I am genuinely surprised at the amount of support he still gets. He ADMITTED what he did and still gets praised. We know he doesn't learn from his mistakes.
Unfortunately kids and teenagers struggle to grasp how serious it is for adults to groom or make sexual advances towards them or their peers, which in turn leads to continued support for people like James.
I find it funny how the media and people hate groomers, perverts, scammers, etc, but they will still support them if their fave is any of that💀 We won’t get rid of those bitches if we still buy their products or watch their videos smh
James Charles really missed his opportunity. The market is over saturated. I can't support someone who grooms minors/fans that's what he should be working on.
I'm always shocked to hear James still has fans. I thought he would have taken the hint and gone away by now but I guess still having fans depite everything he has done gives him the impression he hasn't done anything wrong. This is why parents should be aware of what their kids are doing and who they are following online. If I knew my kid was a 'fan' of a known child groomer, I'd revoke their internet access and explain to them why its not okay to support people like james charles.
Honestly, to me that really just screams that he isn’t sorry, or as disappointed in himself as he’s expressed. Imagine being caught committing a crime like that and ADMITTING IT, then continuing to have an internet career as if nothing happened. It’s sick that people still support him. The grooming stuff happened SEVERAL times and repeated his “mistake” even after apologizing. He shouldn’t be on the internet, he doesn’t deserve the support or benefits and is a dangerous person.
Personally, I don’t think that people outside of his fan base will buy it. If it goes well great, but people need to know that by buying his products, he will never pay for what he did last year and will in a sense be “forgiven”
@@happyaccident4901 you'll be shocked at how many people don't really care about all of these things. If they find something that's good, they'll buy it
no it's literally so weird when these influencers are exposed as pedos and groomers but somehow their half assed apology makes up for it? also how are these people not in jail
@@katsumirey1814 I was really tempted, but then I thought to myself "what's more important, getting a bit more attention towards my makeup or not supporting someone who has prayed on minors". Then it was really easy lol. I wish you the best of luck with your makeup venture!
100000% right there with you. Only a few years in and a LE now but the opportunity would be incredible. However, I agree- it’s absolutely not worth it to support someone who preyed on minors 🤢
whoever is doing his marketing is a genius. not only is he making it seem like he's actually taking his fan's opinions, but he's recruiting younger, newer makeup influencers who are hungry enough for the exposure he can give to promote his brand. then the smaller influencer's fans will buy it to support them, which obviously he profits from. he'll probably do a smaller launch which will sell out, giving him the illusion of being a hit product, allowing him to make rereleases and new products. being linked to someone with such a huge following is absolutely enough for people to put aside his grooming and other scandals.
My guess for the product is water activated liners. I am fairly new to make-up and when he said it's intimidating and not consumer-friendly, thats the first thing i thought of.
The fact that this is such an amazing thing for a big creator to do is awesome! But unfortunately it's being hosted by a groomer. Honestly nobody should support him. Even with this opportunity
this is exactly what cassey ho (Blogilates) does with her brand. her comments are FLOODED with "omg she really cares about our feedback" for every single product she launches and they never catch on that it's just marketing
even if it is marketing, she does listen and adjusts the clothing by listening to the consumer. which makes good business since she knows what to do and what not to do with direct feedback
@@blu3y28 lol no shade but you're showing exactly why people buy into it. ultimately she chooses which feedback to apply, and then she makes a big production of how she listened to suggestions. it probably does improve her products! but her presentation of her methods is all marketing. it's clearly effective marketing if many people identify with her and defend her because of it!
It's actually very smart to use other people's money and not put too much of your own in the mix. I call BS on "why we want everyone to audition!" It is FREE MARKETING for him. Duh!
The way James has been involving the audience with his brand kind of reminds me of what Shane and Jeffree did for the Conspiracy palette. People felt more attached to it bc they got to see the journey, the behind-the-scenes. It made them a part of the process, although not as hands-on with James’ brand
I wonder how much of it is a desperate attempt to get young fans on their side to ignore the allegations and past bad behaviour. A lot of people accused Shane of doing that to hide his racist and sexist jokes in the past. I can't help but think it's the same here.
I appreaciate that you focused on the marketing behind it. I have studied Business Administration and Marketing and I find really interesting how new brands (that are about to launch) are introduced to their audience through social media nowadays. I can assure you that James is using the exact marketing trick you mentioned. As a resault his audience is already interested in (or in some cases impatient) trying out a product they haven't even see yet. Basically James is "advertising" his products without being out yet! Another trick is the contest which in order to participate, you have to use the hashtag. This can lead to free marketing bc we all know the power a trending hashtag holds. All these are actually neuromarketing techniques which are used in order to discover consumers' subconscious preferences. The real question though is who is going to support his brand after all that mess?
From the way he's structuring this launch by asking people of all skill levels to participate, and personally flying out 10 people, and listening to fan input when making the palette....he seems genuinely invested in making a good brand as opposed to a cash grab. If it ends up being good quality? I won't know how to feel, because James Charles is a groomer/creep, yet he'll get support (not from me) because he genuinely cares about makeup! But look at how people supported Jeffree when he got involved with lashgate and came back: so many people forgot about what he's done.
I could feel myself becoming excited for his brand when he talked about how there’s really nothing wrong with being not a being a pro mua, but then I remembered that nothing’s been done about what happened between him and those minors he was talking online. I feel iffy about supporting him because of this. Unless legal charges are brought against him and it gets sorted out in court, I don’t feel comfortable supporting him. But I doubt charges will come. Those were minors he was talking to and what are they gonna do? Admit to their parents what they’ve been doing online? Just my two cents.
I don't know who in the world is still watching or supporting James anymore, but I have my money on colored liquid eye liner. Also, not James exploiting small creators and MUAs for his own personal gain *gasp*
@@suan333 of course he is. He may have to pay for plane tickets and accommodations, but he DOESN'T have to pay REAL models or LICENSED & PROFESSIONAL MUA's to make up said models for the campaign. Also by sending his PR to "select" individuals he chooses from this "hashtag" group is already setting it up that the only "influencers" getting the PR will be his fans, and thus more biased towards recommending his products.
How he keeps including the public is smart, since he was so late to the game the only way to know what the public would actually buy from him is by asking their input. Honestly he should be putting some of these people on payroll bc they're really helping him out
It's quite fresh to see that people is actually involved in a whole process like James is doing But idk, I only wanna wait and see what he does, a bit open minded yet not supporting him
I hate that he's such a proven creep because so many of the things he says in this is so positive. Like I love a big influencer saying that makeup is for everyone and it's ok to not be perfect and beautiful can mean different things for different people- all that is so great and makes me want to get behind a message like that. But I can't forget all the weird things he's done over DM's and how sketchy and manipulative he's been, and it makes me wonder if I can even trust what he's saying now or if he's just saying what people want to hear. Whether it's truthful or not, I just can't ever support him after everything that's happened.
If the winners of his "contest" are not based on skills, what are the criterias of selection?! their looks? Is he looking for models /ambassador /stans? This individual is SO suspicious, I can't, I CAN'T!
Seriously. The guy who can’t stop hitting on his underage fans and manipulating his power dynamic with age appropriate fans s having them send him videos to fly them out to him. That’s so sketch!
i think its kinda hard to say how his launch will go without seeing the product first. however i think the marketing strategy is really good and while im still not his fan nor shall be for hot minutes to come. i think it can be a great way for the unaware on his history to embrace themselves and try something new, hoping there is a net positive for the people from it all.
Seeing ppl from my own community disappointed me I would never associate myself w/ someone who had his name tainted I had thought abt it but I’m not going to pretend I like him just to be part of some campaign atp there’s so many makeup brands that I don’t think his will be any different than ones we already have I’m glad to see ppl still holding him accountable
honestly the marketing campaign is fing amazing. he's getting people to feel involved AND do the marketing themselves by sharing the hashtag. of course no one should fall for it, because the man is a horrible person, but I can totally see how it can get people excited for the launch
But you have to admit though, drama channels are contributing to his brand's success (if he ever made it work) by giving him all this attention every single week. I have forgotten James. And all the tea channels keep on reminding me of him. I know every steps of his action and brand launches etc in detail. I probably know more about him that an influencer I like. If you truly think what James this is completely unacceptable, the best thing you could do is ignore his existence. Because that is what would kill his reputation and brand the most.
Imagine being so infamous for grooming that you need your fans to do your marketing since no one will touch you anymore. And it’s all labeled like it’s a great opportunity so you won’t notice when they steal your stuff.
There is literally nothing James could do marketing wise that would make me ever consider purchasing a product from him. Messaging multiple underage fans is not some drama that can just be considered over. It is a literal crime. I think too much time has passed where people are starting to forget and turning a blind eye to his past behaviour. Unfortunately I feel like he'll have more than enough people thag will buy from his brand because they probably weren't into the beauty community or that involved when all of this stuff with James happened.
did he mention an age restriction on entering his contest? if they can’t have a plus one then it’s not really safe to send/fly a minor to be in this campaign in LA for days by themselves.
So.... what about the age of the people putting in their admissions??? Did I hear wrong, or did he never specify 18+, because I feel like thats gonna come back to bite him in the ass...
Didn’t Jeffrey Star and Shane Dawson’s video (about making the controversy pallet) indicate it takes a while in production to make the pallets? If he is still tweaking the formula based on customer feedback, when will this actually launch? Next year? 🤷🏼♀️ ….not that JS and SD are the end all be all of makeup but the documentary seemed to have legitimate information….
He liked minors bro 🤢🤢🤢 I just know damn well either they settled outta court not publicly, or nobody ever tried to charge him. Seducing minors over a phone or “electronically”(?) is a literal charge. Or something along those lines. This shit makes no sense to me
I can almost guarantee you that 65% of people applying for the campaign don’t like him. They’re applying with the idea of “free trip to la to meet someone famous and have my face plastered on a campaign that will no doubt garner the attention of hundreds of thousands of people.” Money and clout talks.
Listen, as a makeup artist, if other muas are applying it doesn’t necessarily mean they support him, working with JC can be huge for a small creator, I don’t think all the people applying actually really care about him as a person but may use this as an opportunity for exposure. Just my two cents 💁🏻♀️
What makeup artist wants to gain exposure from a predator? Why would anyone look at someone a predator promoted and want to engage with them at all? Personally, I wouldn't give any benefit of doubt to someone choosing to work with him, especially someone aligning themselves with a predator just for clout/exposure.
What utter bullshit. Them choosing to enable a predator for their own clout is still them enabling a predator. If anything, it makes it WORSE. Who is narcissistic enough to think that their on desire for clout is more important than Justice for victims of pedophilia? Anyone entering this deserves all the hate coming to them and more
If tiktok didn’t blow up when it did James would be finished, he’s moved most of his content for for a reason. A lot of his tiktok fans don’t know, tiktok has a younger audience so they weren’t really on UA-cam a year or two ago watching James when he admitted being a groomer. I highly doubt the brand is as independent as he’s making out too. People have a choice were to spend their cash, if you spend it James you’re helping a groomer have a wider reach of people.
I love blush so I was really interested in the blush palette that he showed , (not to buy it. It just looked really interesting) because it looks like he’s probably gonna do a big pallet of blushes(at least that’s what I would assume) but then I remembered that crayon case has an amazing blush palette that has three times the amount of blush in it and now I’m working towards getting that just to remind you that at the end of the day most make up isn’t that different and you can find some thing just as interesting without supporting people that you don’t want to support
as someone who is working to become a professional MUA, I would kill for an opportunity like this to jumpstart my career. But I just can't support James. I'm glad it seems like he really cares about makeup and this line, but we need to care about the victims too :/
There is a reason why he doesn’t want his name on the brand. The normal consumer wouldn’t know and purchase his products if they do well and end up supporting him in turn
i can’t get over that he groomed kids. he acts like it didn’t happen and everyone let’s him get away with it. disgusting. he’s talented but most people have talent.
James has done something risky but also genius. He knows his customers will be people who don't know about his drama. Which is mostly people from abroad. Mostly non U.S. Americans. Mostly on the poor spectrum. An affordable brand that can reach them to their countries, especially worldwide will help him a lot. An online store would benefit him financially. Tik tok viewers who don't search up "drama" ir influencers articles, who won't know about James Charles accusations will be likely to buy from an online store affordable makeup that fits their taste. Him making people showcase their taste, their skill and tag him is genius for a start. He know who he will appeal to. Worldwide young tiktok Gen z. He seems inclusive and affordable and he can gain a big customer base. He is smart. He might be a disgusting person, but the only sure thing is he's smart..
Although i think its kindof disgusting the amount of support he still has after everything, I dont think this launch is going to take over tiltok or youtube or anything. I just don't see it happening, if it wasn't for me watching tea videos, I wouldn't even know he's coming out with a brand because I have him blocked and even on my other accounts he never shows up on my fyp. His fans will for sure buy stuff, and i dont think it will fail, but I don't think it will be this big, successful, inspiring launch that he's gassing it up to be. At the end of the day, he's burnt too many bridges to do anything like what the Conspiracy pallet dod when it took over, and his morphie pallet.
So sketchy that he has no official rules of entry for this contest and that people can’t bring a plus one. If he can’t properly plan a contest I don’t trust him to plan all the logistics like book flights and hotels, provide transportation and food
Oh god I can't believe I'm saying this but....this has actually made me kinda like him. I'm actually hoping this works out for him, its nice to see him doing all this himself, no investors, involving his fans, asking for all ages and all different types of people, and levels of artisty. I'm impressed 👌🏽
Even without the unacceptable stuff he was doing I wouldn't buy it. I'm not into influencer stuff. Most of the time it ends up not actually being affordable
He could have the best, cheapest product known to man and I still wouldn't support him. He ADMITTED to talking to underage boys. Some of whom literally had their ages in their bios or recent bday pics.
i love the marketing strategy i just wish it wasn't james charles who thought of it i won't be purchasing any of his products i just love the idea of making the makeup formula and trying it with all different types of fans i really hope other brands do that bc it's a really smart idea it just unfortunately popped into the wrong head
I think it's going to be very successful. I'm not the biggest fan of James and stopped watching beauty influencers altogether when the drama went down with Tati/Jeffree/Shane. However, I'm all for positivity, and there's nothing negative about his brand launch at all. Also, I hate cancel culture. Watching someone grow is a beautiful thing, and a lot of what's posted on the internet isn't real to begin with.
He is an admitted child predator. It isn’t cancel culture to call people out for literal crimes. Please tell me that you see what’s negative in a predator sweeping their crimes under the rug
honestly, the 10 people thing is so genius because it makes people want to buy it more, acts as free advertising, and gets people who would have ignored it or may not like him to participate for the chance to get the fame and attention. as a business ? excellent ideas, wonderful, incredible. this is going to be a strong launch especially with people starting to get more into makeup again because it's james ? i will only be watching people's reviews and videos of his stuff, won't be giving my money to it.
The fact that an influencer is using the people that got them to where they are is a pretty good marketing strategy. I mean I personally like it when MUA send PR to the people who will ACTUALLY use the products. Pity that this campaign is coming from Miss Charles though 😒
Why the hell is this man allowed on the internet and continuing to get any amount of support after what he’s done? He makes me sick. He doesn’t deserve a penny, I don’t care how much work he claims to have put into this brand.
His campaign almost got me and almost made me wanna make a video myself because I love makeup and this would be amazing, but then I remembered who he was
I don't think it's fair that we give celebrities a pass on poor behavior, grooming, etc. I don't usually like to pay any attention with his face in any video but I like supporting your channel. I don't wish l on him. I'm just wish more people would put their money into better companies that are projecting and supporting other better images
I think getting the audience involved is indeed a good marketing strategy but after everything he's done it's gonna be hard for regular consumers to buy his products
I ❤️ James Charles. He's the best thing to happen in the universe ✨️. I won't be buying his blush pallette because I use eyeshadow as blush (that's literally what blush is) but if comes out with something else and I like it then yeah I might
His real reasons for asking for feedback and holding this contest?: Free advertising, free focus groups, and free press. He’s literally getting his customers to tell him exactly how to sell his product to them.
Unfortunately the same people who were happy to lap up the clout from holding James accountable are also more than happy to lap up the exposure from his campaign… unethical business choices are never free yall. Invest in your integrity.
To be fair, I'd only Audition for the Free makeup chance/Clout. Working with a "celebrity" influencer, can get your name out there. Bad person or not, I don't personally like James nor support him, but I'd use him for a jump start to fame. why not.
“I don’t personally like James nor support him, but I’ll enable his child abuse for clout.” That’s literally what you said. People like this need to be locked up for the good of the rest of society
@@scipiodriver4076 Yet, there is proof of what he has done... But he isn't locked up... So clearly he has enough money, publicity, and connections, to prevent that. And I'd like that power too. I'd never do that nasty shit, but having power in a world full of powerless is kind of the way to survive nowadays. Working a 9-5, miserable hours at a miserable job. Id rather just colab with a pedo and get my name out there, good rep or bad, gives you money regardless.
@@shadowwolf2921 seriously there has got to be something mentally wrong with you. No normal person is this desperate to rationalize them enabling pedophilia. Go see a fucking therapist before it’s too late
@@scipiodriver4076 Calm down weirdo, people like him in prison wouldn't survive anyway, dude would be dead or hurt 10 seconds into prison. This was all hypothetical, I'm not doing anything I've said. But the fact you care a stranger you don't know over the internet gets you this tilted, is way more sad then my hypothetical situation I've formed to show a controversial side to why he has so many "supporters" & my twist on it, for his little campaign here. 😂 I think you need the therapist if you care that much.
The moment people will want to call him out by something they’ll remember that these choices were made by themselves and what if he’s asking for these things and it will end up way different from what his fans said that they like?
I am genuinely surprised at the amount of support he still gets. He ADMITTED what he did and still gets praised. We know he doesn't learn from his mistakes.
Unfortunately kids and teenagers struggle to grasp how serious it is for adults to groom or make sexual advances towards them or their peers, which in turn leads to continued support for people like James.
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I find it funny how the media and people hate groomers, perverts, scammers, etc, but they will still support them if their fave is any of that💀
We won’t get rid of those bitches if we still buy their products or watch their videos smh
@@corbinbrier0 but as you can see it’s many adults that are his fans tho, so it’s just ignorant people
because that guy lied to him about his age. Poor james
*whips out squirt bottle* STOP CROSSING BOUNDARIES WITH FANS AND EXPLOITING THEM CHARLES
THIS 😭
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he really isn’t.
🙌🏻 this!!!!
@@arat5170 he has though. In one of his apologies/responses he literally said he was “using his comment section like a dating app.”
James Charles really missed his opportunity. The market is over saturated. I can't support someone who grooms minors/fans that's what he should be working on.
What do you think he should do then?
@@eloisel7449 leave the internet where he could and will possibly find a next victim
There are so many makeup (beauty) lines already. IMO they are all starting to look the same.
I agree that theres so many make up brands and it isn't necessary to create a new one but if its really his dream to own one then why not
@@eloisel7449 get a real job lmfao idk
I'm always shocked to hear James still has fans. I thought he would have taken the hint and gone away by now but I guess still having fans depite everything he has done gives him the impression he hasn't done anything wrong. This is why parents should be aware of what their kids are doing and who they are following online. If I knew my kid was a 'fan' of a known child groomer, I'd revoke their internet access and explain to them why its not okay to support people like james charles.
Honestly, to me that really just screams that he isn’t sorry, or as disappointed in himself as he’s expressed. Imagine being caught committing a crime like that and ADMITTING IT, then continuing to have an internet career as if nothing happened. It’s sick that people still support him. The grooming stuff happened SEVERAL times and repeated his “mistake” even after apologizing. He shouldn’t be on the internet, he doesn’t deserve the support or benefits and is a dangerous person.
Personally, I don’t think that people outside of his fan base will buy it. If it goes well great, but people need to know that by buying his products, he will never pay for what he did last year and will in a sense be “forgiven”
If people are still buying from JS, I'm sure people will still buy from this guy:/ which is really sad
@@happyaccident4901 honestly crazy people still support him. Hopefully his almost 1 million views a video can still support this lifestyle
@@happyaccident4901 you'll be shocked at how many people don't really care about all of these things. If they find something that's good, they'll buy it
I’m not updated, what did he do?
Nah, they will just like they forgive Jeffry
No kind of marketing strategies would ever make me support a groomer. I don't know how he still has a career, it's honestly sad.
no it's literally so weird when these influencers are exposed as pedos and groomers but somehow their half assed apology makes up for it? also how are these people not in jail
rich white male immunity
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I still can't forget how he admitted to it and that he was "desperate". Then did it like 6 more times
@@Ashbrash1998 he ain't hiding it which is concerning to say the least.
i’m sorry but literally WHO is trusting james charles yet? who’s watching him and could buy his cosmetics??
Children, which is worrying given his past 💩
He’s a product of capitalistic vanity and I want NOTHING to do with it or “influencers” like him
Underage
This is America 🤡 we say we care but in reality we don’t and just go on as if it didn’t happen
Minors, which I'm not surprised but really concerned ngl
It's sad because I've been doing makeup for 15 years and would do anything for this opportunity, but I can't support someone like James.
Honestly I'm in the same place as you. I've got only 6 years under my belt tho, but I'd love to audition. The thing is - it's James 🤢
@@katsumirey1814 I was really tempted, but then I thought to myself "what's more important, getting a bit more attention towards my makeup or not supporting someone who has prayed on minors". Then it was really easy lol. I wish you the best of luck with your makeup venture!
100000% right there with you. Only a few years in and a LE now but the opportunity would be incredible. However, I agree- it’s absolutely not worth it to support someone who preyed on minors 🤢
Ngl i would do this just so I could sabotage the campaign and waste his money travelling me there and for my hotel😂😂
would be kind of iconic to use for opportunity
If this wasn’t HIM I would loveeee this. I wish someone more trustworthy would do this kind of campaign 💔
whoever is doing his marketing is a genius. not only is he making it seem like he's actually taking his fan's opinions, but he's recruiting younger, newer makeup influencers who are hungry enough for the exposure he can give to promote his brand. then the smaller influencer's fans will buy it to support them, which obviously he profits from. he'll probably do a smaller launch which will sell out, giving him the illusion of being a hit product, allowing him to make rereleases and new products. being linked to someone with such a huge following is absolutely enough for people to put aside his grooming and other scandals.
Exactly! Scandals aside, he is a smart businessman.
It's such a smart marketing idea. I wish more makeup companies were customer-centric
My guess for the product is water activated liners. I am fairly new to make-up and when he said it's intimidating and not consumer-friendly, thats the first thing i thought of.
Me too!!
I was personally thinking color correctors, since I know non-make up enthusiast would find it confusing.
Yeah or something like a mixing medium, so you can use one colour as blush, lip colour or eyeshadow.
that’s a really good guess i do think that’s quite likely
this!! i just commented saying something similar but i really think itll b eyeliners
I was gonna make a joke about James's blush looking like kids makeup... but ig that's his target audience so 👍
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oh that’s not-
See what u did there..😏🤣🤣
Lmfaooo you didn't 💀
The fact that this is such an amazing thing for a big creator to do is awesome! But unfortunately it's being hosted by a groomer. Honestly nobody should support him. Even with this opportunity
James needs to be in prison, not in a makeup lab lmao
this is exactly what cassey ho (Blogilates) does with her brand. her comments are FLOODED with "omg she really cares about our feedback" for every single product she launches and they never catch on that it's just marketing
even if it is marketing, she does listen and adjusts the clothing by listening to the consumer. which makes good business since she knows what to do and what not to do with direct feedback
@@blu3y28 facts.
@@blu3y28 lol no shade but you're showing exactly why people buy into it. ultimately she chooses which feedback to apply, and then she makes a big production of how she listened to suggestions. it probably does improve her products! but her presentation of her methods is all marketing. it's clearly effective marketing if many people identify with her and defend her because of it!
It's actually very smart to use other people's money and not put too much of your own in the mix. I call BS on "why we want everyone to audition!" It is FREE MARKETING for him. Duh!
Of course
The way James has been involving the audience with his brand kind of reminds me of what Shane and Jeffree did for the Conspiracy palette. People felt more attached to it bc they got to see the journey, the behind-the-scenes. It made them a part of the process, although not as hands-on with James’ brand
I wonder how much of it is a desperate attempt to get young fans on their side to ignore the allegations and past bad behaviour. A lot of people accused Shane of doing that to hide his racist and sexist jokes in the past. I can't help but think it's the same here.
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I love how hard he goes on Tik tok because he assume there no one knows he's a groomer.
I appreaciate that you focused on the marketing behind it. I have studied Business Administration and Marketing and I find really interesting how new brands (that are about to launch) are introduced to their audience through social media nowadays. I can assure you that James is using the exact marketing trick you mentioned. As a resault his audience is already interested in (or in some cases impatient) trying out a product they haven't even see yet. Basically James is "advertising" his products without being out yet! Another trick is the contest which in order to participate, you have to use the hashtag. This can lead to free marketing bc we all know the power a trending hashtag holds. All these are actually neuromarketing techniques which are used in order to discover consumers' subconscious preferences. The real question though is who is going to support his brand after all that mess?
Maybe im not a fan of James but his marketing with the brand is really good, kinda living
it’s honestly a concerning marketing strategy, considering his predatory mindset
This is going to be a interesting outcome. Will it be like Sister Apparel again…?
From the way he's structuring this launch by asking people of all skill levels to participate, and personally flying out 10 people, and listening to fan input when making the palette....he seems genuinely invested in making a good brand as opposed to a cash grab. If it ends up being good quality? I won't know how to feel, because James Charles is a groomer/creep, yet he'll get support (not from me) because he genuinely cares about makeup! But look at how people supported Jeffree when he got involved with lashgate and came back: so many people forgot about what he's done.
I could feel myself becoming excited for his brand when he talked about how there’s really nothing wrong with being not a being a pro mua, but then I remembered that nothing’s been done about what happened between him and those minors he was talking online. I feel iffy about supporting him because of this. Unless legal charges are brought against him and it gets sorted out in court, I don’t feel comfortable supporting him. But I doubt charges will come. Those were minors he was talking to and what are they gonna do? Admit to their parents what they’ve been doing online? Just my two cents.
Your videos are literally the highlight of my day
Groomers should not be put on pedestals. What a creep
I don't know who in the world is still watching or supporting James anymore, but I have my money on colored liquid eye liner. Also, not James exploiting small creators and MUAs for his own personal gain *gasp*
I bet he's paying them with "eXpOuSurE"
@@suan333 of course he is. He may have to pay for plane tickets and accommodations, but he DOESN'T have to pay REAL models or LICENSED & PROFESSIONAL MUA's to make up said models for the campaign. Also by sending his PR to "select" individuals he chooses from this "hashtag" group is already setting it up that the only "influencers" getting the PR will be his fans, and thus more biased towards recommending his products.
@@victoriadiesattheend.8478 That's a really great point about the PR.
How he keeps including the public is smart, since he was so late to the game the only way to know what the public would actually buy from him is by asking their input. Honestly he should be putting some of these people on payroll bc they're really helping him out
3:41 realllllly did him dirty with that pic💀😂
It's quite fresh to see that people is actually involved in a whole process like James is doing
But idk, I only wanna wait and see what he does, a bit open minded yet not supporting him
I agree - I'm not going to support him but I still recognize that he seems to be much more involved
so they cant bring a plus 1? what if they're underage. That screams weird
I hate that he's such a proven creep because so many of the things he says in this is so positive. Like I love a big influencer saying that makeup is for everyone and it's ok to not be perfect and beautiful can mean different things for different people- all that is so great and makes me want to get behind a message like that. But I can't forget all the weird things he's done over DM's and how sketchy and manipulative he's been, and it makes me wonder if I can even trust what he's saying now or if he's just saying what people want to hear. Whether it's truthful or not, I just can't ever support him after everything that's happened.
His brand should be called "Can I see some ID?"
Love a good morning Tea Spill ❤
Minors will be in danger.
If the winners of his "contest" are not based on skills, what are the criterias of selection?! their looks? Is he looking for models /ambassador /stans? This individual is SO suspicious, I can't, I CAN'T!
Seriously. The guy who can’t stop hitting on his underage fans and manipulating his power dynamic with age appropriate fans s having them send him videos to fly them out to him. That’s so sketch!
i think its kinda hard to say how his launch will go without seeing the product first. however i think the marketing strategy is really good and while im still not his fan nor shall be for hot minutes to come. i think it can be a great way for the unaware on his history to embrace themselves and try something new, hoping there is a net positive for the people from it all.
Seeing ppl from my own community disappointed me I would never associate myself w/ someone who had his name tainted I had thought abt it but I’m not going to pretend I like him just to be part of some campaign atp there’s so many makeup brands that I don’t think his will be any different than ones we already have I’m glad to see ppl still holding him accountable
I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near him tbh
honestly the marketing campaign is fing amazing. he's getting people to feel involved AND do the marketing themselves by sharing the hashtag. of course no one should fall for it, because the man is a horrible person, but I can totally see how it can get people excited for the launch
No, people on tiktok are more ignorant then those on youtube about his past. Of course he will be posting on tiktok about it instead of youtube
But you have to admit though, drama channels are contributing to his brand's success (if he ever made it work) by giving him all this attention every single week. I have forgotten James. And all the tea channels keep on reminding me of him. I know every steps of his action and brand launches etc in detail. I probably know more about him that an influencer I like. If you truly think what James this is completely unacceptable, the best thing you could do is ignore his existence. Because that is what would kill his reputation and brand the most.
His make up looks like a mask. I don't think it would look good seeing him in real life
Agree
does the tiktok community know about his penchant for young boys? 😬
Imagine being so infamous for grooming that you need your fans to do your marketing since no one will touch you anymore. And it’s all labeled like it’s a great opportunity so you won’t notice when they steal your stuff.
The makeup brand Nobody wanted😦
Je n'attends rien de lui mais je suis quand même déçue 😬
There is literally nothing James could do marketing wise that would make me ever consider purchasing a product from him. Messaging multiple underage fans is not some drama that can just be considered over. It is a literal crime. I think too much time has passed where people are starting to forget and turning a blind eye to his past behaviour. Unfortunately I feel like he'll have more than enough people thag will buy from his brand because they probably weren't into the beauty community or that involved when all of this stuff with James happened.
Bro people are still supporting this openly admitted p-word?!
did he mention an age restriction on entering his contest? if they can’t have a plus one then it’s not really safe to send/fly a minor to be in this campaign in LA for days by themselves.
I just can’t with people still supporting him! Yet they criticize him and still watch his videos and even will buy his products!
So.... what about the age of the people putting in their admissions??? Did I hear wrong, or did he never specify 18+, because I feel like thats gonna come back to bite him in the ass...
Didn’t Jeffrey Star and Shane Dawson’s video (about making the controversy pallet) indicate it takes a while in production to make the pallets? If he is still tweaking the formula based on customer feedback, when will this actually launch? Next year? 🤷🏼♀️ ….not that JS and SD are the end all be all of makeup but the documentary seemed to have legitimate information….
He liked minors bro 🤢🤢🤢 I just know damn well either they settled outta court not publicly, or nobody ever tried to charge him. Seducing minors over a phone or “electronically”(?) is a literal charge. Or something along those lines. This shit makes no sense to me
How does he still have a career?
I hope this groomer leaves his younger fans out of this campaign. I feel like it would be creepy. He shouldn’t have a career anyway
I can almost guarantee you that 65% of people applying for the campaign don’t like him. They’re applying with the idea of “free trip to la to meet someone famous and have my face plastered on a campaign that will no doubt garner the attention of hundreds of thousands of people.”
Money and clout talks.
Parents y’all need to start blocking these people on your kids account, they’re so good at manipulating younger audiences to want their products too.
Listen, as a makeup artist, if other muas are applying it doesn’t necessarily mean they support him, working with JC can be huge for a small creator, I don’t think all the people applying actually really care about him as a person but may use this as an opportunity for exposure. Just my two cents 💁🏻♀️
What makeup artist wants to gain exposure from a predator? Why would anyone look at someone a predator promoted and want to engage with them at all? Personally, I wouldn't give any benefit of doubt to someone choosing to work with him, especially someone aligning themselves with a predator just for clout/exposure.
What utter bullshit. Them choosing to enable a predator for their own clout is still them enabling a predator. If anything, it makes it WORSE. Who is narcissistic enough to think that their on desire for clout is more important than Justice for victims of pedophilia? Anyone entering this deserves all the hate coming to them and more
If tiktok didn’t blow up when it did James would be finished, he’s moved most of his content for for a reason. A lot of his tiktok fans don’t know, tiktok has a younger audience so they weren’t really on UA-cam a year or two ago watching James when he admitted being a groomer. I highly doubt the brand is as independent as he’s making out too. People have a choice were to spend their cash, if you spend it James you’re helping a groomer have a wider reach of people.
I love blush so I was really interested in the blush palette that he showed , (not to buy it. It just looked really interesting) because it looks like he’s probably gonna do a big pallet of blushes(at least that’s what I would assume) but then I remembered that crayon case has an amazing blush palette that has three times the amount of blush in it and now I’m working towards getting that
just to remind you that at the end of the day most make up isn’t that different and you can find some thing just as interesting without supporting people that you don’t want to support
as someone who is working to become a professional MUA, I would kill for an opportunity like this to jumpstart my career. But I just can't support James.
I'm glad it seems like he really cares about makeup and this line, but we need to care about the victims too :/
Fr I was going to jump in this but after I researched more about him. It’s a no no.
There is a reason why he doesn’t want his name on the brand. The normal consumer wouldn’t know and purchase his products if they do well and end up supporting him in turn
i can’t get over that he groomed kids. he acts like it didn’t happen and everyone let’s him get away with it. disgusting. he’s talented but most people have talent.
James has done something risky but also genius. He knows his customers will be people who don't know about his drama. Which is mostly people from abroad. Mostly non U.S. Americans. Mostly on the poor spectrum. An affordable brand that can reach them to their countries, especially worldwide will help him a lot. An online store would benefit him financially. Tik tok viewers who don't search up "drama" ir influencers articles, who won't know about James Charles accusations will be likely to buy from an online store affordable makeup that fits their taste. Him making people showcase their taste, their skill and tag him is genius for a start. He know who he will appeal to. Worldwide young tiktok Gen z. He seems inclusive and affordable and he can gain a big customer base. He is smart. He might be a disgusting person, but the only sure thing is he's smart..
He’s absolutely a disgusting person. And a pedo
Disgusting that he is still allowed on social media.
How is that predator still relevant?
Although i think its kindof disgusting the amount of support he still has after everything, I dont think this launch is going to take over tiltok or youtube or anything. I just don't see it happening, if it wasn't for me watching tea videos, I wouldn't even know he's coming out with a brand because I have him blocked and even on my other accounts he never shows up on my fyp. His fans will for sure buy stuff, and i dont think it will fail, but I don't think it will be this big, successful, inspiring launch that he's gassing it up to be. At the end of the day, he's burnt too many bridges to do anything like what the Conspiracy pallet dod when it took over, and his morphie pallet.
We can't go back in time, but as it is now, it seems like the smartest way to do it... (The way he is doing it)
Oh welp this prederator is still here
So sketchy that he has no official rules of entry for this contest and that people can’t bring a plus one. If he can’t properly plan a contest I don’t trust him to plan all the logistics like book flights and hotels, provide transportation and food
I think it’s very smart marketing to involve his fans
Oh god I can't believe I'm saying this but....this has actually made me kinda like him. I'm actually hoping this works out for him, its nice to see him doing all this himself, no investors, involving his fans, asking for all ages and all different types of people, and levels of artisty. I'm impressed 👌🏽
He’s a fucking admitted child predator
why is he not in jail..?
this is exactly why victims don’t like to speak out on things (especially boys.. and yes young boys) smh so sad he still has a platform this big.
Even without the unacceptable stuff he was doing I wouldn't buy it. I'm not into influencer stuff. Most of the time it ends up not actually being affordable
He could have the best, cheapest product known to man and I still wouldn't support him. He ADMITTED to talking to underage boys. Some of whom literally had their ages in their bios or recent bday pics.
it's still wild to me that this dude only has a platform bc Ellen brought him on bc of a "senior photo" that was later found to be photoshopped.
i love the marketing strategy i just wish it wasn't james charles who thought of it i won't be purchasing any of his products i just love the idea of making the makeup formula and trying it with all different types of fans i really hope other brands do that bc it's a really smart idea it just unfortunately popped into the wrong head
I think it's going to be very successful. I'm not the biggest fan of James and stopped watching beauty influencers altogether when the drama went down with Tati/Jeffree/Shane. However, I'm all for positivity, and there's nothing negative about his brand launch at all. Also, I hate cancel culture. Watching someone grow is a beautiful thing, and a lot of what's posted on the internet isn't real to begin with.
He is an admitted child predator. It isn’t cancel culture to call people out for literal crimes. Please tell me that you see what’s negative in a predator sweeping their crimes under the rug
I mean I blocked him on everything after he was outed as a groomer
imagine 💀 girl be so fr
@@bluename9052 yeah being a pedo is nasty he’s legit like the “super senior” hitting on freshman it’s nasty
honestly, the 10 people thing is so genius because it makes people want to buy it more, acts as free advertising, and gets people who would have ignored it or may not like him to participate for the chance to get the fame and attention.
as a business ? excellent ideas, wonderful, incredible. this is going to be a strong launch especially with people starting to get more into makeup again
because it's james ? i will only be watching people's reviews and videos of his stuff, won't be giving my money to it.
I’m scared for his young fans…😬
The fact that an influencer is using the people that got them to where they are is a pretty good marketing strategy. I mean I personally like it when MUA send PR to the people who will ACTUALLY use the products. Pity that this campaign is coming from Miss Charles though 😒
Why the hell is this man allowed on the internet and continuing to get any amount of support after what he’s done? He makes me sick. He doesn’t deserve a penny, I don’t care how much work he claims to have put into this brand.
His campaign almost got me and almost made me wanna make a video myself because I love makeup and this would be amazing, but then I remembered who he was
How come this guy hasn’t been arrested yet?
I don't think it's fair that we give celebrities a pass on poor behavior, grooming, etc. I don't usually like to pay any attention with his face in any video but I like supporting your channel. I don't wish l on him. I'm just wish more people would put their money into better companies that are projecting and supporting other better images
U have literally made a promotional video for his brand 😁
I think getting the audience involved is indeed a good marketing strategy but after everything he's done it's gonna be hard for regular consumers to buy his products
i am seriously in disbelief that this groomer is still getting tons of support and even having the audience to launch his own brand? damn
I ❤️ James Charles. He's the best thing to happen in the universe ✨️. I won't be buying his blush pallette because I use eyeshadow as blush (that's literally what blush is) but if comes out with something else and I like it then yeah I might
Imagine bragging about supporting a child predator
Even if he turned around and said we can pick the makeup we want ourselves, I would never support a groomer!
Honestly he just might be setting up a successful launch.
Yeah I don't see what the tea is at all lol seems pretty harmless?
@@aleccinour missing the point. james has openly admitted to being a groomer. we don’t want to support someone like this
His real reasons for asking for feedback and holding this contest?: Free advertising, free focus groups, and free press. He’s literally getting his customers to tell him exactly how to sell his product to them.
The fact that James still has so many supporters makes me lose some faith in humanity
Unfortunately the same people who were happy to lap up the clout from holding James accountable are also more than happy to lap up the exposure from his campaign… unethical business choices are never free yall. Invest in your integrity.
Are we sure he’s not just luring out his prey?
To be fair, I'd only Audition for the Free makeup chance/Clout. Working with a "celebrity" influencer, can get your name out there. Bad person or not, I don't personally like James nor support him, but I'd use him for a jump start to fame. why not.
Because you’d be exploiting pedophilia. Anyone with a conscience wouldn’t ask this question. Get help
“I don’t personally like James nor support him, but I’ll enable his child abuse for clout.” That’s literally what you said. People like this need to be locked up for the good of the rest of society
@@scipiodriver4076 Yet, there is proof of what he has done... But he isn't locked up... So clearly he has enough money, publicity, and connections, to prevent that. And I'd like that power too. I'd never do that nasty shit, but having power in a world full of powerless is kind of the way to survive nowadays. Working a 9-5, miserable hours at a miserable job. Id rather just colab with a pedo and get my name out there, good rep or bad, gives you money regardless.
@@shadowwolf2921 seriously there has got to be something mentally wrong with you. No normal person is this desperate to rationalize them enabling pedophilia. Go see a fucking therapist before it’s too late
@@scipiodriver4076 Calm down weirdo, people like him in prison wouldn't survive anyway, dude would be dead or hurt 10 seconds into prison. This was all hypothetical, I'm not doing anything I've said. But the fact you care a stranger you don't know over the internet gets you this tilted, is way more sad then my hypothetical situation I've formed to show a controversial side to why he has so many "supporters" & my twist on it, for his little campaign here. 😂 I think you need the therapist if you care that much.
The moment people will want to call him out by something they’ll remember that these choices were made by themselves and what if he’s asking for these things and it will end up way different from what his fans said that they like?
So why is everyone forgetting he’s literally a pr3dator