“Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.” -Christopher Hitchens
Atheism is my conclusion. Humanism is my motivation. I don’t need an ancient book that promises reward for good behavior and threats of torture to deter bad behavior. I just simply strive to be good for goodness sake. No gods required.
Well good for you, but who really gives a sh*t about your conclusion and motivation, do you think you're smarter and above those who worship? So what if people choose to be part of a religion with certain beliefs, as long as they are good people, it shouldn't bother you.
@@DEE-qu5mcit should bother him as people who hold religious belifs want to push their religion on others. Decide laws based on those belives etc. Then its no longer just someone sitting at home praising a god and not bothering anyone with it.
After extracting DNA from the samples, Wolfe used the genetic codes of four different genes to determine how the various species are related to one another. He then used a process called ancestral state reconstruction to show that the mushrooms have switched from being decomposers to being symbiotic with trees only once in their evolutionary history. Once the mushrooms switched to this new symbiotic lifestyle, they didn't go back to their free-living past. Ultimately, Pringle said, the paper highlights one reason she finds such symbiotic partnerships "intrinsically interesting" -- for all their apparent benefits, the cost can be high. "I think the really interesting thing is this idea that once you become symbiotic, some of your machinery is lost," she said. "It seems like a dead end in some ways -- you have to make this change to enter this niche, but once you're there, you can't go back -- you've lost the capacity to be free-living." Arguably the most widely-recognized group of mushrooms in the world, Amanita mushrooms
@@jsanders100 That is demonstrably not true. He bases his position on science and thought experiments. Religion, on the other hand, has no base in provable facts. The giant teapot argument is a good example of how religions work.
@@jsanders100 I agree with you about remembering that Stephen Fry is simply stating what his (presumably) sincere version of reality is! ... ...He does tend to be dogmatic in pushing his opinions in the video however....( But listen! - did you ever notice how popular a speaker turns out to be when all the video viewers hear their OWN pet opinions and viewpoints coming out of his mouth! 😀)
@@SCK586not to those with an open mind he doesn’t. If on the other hand you have been brainwashed by religion I can see why you would think he is misguided.
@@Captain101-x1o Thanks for your response..One point before I leave here - - try to be very careful not to be caught into the easy trap of dismissing people of faith as "brainwashed" as that implies that a person(however deeply educated for example) is not capable of doing his own years of rational thinking and decision after years of careful study and experience. That would be extremely dismissive and insulting and I am certain that you wouldn't want to engage in any part of that.. ..Good wishes on your own path wherever it takes you!
@@SCK586religions is a crutch foe the weak minded , who cannot fathom reality , you people who crumble at the idea of your life being meaningless NEED GOD TO TELL YOU YOU MEAN SOMETHING , and thats sad , your ego is so fragile you need an imaginary friend to tell you he loves you and cares about you and will bring you salvation , you are literally a clown 😂😂😂
how are you people any different from traumatised kids who make up imaginary friends to deal with trauma? Please tell me how religious people are any different from a child with imaginary friends
I was raised a Catholic but abandoned it when I found abundant proof it was a con job. Here's just one item in that array of proofs. This Passion story is that of Baal or Bel of Babylon/Phoenicia, as revealed on a 4,000-year-old tablet now in the British Museum: 1. Baal is taken prisoner. 2. He is tried in a hall of justice. 3. He is tormented and mocked by a rabble. 4. He is led away to the mount. 5. Baal is taken with two other prisoners, one of whom is released. 6. After he is sacrificed on the mount, the rabble goes on a rampage. 7. His clothes are taken. 8. Baal disappears into a tomb. 9. He is sought after by weeping women. 10. He is resurrected; appearing to his followers after the stone is rolled away from the tomb. That myth routine was repeated many times before and after Baal's time by modifying the plot slightly with a different man-god. It all proves that you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can fool yourself totally when you desperately need to have someone else to rely on to save you from yourself and your dysfunction as a being.
@aleccullen2696 Like you I was born into Catholicism and went to Catholic Primary school then a Catholic grammar school. The primary school was run by nuns. The headmistress was a mad Irish nun with a tendency to hysterical outbursts. The grammar school had priests but they weren't that dominant. RE was virtually non existent tbh. The priest in charge of RE was an alcoholic who spent most lessons telling us how much he hated us. He was also chaplain at a local US Air Force base. How he got THAT job is a divine mystery. But he was obsessed with bazookas for some possibly Freudian reason. It was bazooka this, and bazooka that. We called him Bazooka Joe. And razor blades. He kept telling us about chewing razor blades. RE "lessons" were just wasted 45 minute lacunae in the day. Most of the time Bazooka Joe was half or fully drunk. In fact he was a wonderful object lesson in the benefits of avoiding drugs and alcohol. Otherwise you might end up like Bazooka Joe.
@aleccullen2696 Your description of Baal is very interesting. Also I've read that the whole flood story is described in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Concerning the divine origin of Jesus, the whole god came down from heaven and did the business with a human woman, is fairly recurrent in the Mediterranean classical world. Zeus came down from Olympus and made love to the nymph Semele and she gave birth to Dionysos (Roman Bacchus). He was a party god. Bacchus was portrayed with his trans friends in the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics that all the Christians got their knickers in a twist over. Also Olympias, mother of Alexander the Great said that she slept at the foot of Mount Olympus. Zeus came down and made love to her. Her sprog was Alexander, and therefore a semi divine being. Her real husband, Philip of Macedon, didn't get a look in. It's not hard to see where the Gospel writers (written in Greek) got their ideas from. These mythologies were common throughout the middle east and Mediterranean.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw cannot serve God and mammon! but want to join ""christain"" or ""cathclic"" school YOU NEED ALOT OF MAMMONS BLESSINGS!!!!!! should rename them to MAMMON schools.
So glad that Stephen got to know Christopher Hitchens ( my hero ) their conversations must have been off the scale using words that make me reach for google. Three words that would make life so much better. Think For Yourself. No right thinking person can challenge that.
Fry & Hitch doing the Intelligence Squared debate against Widdecombe and a ?bishop that I don't know the name of, is such a joy to watch every couple of years.
My friend went to a catholic school and she says that the nuns were vicious! They told her if she didn’t go to church every Sunday and put money in the collection she would burn in hell - she was just 5 years old when they told her that. How very Christian 😢
I went to private catholic schools too for 9 out of my 12 school years. I saw the nuns and priests as a gang of bloody sick weirdos. And yes, they were vicious physically and verbally.
My brother was baptised by one of those priests that were moved about 😂 He was in prison by the time I was born so I wasn't washed by a peado. Moved from parish to parish for years, got finally jailed because he was transferred back here 😂 Went to prison for like 8 years, got out, married my primary school teacher then left the country. What kind of ring were they running 😂 Still people in my family that refuse to believe he did it...
@skindred1888 Religious people have done some nasty nasty stuff over the centuries. But covering up and allowing Priests to continue to assault children is by far the most vile.
Dearest Respected Stephen, a true gentleman in all aspects. I am really inspired by you and I have found my idol. You are Absolute genius. Finally, I can say, I have seen and heard a good human being. I feel exactly the same as you. There is so much cruelty in this world. I really want to believe there is someone good. It's amazing how paranoid, defensive and aggresive certain people get, especially those that refuse to have an open mind for the realiity. A spiritual attitude helps. The real angels, through my eyes, are people like you. I'm not saying this because you are multi-talented and famous. I say it because I feel exactly the same as you and respect and admire you. Beautifully worded. May I also take this opportunity in congratulating you on your performances, in Jeeves and Wooster, Blackadder, QI Quiz Show and your outstanding performance as Oscar Wilde. BRILLIANT. I really love and admire you as a human being first then as an actor. I hope that as life passes by, I evolve and become just like you. Thank you, Steven, just for being you. Please don't change. God bless you with all the good health, long life and happiness. I also dont' believe in religion etc...and am just spirtual. The greatest thing in life is to evolve into a good human being and do good karma; especially to those less fortunate than ourselves; those that can't speak for themselves and I'm vegan too. Rajeev. xx
I love Stephen Fry, I’ve loved and respected him since I was very young! “How dare you command”! That was what took me away from baptism! My kids are able to become the people they want to be because of the thoughts I share with Stephen Fry! I would love to meat him, but I would probably not speak a word, just listen! How can someone be so strong I often wonder, go against everything he’s been thought, but somehow I did the same, but waited until I became a parent, and gave my two sons the freedom of being who they want to be! Without religious dictatorship which I am stuck with, no matter what I do! I say to people that I’m an atheist but the truth is that I’m an agnostic! When religion takes over your mind you can never really escape it, no matter how hard you try, you can only let evolution take care of your wannabe atheism! And as Stephen Fry says my parents live on in my heart and in my kids hearts and they’ll tell their kids about my parents! That’s humanity and how we are! No fear, just love and just humanity ❤
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 "And today's scientists agree with those facts!" Nope, they don't. At least no serious scientists. That's a lie. Or you are referring to "biblical scientists" which is a contradiction in itself. And some of those are clearly doing this for money and power.
Musician Gary Numan was flying back to the UK from the U.S. and found himself on a flight with Rev. Jesse Jackson and his entourage. He wrote that they knew of Numan's atheism and were playfully teasing him about it. He said, "I don't believe that there's a God but even if there is, we shouldn't let him get away with it."
@paulcontursi5982 Jordan Petersen is mildly irritating but Anne Widdicombe is much worse. A pompous inflated self important windbag with her innate sense of moral superiority. She was a Tory politician. The only good thing to be said about her is that at least she's not Marjorie Taylor Greene.
@@ghazanfaryaq6776 if they are no fools why do they insist on promoting evolution as fact and pretend that life got started on its own when every scientist knows life comes from preexisting life, oh, that's right ,how life got started is not part of evolution, yet evolution is presented as if it has been proven, could it be that most scientists are actually aware of this inconvenient fact but keep quiet about it so they don't get laughed at?
@nigelmcculloch3746 - With the passing of time, evidence for evolution is getting stronger than ever. Creationism on the other hand has no leg to stand on. The Natural History museum in London, England has a whole floor devoted to Charles Darwin. Talk to any Biology professor, and she will tell you what I'm saying right now.
I asked as a child a priest if a man on a remote island would go to heaven provided that he was a good man but didn´t know Jesus Christ, and the priest said "no". That was the point where I couldn´t believe anymore. I´ve always had a sense of rightfullness and I felt very strong that believing in a higher being was wrong.
@@keltenbleich Very odd that! - Re /the man on the remote island... for the RC Church the answer would that the man would be overwhelmed by God's love in Heaven... Absolutely no question....
Mr. Fry is a very kind and compassionate person. I agree with him on many levels, but I’m not ashamed to strongly state that I am an atheist. We are all different with different perspectives: even beyond our religious beliefs.
You don't need religion to 'reward' you at the end of your life for being kind to others. The reward is seeing people be thankful and sharing in that natural compassion to make a positive impact on others and therefore yourself. When you reach that end, you will see the life you lived play before you, and if you were a kind, compassionate, helpful person to others, you will see a world of smiles as you pass away, and remembered fondly in the hearts of those who will have loved you for it.
Dear Stephen on behalf of christianity i would like to tell you we do love you & appreciate all your good works.........we also forgive you for arguing so eloquently against our religion & faith belief & hope in a Good loving God & the teachings of His son Jesus Christ ........ your deep frustrations & righteous indignation about the state of the world & it's injustices only prove to us how much you care for us & love us too x
Come to Scotland. It's like 50% with no religion 😂 Had to go to a catholic school and I think in my year of 200 odd students there was maybe 6 religious...which were Muslim. Still had to go to mass every week
@@skindred1888 Scotland will believe in God again when they will see the sickness of this empty BS cult called atheism is... tell them this. Andf tell them that God will care about them as well, so it is better to do not be godless alone weak people, for no reason.
@@faithpearlgenied-a5517 wow, you really are stucked into this empty sick cult, kid? 3 min and already to kiss their a... you are just frustrated as any atheists, get out from this sick cult.
@@ldihm9368 I have a sneaking suspicion that there are far more of us atheists in the world than the numbers show. And many of them most likely live in countries where if the public was aware of their thoughts on religion, their lives would quite literally be at risk. Here in the United States in the southern states and in rural communities, atheists have to keep their thoughts on religion under wraps because their families would ostracize them, their coworkers would abandon them and like in my friend’s case, her landlord evicted her and her two children. Which wasn’t legal until Trump signed an executive order of “religious freedom” giving religious fundamentalists permission to use their religion to discriminate against their fellow Americans who didn’t align with the religious beliefs that they were free to choose for themselves.
Stephen is awesome. It always seems to be that people want to place you in a group - but I like it that I am an individual who grows and thinks and tries to become a better person.
As Brian Dalton said recently, "If with great power comes great responsibility, then with all power comes all responsibility." This, I think, is the summation of a point that we often make. If ANYTHING exists apart from "god" then that god is NOT the creator of everything. A creator god created the elements and conditions for everything that pleases and displeases it. That does not fit into the control narrative of religion.
Not only that, but if God has all responsibility and is all good, then evil shouldn't exist by default. If evil exist, we can only assume that God either isn't all good or isn't all powerful. And if he isn't all good, then he isn't worthy of worship. And if he isn't all powerful, how did he create the Universe, but can't fix much smaller problems? It all crumbles down. God can only exist if he's imperfect.
@oso_nomada there is no irony. Stephen obviously doesn't understand how slavery worked back then. Slavety was a way to pay off debt. Also, God gave very clear instructions on how slaves were to be treated. One more thing. Modern-day slavery was ended by Christians. Where were the atheists? I guess they were too busy denying the obvious. Hopefully, YT doesn't delete my comment this time.
@@oso_nomada how do you know they were less intelligent than we are now? We aren't actually any more intelligent. We just have better things to discover with. This is what's called "Historical snobbery"
Religion was invented before mainstream taxes was. And like taxes, it was a way of controlling the people. All religious leaders are rich people, all oil companies are rich. And these two things are the cause of every war known to man. Corruption and power equals religion and oil.
Oil is a fairly recent discovery, organised religion was always about power. My father told me that with the aristocracy in England, the first born son would inherit the estate, the second son would usually join the army ( as an officer obviously) and the third born would join the church, where he could preach the importance of knowing your place, and the reward for working yourself to death, at an early age, would be in heaven.
@@kevincanham4783 No... the other way around! - - Before Christ founded His Church, he often referred to the need to pay taxes to the State... "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's..." If you are reading the New Testament you'll find the full discussion that that they were having and the rest of what Jesus said... (I won't try to write it all out here!)
He is a global treasure and has a incredible way to explain and formulate his wordings. He totally crushing all arguments and we can all notice the difference of his speech compared to JPs "wordsallad".
@@Tybold63 Yes... now the next step could profitably be to learn to really listen to others with some semblance of respect.... Oh yes-- and try to cultivate some humility... Can't see it happening any time soon.
I think God (eternal omniscient being that governs the entire universe as well as starting it all etc etc) only started to need money with the spread and organisation of Christianity. They started building churches with priests, bishops, deacons, altar boys etc. They all need feeding housing watering and fine luxurious clothes and a very high standard of living. Therefore GOD needs money.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Imagine if your god was powerful enough to build a church that had magic light and heating and never need repairing. Now THAT's evidence.
At the time Jesus lived, he was surrounded by roughly 400,000 people occupying the land now known as the Palestinian/Israeli Strip between Egypt and Lebanon. God's total focus was upon these people and this land, at that time, as per the bible. But Why?! Not that far to the east were 56 million Chinese who weren't mentioned. To the southeast there were 75 million Indians who were not mentioned. Heck, there were 250 million to the south in Africa and 90 million in the Americas. God, the Christian and Hebrew God(s) chose to ignore over 500 million humans. Who created them? They believed in many different Gods. So were there more Gods who battled for supremacy? No! Religion is a natural development phase as education broadens. But as education increases so does the need for religion diminish. 👋😎 My Two Nickels.
Spot on 👍 You would think he would at least do a world tour. If Father Christmas can do it in an evening I sure an all powerful God can pull it off. Maybe he just couldn’t be bothered, it was a Friday afternoon and he had another universe to create next week.
It is funny that when "Jesus" was born wise men and people came from all over then we do not hear a thing till he was in his 30s. Those wise men would have recorded everything including him taking a dump behind a bush at 7 etc... They would not have seen the son of god and then left.
What’s this “Jesus” and “God” nonsense? I don’t believe any of what you say whatsoever. Religious wars throughout history have caused untold deaths and suffering. Add to that, World War 1 resulted in at least 15 million dead; World War 2 at least 70 million dead (feel free to check these stats online, I’ve used the lowest estimates). IF THERE IS A GOD, then this god wishes to inflict pain and suffering on mankind. Look at the war in Ukraine, look at the middle eastern war. There we have thousands dying each day. What a lovely and HEARTLESS god you believe in. Total bullshit.
At the heart of every argument is the call to rethink what you believe, so you are sure that your absolutes are not an aftermath of mere feelings without an undeniable foundation. This is why I find so much meaning in simply placing my faith in Christ Jesus.
Pity that the subtitles get so many words wrong, as this most eloquently spoken man makes beautiful use of language. The words that he uses are perfect. In these times of "lowest common denominator" education, intelligent young people could learn a lot from Mr Fry.
As soon as he mentions slavery, that really got me. As a 33-year-old white guy I disapprove of slavery, I still can’t believe it’s a thing today(IIRC if anyone can remind me if it’s still happening today). That’s a quarter of why I’m not religious anymore and honestly it felt like a weight off my shoulders as soon as I left. Of course, I feel bad for all the mindless drones out there that still believes in the religion. Quite a sad world we live in if I say so myself. What good is freewill if y’all still have to listen to some sort of invisible skydaddy rather than yourself?! Edit: as a final word, atheism has saved me from all the monstrosity going on and I wish I could’ve done this far sooner than 2022
Not really. The "dark ages" were ended with the renaissance that began in Florence, Italy & was led by Christians like Michaelangelo, Titian & Donatello ---- the Renaissance also led to the reformation, Protestantism & the Church of England.....
SF couldn't have been angry at god since he doesn't believe in god. What he said was that IF there was a god, the fact that its omnipotence allows children to suffer and die makes it a heartless and evil being. IF, IF, IF....
@@johnmaisonneuve9057 What I was referring to was JP's notion that SF sounded angry toward god and that such anger didn't do any good. SF replied that his notion of an unjust god was fictitious as he didn't believe in god. He wasn't actually angry at a being in which he didn't believe. And I agree with him.
I dont care if people believe in a religion, and i would fight for their right to do so. What i DO care about is not a single one of THEM would fight for MY right NOT to believe. THAT is why i dont trust a single one of them.
Hi. I'm a Catholic and I have many atheist friends. We're getting along quite well. Yeah, of course there're things that make us a bit bitter toward each other. But it never because of our religion view difference. For me, religion is a personal matter. As long as a person do good things to other people, to community, I have no issue whether a person is a theist or an atheist. The problem starts when one preference try to push the idea that they're the absolute correct thing in the world. The world definitely need more positive minds like yours
I feel sorry for the guy, he knows he will never be able to bring anything worthy about theism into the table. Otherwise, he makes good arguments about man mental health and the fake patriarchy allegations.
@@vamsikrishna4562 Really? Ok, here is an example, but you could've just googled it, right? ;) Anyway, so a woman complained about that she didn't have a job because the position were given to a man instead. And Peterson explained to her that just because she worked behind the counter for 8 years, that does not automatically mean she deserves a manager position. You can find plenty of like these online, funny that you couldn't...
The first four commandments order you to believe in and submit to a Hebrew god named Yahweh. The fifth commandment orders you honor your parents regardless of how bad they might be. The tenth commandment orders you to not want for yourself what your neighbors and friends have. The commandments against murder, adultery, stealing, and lying are obvious rules for getting along without needing an imaginary god to tell you that.
How much articulacy in one human brain is so admirable and enviable,a hero with language along with late great American stand up George Carlin and scientist Carl Sagan.
His first argument was that the Ten Commandments don't stop people from committing sins. Wow, so dumb! Maybe... just maybe it's because we have free will and can decide to act in a good or a bad way. They should be guiding our lives, but we can easily override them, even despite the alarm our conscience sets off when doing so.
@@davethesid8960 The thing is, it's not the commandments that are guiding us. Just about every human society that has ever been on this planet has some form of 'don't kill, don't steal, obey authority' code of laws, and as the centuries have gone by we've refined them into bills of rights and constitutions and moral/ethical philosophies. The commandments are just one of many sets of these early laws, but you give them special privilege above all others because you think they came from the creator of the universe. And, as Stephen said in the video, why don't they mention slavery? Or child abuse? Or r@pe? Three of them are devoted entirely to obeying an authoritarian figure and nothing to do with morality.
@@davethesid8960 ya know, every time someone wants to preach the whole "wree will, people are fallible" crap, they forget the ol reliable: "god wrote the moral code on our hearts" So........either god wrote them like that, or people are jerks and god isn't responsible. Choose wisely 🤣🤣🤣
Literally after coming down the mountain with the commandments, one of which literally said “thou shall not kill”, Moses immediately ordered the deaths of half of his people on the grounds of worshiping a false idol. And god was happy about it.
What I find sad about all this is that about 90% to 95% of the Human population Believe in some form of Deity and an afterlife. I always ask them well what about the before life and they look at me stunned like I never though of that before. But they usually don't keep going on that though and just go back to believing in God because it comforts them.
@@SCK586 yess, your rigth my agrument haas beien decdsimated by,, that huage mistakes or it was a grammatical error, because i did not spell check my internet comment
@@crazydinosaur8945 Your meaning was clear.. no problem! Let's give you full credit for your excellent sense of humour! (Now to go, buy a little chocolate bar.... a bar of frut and noot please! 😂)
A. Atheism offers 1. No absolute morality. Everything is subjective. 2. No meaning to your life. Life is just a span of time, where you suffer for a while before you are squished into oblivion. 3. No hope about your future. B. Christianity offers 1. A clear, absolute morality with guidelines 2. There is a reason for living 3. There are people who care about you 4. There is hope of eternal life of joy C. But some people pick atheism. Some even leave Christianity and become atheists. Why?
A sound proposal, because unlike god it actually exists, appears every day and provides useful light and heat. So far the concept of god has only provided conflict and misinformation.
@@PaulaXism...That's correct... straight from the science book... and so old and amazing that it could never have been made and sustained by human hands and limited human intellect.... So the forgotten question again... Made by?
@@SCK586I seen this, was it ashram? One of the celestial? I liked eternals, not many people rate it that highly in the mcu universe but I think it's definitely up there though.
Born a Catholic, have been an atheist for many decades now. Nobody ever has needed religion to guide them on how be a good person. I find it grating that the people, particularly Americans, who proclaim they are Christians are probably the least tolerant about views other than their own.
The first three commandments, presumably the most important, are just about this god. The fourth about keeping the sabbath, his day. Not a patch on the humanist Ten Commitments. What are they? Uncle Google will tell you.
The first commandment also seems to imply polytheism! “No other gods before me” what other gods? Seems a bit of an odd thing to say if he were the only god!
I am from Northwest Spain,Galicia.Today,I watched in the news another terrifying story about a woman whose name was Cristina Pérez,Who unfortunately died two months ago:when she was a little girl she was raped for more than 10 years for a priest and other men he knew,whom he "shared Susana".When an adult, Cristina contact the school and the Marianos(priests and members of the catholic congregation)and told them all that had happened to her.They promised her to send a forgiveness letter and an economical compensation.This was in 2019.The raper priest died in 2014.Well,the forgiveness was Never told to Cristiana amd of course they now denied everything that happened.Fortunately,Cristina told everything she had suffered when a child to her two daughters and her sister,Ana,Who IS taking all this guys to court.In fact,she has a recording of the conversation her dead sister had in 2019 with these order or catholic congregation from Madrid,by the way.Cristina fought an illness and died two months ago.One of the things "this Monster" told her before the abuses and raping was always:"God IS Happy for you because of making this on you".Also when he took Young Cristina to other priests and "men with uniforms",as Cristina declared.Now these Monsters say that Cristina's sister,Ana,just want to judge them for "hatred and líes,and also that the fact of sending a letter to someone who is dead,as money as well,is completely ridículous".Are these human beings?No!What about Cristina's daughters?They are being treated by psicologist ,her sister is absolutely Broken,torn ...Until when the society and the church and the Vatican are hiding their horrible crimes???They were by the fascists side in all wars ever ever:Franco,Hitler,Mussolinni,Pinochet,all catholic !!!! Stephen,you are so magnificent,so enormously empathetic with all happened not only in Spain but also in Ireland,the States and unfortunately all over the World.I wish you can read this story,real story about Cristina',Who died still Young and with her life completely destroyed by these "men of God".Justice for all yje víctimas,men,women,boys and girl!Stop so much cinisism and líes!My best wishes to you,Stephen.From A Coruña province ,Galicia.Marta.
I think religion/Christianity created Atheism and I completely understand why. When you read the bible and look at Christian church of the past, it's easy to react to pushing any God away or even an understanding of an afterlife. Most people associate anything of an afterlife through the religion they were brought up with. I know there is an afterlife from my experience as a young lad. I also learned my lesson while embracing Christianity, just how wrong it was, yet that does not take away of my knowing of consciousness surving after we pass from this life. Religion is utter ignorance, while Atheism is a natural reaction to that ignorance. Yeah, I think I said that correctly. lol
@davidcattin7006 Multiple experiences over the years. Christianity say they were Demonic, Atheists say were hallucinations, while others were witnessing the same thing. Gets old after a while. It just showed me life exists after we pass. That's all. Don't need to prove it to anyone.
I agree with most of what you say. Especially the irrelevance of religion in context of an afterlife. Religion is a man-made controlsystem thought up by primitive men in power with the sole purpose of remaining in power, using doctrine, persecution, violence, genocide and fear for eternal punishment to attain that goal, to me this is clear as day. I don't (fully*) agree with your statement that Atheism was created by religion... atheism is not a 'thing' as in... a movement or belief... but rather a state of mind... in essence it is the simple mindset of not believing any supernatural claims on the sole basis of faith, without there being empirical evidence to support said claims. *But atheism requires theism so in that regard I can more easily stand behind your claim... Some other things however are up for debate. Now 1'st of all I can't know what your experience as a young lad was but was it a near death experience? Because what you say about that is coherent to what others say when they recount their own nde. Although I'd argue (full disclosure, I never had an nde) that you can merely say that the conscience survives at least for a while... until you get revived that is... That has indeed been experienced and reported by others that were clinically dead for a short while but got resuscitated before they were brain-dead. This could point to the fact that as long as there is brain activity, there is a possibility for our concience to survive... But it is still not possible to say for certain that it survives indefinitely, because what happens to that concience when inevitably brain activity stops? Does it go on surviving as a metaspiritual entity that is now free of body and mind, or does it simply disappear after the last synapses have fired? Sadly the only way to know for sure is to... Well... Not come back. Personally I think the most honest explanation we have is (and I think it was S. Hawking that said this) that we (including our concience) return to a state of 'non-existence', at least we know for sure that we have all been there before, before we were conceived by our parents. Although I admit that being able to visit every place in the universe, unhindered by time or distance, free of a physical body, does sound very pleasing... I would like that to be the case but as an atheist I can't bring myself to just believe it. I am sorry for my rant and I thank you for your respectful and honest comment on this subject. It is nice, for a change, to read non-judgemental yet critical comments on this subject.
@Dantemertens82 No need to apologize. Wasn't an NDE. Several things when I was 3, 18 and 21. About Atheism. Some people become Ex-Christian by choice when they realize Christianity is BS. It seems their reaction is not believing in God or anything all together. If it wasn't for my experiences, I would be one hard core Atheist! I believe in NDE'S by the way. 100%. My experiences reinforce that narrative, Reincarnation as well.
Empirical Proof of God's Existence: (1) 'True' entails a cognitive presence; (2) We know the laws of the universe were true before they were discovered by corporeal life; therefore... (3) Since we know the laws of the universe were also true before corporeal life existed, we therefore have identified the existence of a non-corporeal entity that knew the laws were true. The proof that this pre-corporeal cognitive entity is God: The cognitive entity necessarily always knew the laws of the universe were true, where, therefore, thinking about the laws' integrity is absent, thereby identifying the omniscient being called God that does not think, it knows. The proof that there can be only one omniscient being: The concept of two, or more, omniscient beings is an oxymoron, since omniscience requires exclusivity...only one can be all-knowing; it's an oxymoron to have two or more who are all-knowing.
@@brian78045 lol, presups. Your Darth Dawkins script don't fly cupcake. I can presuppose Pink Unicorn Rainbow Sprinkle is the uncaused cause, the prime mover, the creator of ALL. He is outside time and space responsible for time and space. Trust me bro. Mah buuk sez so. Gotta have faith 🤣🤣🤣
@@SurgiusMaximus says, "Your Darth Dawkins script don't fly cupcake." How dare you refer to me in such a manner, proving we have a Satanist on the thread, shocked by my two discoveries.
@@SurgiusMaximus says, "our discovery is a thought experiment." The laws of the universe aren't thoughts, they're objective reality, hence the title...Empirical Proof of God's Existence.
ARRGH! Will you UA-camrs stop putting in hard coded subtitles that do not read what the person is saying. You got the second word wrong right at the start. Get a human to check before posting. But i guess You are grabbing already badly made clips to make this. I just wish that someone would do this properly. It is so important to present coherent discourse without errors.
“Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.” -Christopher Hitchens
Either all religions are true or all religions are false ! Bertrand Russell
@@deanodog3667 why this nosense empty sick cult called atheism should be the true?
That's probably the greatest non-sequitur I've ever heard!
@@stevew1904why ??
@@stevew1904 What does "that" refer to and why?
Atheism is my conclusion. Humanism is my motivation. I don’t need an ancient book that promises reward for good behavior and threats of torture to deter bad behavior. I just simply strive to be good for goodness sake. No gods required.
very noble way to live, I used to be Christian and briefly flirted with the idea of Islam before becoming a Buddhist
It’s not even for good/bad behaviour; it’s reward for believing; torture for not believing.
My religion is the conclusion I draw from my perception. Humanitarianism is my motivation. The two are not related. The gods don't care what I do.
Well good for you, but who really gives a sh*t about your conclusion and motivation, do you think you're smarter and above those who worship?
So what if people choose to be part of a religion with certain beliefs, as long as they are good people, it shouldn't bother you.
@@DEE-qu5mcit should bother him as people who hold religious belifs want to push their religion on others. Decide laws based on those belives etc. Then its no longer just someone sitting at home praising a god and not bothering anyone with it.
I could listen to Stephen Fry every Sunday. He doesn't preach or make me sing songs, he just makes me think.
You just said the absolute filthiest of dirty words for any religionist. SHAME! /s
@@hrh4961 you don't like opinions other than yours do you?
@@johnbrown6189 ?
@@hrh4961 shame on you, for your ignorance😂… the problem is you’re too ignorant to realize how ignorant your comment is
And he doesn't make you feel bad for not giving him money.
"God didn't create Man in his own image. Men created many gods in their own rival images."-Christopher Hitchens.
People who quote others don’t have their own ideas. Me, 2024.
Xenophanes made that claim.
After extracting DNA from the samples, Wolfe used the genetic codes of four different genes to determine how the various species are related to one another.
He then used a process called ancestral state reconstruction to show that the mushrooms have switched from being decomposers to being symbiotic with trees only once in their evolutionary history.
Once the mushrooms switched to this new symbiotic lifestyle, they didn't go back to their free-living past.
Ultimately, Pringle said, the paper highlights one reason she finds such symbiotic partnerships "intrinsically interesting" -- for all their apparent benefits, the cost can be high.
"I think the really interesting thing is this idea that once you become symbiotic, some of your machinery is lost," she said. "It seems like a dead end in some ways -- you have to make this change to enter this niche, but once you're there, you can't go back -- you've lost the capacity to be free-living."
Arguably the most widely-recognized group of mushrooms in the world, Amanita mushrooms
And then worms like you spewed it and called yourselves "independent" thinkers.
@@doveseye.4666 What's this got to do with the OP's comment?
Stephen Fry is so awesomely intelligent. Few can match his oratory wit & historical knowledge. He is just the Best.
But he is still just giving an opinion, just like me, or you. Nothing he says on this subject is anything but his own interpretation of reality.
@@jsanders100 That is demonstrably not true. He bases his position on science and thought experiments. Religion, on the other hand, has no base in provable facts. The giant teapot argument is a good example of how religions work.
@@jsanders100 I agree with you about remembering that Stephen Fry is simply stating what his (presumably) sincere version of reality is! ... ...He does tend to be dogmatic in pushing his opinions in the video however....( But listen! - did you ever notice how popular a speaker turns out to be when all the video viewers hear their OWN pet opinions and viewpoints coming out of his mouth! 😀)
Look into the late Christopher Hitchens. Stephen & Chris were good friends.
Pffft hmmmph 😂
Thank you, mr Stephen Fry.
Stephen has his demons. Flawed, honest and human he has more moral authority than the pope.
Stephen Fry is brilliant and awesome.
Comes across as very erudite but very misguided....
@@SCK586not to those with an open mind he doesn’t. If on the other hand you have been brainwashed by religion I can see why you would think he is misguided.
@@Captain101-x1o Thanks for your response..One point before I leave here - - try to be very careful not to be caught into the easy trap of dismissing people of faith as "brainwashed" as that implies that a person(however deeply educated for example) is not capable of doing his own years of rational thinking and decision after years of careful study and experience. That would be extremely dismissive and insulting and I am certain that you wouldn't want to engage in any part of that.. ..Good wishes on your own path wherever it takes you!
Stephen Fry is top of my dinner party guest list - shame he doesn’t know me!
Or leaning at a British pub bar having a chat over a pint.
@@jasonbutchers7878 My neighbour here was saying today that he definitely wouldn't fancy a greasy Fry for lunch. 😅
@@stephenconnolly3018 Except it wouldn't be a "chat".. It would be a monologue!, 😂
I went through 12 years of Catholic school and the word “empathy” was NEVER used.
That's because Catholicism has nothing to do with Christ.
@@IronFoot-n1q, do you believe in "God"?
@@IronFoot-n1q it’s more of a Mary cult
@@newmankidman5763 Yes, just not yours.
Me too, I only ever heard it after I left.
Stephen Fry. Legend
Christopher Morley, too.
Stephen Fry, Christopher Hitchens two men I admire greatly.
“Religion belonged to the infancy of humanity. Now that humanity has come of age, it should be left behind.” -Sigmund Freud
@@AFMMD-q8.... and yet Freud struggled to try and fathom where man's restless yearning and continual seeking for life to make sense came from...
Also he was a paedophile defender, look it up
Oh really ? Are you telling me freud was wrong because he didnt know everything ? shut up lol@@SCK586
@@SCK586religions is a crutch foe the weak minded , who cannot fathom reality , you people who crumble at the idea of your life being meaningless NEED GOD TO TELL YOU YOU MEAN SOMETHING , and thats sad , your ego is so fragile you need an imaginary friend to tell you he loves you and cares about you and will bring you salvation , you are literally a clown 😂😂😂
how are you people any different from traumatised kids who make up imaginary friends to deal with trauma? Please tell me how religious people are any different from a child with imaginary friends
I was raised a Catholic but abandoned it when I found abundant proof it was a con job. Here's just one item in that array of proofs. This Passion story is that of Baal or Bel of Babylon/Phoenicia, as revealed on a 4,000-year-old tablet now in the British Museum:
1. Baal is taken prisoner.
2. He is tried in a hall of justice.
3. He is tormented and mocked by a rabble.
4. He is led away to the mount.
5. Baal is taken with two other prisoners, one of whom is released.
6. After he is sacrificed on the mount, the rabble goes on a rampage.
7. His clothes are taken.
8. Baal disappears into a tomb.
9. He is sought after by weeping women.
10. He is resurrected; appearing to his followers after the stone is rolled away from the tomb.
That myth routine was repeated many times before and after Baal's time by modifying the plot
slightly with a different man-god. It all proves that you can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time, but you can fool yourself totally when you desperately
need to have someone else to rely on to save you from yourself and your dysfunction as a being.
Thanks for this comment. It is a good example of the mythological origins of a religion that tries to pass itself off as a true, historical account.
Very interesting. What is the name of that tablet? I would like to read more about that.
@aleccullen2696
Like you I was born into Catholicism and went to Catholic Primary school then a Catholic grammar school. The primary school was run by nuns. The headmistress was a mad Irish nun with a tendency to hysterical outbursts. The grammar school had priests but they weren't that dominant. RE was virtually non existent tbh. The priest in charge of RE was an alcoholic who spent most lessons telling us how much he hated us. He was also chaplain at a local US Air Force base. How he got THAT job is a divine mystery. But he was obsessed with bazookas for some possibly Freudian reason. It was bazooka this, and bazooka that. We called him Bazooka Joe. And razor blades. He kept telling us about chewing razor blades. RE "lessons" were just wasted 45 minute lacunae in the day. Most of the time Bazooka Joe was half or fully drunk. In fact he was a wonderful object lesson in the benefits of avoiding drugs and alcohol. Otherwise you might end up like Bazooka Joe.
@aleccullen2696
Your description of Baal is very interesting. Also I've read that the whole flood story is described in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Concerning the divine origin of Jesus, the whole god came down from heaven and did the business with a human woman, is fairly recurrent in the Mediterranean classical world. Zeus came down from Olympus and made love to the nymph Semele and she gave birth to Dionysos (Roman Bacchus). He was a party god. Bacchus was portrayed with his trans friends in the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics that all the Christians got their knickers in a twist over. Also Olympias, mother of Alexander the Great said that she slept at the foot of Mount Olympus. Zeus came down and made love to her. Her sprog was Alexander, and therefore a semi divine being. Her real husband, Philip of Macedon, didn't get a look in. It's not hard to see where the Gospel writers (written in Greek) got their ideas from. These mythologies were common throughout the middle east and Mediterranean.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw cannot serve God and mammon! but want to join ""christain"" or ""cathclic"" school YOU NEED ALOT OF MAMMONS BLESSINGS!!!!!! should rename them to MAMMON schools.
So glad that Stephen got to know Christopher Hitchens ( my hero ) their conversations must have been off the scale using words that make me reach for google. Three words that would make life so much better. Think For Yourself. No right thinking person can challenge that.
Fry & Hitch doing the Intelligence Squared debate against Widdecombe and a ?bishop that I don't know the name of, is such a joy to watch every couple of years.
Is this about thinking?
Stephen you're an inspiration. You have suffered throughout your life but yet you exhibit an addictive optimism . Thank you .
My friend went to a catholic school and she says that the nuns were vicious! They told her if she didn’t go to church every Sunday and put money in the collection she would burn in hell - she was just 5 years old when they told her that. How very Christian 😢
Fear is the only tool they have
I went to private catholic schools too for 9 out of my 12 school years. I saw the nuns and priests as a gang of bloody sick weirdos. And yes, they were vicious physically and verbally.
My brother was baptised by one of those priests that were moved about 😂
He was in prison by the time I was born so I wasn't washed by a peado.
Moved from parish to parish for years, got finally jailed because he was transferred back here 😂
Went to prison for like 8 years, got out, married my primary school teacher then left the country.
What kind of ring were they running 😂
Still people in my family that refuse to believe he did it...
@skindred1888 Religious people have done some nasty nasty stuff over the centuries. But covering up and allowing Priests to continue to assault children is by far the most vile.
According to the f-scale fascists are more likely to be superstitious.
I've had a sudden revelation, Steven! -- I've been a flimpest for all these years and never knew it. Thank you for showing me the light!
@@randywoods67 You were just fine as you were- believe me..
Dearest Respected Stephen, a true gentleman in all aspects. I am really inspired by you and I have found my idol. You are Absolute genius. Finally, I can say, I have seen and heard a good human being. I feel exactly the same as you. There is so much cruelty in this world. I really want to believe there is someone good. It's amazing how paranoid, defensive and aggresive certain people get, especially those that refuse to have an open mind for the realiity. A spiritual attitude helps. The real angels, through my eyes, are people like you. I'm not saying this because you are multi-talented and famous. I say it because I feel exactly the same as you and respect and admire you. Beautifully worded. May I also take this opportunity in congratulating you on your performances, in Jeeves and Wooster, Blackadder, QI Quiz Show and your outstanding performance as Oscar Wilde. BRILLIANT. I really love and admire you as a human being first then as an actor. I hope that as life passes by, I evolve and become just like you. Thank you, Steven, just for being you. Please don't change. God bless you with all the good health, long life and happiness. I also dont' believe in religion etc...and am just spirtual. The greatest thing in life is to evolve into a good human being and do good karma; especially to those less fortunate than ourselves; those that can't speak for themselves and I'm vegan too. Rajeev. xx
Careful that's how religions start!
& gay?
Stephen is so smart and such a great human being
I love Stephen Fry, I’ve loved and respected him since I was very young! “How dare you command”! That was what took me away from baptism! My kids are able to become the people they want to be because of the thoughts I share with Stephen Fry! I would love to meat him, but I would probably not speak a word, just listen! How can someone be so strong I often wonder, go against everything he’s been thought, but somehow I did the same, but waited until I became a parent, and gave my two sons the freedom of being who they want to be! Without religious dictatorship which I am stuck with, no matter what I do! I say to people that I’m an atheist but the truth is that I’m an agnostic! When religion takes over your mind you can never really escape it, no matter how hard you try, you can only let evolution take care of your wannabe atheism! And as Stephen Fry says my parents live on in my heart and in my kids hearts and they’ll tell their kids about my parents! That’s humanity and how we are! No fear, just love and just humanity ❤
I totally agree! The “church” has done more damage since the beginning of Moses than anything else.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 "And today's scientists agree with those facts!" Nope, they don't. At least no serious scientists. That's a lie. Or you are referring to "biblical scientists" which is a contradiction in itself. And some of those are clearly doing this for money and power.
Yawn! All well and truly debunked by real scientists.
@@Captain101-x1o Hey, Deadly: You are not correct. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?
Just wondering...
@@JGLy22086 I don't think the Church was founded until after the time of Moses... Back to the drawing-board when you get a moment perhaps?
Love listening to Stephen Fry
Musician Gary Numan was flying back to the UK from the U.S. and found himself on a flight with Rev. Jesse Jackson and his entourage. He wrote that they knew of Numan's atheism and were playfully teasing him about it. He said, "I don't believe that there's a God but even if there is, we shouldn't let him get away with it."
Loved it all except for having to listen to Jordan Peterson. He's an 'intellectual' in the same sense that Hulk Hogan is a 'professional athlete'.
@@greentoothbrush42Hogan is also more of an intellectual
hogan was a pro athlete , got payed to leap around the ring in corigraphed moves , all fake yes , but also very athletic
@paulcontursi5982
Jordan Petersen is mildly irritating but Anne Widdicombe is much worse. A pompous inflated self important windbag with her innate sense of moral superiority. She was a Tory politician. The only good thing to be said about her is that at least she's not Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Replace athlete with sportsman and I'd agree. It may be fake but you do need to be an athlete to be a pro wrestler.
@@PaulStargasm ?
What an utterly reasonable and admirable point of view......damn shame so few other people think that way.
Flimpists of the world unite
Preach the good word of flimpism
I don't have enough faith to be a flimpist!
I don't need small change for my teef anyhow....
lets not forget the irony that fry is himself a fairy !
Reading them in Biblical Hebrew is an eye opener. There are connections lost in translations. I love the vigour of the conversation. 🕊️
This man is a weapon, a weapon for the free folk!
He explains it so well. It makes my life so much easier to live by these principals.
Religion was invented when the first scoundrel met the first fool.
That is true !
Evolution was invented when the first fool met the first scoundrel!
@@nigelmcculloch3746That is why most of the scientific world has embraced it, and these people are no fools.
@@ghazanfaryaq6776 if they are no fools why do they insist on promoting evolution as fact and pretend that life got started on its own when every scientist knows life comes from preexisting life, oh, that's right ,how life got started is not part of evolution, yet evolution is presented as if it has been proven, could it be that most scientists are actually aware of this inconvenient fact but keep quiet about it so they don't get laughed at?
@nigelmcculloch3746 - With the passing of time, evidence for evolution is getting stronger than ever. Creationism on the other hand has no leg to stand on. The Natural History museum in London, England has a whole floor devoted to Charles Darwin. Talk to any Biology professor, and she will tell you what I'm saying right now.
I asked as a child a priest if a man on a remote island would go to heaven provided that he was a good man but didn´t know Jesus Christ, and the priest said "no". That was the point where I couldn´t believe anymore. I´ve always had a sense of rightfullness and I felt very strong that believing in a higher being was wrong.
@@keltenbleich Very odd that! - Re /the man on the remote island... for the RC Church the answer would that the man would be overwhelmed by God's love in Heaven... Absolutely no question....
I like George Carlins take on the 10.
Stephen Fry is amazing and so right
love SF!
Damn, this was great.
Mr. Fry is a very kind and compassionate person. I agree with him on many levels, but I’m not ashamed to strongly state that I am an atheist. We are all different with different perspectives: even beyond our religious beliefs.
You don't need religion to 'reward' you at the end of your life for being kind to others. The reward is seeing people be thankful and sharing in that natural compassion to make a positive impact on others and therefore yourself. When you reach that end, you will see the life you lived play before you, and if you were a kind, compassionate, helpful person to others, you will see a world of smiles as you pass away, and remembered fondly in the hearts of those who will have loved you for it.
Stephen Fry is the best!
Owning Widdecombe one on one. So satisfying.
Quite a low bar though.
@@gillosborne9516 Very true. I just find her infuriating though so it’s satisfying nonetheless to see her put in her place.
Thank God for Stephen Fry. 😀
1:16 in ... 'You're not mentioning the silly ones, are you?' GOLD😄
Dear Stephen on behalf of christianity i would like to tell you we do love you & appreciate all your good works.........we also forgive you for arguing so eloquently against our religion & faith belief & hope in a Good loving God & the teachings of His son Jesus Christ ........ your deep frustrations & righteous indignation about the state of the world & it's injustices only prove to us how much you care for us & love us too x
TEN, you only need one, "Do no harm to others".
Almost EVERY religion has something along the lines of "treat others like you want them to treat you." No god required.
@@kitmoore9969 I am a masochist...
@@chimera916 OK, you identify as an exception.
@@kitmoore9969 😂😂😂
Both "treat others as you want to be treated" and "treat others as they want to be treated" can lead to bad results.
Good for you Stephen. Keep opening people's minds.
@@hannekenachbahr2133 "opening people's minds"?.. Yeah, 😂 😂 and closing all mouths (except his own of course!)
I wish more atheist would speak out. We are definitely the minority.
Come to Scotland. It's like 50% with no religion 😂
Had to go to a catholic school and I think in my year of 200 odd students there was maybe 6 religious...which were Muslim.
Still had to go to mass every week
@@skindred1888 Scotland will believe in God again when they will see the sickness of this empty BS cult called atheism is... tell them this. Andf tell them that God will care about them as well, so it is better to do not be godless alone weak people, for no reason.
Depends where you are, here in the UK most people aren't religious.
@@faithpearlgenied-a5517 wow, you really are stucked into this empty sick cult, kid? 3 min and already to kiss their a... you are just frustrated as any atheists, get out from this sick cult.
@@ldihm9368 I have a sneaking suspicion that there are far more of us atheists in the world than the numbers show. And many of them most likely live in countries where if the public was aware of their thoughts on religion, their lives would quite literally be at risk. Here in the United States in the southern states and in rural communities, atheists have to keep their thoughts on religion under wraps because their families would ostracize them, their coworkers would abandon them and like in my friend’s case, her landlord evicted her and her two children. Which wasn’t legal until Trump signed an executive order of “religious freedom” giving religious fundamentalists permission to use their religion to discriminate against their fellow Americans who didn’t align with the religious beliefs that they were free to choose for themselves.
Stephen is awesome. It always seems to be that people want to place you in a group - but I like it that I am an individual who grows and thinks and tries to become a better person.
The man is brilliant
Stephen Fry. An Honest an Open Mind. It's what we all sense and he actually says. Quality.
As Brian Dalton said recently, "If with great power comes great responsibility, then with all power comes all responsibility." This, I think, is the summation of a point that we often make. If ANYTHING exists apart from "god" then that god is NOT the creator of everything. A creator god created the elements and conditions for everything that pleases and displeases it. That does not fit into the control narrative of religion.
Not only that, but if God has all responsibility and is all good, then evil shouldn't exist by default. If evil exist, we can only assume that God either isn't all good or isn't all powerful. And if he isn't all good, then he isn't worthy of worship. And if he isn't all powerful, how did he create the Universe, but can't fix much smaller problems? It all crumbles down. God can only exist if he's imperfect.
I completely agree with Stephen Fry. I share the exact same beliefs.
0:19 NAILED IT!!!!!!!
He didn't nail anything. He just showed his ignorance. There is no irony. Stephen is just your typical athesiist. Too lazy to check for the truth.
@@Jay-md6fk😂😂😂 the irony of your comment
@oso_nomada there is no irony. Stephen obviously doesn't understand how slavery worked back then. Slavety was a way to pay off debt. Also, God gave very clear instructions on how slaves were to be treated. One more thing. Modern-day slavery was ended by Christians. Where were the atheists? I guess they were too busy denying the obvious. Hopefully, YT doesn't delete my comment this time.
@@Jay-md6fk What exactly was he nailing about desert tribes .....what did they do ?
@@oso_nomada how do you know they were less intelligent than we are now? We aren't actually any more intelligent. We just have better things to discover with. This is what's called "Historical snobbery"
He’s absolutely correct on every point
Religion was invented before mainstream taxes was. And like taxes, it was a way of controlling the people. All religious leaders are rich people, all oil companies are rich. And these two things are the cause of every war known to man. Corruption and power equals religion and oil.
Oil is a fairly recent discovery, organised religion was always about power. My father told me that with the aristocracy in England, the first born son would inherit the estate, the second son would usually join the army ( as an officer obviously) and the third born would join the church, where he could preach the importance of knowing your place, and the reward for working yourself to death, at an early age, would be in heaven.
@@kevincanham4783 No... the other way around! - - Before Christ founded His Church, he often referred to the need to pay taxes to the State... "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's..." If you are reading the New Testament you'll find the full discussion that that they were having and the rest of what Jesus said... (I won't try to write it all out here!)
'That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.' (C.Hitchens)
Please give a Jordan Petersen warning .. cant even endure 1 second of his voice
He is a global treasure and has a incredible way to explain and formulate his wordings. He totally crushing all arguments and we can all notice the difference of his speech compared to JPs "wordsallad".
@@Tybold63 Yes... now the next step could profitably be to learn to really listen to others with some semblance of respect.... Oh yes-- and try to cultivate some humility... Can't see it happening any time soon.
He's all good all powerfull...but he needs money. Just cant handle money....(,George Carlin)
I miss George Carlin 💙
@@doneestoner9945 Me too.
Luckily, he's got people like Kenneth Copeland to sort it out!
I think God (eternal omniscient being that governs the entire universe as well as starting it all etc etc) only started to need money with the spread and organisation of Christianity. They started building churches with priests, bishops, deacons, altar boys etc. They all need feeding housing watering and fine luxurious clothes and a very high standard of living. Therefore GOD needs money.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Imagine if your god was powerful enough to build a church that had magic light and heating and never need repairing. Now THAT's evidence.
Stephen is awesome, a very intelligent man. His voice is so interesting and captivating, I could listen to him reading the phone book
At the time Jesus lived, he was surrounded by roughly 400,000 people occupying the land now known as the Palestinian/Israeli Strip between Egypt and Lebanon. God's total focus was upon these people and this land, at that time, as per the bible. But Why?! Not that far to the east were 56 million Chinese who weren't mentioned. To the southeast there were 75 million Indians who were not mentioned. Heck, there were 250 million to the south in Africa and 90 million in the Americas. God, the Christian and Hebrew God(s) chose to ignore over 500 million humans. Who created them? They believed in many different Gods. So were there more Gods who battled for supremacy? No! Religion is a natural development phase as education broadens. But as education increases so does the need for religion diminish. 👋😎 My Two Nickels.
Spot on 👍
You would think he would at least do a world tour.
If Father Christmas can do it in an evening I sure an all powerful God can pull it off. Maybe he just couldn’t be bothered, it was a Friday afternoon and he had another universe to create next week.
It is funny that when "Jesus" was born wise men and people came from all over then we do not hear a thing till he was in his 30s. Those wise men would have recorded everything including him taking a dump behind a bush at 7 etc... They would not have seen the son of god and then left.
What’s this “Jesus” and “God” nonsense? I don’t believe any of what you say whatsoever. Religious wars throughout history have caused untold deaths and suffering. Add to that, World War 1 resulted in at least 15 million dead; World War 2 at least 70 million dead (feel free to check these stats online, I’ve used the lowest estimates).
IF THERE IS A GOD, then this god wishes to inflict pain and suffering on mankind.
Look at the war in Ukraine, look at the middle eastern war. There we have thousands dying each day. What a lovely and HEARTLESS god you believe in.
Total bullshit.
George Carlin’s paring the list of 10 down to 2 is perfect
Anne Widdecombe sounds like a Monty Python character.
She's so weird.
Can't forget her on her swing in 'Strictly Come Dancing' ....those ankle length tights!
Almost. The Monty Python crew were simply too polite to come up with a character quite as vile as her.
She is a barking mad religious nut. A disgrace to humanity.
I love his intelligence and the way he speaks. Plus i find he's telling the truth.
I’ve watched Steven fry for more than 40 years, I never realized just how insightful and clever he is . UK
At the heart of every argument is the call to rethink what you believe, so you are sure that your absolutes are not an aftermath of mere feelings without an undeniable foundation. This is why I find so much meaning in simply placing my faith in Christ Jesus.
The only religious I object to are the ones that proselytize, because they're the ones that think they're right.
So basically all the theistic ones.
I object to anyone who tries to impose on me or my family on the basis of their 'personal relationship' with their imaginary friend.
Pity that the subtitles get so many words wrong, as this most eloquently spoken man makes beautiful use of language. The words that he uses are perfect. In these times of "lowest common denominator" education, intelligent young people could learn a lot from Mr Fry.
Fortunately, there are people like Stephen Fry in this crazy world full of superstitions and irrational beliefs! I never tire of listening to him.
What is an irrational belief?
As soon as he mentions slavery, that really got me. As a 33-year-old white guy I disapprove of slavery, I still can’t believe it’s a thing today(IIRC if anyone can remind me if it’s still happening today). That’s a quarter of why I’m not religious anymore and honestly it felt like a weight off my shoulders as soon as I left. Of course, I feel bad for all the mindless drones out there that still believes in the religion. Quite a sad world we live in if I say so myself. What good is freewill if y’all still have to listen to some sort of invisible skydaddy rather than yourself?!
Edit: as a final word, atheism has saved me from all the monstrosity going on and I wish I could’ve done this far sooner than 2022
Anne Widdecombe vs Stephen Fry... and Widdecombe really, really believes she has something to teach Stephen 🙄
She’s an excellent incarnation of a christian.
Really well edited, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Go away, Jordan Peterson. Just skedaddle.
Religion had it's day... it was called The Dark Ages.
Not really. The "dark ages" were ended with the renaissance that began in Florence, Italy & was led by Christians like Michaelangelo, Titian & Donatello ---- the Renaissance also led to the reformation, Protestantism & the Church of England.....
@@jennifersmith4864 I know when the dark ages were, thank you. It's a saying. Clearly you didn't 'get it'.
"...its a Commandment..." bang on. Humans (generally speaking) do not kill or steal etc.
“Am I to believe that my ancestors made it all the way to Mt Sanai thinking murder, theft and perjury were all okay?”
-Christopher Hitchens
SF couldn't have been angry at god since he doesn't believe in god. What he said was that IF there was a god, the fact that its omnipotence allows children to suffer and die makes it a heartless and evil being. IF, IF, IF....
Get real. No god or gods. That’s what he is saying. Believers are beyond help. Give it up, it’s all nonsense.
Yes but he doesn’t like religion, god or not
@@johnmaisonneuve9057 What I was referring to was JP's notion that SF sounded angry toward god and that such anger didn't do any good. SF replied that his notion of an unjust god was fictitious as he didn't believe in god. He wasn't actually angry at a being in which he didn't believe. And I agree with him.
@@tbass94 Could be. As an atheist I have little problem with religions that have no god/gods.
@@9y2bgy his grievance seems to be with monotheistic religions. I doubt he has much problem with Buddhism
I dont care if people believe in a religion, and i would fight for their right to do so. What i DO care about is not a single one of THEM would fight for MY right NOT to believe. THAT is why i dont trust a single one of them.
Well said. Not a single one of them has any concern for another human being if that particular human doesnt believe in what they do
Hi. I'm a Catholic and I have many atheist friends. We're getting along quite well. Yeah, of course there're things that make us a bit bitter toward each other. But it never because of our religion view difference.
For me, religion is a personal matter. As long as a person do good things to other people, to community, I have no issue whether a person is a theist or an atheist.
The problem starts when one preference try to push the idea that they're the absolute correct thing in the world.
The world definitely need more positive minds like yours
The only religions I object to are the ones that proselytize.
The cruelty of religion is a problem for me.
Good people who believe but can disregard the suffering that is innate in religion are NOT good people.
@@jonnawyatt agreed.
Thank God for people like Stephen Fry
Jordan Peterson on the verge of crying AGAIN! Horrid little man.
I feel sorry for the guy, he knows he will never be able to bring anything worthy about theism into the table. Otherwise, he makes good arguments about man mental health and the fake patriarchy allegations.
@@jhonvoyage2564 i did not understand about 'Fake patriarchy allegations?' Could you explain that a little bit.
@@vamsikrishna4562 Really? Ok, here is an example, but you could've just googled it, right? ;)
Anyway, so a woman complained about that she didn't have a job because the position were given to a man instead. And Peterson explained to her that just because she worked behind the counter for 8 years, that does not automatically mean she deserves a manager position. You can find plenty of like these online, funny that you couldn't...
@@jhonvoyage2564 I do not know much about jordan peterson. I just know him from the news because of the tweet he put out during israel palestine war
@@vamsikrishna4562 Most of his arguments are solid and just, that's why it's hard for me to believe that he is a wholehearted theist.
Love the man👍🌹
The first four commandments order you to believe in and submit to a Hebrew god named Yahweh.
The fifth commandment orders you honor your parents regardless of how bad they might be.
The tenth commandment orders you to not want for yourself what your neighbors and friends have.
The commandments against murder, adultery, stealing, and lying are obvious rules for getting along without needing an imaginary god to tell you that.
How much articulacy in one human brain is so admirable and enviable,a hero with language along with late great American stand up George Carlin and scientist Carl Sagan.
Why would a perfect god need worship?
He does not in most mainstream Christian belief systems.
@@tomgreene1843dunno where you're from... maybe American religion is just fucked
“It is better to have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned.”
He is the perfect example of a good education 😂
His first argument was that the Ten Commandments don't stop people from committing sins. Wow, so dumb! Maybe... just maybe it's because we have free will and can decide to act in a good or a bad way. They should be guiding our lives, but we can easily override them, even despite the alarm our conscience sets off when doing so.
@@davethesid8960 The thing is, it's not the commandments that are guiding us. Just about every human society that has ever been on this planet has some form of 'don't kill, don't steal, obey authority' code of laws, and as the centuries have gone by we've refined them into bills of rights and constitutions and moral/ethical philosophies. The commandments are just one of many sets of these early laws, but you give them special privilege above all others because you think they came from the creator of the universe. And, as Stephen said in the video, why don't they mention slavery? Or child abuse? Or r@pe? Three of them are devoted entirely to obeying an authoritarian figure and nothing to do with morality.
@@davethesid8960 ya know, every time someone wants to preach the whole "wree will, people are fallible" crap, they forget the ol reliable: "god wrote the moral code on our hearts"
So........either god wrote them like that, or people are jerks and god isn't responsible.
Choose wisely 🤣🤣🤣
@@davethesid8960you do realise the commandments have changed, And which commandment is anti- slavery?
@@SurgiusMaximus I can't figure out what you mean by that.
Literally after coming down the mountain with the commandments, one of which literally said “thou shall not kill”, Moses immediately ordered the deaths of half of his people on the grounds of worshiping a false idol. And god was happy about it.
What I find sad about all this is that about 90% to 95% of the Human population Believe in some form of Deity and an afterlife. I always ask them well what about the before life and they look at me stunned like I never though of that before. But they usually don't keep going on that though and just go back to believing in God because it comforts them.
I'm not religious, but Jesus had it sewn up with, "Treat thy neighbour as thyself".
if you are still religious in 21st century, you haven't read enough.
or read the wrong book(s)
@@crazydinosaur8945 Or got the "wrong" spelling?😂😂
@@SCK586 yess, your rigth my agrument haas beien decdsimated by,, that huage mistakes
or it was a grammatical error, because i did not spell check my internet comment
@@crazydinosaur8945 Your meaning was clear.. no problem! Let's give you full credit for your excellent sense of humour! (Now to go, buy a little chocolate bar.... a bar of frut and noot please! 😂)
@@SCK586 lol
A. Atheism offers
1. No absolute morality. Everything is subjective.
2. No meaning to your life. Life is just a span of time, where you suffer for a while before you are squished into oblivion.
3. No hope about your future.
B. Christianity offers
1. A clear, absolute morality with guidelines
2. There is a reason for living
3. There are people who care about you
4. There is hope of eternal life of joy
C. But some people pick atheism. Some even leave Christianity and become atheists. Why?
If you want to worship something, worship the sun, as there would not be life without it!🤔
A sound proposal, because unlike god it actually exists, appears every day and provides useful light and heat. So far the concept of god has only provided conflict and misinformation.
@@MrMrh1958 Absolutely right about all light coming from the sun.... Who will we thank for making it?
@@SCK586 A star forming nebula some 5 billion years ago would be a good choice.
@@PaulaXism...That's correct... straight from the science book... and so old and amazing that it could never have been made and sustained by human hands and limited human intellect.... So the forgotten question again... Made by?
@@SCK586I seen this, was it ashram? One of the celestial? I liked eternals, not many people rate it that highly in the mcu universe but I think it's definitely up there though.
Born a Catholic, have been an atheist for many decades now. Nobody ever has needed religion to guide them on how be a good person. I find it grating that the people, particularly Americans, who proclaim they are Christians are probably the least tolerant about views other than their own.
The first three commandments, presumably the most important, are just about this god. The fourth about keeping the sabbath, his day. Not a patch on the humanist Ten Commitments. What are they? Uncle Google will tell you.
The first commandment also seems to imply polytheism! “No other gods before me” what other gods? Seems a bit of an odd thing to say if he were the only god!
@@Captain101-x1o He was secretly lonely.
Steven fry top man, speaks perfect sense
Each religion is the true religion and all the other religions are false.
I am from Northwest Spain,Galicia.Today,I watched in the news another terrifying story about a woman whose name was Cristina Pérez,Who unfortunately died two months ago:when she was a little girl she was raped for more than 10 years for a priest and other men he knew,whom he "shared Susana".When an adult, Cristina contact the school and the Marianos(priests and members of the catholic congregation)and told them all that had happened to her.They promised her to send a forgiveness letter and an economical compensation.This was in 2019.The raper priest died in 2014.Well,the forgiveness was Never told to Cristiana amd of course they now denied everything that happened.Fortunately,Cristina told everything she had suffered when a child to her two daughters and her sister,Ana,Who IS taking all this guys to court.In fact,she has a recording of the conversation her dead sister had in 2019 with these order or catholic congregation from Madrid,by the way.Cristina fought an illness and died two months ago.One of the things "this Monster" told her before the abuses and raping was always:"God IS Happy for you because of making this on you".Also when he took Young Cristina to other priests and "men with uniforms",as Cristina declared.Now these Monsters say that Cristina's sister,Ana,just want to judge them for "hatred and líes,and also that the fact of sending a letter to someone who is dead,as money as well,is completely ridículous".Are these human beings?No!What about Cristina's daughters?They are being treated by psicologist ,her sister is absolutely Broken,torn ...Until when the society and the church and the Vatican are hiding their horrible crimes???They were by the fascists side in all wars ever ever:Franco,Hitler,Mussolinni,Pinochet,all catholic !!!! Stephen,you are so magnificent,so enormously empathetic with all happened not only in Spain but also in Ireland,the States and unfortunately all over the World.I wish you can read this story,real story about Cristina',Who died still Young and with her life completely destroyed by these "men of God".Justice for all yje víctimas,men,women,boys and girl!Stop so much cinisism and líes!My best wishes to you,Stephen.From A Coruña province ,Galicia.Marta.
I think religion/Christianity created Atheism and I completely understand why. When you read the bible and look at Christian church of the past, it's easy to react to pushing any God away or even an understanding of an afterlife. Most people associate anything of an afterlife through the religion they were brought up with. I know there is an afterlife from my experience as a young lad. I also learned my lesson while embracing Christianity, just how wrong it was, yet that does not take away of my knowing of consciousness surving after we pass from this life.
Religion is utter ignorance, while Atheism is a natural reaction to that ignorance. Yeah, I think I said that correctly. lol
Curious what was your "experience as a young lad".
I know evolution created all of this, whatever this is.
@davidcattin7006
Multiple experiences over the years. Christianity say they were Demonic, Atheists say were hallucinations, while others were witnessing the same thing. Gets old after a while. It just showed me life exists after we pass. That's all. Don't need to prove it to anyone.
I agree with most of what you say. Especially the irrelevance of religion in context of an afterlife. Religion is a man-made controlsystem thought up by primitive men in power with the sole purpose of remaining in power, using doctrine, persecution, violence, genocide and fear for eternal punishment to attain that goal, to me this is clear as day.
I don't (fully*) agree with your statement that Atheism was created by religion... atheism is not a 'thing' as in... a movement or belief... but rather a state of mind... in essence it is the simple mindset of not believing any supernatural claims on the sole basis of faith, without there being empirical evidence to support said claims.
*But atheism requires theism so in that regard I can more easily stand behind your claim...
Some other things however are up for debate. Now 1'st of all I can't know what your experience as a young lad was but was it a near death experience?
Because what you say about that is coherent to what others say when they recount their own nde.
Although I'd argue (full disclosure, I never had an nde) that you can merely say that the conscience survives at least for a while... until you get revived that is... That has indeed been experienced and reported by others that were clinically dead for a short while but got resuscitated before they were brain-dead.
This could point to the fact that as long as there is brain activity, there is a possibility for our concience to survive...
But it is still not possible to say for certain that it survives indefinitely, because what happens to that concience when inevitably brain activity stops? Does it go on surviving as a metaspiritual entity that is now free of body and mind, or does it simply disappear after the last synapses have fired?
Sadly the only way to know for sure is to... Well... Not come back.
Personally I think the most honest explanation we have is (and I think it was S. Hawking that said this) that we (including our concience) return to a state of 'non-existence', at least we know for sure that we have all been there before, before we were conceived by our parents.
Although I admit that being able to visit every place in the universe, unhindered by time or distance, free of a physical body, does sound very pleasing...
I would like that to be the case but as an atheist I can't bring myself to just believe it.
I am sorry for my rant and I thank you for your respectful and honest comment on this subject. It is nice, for a change, to read non-judgemental yet critical comments on this subject.
@Dantemertens82
No need to apologize. Wasn't an NDE. Several things when I was 3, 18 and 21.
About Atheism. Some people become Ex-Christian by choice when they realize Christianity is BS. It seems their reaction is not believing in God or anything all together. If it wasn't for my experiences, I would be one hard core Atheist! I believe in NDE'S by the way. 100%. My experiences reinforce that narrative, Reincarnation as well.
Go Steven!
God was created by mankind not the other way around
Empirical Proof of God's Existence:
(1) 'True' entails a cognitive presence;
(2) We know the laws of the universe were true before they were discovered by corporeal life; therefore...
(3) Since we know the laws of the universe were also true before corporeal life existed, we therefore have identified the existence of a non-corporeal entity that knew the laws were true.
The proof that this pre-corporeal cognitive entity is God:
The cognitive entity necessarily always knew the laws of the universe were true, where, therefore, thinking about the laws' integrity is absent, thereby identifying the omniscient being called God that does not think, it knows.
The proof that there can be only one omniscient being:
The concept of two, or more, omniscient beings is an oxymoron, since omniscience requires exclusivity...only one can be all-knowing; it's an oxymoron to have two or more who are all-knowing.
@@brian78045 lol, presups.
Your Darth Dawkins script don't fly cupcake.
I can presuppose Pink Unicorn Rainbow Sprinkle is the uncaused cause, the prime mover, the creator of ALL. He is outside time and space responsible for time and space. Trust me bro. Mah buuk sez so. Gotta have faith 🤣🤣🤣
@@SurgiusMaximus says, "Your Darth Dawkins script don't fly cupcake."
How dare you refer to me in such a manner, proving we have a Satanist on the thread, shocked by my two discoveries.
@@brian78045 lol, your discovery is a thought experiment.
Philosophy can't manifest a god into existence 🤣🤣🤣
@@SurgiusMaximus says, "our discovery is a thought experiment."
The laws of the universe aren't thoughts, they're objective reality, hence the title...Empirical Proof of God's Existence.
Very well said sir
ARRGH! Will you UA-camrs stop putting in hard coded subtitles that do not read what the person is saying. You got the second word wrong right at the start. Get a human to check before posting. But i guess You are grabbing already badly made clips to make this. I just wish that someone would do this properly. It is so important to present coherent discourse without errors.
Getting subtitles checked would cost YT money. They don't care about accuracy - only more money.
I'm with Stephen and the tea pot. xxx
This video of the Stephen Fry debate doesn't impress me in the slightest... Boring and predictable from Fry.