Sagan was and still is one of my favourite human beings ever to exist. The world was a better place for him. And his legacy lives on within millions of people. Thank you Carl Sagan.
Dude. I guess I’m not alone. Thomas Sowell is another good thinker of another stripe entirely but as good and plain a speaker and teacher of complex phenomena. But Sagan is indeed alone.
This man was amazing. He was so approachable, kind, and thougtful in his dialogue. I grew up revering him and to this day he's still an influence on my approach to critical thinking and desire to live in a truthful world.
@@michaelbrickley2443 Abassi? Abira? Abzu? Achamán? Adroa? Agudar? Ahone? Ahura Mazda? Aiapæc? Aiomun-Kondi? Akongo? Alatangana? Amma (deity)? Amotken? Amun? Anansi? Anguta? Anshar? Anulap? Aramazd? Atua I Raropuka? Atum? Awonawilona? That's just the 'A's of creator gods from Wikipedia. There are plenty more to choose from.
@@ShulgiAdad there is only One God Who gave His Son as evidence. The resurrection is historical and has been investigated by professionals. Hindus claim history but it is BS. Moslems have a way that is man justifies himself to get into heaven. Really? Man made construct and interesting how they change the resurrection to suit their theology. They also steal the whole OT, pretty much. Atheist Antony Flew wrote There is a God and while we cannot be sure he made peace with Yahweh he did note in the book that the only God Who made sense was the Judeo Christian God because He made no sense to his flesh thinking. Why not test the waters and seek. In seeking you will find if you seek humbly. God exalts the humble and hides from the arrogant. Shalom (there are statues to all kinds of created gods all over the world. Their bizarre stories and petty jealousies tell the truth of their supposed deity)
@@michaelbrickley2443 Okay. PRAISE ODIN. He promised that He would kill all frost giants. Fo you see any frost giants anywhere? Yep, ODIN killed them all.
Sagan is an illustration that the smartest people generally speak clearly. He might have been a great scientist, I don't know. But he was a great explainer. I had the privilege of meeting with him, and he was exactly as appears in his public persona.
@@matthewclay6535 Hmmmm....that causes me to wonder how you would have any idea as to what I've amounted to in this life, well life in general since I don't sit around and think about imaginary golden streets in the sky...Easy on the caplock as well since wrath is one of the deadly ones...
@@matthewclay6535 LOL the typical religious idiot with claims that has no evidence behind them. Asserting things the only thing theists able to achieve. Lying day and night, that's religion. Thank you for exposing it more! ;) Good job!
"I'm asking you to define yours, if you have one". If you require others have their interpretation of a construct you need. Don't be upset when their interpretation isn't what you wanted.
_"The inmates are running the asylum"_ _'The inmates/lunatics are running the asylum'_ quote was originally made by a 1919 movie studio executive complaining about actors (who were then viewed as little more than children) gaining power over the studios and making filming decisions themselves! Thing is, history demonstrated that an actors decision was generally _superior_ to a typical corporate studio exec's decision, so a reference to inmates/lunatics running the asylum is _not_ a good analogy!
Nice selection, but unfortunately a few errors in the subtitles: 5:32 "hedge our bets", not "headed our bets" 5:48 "you phrased the question", not "you praised the question" 6:28 "begats", not "baguettes" 6:35 "plus or minus a little". not "plus reliance a little" 7:10 "roi fainéant", not "hua thineonte"
@@Seele2015au He just said it is auto generated. An AI voice recognition software pick up what it can and print it out on the monitor. Get in contact with UA-cam and complain there, the channels, and their owners has nothing to do with it.
What you dou mean when you use any language? Is is the language that has "meaning" (whatever that is); or is it the use of the language that is meaningful?
Einstein wrote an article on Religion and Science pointing out the 3 stages of religion: 1) Religion of Fear; 2) Religion of social and moral values; 3) Cosmic Religion. He has also been quoted as saying: "Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame." My religion was founded on Einstein's Cosmic religion, and in my opinion It is literally the 2nd Coming. It's called waking up to the fact that EVERYTHING in the physical universe sprung from the Non-Physical Intelligent One Mind. Another quote from Einstein: "Great Minds have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds." I believe that people who ONLY believe in what can be "proven" are mediocre at best.
Using Einstein to validate your belief makes you mediocre one here. Einstein thought of God as the universe itself and it's underlying laws. Indifferent and hostile towards life. He didn't think of God as the kind of God you believe in. And believing without evidence also makes you the mediocre one as you believe one claim without evidence yet you don't believe all the others. You follow one religion yet you reject thousands of other religions and millions of other Gods.
The definition of god is indeed a big problem for believers. Because god is only in the mind of the believer there are countless religions, denominations and sects. If there was only one god this would not be so. And believers just make excuses why their version or concept of god is correct. And all without a shred of tangible evidence. And I do mean 'not a shred'! Because in 30 years I have not seen or heard any tangible evidence for a god or gods. And nor has any believer either. Otherwise they would have presented it by now.
The propensity for belief in spirits/gods comes from the structure of the human brain/mind. The god we see/feel is us. Our survival niche is cooperation with others for which our brain/mind is structured making us anthropomorphize the world. Theists know that there is a god, they just don't know that it is themselves.
He's right. 'God' is a generic term. There are thousands of them. It's a category. Capitalizing it is like saying, Dog or Car, etc. And I think that the idea of a god is the ultimate blame game; nothing else.
I can't stand when people do that. You say you're an atheist and suddenly they attack you and ask why you want to abolish religion or why you want to remove religion from people's lives. It's nonsense how much idiocy people believe. I don't believe in your bullshit. You're welcome to believe it, but just keep it away from me.
@@2011littlejohn1 *Your comment of... "The point is their beliefs do effect all of us. They are a hindrance to progress." Do you have any evidence of that? Would love to hear any amount of evidence you might have on this topic of religious beliefs being a hindrance to progress. P.S. You misspelled "effect." It's affect. Just an FYI.*
@@baxoutthebox5682 Not talking about Carl Sagan. Was talking about that first journalist/interviewer. He immediately went on the offensive and started the "You're an atheist? So all this faith and hope and goodness etc all means nothing, then?"
@@matthewclay6535 Firstly I didn't misspell the word it was a grammatical error. The troubles between the two warring factions in Northern Ireland had its roots in religious differences which changed the economics and political power. If you feel that blowing up housewives in department stores is a sign of progress then may your god help you.
The word "God" to most Christians should mean "YHWH" or "Yahweh" a barbaric Hebrew male being with supernatural powers who created all things. Unfortunately the word "God" refers to his son Yeshua/Jesus who became a sacrifice to his heavenly father to forgive the sins of mankind. If you examine the story as an outsider/skeptic/atheist it means no sense whatsoever to a thinking person.
Most people don't understand that all religions are man-made and all men are religious in some way shape of form. Carl Sagan was also religious. He was part of the religious cult of atheism. *The cult of self* where they worship the creature (themselves) instead of the Creator. Carl Sagan was very intelligent. But his cognitive biases did not allow him to see his own lack of evidence in the religious cult he was involved in. There's not a single evidence of life's origin and the origin of man without God. Something he very zealously believed in. And by the way, he was very wrong about the origin of science and history in the bible. The bible gives a chronological and genealogical order of the creation and origin of man so accurately and backed up by mathematical calculations that is not compared to any other text book in the history of humanity. The accurate genealogy of man's origin alone makes the Bible the only divinely inspired book in the universe.
@@ljramirez *Most factual math + human population history according to "the story of evolution"* If humans (i.e., the genus homo ) have been on the Earth for roughly two to three million years. Using statistics, one can arrive at an estimate for how many people would be predicted to be on the Earth at different points in history. For example, accounting for factors such as *war, plagues, disease, natural disasters, and famine* and assuming humans have been on the planet for only one million, rather than two to three million, years, we find that there should be 10^2,000 people on the planet today. There are, however, not even 10^10 people on the Earth. In fact, if three-feet-tall humans with narrow shoulders were squeezed into the Universe like sardines, only 10^82 people could fit into the entire Universe. It would take 10^1,918 (minus one) other Universes like ours to house that many humans. *Extremely generous math to try to favor the history of humanity according to "the story of evolution"* Atheist scientists had originally said that humans broke off from ape-like creatures 2.5 million years ago. And that modern man evolved from that humanoid about 250,000 to 300,000 years ago. Well, even if we assume that humans have ony been on the planet for 10,000 years, when the alleged agricultural revolution started and being extremely conversative. Only doubling the world's population every 150 years (currently the population doubles about 40 years), *after 150 years there will be 4 people, after another 150 years there will be 8 people, after another 150 years there will be 16 people, and so on* This rate is actually very conservative. (we have records of a Russian woman in the 1700's who gave birth to over 60 children). I am taking into account *disease, plagues, famines, natural disasters, wars, and reverse birth to death ratio at various intervals.* Way before the discovery of penicillin in 1928. We have records of women from the 1400's giving birth to 10 children on average, let's say only 5 would make it to old age for the factors mentioned above, so 2 children per couple every 150 years for 10,000 years it is extremely generous. Calculating these numbers, there would have been averaging close to 100 doublings in 10,000 years. The world’s population would be whopping figure of the # 1 followed by 30 zeros. Check it out: 1,000000000000000000000000000000. You can still wipe out humanity a couple of times more and the numbers still don't add up. *Think about this in 1912 when the Titanic sank and 1,500 people died. The world's population was only a little over 1 billion people. Fast-forward 100 years and we are 8 billion. And we have had world war I and world War II in between (70 million people died). In 1945-46 around 140,000 people died as a result of the bombing of Hiroshima, Plus the worst influenza plague the world has ever seen, which happened 1918 (50 million people die)* Still In the last 100 years alone we can see a population growth of 8 times its numbers. *Now, let's look at this other also very conservative math:* If we start about 4,500 years ago (time of Noah's flood, only 8 people survived). After about 30 doublings, which is about 4,500 years, the world's population would have reached about 8 billion people (4,500 years ÷ 150 years in between births = 30 doublings // 8 exponentially doubled 30 times = 8,589,934,592 people). Give or take a few millions due to the negative factors mentioned above. Yes, some Christians and many other religions believe in some sort of evolution. But this is only because they have been influenced by this indoctrination since they were children. *Math doesn't lie. We can see how man invented the a theory of his origin to try to do away with God’s moral laws. We have lied about our origin, our history. And the studies of archeology, biology, anthropology, and so on. We even rather believe in panspermia (aliens from other galaxies). We are very ready to accept anything but God. BTW, religion is also man's made. For God there's only two religions good and evil* There's gonna be people regardless of their educational level that because of their cognitive biases can look at these facts and will still want to continue their merry-way without having any accountability for their actions. *Data taken into account:* *We have the oldest world's population census data from China's Han Dynasty in 2 CE, which recorded a population of 57.7 million people.* *World population record:* "8000 BC This is an assumed date based on human evolution; which is a total fictional fabrication: The claimed world's population was around 5 million at the beginning of agriculture." *The following world's population record is from factual census:* 1 AD: The world's population was around 200 million, but some estimates suggest it was closer to 300 million or 600 million. 1800: The world's population reached 1 billion. 1930: The world's population reached 2 billion. 1960: The world's population reached 3 billion. 1974: The world's population reached 4 billion. 1987: The world's population reached 5 billion. 1999: The world's population reached 6 billion people 2011: The world's population reached 7 billion people 2022: The world's population reached 8 billion people 2023: The world's population was 8,045,311,447. *In 1912 when the Titanic sank, where 1,500 people died. The world's population was only a little over 1 billion people. Fast-forward 100 years and we are 8 billion. And we have had world war I and world War II in between (70 million people died). In 1945-46 around 140,000 people died as a result of the bombing of Hiroshima, Plus the worst influenza plague the world has ever seen, which happened 1918 (50 million people die)* Still In the last 100 years alone we can see a population growth of 8 times its numbers. *COVID 2019 to 2024 about 7,010,681 people died. But there's still over 8 billion people on the planet.* *Each year in the USA alone there are approximately 4 million births and 2.4 million deaths.* The world's fertility rate has only been declining over the past 70 years, from around 5 children per woman in 1950 to 2.2 children per woman in 2021 (with the exception of a recorded case of a Russian woman in the 1700's who had 69 children) is due to a number of factors, including: • Reduced childhood mortality: Mothers no longer need to compensate for lost children • Increased women's autonomy: Women have more control over their lives • Improved contraception access and efficacy: Contraception is more widely available and effective.
Sagan asked a important question: What do you men by 'god'. And the functionally illiterate audience laughed. How can you form statements containing 'god' if you do not know whar 'god' means.
2Peter 1:19-21 Men Spake as they were Moved by THE HOLY GHOST
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Psalm 138:2) David declares GOD MAGNIFIES HIS WORD
2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Jeremiah 15:16 The Prophet Jeremiah Trusted in God's Word
Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
The Word of God is TRUTH - The Lord Jesus says So when He prayed to The Father in John 17 ---
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
The Curse on Those That Will Add to or Take From God's Word
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
This is speaking about this Book (Revelation), but it will most likely apply to any part of The Holy Scriptures if someone tries to tangle with God's Word.
Carl Sagan existed, God doesn't and has never existed. If dinosaurs believed in God, they would say they went extinct because God punished them for their sins. All species that went extinct because God punished them for their sins. 😂😂😂
*GOD doesn't exist?? Have a better explanation of what STARTED/CREATED the universe? Science has already concluded that the universe DID HAVE A BEGINNING.*
@@matthewclay6535 Why have an explanation when we have no evidence, nor any way to find out the truth? Typical wishful thinking illiterate, who have no idea how proof works.
No where in the bible does it say the world is 6,000 years old. No where in the bible does it define the bible or claim the origins of the bible. No where in the bible does it say the bible is infallible. In the bible it says parables were used to teach. I don't understand the point of this video. Mr Sagan has passed so we can't ask him, but the facts are we are here. And we seem happier with a purpose.
@@whatsup3270 Being an atheist doesn't make me anti-christian anymore than not being black makes me a racist. I am very pro-truth and I've yet to see any evidence the judeo-christian theology presents any "truth"...The golden rule is about all one needs to follow as a way to make our way through this world and the rest is either about control or picking one's pocket...But I'm sure you're not passing any form of judgement, are you...
Right, the Bible only claims that the Earth is not moving, that donkeys, snakes can talk, a flood engulfed all the Earth, people can live 600 years, people should own other people, it's ok to unalive babies, etc. Also, the Bible do states that it is infallible, at least if you acknowledge that the Bible is the word of god and it's been "released" with it's blessing. 2 Peter 1:19 But not every thiests should read the Bible, right? Of course not, because that make more people becoming atheists!
that's what YOU believe, not Sagan. Sagan would admit that he doesn't know or that we cannot know about the beginning of the universe. YOU are the one that believe that a God sat around for an inginite amount of time and then suddenly decides to make the universe like a 13.8 billion years ago. Yeah, totally makes sense. "You don't know how it happened therefore my made up explanation must be true!"
@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m "In the beginning, The Flying Spaghetti Monstee created the universe with it's Holy Tentacles" Pastafarian 1:1 Why is this so hard to believe?
He wasnt that brilliant, really. He said that religious people should not interfere with science because they have no expertise in it. Then he does the same thing with religion by stating, "Faith is belief in the absence of evidence." This is abjectly and patently false. He has no idea about faith and no experience with it, so he should shut up about it. Further, belief is not acknowledgement compelled by evidence, it is the choice to place ones trust in someone or something. If there is compelling evidence then there is no reason to trust. Religion does not deal with history, literature, or poetry. It only deals with morality. Again he is pronouncing on matters he does not understand. The science in the Bible was acquired from the Jewish religion, which preceded the Babylonians of 600 BC. The great Greek philosophers learned their philosophy from the Jewish philosophers. The Babylonians were in turn inspired by the learning of the Zoroastrian faith. However, he is very correct when he talks about all of the divergent descriptions of God. And that has come about because ignorant followers of religious teachings chose to turn away from the personal relationship with God that religion is intended to establish, and focus instead on dogma, doctrine, and ideology which serves no useful purpose, is ultimately unverifiable, divides people, and destroys that personal relationship. I understand everything Mr. Sagan said, and I sympathize with his reluctance to engage in discussions on it, but I dont respect his doing the same thing toward religion that he said it should not do toward science.
Interesting, but if everyone has a personal experience that is different from the personal experience of everyone else, would that not also lead to a wide variety of divergent descriptions of god?
@@vmolin2162 How many people throughout history have had divergent experiences with love? And yet, is not love a universally acknowledged phenomenon, without which life would be quite meaningless? If you ask anyone what love means to them, you will get an infinitude of responses, but pretty much variations on a theme. When I review religion through history, I can see a way in which it was intended to be a similar unifying force. Allow, for a moment, that there is an Infinite Being, Who created the universe and especially humanity. Intelligence implies purpose, so an all-knowing God would have definitely had a purpose. I believe His purpose is to have a relationship with each and every one of us. That purpose is actualized by us developing the spiritual characteristics with which he endowed us ("in His image", as the saying goes). The best way to achieve that purpose is by building similar relationships with every other human. In so doing, we come to recognize that each of us has the same inherent value. The more we develop it, the more we "approach" the perfection of God. Religion, then, consists of a vertical relationship with God and a lateral relationship between human beings. Morality, or spirituality, is the process of recognizing the intrinsic value of things and making choices that allow us to sacrifice lower values for higher ones (for example, the reward of generosity rather than the stinginess of hoarding). If this is what religion is, then we will all experience God in a very similar way, just like love. And since it is all about choices and actions, there is no need for the development of doctrine, dogma, and esoteric concepts that divide us. You may be surprised to know that the Sermon on the Mount contains only information about doing and behaving, and not a mention of doctrine or dogma. Three hundred years later, the Nicaean Creed is entirely about doctrine and dogma, and not a mention of doing or behaving. Religion has never disagreed or fought over actions like love, forgiveness, generosity, tolerance, etc., but it has always been divided by imaginary concepts like the trinity, the virgin birth, the resurrection, and creationism. And in my model of religion, there is absolutely no need for clergy of any kind. Guess who it was that created all of those doctrines and dogma that destroyed religion and created gods of many descriptions?
@@pathfinder1273 Guess who it was who created god and gods in the first place? Humans. Humans dreamed up Isis, Osiris and Set. Humans dreamed up Jupiter, Juno and Minerva. Humans dreamed up Odin, Freyr and Freya. Humans dreamed up every god and gods whose names appeared in this or that holy script. And humans gave these "gods" moral values that "just so happen" to agree with their own.
JC was just a man. No different to any other man. You can't fill your mind with what you want to be true. Study physics instead of the bible would be my advice.
I consider my introduction to mathematical proof to be one of the most important moments of my life. Your equivalent is the machinations of ancient primitive men. Absolutely pathetic.
@@mryorkshire3623 The laws of physics biology and chemistry look like a put up job as Fred Hoyle said. If Jesus were just a man the jewish and roman authorities would have left Him alone not seeing Him as a threat and crowds of people would not have followed Him.
Have you read Spinoza? Do you understand Spinoza's God?. Spinoza understood God exists, I understand God exists and you can understand. To understand God exists you have to understand the atheist logical fallacy. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is "sky daddy" to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheists misreason "sky daddy doesn't exist therefore god doesn’t exist, and all the arguments that point to the existence of god have to be wrong". To understand God exists you have to understand the kalam cosmological argument: what has a beginning of existence has a cause because from nothing can not be created something. Logically it is impossible the existence of an infinite number of causes, therefore an eternal first uncaused cause that created what has a beginning of existence exists. Did you understand why God exists? God exists because logically it is impossible the existence of the creation or finitude without the creator or infinitude!. If you pay attention you will realize atheists and religious people defend an idea without any arguments. The horrible reality that atheists and religious people sell doesn't exist!. To end the war the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. I am trying to overcome an unjust censorship. Thank you.
The kalam cosmological argument depends on the knowledge that there was in fact a beginning. Then it asserts that a god did it. We have no examples of anything 'beginning'; for all we know infinite regression is possible. If *everything* must have a beginning, then so must a god. If a god doesn't require a beginning (special pleading), then neither does a universe. Now let's say we allow the (currently) undefendable position that the universe had a beginning. Why does that mean that of the thousands of gods worshipped throughout history, the one you believe in created it? What did it create it from? Nothing? (creation ex nihilo). Contrary to the popular theist strawman, most atheists do not hold that the universe "came from nothing". If you hold that this is, in fact, the common atheist position I would ask that you provide *primary* sources/citations for this information. Having said that last bit, allow me to point out that an atheist has one position: A lack of belief in any god(s). Nothing more, nothing less. Atheism is *not* a stance on cosmology, evolution, biogenesis, or any other scientific discipline you care to name. To change an atheist's mind, you need only provide evidence for a god (or in some cases, any *verifiable, repeatable, falsifiable* evidence of the supernatural). Edit: I should point out that I misspoke above as there are cosmological hypotheses that propose the beginning of the current instantiation of our (visible) universe, but even those purport a singularity, or some other *something* for this instantiation to have come from.
@@ShulgiAdad what has a beginning of existence has a cause because from nothing can not be created something. For example you have a beginning of existence, you didn't exist before you were born. For example your comment have a beginning of existence. Many things have a beginning of existence. Do you agree? Bear in mind atheists would not be able to prove their own existence to themselves if the logical conclusion is God exists and lose their children believing without questions asked that gambling causes a brain disease, and when they are told they don't care.
Sagan was and still is one of my favourite human beings ever to exist. The world was a better place for him. And his legacy lives on within millions of people. Thank you Carl Sagan.
Dude. I guess I’m not alone.
Thomas Sowell is another good thinker of another stripe entirely but as good and plain a speaker and teacher of complex phenomena. But Sagan is indeed alone.
Carl Sagan is sorely missed.. What a great example of critical thinking at it's best!
And spelled incorrectly at the 00:18 mark.
A man who can’t see God all throughout creation is a man blind of reason and sense.
Sorely
Carl Sagan lives on. Carl S is more real than God.
@@ingenuity296 you’re crazy but that’s your business. More real than God? You don’t believe in God, do you?
This man was amazing. He was so approachable, kind, and thougtful in his dialogue. I grew up revering him and to this day he's still an influence on my approach to critical thinking and desire to live in a truthful world.
You should try revering the God of creation. It will serve you better in the hereafter
@@michaelbrickley2443
Abassi?
Abira?
Abzu?
Achamán?
Adroa?
Agudar?
Ahone?
Ahura Mazda?
Aiapæc?
Aiomun-Kondi?
Akongo?
Alatangana?
Amma (deity)?
Amotken?
Amun?
Anansi?
Anguta?
Anshar?
Anulap?
Aramazd?
Atua I Raropuka?
Atum?
Awonawilona?
That's just the 'A's of creator gods from Wikipedia. There are plenty more to choose from.
@@ShulgiAdad there is only One God Who gave His Son as evidence. The resurrection is historical and has been investigated by professionals. Hindus claim history but it is BS. Moslems have a way that is man justifies himself to get into heaven. Really? Man made construct and interesting how they change the resurrection to suit their theology. They also steal the whole OT, pretty much. Atheist Antony Flew wrote There is a God and while we cannot be sure he made peace with Yahweh he did note in the book that the only God Who made sense was the Judeo Christian God because He made no sense to his flesh thinking. Why not test the waters and seek. In seeking you will find if you seek humbly. God exalts the humble and hides from the arrogant. Shalom (there are statues to all kinds of created gods all over the world. Their bizarre stories and petty jealousies tell the truth of their supposed deity)
@@michaelbrickley2443 Okay.
PRAISE ODIN. He promised that He would kill all frost giants. Fo you see any frost giants anywhere? Yep, ODIN killed them all.
@@thesmartstickguy1145 silly….watching too much Marvel
Sagan is an illustration that the smartest people generally speak clearly. He might have been a great scientist, I don't know. But he was a great explainer. I had the privilege of meeting with him, and he was exactly as appears in his public persona.
Wow. Major envy. Every time I hear this guy I feel closer to god. Truth cannot be far from god.
@@jaycee30865 lol
“Dragon in my garage” is such an amazing analogy of how most religious people justify their faith.
As a general rule when I use the word 'god' it is immediately followed with the suffix 'damnit'...
*THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVEN'T AMOUNTED TO VERY MUCH IN LIFE*
@@matthewclay6535 Hmmmm....that causes me to wonder how you would have any idea as to what I've amounted to in this life, well life in general since I don't sit around and think about imaginary golden streets in the sky...Easy on the caplock as well since wrath is one of the deadly ones...
@@matthewclay6535 LOL the typical religious idiot with claims that has no evidence behind them.
Asserting things the only thing theists able to achieve. Lying day and night, that's religion. Thank you for exposing it more! ;)
Good job!
@@timwhite7127 *Good luck!*
A voice of reason called to me. Thank you Carl.
"I'm asking you to define yours, if you have one".
If you require others have their interpretation of a construct you need. Don't be upset when their interpretation isn't what you wanted.
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We need Sagan now more than ever. The inmates are running the asylum and it’s maddening.
_"The inmates are running the asylum"_
_'The inmates/lunatics are running the asylum'_ quote was originally made by a 1919 movie studio executive complaining about actors (who were then viewed as little more than children) gaining power over the studios and making filming decisions themselves! Thing is, history demonstrated that an actors decision was generally _superior_ to a typical corporate studio exec's decision, so a reference to inmates/lunatics running the asylum is _not_ a good analogy!
Creator of the universe, Earth, and life on it.
Nice selection, but unfortunately a few errors in the subtitles:
5:32 "hedge our bets", not "headed our bets"
5:48 "you phrased the question", not "you praised the question"
6:28 "begats", not "baguettes"
6:35 "plus or minus a little". not "plus reliance a little"
7:10 "roi fainéant", not "hua thineonte"
The subtitles are generated by computer.
Unfortunately, UA-cam does not employ human proofreaders to double-check automatically generated subtitles.
@@LibraOwl Oh well, at least I spotted some issues and hope they would get fixed.
@@Seele2015au He just said it is auto generated. An AI voice recognition software pick up what it can and print it out on the monitor. Get in contact with UA-cam and complain there, the channels, and their owners has nothing to do with it.
What you dou mean when you use any language? Is is the language that has "meaning" (whatever that is); or is it the use of the language that is meaningful?
This videeo has been played before,...just under a different title.
Einstein wrote an article on Religion and Science pointing out the 3 stages of religion: 1) Religion of Fear; 2) Religion of social and moral values; 3) Cosmic Religion. He has also been quoted as saying: "Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame." My religion was founded on Einstein's Cosmic religion, and in my opinion It is literally the 2nd Coming. It's called waking up to the fact that EVERYTHING in the physical universe sprung from the Non-Physical Intelligent One Mind. Another quote from Einstein: "Great Minds have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds." I believe that people who ONLY believe in what can be "proven" are mediocre at best.
Funy that the smartest person couldn't prove that gods exist, yet people claim they do. That tells a lot about the person.
Using Einstein to validate your belief makes you mediocre one here. Einstein thought of God as the universe itself and it's underlying laws. Indifferent and hostile towards life. He didn't think of God as the kind of God you believe in.
And believing without evidence also makes you the mediocre one as you believe one claim without evidence yet you don't believe all the others. You follow one religion yet you reject thousands of other religions and millions of other Gods.
If Einstein died without accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior then he is currently in hell
@@dorkception2012 Bro, Einstein didn't even believe in a personal God. He thought of the universe and the laws of nature as God.
@@thesmartstickguy1145 Sure, so nothing like the Bible or any other theistic religion claims it is.
Charlie Rose just can’t shut up and listen can he?
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Faith is belief without evidence.
Bell sound too loud!!
The definition of god is indeed a big problem for believers. Because god is only in the mind of the believer there are countless religions, denominations and sects. If there was only one god this would not be so.
And believers just make excuses why their version or concept of god is correct. And all without a shred of tangible evidence. And I do mean 'not a shred'! Because in 30 years I have not seen or heard any tangible evidence for a god or gods. And nor has any believer either. Otherwise they would have presented it by now.
The propensity for belief in spirits/gods comes from the structure of the human brain/mind. The god we see/feel is us. Our survival niche is cooperation with others for which our brain/mind is structured making us anthropomorphize the world. Theists know that there is a god, they just don't know that it is themselves.
He's right. 'God' is a generic term. There are thousands of them. It's a category. Capitalizing it is like saying, Dog or Car, etc. And I think that the idea of a god is the ultimate blame game; nothing else.
I can't stand when people do that. You say you're an atheist and suddenly they attack you and ask why you want to abolish religion or why you want to remove religion from people's lives. It's nonsense how much idiocy people believe. I don't believe in your bullshit. You're welcome to believe it, but just keep it away from me.
The point is their beliefs do effect all of us. They are a hindrance to progress.
Was he not agnostic?
@@2011littlejohn1 *Your comment of... "The point is their beliefs do effect all of us. They are a hindrance to progress." Do you have any evidence of that? Would love to hear any amount of evidence you might have on this topic of religious beliefs being a hindrance to progress. P.S. You misspelled "effect." It's affect. Just an FYI.*
@@baxoutthebox5682 Not talking about Carl Sagan. Was talking about that first journalist/interviewer. He immediately went on the offensive and started the "You're an atheist? So all this faith and hope and goodness etc all means nothing, then?"
@@matthewclay6535 Firstly I didn't misspell the word it was a grammatical error. The troubles between the two warring factions in Northern Ireland had its roots in religious differences which changed the economics and political power. If you feel that blowing up housewives in department stores is a sign of progress then may your god help you.
The word "God" to most Christians should mean "YHWH" or "Yahweh" a barbaric Hebrew male being with supernatural powers who created all things.
Unfortunately the word "God" refers to his son Yeshua/Jesus who became a sacrifice to his heavenly father to forgive the sins of mankind.
If you examine the story as an outsider/skeptic/atheist it means no sense whatsoever to a thinking person.
That's why 90% of religious people are simply dull. The leftover are either traumatized or act like one to not get exiled.
apes will be apes just like their gods.
Spoiled bu advertising. I'm off.
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@@larrycarter3765 LOL Who cares what is your opinion?
Most people don't understand that all religions are man-made and all men are religious in some way shape of form. Carl Sagan was also religious. He was part of the religious cult of atheism. *The cult of self* where they worship the creature (themselves) instead of the Creator. Carl Sagan was very intelligent. But his cognitive biases did not allow him to see his own lack of evidence in the religious cult he was involved in. There's not a single evidence of life's origin and the origin of man without God. Something he very zealously believed in. And by the way, he was very wrong about the origin of science and history in the bible. The bible gives a chronological and genealogical order of the creation and origin of man so accurately and backed up by mathematical calculations that is not compared to any other text book in the history of humanity. The accurate genealogy of man's origin alone makes the Bible the only divinely inspired book in the universe.
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*Most factual math + human population history according to "the story of evolution"*
If humans (i.e., the genus homo ) have been on the Earth for roughly two to three million years. Using statistics, one can arrive at an estimate for how many people would be predicted to be on the Earth at different points in history. For example, accounting for factors such as *war, plagues, disease, natural disasters, and famine* and assuming humans have been on the planet for only one million, rather than two to three million, years, we find that there should be 10^2,000 people on the planet today. There are, however, not even 10^10 people on the Earth. In fact, if three-feet-tall humans with narrow shoulders were squeezed into the Universe like sardines, only 10^82 people could fit into the entire Universe. It would take 10^1,918 (minus one) other Universes like ours to house that many humans.
*Extremely generous math to try to favor the history of humanity according to "the story of evolution"*
Atheist scientists had originally said that humans broke off from ape-like creatures 2.5 million years ago. And that modern man evolved from that humanoid about 250,000 to 300,000 years ago. Well, even if we assume that humans have ony been on the planet for 10,000 years, when the alleged agricultural revolution started and being extremely conversative.
Only doubling the world's population every 150 years (currently the population doubles about 40 years), *after 150 years there will be 4 people, after another 150 years there will be 8 people, after another 150 years there will be 16 people, and so on* This rate is actually very conservative. (we have records of a Russian woman in the 1700's who gave birth to over 60 children). I am taking into account *disease, plagues, famines, natural disasters, wars, and reverse birth to death ratio at various intervals.* Way before the discovery of penicillin in 1928. We have records of women from the 1400's giving birth to 10 children on average, let's say only 5 would make it to old age for the factors mentioned above, so 2 children per couple every 150 years for 10,000 years it is extremely generous. Calculating these numbers, there would have been averaging close to 100 doublings in 10,000 years. The world’s population would be whopping figure of the # 1 followed by 30 zeros.
Check it out:
1,000000000000000000000000000000. You can still wipe out humanity a couple of times more and the numbers still don't add up.
*Think about this in 1912 when the Titanic sank and 1,500 people died. The world's population was only a little over 1 billion people. Fast-forward 100 years and we are 8 billion. And we have had world war I and world War II in between (70 million people died). In 1945-46 around 140,000 people died as a result of the bombing of Hiroshima, Plus the worst influenza plague the world has ever seen, which happened 1918 (50 million people die)* Still In the last 100 years alone we can see a population growth of 8 times its numbers.
*Now, let's look at this other also very conservative math:*
If we start about 4,500 years ago (time of Noah's flood, only 8 people survived).
After about 30 doublings, which is about 4,500 years, the world's population would have reached about 8 billion people (4,500 years ÷ 150 years in between births = 30 doublings // 8 exponentially doubled 30 times = 8,589,934,592 people). Give or take a few millions due to the negative factors mentioned above.
Yes, some Christians and many other religions believe in some sort of evolution. But this is only because they have been influenced by this indoctrination since they were children.
*Math doesn't lie. We can see how man invented the a theory of his origin to try to do away with God’s moral laws. We have lied about our origin, our history. And the studies of archeology, biology, anthropology, and so on. We even rather believe in panspermia (aliens from other galaxies). We are very ready to accept anything but God. BTW, religion is also man's made. For God there's only two religions good and evil*
There's gonna be people regardless of their educational level that because of their cognitive biases can look at these facts and will still want to continue their merry-way without having any accountability for their actions.
*Data taken into account:*
*We have the oldest world's population census data from China's Han Dynasty in 2 CE, which recorded a population of 57.7 million people.*
*World population record:*
"8000 BC This is an assumed date based on human evolution; which is a total fictional fabrication: The claimed world's population was around 5 million at the beginning of agriculture."
*The following world's population record is from factual census:*
1 AD: The world's population was around 200 million, but some estimates suggest it was closer to 300 million or 600 million.
1800: The world's population reached 1 billion.
1930: The world's population reached 2 billion.
1960: The world's population reached 3 billion.
1974: The world's population reached 4 billion.
1987: The world's population reached 5 billion.
1999: The world's population reached 6 billion people
2011: The world's population reached 7 billion people
2022: The world's population reached 8 billion people
2023: The world's population was 8,045,311,447.
*In 1912 when the Titanic sank, where 1,500 people died. The world's population was only a little over 1 billion people. Fast-forward 100 years and we are 8 billion. And we have had world war I and world War II in between (70 million people died). In 1945-46 around 140,000 people died as a result of the bombing of Hiroshima, Plus the worst influenza plague the world has ever seen, which happened 1918 (50 million people die)* Still In the last 100 years alone we can see a population growth of 8 times its numbers.
*COVID 2019 to 2024 about 7,010,681 people died. But there's still over 8 billion people on the planet.*
*Each year in the USA alone there are approximately 4 million births and 2.4 million deaths.*
The world's fertility rate has only been declining over the past 70 years, from around 5 children per woman in 1950 to 2.2 children per woman in 2021 (with the exception of a recorded case of a Russian woman in the 1700's who had 69 children) is due to a number of factors, including:
• Reduced childhood mortality: Mothers no longer need to compensate for lost children
• Increased women's autonomy: Women have more control over their lives
• Improved contraception access and efficacy: Contraception is more widely available and effective.
Sagan asked a important question: What do you men by 'god'. And the functionally illiterate audience laughed. How can you form statements containing 'god' if you do not know whar 'god' means.
THE WORD of GOD explains GOD
2Peter 1:19-21 Men Spake as they were Moved by THE HOLY GHOST
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2Timothy 3:16, 17 All SCRIPTURE INSPIRED BY GOD
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Psalm 138:2) David declares GOD MAGNIFIES HIS WORD
2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Isaiah 40:8 GOD'S WORD STANDS FOR EVER!
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
Proverbs 30:5, 6 EVERY WORD of GOD is PURE
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Jeremiah 15:16 The Prophet Jeremiah Trusted in God's Word
Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
The Word of God is TRUTH - The Lord Jesus says So when He prayed to The Father in John 17 ---
John 17:3-21 The Son Prays to The Father - Truth
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
The Curse on Those That Will Add to or Take From God's Word
Revelation 22:18-20 The Curse
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
This is speaking about this Book (Revelation), but it will most likely apply to any part of The Holy Scriptures if someone tries to tangle with God's Word.
All that stupid garbage and no one will read it...
There is no god.
@@ljramirez Once you bite the dust...
@@buukkreider544 what a stupid thing to say...
You don't exist when you die.
@@ljramirez That's what the last person said.
@@buukkreider544...and they were right.
He was far too kind on religion and faith. He should have taken these questions and people to task.
Carl Sagan existed, God doesn't and has never existed.
If dinosaurs believed in God, they would say they went extinct because God punished them for their sins. All species that went extinct because God punished them for their sins. 😂😂😂
*GOD doesn't exist?? Have a better explanation of what STARTED/CREATED the universe? Science has already concluded that the universe DID HAVE A BEGINNING.*
@@matthewclay6535 the better explanation is that your favourite god did it huh?
@@matthewclay6535 A beginning doesn't mean God.
@@matthewclay6535 Why have an explanation when we have no evidence, nor any way to find out the truth? Typical wishful thinking illiterate, who have no idea how proof works.
@@ingenuity296 *Thanks for ignoring my question of... Have a better explanation of what STARTED/CREATED the universe?*
No where in the bible does it say the world is 6,000 years old.
No where in the bible does it define the bible or claim the origins of the bible.
No where in the bible does it say the bible is infallible.
In the bible it says parables were used to teach.
I don't understand the point of this video. Mr Sagan has passed so we can't ask him, but the facts are we are here. And we seem happier with a purpose.
To which a member of the evangeliban would say, "so what's your point...?"
@@whatsup3270 Being an atheist doesn't make me anti-christian anymore than not being black makes me a racist. I am very pro-truth and I've yet to see any evidence the judeo-christian theology presents any "truth"...The golden rule is about all one needs to follow as a way to make our way through this world and the rest is either about control or picking one's pocket...But I'm sure you're not passing any form of judgement, are you...
@@whatsup3270 Being a christian to praise and worship god so that can be rewarded with an afterlife in heaven is also a poor life objective too.
@@leongkhengneoh6581 *Seemingly... seemingly... to the un-educated that may appear to be the case.*
Right, the Bible only claims that the Earth is not moving, that donkeys, snakes can talk, a flood engulfed all the Earth, people can live 600 years, people should own other people, it's ok to unalive babies, etc.
Also, the Bible do states that it is infallible, at least if you acknowledge that the Bible is the word of god and it's been "released" with it's blessing. 2 Peter 1:19
But not every thiests should read the Bible, right? Of course not, because that make more people becoming atheists!
There is no evidence that the universe "popped" into existence from nothing, yet, that is what Sagan believed
No, that is not what he believed. Something caused the Big Bang, and it was a natural cause.
that's what YOU believe, not Sagan. Sagan would admit that he doesn't know or that we cannot know about the beginning of the universe. YOU are the one that believe that a God sat around for an inginite amount of time and then suddenly decides to make the universe like a
13.8 billion years ago. Yeah, totally makes sense.
"You don't know how it happened therefore my made up explanation must be true!"
@thesmartstickguy1145 Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Why is this so hard to believe?
@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m "In the beginning, The Flying Spaghetti Monstee created the universe with it's Holy Tentacles" Pastafarian 1:1
Why is this so hard to believe?
@@thesmartstickguy1145 2 Peter 3:3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts.
He wasnt that brilliant, really. He said that religious people should not interfere with science because they have no expertise in it. Then he does the same thing with religion by stating, "Faith is belief in the absence of evidence." This is abjectly and patently false. He has no idea about faith and no experience with it, so he should shut up about it. Further, belief is not acknowledgement compelled by evidence, it is the choice to place ones trust in someone or something. If there is compelling evidence then there is no reason to trust. Religion does not deal with history, literature, or poetry. It only deals with morality. Again he is pronouncing on matters he does not understand. The science in the Bible was acquired from the Jewish religion, which preceded the Babylonians of 600 BC. The great Greek philosophers learned their philosophy from the Jewish philosophers. The Babylonians were in turn inspired by the learning of the Zoroastrian faith. However, he is very correct when he talks about all of the divergent descriptions of God. And that has come about because ignorant followers of religious teachings chose to turn away from the personal relationship with God that religion is intended to establish, and focus instead on dogma, doctrine, and ideology which serves no useful purpose, is ultimately unverifiable, divides people, and destroys that personal relationship. I understand everything Mr. Sagan said, and I sympathize with his reluctance to engage in discussions on it, but I dont respect his doing the same thing toward religion that he said it should not do toward science.
Interesting, but if everyone has a personal experience that is different from the personal experience of everyone else, would that not also lead to a wide variety of divergent descriptions of god?
Telling someone to Shut up isn’t a mature argument….. do better
@@vmolin2162 How many people throughout history have had divergent experiences with love? And yet, is not love a universally acknowledged phenomenon, without which life would be quite meaningless? If you ask anyone what love means to them, you will get an infinitude of responses, but pretty much variations on a theme. When I review religion through history, I can see a way in which it was intended to be a similar unifying force. Allow, for a moment, that there is an Infinite Being, Who created the universe and especially humanity. Intelligence implies purpose, so an all-knowing God would have definitely had a purpose. I believe His purpose is to have a relationship with each and every one of us. That purpose is actualized by us developing the spiritual characteristics with which he endowed us ("in His image", as the saying goes). The best way to achieve that purpose is by building similar relationships with every other human. In so doing, we come to recognize that each of us has the same inherent value. The more we develop it, the more we "approach" the perfection of God. Religion, then, consists of a vertical relationship with God and a lateral relationship between human beings. Morality, or spirituality, is the process of recognizing the intrinsic value of things and making choices that allow us to sacrifice lower values for higher ones (for example, the reward of generosity rather than the stinginess of hoarding). If this is what religion is, then we will all experience God in a very similar way, just like love. And since it is all about choices and actions, there is no need for the development of doctrine, dogma, and esoteric concepts that divide us. You may be surprised to know that the Sermon on the Mount contains only information about doing and behaving, and not a mention of doctrine or dogma. Three hundred years later, the Nicaean Creed is entirely about doctrine and dogma, and not a mention of doing or behaving. Religion has never disagreed or fought over actions like love, forgiveness, generosity, tolerance, etc., but it has always been divided by imaginary concepts like the trinity, the virgin birth, the resurrection, and creationism. And in my model of religion, there is absolutely no need for clergy of any kind. Guess who it was that created all of those doctrines and dogma that destroyed religion and created gods of many descriptions?
@@PhilipSuitters Seriously?
@@pathfinder1273 Guess who it was who created god and gods in the first place?
Humans.
Humans dreamed up Isis, Osiris and Set. Humans dreamed up Jupiter, Juno and Minerva. Humans dreamed up Odin, Freyr and Freya. Humans dreamed up every god and gods whose names appeared in this or that holy script.
And humans gave these "gods" moral values that "just so happen" to agree with their own.
The history of Israel in the light of the prophets are proof to me not just evidence. To say Jesus Christ is not evidence is absurd.
JC was just a man. No different to any other man. You can't fill your mind with what you want to be true. Study physics instead of the bible would be my advice.
I consider my introduction to mathematical proof to be one of the most important moments of my life.
Your equivalent is the machinations of ancient primitive men. Absolutely pathetic.
@@mryorkshire3623 The laws of physics biology and chemistry look like a put up job as Fred Hoyle said. If Jesus were just a man the jewish and roman authorities would have left Him alone not seeing Him as a threat and crowds of people would not have followed Him.
Where is the family line of Jesus today? Where are his bones or baby pictures? See, no evidence.
@@mrshankerbillletmein491you have no proof that anything you stated is fact, using the Bible as proof is a fallacy
Have you read Spinoza? Do you understand Spinoza's God?. Spinoza understood God exists, I understand God exists and you can understand. To understand God exists you have to understand the atheist logical fallacy. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is "sky daddy" to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheists misreason "sky daddy doesn't exist therefore god doesn’t exist, and all the arguments that point to the existence of god have to be wrong". To understand God exists you have to understand the kalam cosmological argument: what has a beginning of existence has a cause because from nothing can not be created something. Logically it is impossible the existence of an infinite number of causes, therefore an eternal first uncaused cause that created what has a beginning of existence exists. Did you understand why God exists? God exists because logically it is impossible the existence of the creation or finitude without the creator or infinitude!. If you pay attention you will realize atheists and religious people defend an idea without any arguments. The horrible reality that atheists and religious people sell doesn't exist!. To end the war the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. I am trying to overcome an unjust censorship. Thank you.
Don't use AI to write your comments. It fails, utterly.
I am an atheist because I have seen zero evidence of any god.
The kalam cosmological argument depends on the knowledge that there was in fact a beginning. Then it asserts that a god did it. We have no examples of anything 'beginning'; for all we know infinite regression is possible. If *everything* must have a beginning, then so must a god. If a god doesn't require a beginning (special pleading), then neither does a universe.
Now let's say we allow the (currently) undefendable position that the universe had a beginning. Why does that mean that of the thousands of gods worshipped throughout history, the one you believe in created it? What did it create it from? Nothing? (creation ex nihilo).
Contrary to the popular theist strawman, most atheists do not hold that the universe "came from nothing". If you hold that this is, in fact, the common atheist position I would ask that you provide *primary* sources/citations for this information.
Having said that last bit, allow me to point out that an atheist has one position: A lack of belief in any god(s). Nothing more, nothing less. Atheism is *not* a stance on cosmology, evolution, biogenesis, or any other scientific discipline you care to name. To change an atheist's mind, you need only provide evidence for a god (or in some cases, any *verifiable, repeatable, falsifiable* evidence of the supernatural).
Edit: I should point out that I misspoke above as there are cosmological hypotheses that propose the beginning of the current instantiation of our (visible) universe, but even those purport a singularity, or some other *something* for this instantiation to have come from.
@@ShulgiAdad what has a beginning of existence has a cause because from nothing can not be created something. For example you have a beginning of existence, you didn't exist before you were born. For example your comment have a beginning of existence. Many things have a beginning of existence. Do you agree? Bear in mind atheists would not be able to prove their own existence to themselves if the logical conclusion is God exists and lose their children believing without questions asked that gambling causes a brain disease, and when they are told they don't care.
You are wrong about atheism, either purposely or ignorantly.
Logically it is impossible for there to not be an infinite causal regression.