Lawyer Reacts Depp v. Heard. Netflix & The Insurance Lawsuits. The Emily Show Ep. 211
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02:12 The Netflix Documentary
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The trial that we couldn’t stop talking about and the documentary no one asked for. The Depp v. Heard trial is long over at this point, the appeals settled, and Amber Heard paid Johnny Depp a million dollars to resolve the over 8 million judgment against her. But while the trial is over, the fight over who is paying for Heard’s lawyers is ongoing, kind of. Today I break it all down. Let’s chat.
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You mentioned cameras in courts...Stewart Hicks addressed, " How Courtroom Layouts Are Biased" as a curious structural design approach, too.
Hi Emily, would you consider getting together with the other content creators, and taking group legal action over the documentary makers using your content without permission??
I would consider getting together with other content creators and seek a lawsuit.
I watched it last night and was shocked within 10 minutes. I watched the trial with you, we saw what happened. In my opinion the makers of this documentary wanted a different outcome to the trial and tried to frame it as the jury was wrong. I also came way with the opinion that they really really want to people to believe the mainstream media over alternative sources. Don’t believe what you actually saw, believe us Amber is a victim. As an actual survivor of DV & SA that is disgusting!
Thank you for saving me hours of wasted time I'd never get back and probably anger over this. I knew I wasn't going to watch it as I had a sense of where this would head. I hope Netflix suffers some consequences for their own actions... I know I just canceled my account.
It’s also so gross to paint the situation with such a black and white brush. Amber and Johnny were both toxic, but Amber was violent. (And knowing what I know from my own abusive relationship, being the victim of abuse will make you toxic yourself as a defense mechanism so who am I to even say how toxic Johnny even was.)
@@notme2day you’re welcome. I was angry in the first 10 minutes. I wanted to see if it redeemed itself. I turned it off in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd part. As a survivor I felt like I was being gaslit and it wasn’t worth anymore of my time. They will suffer no consequences for this I’m sure and that’s sad. In my opinion they don’t care about Amber or the me too movement this was more about believing them over alternative outlets.
@@notme2day I’ve heard that MANY people have canceled their Netflix subscriptions as well. Even though many people tuned in to watch, they are disgusted with the Netflix Agenda and they are canceling subscriptions. Every legal documentary series that I’ve seen, was painted in a light to drive the narrative that THEY HAVE home.
I figured this was just Ambers 3rd bite of the apple at re-writing history.
I do LOVE the legal conclusions that nothing on Twitter is legally sue-able in the court of law.
Really opens me up to keep talking about Ambers history of harassing shopgirls in the comments (like what happened to me)
When I watched it and saw the part where they mention the “laypeople” who were covering the trial and there was a cut to your channel just as the word “laypeople” was said, I was like “ohh no! EDB is a former DISTRICT ATTORNEY, with almost two DECADES of experience, you did NOT just call her “laypeople””. The audacity!!
Yes, that got me hot under the collar aswell!
Unironically, I hope she sends them a C&D letter at least to spook them. I don't think it's a big enough deal to actually sue over (Emily gets more views in a week of streams than that doc will get in the first month), but I'd love to know someone started sweating about their bad choices.
Yesssss!!!!!!!! I caught that, too!!!! My TV got screamed at loudly!!!
Roll the AUDACITY lights!!
Code red!@@Cynthiabecker24
I was in McDonalds drive thru listening to you. The lady at the window said “OMG I love Emily I am such a law nerd.”
OMG. I love this so much!! Get it Law Nerds.
@@TheEmilyDBakerUA-cam creators that cover Meghan Markle had the same thing done to them during the Meghan Markle 6 series drama. One of the UA-camrs is taking legal action against them.
One of the tipping points of the trial I remember back when it first was happening in real time was when the two pictures of Amber were exactly the same- hair strands in the same spot in two pics- and she was saying they were two different pics in different lighting. I was like okay girl you lost me
Irony is exactly what it is.
Making money on the DeppVHeard trial by accusing people of making money on the DeppVHeard trial 😂😂
It takes one to know one. But this is public broadcast which is what Johnny wanted so you can't copyright it. Netflix or content creators cannot lay claim to the trial.
@@jonfreeman9682 intellectual property rights extend to anything you've added commentary wise though. So, for instance, I cannot copyright a public domain book, BUT any of the comments or notes & opinions written by me with a re-release of it (i.e Jane Austen, plato, socrates) Is now considered copywritten material you cannot legally use. You can only freely use the public domain portion.
Not to mention hypocritical.
are you suing?
I won’t watch it. My husband even asked me if I was going to but I refuse to give them my time or money.
“OMG Social media and content creators influenced jury, unfair judgment!!”
Also AH in court ON THE STAND:
“Look me up” - to the jury 😂😂
💀💀💀 Ahhhh!!! Forgot about that Little SlipUp!!! 😂😂😂
Don’t forget their expert on the trending hashtags. Don’t have to be on social media when they said she was trending for the wrong reasons…
I forgot about that one. This trial had so much in it. " look me up" 🤣🤣🤣💀
Anyone that actually watched the trial can only laugh at people trying to claim it was unfair and she's still the victim 💀.
also it was heards flying monkey barlow who got banned from
court for live tweeting ffs!!!!
As a 21 year old I followed your coverage of depp v heard and a few months later I was selected as a juror for a murder trial. Watching along with you tremendously helped my understanding of how the court works and what to expect.
9:55 Elaine was straight out disrespectful of the Jury. I said it before, but Elaine in closing saying that the trial was all a waste of the juries time was astounding. You are saying this to the audience that had to watch all the monotonous video taped depositions, where they had to try to keep up with your convoluted and ever changing testimony, and deal with the constant shenanigans. Really?! She should have been thanking that jury just as Depp's team did. Way to speak down to the jury Elaine.
I think we should stop calling it a documentary
Mocumentary anyone?
@@hughgordon6435 I've started calling it a black cleopatra.
@@angrytheclown801 Sure bud. I'm sure you think Jesus was white.
@@bethanychatman9531 He was middle eastern/Jewish. But that's not relevant to Netflix screwing up two documentaries to the point of being laughable.
@@angrytheclown801Weird to say, dont drag the blacks into this. Not all of us believe that false narrative.
"There's this doctor named Spiegel. Today was strange." I'M DED.
I scrolled all the way down here looking for this comment. 😊 TY
With regards to Netflix, they should have sought permission in the first place but more importantly they need to cease and desist with copy striking content that they used without permission.
Imagine trying to use content without permission…from a community of lawyers! 😅 I’m so surprised Netflix and the documentary filmmakers haven’t gotten in serious trouble yet!
That's what I was thinking! I really hope this comes back to bite them.
Oh, it is going to come back to bite them. They slandered some creators.
Why are people still watching Netflix…sleazy?
I hope this comment gets lots of likes👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Not only did they use content without permission, they claimed copyright to that content and content creators are finding they can no longer play those video's on their own channel due to action by Netflix.
I can’t believe that at the end of the second episode it seemed like they were accusing the jury of violating their oath and being influenced by social media.
Yeah that was rich
It's so funny because Amber's legal team's one job was to present the facts and instead they _brought in_ the data from social media showing that people stopped liking Amber after 2016 and that Justice For Johnny Depp was trending for a time.
That's what really gets me. Thinking that is such an FU to the jury. They sat through weeks of brutal testimony, don't treat them like that.
And comparing the jury rules to a literal homicide trial then acting shocked like amber was cheated out of standard rules
Well there's some truth to their claims as it's impossible to avoid social media. It's all over the news and is the hottest topic on social media but did it sway the jury? Hard to say. Maybe.
I watched the trial in full and found your coverage very good. The irony of someone making a documentary to suck some money out of this trial is pretty low and I can’t imagine wasting my time watching a reflection of a reflection.
Exactly. And the way they try to insinuate the content creators are inferior - when they included people like EDB, with the kind of relevant expertise and understanding of the court system that the documentary producers could only hope to have (except they wouldn't really, would they - because they weren't aiming to provide the best information; they were focused on communicating their own narrative. Understanding and expertise was irrelevant to their aim).
Am I the only one who goes back and watches parts of the Depp v Heard just to rewatch Emily's commentary on it? 😄
No 😂 Watched Dr Curry the other day. I made a whole doc with links to the clips in order for my friend😅
If it wasn’t for Emily and the rest of the law tubers, who knows how susceptible we all would’ve been to the media slant on this trial. I was watching it nearly daily with the crew, and then catching news highlights as if they were talking about something happening on a different planet, this is main stream media’s failing attempt to hold onto power that is slipping away from them when you can have real professional experts, talking about things within the realm of their expertise, rather than some political pundit bouncing from major TV studio to TV studio.
I missed 70% of it while it was happening even though I wanted to watch it. The “hi-lights” I did catch were mind blowing. With or without the lawtubers, it was clear to me she committed dv against Depp. Recently, I’ve been able to catch up and it was even more mind blowing. I really saw, with help from the yt attorneys, how calculating she was. Many said a defamation case is hard to win, because even if you prove defamation, you have to prove that she intentionally with malice orchestrated the defamation. Dummy that she was, she carelessly left evidence left and right that showed she was hell bent on improving her image at the expense of his reputation. It’s really pretty scary.
You are amazing
The only time the jury was influenced by social media was when AH brought it into court themselves.
Right so insane
@@theredhotchilipepperssexof4269only if you include the evidence, and all of the witnesses, that proved Amber Heard was never a DV victim, she was truly a DV perpetrator.
One thing I will always say is , if i hadn't n't watch this trial i would probably believe some of the narrative about this whole trial
Yeah... that's what so many and Netflix were banking on... uninformed people.
Same thing with the political nightmare of everything being spin, spin, spin on the different news channels instead of being fact based.
Yes that's what bothers me. If you didn't watch the case it's going to leave a really different impression.
Yeah by default we believe all accusations. Without the public trial we wouldn't know though UA-camrs and justice mavens have championed Johnny's case on social media.
How could you NOT believe Amber's narrative, when all of the "trusted" media parroted her lies and disregarded the evidence and verdict?
You would have no reason to believe they would lie to everyone.
It was very eye-opening for me to see the media narrative versus lawtube's coverage.
Now I feel like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist because I have lost all trust in the media.
If they were all willing to lie so blatantly about defamation and SA allegations, what else are they lying about?
It's depressing.
@@LethalShadowthe media has always swayed our thoughts and beliefs,even way before UA-cam and a million online commentaries. Scott Peterson(who I believe is 1000% guilty of killing Laci)was falsely portrayed in media. "They" told us he was caught with his hair dyed,a beard,brothers ID,large amount of cash,etc. Making us believe he was trying to go on the run. Detectives that worked that case have said they knew he changed his looks to avoid the media as much as he could,he was using his brother's ID for the same reason and he was buying something with the large amount of cash,I can't remember what atm. They knew where he was,what he was doing because they consistently tailed him. There's a whole documentary about the effect the media had on his trial and verdict. The evidence is there,but had it not been, would an innocent man been convicted? Have innocent people been convicted because of how the media can so easily make up our minds for us?
This Netflix documentary left a bad taste in my mouth. I was watching this case through your streams because you are the legal expert and explained why the proceedings unfolded the way they did. I didn't need tick tocks or a guy in a deadpool mask to form an opinion. Thank you for all your hard work!
The Law & Lumber video showing how impossible it was for the bed to break the way AH claimed, and him finding the pocket knife, was what turned the tide on AH for me. I watched the whole trial for all 6 weeks. Netflix/Emma Cooper were both put on blast by me on twitter
I’m glad you covered the Netflix doc. I refuse to give them my view. They completely botched what really happened in that court room from the clips I’ve seen and other people who have covered it. This is another example of why trials SHOULD BE PUBLIC for us to see. Those of us who watched that trial know what we saw…& those who didn’t watch the trial are blindly going to go along with the bs Netflix put out. Netflix had a narrative to push. & I wish more people and creators would call them out.
I’d like to follow the money. How much were AHs publicists or friends involved in financing this series?
If it makes you feel any better, most of the show's audience reviews are pretty abysmal. It doesn't sound like many people are blindly going along with it - and I imagine many of those who were had been drinking the Team Heard kool-aid to begin with.
Come to think of it, I wonder how many people could have come in blind to this. Anyone who would be interested in the series would surely have taken an interest when the trial was happening and already formed at least a general opinion. I doubt it swayed many people who weren't already in Heard's camp.
YEEEEP
Although, I really think the only agenda Netflix has is getting and keeping viewers on the platform. This trash doc was obviously a good choice for that. They don’t care if it’s accurate or not. I _almost_ think that’s more gross than pushing a narrative because at least if they were doing that it would mean they care about SOMETHING other than money.
I won't frustrate myself by watching. The trial already took too much of my time. In support of Johnny but moving on with my own life. ❤
you’re smart not to waste your time.
Same. I wish MSM and Amebr would do the same lol.
Honestly, I think moving on with your life _is_ the best way to support Johnny. He certainly seems to be moving on with his, and I doubt he wants this dragged out any further.
Add to that the fact that anyone who watches the show, even if they hate it, is implicitly supporting its message by giving it one more view... yeah, I would say staying away from it really is the best thing you can do.
@@Vox-Multis i wish i watched reviews before wasting my time watching because i was so hopeful that it would shed an accurate light
I have 1 question, if the guy witnessed Depp kick AH in the back on the plane, why wasn't he challenged on the stand? Why wasn't it perjury ? When did a depo become ignorable ? 😢😮
It was the audio tapes for me. Amber seemed to not take responsibility for her part in the toxicity of the relationship. Particularly, when she nonchalantly thought it was ok to hit Johnny while claiming domestic violence against her. Your coverage was excellent.
I watched the doco and my thoughts of the out come, stays with the Jury. Netflix need to either move on from this or get sued by anyone who is willing to do so.
I hope they get sued..... No one should get away with lies and manipulation like that.
It took your content, judged you for making it and profiting off of it and then made money off of it while expecting no judgement.
Emily, you weren’t my main source for Depp v Heard. You and a slew of lawyers and legal experts, including Black Belt Barrister, guided the conversation; you didn’t lead us to one conclusion or another. You sat with us and explained what was happening in real time. I was so proud of all of you! You treated us like a community, not like idiots who could nor should be lead in one direction. You simply explained the law.
If I was gonna make blanket statements, I would say that MSM wants to control not only the manner in which the public receives information but WHAT/WHEN/HOW and the direction that the masses form an opinion. I view their finger-pointing statements of who’s monetizing this trial as misdirection.
My husband was watching it and showing me how outrageous the trial was…I told him I was there (with EDB and crew lol) and the trial was more wild on a day by day basis 😂
That was actually the reason I started watching the trial lol. I wasn't actually interested 8n the trial initially (I originally thought they were both guilty) but I saw some animations from some of the funnier moments in court and couldn't believe a real trial could be like that. I am so glad I found this stream after that and made sure to catch up on everything I missed.
I saw the Netflix/Channel 4 documentary months ago as I live in the UK. I was outraged at how bad they made content creators look. In particular you Emily! I followed the trial with you and your commentary was invaluable. I think mainstream media are feeling threatened and the narrative of the documentary was simply plain mean towards content creators.
Hi I live In UK and can't find it on Netflix. Do you know where can I watch it?
When I went in for a protective order after a SA I had to describe my SA in open court to the judge in detail because he wouldn't just take my bare bones explanations, he wanted details. I felt humiliated and sick. I had an advocate with me and she was appalled.
what the fuck? No decent human in that room felt anything other than sympathy for you. ❤️
Damn. I'm so sorry.
That is disgusting! That judge victimized you all over again. I am so sorry!
That's not irregular? To give testimony as to why you want a protective order? Did you call the police and file a report? The system is abused daily by those that want to use protective orders to their advantage. Many use them as excuse to evict ex lovers, roommates, etc. It's not the fault of the court to do their job.
@@hopeg8031 no.
Thank you for finally addressing this. You said everything I felt. I was very disappointed in the documentary.
Also important about the insurance lawyers, Amber pretended she paid for her case HERSELF. They got to say that Amber was paying herself in court and no one was allowed to say different. Why was that, again?
Everything Amber did was sus. Everything!
Really, she lied or stretched the truth so many times, a six week trial just wasn’t long enough to point them all out. Imo, at some point JD’s attorneys had to point out to the jury, if she’s comfortable telling you all these lies, then how can you believe anything she testifies to? If invoices for 6 million in legal fees isn’t presented to the court, then take what she says with a grain of salt. I keep saying the best evidence that Depp isn’t an abuser is Amber Heard says he is.
Got to give props to the woman -she knows about to beat the system in three different countries, three different continents, etc. I’ve never seen anything like. This is extraordinary.
@@123marlanamars You heard about Australia dropping the charges, and how she likely moved to Spain to avoid being extradited on purgery charges since is seems Spain doesn't care about that sort of thing?
She just constantly escapes justice, and still has a massive group that constantly shills for her. At least the public sees through her. Can't wait for Aquaman to bomb.
@@123marlanamarscertainly Elon had given her some tips, as well as certain friends of theirs at the ACLU, and likely the folks at the Doughty Street non-profit justice Nichol and his wife support that she was a guest speaker at, ... imho.
It’s funny, I didn’t even know who Amber Heard was. I heard that JD was accused of being a wife beater by The Sun and that in the news over here in the UK.
When the trial started, I still didn’t know who she was until it was mentioned she played Aquamans girlfriend. I saw the film but didn’t remember her at all.
I was completely neutral on AH but as the case progresses and she hit the witness stand, i was enthralled. I couldn’t believe the testimony of the woman on the stand.
I jumped around lawtube and Court Tv watching the civil suit. And it became clear very quickly that AH was lying through her teeth.
Very entertaining to watch for 6 weeks.
I watched the series and didn’t like it. It was very biased towards Amber and the whole “victims don’t have to be perfect” spin. Which wouldn’t of been as big of an issue for me if they didn’t leave out crucial facts from that case that made Amber look untrustworthy. The dog poop is one thing, but I’m talking about the stuff that made her seem untrustworthy, like the TMZ slip up, the edited photo that was a literal duplicated photo that was just saturated to make her face look red. They showed a lot of her bad moments and then explained them away, and then when they showed Johnny Depps bad moments they just left it out there without explaination. You just heard villainous music in the background. It was really typical, and I watched that trial as someone who’s never watched any of those stupid Pirates movies and never really ever cared for Johnnny Depp as an actor. I actually kinda wrote him off, but for those of us that actually watched the majority of that trial, I don’t see how you can walk out feeling like Amber was treated unfairly throughout this trial. They bring up the memes and stuff, could you imagine what Johnny Depp had to go through when those accusations came out?? It was disappointing the way they made this documentary but what do you expect.. oh well. I also didn’t like how they presented Amber Heards supporters as these educated and thoughtful people and then when they show Johnny Depps supporters they show the guy dressed as Deadpool. From there I was like, ok I see where this is going.
The frustrating thing about that spin is there's way more evidence of Johnny being a victim than there is of Amber being one. They're just like "Amber said she was the victim first, so we're just gonna run with that forever no matter where the evidence goes".
I rewatched parts of the actual trial after the documentary and the TMZ slip up was something! Wow, how did I forget about that?
Your comment nails it.
The documentary was supported and guided by Amber Heard's PR team. It's the very reason why it turned out the way it did.
Same as the made for TV movie made about it. Educated people commenting about DV and SA and for Johnny it just showed a bunch mean people and memes. Typical, man can't be a victim only women. Google teen mom, Amber Portwood beating up her boyfriend/baby daddy. He was twice her size and he just took it.
I’ve learned more about the justice system from watching you than I did in school
Same here
I actually was doing a criminology program at school ,and there was a lot of the American justice system that I didn't understand until I watched the trial with Emily. Idk why the documentary was trying to incriminate the content creators when the majority of them were educating us.
As a German, I know more about the US legal system, through EDB than I do the German one.
“Is irony the right word? Maybe bullshit is the right word.” ❤️
All I got from the documentary was I’m glad lawtube is a thing and bringing various lawyers together from all over the country and other countries was the best thing from it all. I didn’t watch that trial in real time but the lawtube commentary made it bearable. And educational is a plus.
Tbh I liked some parts of the documentary (the direct comparison for example) but most of it was making it clear that they think social media is at fault for this verdict.
They make it clear that they think that ppl basically exploited the lawsuit for views. With no differentiation between serious reporting & commentary and explosive over the top ppl and accounts who were making a mockery of all of this. They basically called the verdict into question.
They were also leaving a lot of testimonials out.
And what about their claim that people were cloutchasing for bucks, and then they use content from creators without concent? PLUS even slaps COPYRIGHT on other people's original content!? The IRONY! There will be lawsuits coming..
@@lineprestkvrn9014hope they suffer more than lawsuits... hope they lose a ton of subscribers. I just canceled my subscription.
The jurors not being sequestered was a huge oversight. Social media did run wild during this case and there was virtually no way to avoid hearing about this case out in the regular world.
That's conjecture. The fact is social media is everywhere and it's hard to avoid. That's the era we live in. Did it influence the jury. Maybe. Would the verdict be different otherwise. Unlikely. Does it matter. Nope. What's remarkable is why this case requires millions of dollars and mountains of evidence and eye witness testimony and paid experts to decide what is so apparent to anyone with half a brain. The documentary could have provided a balanced view.
@@tgime1 I don't know if I agree there, because it highly depended on the algorithm what you saw. I remember my other YT channel did not have a single video on my suggested feed.
So idk. It certainly wouldn't have hurt if they had done that. But idk the rules for that kind of thing to happen, so what the hell do I know.
Hello Everyone I live in Moscow, Idaho and I so appreciate how Emily analyzes these hearings and helps us to understand what is going on. Found her during the Amber vs. Depp trial and so glad I did.
I've been watching Emily D Baker so long that she feels like a BFF or a sister. I love the vibe she's creating for this community. We need more of this in the world - unconditional positive regard towards everyone. ❤🙏♥️🫶🇺🇸🌈🌞⚖️👩⚖️🕉
So am I!
Well, she made it fun but I wouldn't say she needed to explain what was happening ... we all came to the same conclusion that the jury did ...
Wow, Moscow ID can't be fun right now 😢
@@CrystalCat24 we're doing alright and folks r trying to move on from murders but it will be a media frenzy if trial starts Oct 2.
Here’s where I’m confused if insurance covered everything why couldn’t she fulfill her “pledge” to donate her divorce settlement?
That was one of the holes in her explanation and why Camile (JD's lawyer) zeroed in on it. Post-trial, they sued her for causing this mess by knowingly lying and are arguing that she broke the rules of her contract with them, so they aren't held responsible to pay her fees, but she didn't know that would happen then. She had no leg to stand on with that position.
@@DeeliciousoneShe dug herself into that grave. I think if Amber had stopped using this lie that she's a victim of abuse every time she needed to remind people she existed we wouldn't be here today. I think Johnny would have just quietly retired from Hollywood with all his assets and just stayed out of the public's eye so as to not bring any bad press to his daughter.
@@0O0.0O0ycyfyxtcjbivtxt absolutely agree
Yes, I perceived it the same way. I watched the series & found it biased & implying that Heard didn't get a fair trial. They did give the perception that the sealed docs would've shown that she was credible. The sequence of clips was biased, it was done in a way that convey a specific message of Heard not being treated fairly. I watched the trial without comments, I wasn't participating on the social media aspect of it & I was taken back about the suggestion that the trial was decided by social media & not by the jurors. They did such a disservice to the jury & all the work done in it.
I watched the complete trial, my boyfriend didn't, but did watch the netflix docuseries and could still tell she was guilty. I wish they would of brought up the Australia tapes.
If they stole my content, regardless of how little, I would absolutely sue because Netflix gets away with things like this a lot. Especially if they use your own copyrighted music. Sorry they did this to you and other content creators!
Unfortunately, copyright allows for them to use the creator's content in the way they did. It was transformative.
@@mzcytin even if they used her intro which is music she owns?
It would be better if they made a truthful doco without lies & defending an abuser. But yes they should all sue
Not easy to sue a Company that has millions of dollars at their disposal and can find copyright loopholes to jump through. UA-cam creators are going to need to tighten up their own copyright laws. A big lesson
@@caroshmarow but that’s what I’m wondering, because Emily personally owns the music and not youtube. If someone can be copyright struck for humming a melody surely Netflix using her copyrighted music would be a violation?
We’re so lucky to have watched the trial WITH YOU.
Funny how AH was okay with medias when it was in her favor, but the minute it turned against her it's biased...
I didn't watch the documentary by Netflix. I put a thumb down on it and said do not recommend it to me to Netflix. Because the way they spun the trailer, seems like they were going to take Amber's side. I didn't want them to paint you as a villain who's after Amber for clout or something, for some reason. So I was like, hard pass. I respect your opinion and your analyzation and you are really objective. I didn't want Netflix to smear your name just to raise up Amber Heard and her henchmen Eve Barlow
Yeah, I watched it and they basically called the verdict into question.
It was very much a social media is the villain type of deal, as serious reporting on the trial was put next to ridiculous harassment & parodies of amber - which were obviously not ok. But to put both of it on the same level of credibility (at least that is what I felt watching it) is super iffy and shows their attempt to frame the entire thing and spin a clear narrative.
They also left out a lot of testimonials that could have given context or could have called statements into question, too.
What they did well tho is that they basically arranged the testimonials so that you had a direct comparison of both sides. I really enjoyed that.
@@MamieMcCallso you say there is more context to the story that would change the verdict?
@@MamieMcCallthere were no bots, there were more bots to tarnish depp.
If that’s the truth, what are these things? Not like you’ll get blacklisted.
There is so much evidence probing Amber was lying and was in fact, the abuser
@@MamieMcCalltried as suggested and got only Minnie and Mickey references plus some movie with 2 men and a mouse? So how can You back Your claim? And wth did these claims not come out the YEARS he was blacklisted due to her unsupported claims?
@@lineprestkvrn9014 rather than just coming out and saying it, she is subtly implying that “the mouse” is Disney and that in Hollywood, nobody wants to be on Disney’s bad side. Pirates of the Caribbean is Disney. She is claiming that Disney took JDs side, covered up some alleged atrocities, and started a smear campaign against Amber. The problem is that even people who live under a rock (I am one of them) could see that Amber was literally JDs best witness. 🤷🏻♂️
What blows my mind about the claim that, "How could the jurors NOT be affected by social media...".... So you are a juror. You have been sitting there listening to this very draining, triggering, sad stuff all day. Not to mention just being around the energy of people bickering all day. Just imagine how exhausting it is to be in that room at all. Then for 8 hours. Think about what that feels like. And you really think someone wants to go home and look at MORE of that? I would go home, put on the most mind-numbing shit I could find, and just go to bed, dude.
It's a way to short circuit that sort of actual scenario-building: "how could they not?" It's never a serious question.
They weren't saying "the jury all went home to open Tik Tok and laugh at memes". They're saying "probably every single person these jurors knew was absorbed by the memes and at some point contacted them to mention something". To consider that possibility unlikely isn't realistic.
We watched the trial too. And to be fair I was also looking at funny memes, etc. But I can't imagine doing that if I were on the jury. We can laugh because we have a separation from the case that the jury isn't afforded. I don't think I could laugh as freely if I had the responsibility of judging the case. And I think the misinformation the media was spreading would have been extremely infuriating.
What about the Main Stream media's and newspaper's slant on the trial? Mainly pro Heard I believe? No one seemed worried that the jury might have encountered this and being influenced? I saw just the trial, it needed nothing more to convince me of Johnny's case. And Amber's team didn't complain re their two 'wins' having bias?
@@nidh1109 They're told to avoid television coverage of it too, which would certainly be harder than avoiding social media.
But yeah, the media's argument is hypocritical. Hypocrisy is the one thing all propaganda systems have in common.
But she knows powerful people and leveraged her status as putative battered spouse to the hilt. It didn't start at the trial.
I mean, tell me what's wrong with this picture: "The author of the Op-Ed, which appeared above the fold in the Washington Post, was ghost-written by a former speechwriter for Ronald Reagan, and bore the imprimatur of the ACLU, was authored by the actor, mostly known for her supporting role in the movie, Aquaman." I mean, that says "it's not what you do, it's who you know" better than anything I've heard of recently.
I thought it was interesting that they didn't point out her many many lies.
You were the best part of the docuseries.
Thank you for bringing up the abuse testimony being televised for criminal court. I had to testify in court and my testimony was clipped and posted for local news. I was mortified. Even though they didn’t show my face they clipped me crying and explaining what he did. That messed me up.
I don't have Netflix, I watched the trial, so I know who won. That's how I found EDB 😊.
Same here !!
Yes, Emily D Baker is the best Commentator whom I can actually understand. I am a slow learner and yet Emily explains everything in a way that I can comprehend. Emily, you go girl 👧
I watched it. Much like I watch a trial, with no opinions either way until the end. We the jury find the Netflix doc GUILTY of trying to sway the public to Amber's lies, and GUILTY of presenting out of context commentary in order to make Johnny and his followers out to be villains.
Okay but did they provide a convincing argument to support Amber. The actual trial was pretty black and white so not sure how Netflix can present it any different.
@jonfreeman9682 they provided an implication. Enough to raise doubt to the masses whom are typically easily swayed. It's the same strategy used in mass media during the trial depicting court days that were very different than what I was watching with my own eyes.
@@jonfreeman9682give a ton of excuses to amber's bad moments in court, put the blame on social media and johny's fans outside court, accuse the jury of being biased. You've got a recipe to put reasonable doubt in the mind of anyone who hasn't watched the trial or who doesn't remember well
@@docomega7862or who doesnt go looking for all the stuff thsts put there thst didnt make it into the trial for one reason or other (like complete recordings that only had clips played, etc), on top of which, the SUN verdict was different because the standard of what the judge was trying to determine was different... in the uk, it only had to be found whether it was reasonable for the SUN to have believed *amber* before printing stuff.
It’s just as well it was televised, the way it keeps being twisted is outrageous!
TBH I was on the fence about watching the Netflix doc, but when I heard about Emily and Swoop's clips in it, I thought Emily and Swoop must've agreed to have their content used by the doc creators. For me, that was a sign that the doc would at least be unbiased and was actually sorry to see (without knowing Emily didn't give consent to them) Emily and Swoop agree to be involved in such a biased- and frankly, ignorant- doc. I wouldn't have watched if I thought Emily didn't give permission for them to use clips of her, because I know Emily won't agree to be in anybody's false narrative when it comes to cases she covers. I saw the clips as kind of proof that it wouldn't be a biased doc and was so disappointed when it turned out to be biased in so many ways. While I'm glad to know Emily wasn't actually involved, I'm concerned that I was able to be 'tricked' into watching the rhetoric of the doc against my own judgement simply because it contained clips from creators I know can be trusted.
Question: Did AH’s insurance company cover the costs for her to have a full glam squad for her hair, makeup, and stylist/wardrobe? Her hair was professionally done every day. I’ve never seen anything like this before.
Not that it helped her 😅😅
her hair looked like a hot mess! 😅😂😅😂
I think it may have hurt her that she looked over-styled most days. It makes her less relatable and emphasised how much she cares how people perceive her.
Apparently AH stayed in a rental that cost over $22,000 a month who paid for that ???
At the time, I had read she had a girlfriend who was practicing braided hairstyles.
I'm grateful to have watched the trial here with you. It helped me sort through my own experiences, and the verdict gave me some vicarious validation. I have no intention of watching the Netflix doc. Between the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes that are showing how Netflix's business model keeps writers and actors from getting paid and the blatant use of content that doesn't belong to them without permission or payment, I feel like Netflix is really showing their a$$.
Yea my mom watched the documentary because she didn't watch the trial and came away with the opinion that they were both at fault which resulted in a rant from me lol. I had to clear up several things that she didn't understand because they didn't explain them or completely misrepresented them.
I am furious over this!!! I won't watch the Netflix mockumentary. They stole so much footage and are now are trying to go after the channels playing their own footage for copyright. I am so upset at what they did to Popcornd Planet. They almost shutdown the live in which popcorn planet was showing only their own footage!!! They also twisted things to make it seem like Amber Heard would have won if we didn't watch the trial live on the Internet. We the viewers somehow forced the jurors to vote for Johnny Depp. 😢😡😡😡💜💜💜
I went into the trail, believing AH…. I watched her testify, then JD….by that time, I had changed sides, then I watched the witnesses…it was not until Bredehoft brought up Thatumbrellaguy, that I googled him….from there it opened up to Andy and EDB….
BUT…I had already made up my mind by watching the trail.
It’s funny how they complain about some texts being excluded when there’s literally audio of Amber heard telling someone (I believe it’s the bodyguard who died) that she hit him or threw the bottle which was also excluded because the bodyguard was dead that by default would have won the case for Johnny by virtue of her just outright admitting that she assaulted him and had made up the story about the phone.
Edit: yep just looked it up it’s audio of Jerry Judge who passed I think in 2019 where Johnny is explaining that she cut his finger off with the bottle and Amber is talking about the mix of like 4 drugs she was on and how she had thrown the bottle. It completely contradicts her stories and if Jerry Judge had still been alive the made up story she told wouldn’t have ever been told and she wouldn’t have had any wiggle room with her garbage story.
INSURANCE CASE: Please continue coverage for Travelers v NYM!!! The legal issues are fascinating, but this case could also continue to be interesting for those who don't care about the legal issues. We may potentially find out more about the interplay between the law firms, who made the decisions to keep increasing the caps, and lack of efficiencies by attorneys. Standard legal rates are common, not just for insurance companies but for all major corporations. Even at top firms, you always have to be efficient while providing the best representation possible. So I'd love to see more about how this all played out.
I was wondering if they could use everyone’s content without permission! First thing I thought of thanks to my new law brain! Thank you Emily!
I hated this show. They slanted to AH SO HARD! Also tried to vilify people like you and anyone who got popular because of the trial. Hell they even have the whole "donated/pleaded thing" slanted as AH getting bullied
Seriously she specifically was using donated until it was proven she didn’t donate the money and switched to saying she pledged. Also those were headlines they showed not clips of people interchanging the words. Ridiculous to think that was proof of bullying. I was shook.
Andy signore and step from popcorned planet are pretty damn POd about it.
It's really coloured that to make it look like they were paid to report a certain angle BY Depp
Edit: also then they Copyright claimed his own stuff that they stole for the docu
It made me so frustrated.
I started watching the documentary and hated the vibe and watched something else we all knew which way it was going to go , I might watch it at a later date if I’m bored
I cancelled Netflix so haven’t watched this doc
Dr B was the real MVP during the trial, he always came through with the snacks and rehydration. He even did a pop in or two for a quick second. He held down the fort while you spent so many hours with us watching the trial and then giving so many breakdowns and follow ups for those who missed anything. We all learned so much and became proud law nerds
What bothered me was it made it seem like the juror's decision was based on social media & not from them sitting through the entire trial & using their own brains to evaluate the evidence & reach a verdict!
I'm so glad I watched this video. My wife and I followed the case along with you and other content creators, so before we got too far into the series we had to see what the deal was. I wondered if you were compensated. First episode didn't come off as judgmental but the pacing is so quick to embrace Johnny Depp, my first thought was that they were introducing him as the villain, like a movie script where the hero (apparently Amber Hurd) is at a loss and the villain seems undefeatable. It's also odd because... we already saw all of this and we had even more information from hours upon hours of analysis outside the court. I don't see what else it could add to the case other than to attempt to flip the narrative.
None were look popcorn planet up his name is andy they used a ton of his content they emailed him asked if they could he didn't get back fast enough so they sent another email and said oh well we are using UR content anyways 😅 like seriously he was really upset Emily and popcorn planets content was on the Netflix show a lot they are using andys content every episode and trimming to fit their narrative
THE BEST PART ABOUT THE WHOLE TRIAL WAS YOUR COVERAGE!!!! THEY SURE GOT IT RIGHT BY STARTING THE MOVIE OFF WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE A REAL STAR THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING!!!! SO FAIR SO INFORMATIVE! SO HAPPY TO SEE FIRST OFF THE BAT …YOU!!!!!YAY!!!!!THEY GOT SOMETHING RIGHT❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❣️❣️❣️❣️🙏🙏
Oooohhhhhh I had forgotten about Dr.Doofinshmirtz… ah the joy this just brought back to me 😂
*I don't want or need a documentary! I saw most of the trial and despite what the media said, I came to the same conclusion as a unanimous Jury did. *What I want is to see a movie of the trial with Johnny Depp playing all the characters ... I guarantee it will be the best movie EVER!*
I can’t believe anyone who watched the trial cannot see AH lost the trial all by herself. I don’t know but I would hazard a guess the reason her legal team were so bad was because they had a nightmare of a client who actually believed she was the smartest person in the courtroom.
Do you remember in closing arguments when she was PRETENDING to write a note and handed it to her lawyer, but you could clearly tell that the note was blank? Like... ma'am...
I watch the trial with you once i discover your channel, you were the best at giving the legal analyst and I kept watching you even after it ended. I love watching u do lawyer stuff wanted to be lawyer when i was younger but that didn't work out so watching your channel is my guilty pleasure
I'm not watching the Netflix doc but can confirm that I watched the actual trial daily on your channel and interacted with some of the most mature people I have ever encountered on UA-cam. I remember seeing headlines and sound bytes in MSM that were out of context so they missed my clicks and I stayed right here.
we needed the yt streamers, esp the lawyers like you who explained to us law while we all watched the trial. in fact, it has become a core memory for me: the waiting for the next day, the watching ang hearing you guys explain… and i feel like a graduated from a short course on law with this interesting case study. ALSO, by learning from lawnerds, we saw by ourselves how the mainstream was being biased with their reporting BECAUSE WE WATCHED THE TRIAL, WE SAW THE EVIDENCE, THE TESTAMENTS… AND THEREFORE WE WERE NOT FOOLED. thank you, emily!
They want people to change their mind and that those who didn’t watch it to think Amber didn’t get a fair trial and the victim.
All this did was strengthen my distrust for legacy media.
Just imagine how influential these history rewrites would be if they had been successful in having the cameras banned. It's a good thing, and clearly very important the trial was televised to the public.
@@bevmacdonald9008 true
I like you, have found the insurance companies going at it in Depp v Heard case fascinating. I have a background in both fields. And... Traveler's Insurance Company used to be based in the city not far from my home. This city used to be the insurance company capitol of the U.S. They had a huge umbrella in lights above their building.
I was inspired by all the people saying they cancelled Netflix and cited this mockumentary as the reason, so I did the same today! I hope Netflix takes all the feedback and removes it from their platform!
I’m not even bothering to watch it because Netflix never gets this type of topic right.
I didn't like that immediately after they talked about how people were siding with Johnny for clout, they proceeded put your video clip in right after. I yelled at my TV.
It was just not correct. Most of us were going in with an open mind, Emily included. I didn't know anything about Johnny, only his movies, but assumed that lifestyle brings bad behaviour often. We saw the evidence and behaviour in court. Just like the jury and that's why we really didn't like Amber in the end of trail.
I agree so much with your take. I thought the documentary was biased and definitely picked on social media creators or people just reacting and it sucked. Not a fan that they used content creators without permission and made short clips out of context. I’m glad I used the full trial.
We saw it live. We know the facts and in a way, like you say, we are like the jury. If Netflix wants to change the perception of the public, too late. The public made their minds up. 💜
I literally have the Netflix docu playing right now for like the 5th time while watching this video, and your face just popped up on it lol
The documentary was difficult to watch and honestly I fast forwarded through a bit of it...I found you during the Depp-Heard trial and am so glad to be a law nerd!! I really did not get much from it.
The edited clips weren’t just put together to reduce time, many of then were misplaced all together. The timeling in the docuseries has parts in the beginning playing after testimonies in the middle. It was completely misleading for anyone who didn't watch chronologically
Miss Emily, even your Green Chef ad is relatable and reassuring lol I feel so confident after watching this channel. I never thought I'd fall in love with learning law....but here I am! Stay safe and thank you! 🤗💜
I was assaulted 50 years ago. I thought I was dead so I was taking his eyes with me. He ran away; no one wants to mess with someone who has nothing to lose. But I still can't PRONOUNCE exactly what he did. I'm not modest, I've enjoyed similar since, but I simply can't pronounce what HE did. AH's ease with descriptions tells ME she was describing someone else's experience.
She had used other people's stories before, so it makes sense she did the same this time.
If she experienced what she claimed with a broken bottle, she would not be able to describe the incident in the manner that she did.
The constant revisionist history that legacy media keeps trying to push, even a year later, has me feeling like Regina George, "Stop trying to make fetch happen! It's not going to happen!!"
The first time I saw you and the DUI guy in the documentary, I was so excited because you made a wonderful job keeping the people that don't know the justice system informed. THEN I saw the approach that they were going to take with all the media, and it was disappointing.
Not only did they use content without asking, they tried to copyright claim Andy Signor (popcornedplanet). They used his personally filmed footage of him meeting Johnny, and tried to claim it was theirs.
I definitely felt that they were trying to make everything left out seem nefarious. Even the guy from Law & Crime seemed like he was questioning why stuff didn't come out, & I would have thought that he'd understand those rules. I mean, if I understand he should
This 'media' has shot themselves in the foot. I used to defend them as the gatekeepers of information quality. After the blatant mis-reporting of this trial I no longer defend most of legacy media and I'm extremely skeptical of anything that comes out of them at this point. I probably should have been more skeptical earlier.
Me too!
Ask yourself what else they’ve been lying about 👀
@@tulethos completely agree, it's scary
Joey Tribiani " its like a cows opinion. It doesnt matter. Its moo" 😂😂
Thank you for sharing this! Watched live with you and they left out SO MUCH
It was cheap and easy to make without having to pay any actors or writers.
I cancelled my Netflix subscription over their appalling misrepresentations of the British Royal Family. Presenting lies as historical fact is wrong whoever does it. They have no integrity or objectivity.
The fact that they apparently have compared you/ aligned you with, social media troll rubbish is evidence of precisely that lack of integrity or objectivity. Thank you for your insights to the trial and the American legal system. Your vocabulary takes a bit of getting used to😂 but your comments are spot on.
mee too...finally now 🙂
Open courtrooms is how it should be. The justice system is supposed to be open to the public.
I got all Mama Bear when they implied that EDB was moneygrabbing…
Interesting that AH + lawyer thought it impossible for jury not to be influenced by social media.
Ethical conduct : too bewildering a concept for those two, I guess..
They claimed that as a strategy since they didn't win.
Considering that Popcorned Planet is getting legal counsel due to Channel 4/Netflix copyright claiming their (popcorned planet) unique filming of an interview with Johnny Depp. If it ever goes to court, I wonder if you'll go over those legal filings.
Netflix are acting like bullies on account of their corporate might. It’s disgraceful. I hope they are made to answer.
Someone must have paid to get this “documentary” done. Amber is not a victim as she herself said. She is really the agressor as found by the jury. I wish her all the best! Very happy for JD! 👏🏻
On Netflix they showed video of Amber pretending crying, but didn’t point out that she pretend cries