We CAN'T Agree On the New 2024 Volvo XC60 Recharge!

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  • Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
  • ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this video, Tommy and Roman check out the latest 2024 Volvo XC60 Recharge Black Edition. It takes on heavyweight names in the luxury SUV space from BMW, Audi and Mercedes among many others, with a price tag to match.
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  • @Spoolingturbski
    @Spoolingturbski 10 днів тому +14

    I’m glad Tommy checked Roman on babbling without knowing what he’s talking about. Volvo is premium. They build exquisite luxury products.

  • @Cedricmaker
    @Cedricmaker 10 днів тому +15

    Compare this to Tesla model Y is the biggest insult to Volvo

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat 9 днів тому +1

      Is it though? Its in that small 2 row 50kish cuv class, same with rav4/highlander, tucson, etc that all are pushing electrified ev/hybrid powertrains catering to the small suv market.

  • @robervin9107
    @robervin9107 11 днів тому +5

    8:56Sensei tommy. Love it thanks bro. You have grown up tremendously I have seen the change in you and Roman is blessed

  • @miguelaguilar8917
    @miguelaguilar8917 11 днів тому +5

    I've had this vehicle on my radar for a while! Definitely worth the price point considering you don't have to worry about running out of battery!! Just don't quite want to get rid of my current Volvo

  • @MarmiteTheDog
    @MarmiteTheDog 10 днів тому +4

    I agree with Tommy. It's way better built than anything made in the US and has an expensive and damn good power train. It might be a bit compact for chunky Americans, but it's still a decent sized vehicle.

  • @jassaley
    @jassaley 11 днів тому +4

    Would love to hear Roman's opinion on the value comparison of this XC 60 vs the Crown Signia. And yes, we are empty nesters.

  • @rogerj412
    @rogerj412 11 днів тому +46

    Roman is being a bit ridiculous again. Tesla is known for poor interior materials/quality and Volvo is known for excellent interior materials/quality. $76k is way too much for that car, but please don't compare this to a Tesla and certainly not to a Ford.

    • @javiercastro4561
      @javiercastro4561 10 днів тому +2

      If tesla was so bad why are they the the #1 selling ev? And the Y was the best selling car in the world 2023

    • @thepkism
      @thepkism 10 днів тому +4

      @@javiercastro4561because they were intensely first to market on a mass scale and were heavily subsidized by the US gov at the beginning.
      It’s VERY clear that they have one of the worst quality scores in the entire industry. Look it up. There is a lot to love on the front Tesla front but we also can recognize they have really bad quality issues and to fix the problems ……. Thousands
      Volvos are really terrible quality wise. Literally nearly the bottom of the list (with Tesla) lol. The perfect comparison. They are made for eachother. Both Look pretty but the guys are terrible

    • @LetMeCook86
      @LetMeCook86 9 днів тому

      Roger has never stepped
      Foot in a Tesla. He has no idea what he’s talking about. Move along…

    • @etteyafed
      @etteyafed 9 днів тому +2

      @@javiercastro4561if you’ve ever driven a new EV that wasn’t a Tesla you’d see why Tesla is quickly losing market share to older manufacturers. Hyundai, Chevy, and even BMW already have far superior EV models to anything Tesla offers.

    • @javiercastro4561
      @javiercastro4561 9 днів тому

      @etteyafed no bmw since I still have ptsd from working on my 335. But I have driven most of the rest when getting ready to buy my new car. tesla was just a much better in most regards and was a better priced car. It did take a week or 2 to get used to the minimalist interior.
      But with my Y performance I can safely take my family of 4 and all our luggage easly, it's a blast to drive in the NC mountains. And it tows our boat no problem. Not many cars are so versatile. Lastly the supercharging network works so easily and it's reliable

  • @flautadossonhos
    @flautadossonhos 10 днів тому +5

    I'm waiting for mine, I'm anxious... Expensive? With the Volvo discount and the tax discount for PHEV cars that my country gives, I will pay €51,000... Is it expensive?? I don't think so... The X3 and the GLC would cost me, with the same characteristics and power, €90,000...yes, you heard me right, €90,000... Almost double... because in addition to not offering discounts, they exceed the limit and do not qualify for my country's discount for PHEV cars...

    • @MarmiteTheDog
      @MarmiteTheDog 10 днів тому +1

      It's well over €100k in my country 😢

  • @RobertBruno
    @RobertBruno 11 днів тому +6

    Volvo, they’re boxy, but they’re good.

  • @reynerl5830
    @reynerl5830 6 днів тому

    The first time i watched your video. I love the contrasting point of view. Yhe father and son conversation like this is quite refreshing. I think Volvo is a luxury car view on a Swedish perspective. I am sold with their minimalistic approach, but still find it a bit on the expensive side. Great review!!

  • @Urgento22
    @Urgento22 11 днів тому +4

    Roman, once again you're wrong. It's a premium vehicle which calls for a premium price. Plug-in hybrids like the Volvo Recharge lineup, the Jeep 4xe lineup and the Toyota Prime lineup are the way to go. Especially over full electric vehicles.

  • @johntruscott1803
    @johntruscott1803 10 днів тому +1

    Love the format and the debate.

  • @wantsanewvehicle
    @wantsanewvehicle 10 днів тому +1

    I've not driven one of these, but they seem very nice. I'd like to purchase one.. but I just can't justify the price. Same exact reason I've not purchased a fully electric vehicle either..

  • @anydaynow01
    @anydaynow01 5 днів тому

    For that price I would want more BEV range, 80 km should be the magic number for PHEV/EREV since it will give plenty of winter range also. Anything less than that shouldn't be able to get a rebate or tax break. I mean if a ten year old Chevy EREV can still do it (gen 2 Volts still have some of the least degradation per battery usage), why can't a modern Volvo.

  • @davidk4682
    @davidk4682 10 днів тому

    Excellent review

  • @lawdog516
    @lawdog516 11 днів тому +18

    Cross shopping a Volvo with a Ford Explorer, come on Roman !!!

    • @spcneary
      @spcneary 11 днів тому

      I don’t think he is saying they are similar, his point was what can you get for way less money or as he eluded to the same money as a nice Tahoe/expedition.

    • @adofoi30
      @adofoi30 10 днів тому

      You probably don’t know that the Volvo SUVs came about because they were owned by Ford for a while. People in our age still associate the two.

    • @Spoolingturbski
      @Spoolingturbski 10 днів тому +1

      @@adofoi30no they do not, stop it. Volvo was part of Fords Premium auto group. Volvo, Jaguar Aston Martin, Land Rover. Ford used Volvos technology to build better vehicles. Volvo is premium.

  • @haanjamiis
    @haanjamiis 11 днів тому +24

    Teslas are not premium/luxury cars. Can't compare Teslas with premium european brands.

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 11 днів тому +2

      Tesla is in FACT classified as a premium brand and the model 3s most common conquest trade in for multiple year's is a BMW 3 series! 😀👍🏻

    • @vxnova1
      @vxnova1 11 днів тому +1

      They are really more of a fast sports car as opposed to a luxury brand,

    • @nobrien1
      @nobrien1 11 днів тому +2

      I think a lot depends on your definition of premium / luxury. Tesla's minimalist interiors are never going to be considered 'luxury' by someone who wants real leather and lots of buttons. If you compare functionality, performance, and ride experience, particularly in the S and updated M3, I think they compare well. I am 'old', and my 2018 M3 was the best car that I have ever had in 50+ years of driving and the only one I kept for over 3 years, even with its introductory issues. My 2024 M3 is significantly more refined and even better that my 2018. To each their own......

    • @halsnyder296
      @halsnyder296 10 днів тому +2

      Want to go broke? Buy a used large BMW

    • @Molishious
      @Molishious 10 днів тому

      It’s all choices. With this you get to drive electric most of the time and you have a lot of horsepower when your want it. Efficiency is just so so. My Rav4 prime has more EV range, much better efficiency and it costs a lot less. It has good horsepower but this Volvo has a lot more in hybrid mode. You aren’t going to buy this Volvo to save money. I think MPGe is okay for comparing one plug in to another, but 63 MPGe doesn’t really mean you are getting 63 mpg. With my PHEV I look at the MPG when I’m in hybrid mode and I look at the the miles/kWh when I’m in pure EV mode. You drag around an extra drive train, but if you want range with a BEV you drag around a big battery. There’s more complexity, more to go wrong. Not sure about this Volvo but my Prime ranks very high for reliability in consumer reports. My engine doesn’t deal with stop start, it mostly just runs on the highway. I imagine that reduces wear and tear. No matter what it has a lot less miles on the engine than an ICE car with the same miles.

  • @PsychicOracle
    @PsychicOracle 8 днів тому

    I have one, it was indeed too expensive. But if you care about sound quality AND want an EV or PHEV, there really isn’t a better option until you’re north of $100k in a German to get Burmester

  • @eringriffin3957
    @eringriffin3957 8 днів тому

    I have seen so many reviews about Volvos where the reviewer is 6’2 and says they have plenty of room, so I was surprised they said h to opposite.

  • @stevekniess3665
    @stevekniess3665 11 днів тому +2

    Wow that's quick. I like it. Thanks guys for the excellent video as always 👍

    • @TFLEV
      @TFLEV  11 днів тому

      Our pleasure!

  • @beri232
    @beri232 3 дні тому +1

    I’m with the kid….. no comparison between this and Tesla whatsoever

  • @zeedustrakok
    @zeedustrakok 3 дні тому +1

    Americans think luxury is size. Luxury is quality and attention to details. Great leather and craftsmanship.
    Tesla isn't a premium brand. Quality is lacking, no personalization. It has tech, but technology isn't luxury.
    In 2022 I ordered a V60 T6 hybrid in ultimate trim. That was €76500.

  • @hhjones9393
    @hhjones9393 10 днів тому

    I agree that this car is too expensive, but PHEV is the best solution for most people if they want to step up from a hybrid or ICE. Comparing a Tesla to this is not apples to apples! Tesla is more like 90s Ford Escort build quality

  • @mc.9-
    @mc.9- 10 днів тому

    "I wish prices were the same as the 90s, but not brake hold"

  • @jnmaher1967
    @jnmaher1967 11 днів тому

    If it was a V90 I’d be more excited

  • @hskrgrad
    @hskrgrad 2 дні тому

    I agree. I like this but too expensive.

  • @teddysdadcory
    @teddysdadcory 9 днів тому

    It’s Tommy!!!

  • @tarfeef101
    @tarfeef101 11 днів тому +15

    Roman is perpetuating the American obsession with giant vehicles
    You don't need a freaking explorer to haul ur kids around. My family used to do road trips in an economy sedan just fine. And probably used 1/3 the gas doing it

    • @Urgento22
      @Urgento22 11 днів тому +1

      100%!!!

    • @cdbuiles
      @cdbuiles 11 днів тому +2

      I 100% agree, but you have to admit the guy is tall, .6'2 ==> almost 1.9m tall ! A 2h drive in the backseat is not pleasant, so he's got a point there.

    • @9663mu
      @9663mu 10 днів тому +3

      Your family was also poor and probably didn’t work. When you grow up and work hard , you get to drive what you want. Stay homeless

    • @tarfeef101
      @tarfeef101 10 днів тому

      @@cdbuiles yeah but families generally don't have 6ft2 kids for very long

    • @tarfeef101
      @tarfeef101 10 днів тому

      @@9663mu lol what an aggressive assumption
      Also a very incorrect one, we simply spent money on more useful things like education (thanks guys), vacations (also Ty), etc. vs giant cars we didn't need
      Although I'm disappointed to say after me and my sibling grew up and moved out my parents got larger vehicles for some stupid reason. They never use the extra space... I chide them constantly about it

  • @thrash123ful
    @thrash123ful 10 днів тому

    Test drove one it was ok but for what you pay you would think it would drive better.

  • @systemler44
    @systemler44 2 дні тому +1

    It's not an m3 or a glc😂😂😂 the xc60 T8 blows both of them away and leaves them standing

    • @ArloCox-hp7lj
      @ArloCox-hp7lj День тому

      Totally agree. The only thing this video car hasn’t got is air suspension. Then that juddery ride would be pure silk. I’ve got T8 recharge Polestar engineered with air suspension and it’s better than my previous BMW 530 and Range Rover Sport - quicker and more luxurious. Yes, expensive, but boy is that a dream power train! 😮

  • @jaydengerber15
    @jaydengerber15 11 днів тому

    thought it was a Mercedes at first

  • @drnick40
    @drnick40 9 днів тому

    I am sorry but it doesn’t make any sense to say the plug-in hybrid is the future. This is the most expensive, most complicated and least reliable vehicle type known to man. And this one is smallish for the US consumer.

  • @kencotton4645
    @kencotton4645 10 днів тому

    I think to really be successful, plugin hybrids need to use a system where the drivetrain is all electric and the motor drives a generator to charge the battery. That would simplify a lot of the complexity of current hybrids.

  • @gregpochet4812
    @gregpochet4812 11 днів тому

    $76k? I am with Dad. Too expensive. I'll buy a BEV premium vehicle for $15-$20k less and save thousands in fuel price

    • @normt430
      @normt430 11 днів тому

      These are coming off rental duty one model year newer for almost half price.

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat 9 днів тому

    We had the S60 rental car a couple months ago, so many "It's ok I guess" from me. The android automotive OS, meh, it's ok, not too impressive. I like the native waze, but everything else was laggy and not super intuitive for vehicle and adas functions. Shifter and switch? Very odd, but I guess you get used to it, wasn't impressed. ADAS? Felt like a crappy copycat of autopilot that was terrible at following lanes and couldn't trust at all. I had to turn off all the lane warnings they were WAY too overactive too. Ours was hybrid, not phev, and the shifting and transmission was awful. Never in the power band and it would unexpected shift at the wrong times, I hated it, poor tuning.

  • @TheJ1s
    @TheJ1s 11 днів тому

    Volvo still using their ICE vehicles for their EVs, I look forward to the ones that's from the ground up with a different designs like Polestar.

  • @nobrien1
    @nobrien1 11 днів тому +3

    I am sorry to hear you perpetuating the myth of range anxiety with BEVs. While BEVs may not satisfy all use cases today, they can satisfy well over 50%. Anyone who can install a home charger (60% of Americans own a home) and only takes a 500 mile road trip once or twice a year, would be well served by a BEV. With Tesla's charging network open to all BEVs and non-Tesla networks being improved with more chargers and better maintenance, finding a charger on trips isn't really an issue. The only issue on trips is the added charging time over that of pumping gas. But, you also have to factor in spouse bladder cycle time to that equation so it might work out to be the same! 😀

    • @stgeorgee
      @stgeorgee 10 днів тому

      I have never taken an ICE or EV cross country trip, with my wife, kids and dogs, which didn’t involve a stop every 2 hours and didn’t take less than 30 minutes.

  • @danielberning1240
    @danielberning1240 10 днів тому +4

    I work at a Volvo dealer. Although safe vehicles, they have a long way to go when it comes to reliability. When you get them with the huge rims, the ride quality is highly diminished. And having the climate controls in the screen? Just wait till you get into the thing when it's blazing hot and the climate is turned off. Waiting for that stupid screen to boot up seems like eternity as you sit there and bake. There's a lot more better choices out there for way less money.

    • @MarmiteTheDog
      @MarmiteTheDog 10 днів тому

      Which better choices are you thinking of?

    • @danielberning1240
      @danielberning1240 9 днів тому

      @@MarmiteTheDog I'll let JD Powers reports answer that for you. But the first that comes to mind is any Buick or Cadillac.

  • @gregpochet4812
    @gregpochet4812 11 днів тому +1

    The main purpose to got electric in vehicles is to get rid of burning oil/gas. PHEV do not accomplish this. How many people own a PHEV and don't ever plug them in? I betcha its a majority of owners..

    • @thrash123ful
      @thrash123ful 10 днів тому

      Rav4 Prime is highly rated with its range and reliability.

  • @kbram7363
    @kbram7363 8 днів тому

    Volvo screens are too small

  • @Sanpedranoazul
    @Sanpedranoazul 10 днів тому

    Way too expensive for it's reliability

  • @Danzilly
    @Danzilly 8 днів тому

    I hate blacked out vehicles it reminds of a rattle can paint job!

  • @evankatz2893
    @evankatz2893 10 днів тому +1

    Solid reviews gentleman, but ever since geely bought. Volvo , their reliability has been poor , still have Swedish design but not Swedish reliability!

    • @stgeorgee
      @stgeorgee 10 днів тому

      Is that so? Feel free ti share all your non-existent Volvo experiences.

    • @evankatz2893
      @evankatz2893 10 днів тому

      Look at consumer reports to see how great their cars are! The whole industry knows geely takeover , the cars are shit now . Very safe but not reliable!

  • @jerrycomo2736
    @jerrycomo2736 10 днів тому

    Owned a 2002 Volvo CrossCountry for 15 years. Paid a premium for quality and did not get it. For 15 years I was in denial. Kept spending lots of money on repairs, and upkeep while convincing myself this will be the last big repair then clear sailing to 500K miles. At 165K miles dumped it for next to nothing after spending the equivalent on repairs to the original purchase price. Now my goal is to buy relatively cheap Chevys and dump them in four years or 35K, whichever comes first.

  • @jnmaher1967
    @jnmaher1967 11 днів тому

    What’s sharp is the Volvo, what’s not Roman’s shoes.

  • @halsnyder296
    @halsnyder296 10 днів тому

    Not ever considering a hybrid. All the maintenance of gas plus the electric system. Also, where I live, don’t need the range.

  • @Oaky
    @Oaky 11 днів тому +2

    Excited to get this for $20k in 4 years!

    • @mcnuggetapple
      @mcnuggetapple 11 днів тому

      This isn’t a Mercedes

    • @normt430
      @normt430 11 днів тому

      The base XC40 Recharge is barely kissing $25k for 2021 models.

    • @Oaky
      @Oaky 11 днів тому

      @@normt430 50% in 3 years. Big ups *air horn*

    • @normt430
      @normt430 11 днів тому

      @@Oaky minus $7,500 fed tax credit to first owner and $4,000 to the second owner. See how BEV'S have value compared to ICE?!

    • @Oaky
      @Oaky 10 днів тому

      @@normt430 Doesn't qualify for the full credit :) Hope that helps, google is free

  • @KypHeM
    @KypHeM 10 днів тому +2

    28 mpg after all that tech? lmao

  • @ffl1409
    @ffl1409 11 днів тому +1

    I hope this is just Tommy playing bad cop in their good cop-bad cop routine. Trying to justify the $77K price tag for this is plain ridiculous.

  • @LetMeCook86
    @LetMeCook86 9 днів тому +2

    B O R I N G …. Rather have a Tesla model 3 performance Highland for $49,130!

  • @icare7151
    @icare7151 11 днів тому

    ❤Apple Car Play!

  • @TheCarterMan
    @TheCarterMan 11 днів тому

    Wait until the crystal shifter is in the sunlight! It looks like it will blind you

  • @RippenGriff
    @RippenGriff 11 днів тому +1

    Buy the extended warranty, it’s going to be expensive to repair

  • @andylau2134
    @andylau2134 10 днів тому +1

    Volvo’s parent company is a Chinese company. Volvo cars are not the same as before. Sorry, I am not impressed. Full of copied technologies. Trying to have luxury interior but still lacking the ability to create something luxurious. The bottom line is that Volvo cars are made in China and not in Sweden.

    • @Fractal379
      @Fractal379 9 днів тому +1

      "Full of copied technologies." 😂 Yeah, those dastardly Chinese even give their cars 4 wheels +1, am I right? 🤣

  • @malifestro3319
    @malifestro3319 11 днів тому

    I don't get the 'black edition' fad. It's like the least styled edition.

  • @carlfe4891
    @carlfe4891 11 днів тому

    That is stupid expensive for features that can be had down market. I am with Roman on this one. Also the AAOS system in Volvo/Polestar is just not good. It seems ok for a 15 minute review, but it's plagued by very bad performance and software quality. Each update makes it WORSE, not better. I am shocked they are sticking with a fairly small screen and a processor from 2016 on a $76k vehicle...

  • @user-tx9zg5mz5p
    @user-tx9zg5mz5p 11 днів тому +1

    Meh😂

  • @jonascampelo871
    @jonascampelo871 11 днів тому

    Black on black cars are horrible! Should be illegal to sell such dark cars/vehicles.

  • @iLikeTigerz101
    @iLikeTigerz101 10 днів тому +2

    76g for a car bought by the Chinese, PASS! in some countries you can buy a house with that.

    • @stgeorgee
      @stgeorgee 10 днів тому +1

      Your racism is showing.

    • @iLikeTigerz101
      @iLikeTigerz101 10 днів тому

      @@stgeorgee your lack of spine and intelligence is showing. you must've went to college to think that.