My weighted momo Italy is real nice to drive with. I wouldn't say it makes a huge difference. But it makes things feel crisp especially with b&m short shift
I liked this vid but if you showed yourself actually using the shift knob it would have been better. I am getting a nrg weighted shift knob soon, so this video really helped
Most OEM shift knobs are actually surprisingly heavy compared to aftermarket shift knobs. The weight difference isn't enough to cause any concern about possible damage.
@@qwertyui90qwertyui90 the shift knob is what moves the forks however. This is mostly food for thought, same reason to not rest your hand heavily on the shifter
That is exactly wrong. It actually takes more force to get the weighted knob moving, as it 1.) has more inertia and 2.) has more mass. You feel like there is less force involved because while the amount of additional force to get the weighted knob moving is inconsequential, after you do get it moving, it retains momentum and you feel it carrying the mass forward and because you are applying less force to knob than at the beginning of the throw, for neurokinematic reasons, you feel the difference more readily. Imagine a two sticks that have weights on one end (one heavier than the other) and is attached to a fulcrum on the ground at the other. With the sticks lying flat on the ground, raise weighted ends of the sticks until they are perpindicular with the ground. Which one require more force to get to that point? The heavier one, obviously. Now push the sticks drop to the other side of the fulcrum and keep pushing the sticks with the same amount of force. Which one would feel lighter?. From start to finish, which required more force in total? Now, take two objects of similar weights (say, two oranges or fishing weights, whatever) and place one in each hand. Tell me which one is heavier. Stop. What did you just do? You just moved your hands up and down, didn't you? Tell me at what part of that motion that you perceived the difference between the two? You almost certainly felt it as the objects were dropping, when your body was applying less force to the objects. IE, if you were doing this with a 100g weight vs a 110g weight, you would notice the difference before you did it with a 1100 weight vs a 1010g weight. Anyway, weighted knobs are all about imparting more momentum, not applying less force.
Yes, it takes more force to actually get the knob moving. However, you also proved the exact point of what I was saying. The momentum increase from the additional weight is what makes the gear changes feel in effect, more effortless. Past the initial moment of starting that momentum, the advantage of additional mass is apparent. My choice of words in the video may have made that seem a bit confusing, however. I probably should have chosen to explain it a bit differently. You are correct that it does technically require more initial force to move the knob, but in general, the difference in what happens after that momentum has started is more noticeable than the small increase in initial effort required in this scenario.
That whole explanation is 100% wrong. Try shifting a short throw shifter with a plastic shift knob, then put a 400 g billet shift knob. It's like a bowling ball. Once you get the momentum going the inertia easily puts it into gear. Contradict that by having to force it into gear because you have no inertia (light weight shift knob) or leverage (short throw shift arm) to help you complete the shift. You need the inertia with a short throw shifter because you don't have the leverage provided to you by an extended shift arm. I'm speaking from the experience of having a WRX with a short throw shifter. I also have a Civic but the length of the shift arm makes it super easy for me to complete the shift. I don't think you have ever even tried to use one.
In the past ive thought is was a dumb picky thing. Then I did a auto to manual swap. The shifter and linkage came with a weighted shift knob and I love it. Biggest problem is its really cold in winter and really hot in summer.
@@jessel1217 Evidently Google failed me on that one. 😂 I'm American, so I don't know what everything equals in the metric system off the top of my head, especially when it comes to weight. So Google is handy... Well... Most of the time lol.
When I bought them they were called Aodhan LS007s. Now if I remember correctly, they've been renamed the AFF7 or something like that. They're also flow formed now I believe, and they weren't when I bought them.
Try pushing the shifter down slightly while in gear and moving, that vibration you’re feeling with that little pressure is the shift forks riding on the synchro ring causing wear
Here's some feedback for you. I think it's ironic that you bought a weighted carbon fiber shift knob 😉
sam wade I just wanted the carbon to match the hood... 😂
Well as long as it's not fake Carbon fiber
That's my thought too.. carbon supposed to be lightweight.. 😂
Bro it would be a heavy weight in the middle wrapped in carbon fibre
Nice, now I can shift from P to D faster!
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"Weighted carbon fiber" how ironic
It just looks nice. Matches the hood.
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My weighted momo Italy is real nice to drive with. I wouldn't say it makes a huge difference. But it makes things feel crisp especially with b&m short shift
Sounds about right. Momo makes great stuff.
I liked this vid but if you showed yourself actually using the shift knob it would have been better. I am getting a nrg weighted shift knob soon, so this video really helped
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I appreciate the feedback!
Consider the weight of the shift knob is pushing on the shift forks all the time, the oem is light for a reason
Most OEM shift knobs are actually surprisingly heavy compared to aftermarket shift knobs. The weight difference isn't enough to cause any concern about possible damage.
If your shift knob isn't directly on the forks, rather is connected to linkages and then to the gearbox, then it's perfectly fine :)
@@qwertyui90qwertyui90 the shift knob is what moves the forks however. This is mostly food for thought, same reason to not rest your hand heavily on the shifter
informative and sick production value, good job and hope you get more subs
Thanks a bunch!
Enjoyed the video mate.good quality content
Great vid man hope to see more content like this!
That is exactly wrong. It actually takes more force to get the weighted knob moving, as it 1.) has more inertia and 2.) has more mass. You feel like there is less force involved because while the amount of additional force to get the weighted knob moving is inconsequential, after you do get it moving, it retains momentum and you feel it carrying the mass forward and because you are applying less force to knob than at the beginning of the throw, for neurokinematic reasons, you feel the difference more readily.
Imagine a two sticks that have weights on one end (one heavier than the other) and is attached to a fulcrum on the ground at the other. With the sticks lying flat on the ground, raise weighted ends of the sticks until they are perpindicular with the ground. Which one require more force to get to that point? The heavier one, obviously. Now push the sticks drop to the other side of the fulcrum and keep pushing the sticks with the same amount of force. Which one would feel lighter?. From start to finish, which required more force in total?
Now, take two objects of similar weights (say, two oranges or fishing weights, whatever) and place one in each hand. Tell me which one is heavier. Stop. What did you just do? You just moved your hands up and down, didn't you? Tell me at what part of that motion that you perceived the difference between the two? You almost certainly felt it as the objects were dropping, when your body was applying less force to the objects. IE, if you were doing this with a 100g weight vs a 110g weight, you would notice the difference before you did it with a 1100 weight vs a 1010g weight.
Anyway, weighted knobs are all about imparting more momentum, not applying less force.
Yes, it takes more force to actually get the knob moving. However, you also proved the exact point of what I was saying. The momentum increase from the additional weight is what makes the gear changes feel in effect, more effortless. Past the initial moment of starting that momentum, the advantage of additional mass is apparent. My choice of words in the video may have made that seem a bit confusing, however. I probably should have chosen to explain it a bit differently. You are correct that it does technically require more initial force to move the knob, but in general, the difference in what happens after that momentum has started is more noticeable than the small increase in initial effort required in this scenario.
That whole explanation is 100% wrong. Try shifting a short throw shifter with a plastic shift knob, then put a 400 g billet shift knob. It's like a bowling ball. Once you get the momentum going the inertia easily puts it into gear. Contradict that by having to force it into gear because you have no inertia (light weight shift knob) or leverage (short throw shift arm) to help you complete the shift. You need the inertia with a short throw shifter because you don't have the leverage provided to you by an extended shift arm. I'm speaking from the experience of having a WRX with a short throw shifter. I also have a Civic but the length of the shift arm makes it super easy for me to complete the shift. I don't think you have ever even tried to use one.
In the past ive thought is was a dumb picky thing. Then I did a auto to manual swap. The shifter and linkage came with a weighted shift knob and I love it. Biggest problem is its really cold in winter and really hot in summer.
Yeah I completely agree. And yeah, metal or in my case carbon knobs can get unbearable depending on the weather. It's worth it though! Haha.
Do you have a short shifter too? Seems like the combo would be nice. Btw I have the same color Z, love the carbon fiber hood!
No, it was just the stock shifter. Already short, so I can imagine how the combo of the two would feel.
You deserve more subscribers. Quality content!
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
the stock 370z shift nob is in the 200s and a cus weighted shift knob is around 40 dollars so no it definitely isn’t more expensive than a stock one.
In that very specific case, sure.
Nice vid
Just subscribed!
My integras stock one I only need 1 finger to switch gears. I wonder what a weighted shift know would do.
What's the bit you have between the boot and knob? Can't find anything like that anywhere.
It's called a shift boot retainer.
Awesome video
Thank you!
Get one for Jackson drift Tahoe 😂😂
Gamer Talk It's automatic. 😂
What was the weight of your shift knob?
According to their website, 380 grams or 1.1 lbs.
@@coltondoescars mine is full stainless steel, 540grams
Colton Does Cars - Mate 1.1lbs is 499grams not 380 lol.
@@jessel1217 Evidently Google failed me on that one. 😂 I'm American, so I don't know what everything equals in the metric system off the top of my head, especially when it comes to weight. So Google is handy... Well... Most of the time lol.
Any chance you have a link to that retainer for the shift boot
I don't but you can find them on Ebay and Amazon all day.
What wheels are those? Theyre sweeet
When I bought them they were called Aodhan LS007s. Now if I remember correctly, they've been renamed the AFF7 or something like that. They're also flow formed now I believe, and they weren't when I bought them.
"Not necessarily necessary" lol
I can English gooder than that sometimes.
Does it damage the transmission
No it does not. 🙂
I thought it might wear out synchros prematurely
@@mah8468 No it shouldn't. It's not a huge difference in weight, just a small amount, so there's not much extra mass acting on the shifter.
Try pushing the shifter down slightly while in gear and moving, that vibration you’re feeling with that little pressure is the shift forks riding on the synchro ring causing wear