I remember the time when my late grandma told me, “you and your oldest sister have darker skin than your other siblings but know that you’re just as beautiful”. Didn’t really understand how important those words were until I got older.
I remember I used to not give a sh*t about my skin. As I get older, my skin got darker. But it could also be due to my hygiene and diet. My skin was producing oil and I didn't wash my pillow cover as often as my blanket. But I didn't know oil sticking on pillow was a thing. It felt like my family treated me less favourably unconsciouscly/without realising. Love isn't unconditional. I used to use something like kojic acid for like 2 months and stop because I felt like it was fake, the only thing it did was irritating my skin, but maybe it kind of reset the melanin level and the sun damage to give me a new start. So I decided to only stick with sunscreen and basic skin care. My skin is now lighter than it used to and I do feel like I'm treated more favourably. My skin now isn't like white as a paper sheet, but I'm really happy with the ratio and I'm really happy that I don't have to use skin bleaching or any of such product, just basic stuff like sunscreen, cleanser, moisturizer. It's a tough topic overall, personally I wouldn't like to bronze in the sun and look dark, I don't think it looks good for my overall appearance too. I've heard many white people saying that asians are racist and wants to be like them as if they are really wanted, but I have to explain them that asians just want to look like other attractive asians, when you see asians get surgery, they won't start looking like caucasian and there's many asians that have naturally light skin like my mom who's really allergic to sunscreen(I didn't believe her, we tried all kind of sunscreen, her skin gets really red at the applied area), but her skin is like white(color not race) and she always get sun bathe in the morning because she likes it.
Even in slavery, the house negro was more then likely the fair skinned. These traditions go back to Egypt. The paintings on the walls represented field workers with dark skinned and light skinned represented non working people. But Ive felt like it was tactical for colonizers to get people to turn on each other.
We as Afro-centric and Latino people do the same thing in our families Big Time. Even my wife (Filipina) & Sister were said to have " Unggoy tails"( Monkey tails) because of their brown skin when they were young by lighter skinned relatives.
Breh that gave me flashbacks. I remember the Filipino church aunties would tell us as kids to get out the sun to avoid getting dark. They’d gossip saying “oh you’d look more handsome if you were lighter” and would recommend skin lightening soaps 😂 like damn Tita, I’m only 13 and just cared about playing sports outdoors lmaooo
I’ve been told multiple times that in some parts of East Asia like Korea, people call people “Filipino” as an insult… I think it’s partially because of being viewed as “the help” but definitely also because of colorism.
I'm Southeast Asian, aka Jungle Asian, so I have darker skin. But it's true, lighter skinned or half white Asians in that part of world are being held in high standards than us mortal Asians. In Thailand for example, many of their celebrities are either light skinned or half Caucasians.
Same with media in the Philippines they value those who are for the most part half European although these days more and more “pure” people are rising up the ladder.
I’m SOUTHEAST ASIAN. Who call us Jungle ppl? We Asian & Southeast Asian is BEAUTIFUL & SMART AS WELL. Who dare to call Asian jungle ppl?? They’re just ignorant, racist & jealous!! Btw, SOUTHEAST ASIAN CAN HAVE WISE-RANGE LOOKS & SKINTONE, from white skin to medium skin to light brown/tanskin to medium brown skin. Btw, mostly Asian like light skin because we naturally have light skin as well. Light white skin is not mean WHITE PPL OR WANNABE WHITE PPL. Asian like white skin though generation long before White ppl ever enter to Asia continental. WHO SAY ASIAN WITH LIGHT SKIN IS OBSESSED BY WHITE IS BULLSHIT.
Very courageous of you to touch this topic...Asia is obsessed with white skin, your color decides if you get media representation, power position or attention from opposite sex.
All the East Asian have light skinned, they are even lighter than most European. They prefer lighter skinned is all about Asian culture. The standard of beauty in Asia is being young and cute, and Looks younger is better. That’s why they extremely to keep the looks in age 5,looks clean, bright, pale and with no wrinkles, freckles and pimples…they don’t like white peoples skin because aged easily.
@@ἀπόστολος14 you are definitely one of the good Asians, now your assimilationist is complete,we welcome you as an honorary member of the Caucasian community! 😒
@@lilywu6208 Look fresh and cute like age 5, but be wise like a 100 years, right? Virtually the essence of Confucian metaphysics, but white peoples not understand.
@@lilywu6208 I don't think all east asian have light skin, there's variation between them. I'm south east asian (vietnamese), many vietnamese have light skin and many have dark skin. I met a korean girl who at first, I thought she was filipino, but she told me she's korean and I was surprised. I now live in Canada, my mom has really light skin(lighter than European like you described and she looks really young and beautiful). Thanks to her genes, I've had many girls asking me out :), sadly they were mostly white locals as there were no asians in my school (I do agree white people age lot faster, but I feel like white women age much faster compared to their white men) One time a black girl ask me if I was chinese or korean, when I told her I'm vietnamese, she was uninterested right away(korean porpaganda, but I'm not into korean media nor against it, that was just my experience)
Here's something that I believe many people outside the Afro-Centric experience may not know. Many African Americans used to go thru the "Paper bag" test. If you were lighter than a brown paper bag, you were more accepted than those darker than a paper bag. Look it up.
The Germans in WW2 basically considered Japanese "as good as whites" so I can see how that mentality carried into the US back in the day in terms of discrimination of Chinese vs. Japanese vs. Korean, etc.
Bleaching products are a billion-dollar industry in S.E. Asia, especially in the Philippines. I saw bleaching agents even in some foods while living there LOL.
Their faces when they talked about hot import nights LOL had me cracking out loud But yes agree about colorism!!! My siblings are all fair skin and I’m more medium tan!!! Heard it all my life!
I’m Filipino and most my family is light skin but some are more tan naturally or cause they go outside more and it’s so weird how different you get treated.
Economic, colonialism & class are factors. In Japan, according to my friend Masato, darker skin can signify that you’re a poor fisherman or come from Okinawa. In Latin America, where people lost their native tongues to colonization, it’s worse. As a FilAm, I experienced it from my moms side of the family a lot. My dad’s dark skinned, but my mom has that light East Asian skin tone. I remember my Chinese aunt describing my skin tone as a “beautiful golden brown.” That’s something that impacted me in a very positive way.
My mom is half Indian. Her mom was Irish & Black. We have all the colors in my family and all hair textures. In my family, they only care about how educated we are. My dad is dark skinned Black, and his mom was Black & Chinese . I'm very dark skinned like him with monolids and big curly hair. People think I'm wearing a wig because they're not used to dark-skinned people with curly hair like mine. I'm often referred to as the Black Chinese girl by people who know my parents, but in my family, we don't have color issues.
Im Thai but have fair skin. When I lived in Thailand, I was considered attractive because my skin was so light but back in Hawaii, I had to get a tan cause that’s considered sexier and my light skin too pale looking 😂
Interesting... As someone who is half white half Asian, but more on the light to medium skin tone, I have experienced colorism, but mainly be older Asian people, like grandparents. For example, I have been told, "wow you have beautiful Eurasian features, you could model, too bad you are so tan!"
@@invisiblerevolution Yup, and I was like 12 years old. Definitely made me wear sunscreen after that... ngl. But now I'm a lot more confident, but it literally took YEARS. That comment really messed me up, especially cause in our culture we are taught to respect our elders.
Seriously, you don't get a multi-billion dollar industry around this by accident. They're producing products with whitening agents (which are harmful to the skin) and convincing people darker skin (which is objectively good for you) is bad, or associated with negative life outcomes.
Yeah East Asians more specifically before Western European Colonialism prefered people with light skin tones but with typical East Asiatic features, featurettes, appearances, or looks as the beauty standard in there societies anybody without those outward shows were not seen as good mating partners nor people to spend the rest of there lives with nowadays though and ever since West Euro take overs now they want to look West European with Pale skin and either blonde, golden, brown, red, orange, amber, ginger, strawberry, or auburn hair colors with blue or green eyes yeah.
If you want to distinguish Europe based on skin tone, a north south divide makes more sense than an east west. West And East makes no sense. A lot of Germans and Dutch look like Poles and Belarusians and a lot of Greeks and Albanians look Spaniards and Portuguese
@@danielalbo3781 Correct, even the animosity typically tends to be along those lines as well. For example, the E.U. had to stomp out nasty ass assumptions about Southern Europeans being lazy and untrustworthy of additional financial support by the Northern countries. The headlines from then were ugly as hell.
Your video was very informative and respectful with a neutral perspective. It will reach many communities in a positive way. Hopefully we can collaborate on some projects in the future.
I born in Taiwan, and I have the light skins because my dad looks like a Caucasian. I always got praised by neighbors or relatives such as “ you are so cute and white” etc
I lived in Taiwan for 2 years and that was the n1 compliment I would get. Apparently it has to do with classism, if you are dark it used to mean you spent a lot of time outside, therefore you were most likely a peasant
"Oh wow. So proud of him, he's very educated, good looking, with personality, successful... he's got everything but.......... just a little too dark." (Heard this at 29 years old from my uncle.) "Oh, what!? THIS is your son? Really? Can't be your son. Oh.... but why is he so dark?" (I heard that at 7 years old from my mom's cousin she hadn't seen after many years.) My mom = fair skinned aristocratic-type mestiza heavy Spanish blooded Filipina with an intact upper class nuclear family. Super sheltered. Pageant queen. My dad = darker skinned mixed Hakka broken Chinese family and grew up in the Philippines. Sold peanuts and pan de sal on the streets as a child. Totally from opposite sides of the railroad tracks. Somehow, some way pops swung the longoniza-lapxiong energy and they fell in love. Goes without saying much colorism and lookism still exists in my fam, albeit in the older generations. I suppose old habits die hard. How to overcome negative stereotypes that can bring you down??? ***Get good at stuff*** Uplift yourself in any way...many ways. Increase opportunities for compliments and accolades. Naturally, your self esteem increases. Eventually, the negative tones get drowned out and imbalanced. Like the homie Andrew said, you might have to get away. If you can afford it, travel! Move. Get in where you fit in!!! BUT DEFINITELY DO NOT HATE. Or harbor the hate from those negative ideas you may have internalized growing up. That just makes you turn into an ass that nobody likes. Don't continue the negative cycle. Drop the weight from the baggage and you really lift-off to higher heights of increased success! REMEMBER: For guys, the secret to bigger balls is success. 👊😎 Although, you can also be well loved and liked by looking mestizo like my bros 🤣 Yo, people would literally "offer" their daughters to my parents for them. It was kind of hilarious. Straight up trying to work out arrange marriages. No joke. I'm pretty sure others with similar backgrounds understand.
“Just a little too dark” - seems like coming from a place of envy and insecurity. Nonetheless, you’re spot on as an ethnic Filipino myself coming from somehow the same background
Growing up in NYC with very diversesurroundings, I learned to appreciate my dark skin. One of my earlier girlfriends who was a Russian-Jew got mad that I told myself I look too dark in our photos, she got offended because I said it as I was ugly. She wouldn’t go out with someone ugly, that was her argument, 🤷♂️. Plus, I look like Latino half a time so I call myself “International man”, 😁.
I am a Southeast Asian (Cambodian) and have mixed background from grandparents who came from Mainland China, South Asia(maybe India) and native Khmer. My mother is light-skinned and my father is dark-skinned. I came out the darkest-skinned, more than my brothers. My mother only care about my skin colour because it is not perceived well socially, so she pushed me to care for my skin more as in make it lighter and hide from the sun. When I went out with her, she was asked if I was a kid she picked up from the countryside 😂 So, growing up I was never comfortable in my ‘skin’ and it’s hard on women, especially. Typical life of a dark kid in SEA. It’s better now, skin tones are not considered anymore. Why Asian women like western men? In my experience, i get bashed/made fun of by Asian men a lot because of my skin colour (perceived as poor and ugly) when westerners don’t and told me how they love my skin colour (both from men and women). I don’t mind those opinions anymore and I respect everyone’s preferences.
Thanks for your comment, it's very interesting. I'm vietnamese guy and my experience isn't as bad because I grew up in Canada. My mom have very light skin(she's also hyper-allergic to sunscreen) while my dad is dark in color as well. My sister is lighter skin. I didn't care about my skin color till I grew up in my teens and due to my life style such as hygiene, diet, hydration, sleep schedule and just aging probably played a role my skin got darker. I felt like my family treated me less favourably unconsciouscly. I tried using kojic acid for like 2 months and avoid direct sun exposure, wearing sunscreen, using cleanser and moisturizer. But I dropped the kojic acid because I felt like I was lying about my real appearance and it was burning my skin, but since I dropped and till 2 years after, my skin still looks lighter than it used to and I'm happy with the ratio right now and the fact that I don't have to depend on an active ingredient to make my skin lighter. It's probably due to the fact I take better care of myself. It's true that westerners have less colorism, but it still exist, when my skin was darker, people were more wary of me, but you're probably less likely to experience that wariness since you're a girl, it's different experience for a male.
This is definitely self-evident, don't need an academic study for people to realize this. There's a reason products like skin whitening creams are so prevalent in both East Asia and South Asian countries. Lighter complexion is considered beautiful and more desirable, but I suspect this type of judgement disproportionately affects women more than men because guys that are overly pale are deemed effeminate and may appear more sickly.
I grew up most of my life in the US but when I was working in Japan I saw posters for eye rounding surgery and skin bleaching. I also remember watching blonde blue eyed anime growing up like Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon…seems like that’s gotta be influenced in part by wanting to be more European.
You guys are on the money. Colorism happens in black families in the U.S I love my family, my family of variety ❤ of beautiful shades of flowers. A bit of this and a bit of that from our Great creator God.
I think all skin tones are beautiful. Light light to darkest dark and everything in between. They all represent nature adapting and changing in response to environmental pressures--there is a beauty of harmony there. I don't think any skin tone should be put above, or below, any other.
also yes this is true. even with black ppl, it was desired to be light-skinned as a kid. light skinneds were generally considered to be better looking. At least light skinned black women tend to look better. But dark skinned blackk women are fine too
Yup, the black community has drilled won and cast a light on just how bad and pervasive the colorism is. Props to them for doing that uncomfortable work.
WS took its toll on all of us. Other counties and cultures view dark skin to be dirty. I guess they never heard of melanin and pigmentation. I heard this in many Asian cultures. Not everybody feels this way....but still.
Colorism existed in my family. An ABC with natural olive skin and scolded by family for being tanned every summer. Constantly confused for being from the Philippines - from Latinos, blacks and my Chinese peeps.
Bruh. Stop capping. Two of the most popular, nose jobs (rhinoplasty) and eyelid lifts (blepharoplasty), are specially designed to make these features look more Caucasian. Asians generally have wider and flatter noses. Asian rhinoplasty narrows the nose and makes it project more, similar to a European look. Asians desire the Caucasian look
Yep. But people will do mental gymnastics saying that’s not true and act like they have no idea what you’re talking about. Colorism. What colorism? Gaslighting tf out of you. Only when somebody attack them for their skin tone and racially is when it would be acknowledged. When that happens, act like you don’t know what they’re talking about rite back.
There’s definitely a lot of misconception about asian aesthetics being about being “white” in the way Americans think of the word. Asians don’t call white people “white” they call them “foreign.” When they say “white” they are refrring to skin tone. Having light skin, tall nose, and big eyes as a desirable aesthetic in chinese literature predates the european colonial era. The notion that these have to do with wanting to look like white people is just a coincidence. It’s like saying white women wanting “tall, dark and handsome” is because they like black guys. Or white people wanting to look younger is them trying to look asian.
The aesthetics you like are not describing your own appearance. Light skin, tall nose, big eyes are not Asian. When do you love/desire your own aesthetics? Olive skin, almond eye, short/flat nose? What's wrong with loving you as you are?
@@ezpic2 You kind of fell into the trapping of what I was originally trying to point out, it's not about not looking asian. The traits are relative to the average not in absolute terms compared to other races. There are plenty of very light skinned asians and "tall nose" just means non flat slightly elevated nose bridge, not Adrian Brody nose. There are also plenty of asians with bigger eyes (relative to other asians) and natural double eyelids. What is considered beautiful culturally is almost never the "average." Jews and Middle eastern people get a lot of nose reduction surgeries. White people get face lifts and botox when they naturally have more wrinkly skin, they're hairier but get waxed, black people favor lighter skin. etc. It's not about not liking your own race, there just happens to be different beauty standards for different kinds of people. The variation among groups are harder to see for other groups but within the group the differences are much more apparent.
@@bigheadrhino "it's not about hating your own race" I'm sorry, but how the heck does having a beauty standards that's the exact opposite of the average person of your own "race" doesn't amount to hating your own "race"?
Lol damn heres my 3rd comment i just wanna say as a south east asian brother of tai-lao descent ive met and seen Asians with almost every known skin tone from lightskin pale light brown reddish tone to black almost and i just wanna say to all you asian brothers and sisters that you guys are still handsome and beautiful and in terms of looks I don’t think we are that selective when it came down to mating and breeding eachother out over the centuries and thats how we came to be 🌭🍩🥹💛 theres an old saying “TWO ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE DONT ALWAYS MAKE THE PERFECT SOUL” 😉☺️
It’s nothing about American things which is about white and black peoples,nothing about colonialism because East Asian have never been colonized by any western country. It’s all about Asian culture. The standard of beauty is young and cute looking. All the Asian women just want to be themselves when they are 5 which skin look clean, bright,pale and smooth, with no wrinkles, pimples, freckles and moles. Actually, Asian women prefer light skinned but not like white people.
France, England, Spain, and Russia have entered the chat. I agree to some extent but Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Loas, the Philippines, Hong Kong, parts of Mongolia, and Burma were all impacted to varying extents. Depends on where you draw the line on what constitutes East Asia. Each have their preferences and some take it to an extreme where it is no longer just pale but sickly white (next two levels) are preferred traits.
@@rockfish678 Bruh not one of those are East Asian countries. When people say East Asia they're referring to Japanese, Korean, and Chinese. All those countries you listed are SE Asian.
well it more northern European thing because every one was pale and you could not get tan unless you're are rich once northern european countries industrialized. For me As white person I prefer light skin. what be called light beige. East Asians go all the way to white skin. With me olive skin is took dark and nothing special about it. In fact with raise homelessness in us it hard to argue that tan is sign wealth. Ever time I see Kim Kardashian I think she need put on some sun screen because she is too dark.
honestly with this topic, probably another good topic to cover is stuff like mixed asians and the experience in different places if you're like, half or something.
And THIS is why I’m hopeless in finding an Asian bf. I’m genuinely attracted to them but I don’t think I’ll receive the same energy back. Such beautiful people smh. 😢 it’s like the only “Asian” thing I have going for me is my eye shape and my style. ButI think I’ll get turned down bc I’m “dark skinned”.
Check out Asian Black Couples Only, Black Asian Families with Children, and various other Asian & Black groups. Black Filipino Family etc etc. There's quite a few Asian men with Afro-Centric wives or girlfriends:)
Lol, happens all the time in American black families. We were 11kids DNA , African, Native American and Irish. One sister has straight up African features, course hair facial features, body types you couldplace her in the middle of AFRICA and you wouldn't able to tell the difference . One brother had Native features, the skin of southwest Natives American but in summer his body hair turned blonde .Another sister features were European especially her face. I'm what was called back in the day" light,bright not quite white" often asked if I'm hispanic. We all picked on each other for certain traits especially by relatives who would call out the difference.
Ok... but you grew up as East Asian guys. Perhaps it would be different for East Asian girls. I don't think fair skin is as big of a deal for East Asian guys as it is for East Asian girls. The moms would probably tell their daughters to stay in the shade and not play in the sun...
I realize this video is 1 year old but it's pretty funny to have an entire conversation about colorism in THE WORLD and left out any countries with the most color and sometimes the worst, physically damaging colorism... the Caribbeans and Africa. Overall you guys kinda dodge these conversations. An episode on Black and Asian relations would be interesting or even another Blasian conversation not sure if you have the references or friends for this though.
I'm black but I found this is very interesting to know I didn't know it was that deep I know. Colorism but I just didn't know it was that deep in the Asian community
I would agree that it's not about looking white but looking light, if they weren't getting eyelid surgery and wearing blue contacts and dying their hair blonde.
To all the Asian Bros & Sis here, here's a movie you may want to check out in my African American Community involving Colorism. Now it's just a movie but a lot of Truth in its context. Spike Lee's 'School Daze'. With all the dynamics that go along with our experience with Colorism which in cludes hair texture. Just like you the dynamics of levels of Social acceptance and status in conjunction with skin tone. We also have a saying in our community. If you're White, you're right. If you're Brown, you stick around. If you're Black, you're back. Sad indeed.
I moved from Indonesia where I struggled to find skin products without bleach to the UK where people get fake tans before going on night outs 😂 Sure, everyone has their own opinion or preference as to what they consider a beauty (beauty is in the eyes of the beholders right?) but I’ve never found another culture where people think it’s okay for total strangers to comment on someone’s physical attributes as candidly as in Asia. One example was I was accompanying my Mom to a traditional market and the tofu lady said “Oh, is that your daughter? Wowww she’s so beautiful, skin so white, so smooth, so healthy” 🙄 mmm and I was standing right there. And we were strangers! People would also leave public comments on FB photos “have you put on some weight?” Like, seriously? What about this amazing waterfall that I’ve just spent hours hiking to?
I had friends tell me kids in Japan and Korea call them dirty, or ask why they haven't washed their skin while on trips to Japan. This shit gets taught to kids EARLY.
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I think this issue is honestly overblown regarding East Asia. The narrative of colorism in the US comes from the perspective of racism and colorism that black people in America face. But you can't just transfer that same line of thinking to say that this is even similar. It's not. Young Koreans living in cities are diligent about skin care because our grandparents worked on farms and experienced sun damage. It's not usually from some internally racist feelings where we manifest the idea that "light skin aka white skin is genetically superior". Now that doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist. But it's a leap to think that this is the primary reason.
Has nothing to do with racism, has to do with classism. Back in the day, people who worked in the fields were obviously darker. The “thought” process was the lighter you are, the “higher class” you are.
That's a thing in the Black community. And in a way, that is how racism became. White was better because it meant you get treated better and are higher class. Watch "Passing" and "The Imitation of Life". I think the difference is, with colorism those White or light skin don't necessarily consider those darker are lower than dirt and not human.
Nah, this was a thing during the last millennia before racism was a thing. Some people claim it’s a “wanting to a whte person” attitude when it’s far from it.
It's not either classisssm, colorism, or racism. It's a gross mix of all three. Pale skin has been ascribed positive significance and importance that it should never have had. By who? By pale skinned people who considered anyone who wasn't them subhuman. This is coiorism. These people also extended these beliefs to the physical features the rest of the person has, and extended the value judgement even further. At this point it's full blown racism. Now, those with the pale skin who consider those who aren't that subhuman now control industry, media, education, and the routes to power and success. And it was in their best interest to stifle, ruin, and hobble everyone else. All while, in their own media, portraying themselves as the most beautiful, the most intelligent, the most skilled. Boom, now you have classism where access to resources and a better lot in life is determined by financial resources. And one malicious group controls access to this.
BS...that's false all to do with RACISM, the white supremacist colonizers went global. You simply repeating WHITEWASHED OR A FALSE NARRATIVE...like what the treasonous confederate rightwing white supremacist or "conservative" republikkkan grifters that DECREASE EDUCATION AND WHITEWASHED HISTORY in regards to Chatel slavery etc etc and what they are doing now...please stop that BS its a dismissal or intent to excuse the FACTS that Asian especially Chinese are very racist
This would make sense if the features of the ancient times were still sought after. Explain the high nose, big eyes and pale skin? That’s white features.
My mom didn't care about the color of my skin so she let me just run around outside and get super tan every summer as a kid. I kind of wish she didn't since I feel like even though I'm relatively attractive in Western countries, I wouldn't be if I ever moved to Asia because I'm too dark I think for most people's preferences and not nearly as skinny as the average Asian woman :/
You guys are still not being honest. It IS because you want to be white/european. Everything white/european in your culture is lifted up. You actually say european people are gorgeous in your advertisements, and in employment? The real question is why you don't love yourselves as you actually are.
Not just darker skin tones. I have pale skin from my white side and still rejected by members in my Asian side. I know I am not “Asian” since I am mixed but damn, didn’t even want to get to know me at all lol. Think it is case by case.
Lol 😂colorism is real among asians :For southeast asians Light-Pale skin is associated with chinese, east asians, or the other asian minorities that came from china with that skin tone such as myself Lao Tai-kadai being one of them. but overtime we already intermarried and assimilated with the native southeasterners and its true though if you talk to the native southeast asians who were there first such as the khmer burmese mon suay matryad etc before other asians arrived to SE asia they’ll tell you that too because light brown to dark brown and even black is their common standard. Hahahaha but yeah my dad is brown and my mom is very light tone and currently im caught a natural tan because i farm vegetables 😂🤙🤙
whats wrong with liking fair skin? it looks nice. why do you have to have like every color equally? there will always be a main stream preferred color.
There is nothing wrong with liking something. I'm a straight guy. I find most women pretty to absolutely beautiful. However, I do not turn around and call anyone who isn't what I like some disrespectful name or gatekeep access to good jobs/education/opportunities from them because it.
@@Cyberpunk644 No. It takes zero effort not be a disrespectful asshole. Liking something does not mean I have carte blanche to hate what doesn't appeal to me.
In HK China or other Asian countries, I think it’s normal to look for not too dark Coz it means our colour originally is yellow (no matter it’s light or dark) We prefer lighter colour more due to in ancient, working class like farmers had to go under the sun which were less preferrable It’s not about the racist issue in the west (which were really sick)
Oh, it absolutely becomes a racist issue in China when folks who aren't Chinese walk into the picture. The things that were being said by the government and locals about Africans working in China during the pandemic was repulsive.
False you repeating what the uneducated tells you to ignore or dismiss the fact that racism exist and yes is bc Chinese or Asians want to be white...so. this Channel is repeating whitewashed propaganda
That comes from classism and classism is just as bad as racism if you really think about it. All these ism's are separations between us, when in reality, on a deeper, fundamental consciousness level, we are completely interconnected and part of a Oneness while being unique/different. If a person questions this unity, then they need to ask themselves, how can two particles separated by more space and time than light can travel within that time/space, be affected the same, simultaneously at the same time? This implies at a deeper level of reality, there is an interconnectedness at a very fundamental/core level.
I don't think I've ever met an Asian family that looks down on their own family member because of their darker skin complexion. If there is one, then they are one messed up family. I don't know where that British Research is going with it, but it sounds weird to say the least.
Whites/UK/Europeans always have an agenda with their studies. It's to exploit division amongst Asians. They always want to see themselves as superior, so colorism/racism in this way always benefits them. That's why it's important to genuinely embrace and love what is particular to your own aesthetics and identity. Olive skin, almond eyes, flat/rounded nose. It should be the beauty standard. Otherwise they will always rule/win. Love yourself as created
the individuals were mostly south asian. But skin bleach is actually increasing in sales... I think I read that its about to double in sales between 2020 - 2026
When I was growing up filipino girls were always open to dating white guys. It was thought that a half white half Asian baby was going to a home run looks wise for the children. Today I don’t think it’s as prominent.
Yeah, colorism plays a part but not as much as the facial features, esp the eyes, I guess. East Asians have the best skin tone for me - not too light nor too dark.
Yep, but some have moor blood on the southern side of things and the race of the moors has kind of been debated in regard to their color/race, etc. Just because a person is white, it doesn't mean they can't be dark just like a black person isn't always dark and can appear white to the eye depending on where they're from and so on.
My partner is Northern Italian. He looks white but doesn't consider himself or his family as white. I think he sees that as an American concept. He just says he's Italian or European.
It complicated, there isn’t even an Italian gene south Italians genetically are more similar to the Jews and Greek island people like Cypriots and Cretans while North Italians are more similar to South French and the Spanish. There is little to zero admixture from the Germans and Austrians And central Italians resemble mainland Greeks and Albanians the most in terms of genetic similarity An average genetic distance between a Calabrian and an English person is 14, their genetic distance from a Persian Person from Iran or a Kurdish person from Iraq would be around 10-12….so they are just as close to North Europeans as they are to west Asians North Italians is a different story
@@AnXX94 it depends on which region you are from. Calabrians have more Levant admixture from the Jews and Levant Arabs, while Sicilians have less Levant and more North Africa. Apulia has more Greek
But colorism in a positive manner amongs asians is koo though because it lets us know who are who came from where or what not and so on if you posses that natural quality to tan under the sun without ever having sunburns or skin problems it means you are outdoorsy and if you are light skinned and pale as hell and almost white adjacent You’re avoiding the sun for damn sure 😂 🌞🌞🌞😂🤣 Tai-Lao Tony 😆🤝🤝🤝
Yeah, I'm white living in America, and it's funny, but most of the white people I know, want to be more tan. I do somewhat also, not for a looks thing, but so I don't burn in the sun as much (practical reasons). It can be very frustrating (and painful) burning even with applying plenty of sunscreen. Plus, it seems like with the non mineral sunscreens, there may be health side effects. I love the water, especially the ocean. Dunno, but there is just something about humans and a common, "grass is always greener on the other side" type mentality. We often want what we don't have and aren't happy with what we do have.
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Is the Asians wearing that color and that they were actually black they went dark skin they weren't actually quite like you see now.
I remember the time when my late grandma told me, “you and your oldest sister have darker skin than your other siblings but know that you’re just as beautiful”. Didn’t really understand how important those words were until I got older.
Yo, major props to your grandma with that support. That means so much to a child in the face of all this.
I appreciate that you're tackling this uncomfortable topic.
I can't count the times my grandparents told me to avoid the sun because otherwise, I would look like a peasant from the rice fields.
Lmaooo
I remember I used to not give a sh*t about my skin. As I get older, my skin got darker. But it could also be due to my hygiene and diet. My skin was producing oil and I didn't wash my pillow cover as often as my blanket. But I didn't know oil sticking on pillow was a thing.
It felt like my family treated me less favourably unconsciouscly/without realising. Love isn't unconditional. I used to use something like kojic acid for like 2 months and stop because I felt like it was fake, the only thing it did was irritating my skin, but maybe it kind of reset the melanin level and the sun damage to give me a new start. So I decided to only stick with sunscreen and basic skin care. My skin is now lighter than it used to and I do feel like I'm treated more favourably. My skin now isn't like white as a paper sheet, but I'm really happy with the ratio and I'm really happy that I don't have to use skin bleaching or any of such product, just basic stuff like sunscreen, cleanser, moisturizer.
It's a tough topic overall, personally I wouldn't like to bronze in the sun and look dark, I don't think it looks good for my overall appearance too. I've heard many white people saying that asians are racist and wants to be like them as if they are really wanted, but I have to explain them that asians just want to look like other attractive asians, when you see asians get surgery, they won't start looking like caucasian and there's many asians that have naturally light skin like my mom who's really allergic to sunscreen(I didn't believe her, we tried all kind of sunscreen, her skin gets really red at the applied area), but her skin is like white(color not race) and she always get sun bathe in the morning because she likes it.
Even in slavery, the house negro was more then likely the fair skinned. These traditions go back to Egypt. The paintings on the walls represented field workers with dark skinned and light skinned represented non working people. But Ive felt like it was tactical for colonizers to get people to turn on each other.
We as Afro-centric and Latino people do the same thing in our families Big Time. Even my wife (Filipina) & Sister were said to have " Unggoy tails"( Monkey tails) because of their brown skin when they were young by lighter skinned relatives.
Breh that gave me flashbacks. I remember the Filipino church aunties would tell us as kids to get out the sun to avoid getting dark. They’d gossip saying “oh you’d look more handsome if you were lighter” and would recommend skin lightening soaps 😂 like damn Tita, I’m only 13 and just cared about playing sports outdoors lmaooo
Please look up what group of people are born with working wagging tails.
you guys are very informative on Asian topics. Literally one of the best channels in the sphere
I’ve been told multiple times that in some parts of East Asia like Korea, people call people “Filipino” as an insult… I think it’s partially because of being viewed as “the help” but definitely also because of colorism.
I'm Southeast Asian, aka Jungle Asian, so I have darker skin. But it's true, lighter skinned or half white Asians in that part of world are being held in high standards than us mortal Asians. In Thailand for example, many of their celebrities are either light skinned or half Caucasians.
Same with media in the Philippines they value those who are for the most part half European although these days more and more “pure” people are rising up the ladder.
I’m SOUTHEAST ASIAN.
Who call us Jungle ppl? We Asian & Southeast Asian is BEAUTIFUL & SMART AS WELL.
Who dare to call Asian jungle ppl?? They’re just ignorant, racist & jealous!!
Btw, SOUTHEAST ASIAN CAN HAVE WISE-RANGE LOOKS & SKINTONE, from white skin to medium skin to light brown/tanskin to medium brown skin.
Btw, mostly Asian like light skin because we naturally have light skin as well. Light white skin is not mean WHITE PPL OR WANNABE WHITE PPL.
Asian like white skin though generation long before White ppl ever enter to Asia continental. WHO SAY ASIAN WITH LIGHT SKIN IS OBSESSED BY WHITE IS BULLSHIT.
It’s pretty common among Chinese to tell their kids to not play outside, or else they will get too dark and “look Phillipino.”
Lucy Liu said that.
If you look at Bollywood.. you hardly see any top
actors/actresses that are dark skinned
Very courageous of you to touch this topic...Asia is obsessed with white skin, your color decides if you get media representation, power position or attention from opposite sex.
All the East Asian have light skinned, they are even lighter than most European. They prefer lighter skinned is all about Asian culture. The standard of beauty in Asia is being young and cute, and Looks younger is better. That’s why they extremely to keep the looks in age 5,looks clean, bright, pale and with no wrinkles, freckles and pimples…they don’t like white peoples skin because aged easily.
@@ἀπόστολος14 you are definitely one of the good Asians, now your assimilationist is complete,we welcome you as an honorary member of the Caucasian community! 😒
@@lilywu6208 Look fresh and cute like age 5, but be wise like a 100 years, right? Virtually the essence of Confucian metaphysics, but white peoples not understand.
@@lilywu6208 they bleach their skin. Japanese men have stopped bleaching now since brown skin is seen as masculine. Japanese women still bleach skin
@@lilywu6208 I don't think all east asian have light skin, there's variation between them. I'm south east asian (vietnamese), many vietnamese have light skin and many have dark skin. I met a korean girl who at first, I thought she was filipino, but she told me she's korean and I was surprised.
I now live in Canada, my mom has really light skin(lighter than European like you described and she looks really young and beautiful). Thanks to her genes, I've had many girls asking me out :), sadly they were mostly white locals as there were no asians in my school (I do agree white people age lot faster, but I feel like white women age much faster compared to their white men)
One time a black girl ask me if I was chinese or korean, when I told her I'm vietnamese, she was uninterested right away(korean porpaganda, but I'm not into korean media nor against it, that was just my experience)
Here's something that I believe many people outside the Afro-Centric experience may not know. Many African Americans used to go thru the "Paper bag" test. If you were lighter than a brown paper bag, you were more accepted than those darker than a paper bag. Look it up.
Colorism is alive and well in all minority communities around the world 🌎. Some Asians do want to be white!
Thank you for covering this topic; much needed. ✌
I mean, this happens even in black families. There's a reason so many people tend to idolize having mixed kids.
Mmmmm..... not really!
Not true.!!! That's very uncommon. Very rare.
The Germans in WW2 basically considered Japanese "as good as whites" so I can see how that mentality carried into the US back in the day in terms of discrimination of Chinese vs. Japanese vs. Korean, etc.
Bleaching products are a billion-dollar industry in S.E. Asia, especially in the Philippines. I saw bleaching agents even in some foods while living there LOL.
Damn.... in the food!!!!!!
@@invisiblerevolution indeed! But it's not toxic (allegedly).
@@justacontrarian
Eat your way to light skin! LoL
CRAZY 🤪 WORLD
@@invisiblerevolution TBH, many of those products are ineffective LOL.
FOOD???
Their faces when they talked about hot import nights LOL had me cracking out loud
But yes agree about colorism!!!
My siblings are all fair skin and I’m more medium tan!!! Heard it all my life!
I’m Filipino and most my family is light skin but some are more tan naturally or cause they go outside more and it’s so weird how different you get treated.
Economic, colonialism & class are factors. In Japan, according to my friend Masato, darker skin can signify that you’re a poor fisherman or come from Okinawa. In Latin America, where people lost their native tongues to colonization, it’s worse. As a FilAm, I experienced it from my moms side of the family a lot. My dad’s dark skinned, but my mom has that light East Asian skin tone. I remember my Chinese aunt describing my skin tone as a “beautiful golden brown.” That’s something that impacted me in a very positive way.
My mom is half Indian. Her mom was Irish & Black. We have all the colors in my family and all hair textures. In my family, they only care about how educated we are. My dad is dark skinned Black, and his mom was Black & Chinese . I'm very dark skinned like him with monolids and big curly hair. People think I'm wearing a wig because they're not used to dark-skinned people with curly hair like mine. I'm often referred to as the Black Chinese girl by people who know my parents, but in my family, we don't have color issues.
Im Thai but have fair skin. When I lived in Thailand, I was considered attractive because my skin was so light but back in Hawaii, I had to get a tan cause that’s considered sexier and my light skin too pale looking 😂
Individual personal dynamics are often determined by the smaller fishbowls we inhabit in this seemingly limitless game map of life!
Interesting... As someone who is half white half Asian, but more on the light to medium skin tone, I have experienced colorism, but mainly be older Asian people, like grandparents. For example, I have been told, "wow you have beautiful Eurasian features, you could model, too bad you are so tan!"
LoL.... damn! They said that?
@@invisiblerevolution Yup, and I was like 12 years old. Definitely made me wear sunscreen after that... ngl. But now I'm a lot more confident, but it literally took YEARS. That comment really messed me up, especially cause in our culture we are taught to respect our elders.
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God bless you 🙏🏽
THANKS for sharing your insight.
This is real. Not only that but in the Philippines you’re more favoured when you have the “chinito” features with the eyes 😂
Absolutely that is a thing, and people who say otherwise are lying.
Seriously, you don't get a multi-billion dollar industry around this by accident. They're producing products with whitening agents (which are harmful to the skin) and convincing people darker skin (which is objectively good for you) is bad, or associated with negative life outcomes.
Yeah East Asians more specifically before Western European Colonialism prefered people with light skin tones but with typical East Asiatic features, featurettes, appearances, or looks as the beauty standard in there societies anybody without those outward shows were not seen as good mating partners nor people to spend the rest of there lives with nowadays though and ever since West Euro take overs now they want to look West European with Pale skin and either blonde, golden, brown, red, orange, amber, ginger, strawberry, or auburn hair colors with blue or green eyes yeah.
If you want to distinguish Europe based on skin tone, a north south divide makes more sense than an east west. West And East makes no sense. A lot of Germans and Dutch look like Poles and Belarusians and a lot of Greeks and Albanians look Spaniards and Portuguese
Many white peoples dye hair for some reasons,too. Many of Asian women dye the grey hair for the younger looking or being unique.
@@danielalbo3781 Correct, even the animosity typically tends to be along those lines as well. For example, the E.U. had to stomp out nasty ass assumptions about Southern Europeans being lazy and untrustworthy of additional financial support by the Northern countries. The headlines from then were ugly as hell.
@@RicochetForce that’s more cultural, and I agree however. Greeks and Kurds have more in common than Greeks have with Germans and Dutch
Your video was very informative and respectful with a neutral perspective. It will reach many communities in a positive way. Hopefully we can collaborate on some projects in the future.
I born in Taiwan, and I have the light skins because my dad looks like a Caucasian. I always got praised by neighbors or relatives such as “ you are so cute and white” etc
looks caucsian? is he cantonese?
I lived in Taiwan for 2 years and that was the n1 compliment I would get. Apparently it has to do with classism, if you are dark it used to mean you spent a lot of time outside, therefore you were most likely a peasant
"Oh wow. So proud of him, he's very educated, good looking, with personality, successful... he's got everything but.......... just a little too dark." (Heard this at 29 years old from my uncle.)
"Oh, what!? THIS is your son? Really? Can't be your son. Oh.... but why is he so dark?" (I heard that at 7 years old from my mom's cousin she hadn't seen after many years.)
My mom = fair skinned aristocratic-type mestiza heavy Spanish blooded Filipina with an intact upper class nuclear family. Super sheltered. Pageant queen.
My dad = darker skinned mixed Hakka broken Chinese family and grew up in the Philippines. Sold peanuts and pan de sal on the streets as a child.
Totally from opposite sides of the railroad tracks. Somehow, some way pops swung the longoniza-lapxiong energy and they fell in love.
Goes without saying much colorism and lookism still exists in my fam, albeit in the older generations. I suppose old habits die hard.
How to overcome negative stereotypes that can bring you down??? ***Get good at stuff*** Uplift yourself in any way...many ways. Increase opportunities for compliments and accolades. Naturally, your self esteem increases. Eventually, the negative tones get drowned out and imbalanced.
Like the homie Andrew said, you might have to get away.
If you can afford it, travel! Move. Get in where you fit in!!! BUT DEFINITELY DO NOT HATE. Or harbor the hate from those negative ideas you may have internalized growing up. That just makes you turn into an ass that nobody likes. Don't continue the negative cycle. Drop the weight from the baggage and you really lift-off to higher heights of increased success!
REMEMBER: For guys, the secret to bigger balls is success. 👊😎
Although, you can also be well loved and liked by looking mestizo like my bros 🤣 Yo, people would literally "offer" their daughters to my parents for them. It was kind of hilarious. Straight up trying to work out arrange marriages. No joke. I'm pretty sure others with similar backgrounds understand.
“Just a little too dark” - seems like coming from a place of envy and insecurity.
Nonetheless, you’re spot on as an ethnic Filipino myself coming from somehow the same background
Shout-out to YOU GUYS for making videos like these to demystify this stuff
This definitely didn't need a study but im glad you're talking about it
Brings back memories of seeing all the aunties in the 626 sporting the welding mask/ visors.
Growing up in NYC with very diversesurroundings, I learned to appreciate my dark skin. One of my earlier girlfriends who was a Russian-Jew got mad that I told myself I look too dark in our photos, she got offended because I said it as I was ugly. She wouldn’t go out with someone ugly, that was her argument, 🤷♂️. Plus, I look like Latino half a time so I call myself “International man”, 😁.
Mr. Worldwide would be a better fit 😎
I am a Southeast Asian (Cambodian) and have mixed background from grandparents who came from Mainland China, South Asia(maybe India) and native Khmer. My mother is light-skinned and my father is dark-skinned. I came out the darkest-skinned, more than my brothers. My mother only care about my skin colour because it is not perceived well socially, so she pushed me to care for my skin more as in make it lighter and hide from the sun. When I went out with her, she was asked if I was a kid she picked up from the countryside 😂 So, growing up I was never comfortable in my ‘skin’ and it’s hard on women, especially. Typical life of a dark kid in SEA. It’s better now, skin tones are not considered anymore.
Why Asian women like western men? In my experience, i get bashed/made fun of by Asian men a lot because of my skin colour (perceived as poor and ugly) when westerners don’t and told me how they love my skin colour (both from men and women).
I don’t mind those opinions anymore and I respect everyone’s preferences.
Thanks for your comment, it's very interesting. I'm vietnamese guy and my experience isn't as bad because I grew up in Canada. My mom have very light skin(she's also hyper-allergic to sunscreen) while my dad is dark in color as well. My sister is lighter skin. I didn't care about my skin color till I grew up in my teens and due to my life style such as hygiene, diet, hydration, sleep schedule and just aging probably played a role my skin got darker. I felt like my family treated me less favourably unconsciouscly.
I tried using kojic acid for like 2 months and avoid direct sun exposure, wearing sunscreen, using cleanser and moisturizer. But I dropped the kojic acid because I felt like I was lying about my real appearance and it was burning my skin, but since I dropped and till 2 years after, my skin still looks lighter than it used to and I'm happy with the ratio right now and the fact that I don't have to depend on an active ingredient to make my skin lighter. It's probably due to the fact I take better care of myself.
It's true that westerners have less colorism, but it still exist, when my skin was darker, people were more wary of me, but you're probably less likely to experience that wariness since you're a girl, it's different experience for a male.
There's colorism in every race.
This is definitely self-evident, don't need an academic study for people to realize this. There's a reason products like skin whitening creams are so prevalent in both East Asia and South Asian countries. Lighter complexion is considered beautiful and more desirable, but I suspect this type of judgement disproportionately affects women more than men because guys that are overly pale are deemed effeminate and may appear more sickly.
I grew up most of my life in the US but when I was working in Japan I saw posters for eye rounding surgery and skin bleaching. I also remember watching blonde blue eyed anime growing up like Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon…seems like that’s gotta be influenced in part by wanting to be more European.
You guys are on the money. Colorism happens in black families in the U.S
I love my family, my family of variety ❤ of beautiful shades of flowers. A bit of this and a bit of that from our Great creator God.
Only too real. Indian's (and Pakistanis - who are the same people) will often include shades of skin color in their dating/marriage profiles! Hahah.
Perfect example.
"wheatish" I remember seeing that word for the first time
Dark skin is beautiful
I think all skin tones are beautiful. Light light to darkest dark and everything in between. They all represent nature adapting and changing in response to environmental pressures--there is a beauty of harmony there. I don't think any skin tone should be put above, or below, any other.
@@justinw1765 I agree but this video talking about is anti-dark, so I had to defend dark skin. Lol
@@justinw1765 1 year ago and this comment still missed the point of the original guys comment
also yes this is true. even with black ppl, it was desired to be light-skinned as a kid. light skinneds were generally considered to be better looking. At least light skinned black women tend to look better. But dark skinned blackk women are fine too
Yup, the black community has drilled won and cast a light on just how bad and pervasive the colorism is. Props to them for doing that uncomfortable work.
That is not true. Most Black women that are propped up by black men as beautiful are dark. Lupita Nyango, Amara language, naomi Campbell etc..
WS took its toll on all of us.
Other counties and cultures view dark skin to be dirty. I guess they never heard of melanin and pigmentation.
I heard this in many Asian cultures. Not everybody feels this way....but still.
Colorism existed in my family. An ABC with natural olive skin and scolded by family for being tanned every summer. Constantly confused for being from the Philippines - from Latinos, blacks and my Chinese peeps.
Bruh. Stop capping. Two of the most popular, nose jobs (rhinoplasty) and eyelid lifts (blepharoplasty), are specially designed to make these features look more Caucasian. Asians generally have wider and flatter noses. Asian rhinoplasty narrows the nose and makes it project more, similar to a European look. Asians desire the Caucasian look
Yep. But people will do mental gymnastics saying that’s not true and act like they have no idea what you’re talking about. Colorism. What colorism? Gaslighting tf out of you. Only when somebody attack them for their skin tone and racially is when it would be acknowledged. When that happens, act like you don’t know what they’re talking about rite back.
There’s definitely a lot of misconception about asian aesthetics being about being “white” in the way Americans think of the word. Asians don’t call white people “white” they call them “foreign.” When they say “white” they are refrring to skin tone. Having light skin, tall nose, and big eyes as a desirable aesthetic in chinese literature predates the european colonial era. The notion that these have to do with wanting to look like white people is just a coincidence. It’s like saying white women wanting “tall, dark and handsome” is because they like black guys. Or white people wanting to look younger is them trying to look asian.
BULLSHIT.
The aesthetics you like are not describing your own appearance. Light skin, tall nose, big eyes are not Asian. When do you love/desire your own aesthetics? Olive skin, almond eye, short/flat nose? What's wrong with loving you as you are?
@@ezpic2 You kind of fell into the trapping of what I was originally trying to point out, it's not about not looking asian. The traits are relative to the average not in absolute terms compared to other races. There are plenty of very light skinned asians and "tall nose" just means non flat slightly elevated nose bridge, not Adrian Brody nose. There are also plenty of asians with bigger eyes (relative to other asians) and natural double eyelids. What is considered beautiful culturally is almost never the "average." Jews and Middle eastern people get a lot of nose reduction surgeries. White people get face lifts and botox when they naturally have more wrinkly skin, they're hairier but get waxed, black people favor lighter skin. etc. It's not about not liking your own race, there just happens to be different beauty standards for different kinds of people. The variation among groups are harder to see for other groups but within the group the differences are much more apparent.
@@ezpic2huh? Then who are Asians trying to look like them?
@@bigheadrhino "it's not about hating your own race" I'm sorry, but how the heck does having a beauty standards that's the exact opposite of the average person of your own "race" doesn't amount to hating your own "race"?
Important to have dialogues like this.
Lol damn heres my 3rd comment i just wanna say as a south east asian brother of tai-lao descent ive met and seen Asians with almost every known skin tone from lightskin pale light brown reddish tone to black almost and i just wanna say to all you asian brothers and sisters that you guys are still handsome and beautiful and in terms of looks I don’t think we are that selective when it came down to mating and breeding eachother out over the centuries and thats how we came to be 🌭🍩🥹💛 theres an old saying “TWO ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE DONT ALWAYS MAKE THE PERFECT SOUL” 😉☺️
Great and fun topic! It's quite a classic in Philippine entertainment & media to see fair-skinned folks taking center stage! 😄
It’s nothing about American things which is about white and black peoples,nothing about colonialism because East Asian have never been colonized by any western country. It’s all about Asian culture. The standard of beauty is young and cute looking. All the Asian women just want to be themselves when they are 5 which skin look clean, bright,pale and smooth, with no wrinkles, pimples, freckles and moles. Actually, Asian women prefer light skinned but not like white people.
France, England, Spain, and Russia have entered the chat. I agree to some extent but Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Loas, the Philippines, Hong Kong, parts of Mongolia, and Burma were all impacted to varying extents. Depends on where you draw the line on what constitutes East Asia. Each have their preferences and some take it to an extreme where it is no longer just pale but sickly white (next two levels) are preferred traits.
@@rockfish678 Bruh not one of those are East Asian countries. When people say East Asia they're referring to Japanese, Korean, and Chinese. All those countries you listed are SE Asian.
well it more northern European thing because every one was pale and you could not get tan unless you're are rich once northern european countries industrialized. For me As white person I prefer light skin. what be called light beige. East Asians go all the way to white skin. With me olive skin is took dark and nothing special about it. In fact with raise homelessness in us it hard to argue that tan is sign wealth. Ever time I see Kim Kardashian I think she need put on some sun screen because she is too dark.
honestly with this topic, probably another good topic to cover is stuff like mixed asians and the experience in different places if you're like, half or something.
And THIS is why I’m hopeless in finding an Asian bf. I’m genuinely attracted to them but
I don’t think I’ll receive the same energy back. Such beautiful people smh. 😢 it’s like the only “Asian” thing I have going for me is my eye shape and my style. ButI think I’ll get turned down bc I’m “dark skinned”.
Check out Asian Black Couples Only, Black Asian Families with Children, and various other Asian & Black groups. Black Filipino Family etc etc. There's quite a few Asian men with Afro-Centric wives or girlfriends:)
Nuff respect for embracing this topic 👏
Keeping it #FungTrue
This is DEFINITELY an issue with Cambodian families. Anybody feel me on that one?
Lol, happens all the time in American black families. We were 11kids DNA , African, Native American and Irish. One sister has straight up African features, course hair facial features, body types you couldplace her in the middle of AFRICA and you wouldn't able to tell the difference . One brother had Native features, the skin of southwest Natives American but in summer his body hair turned blonde .Another sister features were European especially her face. I'm what was called back in the day" light,bright not quite white" often asked if I'm hispanic. We all picked on each other for certain traits especially by relatives who would call out the difference.
A Vietnamese friend said their parents didn't want them to get dark like Cambodians. 😂
Hawaii prefer darker skin …. Does not matter if you are asian!
They like tan not dark. Tan and dark are different shades. Tan is glowing sun kissed. Dark is black or near black.
Ok... but you grew up as East Asian guys. Perhaps it would be different for East Asian girls.
I don't think fair skin is as big of a deal for East Asian guys as it is for East Asian girls. The moms would probably tell their daughters to stay in the shade and not play in the sun...
I realize this video is 1 year old but it's pretty funny to have an entire conversation about colorism in THE WORLD and left out any countries with the most color and sometimes the worst, physically damaging colorism... the Caribbeans and Africa. Overall you guys kinda dodge these conversations. An episode on Black and Asian relations would be interesting or even another Blasian conversation not sure if you have the references or friends for this though.
I'm black but I found this is very interesting to know I didn't know it was that deep I know. Colorism but I just didn't know it was that deep in the Asian community
16:54 Nigeria shout out 🇳🇬👍🏾
I would agree that it's not about looking white but looking light, if they weren't getting eyelid surgery and wearing blue contacts and dying their hair blonde.
My cantonese mother criticized my summertime dark tan when I was a teenager.
People can claim "internalization" until everyone gets tired of it.
To all the Asian Bros & Sis here, here's a movie you may want to check out in my African American Community involving Colorism. Now it's just a movie but a lot of Truth in its context. Spike Lee's 'School Daze'. With all the dynamics that go along with our experience with Colorism which in cludes hair texture. Just like you the dynamics of levels of Social acceptance and status in conjunction with skin tone. We also have a saying in our community.
If you're White, you're right. If you're Brown, you stick around. If you're Black, you're back. Sad indeed.
Skin color prejudice is very common in Thailand.
no, I disagree, what if someone with green or blue skin? or purple skin? will you treat them the same way?
The hight cast Indian usually have a much lighter skin tone and white looking appear
I moved from Indonesia where I struggled to find skin products without bleach to the UK where people get fake tans before going on night outs 😂
Sure, everyone has their own opinion or preference as to what they consider a beauty (beauty is in the eyes of the beholders right?) but I’ve never found another culture where people think it’s okay for total strangers to comment on someone’s physical attributes as candidly as in Asia. One example was I was accompanying my Mom to a traditional market and the tofu lady said “Oh, is that your daughter? Wowww she’s so beautiful, skin so white, so smooth, so healthy” 🙄 mmm and I was standing right there. And we were strangers! People would also leave public comments on FB photos “have you put on some weight?” Like, seriously? What about this amazing waterfall that I’ve just spent hours hiking to?
I had friends tell me kids in Japan and Korea call them dirty, or ask why they haven't washed their skin while on trips to Japan. This shit gets taught to kids EARLY.
5:19 Andrew is Trying not to laugh at the accent david is using
Yup, it went from from sudden shock to a desperate attempt to stifle the laugh.
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I think this version of Andrew's hair style is better.
It’s a big thing in Vietnamese communities.
So true.
I think this issue is honestly overblown regarding East Asia. The narrative of colorism in the US comes from the perspective of racism and colorism that black people in America face. But you can't just transfer that same line of thinking to say that this is even similar. It's not. Young Koreans living in cities are diligent about skin care because our grandparents worked on farms and experienced sun damage. It's not usually from some internally racist feelings where we manifest the idea that "light skin aka white skin is genetically superior". Now that doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist. But it's a leap to think that this is the primary reason.
Has nothing to do with racism, has to do with classism. Back in the day, people who worked in the fields were obviously darker.
The “thought” process was the lighter you are, the “higher class” you are.
That's a thing in the Black community. And in a way, that is how racism became. White was better because it meant you get treated better and are higher class. Watch "Passing" and "The Imitation of Life". I think the difference is, with colorism those White or light skin don't necessarily consider those darker are lower than dirt and not human.
Nah, this was a thing during the last millennia before racism was a thing. Some people claim it’s a “wanting to a whte person” attitude when it’s far from it.
It's not either classisssm, colorism, or racism.
It's a gross mix of all three.
Pale skin has been ascribed positive significance and importance that it should never have had. By who? By pale skinned people who considered anyone who wasn't them subhuman. This is coiorism.
These people also extended these beliefs to the physical features the rest of the person has, and extended the value judgement even further. At this point it's full blown racism.
Now, those with the pale skin who consider those who aren't that subhuman now control industry, media, education, and the routes to power and success. And it was in their best interest to stifle, ruin, and hobble everyone else. All while, in their own media, portraying themselves as the most beautiful, the most intelligent, the most skilled. Boom, now you have classism where access to resources and a better lot in life is determined by financial resources. And one malicious group controls access to this.
BS...that's false all to do with RACISM, the white supremacist colonizers went global. You simply repeating WHITEWASHED OR A FALSE NARRATIVE...like what the treasonous confederate rightwing white supremacist or "conservative" republikkkan grifters that DECREASE EDUCATION AND WHITEWASHED HISTORY in regards to Chatel slavery etc etc and what they are doing now...please stop that BS its a dismissal or intent to excuse the FACTS that Asian especially Chinese are very racist
This would make sense if the features of the ancient times were still sought after. Explain the high nose, big eyes and pale skin? That’s white features.
Look at this !
My mom didn't care about the color of my skin so she let me just run around outside and get super tan every summer as a kid. I kind of wish she didn't since I feel like even though I'm relatively attractive in Western countries, I wouldn't be if I ever moved to Asia because I'm too dark I think for most people's preferences and not nearly as skinny as the average Asian woman :/
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@14:22 Haggis is Scottish...
You guys are still not being honest. It IS because you want to be white/european. Everything white/european in your culture is lifted up. You actually say european people are gorgeous in your advertisements, and in employment? The real question is why you don't love yourselves as you actually are.
Not just darker skin tones. I have pale skin from my white side and still rejected by members in my Asian side. I know I am not “Asian” since I am mixed but damn, didn’t even want to get to know me at all lol. Think it is case by case.
10: Mexico 🇲🇽- class society along ethnic lines.
Lol 😂colorism is real among asians :For southeast asians Light-Pale skin is associated with chinese, east asians, or the other asian minorities that came from china with that skin tone such as myself Lao Tai-kadai being one of them. but overtime we already intermarried and assimilated with the native southeasterners and its true though if you talk to the native southeast asians who were there first such as the khmer burmese mon suay matryad etc before other asians arrived to SE asia they’ll tell you that too because light brown to dark brown and even black is their common standard. Hahahaha but yeah my dad is brown and my mom is very light tone and currently im caught a natural tan because i farm vegetables 😂🤙🤙
Let's make east and south Asia different continents.
This guy's Moto is how easy is good that south 😂.
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whats wrong with liking fair skin? it looks nice. why do you have to have like every color equally? there will always be a main stream preferred color.
There's nothing wrong with liking anything. The problem starts when people who like one look insult everyone who doesn't have that look.
@@insertname2035 there will always be ugly people, too bad.
There is nothing wrong with liking something.
I'm a straight guy. I find most women pretty to absolutely beautiful.
However, I do not turn around and call anyone who isn't what I like some disrespectful name or gatekeep access to good jobs/education/opportunities from them because it.
@@RicochetForce such is life bro
@@Cyberpunk644 No. It takes zero effort not be a disrespectful asshole. Liking something does not mean I have carte blanche to hate what doesn't appeal to me.
same as latino families
Brainwashing, and go to attack.😅
One of the most classic cases of colonialism in Asian families are Vietnamese Catholics
In HK China or other Asian countries, I think it’s normal to look for not too dark
Coz it means our colour originally is yellow (no matter it’s light or dark)
We prefer lighter colour more due to in ancient, working class like farmers had to go under the sun which were less preferrable
It’s not about the racist issue in the west (which were really sick)
Oh, it absolutely becomes a racist issue in China when folks who aren't Chinese walk into the picture. The things that were being said by the government and locals about Africans working in China during the pandemic was repulsive.
False you repeating what the uneducated tells you to ignore or dismiss the fact that racism exist and yes is bc Chinese or Asians want to be white...so. this Channel is repeating whitewashed propaganda
That comes from classism and classism is just as bad as racism if you really think about it. All these ism's are separations between us, when in reality, on a deeper, fundamental consciousness level, we are completely interconnected and part of a Oneness while being unique/different.
If a person questions this unity, then they need to ask themselves, how can two particles separated by more space and time than light can travel within that time/space, be affected the same, simultaneously at the same time? This implies at a deeper level of reality, there is an interconnectedness at a very fundamental/core level.
I don't think I've ever met an Asian family that looks down on their own family member because of their darker skin complexion. If there is one, then they are one messed up family. I don't know where that British Research is going with it, but it sounds weird to say the least.
Whites/UK/Europeans always have an agenda with their studies. It's to exploit division amongst Asians. They always want to see themselves as superior, so colorism/racism in this way always benefits them.
That's why it's important to genuinely embrace and love what is particular to your own aesthetics and identity. Olive skin, almond eyes, flat/rounded nose. It should be the beauty standard. Otherwise they will always rule/win.
Love yourself as created
the individuals were mostly south asian. But skin bleach is actually increasing in sales... I think I read that its about to double in sales between 2020 - 2026
When I was growing up filipino girls were always open to dating white guys. It was thought that a half white half Asian baby was going to a home run looks wise for the children. Today I don’t think it’s as prominent.
Yeah, colorism plays a part but not as much as the facial features, esp the eyes, I guess. East Asians have the best skin tone for me - not too light nor too dark.
I can’t believe colorism is a thing. What next, heightism? Weightism?
I mean, they are things.
Uh, those are very much things. Humans are fucking vain, hateful, and prone to compartmentalization. In-group vs outgroup tribal nonsense.
Literally..... everything you named is a thing!
7:45 interesting statement. Thought it was
Italians are white..
Italy is next to Austria, France and Switzerland... lol
Yep, but some have moor blood on the southern side of things and the race of the moors has kind of been debated in regard to their color/race, etc. Just because a person is white, it doesn't mean they can't be dark just like a black person isn't always dark and can appear white to the eye depending on where they're from and so on.
Italy is also next to tunesia nearby north Africa. Nothing is wrong with being colored!
My partner is Northern Italian. He looks white but doesn't consider himself or his family as white. I think he sees that as an American concept. He just says he's Italian or European.
It complicated, there isn’t even an Italian gene
south Italians genetically are more similar to the Jews and Greek island people like Cypriots and Cretans while North Italians are more similar to South French and the Spanish. There is little to zero admixture from the Germans and Austrians
And central Italians resemble mainland Greeks and Albanians the most in terms of genetic similarity
An average genetic distance between a Calabrian and an English person is 14, their genetic distance from a Persian Person from Iran or a Kurdish person from Iraq would be around 10-12….so they are just as close to North Europeans as they are to west Asians
North Italians is a different story
@@AnXX94 it depends on which region you are from. Calabrians have more Levant admixture from the Jews and Levant Arabs, while Sicilians have less Levant and more North Africa. Apulia has more Greek
Oriental/Asian face just looks better in fair skins. with darker skin, they look more ancient/savage like. Caucasian face looks good with tan skin
But colorism in a positive manner amongs asians is koo though because it lets us know who are who came from where or what not and so on if you posses that natural quality to tan under the sun without ever having sunburns or skin problems it means you are outdoorsy and if you are light skinned and pale as hell and almost white adjacent You’re avoiding the sun for damn sure 😂 🌞🌞🌞😂🤣 Tai-Lao Tony 😆🤝🤝🤝
Filipinos have papaya soap, which makes their skin whiter. My cousins from the motherland are always asking why Americans go tanning lmao
Yeah, the prevalent of Papaya Soap usages here in the Philippines, predated the Spanish Colonization and much more correlated to Classism.
Hala sya hindi na kami ganyan ka cheap papaya soap?! 😅😅😅glutathione tablet na kami ngayon oi😂 😂😂nagkalat nyan sa drug store.
Yeah, I'm white living in America, and it's funny, but most of the white people I know, want to be more tan. I do somewhat also, not for a looks thing, but so I don't burn in the sun as much (practical reasons). It can be very frustrating (and painful) burning even with applying plenty of sunscreen. Plus, it seems like with the non mineral sunscreens, there may be health side effects. I love the water, especially the ocean.
Dunno, but there is just something about humans and a common, "grass is always greener on the other side" type mentality. We often want what we don't have and aren't happy with what we do have.