V13 Owner First Impressions - Wonders, Woes and Wobbles
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2023
- I finally got my InMotion V13 after all these months of waiting. It took some time to acclimate to this massive wheel but it was all worth it.
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Good save Doc. Been watching your videos for a bit now when I was getting out of the hospital and looking at wheelchairs I came across a EUC. Didn't know what it was and your channel was one I came across and caused me to ditch the chair and get a kingsong 14D. I have CRPS that spread everywhere but the 14 turned into an RS19 and now I hope to upgrade to a suspension wheel. In the middle of a wicked flair up so hopefully this summer. It's strange walking is very hard I need to concentrate but on the wheel I feel normal learning and spending my electric wheelchair money on the euc saved my life.
yeah buddy, I can ride my Inmotion V11 ALL DAY, yet I can't ride a bicycle at all without pain and can only walk slowly for a short time on a flat surface. EUC has dramatically improved my quality of life.
The V11 is a really comfortable ride on and off-road. Other wheels either hurt my back or me legs.
@@mynameisMelt Awesome.. Ya I was surprised nicely by it because of seizures they took my DL boo lol . in 2019 needed a walker to get around even now if it is far or uphill I need it but the EUC as long as I can keep my mind clear and focus I can rip around effortlessly Feel like a person again.
Thanks. I was quite relieved that the wobbles were finally under control. Glad to see that you are able to maneuver an EUC effectively despite CRPS. I have taken care of many patients with this condition and I am quite impressed at this achievement of yours. Not only is an EUC great physical therapy but it also stirs the mind and soul. Keep it up and enjoy your rides.
Appreciate the nomination Adam U. I actually haven't touched the app but for the review I should. Great video
I watch your videos all the time since you are so prolific in your uploads. You are a good communicator, quite diplomatic in dealing with trolls, and I can see that you really enjoy helping out fellow EUCers. Keep up the great work, Jediah!
Great job in recovery from the Wobble! Thanks
Thanks. That was certainly a scary moment for me in addition to the fact that there were also cars nearby. I knew I had to stay calm and not bail out which would have really taken me out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Enjoy your rides!
Nice review Doc! Out of all the expensive wheels currently out there, I agree that this is the one that justifies the price. Yes, the others may have bigger batteries which drive up the price, but the R&D, tech, build, and finish of the V13 make it well worth the price of admission in my opinion.
Hi Brother Ted. This wheel really is so well made. The selling point for me was all those safety features that can lower risk of cutout as well as a thermal runaway. I know it’s not a perfect wheel but I think this is as close to perfection an EUC can get at this moment. Kudos to InMotion for all their hard work and great commitment to safety.
This is awesome 👍 I bought a v12 secondhand as my first wheel and for a great price from a great fella. I love it and because I had a surgery I only got two months of riding before a 5 week break and I absolutely cant wait very excited to ride again. I figured when it comes time to buy my second euc as a brand new one I would consider the v13 and boy does it look much bigger then the v12. After watching this I certainly know I have more enjoyment to come on my v12 before my skills could take me up a level. I bet having no suspension for awhile from the start will really humble a rider who then goes to a suspension wheel and thats even more fun to look forward to in the future. Great video love it stay safe and Godspeed!
The V12 is an awesome wheel. Powerful, fast and quality parts and features in a wheel.
The suspension does feel great in the V13. I really appreciate it more when I go over bumps or do occasional stairs. It is so heavy however that I needed to change my techniques to make it as nimble as my Nikola. Once I get going, the V13 is a seated rider’s dream. Maneuvering at slow and fast speed are both excellent.
Enjoy your rides!
Awesome 😎 thanks brother!!🙏
You’re welcome and thanks for the kind words!
Nice review. Great work Adam!
Thanks Larry. Looks like you are enjoying your new suspension wheel too. Enjoy that beast of a wheel.
It is magnificent
It just looks like fun! 👍
Is this you Brother Mike? Thanks.
@@AdamU1016 I read somewhere that all men are brothers 😀
Keep up the good stuff. Thanks.
aw man i missed seeing ur vids doc, glad to see you're doing well! I somehow missed 5 of ur previous vids I thought you stopped uploading haha
I am doing well. Work has been quite busy lately though.
I don’t upload videos as much as other UA-camrs since work gets in the way of my passion. Lol. Hope you checked out the other vids you missed.
Have safe rides!
Good save on the wobbles
Yeah that was a terrifying moment for me. I could hear cars whizzing nearby. I tried to focus on my squatting brake technique and was quite relieved that I was able to stop those wobbles. 🥳
Good save! The intro of this video made me nervous. 😂
Thanks! Yeah that wobble was a shock to me when it occurred. I was riding the V13 the way I rode my Nikola. The V13 needs a more exaggerated squatting brake technique when slowing down. I also made my pads more staggered so that my feet pedal placement is more staggered. I was glad I didn’t panic and acted appropriately in killing those wobbles. I intend to also do more seated braking from now on.
Great video DR ADAM now who looks like a kid in a candy store :P hehe enjoy mate i have mine so dialled in now its like an extension to my foot ! thanks for the shoutout as well :) Also the wobbles are from experience in your foot placement well done it will become normal no wobble experience after a few hundred kms also.
Yes we have the same sentiments with the V13 indeed. It certainly makes me feel young.
I made my feet placement more staggered vs that on the Nikola. In addition, I didn’t have to squat as much to brake on the Nikola to prevent wobbles but with the V13 I really squat brake more with the whole upper body leaning farther back. It’s an adjustment I have to ingrain in my head more. I found the seated technique great at preventing wobbles too. I intend to do more seated braking from now on.
Since you have already acclimated to the V13 nuances, did you have to do anything extra once the 56 mph unlock was allowed? I still have difficulty in going more than 37 mph. Recently, there was a setting I think under calibration mode that I clicked with regards to when the wheel is not updating in its new setting. Unfortunately, I haven’t had the time to see if that did the trick since work gets in the way. Lol.
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Thanks Dr Adam. Why did it wobble? I thought it was designed to be stable. But electric dreams also said it was wobbly. I didn’t expect that.
I had not ridden an EUC for about 3 months so I was a little rusty. I applied my braking technique the way I would with my Nikola too. I need to use more upper body and squatting technique when slowing down. This is an adaptation in progress for me. I have since positioned my side pads so that my feet are more staggered to offset the wobbles. I will also make sure to use more seated braking technique too. That is a real wobble killer.
Hello Adam - I like your videos. I am enjoying some early warm weather on my new V11- it took me a while to get used to riding higher and with the 60 pound weight for my 5'2" 145 pound female form and I haven't even attempted to learn seated riding yet. I haven't secured a ramp yet and lifting the thing up and down the three steps to get it in and out is a little tedious but doable and I simply put it in the backseat on my small car which has a low entry point. Sometimes my "bad" knee gets sore and I have to give myself an extra day of rest after a long ride- I reminded myself that at this time last year I was still learning my v5f and was tired after riding it 3 niles- whereas this spring I have already done a 14 mile ride on the V11! so, maybe I am just taking on too much too fast. I still only ride at 15 mph max - how long did it take you to go faster? I am really scared of the idea of increasing my speed because I know myself and I get careless sometimes - maybe if I increase the limit very gradually ....
When I first learned the EUC in 2015, the fastest wheel out there was about 15 mph. My Fastwheel beeped at 12 mph. I sold that after 3 months. My next wheel the KS14C was faster at max speed 20 mph. I had that for 2 years. I then upgraded to KS18L with max speed 28 mph and then the Nikola with max safe speed about 35 mph.
In my situation, it took years before I felt comfortable going really fast because the tech back then was so different.
I learned seated riding because the pedals of the Nikola were uncomfortable. Seated riding also prevents wobbles. It took me about 3 years before I became comfortable with seated riding.
Just take your time. No need to rush being fast. Have safe rides!
Awesome review! What software do you use to edit your videos, po?
Thanks. I use Final Cut Pro for Mac. Very user friendly. I also have subscription to GoPro and it comes with automatic editing software. I just select what I need from their auto edit and clip it into Final Cut Pro.
Where did the Bandan redundancy go? V 13 cut out at Law’s speed and high speed boat
Nice V13 👍
What caused your wobbles ?
I had not ridden an EUC for about 3 months so I was a little rusty. I applied my braking technique the way I would with my Nikola too. I need to use more upper body and squatting technique when slowing down. This is an adaptation in progress for me. I have since positioned my side pads so that my feet are more staggered to offset the wobbles. I will also make sure to use more seated braking technique too. That is a real wobble killer.
Hey Adam, just wondering, how'd you get the wheel? was it from the inmotion creator partnership form a while back or was it given by a store or did you buy it yourself?
I wish I was part of the InMotion creator partnership or had the wheel gratis from a store.
I would have saved $4K. Lol.
I paid with my own money with no special discount. I got the early pre-order price since this is a first batch wheel second shipment from EWheels. I had to wait an extra month since Jason had the motor bolts replaced prior to shipment.
Nice video. I'm tempted by the v13, but I might also skip for a ShermanS instead. Just a bit too big. Just a bit.
But I hope that inmotion could keep the design similar for their others wheels, such as begode does..
(And by the way, the A2 only has a 1000w motor, same as a V8 and no trolley.. better get a proven v8f instead)
Either wheel is great. Both are relatively new suspension wheels and unproven yet by time. Choosing between the two, I decided to go for the V13 due to their history of great QC and priority of safety over performance. With the V13 specs, it has both performance and tons of safety features. That made me decide for the V13. The Sherman S is my second choice suspension wheel and I would have had no regrets had I chosen that either.
I have ridden the V8f and it certainly is a nimble wheel and has proven itself through the years. However, I always like newer models and once it has proven itself in about 6 months to a year, I will probably get that too.
Thanks for the video. It’s a cool wheel, though I look forward to its advantages filtering down to smaller wheels. My fast wheel is an EXN that I got a good deal on, and I love it, but even it gets sidelined in favor of my V8S if I have to do anything stair or trolley heavy. Even at 70 pounds the EXN sometimes gets annoying to deal with. The V13 looks cool, but I don’t think it’s for me. I’d love the redundancy, safety features, suspension, and overall quality in a 60-70 pound wheel. I rarely go much more than 35, which is about as fast as I feel the police are cool with. I live about a mile from a State Police station, and I see police pretty much every day I ride.
Yeah the V13 does need some body mechanic adaptation when riding. My mind and body have been geared to riding my Nikola a certain way. I still need to ingrain my new riding style with the V13 hence I got wobbles on the second day of riding.
Initially I was missing my trusty Nikola since it really is such a responsive, easily maneuverable wheel. However, looking back in switching from a KS18 to a Nikola I also had some initial reservations with my Nik. After 2 years with the Nik, it is the best wheel ever for me. I live near the police station too and when I am nearby I ride as slow and careful as I can. Although I am already a responsible rider, I embellish it more when near police.
I am sure I will feel the same way once I have adapted to the V13 quirks of riding.
I am sure you will love the EXN just as much once you have acclimated to it too. I have heard great reviews from fellow riders on that wheel.
@@AdamU1016 I already love riding the EXN, I mostly mean the larger form factor makes me use the V8S when I’m running errands or going on the train, that sort of thing since it’s half the weight and the trolley experience is far better. It’s nice to have options.
I see. I am already thinking of selling my MTen3 since that Begode A2 looks really tempting. It’s a bigger version in terms of looks to the MTen4. I love options too and I will need something definitely more packable and maneuverable.
Do you ride into NYC or even Jersey City with your wheels?
I do ride NYC but not as often as I would like since I live in central Jersey. I tend to ride the streets of my town and other surrounding areas near my workplace. We have really nice trail rides here.
V13 cut out low speed and high speed at 83 km where did dual sensor? Where did four times more MOSFET go? Were did six-time capacitor go?
There is no perfect EUC. I don’t know about this cutout at low speed issue. The cutout at high speed occurred because the guy overleaned when he was getting close to max speed. These issues can be fixed with a firmware update. The 42 mosfets and 18 capacitors will help keep the internal temperature low. The cutout wasn’t due to high internal temps.
I'm nervous for you with that gown getting caught in the wheel..
Yes I was wary of that too. It’s like a scene from The Incredibles where a cape can get you in trouble. Lol. I used that clip so eventually I can show the end of the clip with my green gown in slow motion as if the wheel gave me Superman powers. 😊
We now have short gowns so that won’t be a concern anymore.
Hi Adam! What is the best way to contact you?
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@Adam U hey thanks alot! Would love to know any other suggestions or suspension advice for the v13. I'm getting mine in a few days and it's been a challenge finding information on how to properly do it!
@@allanlambert8467 You’re welcome. When you get the wheel there is a chart on the side that will tell you how much pressure to put in. There will also be a chart on top of the v13 that will tell you how to dampen the screw holes. I don’t even touch the dampening area since Marty easily broke his dampening rod. I am fine with the default dampening level.
Hi doc adam! I want to buy my first euc I’m choosing between 16x or v12ht as my first euc. V12 is on sale just $200 more than ks16x. Is v12 a good beginner wheel? Thanks! 😊
Both the 16X and V12 are great choices. You can’t go wrong with either. The 16X is a well proven wheel and has no issues. Max speed is about 28 mph GPS speed.
The V12 max speed is about 35 mph, has a display so you won’t really need an phone app to know your speed. It is more recent and has been around for over a year. The V12 has more features and for only an extra $200 that would be a better deal. Which seller are you buying from? I would recommend a dependable one and not AliExpress. Customer support is just as important.
@@lemorcardona5573 I am not familiar with that company but as long as they have a great reputation and you have heard good reviews form other EUCers then you should be alright.
If you need lessons check out my video EUC Learning in One Hour. I gave some tips while my friend was learning the wheel via DIY brushes. Even if you don’t use brushes or use other means to learn like a shopping cart or holding on to the sides of rails, my advice mentioned in the video should help out. Make sure you pad your EUC as well as you gearing up also.
Good luck and have safe rides!
Just a note that when I reached 50 km I had to restart the device to unlock the top speed. I didn't have to reinstall the app thankfully.
So even if the app display finally shows max speed at 90 kph (56 mph) after the speed unlock when I have travelled the minimum 30 km, I really can’t unlock the top speed until I have gone past 50 km travelled then? I have restarted the wheel multiple times since the app and V13 display have shown max speed of 90 kph and still I can’t go past 37 mph. All the extreme leaning and it’s still no more than 37 mph despite the app saying max speed 56 mph.
I have travelled so far 40 km. Yeah I don’t ride that much since work gets in the way. Lol. I really need to travel another 10 km then to really unlock the wheel. I will restart the v13 afterwards. Thanks for the tip!
@@AdamU1016 hey Adam so that is another weird thing about the app. You actually have to increase pedal hardness to get rid of the 37 mph “dynamic speed limit.” I had that issue yesterday and my friend who works at ewheels helped me with this. Try increasing the pedal hardness and then go to “detailed data” over settings and see if the dynamic speed limit changes. I set my pedal hardness to like 55 percent and that increased the limit to like 55 mph.
@@againsthegrainx7556 In terms of settings I have set my pedal hardness to 100%. Since the app delete and updating of the app, my max speed on both the app and V13 display has been 56 mph. That is not the issue with me.
My issue is not being able to go past 37 mph despite my app saying max speed unlocked already. It still seems very hesitant to go past 37 mph. I do seated riding and I am so slid forward that I can’t even see the display anymore in addition to leaning forward. Despite all these efforts, I still can’t go more than 37 mph even though both the app and V13 display say max speed 56 mph.
@@AdamU1016 I had the exact same issue at 37 mph which is why I thought I could help haha. It surprised me that changing pedal hardness didn’t affect it for you for me that instantly solved the problem. If you go to detailed data do you see on like the third bars down something that says “dynamic speed limit?” If fiddling with pedal hardness doesn’t help you in not sure what else I know that could help. But I hope it gets resolved cause riding the v13 capped at 37 mph seems unfortunate!
@@againsthegrainx7556 There’s a section under vehicle calibration that can be activated when the new settings don’t kick in. I activated it so I hope that will do the trick. My other problem is finding the time to play with my wheel. I hope to be able to get some riding time this weekend to see if I can finally ride in the 40 plus mph range.
EUCs should be classified as class 3 ebike.... No one should be riding past 40 km/h unless off road on private property....
That wheel is not maneuverable whatsoever.. if you're not doing 50 plus it's no fun
I agree but just like with any new wheel whatever size there is always an adaptation stage. I have ridden many size wheels from 10”, 12”, 14”, 16” and 18”. I had to adapt my technique with each. I will need more riding time to get to really know my V13.
If Dawn Champion who is 5’4” “fell in love with the wheel” then I know I can too. I have to use more upper leg muscles and core as well as more arm swinging to really effect a maneuverable feel to the wheel. It will take more riding time but I am confident that I will eventually be one with the V13.
I already have an MTen3 and I like its portability and nimbleness. I have been recently eyeing that Begode A2. It looks like a nice intermediate wheel.
@@AdamU1016 good luck 👍