Something you like to play with his gear ratio? Every test bike since 1979 you taking the stock rear sprocket off and added one with the bigger tooth. Every bike. If the bike came with the 72 tooth rear sprocket you will put a 73 tooth rear sprocket on
Would have Loved to have had a Bike like this when I was in my teens and early 20's.Back in the late 70s and early 80's Suzuki RM's ruled the tracks here in North Carolina and the South for that matter.I Loved mine back in those days.
Born in the later half of the 80s but when i was 11 i got a x racers 86-88 suzuki rm 80 that was fully built with 90s tech it was real fast for the time outran 125s no prob but your right even up until the late 90s suzukis in the southen states were popular along with cr hondas
@@ej2civicb736 You're right,I know there were some really fast 12 and 13 year olds racing in The Senior Mini Class back in late 70s, 80s and up into present day.I just wish they would have been making RM,CR,YZ and KX 80s when I was 10 or 12 years old.All we had back in the early 70s were XRs or SL 70s + 75s.They were Fun to ride and Great bikes to learn how to ride on.As long as Everybody else is on the same type bike,racing is racing.
FOR EVRYONE THAT PUTS A ZIPTIE ON WP FORKS TO SE HOW MUCH TRAVEL YOUR USING. On my 2021 tc 125 their is a little red ring that might look like a dust gaurd at the bottom of you fork legs but it is not a dust guard. It dosed the same thing as a zip tie but some people think it’s a dust cover for a protector for bottom outs. It is a little difficult to get up but it is made for measuring how much travel You are using. You welcome
I have a 2012 150xc that I put a fmf pipe and silencer on and it made a world of difference. It came on pipe earlier and pulled longer. I got a fmf for my 2019 150sx and was very disappointed with the power "gain" the only difference I felt was it was a little snappier than stock. It didn't come on pipe any sooner or pull any longer. I'd spend the 350 bucks elsewhere if I could go back and do it again
This video made me go out and buy one i had it for about 11 days now and I love it cleanest machine I’ve ever ridden a absolute beast also we’ll manageable compared to my 2016 yz450 🤣
@@nateculler4062 yes I still have it and its my favorite bike I have ever owned currently at 60 hours on her and and a few minor upgrades. they stop making the 150sx in 2022 so if you are still able to get one i highly recommend!
I got 125 2022 & 150kit mine came with ecu didn't hear that mentioned and bought full fmf fatory fatty and 2.1 power core and v-force 4r .🙂 vet rider..put parts on and gearing 13\49 on 150 kit is the good! Stock gearing 125 is fine (imo)Pipe and reeds definitely chuncks it up (breathes better) more responsive and deals with load better(sandy stuff). the parts make a difference. Actually make its easier to ride havnt played with valve yet .at my age and ability didnt think it needed it..power feels spread nicely as is.(IMO) best bike ive ever bought..oh and did they metion how dam light it is!! Rather than and wrestling match with a 450..
I'm trying to get off my 450 and onto a 125/150. I thought at 6'0" 180lb that the 450 is what I needed but learned the hard way that it's just too much power. I do 2-3 hard laps and my armpump is unbearable. Can't wait to get back on the smokers, so much more fun and I can ride them 4 times as long before I get tired.
Mate do it...you will never regret it..fair enough if u go trail riding with long straights..but riding tracks..defo the go..and i weigh 81kgs and the bike has no dramas with me .but geared with the track your at beautiful..and there not slow if u keep momentum..i pass heeps of 450s..i also get passed by kids too..its the rider but definitely less likely to take u for a ride rather than u riding it!!..i enjoy my riding so much nowadays i cop flake from my mates for being on the 125 ..but im faster than all of them and there tune changes after the 1st lap..and im 43 and there 21-25..and when one of there new mates come with us..he will generally give me a hard time about age and the 125..but they cant shut them up quick enough during convos b4 riding..the perception is the more powerful the bike the better u are ?? Until u get on the track!! Don't worry about what people say u will have more fun,seat time,bigger smile!!
@@paultselembis4255 got me a '19 150 sx. Still trying to get the right rear spring because the 42 was ironically too stiff, could only get the sag to 90mm. Love the bike though, it's so much more fun!
When you say the 125 is more torque out the corner and later say that an aftermarket pipe helps a lot. It sounds like KTM just used the 125 pipe and it isn’t really matched for the extra 50cc. Even though it’s only 25cc more, I would think it had torque lower in the rpm at least more at the same rpm. So yeah, it sounds like this pipe is not tuned for the extra cc.
I would love to see an "all full sized motocross bikes" shootout, would probably be too hard to organize though, but i think if ot could be done, this bike would win
shame about pipe availability atm. swapping pipes on those 90s 2-strokes was a quick and easy way for amateurs to change the power band without shelling $$$ for more intensive alterations.
Man for about a decade I've been wondering this. They always say the 150 is better for vets because it has more bottom end but then they say the 125 is easier to ride.
As a slower vet rider with a 150 and ridden the 125, the power difference feels even bigger than the 3hp suggests. I find the 150 easier because the extra torque means I don't have to abuse the clutch as much to keep the revs up and because I am not as fast, I am more prone to being a gear too high and lugging the bike more than average.
It also doesn't help that they used the 125 gearing on the 150 when obviously you'd want to change that right off the bat and the bike would ride way different then the initial reviews when compared back to back
I mention it at 3:32, stock KTM 150SX has 40.7 horsepower. It also has 18.83 torque stock as well. Pro Circuit built a mod 150SX for us last year that produced 43 horses and 19.77 torque. It cost $349.95 without counting installation and the Pro Circuit pipe/silencer we used. You can read the article about the Pro Circuit mods here with all the prices here: motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-team-tested-pro-circuit-tuned-ktm-150sx-big-bore-kit/
@@joshmosiman1955 Wow, i wouldn't have guessed 40hp for the stock 150SX. That's mean power. Thanks for the link. These videos are the shit btw! Keep em comin! 👍😁
Not necessary, I race open class between almost all 450’s and leat I bring is a 3rd, 1st guy is always on a 150sx, Usable power is the key, Did you see Emig in Loretta? He proved exactly what im talking about, Did you see N, Bradshaw videos? Beating everybody in all clases on a 125.
125 and a 250t mopped up at Lorettas in 250C. Its 85% rider. On top of Emig running up front against 450 and Hughes getting 3rd against brand new 450s on a stock 35 year old 2 stroke. Not sure why anyone on earth would buy a 4 stroke unless they're racing at the pro level.
@@SOLDOZER Those guys have worn out more bikes than we will ever own.. it's like comparing an assassin with a knife to a normal guy with a gun.. which guy wins in a fight? The guy with more experience 9 times out of ten no matter the weapons. Shows how good the pros really are.. beating up on mere mortals with 20 less hp.
so I’m looking at buying one, but I’m 6 foot 2 and 100kg in weight. I’ve owned plenty of 125s and 250fs my last bike was a 250 2 stroke and although I ride pretty good I have a lot more fun on slower bikes for some reason.. will this bike be alright for me to ride most weekends being my height and weight?
@@motominded5275 yeah I’m aware of that, I’m just worried if I get a 150 that I’d be having to do top end rebuilds more then normal because of my weight and the stress under load for the motor
I find a well setup 250 2t is the way to go. My YZ is setup for all bottom and mid and it's a blast to ride now, don't have to fight for power and makes the riding experience overall a lot easier.
Late reply, but Im 5'10" and weigh 195lbs. My 125XC has more than enough power to haul me around, extremely fun. I DID have to buy a stiffer rear spring, the stock was just too soft for me to set sag. Running 160psi in the fork, and its PERFECT. I intentionally didnt get a 250sx because I wanted something I could ride the balls out of.
Lmao clearly the 150 2 stroke is better. 150 4 strokes are not even CLOSE to as good performing as the 150 2 stroke, also the 150 4 stroke is as big as a 85
@@cjaggy6195 But the 250 4 strokes come stock with about 40hp. How much hp can you get out of a 150 2-stroke? I've heard of 125's getting over 40hp. Not sure how reliable it is, though.
@@cjaggy6195 A good rider can beat 450's on one of these. Just look at Emig last week beating other great 450 riders on basically the same bike a TC150
Someone Plleeeeeaaaaaaseeeeeeeee tell me why Kaw, Suz and Honda stopped production of their 2 stroke 125 and 250's?????????????????????????????????????? !!! ????????????????????????
@Johnny Rebellion OMG!!! you nare so right!. I bought a brand new KDX-175 in 1981 (yep), and it was my favorite bike ever. ALL the magazines back then loooooved it!
I prefer the idea of a 150 over a 125cc, all bikes should go up by 50cc each except for 200cc don't need those....50, 100, 150, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, 500
It weighs 192 lbs? The 1989 Honda CR125 only weighed 189 lbs. So you are telling me that in more than 30 years they haven't been able to get the weight down?..in fact now they weigh more now!! ...and probably the 1989 Honda is a better bike...
Your dreamin mate... These new bikes are beefed up to handle way better than an old 88 CR125. I love the old CR's and I even have one but they have skinny 43mm conventional forks plus a thin frame, smaller radiators and the list goes on. It's way better to race one of these than an 88 model. Also the old CR125 has a dry weight of 194lbs.. 2lbs heavier
Not only is it lighter, the older bike, but To make matters worse an old 1989 CR 125 already made 37HP bone stock. And just by bolting on a 1989 CR250 carburator it made over 40HP. With some porting and pipe, ...above 45HP, there is no 125 today that comes close. A stock 2021 KTM 125 makes 37HP also.. So where is the advancement? The point being, not to race an older bike, (unless it is well restored), but to expose, the scam they are running, as they have made ZERO advancement in the last 30 years. The only difference is the suspension.... but by the 1990's suspension has not changed at all...despite what the "marketers" sell. In fact a 1989 Cagiva wmx125, already had the "so-called" 'upside-down" forks. Too bad Cagiva isn't making MX bikes anymore.
@@deckard5pegasus673 dude... I rode a 92, 96, 01 and 04 CR 125's all new or fresh and in good condition, the 90's bikes were good but even they were proper flat compared to KTM's 125s let alone their 150's, even from a decade ago. I'm talking about on this planet though, I have no experience in the imaginary world you're talking about, maybe jetting plays a huge part there 😂
Something you like to play with his gear ratio? Every test bike since 1979 you taking the stock rear sprocket off and added one with the bigger tooth. Every bike. If the bike came with the 72 tooth rear sprocket you will put a 73 tooth rear sprocket on
Bang on
Hahah thats so true man
73 is for trail riding
@@ttt69420 and b and vet racers
Would have Loved to have had a Bike like this when I was in my teens and early 20's.Back in the late 70s and early 80's Suzuki RM's ruled the tracks here in North Carolina and the South for that matter.I Loved mine back in those days.
Did you ever race the 100cc Class?
Born in the later half of the 80s but when i was 11 i got a x racers 86-88 suzuki rm 80 that was fully built with 90s tech it was real fast for the time outran 125s no prob but your right even up until the late 90s suzukis in the southen states were popular along with cr hondas
@@ej2civicb736 You're right,I know there were some really fast 12 and 13 year olds racing in The Senior Mini Class back in late 70s, 80s and up into present day.I just wish they would have been making RM,CR,YZ and KX 80s when I was 10 or 12 years old.All we had back in the early 70s were XRs or SL 70s + 75s.They were Fun to ride and Great bikes to learn how to ride on.As long as Everybody else is on the same type bike,racing is racing.
My buddy ran a 250RM thing was bigger than him at 13 I had a cr125
Early 80s
Wow 40 hp is just insane! Lol I’d love to ride one of these!
FOR EVRYONE THAT PUTS A ZIPTIE ON WP FORKS TO SE HOW MUCH TRAVEL YOUR USING.
On my 2021 tc 125 their is a little red ring that might look like a dust gaurd at the bottom of you fork legs but it is not a dust guard. It dosed the same thing as a zip tie but some people think it’s a dust cover for a protector for bottom outs. It is a little difficult to get up but it is made for measuring how much travel
You are using.
You welcome
What are we welcome for
#FakeNews hes just trolling y'all
@@UltraSS-nj8kdhe’s not mine does the same thing
@@dominicclayton9748 🫥
I have a 2012 150xc that I put a fmf pipe and silencer on and it made a world of difference. It came on pipe earlier and pulled longer. I got a fmf for my 2019 150sx and was very disappointed with the power "gain" the only difference I felt was it was a little snappier than stock. It didn't come on pipe any sooner or pull any longer. I'd spend the 350 bucks elsewhere if I could go back and do it again
Wich one better 150sx or 150xc power wise
@@youredogwater2412SX is more powerful
This video made me go out and buy one i had it for about 11 days now and I love it cleanest machine I’ve ever ridden a absolute beast also we’ll manageable compared to my 2016 yz450 🤣
Nice one Christopher, can't work out to get the 125 or 150?
It’s been a year is it still good if you still have it I’ve been looking into getting one
@@nateculler4062 yes I still have it and its my favorite bike I have ever owned currently at 60 hours on her and and a few minor upgrades. they stop making the 150sx in 2022 so if you are still able to get one i highly recommend!
Comes in with the HUGE Ronnie Mac style air wheelie!!!
Great video with the break down and info. Found it quite helpful and learned new things , like the subtle difference between the 125 and 150 👍
Let 150s in the lites class and let the chips fall where they may
Haha they would kill em
I got 125 2022 & 150kit mine came with ecu didn't hear that mentioned and bought full fmf fatory fatty and 2.1 power core and v-force 4r .🙂 vet rider..put parts on and gearing 13\49 on 150 kit is the good! Stock gearing 125 is fine (imo)Pipe and reeds definitely chuncks it up (breathes better) more responsive and deals with load better(sandy stuff). the parts make a difference. Actually make its easier to ride havnt played with valve yet .at my age and ability didnt think it needed it..power feels spread nicely as is.(IMO) best bike ive ever bought..oh and did they metion how dam light it is!! Rather than and wrestling match with a 450..
I'm trying to get off my 450 and onto a 125/150. I thought at 6'0" 180lb that the 450 is what I needed but learned the hard way that it's just too much power. I do 2-3 hard laps and my armpump is unbearable. Can't wait to get back on the smokers, so much more fun and I can ride them 4 times as long before I get tired.
Mate do it...you will never regret it..fair enough if u go trail riding with long straights..but riding tracks..defo the go..and i weigh 81kgs and the bike has no dramas with me .but geared with the track your at beautiful..and there not slow if u keep momentum..i pass heeps of 450s..i also get passed by kids too..its the rider but definitely less likely to take u for a ride rather than u riding it!!..i enjoy my riding so much nowadays i cop flake from my mates for being on the 125 ..but im faster than all of them and there tune changes after the 1st lap..and im 43 and there 21-25..and when one of there new mates come with us..he will generally give me a hard time about age and the 125..but they cant shut them up quick enough during convos b4 riding..the perception is the more powerful the bike the better u are ?? Until u get on the track!! Don't worry about what people say u will have more fun,seat time,bigger smile!!
@@paultselembis4255 got me a '19 150 sx. Still trying to get the right rear spring because the 42 was ironically too stiff, could only get the sag to 90mm. Love the bike though, it's so much more fun!
Hi im about to get one what the different between? 125 or 150 please thank u
These ktms have mad power
When you say the 125 is more torque out the corner and later say that an aftermarket pipe helps a lot. It sounds like KTM just used the 125 pipe and it isn’t really matched for the extra 50cc. Even though it’s only 25cc more, I would think it had torque lower in the rpm at least more at the same rpm. So yeah, it sounds like this pipe is not tuned for the extra cc.
love the orange frames
I would love to see an "all full sized motocross bikes" shootout, would probably be too hard to organize though, but i think if ot could be done, this bike would win
I would love to see that but the video would be 5hours long
You know on the intro y’all showed it as a KTM 125?
Actually I’m going to buy one this week at a local dealer, can’t wait to ride it
shame about pipe availability atm. swapping pipes on those 90s 2-strokes was a quick and easy way for amateurs to change the power band without shelling $$$ for more intensive alterations.
Motocross has reached a level of "most manufacturers are done making changes". This is the end of motocross
Intro says it's a 125SX
Not anymore
@@codykorzenowski6888 if you say so. 38 seconds in...
@@tkrey23 ?
Love the blue seat and graphics ! 💯👍
Is the 2022 ktm 250sx up next video
Probably not the next video, but coming soon!
So The 125 is a little easier to ride?
Better for vets and novices?
Yes!
@@joshmosiman1955 good to know, thanks 😊
Man for about a decade I've been wondering this. They always say the 150 is better for vets because it has more bottom end but then they say the 125 is easier to ride.
@@Dylans503 I've heard it said both ways as well
As a slower vet rider with a 150 and ridden the 125, the power difference feels even bigger than the 3hp suggests. I find the 150 easier because the extra torque means I don't have to abuse the clutch as much to keep the revs up and because I am not as fast, I am more prone to being a gear too high and lugging the bike more than average.
It also doesn't help that they used the 125 gearing on the 150 when obviously you'd want to change that right off the bat and the bike would ride way different then the initial reviews when compared back to back
could a bike like this be registered for road-use so i can use it from/to work/gasstation and the track?
Maybe in SD
Power/Torque output stock?
Also what would be the additional cost to squeeze some extra hp out of this bike?
I mention it at 3:32, stock KTM 150SX has 40.7 horsepower. It also has 18.83 torque stock as well. Pro Circuit built a mod 150SX for us last year that produced 43 horses and 19.77 torque. It cost $349.95 without counting installation and the Pro Circuit pipe/silencer we used. You can read the article about the Pro Circuit mods here with all the prices here: motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-team-tested-pro-circuit-tuned-ktm-150sx-big-bore-kit/
@@joshmosiman1955 Wow, i wouldn't have guessed 40hp for the stock 150SX. That's mean power. Thanks for the link.
These videos are the shit btw! Keep em comin! 👍😁
@@Corteum its not a lot you can port/polish, jetting kit, head mod, bore kits so on
Top tier fuel for this a a good pipe jetting set up is absolutely insane more then most people need
Wow 🤩
The white power xact forks look nice
Stock is 13/48, so how does 14/49 or 14/50 beef up the bottom end? Do you then ride it 1 gear lower?
I'd imagine you'd ride a gear lower..either that or the guy talking is mistaken
Yeah he should go down in the front and up in the rear for more bottom end. I think he made an error. I caught that too.
leaving aside the power, what are the differences with the 250 sx 2t?
Leaving power aside, there arent much structural differences.. about the same seat height… only difference is weight really
Power is basically the only difference
Thank you
Nice sound!!!
Need to have a 200cc for the the 250 class and 325cc for the 450 class then they would be competitive with the 4 strokes.
"325cc" xDDD
ktm has 2 different 125 two strokes, what is the better bike? looking to get back into riding after 8 years
Sx is for motocross and the xc is a woods bike
I love this bike 😎
Make a 200sx and race it against the 250f’s
Not necessary, I race open class between almost all 450’s and leat I bring is a 3rd, 1st guy is always on a 150sx, Usable power is the key, Did you see Emig in Loretta? He proved exactly what im talking about, Did you see N, Bradshaw videos? Beating everybody in all clases on a 125.
125 and a 250t mopped up at Lorettas in 250C. Its 85% rider. On top of Emig running up front against 450 and Hughes getting 3rd against brand new 450s on a stock 35 year old 2 stroke. Not sure why anyone on earth would buy a 4 stroke unless they're racing at the pro level.
@@SOLDOZER 100% Agree with you man ❤️💪🏻
@@SOLDOZER Those guys have worn out more bikes than we will ever own.. it's like comparing an assassin with a knife to a normal guy with a gun.. which guy wins in a fight? The guy with more experience 9 times out of ten no matter the weapons. Shows how good the pros really are.. beating up on mere mortals with 20 less hp.
It doesnt sound like it's lacking over rev in this video.
so I’m looking at buying one, but I’m 6 foot 2 and 100kg in weight. I’ve owned plenty of 125s and 250fs my last bike was a 250 2 stroke and although I ride pretty good I have a lot more fun on slower bikes for some reason.. will this bike be alright for me to ride most weekends being my height and weight?
Im in the same boat!
the 125s are same size as bigger bikes, several pros over 6 feet. Weight is bigger issue but it has plenty of power to pull you around...
@@motominded5275 yeah I’m aware of that, I’m just worried if I get a 150 that I’d be having to do top end rebuilds more then normal because of my weight and the stress under load for the motor
I find a well setup 250 2t is the way to go. My YZ is setup for all bottom and mid and it's a blast to ride now, don't have to fight for power and makes the riding experience overall a lot easier.
Late reply, but Im 5'10" and weigh 195lbs. My 125XC has more than enough power to haul me around, extremely fun. I DID have to buy a stiffer rear spring, the stock was just too soft for me to set sag. Running 160psi in the fork, and its PERFECT. I intentionally didnt get a 250sx because I wanted something I could ride the balls out of.
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Would a zip tie damage the fork seal if it bottomed out too hard?
I think if you use of of the thin ones its got enough room not to
love Ktm great engine nice frame , but crap suspension
Do a 250sx test
Must get me that pressure gauge. The last time my 350 front wheel keep slipping under me at every turn. Not enjoyable at all. Now I know.
does that mean you need more or less pressure?
@@skillibo1 huhh rebound to be quicker, comp softer?
Thank god
My dad has a 20 husky 150 and I think it’s ridiculously slow like it has zero bottom
What's the top speed of this bike?
Most Mx bikes are geared for 65-75 mph
I never like the way the 150 sounded like it doesn't sound as crispy
@@RaymondGinn1978 why else would you buy a 2 stroke
@@RaymondGinn1978 you forgot sound
@@RaymondGinn1978 faster?
Why make a 125 and a 150
Dirtbiking is optimized.
What performances better... a 150 2-stroke or a 150 4-stroke? What would you prefer?
Lmao clearly the 150 2 stroke is better. 150 4 strokes are not even CLOSE to as good performing as the 150 2 stroke, also the 150 4 stroke is as big as a 85
@@aronlootus haha so if that's true, then imagine a 450 2-stroke with this modern frame... it'll probably eat 450 4-strokes alive!
a good rider on a 150sx could beat a 250 4 stroke
@@cjaggy6195 But the 250 4 strokes come stock with about 40hp. How much hp can you get out of a 150 2-stroke? I've heard of 125's getting over 40hp. Not sure how reliable it is, though.
@@cjaggy6195 A good rider can beat 450's on one of these. Just look at Emig last week beating other great 450 riders on basically the same bike a TC150
no husky 150 anymore?
No, but the $800 KTM kit fits it. Unfortunately, at least where I am, a TC150 does not exist on the showroom floor.
Did I hear him correctly…? Set up at 150mm is their “go-to”? Sag? Magazine says 106…so does the manual. What gives??
Looks good!
The last few years have been butt ugly.
150cc
Who’s that South African rider with the leat South Africa googles
is this thing faster than a CRF-150R ?
Would destroy it.
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Someone Plleeeeeaaaaaaseeeeeeeee tell me why Kaw, Suz and Honda stopped production of their 2 stroke 125 and 250's?????????????????????????????????????? !!! ????????????????????????
@Johnny Rebellion OMG!!! you nare so right!. I bought a brand new KDX-175 in 1981 (yep), and it was my favorite bike ever. ALL the magazines back then loooooved it!
I prefer the idea of a 150 over a 125cc, all bikes should go up by 50cc each except for 200cc don't need those....50, 100, 150, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, 500
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keep that junk for 8 grand
Salty
It weighs 192 lbs? The 1989 Honda CR125 only weighed 189 lbs. So you are telling me that in more than 30 years they haven't been able to get the weight down?..in fact now they weigh more now!! ...and probably the 1989 Honda is a better bike...
Your dreamin mate... These new bikes are beefed up to handle way better than an old 88 CR125. I love the old CR's and I even have one but they have skinny 43mm conventional forks plus a thin frame, smaller radiators and the list goes on.
It's way better to race one of these than an 88 model. Also the old CR125 has a dry weight of 194lbs.. 2lbs heavier
Idiot bs
@@scottyd2262 nope it weighs 189lbs, 3 lbs lighter
Not only is it lighter, the older bike, but To make matters worse an old 1989 CR 125 already made 37HP bone stock.
And just by bolting on a 1989 CR250 carburator it made over 40HP.
With some porting and pipe, ...above 45HP, there is no 125 today that comes close. A stock 2021 KTM 125 makes 37HP also.. So where is the advancement?
The point being, not to race an older bike, (unless it is well restored), but to expose, the scam they are running, as they have made ZERO advancement in the last 30 years.
The only difference is the suspension.... but by the 1990's suspension has not changed at all...despite what the "marketers" sell.
In fact a 1989 Cagiva wmx125, already had the "so-called" 'upside-down" forks. Too bad Cagiva isn't making MX bikes anymore.
@@deckard5pegasus673 dude... I rode a 92, 96, 01 and 04 CR 125's all new or fresh and in good condition, the 90's bikes were good but even they were proper flat compared to KTM's 125s let alone their 150's, even from a decade ago. I'm talking about on this planet though, I have no experience in the imaginary world you're talking about, maybe jetting plays a huge part there 😂