I have been upgrading a 9020 as a side project and a LAN PC / work PC Running the gtx1650 through the x4 slot and havent been having any issues so far! Great vid man
Managed to get an insane deal on an Optiplex MT with 16 gb ram, 250gb ssd for £100 delivered. I put my GTX 1050ti in it and was playing cyberpunk 2077 within 2 hours. I was astonished it ran at all. Most settings are medium but some are low to maintain a stable frame rate.
dude can u please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
It irks me so much that most of these kinds of systems have the upper slot as the x4 and the lower one as the x16 with no room. Meaning you have to take that performance hit if you want a dual slot card which would be the more powerful one.
Was able to add a 350W PSU to my Optiplex 3010 as the first upgrade, Upgraded CPU from i5-3450-i5-3570K, OC’D to 4.2ghz, Z77 Gigabyte D3H, Crucial MX500 500gb SSD. Luckily the 1650 Super has a TDP of 100w’s and the new PSU comes with a 6 pin. Very excited!
Rx 6400 xt really is the best, but it depends on the type of motherboard. The older Optiplex Sff cards had the Pcie slot further away from the power supply, this allows the installation of more robust cards. However, there are places where the Pcie slot is very close to the power supply, so it is not possible to install stronger cards. In your case, what type of motherboard was it? Thanks.
if someone is crazy enough to create a pci mounting slot to attach the low profile cards flipped vertically so that you can run a riser to the card in the X16 slot, I think that would be worth it. You'd need some screws and a bit of foam to let it hold itself but it would be worth it tbh.
You should try one of these NVIDIA RTX A2000 6GB or 12GB models. They are better than a 1660 Ti and they run on 70 watt board PCI slot and don't need PCI-E connectors.
So here I am watching from New Zealand and you mention MrWhitianga which is also from NZ based on that name. Have a google of "Whitianga" - it's a small coastal town and it's up for debate on how you'd pronounce it. In "native" Maori the 'Wh' would be pronounced 'F', but even here i'd say there's a 80% F and the other 20% say Wh. Random I know, but there's some info on that. Good on that guy for making a video about 4X vs 16X and good on you for this video.
Great video! I picked up a super cheap 9020 sff after my ancient 960 passed away at work and was wondering if there were any good upgrades for it. Quick questions, did you have any issues with the psu it comes it or would it be better to upgrade to a 315W psu? And I'll dive through your videos but is there anyone you recommend for RAM upgrades for this model? Thanks!
One of my rigs is a Lenovo M93p (i5 4570 3.2GHz 4/4, 8GB RAM) which I upgraded to 16GB RAM, a 512GB SSD Win10/240GB SSD Garuda Linux, and Nvidia GT 1030 2GB. Runs Skyrim, Mad Max, Batman Arkham City on medium smooth. Runs Fallout New Vegas and Just Cause 2 on max wicked slick.
Hey, Mr. Whitianga didn’t modify the case rather broke a part to fit gpu and just tested with power supply hanging out. That is not called modification.And I am still wondering why didn’t he simply use a pcie x16 riser cable to test x16!? You should please do a modification and also test rx 6400 now!
I was able to find a dell optiplex 9020 sff i5 16G ram 250 ssd for $180 a few months ago. Now I’m trying to find a dedicated graphics card. This was very helpful thank you, now to find a 1050I LP for a good price.
I snagged a Lenovo M910s for 150eur recently and was thinking of getting a LP 1050 as well. Found a Quadro P1000 for 80eur instead, it should be very similar to the 1050. It's not the greatest but I was happy to find out it could even run Warzone (in potato quality, but still).
The 3020 sff only has a 1x and a 16x PCIE slot so it only supports one slot cards. The best card that will work with the 3020 sff is the rx6400 lp edition. It gives roughly the same speeds as a 1650 but for much cheaper.
Today I learned that there is such a card as the GT720. I was aware of the ubiquitous and bad GT 730 and also lately learned of the GT 705 but not the GT 720 until now... weird. Why do they make all of these crappy boards? Must be just for extra monitor outputs because they SUCK. There's also the nVidia T600 and T1000 but they're workstation cards and quite expensive. I noticed he also didn't test the GT 1030 which is another option (and the one I have atm). But there's plenty of videos about the GT 1030. It needs no introduction. I have to agree with you, for this use case and for the money the RX 6400 is as good as it gets. Which is actually kind of sad tbh. Too bad nVidia and their board partners don't make a single slot low profile GTX 1650. It seems these manufacturers don't care what the market wants/needs, they just put out whatever crap they want and see if we buy it. Maybe if they actually cared they'd do surveys or something. Also screw Dell for putting the PCIe x16 slot in the wrong place on their SFFs. They could do better for their part, too.
@@SeeJayPlayGames I'm guessing for Southeast Asian markets or countries that have plenty of these small gaming internet cafes. If these cards were animals I'd say they are donkeys because with a little tweaking it can run plenty of games and it doesn't cost much. Heck I ran a lot of games with my GT 710 card and never had a problem with my PC and GPU.
I have the 9010 SFF version of this that was given to me for free. One of the main differences between it and the 9020 is that the x16 slot is the furthest slot from the power supply so it's possible to plug a double wide graphics card into it without mods. The second major difference is that it will only take gen 3 CPUs. I'm using mine as a PLEX server so I don't care. I still have the optical drive for ripping, a 1TB SSD, and a 6TB HDD for main storage.
I got mine from work after a fire. Cleaned it up, dropped in the 4770s from another fire-damaged PC, and swapped in a 480gb SSD. I'm looking at getting a GPU for this to make it into a small, low-power gaming-capable alternative to my other PC (Ryzen 5, rtx2080, 32gb, etc), but man those low-profile, no power connector GPUs are EXPENSIVE for what they are. They are so expensive, that in most cases, $50 more gets you a full-size model!
The PSU can support a 1650 right(i have a 7020)? Also don't the brands have different sizes? Gigabyte is the cheapest, but i don't see the measurements anywhere. Also i read that the 1650 isn't any better than the 1050 because of bottlenecking.
This might be a little overkill. But would a 9020 optiplex coupled with something like a 1650 or 1050 ti be enough for ps2 emulation at 1080p? I want something small to play old games in my living room and I am really struggling trying to find something that's both small, powerful enough and doesn't cost a lot.
@@RAVisuals thank you so much for replying so soon. I was stressed out because there were so many things I had to be aware of like power supply issues and not to mention there are like a million different sff desktops to choose from lol. Thanks again!
am i the only one thinking that the dell optiplex will go up in value because of how its not too hard to upgrade and has good performance for a office pc
I bought one with 32gb of ram and 1tb ssd for 200 a week and it's been fantastic. Bought a 1030 to go with it and it's been really solid. I haven't even owned a pc so I wanted to see if I liked pc gaming
Bought an Optiplex 9020 to use as a media PC. Mine came with a 4th gen i7, 32gb ram and a one TB SSD, and I added a second one TB SSD that was collecting dust. Surprised at how snappy the system performs with the GTX 1030 low profile card I pulled from a 12 year old PC the Dell is replacing. It got me thinking just what could I drop in this thing to max out its capabilities. Went with the GTX 1650 from MSI for its 4mb DDR5 vram. Frame rate means more to me than anything. Where the GTX 1030 could do Heaven BM at 720p nicely, the GTX 1650 can do that at 1080p. For giggles I dropped GTA5 on the system. Hey! This thing can peg 60 FSP while on-line on a big TV at 1080p very high settings. Last time I saw GTAV on a TV was on the PS4. This little Dell by comparison is killing it! No problem running some Halo. The things I play work great. Vsync pegged at 60 means the graphics card isn't working too hard and hopefully giving the God know how old power supply a rest too. (Did some video rendering, and shot the CPU temps above 90c. NOPE, not doing that again. And I recommend you do not do that either.) In even moderate gaming temps stay below 50c. Might hit 70c doing intensive gaming. HEY! Long as the Optiplex 9020 lasts??? It kinda rocks for what I paid for it. I love it! Even having a Ryzen 9, 64gbram 3080ti system also. That one? That's not hooked up to my TV. I wouldn't want to do that either because even though the Ryzen 9 system is not that noisy. . . the Dell SFF Opitplex is pretty much silent. And it games! (And I didn't destroy it stress testing the thing within its return period!) This thing might just last the 5 years as a media PC / TV gamer that I'd like to get out of it.
@@PassportBigBro What's probably most interest to you is I swapped the i7 4770 3.4 for an i7 4790 3.6 GHZ base clock in the 9020 SFF rig. Thermals are very good now. It can actually max all cores and just creep above 80c every now and then. Cause? The heatsink felt loose to me. That'll trash your thermals. It's also possible but I don't think so that the CPU could use some delidding. There's also a low profile RTX A2000 Ampere GPU in the system now. It's quite the little go getter, punching up above it's weight for sure. ??? The 4790 non-K came out of a mid tower Dell 9020. A 4790K 4.0 ghz went in that MT case. Thermals are similar to the SFF. You're leaving some potential on the table letting the 4790K boost itself in an Optiplex of all things. It sure works brilliantly though. Stays at about 4.3 GHZ all by itself with the high performance power profile in Windows. It's paired with an RTX 2060. 750 watt PSU. Run Cyberpunk well above 60 FPS at 1080p all day. It does much more than eSports titles. Why? Why not. The 9020 MT cost less than the 9020 SFF as it was mostly spare parts. The 4090K 4.0? I just said what the hell and put that in. It sure works! Buy three 9020 MTs for the cost of one used enthusiast morherboard to OC a 9020K. I'm using both the SFF and MT rigs myself. They're both great and close enough in performance that you might not know which one you were looking at. The mid-tower is better due to options from being able to replace the stock PSU. There are no case swaps here. I like the sleeper look.)
I'll also note I believe the RTX 2060 is a great pairing with the Dell mid-tower i7 4090K 4.0. For anyone who ever wanted a 1080TI on their Haswell box, the RTX 2060 is very comperable to that. Here's that rig. And now . . . I'm considering using a bios hack so this thing will boot off an NVME SSD on a PCI express card. A mid-tower actually DOES have room even with a graphics card. EXCEPT I like the system the way it is now. It's serving as an actual media PC and a center of attention in a home theater. It doesn't need more tweaking.
hello! I would like to install a graphics card model ASUS GTX 750 Ti on my 3020 SFF. Do I need to change any settings in the BIOS for the system to recognize the video card?
Lol, I was given the i7 version that was going to be sent to disposal from the IT guy at my old work . I love it for what it is, I've upgraded to 32GB RAM and a 1TB HDD, will grab a GTX 1650 low profile next. Awesome comparison, thanks for making this!
Hello, I have a dell 9020 sff and moved the mobo into the m-atx case, can a normal model not LP, gtx 1050ti run a oem 255w psu? because I don't want to upgrade to a bigger psu
What cpu was this? Because csgo is a very cpu dependent game and I know my laptop can run it better then that. Intergrated graphics has to be far worse then a 1050 ti
My question can I remove the motherboard and put on a bigger case can I still use a better GPU I'm currently using a GT710 which is pure shit,if I buy a psu and a new gpu(my gpu range is 1070 or 1650 can't afford anything better than that)and a case..I'm wondering if I'll run into problems if I do that...
@@RAVisuals ok nvm i bought 7040 mt with i7 6700 and 32gb ddr4 ram and put gtx 1660 super and a 500w psu in it, and i actually really like the way this pc can get so much fps for so cheap
This is the video I needed as I have a Dell SFF 7020 that I can get a Nvidia Ge-Force LF 1650 graphics card for a great price new! Looks like I won't have to cut the back of my PC to fit it now. lol And losing 10% seems like a good sacrifice and it should still run the arcade games I want to on my build.
Thanks for the great video! This might be a dumb question but does the MSI version of the 1650 and the Gigabyte version have different sizes? Like one won't fit in my 9020? or performance issues. Anyway great video.
i picked up a 3020 for 45 bucks and im very happy with it as im using it mostly as a media pc in my living room but i also want to get into modifying pc's and use this one as my labrat to experiment on since ive never opened a pc before. Gonna up the ram and maybe put a 1650 in if i can find one for a reasonable price
hi friend, I have a question pls…. I have same optiplex 9020 with 32GB ram, i7, 2t SSD, 240w power supply…. I want to know if I add the graphics card, will I be able to use (Davinci Resolve) to edit videos??
They are good yes, the more budget you got the better gpu you can get, if you are gonna be using it only for premiere pro I suggest go for Quadro GPUs there are some cheap yet powerful but if you wanna game too then go for 6400 in budget or if you got cash go for rtx 4060 lp or 3060lp
Is a Dell OptiPlex 9020 MT i7-4790 3.6GHz 16GB RAM 500GB HDD for $250 a good deal I've been wanting to get a computer for a while and i don't really want to pay more than $350 and i was wondering if that's the best deal
@@RAVisuals Thanks man. I got an old Optiplex 9020 SFF and wanna upgrade it now. But it looks like the maximum psu you can get for it is a 315 watts. Is that enough ya think, or does it need more juice?
Hello there. can an i7 upgrade work with these 9020 Optiplex, i have 10 of these and so far at 20gb ram and 500gb hdd and OEM win 10 pro it works very good... i got you on not actually buying these. i didn't they were given to me. i got 6 working so far.
Yes, the mini-towers any day over the SFF Optiplexes. 4 ram slots is also a must, 3.0 GPU slot, and on and on. SFF boxes were ok five years ago but we are now in 2023, and time to say goodbye to them for good unless all you do it email and listen to music and watch YT. No gaming on SFF in 2023.
I'm interested in putting an rx 550 2gb in my Dell optiplex 7020 SFF with an i-5 4590, it comes with a 255W psu. Would I need to upgrade the psu or is that enough for the 550?🤔
i have a 9020 sff . i5 processor, 1050ti and 16gb Ram. Runs well. The only issue i have that i have not been able to figure out is my monitor will randomly disconnect and reconnect while using the video card. Doesnt happen with onboard video though. Other than that, its a decent cheap gaming pc. I run gta v, pubg, call of duty (mobile) as well as other games, and also Second Life.
dude can u please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
the 3020 sff doesn't have a second video card slot it only supports single slot cards which wont work with the 1050 ti or 1650 lp i dont think the 750ti would work unless you had a certain type
please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
Consider benchmarking some other great titles like, Tarkov and rust. They are 2 of my biggest games i play and im wondering if this sort of system could run both for my brother
Hi RA Visuals,According to the official dell optiplex sff manual models such 9020,7020 .. ...do not support more than 25W per PCI-e . You have real relevant practical experience in testing models with video cards requiring more than 25W , so you do not have power issues,don't you?
After my findings. 25w is more of a recommendation, as the standard for the pcie slot is actually 75w I believe. If you can sneak in a better psu (there's like one better, 315w iirc) then you should be able to push for higher cards with less stress
I just got mine and bought the Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ White Certified PSU.. I realized I made a mistake because the computer looks really small am I going to be able to put in the power supply?
im looking to upgrade the 180w psu inside my 7050 sff but I dont know if the power supplys Im looking at on amazon are compatible with any of these gpus (im new to pc gaming btw so I have very little idea what im doing).
I don't know if you're still looking to upgrade or not since it's been seven months, however, most of these power supplies should generally be compatible with these GPU's. Just make sure the power supply has enough wattage and power capacity to hold in the amount of power that it'll hold! 👍
![Lp. Сердце Вселенной #60 РОЖДЕНИЕ ЛОЛОЛОШКИ [Финал] • Майнкрафт](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YoR0pAV9FVQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I have been upgrading a 9020 as a side project and a LAN PC / work PC
Running the gtx1650 through the x4 slot and havent been having any issues so far!
Great vid man
Did u have to upgrade the power supply?
Is it sff
This is good to know... see my comment above
Managed to get an insane deal on an Optiplex MT with 16 gb ram, 250gb ssd for £100 delivered. I put my GTX 1050ti in it and was playing cyberpunk 2077 within 2 hours. I was astonished it ran at all. Most settings are medium but some are low to maintain a stable frame rate.
i got mine last week dell optiplex 990 500 ssd and 4gb ram i'll upgrade the ram someday,,,enjoy
dude can u please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
Been waiting for this one. Let’s see how close I was on guessing the cards
You were just about spot on my man!
It irks me so much that most of these kinds of systems have the upper slot as the x4 and the lower one as the x16 with no room. Meaning you have to take that performance hit if you want a dual slot card which would be the more powerful one.
Was able to add a 350W PSU to my Optiplex 3010 as the first upgrade, Upgraded CPU from i5-3450-i5-3570K, OC’D to 4.2ghz, Z77 Gigabyte D3H, Crucial MX500 500gb SSD. Luckily the 1650 Super has a TDP of 100w’s and the new PSU comes with a 6 pin. Very excited!
Could you please specify which PSU you used, where you got it?
Best gpu for any dell optiplex sff is the rx 6400 xt low profile.I had it in my old dell optiplex build an it worked really well.
Rx 6400 xt really is the best, but it depends on the type of motherboard. The older Optiplex Sff cards had the Pcie slot further away from the power supply, this allows the installation of more robust cards. However, there are places where the Pcie slot is very close to the power supply, so it is not possible to install stronger cards. In your case, what type of motherboard was it? Thanks.
if someone is crazy enough to create a pci mounting slot to attach the low profile cards flipped vertically so that you can run a riser to the card in the X16 slot, I think that would be worth it.
You'd need some screws and a bit of foam to let it hold itself but it would be worth it tbh.
What about an rtx a2000. Isnt it a low pro 6gb card? And what about a riser adapter to utilize the desired slot?
This video was extremely helpful. I made this build for small pc games and Java Minecraft. This worked perfect for me, and I only spent ≈350 USD.
You should try one of these NVIDIA RTX A2000 6GB or 12GB models. They are better than a 1660 Ti and they run on 70 watt board PCI slot and don't need PCI-E connectors.
🤯 I'm looking for something to put in a 7040 build I was thinking of in RX 580 but ill look into a a2000 now
I have a 570 but it's rubbish ddr3 version,make sure to get the newest 580 with the fastest ram.@@Lillucson
@@johncollins5552 i ended up going with a rx5500xt for the 7040 i7 6th gen
So here I am watching from New Zealand and you mention MrWhitianga which is also from NZ based on that name. Have a google of "Whitianga" - it's a small coastal town and it's up for debate on how you'd pronounce it. In "native" Maori the 'Wh' would be pronounced 'F', but even here i'd say there's a 80% F and the other 20% say Wh. Random I know, but there's some info on that. Good on that guy for making a video about 4X vs 16X and good on you for this video.
What!? So crazy haha. Yeah he was super nice and allowed me to use his research so that was very nice of him!
Great video! I picked up a super cheap 9020 sff after my ancient 960 passed away at work and was wondering if there were any good upgrades for it. Quick questions, did you have any issues with the psu it comes it or would it be better to upgrade to a 315W psu? And I'll dive through your videos but is there anyone you recommend for RAM upgrades for this model? Thanks!
One of my rigs is a Lenovo M93p (i5 4570 3.2GHz 4/4, 8GB RAM) which I upgraded to 16GB RAM, a 512GB SSD Win10/240GB SSD Garuda Linux, and Nvidia GT 1030 2GB. Runs Skyrim, Mad Max, Batman Arkham City on medium smooth. Runs Fallout New Vegas and Just Cause 2 on max wicked slick.
Hey, Mr. Whitianga didn’t modify the case rather broke a part to fit gpu and just tested with power supply hanging out. That is not called modification.And I am still wondering why didn’t he simply use a pcie x16 riser cable to test x16!? You should please do a modification and also test rx 6400 now!
I had no idea some x4 slots were open ended. That's interesting to know! Still sad about the performance hit it takes in this config.
yeah, its nice that it works but still kinda sucks you don't get the full performance of the card.
From what I just seen it only takes a ten percent dip using the 4 slot vs the 16 slot?
I was able to find a dell optiplex 9020 sff i5 16G ram 250 ssd for $180 a few months ago. Now I’m trying to find a dedicated graphics card. This was very helpful thank you, now to find a 1050I LP for a good price.
I snagged a Lenovo M910s for 150eur recently and was thinking of getting a LP 1050 as well. Found a Quadro P1000 for 80eur instead, it should be very similar to the 1050. It's not the greatest but I was happy to find out it could even run Warzone (in potato quality, but still).
Hello excuse me is there any GPUs that can fit in the 16x slot of 7020 sff , As I have a WiFi card on the 4x slot
Crazy 2 years later and still no reply!
rx6400 is the best single slot card you will find currently ( mid 2024)
Minipcie wifi card
Gt 1030,lp gt 1050lp not much else, needs to be short and slim.😂
The 3020 sff only has a 1x and a 16x PCIE slot so it only supports one slot cards. The best card that will work with the 3020 sff is the rx6400 lp edition. It gives roughly the same speeds as a 1650 but for much cheaper.
do it really work?
Today I learned that there is such a card as the GT720. I was aware of the ubiquitous and bad GT 730 and also lately learned of the GT 705 but not the GT 720 until now... weird. Why do they make all of these crappy boards? Must be just for extra monitor outputs because they SUCK.
There's also the nVidia T600 and T1000 but they're workstation cards and quite expensive. I noticed he also didn't test the GT 1030 which is another option (and the one I have atm). But there's plenty of videos about the GT 1030. It needs no introduction.
I have to agree with you, for this use case and for the money the RX 6400 is as good as it gets. Which is actually kind of sad tbh.
Too bad nVidia and their board partners don't make a single slot low profile GTX 1650. It seems these manufacturers don't care what the market wants/needs, they just put out whatever crap they want and see if we buy it. Maybe if they actually cared they'd do surveys or something.
Also screw Dell for putting the PCIe x16 slot in the wrong place on their SFFs. They could do better for their part, too.
Can a xfx speedster swift 105 6400 work with it
@@SeeJayPlayGames I'm guessing for Southeast Asian markets or countries that have plenty of these small gaming internet cafes. If these cards were animals I'd say they are donkeys because with a little tweaking it can run plenty of games and it doesn't cost much. Heck I ran a lot of games with my GT 710 card and never had a problem with my PC and GPU.
My GTX 1050TI lp, temp 82celsius (Dell Optiplex sff 9020) Why? Help!
I have the 9010 SFF version of this that was given to me for free. One of the main differences between it and the 9020 is that the x16 slot is the furthest slot from the power supply so it's possible to plug a double wide graphics card into it without mods. The second major difference is that it will only take gen 3 CPUs. I'm using mine as a PLEX server so I don't care. I still have the optical drive for ripping, a 1TB SSD, and a 6TB HDD for main storage.
I hate how some of the newer graphics cards dont have vga or dvi much anymore. I don’t have any monitors with DisplayPort.
I got mine from work after a fire. Cleaned it up, dropped in the 4770s from another fire-damaged PC, and swapped in a 480gb SSD. I'm looking at getting a GPU for this to make it into a small, low-power gaming-capable alternative to my other PC (Ryzen 5, rtx2080, 32gb, etc), but man those low-profile, no power connector GPUs are EXPENSIVE for what they are. They are so expensive, that in most cases, $50 more gets you a full-size model!
so true! they really charge you a premium for the smaller size
@@RAVisuals I'm actually looking into transplanting it into a different case and using a regular pay with an adaptor, if such a thing exists
The PSU can support a 1650 right(i have a 7020)? Also don't the brands have different sizes? Gigabyte is the cheapest, but i don't see the measurements anywhere. Also i read that the 1650 isn't any better than the 1050 because of bottlenecking.
great vid what did it al cost together?
He got ripped off, you can get an i7 with win for 70 ish bucks and a 1650 gpu for around that same price.
This might be a little overkill. But would a 9020 optiplex coupled with something like a 1650 or 1050 ti be enough for ps2 emulation at 1080p? I want something small to play old games in my living room and I am really struggling trying to find something that's both small, powerful enough and doesn't cost a lot.
that would work like a charm! Just like the emulation I did with this build!
@@RAVisuals thank you so much for replying so soon. I was stressed out because there were so many things I had to be aware of like power supply issues and not to mention there are like a million different sff desktops to choose from lol.
Thanks again!
Is the Dell PSU enough for these cards?
am i the only one thinking that the dell optiplex will go up in value because of how its not too hard to upgrade and has good performance for a office pc
its a very good value option! graphics cards are just the hard part right now
I bought one with 32gb of ram and 1tb ssd for 200 a week and it's been fantastic. Bought a 1030 to go with it and it's been really solid. I haven't even owned a pc so I wanted to see if I liked pc gaming
you saved my buddy, know all i have to do is putt in a 1050 ti for then call it good since this will be his first gaming pc
Great video Ricky! I have this computer. Which one of these cards is compatible with Windows 11 ? The integrated video is not. Thanks!
I'm honestly not sure! I haven't even dipped into windows 11 yet
What about taking out the board and put it in a mid tower with a better psu and a 24 to 8 pin adapter?
You could do this but from what I've researched, you have to take all of the connections to the new case still. Would make quite a mess
Bought an Optiplex 9020 to use as a media PC. Mine came with a 4th gen i7, 32gb ram and a one TB SSD, and I added a second one TB SSD that was collecting dust. Surprised at how snappy the system performs with the GTX 1030 low profile card I pulled from a 12 year old PC the Dell is replacing. It got me thinking just what could I drop in this thing to max out its capabilities. Went with the GTX 1650 from MSI for its 4mb DDR5 vram. Frame rate means more to me than anything. Where the GTX 1030 could do Heaven BM at 720p nicely, the GTX 1650 can do that at 1080p. For giggles I dropped GTA5 on the system. Hey! This thing can peg 60 FSP while on-line on a big TV at 1080p very high settings. Last time I saw GTAV on a TV was on the PS4. This little Dell by comparison is killing it! No problem running some Halo. The things I play work great. Vsync pegged at 60 means the graphics card isn't working too hard and hopefully giving the God know how old power supply a rest too. (Did some video rendering, and shot the CPU temps above 90c. NOPE, not doing that again. And I recommend you do not do that either.) In even moderate gaming temps stay below 50c. Might hit 70c doing intensive gaming. HEY! Long as the Optiplex 9020 lasts??? It kinda rocks for what I paid for it. I love it! Even having a Ryzen 9, 64gbram 3080ti system also. That one? That's not hooked up to my TV. I wouldn't want to do that either because even though the Ryzen 9 system is not that noisy. . . the Dell SFF Opitplex is pretty much silent. And it games! (And I didn't destroy it stress testing the thing within its return period!) This thing might just last the 5 years as a media PC / TV gamer that I'd like to get out of it.
love to see it man! Its great that these can still get plenty of use from people!
I have the same system and I was hoping to do some slight rendering using da Vinci and you’re saying you clock 90° or more oh nooooo lol😢
@@PassportBigBro What's probably most interest to you is I swapped the i7 4770 3.4 for an i7 4790 3.6 GHZ base clock in the 9020 SFF rig. Thermals are very good now. It can actually max all cores and just creep above 80c every now and then. Cause? The heatsink felt loose to me. That'll trash your thermals. It's also possible but I don't think so that the CPU could use some delidding. There's also a low profile RTX A2000 Ampere GPU in the system now. It's quite the little go getter, punching up above it's weight for sure.
??? The 4790 non-K came out of a mid tower Dell 9020. A 4790K 4.0 ghz went in that MT case. Thermals are similar to the SFF. You're leaving some potential on the table letting the 4790K boost itself in an Optiplex of all things. It sure works brilliantly though. Stays at about 4.3 GHZ all by itself with the high performance power profile in Windows. It's paired with an RTX 2060. 750 watt PSU. Run Cyberpunk well above 60 FPS at 1080p all day. It does much more than eSports titles. Why? Why not. The 9020 MT cost less than the 9020 SFF as it was mostly spare parts. The 4090K 4.0? I just said what the hell and put that in. It sure works! Buy three 9020 MTs for the cost of one used enthusiast morherboard to OC a 9020K. I'm using both the SFF and MT rigs myself. They're both great and close enough in performance that you might not know which one you were looking at. The mid-tower is better due to options from being able to replace the stock PSU. There are no case swaps here. I like the sleeper look.)
I'll also note I believe the RTX 2060 is a great pairing with the Dell mid-tower i7 4090K 4.0. For anyone who ever wanted a 1080TI on their Haswell box, the RTX 2060 is very comperable to that. Here's that rig. And now . . . I'm considering using a bios hack so this thing will boot off an NVME SSD on a PCI express card. A mid-tower actually DOES have room even with a graphics card. EXCEPT I like the system the way it is now. It's serving as an actual media PC and a center of attention in a home theater. It doesn't need more tweaking.
I recently bought a 5050 what gpu would work best with this?
Will an ASUS 1650 Work too because it looks bigger and different in shape?
Thanks for the awesome video. what's your opinion to use for my SSF Dell 9010 i7 3770 240 watt
GOD BLESS YOU, YOU DID THE BEAUTY FULL WAY, WANTED TO LEARN MORE AND MORE FROM YOU
So I got the 1650 but I keep looking things up and the more I do the more I find people saying “it won’t fit” and some other shit
Can I fit a normal 1050ti if I remove the PSU and leave it outside. Because I don't have a low profile one and I'm scared that it won't fit
Its really an issue of clearance with the cd drive and the hard drive cage in front of the GPU. The case is very limiting
@@RAVisuals I cleared the cage already but I think that it won't fit, maybe ill do a hole at the case or something lol
Thank you so much for this!🖤
No problem 😊
hello! I would like to install a graphics card model ASUS GTX 750 Ti on my 3020 SFF. Do I need to change any settings in the BIOS for the system to recognize the video card?
Oh my god thank you so much for this video! It was what I needed!!! Too bad you couldn't test the RX 6400 though!
2070 lp is much better.
@@johncollins5552 From my searching, it's more than double the price of the 6400 but not double as good. Did I miss something?
Lol, I was given the i7 version that was going to be sent to disposal from the IT guy at my old work . I love it for what it is, I've upgraded to 32GB RAM and a 1TB HDD, will grab a GTX 1650 low profile next. Awesome comparison, thanks for making this!
Right on!! what a gift haha
Hey man great video. So I just purchased this pc with hopes of running a smooth stream through it with a PS5. Which graphics card would you suggest?
does the pci x4 slot produce enough power to the 1050 or do you need to plug it in to the psu?
It has enough power for a 1050
I have a 1650 in my optiplex as a 2nd pc for game emulators. Maybe you should do some videos on emulators and roms
I used it as an emulator in the video! It was so fun!
Can you go up to ps3 and xbox 360?
Hello, I have a dell 9020 sff and moved the mobo into the m-atx case, can a normal model not LP, gtx 1050ti run a oem 255w psu? because I don't want to upgrade to a bigger psu
yes it can!
I've got an RX6400 in my 3010 (3rd gen I5) and apart from not being able to encode video, it works quite well -- in a single slot as well.
Will a GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6400 D6 Low Profile fit in a dell optiplex 3020 or do I have to mod the case?
What cpu was this? Because csgo is a very cpu dependent game and I know my laptop can run it better then that. Intergrated graphics has to be far worse then a 1050 ti
My question can I remove the motherboard and put on a bigger case can I still use a better GPU I'm currently using a GT710 which is pure shit,if I buy a psu and a new gpu(my gpu range is 1070 or 1650 can't afford anything better than that)and a case..I'm wondering if I'll run into problems if I do that...
is it possible to fit 1660 super into 9020 sff?
no. the 1660 super does not come in an LP version
@@RAVisuals ok nvm i bought 7040 mt with i7 6700 and 32gb ddr4 ram and put gtx 1660 super and a 500w psu in it, and i actually really like the way this pc can get so much fps for so cheap
This is the video I needed as I have a Dell SFF 7020 that I can get a Nvidia Ge-Force LF 1650 graphics card for a great price new! Looks like I won't have to cut the back of my PC to fit it now. lol And losing 10% seems like a good sacrifice and it should still run the arcade games I want to on my build.
I'm doing something similar and hoping to get all,the way to stuff like sf5
How do you make sure it will fit in before buying the Graphics card?
I had to measure it! haha
at the moment what's the best graphic cards that can fit in a optiplex 7010 sff? i was thinking for a rx580 but idk if it would fit
I believe its the 1650 low profile or the rx 550 low profile
Thanks for the great video! This might be a dumb question but does the MSI version of the 1650 and the Gigabyte version have different sizes? Like one won't fit in my 9020? or performance issues. Anyway great video.
You need to have an Optiplex MT to fit most graphics cards. If you have a sff you need a low profile card.
So a 1650 super want fit will it?
Nice, I got a GTX 1050 Ti for only £59.99 coming soon, very exited to play CS:GO with high FPS even when its 1080p!
How do I put in a graphics card and ram in my dell PC? I'm new to building pcs
i picked up a 3020 for 45 bucks and im very happy with it as im using it mostly as a media pc in my living room but i also want to get into modifying pc's and use this one as my labrat to experiment on since ive never opened a pc before. Gonna up the ram and maybe put a 1650 in if i can find one for a reasonable price
i picked up a 9020 for about 35 bucks with an i7 4790 its fast
@@randomgamingin144p am i7 that's a steal
@@j.rjunior5584 not really
Well these cards work if the computer has integrated graphics
Could the game play side by side for comparison
hi friend, I have a question pls…. I have same optiplex 9020 with 32GB ram, i7, 2t SSD, 240w power supply…. I want to know if I add the graphics card, will I be able to use (Davinci Resolve) to edit videos??
So I might be able to get an AMD FirePro W4100 for free. I know it's a bit on the bigger side, but do you think that would work with this one?
This VGA is really work with original power supply?
I also have optiplex 9020 mini, and I really want to add a VGA cart 4 GB.
Who is better? Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 or MSI GeForce GTX 1650 ?
They will basically be the same haha
@@RAVisuals GDDR6 not better?
i got a question what is the max amout of watts you can use for a gpu in one of these systems?
500 watts
So these gpu will work on the 250 w psu?
yes!
i just want to ask if i need to change my Power supply if i will upgrade to 1050 ti? mine is optiplex 3020
nope! the 1050ti is low powered enough for the stock psu
@@RAVisuals i also want to ask if 1650 Low profile is compatible? because now the 1050ti is not available in the PH
how about 1650 Low profile??
Do I specifically have to use a gtx 1650 low profile?
in this system, its the best in slot card that can fit
@@RAVisuals tysm
@RA Visuals will a RX 550 Half Height card fit and work in a dell OptiPlex 3020 sff ?
You have to get the "LP" or low profile versions to fit in this system
are these cards good for video editing with premiere pro? if so which would be recommended for the 9020?
They are good yes, the more budget you got the better gpu you can get, if you are gonna be using it only for premiere pro I suggest go for Quadro GPUs there are some cheap yet powerful but if you wanna game too then go for 6400 in budget or if you got cash go for rtx 4060 lp or 3060lp
Is a Dell OptiPlex 9020 MT i7-4790 3.6GHz 16GB RAM 500GB HDD for $250 a good deal I've been wanting to get a computer for a while and i don't really want to pay more than $350 and i was wondering if that's the best deal
Its an okay deal. You can get those for $200 usually but in the times were in now, that may be the going rate.
@@RAVisuals ok thanks that was the best deal i could find on eBay anyway and do u have any graphics cards that ur not using?
just pick up a 3020 for 60.00 and upgrade the cpu.
Did it come with a wifi card or you install one?
I had to install one but they're like 10 bucks on amazon
@@RAVisuals Thanks man. I got an old Optiplex 9020 SFF and wanna upgrade it now. But it looks like the maximum psu you can get for it is a 315 watts. Is that enough ya think, or does it need more juice?
Does this type of pc have special 24 pin powercabel?
No they use 6 or 10 or 8 pins to power motherboard and 4 pin to cpu
Hello there. can an i7 upgrade work with these 9020 Optiplex, i have 10 of these and so far at 20gb ram and 500gb hdd and OEM win 10 pro it works very good... i got you on not actually buying these. i didn't they were given to me. i got 6 working so far.
Yep! They can have i7's in them as well. I believe the 3770 or 4770 depending on what board you have in them
@@RAVisuals Great ! Thanks a million I will let you know how it goes. I truly Appreciate the response 👍
will the GTX 1650 S work in a 9020 SFF? Is it basically the same as the regular 1650?
How can the gpu work with the stock psu it’s only 255w 🤯
The LP gpu's don't require very much power
@@RAVisuals so even a gt 1030 that requires a 300w psu but has a tdp of 30w would that work?
@@plixrplays yes it would
Yes, the mini-towers any day over the SFF Optiplexes. 4 ram slots is also a must, 3.0 GPU slot, and on and on. SFF boxes were ok five years ago but we are now in 2023, and time to say goodbye to them for good unless all you do it email and listen to music and watch YT. No gaming on SFF in 2023.
Depends on the types of games. They are still great for emulation, and the form factor works well for TV setups.
I am gaming just fine on an SFF Optiplex 790 with a RX550, gets playable frames on War Thunder, World of Warships, etc.
I'm interested in putting an rx 550 2gb in my Dell optiplex 7020 SFF with an i-5 4590, it comes with a 255W psu. Would I need to upgrade the psu or is that enough for the 550?🤔
What is the best budget graphics card for the 3020 sff?
i bou9ght a 1050 for mine and i like it ok. thinking about getting a 1660 tho
how much spare wattage does the Dell 3010 have? Since its only 200W be default I am curious.
So what's the 4k movie playback like with these cards?
totally smooth!
Would i need to reapply thermal
only if you feel like it needs it!
Hey would the stock CPU in a Dell Optiplex 9020 sff bottleneck a 1650 LP?
Not at all! The i5 and i7s that come in the 9020 are great with a 1650
I have a Dell Optiplex 9010 SFF (3rd Gen i5 with 240W PSU) with Windows 7 Pro, may I know what graphics card can I buy for AutoCAD 2010 3D rendering?
Try one of the cards i used in this video!
@@RAVisuals Thanks but anyway I am trying the zotac gt1030 to take the risk.
i have a 9020 sff . i5 processor, 1050ti and 16gb Ram. Runs well. The only issue i have that i have not been able to figure out is my monitor will randomly disconnect and reconnect while using the video card. Doesnt happen with onboard video though. Other than that, its a decent cheap gaming pc. I run gta v, pubg, call of duty (mobile) as well as other games, and also Second Life.
dude can u please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
Is rx 6400 low profile compatible?
yes it is
I have a gtx750ti with my 3020sff. Will it fit in the top slot?
is that 750ti a low profile card? Single slot?
the 3020 sff doesn't have a second video card slot it only supports single slot cards which wont work with the 1050 ti or 1650 lp i dont think the 750ti would work unless you had a certain type
for people who don’t won’t to mod their case for that 10% performance just buy a 9010 and not every other one
You still have the problem of certain cards not fitting in the sff cases though
@@RAVisuals is true but most of the options should fit
please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
So I can use the 1660 in the dell optiplex 2090 without upgrading the psu?
I don't think so. I believe you need to upgrade the PSU for the 1660
@@RAVisuals the psu I have I think is 225 w and the 1660 is 125 I believe
Can this run a gtx 650 please respond thank you !
I have the 7010 sff would some of these gpu work with it?
Yes, I have the 7010 sff with a low profile Gigabyte GT 1030. I used to have a GTX 750ti inside it but I cooked it when I overclocked it too much.
Consider benchmarking some other great titles like, Tarkov and rust. They are 2 of my biggest games i play and im wondering if this sort of system could run both for my brother
Hi RA Visuals,According to the official dell optiplex sff manual models such 9020,7020 .. ...do not support more than 25W per PCI-e . You have real relevant practical experience in testing models with video cards requiring more than 25W , so you do not have power issues,don't you?
After my findings. 25w is more of a recommendation, as the standard for the pcie slot is actually 75w I believe. If you can sneak in a better psu (there's like one better, 315w iirc) then you should be able to push for higher cards with less stress
hey! will the A2000 fit my optiplex 3020? I5 SFF and would a power supply help?
It would fit. A2000 draws pretty low power for what it does.
Because of this video I built me a cheap gaming pc! Thank you
The 255 watt PSU this PC comes was okay with these graphics cards?
They only draw 75W max through the PCIe slot so yeah they're fine
@@coolunusual Thank you. 👍
Asus gt710 can fit in??
I just got mine and bought the Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ White Certified PSU.. I realized I made a mistake because the computer looks really small am I going to be able to put in the power supply?
You'll probably have to run the psu externally if it's a sff optiplex. They also sell 315w sff optiplex psus
I have a question, I have the optiplex 3020 model, can I install those graphics cards?
i believe 1650s would do, or 1050 ti since rx580 need more psu
im looking to upgrade the 180w psu inside my 7050 sff but I dont know if the power supplys Im looking at on amazon are compatible with any of these gpus (im new to pc gaming btw so I have very little idea what im doing).
I don't know if you're still looking to upgrade or not since it's been seven months, however, most of these power supplies should generally be compatible with these GPU's. Just make sure the power supply has enough wattage and power capacity to hold in the amount of power that it'll hold! 👍