-Stride toast that S20. Just messing, it was the wheel. 😂
The baddest rider in newberry merry Christmas everyone shout out to my old man
great comparison thanks for sharing
thanks so much Zen i appreciate you very much , can’t wait to ride with ya !
We need the Master Pro to make sweet love to the V13 and the Sherman-S, so we can get a safe wheel like the V13, with the range of the Master and the suspension of the Sherman-S.
And it should be max 30 kg..
Next year, Santa?
please santa -
we’ve
been good little boys and girls
I couldn't have said it better! For almost 5 grand, we deserve the total package. I'm thinking of waiting till next year to see if one of these companies can check all the boxes for once.
They made the 116V RS w the batteries that don’t combust. Nobody bought it. Then they made the Hero weather proof and nobody bought it cause quality wheel costs more money.
@@Kekafuch The hero was ugly, that's why I didn't buy it.
Thanks for keeping it real and saying it really depends on what you want in a wheel. Gotta love me the V13!!!!!!! Quality over quantity all day every day!!!
I am with you there- in florida the rain just pops out at you and for that reason alone i just gotta be safe- But if i had all the money in the world, I would have both.
@@johnnygovroom I wish Inmotion made the ex30.
V13 All day type c charger nice display
for my use case- on and off road in all scenarios... gotta have the v13, where are you planning to ride yours?
@@johnnygovroom mainly road i am a small dude it weighs almost asmuch as me either that or sherman s
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great information here !
thank you so much brother!!!
Awesome video thanks
Great comparison 👏 question for you...Does your master have metal battery case? I heard they will be added one and since the battery is apart of the Master Pros structure component having the metal cast should make the build quality much better!
this is not the master pro with the metal cases
but i’ve read the upgrade will be free for all of the people who have bought the m pro-
@@johnnygovroom okay I would love to know your thoughts on build quality compared to the v13 after you install it!
@@mazx19 i’ll have to ask rob as it was his wheel :/
I'll try to keep you in mind when it gets installed and let you know.😊
@@WheelGoodTime 🙏🏿
Awesome 😎 thanks boys!!🙏
You are so very welcome!
Thank you for stopping by!!!
LFG Johnny and Rob! Good shyt boys
Big Matt!!!! You gotta come into town one friday and charge at the shop so we can ride out after the shift!
@@johnnygovroom def brother!
@@CaughtInTheMiddle0823 i keep 100v charger at the shop
Hey Johny, Great video! Those are some really cool pads you have for the v13, I also love the bar covers where did you get those? What brand are they?
Awe thanks Caleb , the pads and the bar guards are from my buddy @chiefrabbitpads on ig, the design for the biggest part of the pad system comes from @ema_euc he designed them and sells design on cults3d.com
Damn, that Alien Rides jersey is sick 😜
i love mY AR jersey!
you gonna send me another one?
lol
@@johnnygovroom I only designed them. Kevin owns them 🤷🏽♂️
@@RocABye you know Kevin? Ask him to hook a slightly stupid homey up? I’m slightly stupid… this may work in my favor here
@@RocABye l.u.c.y._athletic on instagram-
Johnny Sainttellah on FB
I don’t really feed the content tho :/
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how many miles were you getting on the v13? (and at what average speed/type of riding)
how much range i should say
@@Zanzo7 my experience personally has been around 40-50 miles spirited and 60-70 casual-
@@johnnygovroom Nice! Than's a lot better rage than I thought it was going to get compared to some other reviews. Sounds more reasonable for the price.
There are wheels that belong in the sidewalk and wheels that belong in the street.
These are the latter.
these wheels are
rocket ships
you are 10000%
correct
Rob doesn’t know the street patterns here so we were being safe
which one seemed more powerful / quick / torque etc..? You guys should race each other from dead start quarter mile.
Different riders will inevitably lead to different results - we actually did a short drag race and Johnny smoked me using my MP and I was on his V13. However he is a better, more capable and more aggressive rider than me so it wasn't an entirely fair comparison. However the torque difference was nearly imperceptible with the edge going to the MP.
@@WheelGoodTime With Rob here, once it got going you couldnt stop either wheel. They are torquey powerful things. WITH tons of speed to booot!!!
@@WheelGoodTime Thanks for the feedback!
15:13 Really? The MP accelerate 3 times faster than the V13? You trying to make the V13 look bad by not fully leaned it?
Rob says it there-
he just doesn’t know how to push as hard as i do.
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i can roast most people on a an euc.
it’s just what i do-
if i was riding the challenger it would have looked the same-
I mean like if i was riding the challenger in this segment the m pro would have looked slow.
You act like you just got your hands on Alien tech and the government is trying to close the operation 😂
.... they are closing in... ON ALERT GENTLEMEN!!!
I'm 5'7 I want one of the new wheels. Either the Master/v13/ or Sherman s. I worry I may have an issue riding them though. I saw your friend is shorter than you. Just out of curiosity how tall is he. did he have difficulty?
I work out so I'm rather heavy for my height I just worry it maybe an issue and 4500 is a lot to drop on a wheel I might not be able to rip.
@rob loves his master pro and he rips it no problem
he’s a little shorter than i am -
i’m 5, 10
For thumbnail's answer: The answer is Sherman S. Resilience and Durability and Credibility and Range.
that’s gonna be an amazing wheel-
unfortunately with 4 in my stable and 2 new for the last 6 months -
i just can’t pull that trigger - i’ll be posting a video soon of some stuff that the sherman will have hard time with.
Stay tuned
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but yes the S
great wheel
@@johnnygovroom bruh its expensive AS FUCK. but you know what? every cents every penny was worth the fucking price tag. And i had to break all my savings to buy this beauty. But yes, if money wasn't an issue, Sherman S is the answer. But if I wanted a wheel thats slightly on budget i might go with either Inmotion v11 or v12 HT or Begode T4 / Begode Master / Begode RS / Begode Nikola+ 3 pack battery edition
@@EverlastingEclipses i don’t have the room for it -
lol.
And i don’t want to get rid of any of my wheels.
v12ht, exn hs, master, v13
i just can’t clutter up my entry way anymore lol.
It’s a great build , my buddy has one coming on tuesday. The footage will show up on the channel
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Thanks for stopping in
enjoy your day friend!
@@johnnygovroom You too my guy. Definitely install some fire extinguishers nearby and definitely have it places near entry way like you mentioned in case "something" although its highly highly unlikely ever. but Better Safe than Sorry ya know what im saying? I keep my old T1 wheel right next to my doorway at all times. LOL
@@EverlastingEclipses i only buy begode from ewheels- zero fail rate with the litech solution.
i can’t chance even a chance
To cut it short, Maspro is more powerful. You all got hyped by kuji’s review on v13.
Who is "you all"? They are both truly stellar wheels that both pack a ton of power under the hood, but our opinions had nothing to do with Kuji's V13 video.
LOL no. Which has the fastest free spin? Without the factory limiter, V13 would be faster by several miles per hour when riding. Possibly even double digits. The MP is geared for less top speed and has less overhead at the high end as a result. This makes it less safe.
The V13 is SMARTLY geared toward speed (but still monstrously torquey) with a limiter to essentially guarantee safety at deadly high speeds. How anyone can argue against that is absurd to me. For what, a VERY slight acceleration edge at BEST that may actually be down to rider skill anyway? LOL
After the strides in safety and build quality the V13 makes, it is going to be very hard to justify that kind of cash for anything less in those regards because THOSE should be the most important aspects.
@@sammysokosammysoko nope you are wrong period :) you are in the nation of inmotion . I get you. Whats you wheel now? Show youselft like my channel
@@WheelGoodTime still mp for me. And you know it deep inside lol
@@Birahits I'm not wrong. You can look at videos of the Freewheel spin. The v13 has the fastest free wheel spin of any wheel ever made. That's the fact, and there's no getting around it. If the Master Pro was more powerful, it would have a faster free wheel spin. The point is that they are roughly the same in power, but one is designed to have a much higher top end with a limiter so that there's no chance of cutouts. How any moron could argue against this is beyond anybody with rudimentary thinking skills. In motion has set the bar, and that's that. And I'm a Leaperkim/Kingsong/Gotway owner dude.
Tallahassee?
Gainesville 😊
of course it's not going to overheat. It's winer. lol
lol-
ya know… i feel silly-
you’re super right
@@johnnygovroom It's all good. Great vid! Thanks you guys for the information! I have my deposit on the Challenger, but I don't know if I might go with something else because of the battery size for the price. Kind of in limbo at the moment. lol
V13 all day - Begode is becoming crappy
Same here.
Hate to say this but concluding remarks is a fail, IMO atleast. I get they're not the same type wheels but one has to choose & elaborate the reasons. Anything else seems like a bail. I dont own either (& no plans to as neither fit my needs) but I get the impression you trying very hard to like the v13 & begrudgingly like the Master Pro. Very PC but I'm not getting much from you
We genuinely liked them both and discussed that a good bit on and off camera. I'm not much of a trail rider but I feel the V13 is slightly better for trails than the MP for its durability/waterproofing factor. As I think back on it, I honestly don't think the V13 has the range that I so deeply desire - whether or not I need it is another thing entirely. I'm happy with my decision to buy the master pro and Johnny truly seemed happy with his V13. It's all about what is important *to you* ultimately, whether it's waterproofing and durability, or range and (ever so slightly) more power, at the same price point.
At 12 minutes or so in the video you guys are talking about not messing it up for everyone and then right afterwards your passing pedestrians on the sidewalk at 30 mph. That's really stupid. Good way to get someone killed. You have a helmet. The pedestrians don't.
All it takes is one wreck on the news and we'll be banned from sidewalks all over the country.
Oh god , lol- nah, we didn't actually if you watch the video- we identified them and lowered our speed to 3 mph - the lady in front of me however was rude , she refused to move or acknowledge me asking to pass. Wild stuff.
I'm with you, i am an ambassador for this hobby and would never whiz by anyone. Its not safe , its not cute and it could ruin it for us all.
I appreciate where the energy came from, but maybe next time do it a little nicer.
Cheers
I just realized youtube has a spot it keeps all the comments, sorry for the late reply.
Fair enough. After watching it again you're right. I think it just looks faster because of the wide angle camera.
@@Phytrax i understand your feels - a youtuber did a speed test on this wheel on a bike trail with people walking right next to them , there was ever a BABY STROLLER , i’m not saying names out of respect but - it baffled me and was so so uncool.
I really do try to be polite and positive.
Thanks for giving it a second look , that means so much.
Cheers and be well friend
@@johnnygovroom ya man. My favorite part about the EUC is that I can go anywhere. It's almost like being able to fly. I dread the day when they ban us from sidewalks or parks. But just a couple days ago I was on a narrow path by the beach and I realized, OK I don't belong here, or at least not while there are people out