There were three questions that many of us have: was Stephan selling the photos, was Maddie pregnant, and why isn’t Jennifer Soto charged with anything!?!
He could have instead remained a non-offending loser, privaely enjoying his games & toys . . . & accomodating "personal needs" with a "Flesh Lite." 😢😭😭😭
@@LoriKasprzak-kc7xc Yes! A video of him driving around with her dead in the car and also stopping at a hotel to move her body to the trunk? Sometimes circumstantial just leads to one answer. Guilty as hell!
Jenn called her dead daughter a “body”. She also said sexual abuse was not “evil”. That is no mother! She was definitely involved and we all want her to pay the price.
She also said AFTER she was shown explicit photos of what Stephan did to her daughter that she still thought he was "a good guy" ... referring to her not wanting to believe he had also killed her.
Honey the entire world feels that way, but there has to be somebody to testify against a defendant, if you're going to try somebody with a crime there has to be some type of witness to that crime to prove that this guy committed a crime.
@@michelej8571He had hundreds of images of him SA'ing Maddie on his phone, starting when she was age 8. That's hard evidence. Plus is Jenn a good witness when her first reaction after seeing just 1 image the Detective showed her, was, "have you got any other evidence?" Grim.
@@sarahholland2600very nasty behavior from her. I know she said it more than twice can you prove that to me and the cops like well look closer. And then she wanted to see it one more time just before the interview was over just to make sure. And I'm pretty sure it was Maddie's face etc. Sick broad.
" The sex stuff was not evil, but murder is"--SHE KNEW "The Woody Allen situation"--SHE KNEW The text that she replied "It's too risky" or " I'm not risking it" to Stephan---SHE KNEW Where was she getting the money for Botox?--SHE KNEW "I gave her a double dose of medication"--SHE KNEW
Yes she did and is even more guilty then SS since she gave birth to this innocent girl then used her to make $$ and keep a perv around. I do not claim her as a woman or a mother, she is neither!
Yea I'm starting to really believe this and it's SO hard. I'm a mother and would NEVER sell my children! NEVER!!! The reason the lube and the tripod and all that was out in the open is because she knew. It's probably one of the reasons they drugged her. Jenn probably justified it like "she's not awake, she won't remember " OH. MY. GOD!!! SHE DID KNOW!!! she was allowing it! She liked the money. Eww she's gross
As heinous as it is to say 🤢I think she knew full well about the abuse and she didn’t think it was that bad. Incredible, just unbelievable to think but I believe that’s what happened. Especially if there was money being made from images and videos. That’s a motive. I am so sad for Maddy she had no chance with this woman as her mum.
SHE WOULD DO JUST FINE ON 2 OR 3 HOURS SLEEP!!! TRUTH IS KNOWN THAT"S HOW LONG SHE SLEEPS LATE AT NIGHT. THEN WAS BACK THEN COMING BACK HOME AND SLEEPING UNTIL SHE LEFT FOR MADDIE AT SCHOOL. SO JENNIFER, YOU MAY SLEEP AS LONG AS YOU LIKE NOW. MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP!!!! I PRAY THE DEVIL READS THIS!!! BOTH DEVILS>>>
😮 Yes... The entire house including the roommates constantly bringing up their mental health issues.. I'm not victim blaming whatsoever but it seems way too highlighted and I'm over hearing about ALL of them too
I would too. I know I couldn't bare loosing my child. Dear God this is aweful what this child was being made to do. I heard him talking to her teasing her with candy when she was about 6 or 7. And LE is saying about 4 years minimum. It was 6 or 7 years. I've listen to JS comments talking to the police. I have written it down every time she tells a different story. I am convinced she has a burner phone and is talking to SS about everyday. Phone calls from jail will be putting the calls out soon. She has something that disquises her voice. The number has been traced about 2 hours from her townhouse. They set this up before his arrest. Mark my word, you know how she has protected him even after she saw many pictures of CSAM!!! And even said thats not evil. It's been said they shopped all the time, and she had a Botox appt. But also gave plasma twice a week and that pays decent money and most centers give a big bonus after 3 to 5 weeks straight!!! But she found a plasma center she could lie to and say she wasn't on psych drugs or benzos like valium, xanax etc....she had to lie on her app because if your on any of those meds they won't take you. Bham, Al centers do a drug screen. I know this because people who work and need xtra money do it and I've checked into it when I was younger and my health was good. In my situation my hematocrit was too low. lol just being honest. I was single with 3 children and 2 jobs still wasn't enough.
I can't believe how unmoved Jenn is about her daughter, I'd be a freaking mess!!!! But I'd never send my child to sleep with any man either. And losing a child is the worse that can happen to any family! I lost a son in 2016 and I still have days is all I do is cry still. For 2 years I cried to point I didn't think any more tears. And Jenn acts like doesn't bother her at all. Like for real!
@@babettenorrell5881but if they had all this money flowing in then why would she risk her life to lie and give plasma for a couple hundred bucks? Sounds more like she was broke and struggling, not making Child P $$$. That's contradicting and doesn't really make sense. And the burner phone thing... sorry, Jenn is too scary and obviously not that smart. Everyone knows those calls are recorded. I highly doubt she would risk her freedom to chat with him about what??? He is done! No need to talk anything out. She probably just happy to not get charged with child neglect she definitely wouldn't call him and incriminate herself.
Not only did Maddie NOT have her own room..did anyone else notice the cat's litterbox..just outside the partition of Maddie's "room"? Simply disgusting! Absolutely no care or concern for that poor baby girl.. no privacy, no protection, no regard... no bedroom..just adjacent to where the cats 💩 No one in that house or family gave any thought to Maddie. Maddie deserved SO much better🪽🙏🏼🪽
IF LE DOESN'T CHARGE JS FOR AT LEAST CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, I DON'T EVER WAN'T TO SEE ANOTHER MOTHER OR FATHER OR BOTH CHARGED AGAIN. THEY WON'T HARDLY FIND A CASE AS BAD AS THIS ONE BECAUSE I BELIEVE JS WAS INVOLVED IN THE BED ACTIVITY!!! SHE HAD TO BE. JUST THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
Hello Vinnie, I have to speak up about Jenn Soto. First of all the story she gives about her Bi-Polar medication on Sunday Night when she got home and went to take her meds!!!!! She said she noticed she did not take it on saturday night and she had had a bad day and so she realized her BI Polar was coming out. I am Bi Polar 2 also, and I will say everyone's body and chemical make up is different. But missing one nights dose of medicine would not have had her all out of sorts!!! I am 64 yrs old and I have missed several days at a time of meds. I'm going to say that's a poor excuse to need a good night's rest. She only thought of herself and in every interview it's me, me, me!!! We haven't heard very much about her beautiful daughter. Well it hasn't come out of her mouth about her daughter. Her behaviour is so strange concerning her daughter. If most of us out here admitted to letting our daughter snuggle and cuddle with an old boyfriend, we would surely be in jail. So today I hear he had lots of money, I believe money was involved between the two of them. So that may have a lot to do with her sending her daughter to sleep upstairs with Stephen. In the pictures of Maddies make shift bedroom, his underwear was thown on top of her laundry basket and the childs under pants were found down in the sheets. What mother over looks this????? She should also be in jail awaiting trial for child abuse and neglect and more I believe!!!!😢😢💔💔🙏🙏😠😠😠
I agree with you. Being bipolar, missing medication for one night or two doesn’t make go crazy. She is using mental illness as an excuse. From what it sounds, Jenn is an addict and she willingly gave her daughter to Stephan in order to keep him around. She didn’t want to lose him. Also, Jenn sounds like Stephan was her child and his needs were more important. Bipolar is different for everyone.
Can’t agree more. She gives any of us with mental health problems a bad name.I know 2 family members with bipolar polar and they adore and care for their children.I have suffered with anxiety and depression at intervals I raised my children without putting it on them.She knows and she enabled it Lock her up.
I agree! It also doesn’t make you make decisions such as sending your child to bed with your boyfriend. And let’s not forget this wasn’t a one time thing. I have bipolar 2 too.
I'm bipolar and have been taking medicine for it for 27 years now. I have forgotten a dose plenty of times and NEVER felt any adverse effects. She's just a shitty person.
@@yiayiapreeper595plus the ex girlfriend who heard of his erection to the child and reported zero. And so is the roommate that accepted money from his mother to not report him to the police for recording his girlfriend that his childhood friends reported
Did we all forget he had the app telegram on his phone? The factory reset??? He was absolutely selling the material he had on his phone for $$. I hope he gets charged for everything!!! Rest in peace Madeline, I’m so sorry more wasn’t done to protect you
Sorry, I saw this now! I posted the same! It's suspicious that she says these things, I think, just as if she wants to come across as a good mother who had the situation under control, and didn't risk anything happening to her daughter, and so she chooses to let this poor girl sleep in the same bed as the creature! Disgusting!
I think that was a lame attempt by JS to try to make it seem like she was hyper vigilant to investigators . Laughable, like they weren’t aware of her negligence. She belongs in jail they know it and they are also disgusted; her day is coming.
The grandma is speaking but she came out in the Mexican channel Univision & Telemundo but the grandma has been speaking & also very clearly said she couldn’t stand SS that she couldn’t put her finger in in but she 15:03 could stand him on top of him not working ,lazy eating up all there food & just standing around Maddie just watching her 24 /7 .
My cat is temporarily housed somewhere else while we are trying to sell our house. I've cried over being away from my cat more than Jen has shown caring about her daughter being RAPED and MURDERED. She is a sick puppy, I'm sure of it. I'm praying she is held accountable.
It was said maddie was upset she didn't get much for her birthday. I've thought all along JS cancelled Botox cause she planned to "borrow" birthday money.
These days, they tend to throw types like him together with other such creeps. And/or isolate them completely. In gen pop, he would probably be dead within less than two years.
@@jenniferleitner6071 right now he might be in solitary but he'll eventually get put into gp or protected custody. Even they have their hierarchy. Give it time.
Amazing how articulate and NON HEARING IMPAIRED the mom is vs how Stearns described them to the detective....'2 deaf people screaming at each other and surrounded by yapping Poodles, while making end-of-life decisions'.
They do but then they get to the very important people then stop. Only the low level get arrested. This crap goes WAY to the top. Politicians and Royals.
They don't need Jenn as a witness. We all know they don't need her as a witness. That woman is a monster. We've all sat back and listened to her lie, lie, lie, lie, casually change her story, brag up Sterns while degrading Maddie, get a lawyer for the man who abused and ended her child while her child was still missing, trying her best to make sure Maddie never was found. Say she hoped Stephan hadn't spoken to the police. Say okay fine, about him abusing her daughter. At what point do we stop making excuses for this monster of a woman? She needs to be held accountable,
Why would the prosecution want her as a witness? Her story is she took pills, knocked herself out and saw and heard nothing and what she did hear or see, she changes her timeline when it''s been proven those events could not have taken place when she said. She is a terrible witness. Time they charged her. She isn't needed
Seriously, her testimony will NOT help convict SS, she's still sticking to the original story about him dropping her off at school and running errands (looking for trading cards that kids play with) getting a flat tire etc. She's a terrible witness because all she says is "I'm going to say I don't recall."
I've been saying all along I think they've been waiting to charge JS with anything because she may be involved in the bigger case of CP...plus others... Everyone wants JS arrested right now... I want her arrested when they have finished the getting all the evidence case there is tons... Pray for the investigators who have to look at that sick stuff... RIP Maddie... Justice is coming... You are loved by the thousands now...💞🙏💞
Agreed 100% I think they don’t need JS for Madeline’s case. This may be a bigger Federal case, if so they probably want to keep her out of jail for surveillance. There may be more victims, SS didn’t start harming children at age 37.
She might, or might not, make a good prosecution witness. Depends on how much she was involved vs just a neglectful c*** and how much she can, um, recover her sanity enough to make a good showing on the stand. In any deal the prosecutors will stipulate that any testimony found not to be truthful they'll throw the book at her. I'm sure that's being considered.
@@OwenGilmoreOG Agree... I'd be really surprised if she's not already in a psych ward... In one of her interviews she mentioned about. "keeping herself together" or something like that... I won't doubt if she was involved, she won't use it as a defense for herself... God only knows they blame their meds enough...
When he was younger a former childhood “friend” said he recorded the guys girlfriend and he found out and his mom paid him off to not call police and he accepted the cash He also recorded this female roommate and Maddie
She told Maddie’s bio father “not to try no shit with Maddie like peeping at Maddie from under the bathroom door or having cameras installed in a bathroom. She knew he had done this why would she say that to Maddie’s bio dad?
J Soto "I can't sleep with Maddie anymore. I can't risk it..." Are there hidden cameras throughout the bedrooms there? J Soto, to me, knows these images of her daughter are being sold on the web. And she (J Soto) doesn't want to be seen in those photos and then implicated as an adult. She is 100% a colluder in this sickening case. So are his parents. They knew these two adults were allowing a child to sleep with them. Including their son sleeping with Madelyn. It's on tape. Their words.
I disagree with Vinnie on the circumstantial vs. direct evidence in the murder case. Stephan carrying Maddies dead body to the trunk and putting her in it seems like direct evidence to me..
@@KimberlyBishh But that’s only evidence that he carried her body. It’s not direct evidence that he committed the murder. If the video had shown that it would be direct evidence.
@@BabyT709 Sterns moved Maddie from the front seat into the trunk when he pulled into a parking garage where it was caught on a security camera. I don’t believe any channel showed the video but it was referred to in the written evidence by law enforcement. It may have also been disclosed by the sheriff during one of the press conferences but I am not sure. I don’t think anyone can show the video because that would be a UA-cam violation. 😉
It would be nearly impossible for Jenn not to know what was happening to poor Maddie. They shared a townhouse with tenants and stayed pretty much to themselves crammed in those bedrooms. She would literally have to be blind and deaf. Arrest her nasty self.
@@tvcat3665they knew because they told her she was sleeping in his room or saw her in his room and they didn’t want to share a bathroom with him and one was being recorded by him
I believe this is Why Jen kept him around…..God forbid she may have assisted him in creating his content to earn said money. “I can’t risk it anymore” in reference to Maddie sleeping with her….all the photos…that many photos took lots of time and access to Maddie. Why did Jen lie to help protect him? Why does Jen have such a non- response? Because she already hardened herself and justified it in her mind….and I speculate Because she’s in on it and she gained financially as well. I pray for Justice for Maddie and that they will be able to prove definitively Jen’s involvement or innocence…..but sadly I fear she was involved. It’s really the only thing that adds up given her behavior.
In a email from his parents they state that they will keep quiet and let him continue to take the fall. (Something to that effect) To me that signifies that they know JS was involved somehow. He may have told them at some point?
Hey Vinny,I’m one of your oldest followers from way back when it was it was you, Ashley, Banfield,OJ and the rest. I’m 82 ,had to leave Court TV to raise my family But I’m back. Anyway I’m sitting here watching and listening to you like the old days. This is a most bizarre case. The players are all peculiar ,the slimy little creep Stephen, Maddy’s mother the zombie,.his parents who are quite strange. Today’s topic about him possibly making big bucks on this website,I am questioning if he had the intelligence to even understand how to become involved with a sophisticated pornography program that could put money in his pocket. I don’t underestimate the idiots ability to sell photos to a small time person who dabbles in pornography and other illicit activities. If Stephen was making big bucks, why was he driving that hunk of junk? Why were they living in a home that was basically rooms for rent?? come on? Why would Dopey Jen have to work at all. So many questions,I’m hoping the world will eventually get some answers as this goes to trial. I’ve noticed already the actual reason we are all mesmerized by this case is finding justice for that beautiful child Maddy who is hardly mentioned any more as more and more details seem to surface 💔
I was hoping someone would highlight this part (financial) of the reason to explain Mothers indifference-- thank you for shedding light on this connection
His parents also financed him, so this could be another deflection off of them. Why did the dad have the thumb drive, after the house was searched? The home computer of the parents was missing the hard drive… how was SS keeping these images on the family computer without at least his dad knowing?
The mother paid off someone when SS was younger to not go to the police The childhood friends split the beans about SS and his parents It’s very telling
Yes he was talking about how oddly and anxious he was that he needed medication... Why did he ask about his mom and dad for Xanax?? If he knew neither one of them took this medication? They know way more then what they're saying
He was going crazy Saturday because he knew what he was going to do to Maddie on Sunday. Jen also said she was not herself at work Saturday and people noticed the difference because she “forgot to take her medicine the night before”. Really??? I bet she knew what SS was going to do to Maddie Sunday night and that’s why she sent Maddie upstairs to “sleep” with him. That’s why she chose to work instead of going to Maddie’s bday party, to distance herself from Maddie that day. What mother doesn’t prioritize her daughter’s 13th bday party, regardless of a new job? She could have made arrangements with the employer, I’ve done it a million times for my kids, and most employers will allow the time off for a special occasion like that. She worked at Disney! Like Disney would say no to that! Her excuses make no sense. I believe she knew and she’s playing dumb. There are too many inconsistencies in her statements and her body language screams guilt. Her uncontrollable shaking in the first interview was FEAR. I hope LE proves her involvement, or at the very least her compliance, and arrests her and she gets life in prison where she can sleep all day on a tiny uncomfortable mattress.
@@SmilesAreFreee💯 also when Chris Sterns told Stephan he didn't have any Stephan found 4 year old meds in the house and took those that night according to Chris Sterns.
Yeah I wonder what they took out of his room Monday eve. Roommate said tools were used Monday night. Was there a safe with money and what else? Just wondering out loud? Then dad drove to get a hotel room for them? But she was going to spend $350. On Botox. But she can’t get her own room? So what was taken out of the room? Where did he take it to? Someplace near his parent’s house or the storage shed? But dad didn’t “notice” it. Because it’s full of money or hidden. Just a thought.
I wouldn’t get excited about the parents blaming “them” for receiving and spending money. When did Stephan’s parents ever miss an opportunity to shift blame for Stephan’s actions? His friend was a “bad influence,” Jenn “couldn’t keep a job,” while Baby Boy never even tried to get a job. Why would he? He had sponsors, just like when he was 12 years old. It’s ridiculous.
SS childhood friends spilt the beans about him, his mother and father The interviews from those people plus the parents themselves and the actions of their monster son is all we need to know
Well, I wonder lots of things about the way people spend money and you can definitely see where her priorities were! My example would be someone who buys a 8 dollar coffee everyday on the way to work but Botox is so expensive and doesn’t even last 3 months then you have to get it again.. there is no way Jennifer could have afforded it on disability income!
Her botox was covered by a grant because of the arachnid Cist she had removed. She knew nothing, and spreading these false theories is getting dangerous
I believe Jennifer was in this, the I can't risk it comment weighs heavy, I believe Jennifer's room was the focal room where many things were happening. They were both in this SA towards Maddie for financial gain and no doubt Jennifer was the picture and video taker.
There had to be $$ coming from the room rentals in her apartment and it bothers me that SS's mom does try to "share" the blame for what her son did. He was still a non working son living in their basement before he met Jen and I have no doubt he has had ways to permanently "borrow" $$ from his parents and other non job related ways of buying the stuff he has wanted for years.
@@tiffanyhodges2499 They NEVER said that. 🙄 Get your words right. At this moment, she's not being charged. They NEVER said she knew nothing nor did nothing.
@@tiffanyhodges2499 And that was in response to the rumors a new station put out that an (anonymous) source said Jen Soto did nothing illegal and would not be arrested. This is a murder case and Jen Soto has clearly done and said many things that make her suspicious. She was the one who kept sending her daughter to sleep with the man who unalived Maddie. They have forever to find her guilty of being involved in any form.
I think if Jennifer mental health was so bad, why the hell did she have custody of Madeline???? 😡😡😡 Jennifer couldn’t hardly take care of herself, much less take care and protect Madeline!!!!! This whole thing makes me furious!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
I don't know how she drives, obviously couldn't parent on all those meds and the doctor didn't even question her birth control ,she must not have used any why else would she need pregnancy tests ?
@@Lisa-r6u1w holy 💩 I didn’t realize that Jen wasn’t on BC?! Obviously 13 year old MS (in that house wasn’t on it). Jen was bi, but said she wasn’t with him since Xmas?! The BC slipped my mind👀
From the minute I heard Jen distinguish the SA from the murd3r (denouncing the murd3r as evil), I believe 💯 she was complicit because he was bringing in money from the sale of the pictures and recordings. I can imagine she rationalized it as Maddy was drugged already (probably with clonidine or something that helped her come down from the stimulant adhd meds), so she wouldn’t remember it. She needed the money because she couldn’t hold a job. It’s just disgusting. How there were so many other adults in the home that didn’t notice is mind boggling.
If your renting a room would you go in that childs roòm to look under the covers to see who's sleeping in that bed ? Ofcourse not , the one did question Jenn about them playing a video games in a room but that's not enough to think Jenn would allow that kinda behavior.
A beautiful child with the promise of an awesome future had to die because of this sick and evil man. I say this regarding my childhood experience of abuse, little Madeleine must have had a world of hurt in her heart and soul, never telling anyone as it goes on for years. Please, justice for sweet child, Madeleine,
It’s NOT just him There’s many dirty hands on this case and cases like this I’m truly sorry for all the victims and survivors May they know peace, healing, wisdom, discernment, protection, God and knowledge that these predators will pay in more ways than one ☝🏾
RIGHT?! She is so self-involved to the point where it's child-like. 36 year old woman in tears over her "worst birthday ever" while her only child is GONE.
Stephan's father has been paying his son's way his whole life. Why? What does 'Dad' get out of paying his adult son's way? What does Dad get out of this arrangement? Why would Stephan's mother pay people to make her son's illegal or inappropriate activities 'disappear?' Stephan's mother (parents) knew of other children in her son's life prior to Madeline. Let's talk about that ...
Yes guys your right about his parents only child they were enablers no matter what he's done they help him cover it up. Put now that the truth is out now there throwing him under the bus to not take heat for there sick son there guilty for creating this guy by giving him everything and not teaching him responsibility and discipline he thought he was entitled to everything never grew up
Because they are both narcissists and enablers and created this monster SS childhood fitness did interviews and spilt the beans on SS and his parents which is very telling
She made her daughter live in a living room! She had no privacy. She was stripped of that. That’s what abusers and monsters do. She was in the center of that house exposed to everyone and everything! And that was done intentionally by her own mother.
@@SydMountaineerFor sure a network. Many are probably on edge as we speak, when the investigators follow all the transactions of files, they'll find them. They probably have their hands full with the Madeleine case right now, but when that is settled, they will continue and trace it all.
AND MORE, SHE HAD ORDERED THINGS FROM AMAZON SAYING BIRTHDAY. IT WAS FOR HER, AND DID YOU SEE HER BUST OUT CRYING WHEN SHE REALIZED IT WAS MARCH 1ST AND THE NEXT DAY WAS HER BIRTHDAY. SHE REALLY CRIED AND SAID SOME BDAY!!!! WHAT ABOUT MS B'DAY ON FEB 22ND, NOTHING>>>>>>THE SORRY BEACH
I have to agree with you , Even though I believe Jenn had some kind of knowledge or sense what was going on if not everything , Deb sterns is definitely trying to play blame game to protect her son.
@@purtykatzthey didn't disown him. They even called the jail worried because he hadn't called them in 2 weeks and they continue to send him money for his commissary. Poor baby needs his ramen noodles and candy bars
He probably just told Jenn he got the $ from his parents or lied about selling off some of his collectibles. She is over medicated on psych drugs and, frankly, not very bright. I think Jenn SHOULD have known and I think she deliberately refused to think about it, but I believe her confession. She has no business being the guardian of ANYBODY, especially a vulnerable child, and probably could use some supervision, herself. Maddie had ZERO childhood. This is so horrible. It makes me sick for that little girl. Can you imagine … take yourself back to age 13 … all of that confusion of adolescence … and then think about how it felt to be Maddie at 13 years old … having been raped, molested and tormented since the first or second grade!! Think about how she must have felt. Then, look at that sweet face of hers in her birthday dress, the dark circles under those wide, despairing eyes, cracking a slight smile. What an empty, horrible world she was forced to inhabit. I am so, so sorry she never found anyone to help her.
I think his parents are getting worried. He stopped calling and emailing them. They need to keep him happy, pay for his candy and pickles, so he doesn't speak on their part of this case. CS gave me the ick the first interview I saw. They both decide to do a interview with the worse UA-camer on this platform and then condemn the public for calling it like we see it.
😒 🤔 yeah, There was no meantion on good ole 'grampa' in relation to Maddie..just that she slept w/ pos SS mom when they stayed over.. you got me thinking bout what wasn't said!
They’re hands are very dirty and have been dirty since the gate SS childhood friends did interviews and split the beans on SS and his parents Big time narcissists, racists and enablers
Whoever is without sin throw the first stone! I pray none of you judges profess to be Christians????? Yes it’s horrendous what those two did- but he is their son, but that doesn’t make the parents guilty by association!
If his parents were concerned about Stephan telling their role in the case they would not have let police search without a warrant, tell the police they question how well they really know Stephan, tell the police what a loser he is and they never say he's not capable of this. They're not trying very hard to keep him quiet to me. And last jail call dad pretty much told him he's not going to keep giving him money. So that doesn't sound like guilty associates. They're not concerned with keeping him happy. The parents guilt lies where everyone else around Maddie lies, they didn't report their suspicions. Ppl don't know that u don't need proof just suspicion to report abuse.
@void________ this man had his computer/hard drives within his parents home. He had unexplainable money, borrowed their vehicle, and stayed in their home rent free. I'll never believe that neither of them went snooping in his business. In the very least that would be make me suspicious of drug dealing or similar. The last call did sound like his dad was asking for answers to questions they knew better to ask. Doesn't seem like a ex cop trying protect their child (as they claim) it just makes me wonder.
Jenn says Chris came to pay for the room, Chris says he paid pet deposit they paid for their room...I've wondered if perhaps stephan lied to both and he paid for hotel but where did he get money??
I just admire his parents. They questioned his behavior, told him he should in no way be sleeping with Maddie, now speaking out, honestly and not trying to defend the creep. Upstanding people!
Listen to the SS childhood friends who spilt the beans on SS and his parents Very telling These parents hands are dirty dirty just like JS and SS ex roommate and ex girlfriend
In a text between Jen and SS she states "i can no longer sleep with Maddie, it's too risky". There is something to that imo. When questioned about it, she said she didn't remember why she said it. They didn't press her, and moved on, but why?
The words you surrounded with quotation marks are in the same ballfield as the true quote, but the wording is not accurate, therefore the quote is wrong.
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140The blood draw was due to Jenn being on psyche meds. The tests are done to be sure patients are taking their medicine and that it is at theraputic level or higher and to make sure theevels are not too high. I take a psyche med that has to be checked by blood draw every so often so the psyche Dr knows I'm ok .
I don’t see him admitting anything or testifying. I personally don’t think he shared any of the money with JS and pretended he didn’t have any money. I don’t think he was injured that bad when he was a kid or they would have kept him overnight
Exactly. I don't think his "TBI" is bad at all...his mom even said he tested genius levels of IQ... which is difficult to believe but she said that was after the accident. And if there was any serious injury, you're right. They would've kept him overnight.
Maybe he felt unprotected, uneasy, less carefree with his parents after he got hit by the vehicle- he was pretty little. His parents don’t seem very affectionate. And then the parents just want to explain it with an injury.
@@SydMountaineer It isn't the hotel's fault. Their "guests" probably do many things you wouldn't like. If that is your criteria, there isn't ANY hotel you would stay in. Good luck with that attitude.
Not just Maddie , if she’s including the pictures on the hard drive , those weren’t Maddie . Those were 3 other children . I want to know if He was in those puctures like he was with Maddie . Who are those kids . Is he in the pictures ? Did he buy them ? From who ? Or are they other peoples children that do not know or are they his own brothers kids ? Who and where are they now ? Alive or dead ?
I watch a lot of those videos where they catch online predators. Most of predators say they use that telegram app to buy and trade their disgusting material. So I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was using the app for the same thing.
I don't see signs of money. Old cars, too many people crammed into a condo, a kid who wears the same outfit half of the time, no vacations, no fine dining, no expensive clothes.
So the week Madi went missing, when Sterns was arrested for Abuse of Madeline. Another person was raided in St Cloud Florida. "Santa Cox" could they have been involved with selling Videos, pictures to same people?
Yes....been saying this early on. The rings are in Florida too. Wondering if these rings connected to sex trafficking of Diddy. Big jump but all these cases overlap in time.
He removed the hard drive. That’s why he had to go to the storage unit. He was selling for a long time. What if Maddie was again out of the age were she could make him lots of money. He needed to start doing something more elaborate in order to keep his clients interested. Maybe whatever he was trying to do with Maddie event wrong and he accidentally killed her.
Jen should not have received immunity. There is no way this woman was so blind for so many years. It’s like Jen questioned nothing in her life. She put Maddie in danger, sent Maddie to sleep with her boyfriend?!!!
They aren't going to until they get him fried for sure and they are getting further evidence towards him, before going after her! They want the information given to them with her free that will go way beyond both of them! She will get it!
@@sassyvice420 The DA would need a rock solid case. If they don't have that, they'd risk never being able to charge her. Its better that they wait until all their evidence is strong enough. Jenn isn't a risk to society, so its best that law enforcement takes the time to get EVERYTHING they can.
She’s a narcissist and an enabler She’s deflecting while projecting/confessing Do the research on narcissistic parents and why they behalf the way they do especially towards their child as they see them as a reflection of themselves
Why were his parents knowing he had money but paying his rent for that room to JS/her dad? You know they had to have questioned his spending while sending rent.
The Stefan Stearns family is in question to me. Seemingly helpful and normal, their son just "picks up" pedophilic behavior and possibly M Soto is not his first victim. This doesn't happen in a vacuum. And it didn't escape the Stearns' attention.
Well you can just look at your husband or boyfriends phone and see what he is watching there, probably a lot of porn sites and disturbing things you dont know about
As a mom and a grandparent, the instinctive response to this is to un alive him...... I don't understand Jen....... 😕 I know not to, just my response is to want to if that were to happen to my child or grandchild......
The theme song is too heavy lol😂. Vinnie, so glad you are pressing this issue. You seem to be the only one following it through. WHERE WAS THE MONEY COMING FROM!?!?
No, if Jen got Botox for headaches, we would’ve heard all these stories about how she couldn’t do this because of migraines. That actually would’ve been a better cover story & lie to say she got migraines & couldn’t physically take the noise of other people. I’ve seen someone throw up because of the noise of walking & a door opening & closing. I’ve seen pics somewhere of Jen from a few years ago & she has a huge, mad-looking wrinkle in the middle of her forehead. She gets that huge brow wrinkle botoxed for vanity.
@@Stormstorm1 Botox for migraine treatment is covered by Medicare and Medicaid if she’s on Social Security Disability or SSI, if it’s deemed medically necessary by your doctor. You must have 15 migraines or more per month.
I don't think THEY were getting the money.....Stephan was the one getting the money. bc go back to when Jen said Where did he get the money to buy all this stuff and he said he stole it from his parents. I find his Mother is still taking up for her Son.
Except that Jen said she cancelled her Botox appointment because she didn’t want to pay 1500.00 . If she’s even considering spending 1500 on Botox when she has worked for 2 days , THEY. Are spending . No way a poor person on disability makes an appointment to spend 1500 on Botox . And what did Maddie get for her birthday , nothing but dead from Jen . Possibly literally by Jen’s hands if her statement about woody Allen was a real Freudian slip .
where was the money coming from for the botox? She also said in her interview he contributed to groceries and stuff, so not living off her, not all the time anyway.
@@traceymitchell6619 that’s still living off of her stepdad who owned the house . Neither of them had jobs . She had worked like 2 days . His parents were strait forward he is a narcissist . Jen was too . Maddie didn’t have a chance . But I kind of think maybe she was planning on living elsewhere . With her grandma or her dad possibly . She had aged out for Stefan I think . I want to know about the kids in the other pictures . The fact that there are 3 makes me think they’re his victims but it may be how he sells too ?
Jen had no job yet was able to afford $350 for Botox the week of her daughter's birthday. How? Of course, the day Maddie was unalived by SS, she suddenly cancelled it and claimed it was because she didn't want to spend the money. Convenient if she's had knowledge and/or was involved.
What were they spending all this supposed money on? They lived in an apartment with multiple roommates. Jenn couldn’t go to the birthday party because she had to work. He was using his dad’s car. If there was so much money, none of this makes sense.
Jenn was in training. Which means she just started this job. Where was she working b4 that and when did that job end? Jenn stated that during covid they were "all" living off her disability. Which could not have been enough to support herself Maddie & the leech SS. Jenns dad only charged her $450 rent per month. I don't see how she could even afford that plus extras per month: food, car, gas, clothing, toiletries, insurance for car..... Jenn says she canceled an appt for a $350 botox treatment that same day Maddie went missing- because she changed her mind . Who in their right mind would even look into that expensive procedure and book an appt ~ if they didn't have the extra $$ to cover it? I feel like jenn canceled that appt after Maddie was killed because she knew there would be an investigation into all their personal stuff
Ss spent money on expensive toys. Not sure about js. But they had to pretend to be poor because they didn't work. Then people would ask and they'd have to answer, oh well selling csam is easy and very lucrative, you should give it a try.
@@normac9931SS’s dad said he’d been paying Jenn’s dad $600/mo rent for him to live in that condo. Plus the roommates are paying rent. Sounds like she won’t be paying a dime herself.
That could be why she made the statement that she ‘couldn’t risk it anymore’ maybe she has a telegram account too or she was taking/selling pics. She knew something was going on & making the Woody Allen comment gave her away. She offered that info she wasn’t asked!
That's what I think the extent of Jen was. She knew Stephan was selling pictures of Maddie being abused. She maybe thought Maddie was unconscious for the abuse and didn't see anything wrong with it 🙄
31:08 Vinnie, the investigators have already disclosed there were many children victims in these photos. One of the hard drives found had nothing but other children victims. But that it would be impossible to ID all of them.
It's possible to do a lot more then the powers that be care to...why CP touches sooo far & wide...it's a sickening plague on almost every small community now. SA go unpunished /& get off charges very lightly
The mother of Sterns is a liar for her loser son. Sterns' parents don't like Jenn Soto and initially were accusing HER not their son. See the letter the mother wrote to Stephan in jail. Jenn may not have been spending the money with him but she did know about the SA.
I would use discretion when listening to Sterns’s mother trying to implicate Jen. The parents really want Jen to be responsible for their sons atrocious behavior. Not completely sure Jen wasn’t at least aware, but she’s not currently charged and I think the parents want her to be.
There were three questions that many of us have: was Stephan selling the photos, was Maddie pregnant, and why isn’t Jennifer Soto charged with anything!?!
Exactly 💯
He trafficked in CP. 😲💀
Direct evidence?
Wasn't there CC footage of him carrying Maddie's body from the passenger seat to the trunk? 😲💀
He could have instead remained a non-offending loser, privaely enjoying his games & toys . . . & accomodating "personal needs" with a "Flesh Lite."
😢😭😭😭
@@LoriKasprzak-kc7xc Yes! A video of him driving around with her dead in the car and also stopping at a hotel to move her body to the trunk? Sometimes circumstantial just leads to one answer. Guilty as hell!
Jenn called her dead daughter a “body”. She also said sexual abuse was not “evil”. That is no mother! She was definitely involved and we all want her to pay the price.
She also said AFTER she was shown explicit photos of what Stephan did to her daughter that she still thought he was "a good guy" ... referring to her not wanting to believe he had also killed her.
That's actually not what she said or how she said it you have to watch all of those interviews
Cannot agree more!
and she did not want to press charges for the SA just after seeing the evidence. who would do that if they were not complicit?
Lock her up!!
So sick and tired of Jen Soto not being arrested or charged.
She failed to protect her child from harm. She was in on knowing what was happening in room #4. She is a lying POS..
Honey the entire world feels that way, but there has to be somebody to testify against a defendant, if you're going to try somebody with a crime there has to be some type of witness to that crime to prove that this guy committed a crime.
@@michelej8571He had hundreds of images of him SA'ing Maddie on his phone, starting when she was age 8. That's hard evidence. Plus is Jenn a good witness when her first reaction after seeing just 1 image the Detective showed her, was, "have you got any other evidence?" Grim.
Trust the process.
@@sarahholland2600very nasty behavior from her. I know she said it more than twice can you prove that to me and the cops like well look closer. And then she wanted to see it one more time just before the interview was over just to make sure. And I'm pretty sure it was Maddie's face etc.
Sick broad.
" The sex stuff was not evil, but murder is"--SHE KNEW
"The Woody Allen situation"--SHE KNEW
The text that she replied "It's too risky" or " I'm not risking it" to Stephan---SHE KNEW
Where was she getting the money for Botox?--SHE KNEW
"I gave her a double dose of medication"--SHE KNEW
@@missIssa-r8f yep. She just took her meds to knock herself out so she didn’t have to think about it.
Yes she did and is even more guilty then SS since she gave birth to this innocent girl then used her to make $$ and keep a perv around. I do not claim her as a woman or a mother, she is neither!
Yea I'm starting to really believe this and it's SO hard. I'm a mother and would NEVER sell my children! NEVER!!! The reason the lube and the tripod and all that was out in the open is because she knew. It's probably one of the reasons they drugged her. Jenn probably justified it like "she's not awake, she won't remember " OH. MY. GOD!!! SHE DID KNOW!!! she was allowing it! She liked the money. Eww she's gross
Rigjt the sex stuff CAN'T be evil because then that makes Mommy Dearest EVIL too!
That music is awful .Doesn't go with the the topic.
She was concerned about a Woody Allen situation. She was aware of what was happening.
1000%
Exactly that shows knowledge how can she not be in jail
He talked her into doing this now she plays dumb no way lick her up
As heinous as it is to say 🤢I think she knew full well about the abuse and she didn’t think it was that bad. Incredible, just unbelievable to think but I believe that’s what happened. Especially if there was money being made from images and videos. That’s a motive.
I am so sad for Maddy she had no chance with this woman as her mum.
Exactly 💯.. I think she said that without realizing it.. which tells me she knows something
I'm so tired of JS acting oh so innocent, hiding behind her "anxiety, gotta get a good night's sleep, etc etc". She makes me wanna puke. RIP Maddie. 😢
She hides behind all her psychological labels just like Stephan does.
Every excuse in the book for her laxadazel behavior. When Reality hits it's going to be Rough for JS.
SHE WOULD DO JUST FINE ON 2 OR 3 HOURS SLEEP!!! TRUTH IS KNOWN THAT"S HOW LONG SHE SLEEPS LATE AT NIGHT. THEN WAS BACK THEN COMING BACK HOME AND SLEEPING UNTIL SHE LEFT FOR MADDIE AT SCHOOL. SO JENNIFER, YOU MAY SLEEP AS LONG AS YOU LIKE NOW. MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP!!!! I PRAY THE DEVIL READS THIS!!! BOTH DEVILS>>>
😮 Yes... The entire house including the roommates constantly bringing up their mental health issues.. I'm not victim blaming whatsoever but it seems way too highlighted and I'm over hearing about ALL of them too
@@pla5730 People use it as an excuse for everything these days. They also use it to dominate situations.
I NEVER seen Jennifer or her Mom crying for Maddie. If it was me….I would STILL be on the floor,with a HEART ATTACK!!!!! DYING!! 😭
I would too. I know I couldn't bare loosing my child. Dear God this is aweful what this child was being made to do. I heard him talking to her teasing her with candy when she was about 6 or 7. And LE is saying about 4 years minimum. It was 6 or 7 years. I've listen to JS comments talking to the police. I have written it down every time she tells a different story. I am convinced she has a burner phone and is talking to SS about everyday. Phone calls from jail will be putting the calls out soon. She has something that disquises her voice. The number has been traced about 2 hours from her townhouse. They set this up before his arrest. Mark my word, you know how she has protected him even after she saw many pictures of CSAM!!! And even said thats not evil. It's been said they shopped all the time, and she had a Botox appt. But also gave plasma twice a week and that pays decent money and most centers give a big bonus after 3 to 5 weeks straight!!! But she found a plasma center she could lie to and say she wasn't on psych drugs or benzos like valium, xanax etc....she had to lie on her app because if your on any of those meds they won't take you. Bham, Al centers do a drug screen. I know this because people who work and need xtra money do it and I've checked into it when I was younger and my health was good. In my situation my hematocrit was too low. lol just being honest. I was single with 3 children and 2 jobs still wasn't enough.
I can't believe how unmoved Jenn is about her daughter, I'd be a freaking mess!!!! But I'd never send my child to sleep with any man either. And losing a child is the worse that can happen to any family! I lost a son in 2016 and I still have days is all I do is cry still. For 2 years I cried to point I didn't think any more tears. And Jenn acts like doesn't bother her at all. Like for real!
Never saw it and I bet she never did when alone either .
@@babettenorrell5881but if they had all this money flowing in then why would she risk her life to lie and give plasma for a couple hundred bucks? Sounds more like she was broke and struggling, not making Child P $$$. That's contradicting and doesn't really make sense. And the burner phone thing... sorry, Jenn is too scary and obviously not that smart. Everyone knows those calls are recorded. I highly doubt she would risk her freedom to chat with him about what??? He is done! No need to talk anything out. She probably just happy to not get charged with child neglect she definitely wouldn't call him and incriminate herself.
@babettenorrell5881 -- *losing 💜
If your shoelaces are loose you may lose your shoes!
Not only did Maddie NOT have her own room..did anyone else notice the cat's litterbox..just outside the partition of Maddie's "room"? Simply disgusting! Absolutely no care or concern for that poor baby girl.. no privacy, no protection, no regard... no bedroom..just adjacent to where the cats 💩 No one in that house or family gave any thought to Maddie.
Maddie deserved SO much better🪽🙏🏼🪽
No room for the daughter, but a room for a “guest room” makes no sense
In one of the evidence photos…. The one of her partitioned room, there is literal cat piss under her bed by the head of the bed.
@@JanzZone It looked like vomit, either way...poor Maddie. No person should live in those conditions.
@@WBee-jg8eg cat vomit?
And cats wants cleaness!!
Jennifer must be charged. Justice for Maddie.
IF LE DOESN'T CHARGE JS FOR AT LEAST CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, I DON'T EVER WAN'T TO SEE ANOTHER MOTHER OR FATHER OR BOTH CHARGED AGAIN. THEY WON'T HARDLY FIND A CASE AS BAD AS THIS ONE BECAUSE I BELIEVE JS WAS INVOLVED IN THE BED ACTIVITY!!! SHE HAD TO BE. JUST THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
@@babettenorrell5881grow up!
What kind of immunity deal they need to make with her when they had him dead to rights?
Thank you for continuing to cover this case! You are helping to bring Maddie justice.
I have never seen a mother react the way she has
You raise your daughter for 13 whole years, your baby, your teen and you are so cold with everything. That is NOT normal.
Can’t they follow incoming money transfers?
@@CuriousKat59it's harder with crypto
Check the bank accounts and venmo etc accounts
@@rachelavil6598 she loves Stern more
It’s not just her daughter!! ITS HER ONLY CHILD!! 😡
Hello Vinnie, I have to speak up about Jenn Soto. First of all the story she gives about her Bi-Polar medication on Sunday Night when she got home and went to take her meds!!!!! She said she noticed she did not take it on saturday night and she had had a bad day and so she realized her BI Polar was coming out. I am Bi Polar 2 also, and I will say everyone's body and chemical make up is different. But missing one nights dose of medicine would not have had her all out of sorts!!! I am 64 yrs old and I have missed several days at a time of meds. I'm going to say that's a poor excuse to need a good night's rest. She only thought of herself and in every interview it's me, me, me!!! We haven't heard very much about her beautiful daughter. Well it hasn't come out of her mouth about her daughter. Her behaviour is so strange concerning her daughter. If most of us out here admitted to letting our daughter snuggle and cuddle with an old boyfriend, we would surely be in jail. So today I hear he had lots of money, I believe money was involved between the two of them. So that may have a lot to do with her sending her daughter to sleep upstairs with Stephen. In the pictures of Maddies make shift bedroom, his underwear was thown on top of her laundry basket and the childs under pants were found down in the sheets. What mother over looks this????? She should also be in jail awaiting trial for child abuse and neglect and more I believe!!!!😢😢💔💔🙏🙏😠😠😠
I agree with you.
Being bipolar, missing medication for one night or two doesn’t make go crazy. She is using mental illness as an excuse.
From what it sounds, Jenn is an addict and she willingly gave her daughter to Stephan in order to keep him around. She didn’t want to lose him. Also, Jenn sounds like Stephan was her child and his needs were more important.
Bipolar is different for everyone.
Can’t agree more.
She gives any of us with mental health problems a bad name.I know 2 family members with bipolar polar and they adore and care for their children.I have suffered with anxiety and depression at intervals I raised my children without putting it on them.She knows and she enabled it Lock her up.
I agree! It also doesn’t make you make decisions such as sending your child to bed with your boyfriend. And let’s not forget this wasn’t a one time thing. I have bipolar 2 too.
I'm bipolar and have been taking medicine for it for 27 years now. I have forgotten a dose plenty of times and NEVER felt any adverse effects. She's just a shitty person.
she was trying to keep a job she just started days before.
Jen was an enabler!
Plus his parents
@@yiayiapreeper595plus the ex girlfriend who heard of his erection to the child and reported zero.
And so is the roommate that accepted money from his mother to not report him to the police for recording his girlfriend that his childhood friends reported
Did we all forget he had the app telegram on his phone? The factory reset??? He was absolutely selling the material he had on his phone for $$. I hope he gets charged for everything!!! Rest in peace Madeline, I’m so sorry more wasn’t done to protect you
I hope Jenn is charged as well
I watch Predator Poachers, and every Pred they arrest has CP on their phone and it came from Telegram
And also his trip back to his parents the night before he got arrested, was to try and wipe a hard drive with more cp on it
After Jennifer found out Sterns was stealing from his parents she still kept him around…
She said she didn't think he would steal from her! Make it make sense!🙄
It is also alleged he stole Madelines Christmas money, too. Clearly, that didn't bother Jenn too much, either!
Jen is a complete loser
Right! Shows she has no morals
@@little_ashlyn2688 I didn't hear about that. 😪
Thank you Vinnie. Someone needs to stand up for Maddie
Actually everybody but her mother is standing up for her.
Absolutely!
Remember Jen said she didn’t let Maddie go to slumber parties because things could happen. Yet sheet told her to sleep with Stephan!!!?
Sorry, I saw this now! I posted the same! It's suspicious that she says these things, I think, just as if she wants to come across as a good mother who had the situation under control, and didn't risk anything happening to her daughter, and so she chooses to let this poor girl sleep in the same bed as the creature! Disgusting!
I think that was a lame attempt by JS to try to make it seem like she was hyper vigilant to investigators . Laughable, like they weren’t aware of her negligence. She belongs in jail they know it and they are also disgusted; her day is coming.
That one was Nauseating! Lack of Self-Awareness much??
She said Maddie and sterns had ‘slumber parties’, sick!!!!
Yes she makes no sense Everyone picked up on this
Where are her parents and sister? Why aren't we hearing from her family?
Shame. Ashamed of Jenn
I’ve been wondering that too. Especially Jenn’s dad since he owned the place they lived at.
I heard the mother did an interview in Spanish on a Spanish news station
The grandma is speaking but she came out in the Mexican channel Univision & Telemundo but the grandma has been speaking & also very clearly said she couldn’t stand SS that she couldn’t put her finger in in but she 15:03 could stand him on top of him not working ,lazy eating up all there food & just standing around Maddie just watching her 24 /7 .
My cat is temporarily housed somewhere else while we are trying to sell our house. I've cried over being away from my cat more than Jen has shown caring about her daughter being RAPED and MURDERED. She is a sick puppy, I'm sure of it. I'm praying she is held accountable.
Remember Jenn Soto cancelled a $350 Botox appointment….where was she getting that money from.
Yeah first thing that came to mind was the stolen BD money and canceled Botox app happened same time.
It was said maddie was upset she didn't get much for her birthday. I've thought all along JS cancelled Botox cause she planned to "borrow" birthday money.
My first thought. She took her daughter's money but when everything hit the fan she put it back. Just my theory.
She needed that appointment 😂
@@donnamalone9018I think there wasn’t enough money I got the impression it was about $250 bd money so it wasn’t enough.
"Where did you get the money, Mr I have no job?!"☝️☝️☝️
Where else? Selling all those nasty photos of things he did to Maddie. Cant wait for him to get prison justice. And he will, too.
Sorry, BUT you'll never see prison justice take this mfer out. Chester's are segregated for that very reason.
I agree 💯 and I can't wait for it either!
These days, they tend to throw types like him together with other such creeps. And/or isolate them completely. In gen pop, he would probably be dead within less than two years.
In his parents interview they said he was in solitary. They weren't able to talk to him @taxiuniversum
@@jenniferleitner6071 right now he might be in solitary but he'll eventually get put into gp or protected custody. Even they have their hierarchy. Give it time.
Does anybody actually wonder where the money came from? Isn't it obvious 🥺
VERY OBVIOUS!!!
Selling CSAM and who knows, letting people thru the sliding glass door into Maddie's partition?
😢🎯@@morgantaylor517
@@morgantaylor517we know
It is CSAM
We’re not wondering
We know
Amazing how articulate and NON HEARING IMPAIRED the mom is vs how Stearns described them to the detective....'2 deaf people screaming at each other and surrounded by yapping Poodles, while making end-of-life decisions'.
Yesssss!
They’re no angels and their hands ain’t clean but yes to all you said
Yes! His mom was. Nothing like he described
Always follow the money, in any crime
💯
Unless money isn’t a factor.
Or, in any crime.
@@marymary20Money is always the reason why.
They do but then they get to the very important people then stop. Only the low level get arrested. This crap goes WAY to the top. Politicians and Royals.
They don't need Jenn as a witness. We all know they don't need her as a witness. That woman is a monster. We've all sat back and listened to her lie, lie, lie, lie, casually change her story, brag up Sterns while degrading Maddie, get a lawyer for the man who abused and ended her child while her child was still missing, trying her best to make sure Maddie never was found. Say she hoped Stephan hadn't spoken to the police. Say okay fine, about him abusing her daughter. At what point do we stop making excuses for this monster of a woman? She needs to be held accountable,
FLY HIGH SWEET MADDIE & REST PEACEFUL YOU ARE AWAY FROM THE TWO MONSTERS IMO 💜🕯🕊💜🕯🕊💜🕯🕊💜🕯🕊💜🕯🕊💜🕊💜🕯🕊
AMEN!!! RIP SWEET ANGEL! I'm so sorry
I hope her spirit isn’t lingering until Justice has been had
I hope her spirit flew the F up outta of this demonic low vibrational fallen realm
Why would the prosecution want her as a witness? Her story is she took pills, knocked herself out and saw and heard nothing and what she did hear or see, she changes her timeline when it''s been proven those events could not have taken place when she said. She is a terrible witness. Time they charged her. She isn't needed
They don’t need her. They have enough evidence against him to put him away forever. They need to charge her instead.
She should have been arrested early on!
I agree,she should be in jail alongside this murderer and perv.
I hope and pray Ss will tell on jen and her part in all this which is mind blowing!
Seriously, her testimony will NOT help convict SS, she's still sticking to the original story about him dropping her off at school and running errands (looking for trading cards that kids play with) getting a flat tire etc. She's a terrible witness because all she says is "I'm going to say I don't recall."
😮😮 Thank you Vinnie!! Your advocacy and compassion in speaking for the voiceless victims doesn't ho unnoticed. You are appreciated
I pray to God they can prove
CP and that Jen knew , prison time for BOTH 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yes and yea
But it’s not referred to CP anymore it’s CSAM
I've been saying all along I think they've been waiting to charge JS with anything because she may be involved in the bigger case of CP...plus others... Everyone wants JS arrested right now... I want her arrested when they have finished the getting all the evidence case there is tons... Pray for the investigators who have to look at that sick stuff... RIP Maddie... Justice is coming... You are loved by the thousands now...💞🙏💞
Agreed 100% I think they don’t need JS for Madeline’s case. This may be a bigger Federal case, if so they probably want to keep her out of jail for surveillance. There may be more victims, SS didn’t start harming children at age 37.
That’s called projection. She also didn’t want her daughter talking. More control equals less independence
She might, or might not, make a good prosecution witness. Depends on how much she was involved vs just a neglectful c*** and how much she can, um, recover her sanity enough to make a good showing on the stand. In any deal the prosecutors will stipulate that any testimony found not to be truthful they'll throw the book at her. I'm sure that's being considered.
@@OwenGilmoreOG Agree... I'd be really surprised if she's not already in a psych ward... In one of her interviews she mentioned about. "keeping herself together" or something like that... I won't doubt if she was involved, she won't use it as a defense for herself... God only knows they blame their meds enough...
Sadly Jen seems like she was jealous of Maddie and saw her as an inconvenience 😢
I know. Any male shows that much interest in my daughter and I'd protect my daughter. Jen should have reported him long ago.
Maybe that’s the case but I think Jennifer Soto is incapable of caring for a child. She has genuine mental health issues.
More like competition she's a complicit sicko
Not only an inconvenience - Jen saw Maddie as a rival.
It wasn’t “seems”
It was factual and clear as day
He is also guilty of peeping on the roommate! He’s such the worst kind of monster. A trail of victims in his wake.
He took photos of the one roommate. They interviewed her with a translater. She spoke Spanish
When he was younger a former childhood “friend” said he recorded the guys girlfriend and he found out and his mom paid him off to not call police and he accepted the cash
He also recorded this female roommate and Maddie
She told Maddie’s bio father “not to try no shit with Maddie like peeping at Maddie from under the bathroom door or having cameras installed in a bathroom. She knew he had done this why would she say that to Maddie’s bio dad?
J Soto "I can't sleep with Maddie anymore. I can't risk it..." Are there hidden cameras throughout the bedrooms there? J Soto, to me, knows these images of her daughter are being sold on the web. And she (J Soto) doesn't want to be seen in those photos and then implicated as an adult. She is 100% a colluder in this sickening case. So are his parents. They knew these two adults were allowing a child to sleep with them. Including their son sleeping with Madelyn. It's on tape. Their words.
Agree. Monster parents raised and enabled their Monster son🤬
They did seem to know what was on the computer/harddrive... 🤔
Yeah why didn’t they call cops on JS a long time ago.
@@carriesmith3421yup and why didn’t his ex when he told he got erections to Maddie didn’t report it to the cops
I disagree with Vinnie on the circumstantial vs. direct evidence in the murder case. Stephan carrying Maddies dead body to the trunk and putting her in it seems like direct evidence to me..
@@KimberlyBishh But that’s only evidence that he carried her body. It’s not direct evidence that he committed the murder. If the video had shown that it would be direct evidence.
@@bonnie6952-e7pwell hopefully Maddys fingernails will match the evidence on SS hands
Theres video of him putting her in the trunk? I never heard that, what channel was it on
@@BabyT709Plunder
@@BabyT709 Sterns moved Maddie from the front seat into the trunk when he pulled into a parking garage where it was caught on a security camera. I don’t believe any channel showed the video but it was referred to in the written evidence by law enforcement. It may have also been disclosed by the sheriff during one of the press conferences but I am not sure. I don’t think anyone can show the video because that would be a UA-cam violation. 😉
It would be nearly impossible for Jenn not to know what was happening to poor Maddie. They shared a townhouse with tenants and stayed pretty much to themselves crammed in those bedrooms. She would literally have to be blind and deaf. Arrest her nasty self.
All those people in the condo and no one knows nothing! Weird!
@@tvcat3665they knew because they told her she was sleeping in his room or saw her in his room and they didn’t want to share a bathroom with him and one was being recorded by him
I believe this is Why Jen kept him around…..God forbid she may have assisted him in creating his content to earn said money. “I can’t risk it anymore” in reference to Maddie sleeping with her….all the photos…that many photos took lots of time and access to Maddie. Why did Jen lie to help protect him? Why does Jen have such a non- response? Because she already hardened herself and justified it in her mind….and I speculate Because she’s in on it and she gained financially as well. I pray for Justice for Maddie and that they will be able to prove definitively Jen’s involvement or innocence…..but sadly I fear she was involved. It’s really the only thing that adds up given her behavior.
Spot on.
Even if Jen wasn’t involved, she’s a neglectful, horrible mother.
She lied and also tracked Maddies cycle which is very suspicious. My mom never tracked mine, and I didn't track my daughters. Seems weird.
@@Jessica-iq6kjEverything about these two are weird! Hope for justice for that poor little girl!
In a email from his parents they state that they will keep quiet and let him continue to take the fall. (Something to that effect) To me that signifies that they know JS was involved somehow. He may have told them at some point?
Hey Vinny,I’m one of your oldest followers from way back when it was it was you, Ashley, Banfield,OJ and the rest. I’m 82 ,had to leave Court TV to raise my family But I’m back. Anyway I’m sitting here watching and listening to you like the old days. This is a most bizarre case. The players are all peculiar ,the slimy little creep Stephen, Maddy’s mother the zombie,.his parents who are quite strange. Today’s topic about him possibly making big bucks on this website,I am questioning if he had the intelligence to even understand how to become involved with a sophisticated pornography program that could put money in his pocket. I don’t underestimate the idiots ability to sell photos to a small time person who dabbles in pornography and other illicit activities. If Stephen was making big bucks, why was he driving that hunk of junk? Why were they living in a home that was basically rooms for rent?? come on? Why would Dopey Jen have to work at all. So many questions,I’m hoping the world will eventually get some answers as this goes to trial. I’ve noticed already the actual reason we are all mesmerized by this case is finding justice for that beautiful child Maddy who is hardly mentioned any more as more and more details seem to surface 💔
😢 Well said my friend ❤!
I'm that old of a follower as well. Lol Hello 👋
I was hoping someone would highlight this part (financial) of the reason to explain Mothers indifference-- thank you for shedding light on this connection
His parents also financed him, so this could be another deflection off of them. Why did the dad have the thumb drive, after the house was searched? The home computer of the parents was missing the hard drive… how was SS keeping these images on the family computer without at least his dad knowing?
The mother paid off someone when SS was younger to not go to the police
The childhood friends split the beans about SS and his parents
It’s very telling
can the Woody Allen comment she made to Stephan be used against her? That could mean she knew
Exactly! Why say to Stephan that he can't do that to her! It must be a reason to say that!
His father said that SS was going crazy on Saturday. He removed the two hard drives.
Yes he was talking about how oddly and anxious he was that he needed medication... Why did he ask about his mom and dad for Xanax?? If he knew neither one of them took this medication? They know way more then what they're saying
They’ve got all those images. They don’t need Jen’s testimony. Jen should be in jail too.
He was going crazy Saturday because he knew what he was going to do to Maddie on Sunday.
Jen also said she was not herself at work Saturday and people noticed the difference because she “forgot to take her medicine the night before”. Really??? I bet she knew what SS was going to do to Maddie Sunday night and that’s why she sent Maddie upstairs to “sleep” with him. That’s why she chose to work instead of going to Maddie’s bday party, to distance herself from Maddie that day. What mother doesn’t prioritize her daughter’s 13th bday party, regardless of a new job? She could have made arrangements with the employer, I’ve done it a million times for my kids, and most employers will allow the time off for a special occasion like that. She worked at Disney! Like Disney would say no to that!
Her excuses make no sense. I believe she knew and she’s playing dumb. There are too many inconsistencies in her statements and her body language screams guilt. Her uncontrollable shaking in the first interview was FEAR.
I hope LE proves her involvement, or at the very least her compliance, and arrests her and she gets life in prison where she can sleep all day on a tiny uncomfortable mattress.
Maddie was talking to her Councellor ?
@@SmilesAreFreee💯 also when Chris Sterns told Stephan he didn't have any Stephan found 4 year old meds in the house and took those that night according to Chris Sterns.
Mom also says “they” because she doesn’t want all the blame to be put on Stephan.
Sterns Dad didn't need to drive up that night he could have booked and paid for rooms over the phone. He wanted anything incriminating out of the way.
Yeah I wonder what they took out of his room Monday eve. Roommate said tools were used Monday night. Was there a safe with money and what else? Just wondering out loud? Then dad drove to get a hotel room for them? But she was going to spend $350. On Botox. But she can’t get her own room? So what was taken out of the room? Where did he take it to? Someplace near his parent’s house or the storage shed? But dad didn’t “notice” it. Because it’s full of money or hidden. Just a thought.
This ☝🏾
Their hands are very dirty
SS childhood friends did interviews and spilt the beans on SS and his parents
Very telling These
I wouldn’t get excited about the parents blaming “them” for receiving and spending money. When did Stephan’s parents ever miss an opportunity to shift blame for Stephan’s actions? His friend was a “bad influence,” Jenn “couldn’t keep a job,” while Baby Boy never even tried to get a job. Why would he? He had sponsors, just like when he was 12 years old. It’s ridiculous.
Yup....everyone is to blame but them and their babyboy
@Tryingtohaveselfcontrol -- HI! Fellow Grizzly!! 💜🐻💜
@@stellaallbright4750 👋🏼💜
SS childhood friends spilt the beans about him, his mother and father
The interviews from those people plus the parents themselves and the actions of their monster son is all we need to know
@@NF40375 yes indeed. An entire novel on how monsters are created waiting to be written.
for JS to say they didn't have money to go out for dinner...but has the money for botox??? wow. She's as big of a liar as he is
I work full time and I can’t afford Botox . How can she afford Botox living off disability
Son dos estafadores ladrones
And a new car
Well, I wonder lots of things about the way people spend money and you can definitely see where her priorities were! My example would be someone who buys a 8 dollar coffee everyday on the way to work but Botox is so expensive and doesn’t even last 3 months then you have to get it again.. there is no way Jennifer could have afforded it on disability income!
Her botox was covered by a grant because of the arachnid Cist she had removed.
She knew nothing, and spreading these false theories is getting dangerous
Her mom failed her,her behavior was disgusting...no tears...no emotions....poor chold😮😮😮😢😢😢
She even gave ALL Maddies ashes away 2 her father
I believe Jennifer was in this, the I can't risk it comment weighs heavy, I believe Jennifer's room was the focal room where many things were happening. They were both in this SA towards Maddie for financial gain and no doubt Jennifer was the picture and video taker.
I forgot about that comment. You’re right!
@@lorigreen4134
They found tripods in Jens bedroom and Maddie’s bedroom. He didn’t need a videographer or photographer.
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SS' Mother minimizes her son's actions... She has itched to blame Jenn from day one.
There had to be $$ coming from the room rentals in her apartment and it bothers me that SS's mom does try to "share" the blame for what her son did. He was still a non working son living in their basement before he met Jen and I have no doubt he has had ways to permanently "borrow" $$ from his parents and other non job related ways of buying the stuff he has wanted for years.
They are coming for you Jenn Sòto
I sure hope she is charged she new something what was going on poor Maddie my she rest in peace and justice for this beautiful little girl
Not gonna happen. LE has already said that she didn't know anything.
@@tiffanyhodges2499 They NEVER said that. 🙄 Get your words right. At this moment, she's not being charged. They NEVER said she knew nothing nor did nothing.
@@tiffanyhodges2499 To be exact The Police Department Spokeswoman only said "We don't have charges for anyone else in this case *at this time*".
@@tiffanyhodges2499 And that was in response to the rumors a new station put out that an (anonymous) source said Jen Soto did nothing illegal and would not be arrested. This is a murder case and Jen Soto has clearly done and said many things that make her suspicious. She was the one who kept sending her daughter to sleep with the man who unalived Maddie. They have forever to find her guilty of being involved in any form.
I think if Jennifer mental health was so bad, why the hell did she have custody of Madeline???? 😡😡😡
Jennifer couldn’t hardly take care of herself, much less take care and protect Madeline!!!!! This whole thing makes me furious!!!
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Her bio -dad’s new wifey didn’t want the burden of raising Maddie?! Bio dad is a wimp!😢
Jenn didn't care or love her child. She used her. That woman is heartless.
No one cared to take her on and no one cared to investigate and no one cared to report
Simply no one cared hence the outcome
I don't know how she drives, obviously couldn't parent on all those meds and the doctor didn't even question her birth control ,she must not have used any why else would she need pregnancy tests ?
@@Lisa-r6u1w holy 💩 I didn’t realize that Jen wasn’t on BC?! Obviously 13 year old MS (in that house wasn’t on it). Jen was bi, but said she wasn’t with him since Xmas?! The BC slipped my mind👀
Why doesn't Jenn's Mother,Father,Stepfather,or Sister Stephanie speak out to defend their Family????
How could you?!? Why didn’t any of her family step in before any of this happened
There's no defense to be had.
@@ac703agree. They ALL FAILED MADDIE. 😢
You lot are all nuts.
That's Rude
In my 22 years of parenting 4 children I call COMPLETE BS on both of them!!!!!!
From the minute I heard Jen distinguish the SA from the murd3r (denouncing the murd3r as evil), I believe 💯 she was complicit because he was bringing in money from the sale of the pictures and recordings. I can imagine she rationalized it as Maddy was drugged already (probably with clonidine or something that helped her come down from the stimulant adhd meds), so she wouldn’t remember it. She needed the money because she couldn’t hold a job. It’s just disgusting. How there were so many other adults in the home that didn’t notice is mind boggling.
This ☝🏾
If your renting a room would you go in that childs roòm to look under the covers to see who's sleeping in that bed ? Ofcourse not , the one did question Jenn about them playing a video games in a room but that's not enough to think Jenn would allow that kinda behavior.
A beautiful child with the promise of an awesome future had to die because of this sick and evil man. I say this regarding my childhood experience of abuse, little Madeleine must have had a world of hurt in her heart and soul, never telling anyone as it goes on for years. Please, justice for sweet child, Madeleine,
It's so sad that Maddie didn't get a chance to grow up, plus what she went through so young. 😢
And a cold heartless lazy morher if not worse.
It’s NOT just him
There’s many dirty hands on this case and cases like this
I’m truly sorry for all the victims and survivors
May they know peace, healing, wisdom, discernment, protection, God and knowledge that these predators will pay in more ways than one ☝🏾
He probably stole Maddie's Birthday money.
her [Maddies] Christmas money went missing at one point.
I think that he kill her for her birthday money, because she told him no he couldn't have it so she was fighting back. So he killed her by accident.
He was making money w/Maddie’s videos 😡
@a_schmelts4308 her mother misplaced it, she looked harder and found it. No money missing.
Because he put it somewhere else and moved it back
She was more concerned about her birthday March 2nd.
RIGHT?! She is so self-involved to the point where it's child-like. 36 year old woman in tears over her "worst birthday ever" while her only child is GONE.
Stephan's father has been paying his son's way his whole life. Why? What does 'Dad' get out of paying his adult son's way? What does Dad get out of this arrangement? Why would Stephan's mother pay people to make her son's illegal or inappropriate activities 'disappear?' Stephan's mother (parents) knew of other children in her son's life prior to Madeline. Let's talk about that ...
Yes guys your right about his parents only child they were enablers no matter what he's done they help him cover it up. Put now that the truth is out now there throwing him under the bus to not take heat for there sick son there guilty for creating this guy by giving him everything and not teaching him responsibility and discipline he thought he was entitled to everything never grew up
Because they are both narcissists and enablers and created this monster
SS childhood fitness did interviews and spilt the beans on SS and his parents which is very telling
Yes. During their interview those questions were conveniently left out
She made her daughter live in a living room! She had no privacy. She was stripped of that. That’s what abusers and monsters do. She was in the center of that house exposed to everyone and everything! And that was done intentionally by her own mother.
It has to be from selling CSAM.
@@SydMountaineerFor sure a network. Many are probably on edge as we speak, when the investigators follow all the transactions of files, they'll find them. They probably have their hands full with the Madeleine case right now, but when that is settled, they will continue and trace it all.
Did he record the unaliving of poor sweet Maddie😢😢
There were other arrests for csam in the same community.
@@hauntsforhope yes and very nearby. It won't surprise me if this results in the exposure of a network of CSA.
Botox for Jenn, but no birthday gift for Maddie.
I bet Steven even kept her birthday money that she was so happy about. POS
AND MORE, SHE HAD ORDERED THINGS FROM AMAZON SAYING BIRTHDAY. IT WAS FOR HER, AND DID YOU SEE HER BUST OUT CRYING WHEN SHE REALIZED IT WAS MARCH 1ST AND THE NEXT DAY WAS HER BIRTHDAY. SHE REALLY CRIED AND SAID SOME BDAY!!!! WHAT ABOUT MS B'DAY ON FEB 22ND, NOTHING>>>>>>THE SORRY BEACH
Do you remember she said oh Maddie was so happy we sat there counting all her money?? Ahhh where.
@@myreasonforlife.9511rightt! Her voice was ecstatic about the birthday money...wonder if that was spent on Sterns road trips...ekz.
I believe Stephan’s mother gave him a necklace to give to Madeline he didn’t buy one for her out of his own money
She wants someone else to be responsible, not her son
I have to agree with you , Even though I believe Jenn had some kind of knowledge or sense what was going on if not everything , Deb sterns is definitely trying to play blame game to protect her son.
Actually if you watch the interview of the parents you will see how they are disgusted, basically disown and demonize him.
They disowned him but they are still sending stuffs to him…sure…
@@purtykatzwhich is so weird because they contributed to creating this monster.
@@purtykatzthey didn't disown him. They even called the jail worried because he hadn't called them in 2 weeks and they continue to send him money for his commissary. Poor baby needs his ramen noodles and candy bars
He probably just told Jenn he got the $ from his parents or lied about selling off some of his collectibles.
She is over medicated on psych drugs and, frankly, not very bright. I think Jenn SHOULD have known and I think she deliberately refused to think about it, but I believe her confession. She has no business being the guardian of ANYBODY, especially a vulnerable child, and probably could use some supervision, herself. Maddie had ZERO childhood. This is so horrible. It makes me sick for that little girl.
Can you imagine … take yourself back to age 13 … all of that confusion of adolescence … and then think about how it felt to be Maddie at 13 years old … having been raped, molested and tormented since the first or second grade!! Think about how she must have felt. Then, look at that sweet face of hers in her birthday dress, the dark circles under those wide, despairing eyes, cracking a slight smile. What an empty, horrible world she was forced to inhabit.
I am so, so sorry she never found anyone to help her.
Her hands are not clean and she’s a well documented liar
Plenty of hands aren’t clean in this case and cases like this
I think his parents are getting worried. He stopped calling and emailing them. They need to keep him happy, pay for his candy and pickles, so he doesn't speak on their part of this case. CS gave me the ick the first interview I saw. They both decide to do a interview with the worse UA-camer on this platform and then condemn the public for calling it like we see it.
😒 🤔 yeah, There was no meantion on good ole 'grampa' in relation to Maddie..just that she slept w/ pos SS mom when they stayed over.. you got me thinking bout what wasn't said!
They’re hands are very dirty and have been dirty since the gate
SS childhood friends did interviews and split the beans on SS and his parents
Big time narcissists, racists and enablers
Whoever is without sin throw the first stone! I pray none of you judges profess to be Christians?????
Yes it’s horrendous what those two did- but he is their son, but that doesn’t make the parents guilty by association!
If his parents were concerned about Stephan telling their role in the case they would not have let police search without a warrant, tell the police they question how well they really know Stephan, tell the police what a loser he is and they never say he's not capable of this. They're not trying very hard to keep him quiet to me. And last jail call dad pretty much told him he's not going to keep giving him money. So that doesn't sound like guilty associates. They're not concerned with keeping him happy. The parents guilt lies where everyone else around Maddie lies, they didn't report their suspicions. Ppl don't know that u don't need proof just suspicion to report abuse.
@void________ this man had his computer/hard drives within his parents home. He had unexplainable money, borrowed their vehicle, and stayed in their home rent free. I'll never believe that neither of them went snooping in his business. In the very least that would be make me suspicious of drug dealing or similar. The last call did sound like his dad was asking for answers to questions they knew better to ask. Doesn't seem like a ex cop trying protect their child (as they claim) it just makes me wonder.
Didn’t his parents say that they had to pay for the hotel as they had no money also That thing was stealing from them
Had money for botox though
Jenn says Chris came to pay for the room, Chris says he paid pet deposit they paid for their room...I've wondered if perhaps stephan lied to both and he paid for hotel but where did he get money??
@@traceymitchell6619 actually jenn said she canceled because she didn't have the $350 for the appointment, I think, I heard that
@@beccaedgar9556CS did say he paid JS back the $150 for the pets fee.
@@traceymitchell6619and veneers for Jenn Soto. Look at Maddie's teeth compared to Jenn's.
Makes me sick...
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Sounds like he spend the money on games and toys, vapes, probably drugs
And root candy...
@@anniesimone???
@@joeneil5485root beer candy
I'm in australia I've never heard of it
@@colleenwithers6793 never heard of what...?
Jen said they didn't have money, couldnt even go out to eat because ahe lived on SS. Stephan was the only one spemding money on toys hand over fist.
I just admire his parents. They questioned his behavior, told him he should in no way be sleeping with Maddie, now speaking out, honestly and not trying to defend the creep. Upstanding people!
I thought so too until I seen Jay is 4 Justice latest podcast.. daddy is definitely not innocent in his life🙄 like father like son, maybe?
They created this monster & feel guilty that SS was run over by a truck twice 👀💀😭
Maybe Mattie threatened him that she was going to reveal where he got his money…motive for murder?
Someone knew and didn't turn him in. They enabled too.
Listen to the SS childhood friends who spilt the beans on SS and his parents
Very telling
These parents hands are dirty dirty just like JS and SS ex roommate and ex girlfriend
In a text between Jen and SS she states "i can no longer sleep with Maddie, it's too risky". There is something to that imo. When questioned about it, she said she didn't remember why she said it. They didn't press her, and moved on, but why?
My guess is an STD. Explains the blood plasma tests and also why she stopped having ax with boyfriend and the sleeping with daughter.
The words you surrounded with quotation marks are in the same ballfield as the true quote, but the wording is not accurate, therefore the quote is wrong.
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140The blood draw was due to Jenn being on psyche meds. The tests are done to be sure patients are taking their medicine and that it is at theraputic level or higher and to make sure theevels are not too high. I take a psyche med that has to be checked by blood draw every so often so the psyche Dr knows I'm ok .
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140stds & overdose bcuz my guess it took higher dosages as Maddie grew
I don’t see him admitting anything or testifying. I personally don’t think he shared any of the money with JS and pretended he didn’t have any money. I don’t think he was injured that bad when he was a kid or they would have kept him overnight
Exactly. I don't think his "TBI" is bad at all...his mom even said he tested genius levels of IQ... which is difficult to believe but she said that was after the accident.
And if there was any serious injury, you're right. They would've kept him overnight.
Maybe he felt unprotected, uneasy, less carefree with his parents after he got hit by the vehicle- he was pretty little. His parents don’t seem very affectionate. And then the parents just want to explain it with an injury.
She was def benefiting from him... she didn't just let a loser guy live in her home with her daughter without any kickbacks, sorry
Yea seems like everyone has a "tbi" these days,it's bs
You mean he wasn’t even in the hospital overnight.
There's evidence, Vinnie. What about the video of Sterns moving Maddie's body from the front seat of the car to the trunk?
@@SydMountaineer It isn't the hotel's fault. Their "guests" probably do many things you wouldn't like. If that is your criteria, there isn't ANY hotel you would stay in. Good luck with that attitude.
From money he sold of Maddie’s photos😢
OMG beyond horrific.
Not just Maddie , if she’s including the pictures on the hard drive , those weren’t Maddie . Those were 3 other children . I want to know if He was in those puctures like he was with Maddie .
Who are those kids . Is he in the pictures ? Did he buy them ? From who ?
Or are they other peoples children that do not know or are they his own brothers kids ? Who and where are they now ? Alive or dead ?
I watch a lot of those videos where they catch online predators. Most of predators say they use that telegram app to buy and trade their disgusting material. So I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was using the app for the same thing.
How can..why does our congress allow this telegram crap when the Patriot act is still enforced?..MONEY!🤨😡
Because they’re in on it and profiting as well
I don't see signs of money. Old cars, too many people crammed into a condo, a kid who wears the same outfit half of the time, no vacations, no fine dining, no expensive clothes.
So the week Madi went missing, when Sterns was arrested for Abuse of Madeline. Another person was raided in St Cloud Florida. "Santa Cox" could they have been involved with selling Videos, pictures to same people?
That’s what I was thinking as well. I live in Florida.
There was a woman arrested in st cloud around the same time.
Idk. I feel like so much of that stuff is anonymous on the internet that they may not have known about each other at all.
my thoughts exactly
Yes....been saying this early on. The rings are in Florida too. Wondering if these rings connected to sex trafficking of Diddy. Big jump but all these cases overlap in time.
I would think SS was selling those photos of MS
That's why he went to the storage unit, he was selling CSAM through telegram!
He removed the hard drive.
That’s why he had to go to the storage unit. He was selling for a long time. What if Maddie was again out of the age were she could make him lots of money. He needed to start doing something more elaborate in order to keep his clients interested. Maybe whatever he was trying to do with Maddie event wrong and he accidentally killed her.
I believe this too. Especially with that big CP bust in St Cloud at the same time
Didnt a detective disclose to SS father that the hard drive was empty?
@@morgenmachen2400 yes they did.
@@isabellewheten3860it’s not CP anymore it’s referred to as CSAM
Jen should not have received immunity. There is no way this woman was so blind for so many years. It’s like Jen questioned nothing in her life. She put Maddie in danger, sent Maddie to sleep with her boyfriend?!!!
😳😡 Stephan Sterns is repulsive!!!😳😡
I think his mom is trying to throw suspicion away from them. They know more than what they're saying
This ☝🏾
Because they do
SE childhood friends did interviews and spilt the beans on SS and his parents plus Jen very telling interviews
Absolutely mind boggled Jenn Soto isn’t arrested
They aren't going to until they get him fried for sure and they are getting further evidence towards him, before
going after her! They want the information given to them with her free that will go way beyond both of them! She will get it!
@@sassyvice420 The DA would need a rock solid case. If they don't have that, they'd risk never being able to charge her. Its better that they wait until all their evidence is strong enough. Jenn isn't a risk to society, so its best that law enforcement takes the time to get EVERYTHING they can.
@@maxmanx1294 that’s fair! Ty
Mom of SS, SPILLING THE BEANS. WILLINGLY. 😮
His parents think that js is just as guilty so she should be in jail too not just ss.
She’s a narcissist and an enabler
She’s deflecting while projecting/confessing
Do the research on narcissistic parents and why they behalf the way they do especially towards their child as they see them as a reflection of themselves
Why were his parents knowing he had money but paying his rent for that room to JS/her dad? You know they had to have questioned his spending while sending rent.
The Stefan Stearns family is in question to me. Seemingly helpful and normal, their son just "picks up" pedophilic behavior and possibly M Soto is not his first victim. This doesn't happen in a vacuum. And it didn't escape the Stearns' attention.
SS childhood friends did interviews spilling the beans on SS and his parents
Very telling These
@@NF40375 where did you find these interviews?
Hi Vinnie, love your show,,, worst case I ever heard,, what I want to know is how these people find these sites..☘️😲☘️❤️🤮
The dark web. It’s just disturbing!
By using a tor web browser to . Easy as Google. And Telegram apps. Even on regular social media sites
Well you can just look at your husband or boyfriends phone and see what he is watching there, probably a lot of porn sites and disturbing things you dont know about
When did his parents notice he had money? If it was while Maddie was alive, why were they paying his rent? Did they not find it odd as he didn’t work?
and he was driving his Dad's car, he could of bought his own
As a mom and a grandparent, the instinctive response to this is to un alive him...... I don't understand Jen....... 😕 I know not to, just my response is to want to if that were to happen to my child or grandchild......
Yep. I feel the same way. Jens attitude is beyond abnormal. No emotion for the loss of her child. It makes me irrate.
The theme song is too heavy lol😂. Vinnie, so glad you are pressing this issue. You seem to be the only one following it through. WHERE WAS THE MONEY COMING FROM!?!?
C to the SAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would Jen Soto’s mother not allow Sterns in her house, ever? She needs to answer this.
So glad you mentioned Hidden True Crime, Lauren & Dr. John are amazing
I was thinking the parents are definitely trying to bring Jen into their sons guilt, but then I remember Jen had a $350 botox appointment...
Botox is used as well for migraines. Research that.
But Jenn canceled the appointment because she said she didn't want to spend the money. She got botox for headaches, not cosmetic reasons
No, if Jen got Botox for headaches, we would’ve heard all these stories about how she couldn’t do this because of migraines. That actually would’ve been a better cover story & lie to say she got migraines & couldn’t physically take the noise of other people. I’ve seen someone throw up because of the noise of walking & a door opening & closing. I’ve seen pics somewhere of Jen from a few years ago & she has a huge, mad-looking wrinkle in the middle of her forehead. She gets that huge brow wrinkle botoxed for vanity.
@@Stormstorm1 Botox for migraine treatment is covered by Medicare and Medicaid if she’s on Social Security Disability or SSI, if it’s deemed medically necessary by your doctor. You must have 15 migraines or more per month.
@@Stormstorm1How do you know she was getting them for migraines? Do you know her?
I don't think THEY were getting the money.....Stephan was the one getting the money. bc go back to when Jen said Where did he get the money to buy all this stuff and he said he stole it from his parents. I find his Mother is still taking up for her Son.
Except that Jen said she cancelled her Botox appointment because she didn’t want to pay 1500.00 . If she’s even considering spending 1500 on Botox when she has worked for 2 days , THEY. Are spending .
No way a poor person on disability makes an appointment to spend 1500 on Botox . And what did Maddie get for her birthday , nothing but dead from Jen . Possibly literally by Jen’s hands if her statement about woody Allen was a real Freudian slip .
where was the money coming from for the botox? She also said in her interview he contributed to groceries and stuff, so not living off her, not all the time anyway.
@@traceymitchell6619 that’s still living off of her stepdad who owned the house .
Neither of them had jobs . She had worked like 2 days .
His parents were strait forward he is a narcissist . Jen was too .
Maddie didn’t have a chance . But I kind of think maybe she was planning on living elsewhere . With her grandma or her dad possibly . She had aged out for Stefan I think .
I want to know about the kids in the other pictures .
The fact that there are 3 makes me think they’re his victims but it may be how he sells too ?
Jen had no job yet was able to afford $350 for Botox the week of her daughter's birthday. How? Of course, the day Maddie was unalived by SS, she suddenly cancelled it and claimed it was because she didn't want to spend the money. Convenient if she's had knowledge and/or was involved.
lol no she cancelled her botox appointment remember
And its also very interesting how her permanent family...her sisters. Her mom... Her dad. Have not spoken up to defend her....🤔🧐
What were they spending all this supposed money on? They lived in an apartment with multiple roommates. Jenn couldn’t go to the birthday party because she had to work. He was using his dad’s car. If there was so much money, none of this makes sense.
They were addicted to prescription pills. Jen stayed high out of her mind nodding out. Her brain is fried
Jenn was in training. Which means she just started this job. Where was she working b4 that and when did that job end? Jenn stated that during covid they were "all" living off her disability. Which could not have been enough to support herself Maddie & the leech SS. Jenns dad only charged her $450 rent per month. I don't see how she could even afford that plus extras per month: food, car, gas, clothing, toiletries, insurance for car.....
Jenn says she canceled an appt for a $350 botox treatment that same day Maddie went missing- because she changed her mind . Who in their right mind would even look into that expensive procedure and book an appt ~ if they didn't have the extra $$ to cover it? I feel like jenn canceled that appt after Maddie was killed because she knew there would be an investigation into all their personal stuff
Ss spent money on expensive toys. Not sure about js. But they had to pretend to be poor because they didn't work. Then people would ask and they'd have to answer, oh well selling csam is easy and very lucrative, you should give it a try.
@@normac9931SS’s dad said he’d been paying Jenn’s dad $600/mo rent for him to live in that condo. Plus the roommates are paying rent. Sounds like she won’t be paying a dime herself.
Drugs
I’ve been thinking the whole time that he was probably selling the pictures. If so then was Jenn getting a cut??? Just asking
Jen knew what was going on. She's such a piece of garbage sending that precious child up with a gross monster
That could be why she made the statement that she ‘couldn’t risk it anymore’ maybe she has a telegram account too or she was taking/selling pics. She knew something was going on & making the Woody Allen comment gave her away. She offered that info she wasn’t asked!
@@screamingdaisiesI Agree!!
That's what I think the extent of Jen was. She knew Stephan was selling pictures of Maddie being abused. She maybe thought Maddie was unconscious for the abuse and didn't see anything wrong with it 🙄
me too.
31:08 Vinnie, the investigators have already disclosed there were many children victims in these photos. One of the hard drives found had nothing but other children victims. But that it would be impossible to ID all of them.
Osceola and Orange counties in Florida
It's possible to do a lot more then the powers that be care to...why CP touches sooo far & wide...it's a sickening plague on almost every small community now. SA go unpunished /& get off charges very lightly
The mother of Sterns is a liar for her loser son. Sterns' parents don't like Jenn Soto and initially were accusing HER not their son. See the letter the mother wrote to Stephan in jail. Jenn may not have been spending the money with him but she did know about the SA.
free the menendez brothers….
absolutely love your show vinnie 🎉😊🎉
I would use discretion when listening to Sterns’s mother trying to implicate Jen. The parents really want Jen to be responsible for their sons atrocious behavior. Not completely sure Jen wasn’t at least aware, but she’s not currently charged and I think the parents want her to be.