Dual Empi 34 ICT and EPC Carburetor Kit - From Unboxing to Linkage Setup
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Today we will be going over the EMPI ITC and EPC 34 Carburetor Kit Installation video. This instructional video will provide additional support to the written instructions to help you get these setup and running on your VW.
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This is way better than EMPI's video on how to do this.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Nice video, Gary. Sorry I saw it too late. I have the same 34 ict's in my 1600 beetle but I had to install a Facet pump instead the original pump. They go very well. Thanks from Canary Islands
That’s odd, I’ve installed several sets with the stock fuel pump feeding them just fine.
Regardless, glad you got them sorted out!
Gary I’m so impressed with your knowledge on carburetors you know your stuff brother.
Thank you, I’ve also learned a lot from the VW community as well.
Yay your camera didn’t die. Thanks for the video.
It’s an older video but glad you enjoyed it.
Wow, yes!! I believe these are the carbs I'm been wanting and talking bout, I've seen good reviews and now you have vids on em awesome!!!
They are good carbs as long as you clean them, set the floats and jet them accordingly.
@@VWJawbreaker would u say those jets are fr stock motor? And yes I'm definitely opening and inspecting any carb I buy from now on
@@hectorotani27 from what I’ve seen with the 34’s, they come too rich out of the box. Every engine is different, just go through the lean best idle process and slowly dial it in when driving
Great video Gary thanks. That motor looks beautiful.
Rich Peacock I appreciate that. Thanks for being here.
Great step by step ! Plus the motor is looking goooood 👌👌
Thanks buddy. Next week we’ll fire it up for the cam break in.
@@VWJawbreaker 🍿 🍿 cant wait
Outstanding brother!! I’ve used the dual Webers, I’ve been considering the Empi duals, since they have seemed to step up quality. Great video as usual brother!
These are good lil carbs, people trash talk them a lot for some reason.
Always appreciate you brother!
My 4 year old daughter always laughs when you do the sped up voice thing....it's very funny. Thanks for the good videos.......
Haha, that’s awesome! I do it to add a little something to the videos and make people smile. Life’s too short to always be serious.
3 years later, this video was helpful to me! How long did you run this setup?
I’m glad you found the video helpful!
He’s still running this combo without issue.
Nice engine ..great job 😍😍😍👍
Thank you much and thanks for being here!
Hey, those carbs look familiar. Looking good. They are definitely not plug and play but most things aren't on these old VDubs.
I don’t think anything is plug and play unfortunately, old vehicles always need some kind of massaging
I'm glad you have brought up the float level with the new shit fuel we have these days. I kept having fuel boil over after shutting down the motor and did some research and found out the new ethanol fuel has a different buoyancy and boiling point compared to the conventional gasoline that the float specs were originally set to. I also set my floats a mill or 2 lower just because of that. I have ran the empi's as well as Italian weber 34's and haven't seen any performance different besides the empi's having better idle quality due to tight throttle shafts:) it has been about 8 years since I ran the baby weber clones so they may have changed the jetting but they were extremely lean on cruise and I wondered why a set of dual carbs on a stock 1600 was slower than the single carb, well a few jet changes later and it ran well:) heck with the haters everything is china made and empi isn't the best but if thats all you can afford go thru it, check it out and run it they aren't bad at all:) thanks for the vid!
You make several great points. Not sure if they changed the bushings in the shafts or not but with these they almost look like bearings. Time will tell, I know a few people who have been running these for 3-4 years without any issues at all..... and their VW’s don’t sit around either.
@@VWJawbreaker they are a good carb, not a screamer like a couple idf's but they get the job done:) I think all the bad rep was from early carbs that had cross threaded idle mixture screws and manufacturing debris in the fuel bowl
V8N8T it must have been in the past, although I still open up new Empi carbs here and there and see debris in the bowls.
Wish I could have put IDF’s on this engine but it’s a single port.
Sorry I know this video was posted a while ago, I found this kit "new" open box on marketplace and I'm missing the brass T fitting, hoses and fittings for the crossover tube, you wouldn't happen to know the sizes you used on this install?
Off hand, I’m not sure exactly because it came in the kit.
I’m thinking it was 1/4” ntp to 1/4” barb, 1/4” tee and 1/4” hose.
If this is going on a dual port you don’t need to worry about the cross over tube.
@@VWJawbreaker thanks for the info, it's for a single port
Great video. Do they make them in duel port? And I have to be your dad and say, stop smoking. Hardest thing I ever did.
They do make these for either single port or dual port. Only difference is the intakes of course.
I hear ya, I need to quit for good..... most difficult thing ever and I’ve been through a lot.
im having a problem identifying my dual carbs as i do believe they need a rebuild, mine look very similar except my cross bar runs below i believe i have a left and a right, also i have electric chokes, my local VW shops havnt been able to help, all i want to find are rebuild kits as i dont have 600 for new set , i may have them in one of my VW vids or i can sent you a shot or clip if you think you or anyone reading can help?
Sounds like they could be a solex carb if they have chokes. Shoot me a short video or email me some pics man, lemme see what I can do.
I think u made a mistake
Short linkage extension is for passenger side
And how do u take off the spark plug ? Mines barely touches the balance pipe fitting
And how is it going since one year ?
You may be right and I think I might have swapped them over but it’s hard to remember from over a year ago.
Once it left he put it at his house as he’s still building the car and is taking longer than he had hoped for due to his work schedule.
Its ok to read the instructions, they can always be ignored for the learn the hard way method.
Whatever works for the person.
Thanks Gary. Great vid. I'm hung up on the empi or the weber carb set. I keep going back and forth. Which seem to set up better in your opinion? Awesome job my friend. Stay cool and be safe! Jim
Hey buddy! Honestly, between the Weber and the Empi they are the same.... the Weber’s now a days aren’t Weber anyway, they are Redline. I’ve seen good and bad with both, take your pick and either way go through them well, verify your jetting and have at it.
Do you have to use a pressure regulator for fuel on both or just the Webers?
Jim Lester both require 2.5-3 psi of fuel, so yes if your pump puts out more than that.
Can this be installed with the motor all ready in the car? I have a stock single carb set up car now>>>>>
If it’s a beetle, that’s the only way you can do it.... with dual carbs the engine is too wide to install into the bug.
Is dual 43’s a better choice than those big 40’s for a reliable daily driver?
40’s aren’t much bigger than the 34’s. If you tune either set properly you’ll get good Milage and performance.
Dear Jawbreaker my 74 beetle wont start after putting the dual carburators on, how did you wire yours. It will crank, and I have spark fuel and so on. I sounds like it's backfiring/misfiring when I am cranking it, hope you can helo
Carb wise there’s nothing to wire up.
If it’s backfiring while cranking, check your plug wires and make sure they are on the correct plugs.
Gary great video. How is the coil bracket mounted to the engine ? THANKS !!
The kit comes with a coil bracket that mounts to one fuel pump stud and also the case half bolt where a stock intake would bolt up.
@@VWJawbreaker Do you know who makes the bracket. Can't find one like this where you can run the stock fuel pump -only block off plates with a coil mount. THANKS !!
Mike Briere I bought mine through amazon. See link - EMPI Coil Relocation Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B003KKDA7W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZmalFbETHCK6J
hola amigo tu tiene manual caburador esto video necesita manual caburador
Hello, What did you do with the crankcase ventilation?
Left it as a road draft tube for the time being.
@@VWJawbreaker does it have provisions to add it to the air cleaner? I'm thinking about buying the same kit, do you recommend it?
@@edweigman9683 I don’t recall if it has provisions to hook to the air cleaner or not... it’s been a while. They are a good kit, just take your time and clean them out and tune them to your engine.
i have always used brand new webers on my cars, and none of them are plug and play they need cleaning, and the jets are way off( for my engine specs)
Never plug and play, would be nice if things were that simple.
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Hope you’re doing well.
What is the measurement of the float to the gasket when it is open? If I missed this somewhere I apologize
@@DrJazz7 I honestly don’t recall off the top of my head.
I normally don’t measure the drop, I just ensure the float has good travel and doesn’t get bound up. The cut off measurement is what matters.
Great video , what size is the engine 1600cc SP
It’s a 1641 with a c25 cam.
can this be done to 1300 single port vw engine?
I don’t see why not but I personally do not have any experience with these carbs on a 1300.
yes i run them on my 1300cc and 1641cc different jet sizes though 👍
@@vw_beachbuggybrookster what jet sized
Ended up with 130 mains I believe.
Really cool to see all the finer details of this install. These seem like neat little carbs, thanks for the walk through!
Haptic Garage they do work pretty good, especially on single port engines. Hopefully the video will help someone out at some point.
Dial indicator???? Lol. That's a caliper!
Oh no, I called something the wrong name 😂
Thanks for the video exact same carburetors I have going on the Type 4
They will be good, we know a few people that love them also.
Any advice or words of wisdom about putting 2 of these carbs onto a ford 200 six cylinder?
To be honest, it would probably work as long as you got the jetting correct. Heck, guy on YT put a lawnmower carb on a ford 302….. anything is possible!
@@VWJawbreaker Well. I wasn't going for anything as extreme as TH289's lawnmower carb experiment, I just figured if a 34 PICT could power a 1600cc engine (roughly 100 CID) then 2 could power a 200 CID engine, plus I understand they're fairly easy to tune. I was planning on using a pair of Autolite 1100s initially but I think that might be too much carb.
@@imaouima I do know people who run these carbs on 2000cc engines… I think you’ll be able to make them work.
Great video and relative to thousands of VW enthusiast. Got a stock type 4 engine, 1972 bay window running SVDA distributor, electronic ignition, Empi EPC34 duals and live in Florida . Any advice on jets, fuel/air mixture turns out, etc...? Got hesitation, rough idle....done everything (set valves, plugs, wires, timing, seafoam) ordered rebuild kits today. Thank you sir...just subscribed.
Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the channel. The entire purpose of my vids isn’t for me but for others to learn from my experience and knowledge that I have gained. I’m not an expert whatsoever!
As for your bus, man every engine is different. I wouldn’t be able to really give you much advise without being there. All I can suggest is make sure you have them synced and at lean best idle.
Nice...i just got a pair...
My bad, hahahaha...I would have commented sooner...my crappy Philippines internet has been out...
I appreciate you taking the time to comment, even with the crappy internet!
Nice video, very easy to understand the breakdown of these. Quick question - the idle mixture screw, if you back it out does it lean the mixture? I assume that it does.
Thank you for that.
The idle mixture screws are metering fuel, not air. As they are turned out you’re letting more fuel through the idle circuit. Turn out, richer, turn in, leaner.
Thank You so much for helping ( you doing all the work) lol with my motor. Amazing attention to detail you ROCK Jawbreaker garage. ;)
Aaron Childs always happy to help a friend.... that’s what friends do.
Lmaooo the kids vacuuming inside, I just bought a Weber kit it looks a lot alike
Gotta keep the kids busy earning their keep! 😂
Both kits are identical for the most part minus the name on the side.
Great video thanks, I didn’t know about the balance pipe that runs between them, good info ✨👍
Thank you for being here, hope you found it useful.
How good are these off road with bouncing and stuff
Haven’t used them off road but they would work just as well as any other carb.
I have used a ⅜ drill bit for setting the float
David Wegner nice thinking!
My setup did not have the crossover to equalize. Did you add that and do i need it?
Is yours a single port or dual port?
@@VWJawbreaker duel port 1776 with an aluminum bubble top case.
@@edweigman9683 the balance tube is mostly needed for the single port kits. Look your manifolds over carefully, as they might have a pipe plug in them instead of a hose barb. I’ve also seen people run the balance tube on dual ports. You could also drill and tap them for a 1/4" hose barb too.
Excellent yet again Gary :-)
Thank you my friend.
Looking good
Thank you and thanks for being here.