Some important context for these benchmarks: The RX6400 is a Pcie x4 Gen 4 that’s probably running in the x16 Gen 3 slot. This probably results in a bit of a dip performance wise The RTX 3050 is a PCIE x8 card running in either Pcie 2 or 3 x4 slot. If @basicdadtech could provide insight over which gen pcie the x4 slot is that’d be helpful. In any case, the 3050 is being bottlenecked more than the 6400.
yeah this is weird, i feel like rx6400 should be the one that would bottlenecked alot here bcause its x4 connection. but then on the other hand despite it being outperformed by 6400, i dont think the 3050 is bottlenecked by much either when you look at the gpu percentage in this benchmark. and i already saw a couple benchmark for 3050 and one that i saw even has the card compared to 6500xt which is a more powerful card then 6400, and 3050 performed better if not the same to the 6500xt. its weird, i mean its supposed to perform around the same level as 1060...
@@ydnaivi9435 yeah, I mean we’re also dealing with a 4th gen intel cpu here and ddr3 ram, and while it wasn’t maxing the cpu out, there is something to be said about newer cpus providing better efficiencies and up to date tech. Those could also be bottlenecking the gpus in different ways. I’d love to see the 3050 on 8th or 10th intel and how it does. My RX6500 OEM LP is a good performer on 8th gen Intel. Nothing compared to even like… a 1650S super, but it gets the job done on my office PC. An old “game” but it can run Rocksmith 2014 Remastered all day at 1440p 165fps.
@@ydnaivi9435 I have a Dell Vostro 3681, it has an Intel Core i3 10105 with DDR4 RAM at 2666 MHz, I had a RX 6400 and now I have a RTX 3050 (which doesn't fit inside the case so I had to remove the GPU bracket and put the power supply outside of the case in order to make it fit). The thing is in this PC the RTX 3050 runs faster than RX 6400, I went from playing GTA Online on 1080p high to playing on 1440p very high.
@@ydnaivi9435 The cards are not running in Gen 3.0 16x but in 8x or 4x mode. Knowing Dell slot placement, the 16x slot is right along the side the PSU. Thus it can't be used with the double wide GTX 1050 or RTX 3050. He must be using the open ended 4x slot on the right of the 16x slot. Also uncertain if the 4X slot is electrically wired through the chipset or not so PCIE gen 2.0 4x speed is possible.
Hii, Just a quick question, SO i have a dell optiplex 7020 sff i5-4590, I just ordered myself an rx 550 lp like the one in the video, in the description says that its pcie 16x3.0 slot, and according to google my sff has a "Expansion: One half-height Gen3 PCIe x16 slot and one half-height Gen3 PCIe x1 slot", so do u know if there will be any problems with installing the new card?
My friend got a Dell Optiplex 5050 sff with i5 7600, I recommended the rx 6400 as it was the only one i could find locally that fits in this pc. I thought it would still suck, but i'm Glad to see it is actually the best card that can actually fit in that PC.
I put an rx 550 in one last year and have been quite happy with it's level of performance. Had I been aware of the WX 4100 I would have opted for that, because it looks to be 20-30% faster in terms of fps, for only an additional $20.
@@xxcrysad3000xx WX4100 is probably your best $50 choice-ish GPU right now. Nowhere near RX6400 quality but significant performance boost over GT 1030 and RX550.
I found one (9020) in some street trash outside our son's place. It was clean on the inside so I put in an SSD and it worked perfect. Just need a decent gpu.
@basicdadtech For your question: I used to use a GT710 DDR3 in my Futro S920 build (AMD GX-415GA), than upgraded to a GT1030 DDR4, than I upgrade to a Futro S940 (Pentium Silver J5005), and I will get eventually a GDDR5 GT1030 for it. Passive all the way, no HDD, no CPU fan, no GPU fan, just SSD and passive fan on both. The GDDR5 exists too as a passive. Love this tiny thing! Absolutely silent, that's why I try to keep with passive cooling on the GPU, and as far as I know, on the budget there is no other GPU than the 1030. (And the powersupply is max 60W, so gotta look out for the power usage too.)
What did you use your S920 for? I was trying emulation on an Futro S920 GX-415GA, was hoping for stable Dreamcast performance, but that didn't work (I was using a GT1030 DDR5). Integrated graphics are sufficient for everything up to 16-bit era, though.
@Zerzayar I used it with my TV in the livingroom, for browsing, youtube, watching movies from external drives, and some gaming, older titles, like Half Life 2, Portal 1-2, Far Cry 1, NfS:U1-2, and such.
Running RTX A2000 LP (6GB) that I got on Amazon (new old stock) for $250 (good luck finding that now). Love this card. No supplemental power, runs games very well and great render processing.
I own too and agree, just the fan seems not durable enough compared to regular gpu, or maybe I just out of luck. I bought 2 spare replacement just in case
I've got 2 old (dirt cheap) hp elitedesk 705 g2 sff, both with amd pro A8-8650B which my little kids use for Minecraft and lego games. The integrated gfx was struggling on some games. I recognise that the cpu is limited so no point going too high with gfx card as will bottleneck. Just ordered rx550 for one and Wx3100 for the other as figured the balance should be pretty much OK. Will see how it goes when they arrive. I won't lie, I'm more excited than the kids about the upgrade haha!
This was the video I was exactly looking for. I was undecided as to what low profile graphics I wanted to get and was stuck between the 6400 and 3050. After seeing your video I came to the conclusion I was looking for ! You saved me some money sir!
15:05 You'd think that a more expensive card would do better, but here we see the driver overhead that NVIDIA exacts, especially obvious on older / lower end CPUs. I'm guessing that's what we're seeing, because the 3050 looks better on paper.
Not "driver overhead" - Sub-system limitations in the system buss and the factory BIOS power limitation settings. These OEM systems were not designed and never intended to be used for gaming.
a GPU with a 6 pin connector will top the power consumption at 150w, but many of these GPUs will consume something in the order of 100 to 120w, they require the 6 pin connector since mobo will only provide 75w, but they do not max out the 6pin. for example... a MicroITX mobo with that i7 4790 + 16gb DDR3 (2x8gb 1.5v) + 1xSSD 500gb + 1xHDD 7200rpm 1TB + GTX1050 Ti will only require a 215w Psu... add 2 coolers to the mix and you have a 235w Power consumption if you could do a 90% CPU + 100% GPU usage at a given time, something not that realistic. Anyway, if you move to a DDR4 entry level platform (like an R5 1600 1st gen Ryzen), you could even get less power consumption since DDR4 uses less voltage than DDR3
@@jotabe1984 I have a Dell Vostro 3888 Mini Tower that has an i3 10100 and 2*8GB DDR4 RAMs with a SATA SSD. The PSU is 260 Watts 80+ Bronze, but has no 8 or 6 pin GPU connector. Can I install a low profile RTX 4060 using a SATA to 8 pin adapter cable? I believe drawing 40 watts off of a SATA cable won't put too much pressure on the cable, as it seems to be of high quality. I want to install the Gigabyte RTX 4060 8GB Low profile GPU with a TDP of 115W and requires 8 pin connector.
I have 5 sff Optiplexes (okay, technically one of them is the desktop case, but it's still low profile) - 2-3rd gen I5, 1-2nd gen I5, 1-2nd gen I7, and a core 2 duo. I did a very similar benchmark run as you did (but with Passmark Performance test, 3DMark, and Superposition) . The cards I used ranged from the mobo video (which was predictably horrible), 3 cards that actually were OEM from Dell (HD7570, R5 240, R7 250), GT 710 and 1030, Arc A380, RX6400, and RTX 3050-6. Most of the results matched what you got between the top 2 contenders - though I found the RX6400 tended to edge out the RTX on older benchmarks - though it was only moderately better on the Ray Tracing tests than the Arc A380. The A380, RX6400, and RTX 3050 were all purchased new on Amazon (as were the 2 GT cards) The rest were bought used (except for the R7-250 which I actually pulled from the Optiplex it was factory installed in). The 6400 and 3050 were very similarly priced, with the a380 being about $50 less. I also tested a Nvidia Quadro T400, which cost too much for what it was (a Lenovo OEM pull) and only performed marginally better than the 1030. By comparison, a full sized gtx1650 was a bit faster than all of them (ray tracing excepted of course) - I can't offer an opinion on the performance of a low profile version. Lastly, the RX6400 performs better in a more modern motherboard - but if you have the money for a more modern Optiplex, you probably won't have the money for the video card. Also, the 6400 has NO video encoders, so don't expect any decent game capturing with this card.
I've recently bought an optiplex 9020 sff with a core i5-4590. I'm doing research and I'm trying to find the best graphics card. Which one would you recomend for that? Right now I'm leaning towards the RTX 6400, RTX 3050, or the GTX 1650, which is recomended by someone else in the comments. Thanks
@@cristianarreola7246 It depends on what you want to do, and how much you want to spend. A RTX A2000 or RTX4060 would obviously be faster - but expect to pay for it. For more reasonable prices, you're better off with the GTX1650 - it's faster than the RTX3050-6 and the RX6400 (if that's a priority). If you're looking for ray tracing, you'll need the RTX3050-6 or RX6400 (yes the 6400 ray traces -- barely). I don't remember the slot arrangement on the 9020 - if the 16x slot doesn't allow you room for a double slot card, the RX6400 is your choice - just remember, Microsoft Game DVR will NOT work with it, you'll have to use something like OBS studio which will eat into your CPU cycles more. Unless you're planning to use the computer mainly for video processing I wouldn't bother with the A380, while it does support some very sophisticated video encoding abilities (and will ray trace) it's performance otherwise is very weak. That's pretty much it for the cards I've worked with...
@@littlewillie65 Thanks. I ordered a 1650 low profile. Is it plug and play, or do I need additional cables for power? It seems like I can just power it with the included power supply.
Something funny happened as I watched this. During the GTA5 benchmark UA-cam suddenly switched to an ad, but it bugged out and didn’t show the little ‘sponsored’ tag and the countdown timer. It was a travel resort ad on some beach that looked very similar to the GTA5 environments in that game. It switched so seamlessly it took me a moment to realize I wasn’t watching GTA5 anymore, and I thought ‘Wow I dont remember the game looking this good!’ 🤣
It is funny how sole & only reason for those GPUs to exist is to be for "upgrading old used Optiplex PCs" (or similar office PCs). I mean you are not gonna buy this card brand new if you are building new PC, as for the most part modern AMD APU would have similar or better performance. Also... it seems like all of those LP 1 or 2 slot cards with no additional power should all have blower cooler. Small Cards are made for small PCs and Blowers are superior when it comes to tiny cramped PC cases.
it is even funnier than most used low profile radeons on the market came out of those computers before they sold them to you, if you buying an used computer
Just bought the same Dell Optiplex for 250€. It provides 16GB or ram, a 4th gen i7, and a NVidia quadro able to output 4k at 60 fps. With LinuxMint debian edition and latest nvidia drivers, it's perfect to drive my TV set and watch youtube vidéos from my couch. I tried Fedora but because of Wayland, the video output is limited to 30 fps, so back to good old LMDE
Pcie gen3 will bottleneck a rx6400 by quite a bit due to only having 4x pcie lanes. My brother is using one in an old hp with a i7 7700. Most newer games won't run on it well at all.
Also I would look for the RTX 4060 LP, that's a good LP GPU. However, if that's too pricey, I would recommend looking at the Intel ARC a310, a350 or a380 LP cards.
Got my son a swift 105 6400xt a little while back, tried it in a 3050sff first and did ok but then switched it to his bros 3090 tower that's newer and it does pretty good. I have a rtx1660 super and it's close to being as good or better than mine especially in fortnite! COD my 1660super is better tho and the 6400xt can get loud and hot all the sudden sometimes and also had some weird driver issues when in the first optiplex.
One that may be overlooked is the Quadro T1000 4GB/8GB. They sometimes show up cheap (not on ebay though) and should be looked out for. They're basically a GTX1650 (almost) but single slot. I've had a few of them, some Dell cheap workstations came with the 8GB version and are immediately upgraded to more powerful pro cards so the cards are often sold off cheap on Facebook etc. Runs hotter than a 1650, heatsink/fan is tiny but it's enough and yeah, pretty much a GTX1650.
Today is kind of crazy. used parts market is so fair right now that you can build a monster machine for less than $700 USD, and an all purpose machine that will never have hiccups in work or gaming for less than $500
to me the best way to go in a MicroITX enviroment is to get a modest DDR4 CPU like an R5 1600af (of course in a microITX a320 mobo) w/stock cooler + 32gb (2x16 3200mhz) DDR4 RAM + NVME 500gb SSD + 1x1TB SATA3 SSD all of that leaves something in the order of 150 to 200w free psu juice for a dedicated GPU. None of these GPUs will be good enough for 1080p gaming, so mi go-to-solution would be to get a 1600x900 HDMI 19' display. The lower resolution will be partially compensated with the smaller screen size, and the GPUs will thank the 30% smaller resolution (that is a 30% improvement over 1080p results). Yet you can allways go with a 1080p screen and lower game resolution to 900p, that could still work
Is the motherboard model of this Dell optiplex 9020 the one where the Blue Pcie Slot is furthest from the power supply? I think there are two motherboard models for the Dell optiplex 9020 SFF, one model where the PCie slot is closer to the power supply, and another where it is further away, which allows the installation of more robust graphics cards. In the video, what would be the motherboard model where you ran the tests? Thank you very much.
There is a gtx 1650 single slot LP gpu by Yeston but it's very hard to find from where i came from... Intel arc A310 / A380 can be a good replacement if you want to use the pc for video editing
Great video but you forgot about the GTX 1650! It would slot right between the 1050Ti and the 3050. There is also the RTX 4070 LP too but that's expensive and too much card for the 4790
How in the world did you fit the 2 slot cards in the SFF? Really would have loved to see the installations as I know there is actually only space for a single slot GPU as the PCI-e slot is right at the bottom..
I've got a 7010 DT, the PCIe slot in the manual says it has a max power rating of 50 watts, but I've seen people running a 3050 in them. How is this possible when it requires 70 watts?
What pci slot did you put the gpu in? Is the power supply not stopping the dual cards being used in the x16 slot? If so and they are forced tonuse the x4 at pcie3 the 3050 can't stretch its legs. Do this test with the 3050 in x8 or x16 slot and there will be a much bigger difference. Pcie 4 even more so.
Good thing it's not a 3020. That has an H81 chipset and is limited to x1 at PCIe2 in the first slot. I used that for my SATA host adapter and it's not really even enough bandwidth for 2 ports. I'm only using one but I'm sure I'd see some bottlenecking if I were to attach two SSDs (I'm already seeing some). I guess it'd be fine for hard disks/DVDs but there are only so many that can fit in that tiny case. In order for the 3050 to fit in the x16 slot, he'd need to break it out with a ribbon cable and hang it outside the chassis. Surprised no one has made a 3D printer file for an extended height cover for just such a use case. That would solve that issue, and maybe allow for another fan and/or some drive bays. I guess given the 255W power supply, there isn't much hope for powering THAT much extra.
I have an HP Elitedesk 800 G1 Tower with an i7-4770. Although it's not SFF (it's big and there's loads of dead space), the layout and the PSU's lack of both wattage and connectors severely limit the GPU options. I have a GTX 1650 4GB DDR5 Low Profile (but with the full size bracket) in it. It's great for running low to mid emulation and older games, but is starting to struggle with or is completely unable to play some new ones, because of both the GPU and the CPU
I'm surprised the double slot cards fared as well as they did in the smaller PCIe slot. For a PC of that vintage were we talking PCIe gen 2 for both? Maybe gen 3 on the larger one? RX6400 still kicking butt for its size even in older systems though, it's "the little GPU that could" isn't it?
@Nutsandmilk123 maybe its also a WiFi issue you have, I have the same PC at my grandma's house, same specs with Windows 11, it runs 1080p UA-cam just fine.
Optiplex 9020 sff have 2 pcie 3.0 one only pcie 3.0 x4 (above, for 2 slot gpu) and one pcie 3.0 x16 at the bottom, only can loaded with 1 slot gpu so are there is no big lost in performance when we use rtx 3050 on pcie 3.0 x4?
Hey, a question. 😊 Do you know the case of the XC-605 from Acer? 😅 Does the RX6400 Low Profile / Single Slot fit in there, do you happen to know that? If the whole thing fits, I would want to put together a "mini PC" for gaming with this case and mainboard including I7 4790 / 16GB RAM. Don't play anything demanding, just Dbd & GTA5, so the performance would be enough for me. But I don't want to buy the card until I know whether it really fits. Request for feedback Greetings from Germany & sorry for my bad English, use a translator.
i have one of these but if anything i need it to have usb 3.0 a i'm looking to make mine just a streaming/ recording build and nothing more, what would be best for it. cheapest possible lol i'm tired of spending money on pc parts lol
how does the dual slot gpu fit in there? my optiplex has the gpu slot so far down, there's really not even one inch of space for the gpu.. and especially only one slot for the ports in the back
In my experience those double width cards are no good for a Dell optiplex SFF, or HP prodesk SFF due to the fact the PCIe slot is so close to the PSU. You have to use a single width card. So the RX6400 is the best option, or failing that a GTX 750 Ti.
There are a few things you're missing here. Performance isn't all just about "frames per second" when choosing a GPU to add to a prebuilt. It also depends on the type (generation) of CPU the system has, if the system is PCIe 2.0 or PCIe 3.0 because it will make a difference in the "bandwidth" your GPU runs on. Example; installing an RTX 3090ti in a system with a 4th Gen Intel CPU and Gen 3 PCIe. The CPU will never be able to keep up with the 3090ti and a major bottleneck will be obvious. The max PSU limit should also be considered. While most of the GPU's you tested are low power units the RX and RTX cards use considerably more power off the PCIe rail. Some OEM systems limit the max power the PCIe and memory sub-system can use and it's built into the system BIOS and can't be changed. If the RTX card requires 95 watts and the PCIe limit is only 75 watts then are you getting the best performance from that card? I doubt it. You're GPU bound and that will affect performance. Make sure you upgrade the system BIOS to the latest version available. Just though I'd add that.
My low profile collection in my GPU Cluster of Optiplex Small Form Factors are the GTX 1650, GTX 1630, GTX 1050 Ti, GTX 1050, GT 1030, RX 550, RX 6400, Arc A310, Quadro P620, RTX 3050 and RTX 4060
I have a GT 1030 2 GB DDR5 in my Emulation machine (Fujitsu C720, which has only one low profile single slot, i5-4690). It does it's job, but CRT shaders are problematic.
looking at the space in that case, I'd be concerned about using a dual slot card too long due to the potential for overheating with the lasck of airflow. The fans on the RTX 3050 would have to work very hard to try to make up for the limited air intake for them.
@@basicdadtech Well, i wanna play fortnite (low settings), Minecraft & Roblox at high Graphics settings. Also is the rx6400 a bottleneck for an i5 4570?
@@BBX_Playz Not a bottleneck. In some games it will actually be the opposite. Modern games can be quite CPU demanding. So I think 6400 is a good choice.
I ordered the rtx 3050 to try and it worked pretty well, but the fan noise was crazy trying to keep itself cool inside my sff dell. for the money to performance it kinda seems like the rx6400 is the winner. @BasicDadTech I really appreciate the comparison. Good content.
Im looking to Build a PC worth Runing Dragon Ball Sparking Zero on a Cheap price I'm not sure to get the RTX 3050 8GB or AMD 6600 the pc im planning on getting is a Dell Optiplex 9020 MT i7 4790 32GB RAM any tips on my plan
What i dont understand is why can a laptop have a smaller footprint gpu that is tiered above these, but these dont have that option. It should be straight forwards take the laptops gpu and put it in this form factor.
So here are a few issues I have ran into with this PC. I have a 7080 which is the same computer just newer. The main issue is that I bought an Intel ARC A380 which is a 6GB GDDR6 Dual slpt card. It uses resizable which the processor supports, however the Mobo does not. Also because ot the PSU the only PCI slot I could use was the x4 slot. Single slot cards that do not depend on Re-bar are what you need to use in these PC's. Otherwise the GPU will not perform that well. Just figured I would put that out there.
Bought a couple of low profile cards recently, an RX550X (HP OEM) and a Gigabyte GT1030 (DDR5). I tried putting the RX550X in my Lenovo M720q but was way too hot, the only way it'd work was by lowering the core clock to 600Mhz lol, I removed it and put it in my Dell Optiplex 3070 SFF. The GT1030 isn't here yet but should run cooler and I can use the "nvidia-smi" commands to tame it a little.
Hi guys, here’s the deal: Dell Optiplex SFF 7060 I7 8700, 16GB RAM. Pair it with a RX 6400 LP or a RTX 3050 LP?. Note: the 3050 doesn’t fit well on the Optiplex already mentioned it, thanks and have a good day.
there is actually an SFF variant of the Gigabyte RTX 4060, and it beats the 3050 in benchmarks, but the only downside is the 6 pin PSU cable for the GPU, so you have to upgrade the power supply which might not work for some special SFF Dells due to the proprietary cables.
If the power supply has the wattage (say 300W+) but not the 6 pin cable, you can get by with a SATA power to 6 pin adapter. It works fine on my Optiplex
Loved this. I appreciate low end gaming and preventing ewaste by simple upgrades to computers.
Just in time I am doing a optiplex build and been looking on eBay for low pro gpus. Thanks for this!
Some important context for these benchmarks:
The RX6400 is a Pcie x4 Gen 4 that’s probably running in the x16 Gen 3 slot. This probably results in a bit of a dip performance wise
The RTX 3050 is a PCIE x8 card running in either Pcie 2 or 3 x4 slot. If @basicdadtech could provide insight over which gen pcie the x4 slot is that’d be helpful. In any case, the 3050 is being bottlenecked more than the 6400.
yeah this is weird, i feel like rx6400 should be the one that would bottlenecked alot here bcause its x4 connection. but then on the other hand despite it being outperformed by 6400, i dont think the 3050 is bottlenecked by much either when you look at the gpu percentage in this benchmark. and i already saw a couple benchmark for 3050 and one that i saw even has the card compared to 6500xt which is a more powerful card then 6400, and 3050 performed better if not the same to the 6500xt. its weird, i mean its supposed to perform around the same level as 1060...
@@ydnaivi9435 yeah, I mean we’re also dealing with a 4th gen intel cpu here and ddr3 ram, and while it wasn’t maxing the cpu out, there is something to be said about newer cpus providing better efficiencies and up to date tech. Those could also be bottlenecking the gpus in different ways. I’d love to see the 3050 on 8th or 10th intel and how it does.
My RX6500 OEM LP is a good performer on 8th gen Intel. Nothing compared to even like… a 1650S super, but it gets the job done on my office PC. An old “game” but it can run Rocksmith 2014 Remastered all day at 1440p 165fps.
@@ydnaivi9435 I have a Dell Vostro 3681, it has an Intel Core i3 10105 with DDR4 RAM at 2666 MHz, I had a RX 6400 and now I have a RTX 3050 (which doesn't fit inside the case so I had to remove the GPU bracket and put the power supply outside of the case in order to make it fit). The thing is in this PC the RTX 3050 runs faster than RX 6400, I went from playing GTA Online on 1080p high to playing on 1440p very high.
@@ydnaivi9435 The cards are not running in Gen 3.0 16x but in 8x or 4x mode. Knowing Dell slot placement, the 16x slot is right along the side the PSU. Thus it can't be used with the double wide GTX 1050 or RTX 3050. He must be using the open ended 4x slot on the right of the 16x slot. Also uncertain if the 4X slot is electrically wired through the chipset or not so PCIE gen 2.0 4x speed is possible.
Hii, Just a quick question, SO i have a dell optiplex 7020 sff i5-4590, I just ordered myself an rx 550 lp like the one in the video, in the description says that its pcie 16x3.0 slot, and according to google my sff has a "Expansion: One half-height Gen3 PCIe x16 slot and one half-height Gen3 PCIe x1 slot", so do u know if there will be any problems with installing the new card?
My friend got a Dell Optiplex 5050 sff with i5 7600, I recommended the rx 6400 as it was the only one i could find locally that fits in this pc. I thought it would still suck, but i'm Glad to see it is actually the best card that can actually fit in that PC.
i got a 3050 low profile for my dell optiplex 9020 sff
I am using a RX 6400 in a Dell SFF with an I5 and 16g of ram and it works well for what I play which is older games. Great bang for the buck!
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is lack of REBAR hurting your performance or have you done a UEFI hack to fix it?
@@SeeJayPlayGamesReBAR is not the issue, it's PCIe 3.0.
Should spend $20 for a xeon 1241 v3
I put an rx 550 in one last year and have been quite happy with it's level of performance. Had I been aware of the WX 4100 I would have opted for that, because it looks to be 20-30% faster in terms of fps, for only an additional $20.
@@xxcrysad3000xx WX4100 is probably your best $50 choice-ish GPU right now. Nowhere near RX6400 quality but significant performance boost over GT 1030 and RX550.
I found one (9020) in some street trash outside our son's place. It was clean on the inside so I put in an SSD and it worked perfect. Just need a decent gpu.
@basicdadtech For your question: I used to use a GT710 DDR3 in my Futro S920 build (AMD GX-415GA), than upgraded to a GT1030 DDR4,
than I upgrade to a Futro S940 (Pentium Silver J5005), and I will get eventually a GDDR5 GT1030 for it.
Passive all the way, no HDD, no CPU fan, no GPU fan, just SSD and passive fan on both. The GDDR5 exists too as a passive.
Love this tiny thing! Absolutely silent, that's why I try to keep with passive cooling on the GPU, and as far as I know, on the budget there is no other GPU than the 1030. (And the powersupply is max 60W, so gotta look out for the power usage too.)
What did you use your S920 for? I was trying emulation on an Futro S920 GX-415GA, was hoping for stable Dreamcast performance, but that didn't work (I was using a GT1030 DDR5). Integrated graphics are sufficient for everything up to 16-bit era, though.
@Zerzayar I used it with my TV in the livingroom, for browsing, youtube, watching movies from external drives, and some gaming, older titles, like Half Life 2, Portal 1-2, Far Cry 1, NfS:U1-2, and such.
I've built a couple of SFF builds and by far, the GTX 1650 (GDDR6 variant) always crushed cost to performance vs a 6400 and 3050 (lol)
Meta Oculus specifically excludes support for the GTX 1650 while it supports the RX 6400 and RTX 3050.
For me is rtx 4060 lp or bust!
@@ultimatopology2075can any of these pump the frames needed for VR tho?
@@ultimatopology2075 is this actually true? i used my 1650 for airlink and virtual desktop with no compatability issues idk abt that
@@Wahinies youd be surprised lol somehow my 1650 could run bonelab/boneworks fine (on low ofc) but very playable framerates never below 72
Running RTX A2000 LP (6GB) that I got on Amazon (new old stock) for $250 (good luck finding that now). Love this card. No supplemental power, runs games very well and great render processing.
I own too and agree, just the fan seems not durable enough compared to regular gpu, or maybe I just out of luck. I bought 2 spare replacement just in case
@@ihendrawijaya sorry to hear you got a bunk fan. No issues on mine.
there is one for 200£ in fb market place 12gb model
@@ourchickenI would snatch that and resell it if you're not in need of it if you wanna turn a nice profit tbh
@@coolunusual it's gone but Rx 5600xt for 100 which is firr
I've got 2 old (dirt cheap) hp elitedesk 705 g2 sff, both with amd pro A8-8650B which my little kids use for Minecraft and lego games. The integrated gfx was struggling on some games. I recognise that the cpu is limited so no point going too high with gfx card as will bottleneck. Just ordered rx550 for one and Wx3100 for the other as figured the balance should be pretty much OK. Will see how it goes when they arrive. I won't lie, I'm more excited than the kids about the upgrade haha!
It really is fun pushin the limits of free/ old tech lying around especially for the kids in your life!
This was the video I was exactly looking for. I was undecided as to what low profile graphics I wanted to get and was stuck between the 6400 and 3050. After seeing your video I came to the conclusion I was looking for ! You saved me some money sir!
Which one did you end up picking up?
15:05 You'd think that a more expensive card would do better, but here we see the driver overhead that NVIDIA exacts, especially obvious on older / lower end CPUs. I'm guessing that's what we're seeing, because the 3050 looks better on paper.
Not "driver overhead" - Sub-system limitations in the system buss and the factory BIOS power limitation settings. These OEM systems were not designed and never intended to be used for gaming.
Im debating between the 6400 and 3050 for my i5 8400 dell optiplex for upscaled ps2 emulation. I would love to see a emulation video with these cards
it's surprising that the 255w psu on those optiplex sff have the juice to power all those gpu
a GPU with a 6 pin connector will top the power consumption at 150w, but many of these GPUs will consume something in the order of 100 to 120w, they require the 6 pin connector since mobo will only provide 75w, but they do not max out the 6pin.
for example... a MicroITX mobo with that i7 4790 + 16gb DDR3 (2x8gb 1.5v) + 1xSSD 500gb + 1xHDD 7200rpm 1TB + GTX1050 Ti will only require a 215w Psu... add 2 coolers to the mix and you have a 235w Power consumption if you could do a 90% CPU + 100% GPU usage at a given time, something not that realistic.
Anyway, if you move to a DDR4 entry level platform (like an R5 1600 1st gen Ryzen), you could even get less power consumption since DDR4 uses less voltage than DDR3
@@jotabe1984 I have a Dell Vostro 3888 Mini Tower that has an i3 10100 and 2*8GB DDR4 RAMs with a SATA SSD. The PSU is 260 Watts 80+ Bronze, but has no 8 or 6 pin GPU connector. Can I install a low profile RTX 4060 using a SATA to 8 pin adapter cable? I believe drawing 40 watts off of a SATA cable won't put too much pressure on the cable, as it seems to be of high quality.
I want to install the Gigabyte RTX 4060 8GB Low profile GPU with a TDP of 115W and requires 8 pin connector.
Best comment and great response by @jotabe1984.
Underrated cheap card is the low profile arc a380
Plus good video encoding
I'm actually more surprised by how incredible forza can look even on low
Its crazy how low settings is no longer horrible anymore XD
I have 5 sff Optiplexes (okay, technically one of them is the desktop case, but it's still low profile) - 2-3rd gen I5, 1-2nd gen I5, 1-2nd gen I7, and a core 2 duo. I did a very similar benchmark run as you did (but with Passmark Performance test, 3DMark, and Superposition) . The cards I used ranged from the mobo video (which was predictably horrible), 3 cards that actually were OEM from Dell (HD7570, R5 240, R7 250), GT 710 and 1030, Arc A380, RX6400, and RTX 3050-6. Most of the results matched what you got between the top 2 contenders - though I found the RX6400 tended to edge out the RTX on older benchmarks - though it was only moderately better on the Ray Tracing tests than the Arc A380.
The A380, RX6400, and RTX 3050 were all purchased new on Amazon (as were the 2 GT cards) The rest were bought used (except for the R7-250 which I actually pulled from the Optiplex it was factory installed in). The 6400 and 3050 were very similarly priced, with the a380 being about $50 less. I also tested a Nvidia Quadro T400, which cost too much for what it was (a Lenovo OEM pull) and only performed marginally better than the 1030.
By comparison, a full sized gtx1650 was a bit faster than all of them (ray tracing excepted of course) - I can't offer an opinion on the performance of a low profile version.
Lastly, the RX6400 performs better in a more modern motherboard - but if you have the money for a more modern Optiplex, you probably won't have the money for the video card. Also, the 6400 has NO video encoders, so don't expect any decent game capturing with this card.
By game capturing u mean like game recording ?
@@whatsmyname2598 The Microsoft Game DVR won't work at all - OBS will, but it doesn't do very well - I get better results from my 5105 mini-pc...
I've recently bought an optiplex 9020 sff with a core i5-4590. I'm doing research and I'm trying to find the best graphics card. Which one would you recomend for that?
Right now I'm leaning towards the RTX 6400, RTX 3050, or the GTX 1650, which is recomended by someone else in the comments.
Thanks
@@cristianarreola7246 It depends on what you want to do, and how much you want to spend. A RTX A2000 or RTX4060 would obviously be faster - but expect to pay for it. For more reasonable prices, you're better off with the GTX1650 - it's faster than the RTX3050-6 and the RX6400 (if that's a priority). If you're looking for ray tracing, you'll need the RTX3050-6 or RX6400 (yes the 6400 ray traces -- barely). I don't remember the slot arrangement on the 9020 - if the 16x slot doesn't allow you room for a double slot card, the RX6400 is your choice - just remember, Microsoft Game DVR will NOT work with it, you'll have to use something like OBS studio which will eat into your CPU cycles more. Unless you're planning to use the computer mainly for video processing I wouldn't bother with the A380, while it does support some very sophisticated video encoding abilities (and will ray trace) it's performance otherwise is very weak. That's pretty much it for the cards I've worked with...
@@littlewillie65 Thanks. I ordered a 1650 low profile. Is it plug and play, or do I need additional cables for power?
It seems like I can just power it with the included power supply.
Something funny happened as I watched this. During the GTA5 benchmark UA-cam suddenly switched to an ad, but it bugged out and didn’t show the little ‘sponsored’ tag and the countdown timer. It was a travel resort ad on some beach that looked very similar to the GTA5 environments in that game. It switched so seamlessly it took me a moment to realize I wasn’t watching GTA5 anymore, and I thought ‘Wow I dont remember the game looking this good!’ 🤣
Are you still using the same power supply? Which slot did you install the card in? Does it require the 6 pin connector?
It is funny how sole & only reason for those GPUs to exist is to be for "upgrading old used Optiplex PCs" (or similar office PCs). I mean you are not gonna buy this card brand new if you are building new PC, as for the most part modern AMD APU would have similar or better performance. Also... it seems like all of those LP 1 or 2 slot cards with no additional power should all have blower cooler. Small Cards are made for small PCs and Blowers are superior when it comes to tiny cramped PC cases.
it is even funnier than most used low profile radeons on the market came out of those computers before they sold them to you, if you buying an used computer
Man I just asked you about this😂👌 brilliant thanks for this video to explain what people should be looking for👊
@Kenny-tx5ps hope it helps 👍
Just bought the same Dell Optiplex for 250€. It provides 16GB or ram, a 4th gen i7, and a NVidia quadro able to output 4k at 60 fps. With LinuxMint debian edition and latest nvidia drivers, it's perfect to drive my TV set and watch youtube vidéos from my couch. I tried Fedora but because of Wayland, the video output is limited to 30 fps, so back to good old LMDE
Love low pro gpus, 1650 and the a2000 are also solid choices if u can get them for a good deal
That 3050 was way too close to 6400, are you sure it wasn't thermal throttling, or power throttling, it some such somesuchery?
RX-550 in a Dell Optiplex 7060 myself. i5-8500 w/32GB RAM. I'm drooling for an RX-6400.
There is always Affirm payments.
I love my 6400 with a i7 8700.... right in my sweet spot for 1080p and emulation
Pcie gen3 will bottleneck a rx6400 by quite a bit due to only having 4x pcie lanes. My brother is using one in an old hp with a i7 7700. Most newer games won't run on it well at all.
Also I would look for the RTX 4060 LP, that's a good LP GPU. However, if that's too pricey, I would recommend looking at the Intel ARC a310, a350 or a380 LP cards.
@@FilthEffectwouldn't the bottleneck be due to the fact that it's gen 3, because I'm pretty sure it's a single slot that can go in the x16 slot
Great video thanks. I’m running x3 optiplex SFF for my kids and looking for an upgrade to the 1050ti
Got my son a swift 105 6400xt a little while back, tried it in a 3050sff first and did ok but then switched it to his bros 3090 tower that's newer and it does pretty good. I have a rtx1660 super and it's close to being as good or better than mine especially in fortnite!
COD my 1660super is better tho and the 6400xt can get loud and hot all the sudden sometimes and also had some weird driver issues when in the first optiplex.
One that may be overlooked is the Quadro T1000 4GB/8GB. They sometimes show up cheap (not on ebay though) and should be looked out for. They're basically a GTX1650 (almost) but single slot.
I've had a few of them, some Dell cheap workstations came with the 8GB version and are immediately upgraded to more powerful pro cards so the cards are often sold off cheap on Facebook etc. Runs hotter than a 1650, heatsink/fan is tiny but it's enough and yeah, pretty much a GTX1650.
Sorry - maybe im missing something but, how are you fitting a double thickness low profile card in that optiplex??
Today is kind of crazy. used parts market is so fair right now that you can build a monster machine for less than $700 USD, and an all purpose machine that will never have hiccups in work or gaming for less than $500
to me the best way to go in a MicroITX enviroment is to get a modest DDR4 CPU like an R5 1600af (of course in a microITX a320 mobo) w/stock cooler + 32gb (2x16 3200mhz) DDR4 RAM + NVME 500gb SSD + 1x1TB SATA3 SSD
all of that leaves something in the order of 150 to 200w free psu juice for a dedicated GPU.
None of these GPUs will be good enough for 1080p gaming, so mi go-to-solution would be to get a 1600x900 HDMI 19' display. The lower resolution will be partially compensated with the smaller screen size, and the GPUs will thank the 30% smaller resolution (that is a 30% improvement over 1080p results).
Yet you can allways go with a 1080p screen and lower game resolution to 900p, that could still work
Is the motherboard model of this Dell optiplex 9020 the one where the Blue Pcie Slot is furthest from the power supply? I think there are two motherboard models for the Dell optiplex 9020 SFF, one model where the PCie slot is closer to the power supply, and another where it is further away, which allows the installation of more robust graphics cards.
In the video, what would be the motherboard model where you ran the tests? Thank you very much.
Was there any difficulty in placing the gpu cards into the sff build? Some sff, (ie dell opti 3050 sff) can only take single slot cards.
What was the PSU configs for that machine and the max power consumption of each card? nice video 😀
There is a gtx 1650 single slot LP gpu by Yeston but it's very hard to find from where i came from... Intel arc A310 / A380 can be a good replacement if you want to use the pc for video editing
$199 on Amazon (and NewEgg for that matter). $188 at AliExpress. I guess you're not from the USA.
RTX 3050 is now available as a single slot.
@@TaguroSuper yes, the Yeston 3050 6gb LP. But it is not sold in my area.
Great video but you forgot about the GTX 1650! It would slot right between the 1050Ti and the 3050. There is also the RTX 4070 LP too but that's expensive and too much card for the 4790
What about the arc a310/350?
did you upgrade the PSU to a more powerful one, since the original PSU is only 255 watts?
Hey my friend how did you fit the 1050 gtx ti in the sff case because mine won’t fit
can the RTX 3050 6gb fit one single slot, my case's gpu slot looks pretty small, I got the SFF Dell Optiplex 7060
Its a dual but it should fit. However its going only fit in the x4 slot unless you get a riser
OMG W VIDEO THANKS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
am so confused how did you manage to use the 2 slot cards i thought those dont work on the dells sinces its half a slot could you answer this for me?
Could the reason be for the close scores between the 3050 and the 6400 be due to the CPU? Curious how these GPU’s would perform on an 8th gen i7.
How in the world did you fit the 2 slot cards in the SFF? Really would have loved to see the installations as I know there is actually only space for a single slot GPU as the PCI-e slot is right at the bottom..
The 2 slot cards you can install in the short slot. Will lose a little performance though.
@@basicdadtech I see, thanks for replying, means a lot!
I've got a 7010 DT, the PCIe slot in the manual says it has a max power rating of 50 watts, but I've seen people running a 3050 in them. How is this possible when it requires 70 watts?
hello i have a dell inspiron 3471 would any of them work on my pc, great video.
What pci slot did you put the gpu in? Is the power supply not stopping the dual cards being used in the x16 slot? If so and they are forced tonuse the x4 at pcie3 the 3050 can't stretch its legs. Do this test with the 3050 in x8 or x16 slot and there will be a much bigger difference. Pcie 4 even more so.
Good thing it's not a 3020. That has an H81 chipset and is limited to x1 at PCIe2 in the first slot. I used that for my SATA host adapter and it's not really even enough bandwidth for 2 ports. I'm only using one but I'm sure I'd see some bottlenecking if I were to attach two SSDs (I'm already seeing some). I guess it'd be fine for hard disks/DVDs but there are only so many that can fit in that tiny case. In order for the 3050 to fit in the x16 slot, he'd need to break it out with a ribbon cable and hang it outside the chassis. Surprised no one has made a 3D printer file for an extended height cover for just such a use case. That would solve that issue, and maybe allow for another fan and/or some drive bays. I guess given the 255W power supply, there isn't much hope for powering THAT much extra.
The new RTX3050 6GB card literally sells today for maybe $30 more than a GTX 1650 gb as far as motherboard powered chips go. 😳
the 1650's need to drop in price by a lot. They're overpriced in the used market by about double what they should be; they should be sub $100
@@SeeJayPlayGames 100% agree
I have an HP Elitedesk 800 G1 Tower with an i7-4770. Although it's not SFF (it's big and there's loads of dead space), the layout and the PSU's lack of both wattage and connectors severely limit the GPU options. I have a GTX 1650 4GB DDR5 Low Profile (but with the full size bracket) in it. It's great for running low to mid emulation and older games, but is starting to struggle with or is completely unable to play some new ones, because of both the GPU and the CPU
I'm surprised the double slot cards fared as well as they did in the smaller PCIe slot. For a PC of that vintage were we talking PCIe gen 2 for both? Maybe gen 3 on the larger one? RX6400 still kicking butt for its size even in older systems though, it's "the little GPU that could" isn't it?
I'm using a R7 450 4GB in my main PC and a R5 430 2GB in my spare PC.
I have the R5 430 in my optiplex 7010 i7-3770 16gb and it can barely play 1080p youtube smoothly
@Nutsandmilk123 maybe its also a WiFi issue you have, I have the same PC at my grandma's house, same specs with Windows 11, it runs 1080p UA-cam just fine.
Will a rx 480 low pfp will fit in a dell optiplex?
Will any of these cards work in the 3080 Optiplex? I am building one right now and looking for a GPU for it.
Which card did you/client choose and what was the final charge for the computer?😢
Rtx4060 LP did not fit into the casing?
its watts
Tysm for the video!!
Hello! Is the "Gigabyte GTX 750Ti 2GB low profile" card compatible with the Optiplex 9020 SFF computer tower?🤔
Yeah. That should work.
@basicdadtech Thanks! :)
What gpu do you think would be best for editing on premier pro?
Hi, for rtx 3050, mini case power is enough, because it should be 450 watts in graphics specifications /por favor contesten porque quiero comprar
your dell optiplex have dedicated gpu slot? what is the specs of pcie lanes?
Optiplex 9020 sff have 2 pcie 3.0
one only pcie 3.0 x4 (above, for 2 slot gpu)
and one pcie 3.0 x16 at the bottom, only can loaded with 1 slot gpu
so are there is no big lost in performance when we use rtx 3050 on pcie 3.0 x4?
can i know what is the best graphic card for optiplex 3020 i3-4150 CPU
One question, were those video cards tested with a generic 240W power supply?
Yes it was.
@basicdadtech 🙂👍
What is best for running black ops 6
can i install Quadro p600 2G for this SFF?
Hey, a question. 😊
Do you know the case of the XC-605 from Acer? 😅
Does the RX6400 Low Profile / Single Slot fit in there, do you happen to know that?
If the whole thing fits, I would want to put together a "mini PC" for gaming with this case and mainboard including I7 4790 / 16GB RAM. Don't play anything demanding, just Dbd & GTA5, so the performance would be enough for me. But I don't want to buy the card until I know whether it really fits.
Request for feedback
Greetings from Germany & sorry for my bad English, use a translator.
Hi. Sorry I haven’t used that case.
@@basicdadtechOkay, no Problem. Thank you
I've hp 800 g1 and gtx 1050ti any good for gaming or I should upgrade
i have one of these but if anything i need it to have usb 3.0 a i'm looking to make mine just a streaming/ recording build and nothing more, what would be best for it. cheapest possible lol i'm tired of spending money on pc parts lol
how does the dual slot gpu fit in there? my optiplex has the gpu slot so far down, there's really not even one inch of space for the gpu.. and especially only one slot for the ports in the back
You can use the shorter slot for the dual slot cards.
Hi again, just wondering do you use OBS to record gameplay or do you just have a game capture card for that?.
I use a separate PC with Elgato.
What can work in a optiplex 755?
In my experience those double width cards are no good for a Dell optiplex SFF, or HP prodesk SFF due to the fact the PCIe slot is so close to the PSU. You have to use a single width card. So the RX6400 is the best option, or failing that a GTX 750 Ti.
There are a few things you're missing here. Performance isn't all just about "frames per second" when choosing a GPU to add to a prebuilt. It also depends on the type (generation) of CPU the system has, if the system is PCIe 2.0 or PCIe 3.0 because it will make a difference in the "bandwidth" your GPU runs on. Example; installing an RTX 3090ti in a system with a 4th Gen Intel CPU and Gen 3 PCIe. The CPU will never be able to keep up with the 3090ti and a major bottleneck will be obvious. The max PSU limit should also be considered. While most of the GPU's you tested are low power units the RX and RTX cards use considerably more power off the PCIe rail. Some OEM systems limit the max power the PCIe and memory sub-system can use and it's built into the system BIOS and can't be changed. If the RTX card requires 95 watts and the PCIe limit is only 75 watts then are you getting the best performance from that card? I doubt it. You're GPU bound and that will affect performance. Make sure you upgrade the system BIOS to the latest version available. Just though I'd add that.
If you are going for fps per dollar in used market gtx 1050ti can be obtained for around 35 to 30€ atleast on my country second hand market
Can i use a 1660 6gb windforce in a optiplex 3060 i5 8th gen will it run good on fortnite and forza?
Is compatible with Rx 6500 xt?
is it fit into Dell OptiPlex 5055/5050?
THANK YOU! for this vid I am currently wondering what the heck I can squeeze in my Optiplex 7040 lol.
Did you ever put something in there ?
i have a 7010 sff i was wondering if you had an old gpu you're not using anymore that i could have.
My low profile collection in my GPU Cluster of Optiplex Small Form Factors are the GTX 1650, GTX 1630, GTX 1050 Ti, GTX 1050, GT 1030, RX 550, RX 6400, Arc A310, Quadro P620, RTX 3050 and RTX 4060
Opinion on Intel Arc A310?
Another option if you can find one, an RX 460 4GB LP from MSI, if the price is right of course, and then there's the Arc A380 too
I have a GT 1030 2 GB DDR5 in my Emulation machine (Fujitsu C720, which has only one low profile single slot, i5-4690). It does it's job, but CRT shaders are problematic.
Does any of these have analog support?
looking at the space in that case, I'd be concerned about using a dual slot card too long due to the potential for overheating with the lasck of airflow. The fans on the RTX 3050 would have to work very hard to try to make up for the limited air intake for them.
I agree with you. The RTX 3050 got loud on some games.
if dell had a brain cell, they would have made the gpu slot the upper of the two slots.. but its dell..
Is the RX 6400 Good for an i5 4570?
ItzBBX_Playz depends what kinda games you want to play. But I think overall it’s a good option.
@@basicdadtech Well, i wanna play fortnite (low settings), Minecraft & Roblox at high Graphics settings. Also is the rx6400 a bottleneck for an i5 4570?
@@BBX_Playz Not a bottleneck. In some games it will actually be the opposite. Modern games can be quite CPU demanding. So I think 6400 is a good choice.
@@thetechdog Okay good to Know Thanks!
you can get an i7 4790 or its Xeon equivalent (E3-1240 v3 or better) for about $30-50
I ordered the rtx 3050 to try and it worked pretty well, but the fan noise was crazy trying to keep itself cool inside my sff dell. for the money to performance it kinda seems like the rx6400 is the winner.
@BasicDadTech I really appreciate the comparison. Good content.
Im looking to Build a PC worth Runing Dragon Ball Sparking Zero on a Cheap price I'm not sure to get the
RTX 3050 8GB or AMD 6600
the pc im planning on getting is a Dell Optiplex 9020 MT i7 4790 32GB RAM any tips on my plan
Wont they overheat in the box?
What i dont understand is why can a laptop have a smaller footprint gpu that is tiered above these, but these dont have that option. It should be straight forwards take the laptops gpu and put it in this form factor.
So here are a few issues I have ran into with this PC. I have a 7080 which is the same computer just newer. The main issue is that I bought an Intel ARC A380 which is a 6GB GDDR6 Dual slpt card. It uses resizable which the processor supports, however the Mobo does not. Also because ot the PSU the only PCI slot I could use was the x4 slot. Single slot cards that do not depend on Re-bar are what you need to use in these PC's. Otherwise the GPU will not perform that well. Just figured I would put that out there.
I have read about that as well. I think you need 10th gen Intel or more for those cards.
Bought a couple of low profile cards recently, an RX550X (HP OEM) and a Gigabyte GT1030 (DDR5). I tried putting the RX550X in my Lenovo M720q but was way too hot, the only way it'd work was by lowering the core clock to 600Mhz lol, I removed it and put it in my Dell Optiplex 3070 SFF. The GT1030 isn't here yet but should run cooler and I can use the "nvidia-smi" commands to tame it a little.
Hi guys, here’s the deal:
Dell Optiplex SFF 7060 I7 8700, 16GB RAM.
Pair it with a RX 6400 LP or a RTX 3050 LP?.
Note: the 3050 doesn’t fit well on the Optiplex already mentioned it, thanks and have a good day.
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Hi, im planning to buy rx550 or gt1030. Which should i buy? My main purpose is to play ps2 games on batocera
RX 550
there is actually an SFF variant of the Gigabyte RTX 4060, and it beats the 3050 in benchmarks, but the only downside is the 6 pin PSU cable for the GPU, so you have to upgrade the power supply which might not work for some special SFF Dells due to the proprietary cables.
If the power supply has the wattage (say 300W+) but not the 6 pin cable, you can get by with a SATA power to 6 pin adapter. It works fine on my Optiplex
interesting video, i was expecting to see more from the rtx, i have a 6400 and thinking on a upgrade but no such thing from it it seems
My sff psu is 180w can I install GPU with this psu ?
Do any of these cards require a power connection and is the PSU strong enough to handle them or did you have to upgrade the PSU?
These cards don’t need additional power connector, they draw max 75 watts which is in the limit of the PCie connection
@@PhLo93 Thank you for the info.
@Zaxbox yeah. No need for additional power with these.
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