Vinnie P. When you truly know Jesus you can’t be open minded to sin. “Choose this day whom you will serve”. There are no exceptions to sin in God’s eyes
@@iamzay4938 @GloryBeToGodForever Love both your arguments and replies. Good Work!!! @Vinnie P. Hope God helps you with your questions. These people are speaking truth.
Vinnie P. What? Who said anything about hate? You literally just brought hate into it yourself, there is a difference between hating and not supporting something, I’m not saying there are Christians out there who don’t hate, they are wrong to hate anybody, but a true Christian doesn’t hate, they simply don’t follow or support something that goes against scripture. No one said anything about hate buddy
Jesus was a child born out of wedlock if we want to take the Jewish Scripitual Text, in the Kingdom of Judea, your wife and husband were chosen for you by the Jewish Parishes, not God, who are you to say, who can't be with who. Jesus was born out of free love, not forced love. Maybe Gay people are meant to be together. God works in mysterious ways.
@@Mavors1099 your original reply seemed genuine, but upon reading your second, you’re clearly only here to assert your self deluded “moral” superiority. You mention Jesus as if you know him and his word, yet discount the nature of sin and it’s intertwined relationship with thought and action. I’d be happy to discuss with you the synergy of he two as long as it’s civil.
@@petermatthiesen8288 she has words of "Existencialism" it's their moral code.. But she is asking a topic for Christianity. "Trust in me with all your heart and don't rely on your own understanding" that scripture would answer her question.
@@leibniz4455 so dont question your god whatsoever? Sounds like blind faith... Adding onto that that quote from the bible I'm guessing is what all Christian's should do yea? Dont think about what may be wrong in the bible but just to do it? Dont question the word even though it may go against what you think? Because your opinion doesnt matter only your gods opinion matters? Holy moly your god is a jealous son of a bitch huh...
@@chipschips1068 That is an answer dependent on lifestyle. The moment I argue with you, I violate existencialism either and vice-versa. So let me make this open.. "it would have been different if you allowed the word of God to change you" what I mean by that is that God seemed to have made natural law, and not interfere with it. But man seemed to follow temptation.. And different mindsets come from there. Therefore it's just mindset. What you see is what you see.. You may question the Bible.. Believe me, I do too and I find answers obvious just look at the question and it's factors. It's a matter of question and answer at my end. Your lifestyle may be different.
@T’Challa He's a bigot because he considers people who are born different to be immoral. He claims that it is moral for himself to marry the person he loves, but immoral for a person who is born gay to marry the person they love. That is not respectful disagreement, it's bigotry.
The sin in Question here *is* Love. These people won't be satisfied with a non-sexual gay relationship, they want to tear them all apart. Under the guise of "God's will"
@@Grokford People can shake their head, people can roll their eyes, as one street preacher says ... but God is gonna judge the wicked. Better to repent now, while there is still a breath, turn from all sin and get a new heart from Jesus, than to be cast into the Lake of Fire forever and ever. 🔥
I have strong feelings every time a pretty woman flirts with me. It happened today, in fact. But I promised my wife I would be faithful. We’ve been married 34 years. So far, so good.
U gotta lower your gaze brother that’s the only way to not be trapped by their beauty... avert your eyes so that way u won’t have anything to compare your wife to
@@blakeemel3819 In addition to resisting flirtation, I have resisted a number of overt advances over the last 34 years. The Lord has provided the strength and the will to do so. Nothing and no one else.
@@Mike__G praise be to god I’m Muslim btw and I think that’s why we are instructed to grow beards because it will repel other females away 😂😂 unless it does the exact opposite I’m happy you have a great marriage man I hope to be as blessed some day god willing
@@blakeemel3819 Thank you for your kind words. One clarification, though, this marriage has been exceptionally difficult. We have faced a great number if difficulties from the death of a child to significant compatibility issues. On the day we were married, our pastor included in his message to us that we could avail ourselves of the same power to keep our marriage together that God used in raising Christ from the dead. He was right. We needed it.
@@nomrs5942 if you don't follow him, he is not going to torture you instead your past going to torture you.if you follow him you will achieve what he said otherwise go to hell.
Mrs Jacobs God does not do the torture bud, hell is a place where God is not present, hell is a place without God’s existence, God didnt create hell, he simply took his spirit and holiness away from a place and without God in that place it becomes hell, if you don’t want God in your life then hell is a life without God that is why you have freedom of choice, either follow God and go to a place that we were meant to live in, or go to a place where he doesn’t exist, which is hell, he doesn’t make that decision for you and that is simply your free choice, if you want to keep your life this way then go ahead and your eternity will be a place where God is not there, or you can simply follow God and create a divine and loving relationship with him and he will give you everlasting life. It’s your choice and I think the choice is pretty easy, your stubbornness is what’s stopping you and wanting to be right. God is the way in this reality and I’d rather love and fear the creator and do what he wants me to do to have a beautiful life for eternity then to go some place where he does not exist. It’s simple
Yes you do have a freedom of choice LOL McDonald’s is bad for you and vegetables are good for you, the fact that there is a bad option and a good option means you have choice lol, and I just explained how hell became a thing, read it again, also there are demons, have you even done any research at all before commenting on something you barely know about? Demons torture you in hell, they hate God and God made us in his image, therefore they hate us aswell, we are made in his image. So humans that chose a life without God go to a place where God is not present. This is simple logical bad and good. Go do some research on biblical hell and biblical heaven please. You know what is good and you know what is wrong deep in your heart, it didn’t come out of know where. Humans naturally know what is good and bad. Like I said God DIDNT necessarily create a hell, he just took himself away from a place and without God comes pure evil, just like without light in a room comes darkness. This is basic logic
@Aallison K I hated "Christians", I hated religion, I hated Jesus, I was burned by many and I watched many raised with "Christianity". I believed it was all false a make believe, but when I stopped, asked questions, when I read, when I listened, when I took my eyes off the people who miss lead and put my eyes on Christ Jesus I realized who/what a Christ-ian is. Now I am not ashamed of the Gospel. People will always disappoint, we live in a fallen world, people will always make mistakes we hurt even the ones we love. We are all broken and flawed. We miss the mark It's not a religion it is a relationship. Not everyone who claims to be a Christian will be Christian sad, but true.
@@akoskormendi9711 Exactly. Hence why "The Truth" matters. Two atheists can two different viewpoints on sex and murder but only one can be correct. Hence why you can't have an OFFICIAL full moral standard without someone above authority setting it.
As a woman, I find other women very beautiful and sometimes it's hard for me to talk to someone because I have such a huge crush. Nevertheless, I love Jesus and am thankful for what He has done for me, saving me from sin. It's a choice for me not to go there. I dont know how other queers feel and I cant speak for other queers. But for most of my life I've generally been very good at avoiding things like a romantic relationship with a woman and other temptations. I still feel attracted on the inside but I just choose not to go towards that feeling. Probably because of Holy Spirit empowering me. And if I have any woman at church that I have a crush on, I avoid them and stick to the female sisters in Christ I dont have crushes on. Despite how specific I got about my inner gay, my life in Christ is not based off of avoiding that. It's really about walking with Christ and having joy and choosing joy because I live in His love. Im very blessed to have rarely gotten my way in life and I think that has humbled me. I think alot of Christians can relate to life not going the way we want it to go. I didnt go to med school. I didnt get the job I wanted. I didnt have the perfect family life I wanted. But I choose to see the blessings and I choose to keep going forward with God. To cry to God and to take naps and read His word. I choose to be thankful for what I have and know that God sees more than I do. I want to spend my life with God and hope that as time passes, I will become unmoving and rejoice even when I am persecuted and even pray for those who persecute me. I want to be like Jesus and feed His sheep. ❤ Blessings to you all. edit: guys I know that might have sounded depressing to you who don't accept Christ as your savior, but you should know that I speak the truth. If you genuinely want to know the truth, pray genuinely and ask God to open your eyes to Him and He will.
May God bless you my sister! You truly are a daughter of the LORD our God! 🙂🙂🙂 Our Lord Jesus was in ALL points tempted like as we are yet without sin 🙂 Jesus said His family are those who do the will of His Father in Heaven. 🙂 1 Corinthians 10:13 13. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. 14. Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry. James 1:12-16 12. Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. 13. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14. But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16. Do not err, my beloved brethren. With God's help we overcome all...
He was very compassionate, understanding, and even tactful, all while abiding to the Word of God versus his personal opinion. I learned something from this video. Thank you.
It is a common misconception that Christ said don’t be angry, but that isn’t true. The actual verse actual states: Mathew 5:22 “But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” But the Bible does say “Be angry but do not sin. Do not let the sun go down on your anger. Ephesians 4:26 God gets angry He understands that it is entirely impossible to not get angry what He does want us to do is to not let anger cause us to say or do bad things.
@@honestfriend767 those are not exactly verses in agreement with each other. You leave out the part in Mathew 5:21 that gives the context. It is saying that murder is what you think gets judged but it is actually the anger you hold that gets judged. In 5:22 he says that you are getting judged for the anger as if you had murdered, because you hold murder in your heart. The verse you quote with Paul, is not an equal type of anger, and cannot be reference when looking at what Jesus said in mathew. Look at all the other verses in Mathew to understand he is saying to be angry is a type of sin, he is equating anger to murder. Just like he equates list to adultery right after this in Mathew 2:27-28.
Dethbecomethii we are interpreting that verse completely differently “it is saying murder is what you think gets judged but it is actually the anger you hold that gets judged” I don’t think the verse is saying that It is saying that even if you don’t murder the person just getting angry at them equates to murder just like just being lustful even if you don’t commit adultery, lust equates to the adultery.
@@honestfriend767 The sin is not in the anger, or even the lust, really. Sin is any deviance from the will of God. Jesus sums up the entirety of the law by saying first love God and second love your neighbour as yourself. Jesus is pointing out that acting in any manner to anyone that is not in perfect love is an inherently sinful action. Having lustful thoughts necessarily means that you are looking at another person, created in the image of God, as an object. Having anger in your heart and either feeling superior or not wanting what is Holy and best for them is inherently looking upon another person as lesser or unworthy. It is an impossible standard, we are fully incapable of living up to it. Many would say that the greatest love a person can have is the love between parent and child- as it is the closest to an unconditional love as we are capable of. Yet even that is insufficient because our complex psychologies will twist even that with some selfish motivations (let alone parents who willfully harm their children). Jesus raises the standard to this impossible difficulty so that no one can boast- so that we will all recognize that we need Him and that we are not "pretty good, close enough, better than that guy"
Geoff Rust I don’t think it is impossible, I think it is hard to stay consistent with it, meaning there are times where you will fall and stumble. The difference with us and Christ is that He never stumbled, but we are going to and we are going to be forgiven once we do. It says in the Bible “No temptation has taken you except what is common to man. God is faithful, and He will not permit you to be tempted above what you can endure, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it.” 1 Corinthians 10:13 - no lustful temptation, or the temptation to hurt or be angry is too much or too impossible. Lust is simply not looking at someone and thinking in your head something sexual about them, it isn’t hard to not do this.
@demigodzilla could you explain how this man is a coward by answering this young lady's questions? Passive aggressive, sure. He's human. Many people have different personalities. Hell, I would say I'M passive aggressive. But coward? *Very confused as to how you came to that conclusion.* He seems to be speaking truths rather than delve into bigotry. Could you perhaps enlighten me with your perspective on this? I would honestly like to know what you're thinking by saying something like that.
I understand your perspective, although I didn't see him promote anything homophobic in this video clip. In all honesty though, she could have worded her questions a little nicer and with sincerity, as opposed to somewhat defensive. It is noted through the tone of her voice. But I did notice how he replied to her with respect for her question, and that's a very good thing. He could have easily said, as so many Christians say, "what? You're gay? You're going to hell!" Instead, he answers without judgment or blame. He's right with respect to Free Will. Do whatever you want. I say, do what gives you positive results not negative consequences.
@demigodzilla First of all, water is not wet. It makes things wet. Second of all he displays a respectful Biblical approach towards her question, which is what she asked him to do. His point is this is what the Bible says, we all have our struggles, we all fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23) and that just because something is natural doesn't mean that it's right. Being a pathological liar, for example, has also been deemed as having a strong genetic link, yet our society generally condemns such behavior.
@demigodzilla Who's condemning her essential sexuality as sin? If someone were, why would you call it homophobic? Do you believe people have different definitions of what sin is? If you had stated it so explicitly, clarification would be unnecessary as to what you were originally referring to, but that isn't the case. I'm still unsure why you call his responses "cowardly". He deflected, but I don't see it being cowardly. Again with the homophobia and homophobic usage. No sarcasm needed, but I see your point about her being defensive when many Christians do not follow one of Jesus' most important teachings to be *accepting* of others, no matter what shape or form they are in. Messed right up or close to perfect, be accepting of others! I agree that at times he is taking a careful but not so good approach with some things. I am confused with him bringing up struggles. I agree with her about love. Any one human, straight or gay, can love another human just as much as anyone can love another. Redundant, but that's what I believe. Love isn't restricted by orientation. She can do what she wants because of free will. I personally think it's gross to see a man kiss another man, but if they love each other, whatever man. lol I'm happy for them. He didn't have to go into certain explanations and references. He could have worded some things in a different way to better help answer her questions. I can see how self-hood and identity relate, but how is her sexual orientation central to her biology? I have no idea what you are speaking of when referring to "vicious scum bags from Westboro Baptist Church". I never heard of that church before, so I wouldn't know anyone who attends there. But what does that random thing have to do with this specific video? Of course people with developmental disabilities have free will! They are human, and everyone born as a human has free will! And of course lesbians have free will too! Why wouldn't they? What do you mean exactly when you say "who don't even have to try in order to be straight"?
I have an addiction to sugar. Like a legit addiction. I'm a junk food junkie. And even though I love sugar, it's not good for me. God didnt make me love sugar. I indulge in what I like. Consider your flesh.
Goran Milić Because it’s solely based upon heathen desires and no one can explain why it is good; it’s simply “i like the same gender.” Yeah why? Because it feels good? Yeah so does eating sugar and as said neither is good for you.
Goran Milić I don’t like assuming much of anything about anybody. I’m one to give any given person the benefit of the doubt. Also, it was your explanation that made say “what?”. Your explanation was strange.
"It's not the feelings that fail but the actions that flow from them" I would of wished I hear this when I was 11 years old!!!!! God is good! We serve a might God, hail king JESUS🙏🏼🙌🏼💝
compassion? Christian's treatment of gay people lacks all compassion and empathy. the amount of understanding in these comments shows Christians lack compassion toward gay people.
Thanks exactly sir....note my comment about Noah's ark and this nut. Anyone who believes Noah's ark literally does not know why inbreeding, (when you have only one pair of a species) It does network. God made these rules about species, etc. He invented science. When Christ said "love on another," that is what he meant. Very simple. I can think Noah's ark is an allegory but still believe the most important commandment: love one another.
"I want to believe in God, but I want to change God's standards instead to suit my lifestyle. Basically I want to play God". Can't have both ways people. Either reject, or be born again. You can't stay in the middle and contradict yourself
We are not talking about God's standards here. And the fact that you think morality is an objective thing that comes from God shows your ignorance. Having a moral standard doesn't mean every choice in life can be objectively defined though that standard. If someone forces you to chose between saving your lover's life or someone else, what is the objective moral thing to do? It doesn't exist.
The question isn't about whether a person can "change God's standards", it is whether any of you are correct about what God's standards are. If you all are imperfect, you could be wrong in your interpretation.
It would be less of a struggle if Christians stopped telling her she is broken, pretending to be something that you all claim she isn't. It's pathetic. Every suicide by a child in the LGBTQ+ community is blood on your hands.
@Paul Morgan where in the Bible does it say that a wealthy man, who proclaims Jesus as his savior, cant get into heaven? Now i dont know the hearts of these men, but if the believe in Jesus and profess they do then that is wbat they are judged on. Not how much or how little they have.
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@Tala Habern You are so obsessed with hating christianity you have made it your duty to comment hundreds of times on this video. Who is the tolerant one here? You are a judgemental hypocrite.
I didn't watch the clip, but rather just the clip title. I've been asked a similar question as this multiple times. Bottom Line: God didn't make sin. He made a law and Adam and Eve. The breath of life that was placed in Adam and Eve has passed on to us all, and unfortunately so did the sinful nature of Adam. Hiding behind a "Why did God make me this way, then???" is nothing more than a justification to disobey God's law, pure and simple.
He's avoiding the questions Why is Love wrong? How is it different? Who says what is "natural law"? The fact that he avoids most of these questions is the evidence of the duplicitous nature of these supposed apologists.
@@Grokford I saw nowhere where he avoided those questions, they're not even difficult questions. 1) "Why is love wrong?" - It isn't wrong, what is wrong is a twisted version of love that is not God's idea of love, that being a romantic love between a man & a woman. 2) "How is it different?" - Homosexuality is different because it is not how God ordained us to be, it is a sinful behaviour. 3) "Who says what is natural law?" - God does, because He created the natural law.
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn 1) Saying that Love isn’t wrong it’s just twisted is a semantic trick. It still resting on the premise that this Love(Queer Love) is for some reason particularly bad. Saying that something is bad because it’s twisted is just the same claim twice, it’s circular. I don’t recall off-hand if he even tried to explain his complementarian gender lens in the video, but even so neither God nor scripture ever claims that romantic Love is only heterosexual but r that it is meant that way. That is a claim, treating it as a given fact is just avoiding the question that such a claim implies. 2) Same as the first, presuming the divine intent of romance or sexuality is just making a claim without evidence. 3) God may make natural law but who’s to say what that is⸮ The answer is obvious, whoever is making the claims is saying it; defining terms to fit the argument. Once again this is just presuming the answer. It’s circular it’s logically inconsistent. The real problem at the base of all these problems is a lack of self awareness about one’s own role in the interpretative process. Our interpretations of God’s will are not the same thing as God’s will, and wel only have interpretations, which is to say, personal opinions. Arguing from a base of personal opinions isn’t reasonable and avoiding saying that’s what your doing is.. skeevy, even if it’s unintentional.
@@Grokford Thank you for the polite rebuke, I appreciate it :) 1. It would be circular if I failed to define the types of love, but here they are: There is a clear distinction between between the two types of love we are discussing: The love homosexuals claim & the love of God, the differences are apparent, just like how a Toyota & Honda are two types of the same concept. - God’s love is objective, LGBT love is not, merely a feeling, - God’s love is genuine & was created by Him, LGBT love is entirely delivered from a sinful nature which is offensive, No semantic tricks involved & especially no circular logic, that’s an absurd claim with insufficient evidence. The scripture implicitly states that the union is between as husband & wife; a man & a woman, and explicitly denounces anything besides that, namely homosexual love, as a sin (Leviticus 18:22 - an “abomination”). A basic reading of scripture paints this very clear, why else would the LGBT denounce the Bible? It contradicts their entire worldview. Therefore, the only true love can come from the one who created it; God, and that love is not LGBT’s twisted idea of love. 2. Demanding evidence for this claim is strange; it’s a well known element of scripture, perhaps you should read it yourself to think critically: - “For this cause God gave them up to vile affections, for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the women, burned in their lust toward another, men working with men that which is unseemly…” - Romans 1:26-27. - [ ] Here, the apostle Paul is talking about God‘s anger at sinful humanity & clearly indicates homosexuality with the term “lust toward another” - Lust; the strong sexual desire toward another, thus it seems to be a sharp declaration of these acts - Homosexuality of both sexes, a sin. This carries on from the Old Testament Law in which it was explicitly clear that men lying with other men (Being sexual or romantic) is a “abomination”. Concluding: If this doesn’t show you that scripture implicitly states the LGBT lifestyle as an abomination to God, perhaps that’s a problem with your standard of proof than the evidence from scripture. 3. What is the natural law? It’s the law we humans are to abide by whilst on earth, it’s called the “natural” law - Devoid of supernatural elements. God made the law, and as He is the eternal creator of the universe, there would be no one better to make it than Him. Who else would we have make it? Joe Biden? This answer cannot be logically inconsistent because the premises are very clear. That is the second time you’ve claimed circular logic & not shown me exactly what is circular without evidence; it assumes the answer is the same or similar to the premises, which is fallacious thinking: - Premise 1: There is a natural law, - Premise 2: God, being the creator of all, also creates the natural law, - Premise 3: God is perfect, can be trusted & the best to follow for guidance, - Premise 4: Therefore, it is wise to trust how God has laid out the natural law to us. Now, I agree that there are faulty interpretations; plenty of people get God’s word completely wrong for their own benefit, like abortion activists. That said, scripture isn’t as deadpan as is implied; certainly verses can be interpreted, but the core doctrine & messages on human sexuality are not. As such, no respected Biblical scholar will tell you that the Bible does not regard the homosexual lifestyle as sin, crystal clear that is. Concluding thoughts: What have we learned? There are two types of love - People’s idea of love & God‘s objective love, and it is wiser to trust in God than in man. Also, scripture implicitly condemns homosexuality as sin & denying such would qualify as a delusion; a belief held despite strong contradictory evidence. The interpretation of humans doesn’t apply to human sexuality in the Bible; it is very clear that romantic love is between a man & a woman, and people must either accept God’s stance or not.
People use the "love" word too easily nowadays, I think a lot of people actually mistake lust with love and their inability to accept that is what causes them to not move forward on a spiritual level.
@@Strive1324L That'd actually be a pretty good way to differentiate the two. That definitely doesn't apply to homosexuals any more than heterosexuals however. But lust is definitionally just extreme sexual attraction.
Steven Hamilton first of all, there is no truth coming out of Tureks mouth. Second, the only thing he is doing is making someone feel bad for the way that “ god made her” This superstitious nonsense will eventually get flushed out of our society, once more and more people are educated about science AND about the reason behind religion
@@cyberdaemon How do you know that we all know what is right or wrong inherently? Is your knowledge of what is right or wrong perfect? Was it all in you before you were raised by your family and community? How do you know that?
@@UnconventionalReasoning Im asking same "what is right inherently" questions. I never claimed i know the answer. Because even terrorists are "certain" they "got it right" due to their inner convictions. Anyone can say they "fight the good fight". The religion is just a fairy tale by my opinion.
Nameless Rose Turek handled this genuinely and professionally, he responded just fine to her loaded questions. Link me to what you are referring to with regard to his “getting pissed off when he’s losing”
@@namelessrose3859 that odd l've watched his tv series and watched multiple debates on internet ( Even with Christopher Hitchens) Frank hasn't been anything like what your saying, please show proof....
I admire this young woman's courage. She was born gay but commanded by god to be strait. What an unloving abusive god. How can any rational being accept that?
To love someone is a choice. It's not a feeling. You have to chose to love your spouse every day through your actions. Sometimes you don't have a loving feelings towards your spouse or don't want to do things for them, but when you start to do actions of love, then feelings will come up too. Heart isnt reliable that's why don't follow your heart but lead your heart.
I couldn’t love a man if i wanted to. I am not attracted to them, i do not feel any attraction towards them. Only towards women. If you could feel love/romantic attraction for the same gender (you, not me) then you aren’t straight
@connie feijen connie buddy, i read your reply to this... And you are saying... God of Bible, god of Bible... You know something... God of 5 religions... Catholicism, islam, Hinduism, Christianity and Judaism ..god of all these religions is one...... Jesus😱...yeah true ..! I don't understand why people say jesus is just god of bible... No friend, he is god of jews, hindus, gentiles... So that's a correction... I don't talk about the rest of your comment.. From middle east by the way... Good day/night(whtvr in u.s) 👍
@connie feijen COMPLETELY 100% FALSE. There have been countless, *countless* Christians delivered from the spirit of homosexuality, even ones who I knew personally. I'm telling you they went from being full on 100% gay to loving and being sexually attracted to the opposite gender. It's not always instant but God is real and can deliver anyone from the lies and confusion of the devil so long as you have faith and accept Jesus Christ as Lord.
@@joshportie cmon now.. What do Catholics believe in then?! Hm josh?!..see let me tell you something... Hinduism believes in 2 creators... Bramha(creator)....and para.bramha(para means other in Sanskrit) so this other creator is INVISIBLE... Spaceless time less being.. That no one knows but Himself😇... And he was the one that created this bramha jr. Ok?.. And verses about this invisible god are like thhis in Hinduism.... Some of them..... "oh lord of lords.. I praise you for coming to the World through a VIRGIN womb. "oh lord of lords praise for you will be born at the center of the earth. (middle east, Bethlehem ) "oh lord of lords.. I praise you for being born... Through HOLY SPIRIT" "oh lord of lords , praise you for being born in a most poorest way"(jesus had no house while he was born,it was outdoor somewhere ) "oh lord of lords i praise you for HANGING on 3 Nails" "Oh lord of lords, i praise you for taking 5 wounds" (2 nails on both hands 👐.. 1 on feet.. 1 spear stabbing near ribs.. 1 crown of thorns on fore head = 5wounds)...so ...on.. Btw these verses were being hidden.. Still hidden by many hindu priests and organizations ...worldy religions takes us to Savior. That's what i said... And you say Catholics don't worship same god . Who do they worship then.?! Josh! I wanna learn too🙏👍
Wow, what a great little robust and considerate exchange on a hugely emotional topic that 99/100 times usually degenerates into name calling and people being offended.
Salvador Ramirez Being gay is not a choice. Sorry to burst the little Christian homophobic bubble. I know a lot of gay people who wish they weren’t gay because it makes their lives so much more difficult. If they wish they weren’t gay then why would they have chosen to be gay in the first place?
@@charliecharlie7670 but do you think they were "born gay"?. It is a choice the more they believe they're "gay" the more their brain will tell them soon they'll start saying they're "gay". It's all really false and lies from their flesh
Faith in Him I’m sorry, but you wouldn’t understand unless you’re gay. I see your opinion and I respect that, but my beliefs are that you’re born gay and that that’s in god’s plan for you, because us gays have no control over are attraction, just like straights can’t be gay. It’s just not possible. So why would you think it’s more of what we think rather than how we feel?
@@attv2082 Just a comment on your 'Straights cant be gay'. Conversion happens all the time. From gay to straight and straight to gay (look it up please, its very interesting and i dont mean crazy anti gay camps). Thus birthing the idea of homosexuality as a result of choice OR in a lot of cases childhood trauma/childhood exposure to sexuality/mental health issues etc which you could argue you cant help unless you seek help. We all have freedom of choice. No one is born good or bad, we have both parts inside, just as we have both attraction to same sex and opposite sex as we are flesh after all. You choose to act on it. Most straights can definitely admit to thoughts of homosexuality and strong feelings and some homosexuals then turn straight after an encounter with the opposite sex that they find attractive. Its your action that determines what you are not your thoughts. And no one can perform an action without free will otherwise you are either brain washed or hypnotized haha you get where im coming from?
@@charliecharlie7670 I wish i didn't have sex with my ex but i did. I chose to, i knew it would lead nowhere but hurt yet i did it because i WANTED to and it felt good. Again it goes back to human nature and free will. If you do research on the topic you will find a lot of strong scientific arguments that free will governs our actions. Otherwise we would just be autonomous robots just DOING what we are born to do and being what we are born to be. What defines you are your actions guys. Please rethink your place in the world, you can DO so much more and BE so much more in terms of spirit. You have the choice and the power you just need to persist your wants. NEED over WANT. The hardest things in life are usually the best.
@@denbecr49 Great question. Because when you debate someone who stands on doctrine that goes against the way you want to live, the first thing you do is try to get them to approve of your behavior in some direct or general answer. Which if you listen carefully that is what she tried to do. Then, if they won't do that. You then set a trap to get them to say that you are wrong and going to hell unless you turn from your sin. If the trap is fallen for, the person is on record and that enrages a lot of other sinners in that lifestyle and marginalizes the speaker and gives ammo to the homosexual sinner. He avoided it but stuck to biblical principles.
denbecr49 The Bible already gives the guidance and insight she needs, so I don’t believe it’s about that. He needed to trod lightly there and did an excellent job
@@rucaslicks5183 Not at all. He responded several ways. 1) How do you know that God directed you to love women? 2) Having feelings is not wrong it's the actions that flow from the feelings. 3) I am not one to say anything, I am not God or the moral arbitrator of the universe." 4) What is love? I mean If you believe in scripture and the natural law." Etc....
Soaring On Eagles Wings how is what she asked a trap? She’s a lesbian who has no control over her feelings for other women and probably wondering why god hates her.. many homosexual people end up leaving religion because it’s very hard to reconcile your beliefs with your biological sexual orientation. After all, it’s must easier to change your religion than to change your sexual orientation.
The only answer this girl was looking for was; it’s ok to be a lesbian. Any other answer wouldn’t work in her mind. But like he said, we are all sinners. The only difference is, we as Christians try to make the right decisions/choices on a daily basis. If shes living in her situation everyday, you’re MOST LIKELY not trying. But in reality, most of us do the same thing no matter how wrong it is in Jesus’s mind. The only true person who knows your heart is the one who’ll judge us one day.
Can I just check something? This judge will be the one who is supposedly omniscient and omnipresent but decided to kill the vast majority of life animals and people ON THE PLANET in the flood, right? So I'm to be judged by a mass murderer. Doesn't that sound perverse?
IMO......this isn't why Christianity is the narrow road at all...….this seems like Q & A to me...…..you say we're not allowed to give into EVERY sinful whim => How many can we get by with and still be Ok ? Christianity as I know it is simply BELIEVING in JESUS (HIS perfect sacrifice, death, burial and resurrection). If WE have to do things perfectly (before or after believing in JESUS) then the ROAD is not just narrow => there's NO ONE ON IT AT ALL ! Thanks be to GOD for doing it for us. The really amazing thing for us to do (after coming to know CHRIST) is to WALK BY FAITH. It seems like a tightrope. With LEGALISM on one side...….and LICENTIOUSNESS on the other ! Narrow indeed.
@@13kimosabi13 Say what? The narrow road indeed exists, and it consists of us denying ourselves daily, picking up our cross, and following Jesus. That is the narrow road. It's not easy to reject sin at times, but with God, all things are possible.
You may still get into heaven living in sin..but you'll have a hell of a life on earth and you'll always reap what U sew. I'll pick the blessed life thanks
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 Sadly, you don't know WHAT AGE WE LIVE IN => OR EVEN HOW WE ARE TO LIVE. Please stop taking VERSES OF SCRIPTURE out of context => God can not sin, God can not lie, God can not be unjust......on and on => many things are NOT POSSIBLE FOR HIM. Additionally, not only is it NOT EASY for you to reject sin at times => THE TRUTH IS => YOU DON'T ! YOU SIN EVERY DAY. Wake up before it's too late.
When you live in the flesh, even while claiming to know God, you can look for reasons to justify sin. I’ve done it. Even knowing it contradicts Scripture I’ve struggled with things because I sought to justify my sins because it makes us feel better.
I agree. Me too. We all have desires that we shouldn't act on, and not just that, desires we shouldn't entertain. Don't even dwell on them. Rom 12:1-2 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. The commentary I read with this this morning suggests this proves to us that God's will and determination are perfect. i.e. Job 40:8. (Thanks for bringing that one up, Adela)
Well the truth of the whole matter is to fear 😱 God and Obey all His commands... 😉 😉 😁 😁 Most of feelings we have today are not true because they are created by what we've seen and heard and also experienced from the modern society, for example what's regarded as a modest appearance today would be regarded as sinful or bad a few decades ago
I appreciate how Sammy led this conversation. Almost all people that I've seen that were asking questions and part of the LGBTQ community werent really asking but accusing, and most often, screaming. Sammy was actually inquiring answers and listened to his explanations. That was nice to see!
I know what same-sex attraction is like... and through God's Word and Spirit, I ultimately learned how much is destroys our spiritual understanding of why God made them male and female (FOR each other).
In my experience I was only attracted to women because I was envious of them/wanted their qualities and wanted to be seen like them in the male gaze. Hence me using the male gaze to to sort of aid me in digging a deeper hole of lust and confusion and jealousy and wants, all concealed by lesbianism or bisexuality. For example ‘ouuu she’s so pretty and cool, I like her hips, I want her hips, I’m attracted to her hips’ But then Jesus knocked on my door and said ’uhhhhhhh no, stop that’
@@darkkitty22 I've always wanted to understand how people found others of the same sex attractive and this gives me a profound idea. Thanks for sharing and thank God for your deliverance.
Seriously I loved that he didn’t want to argue his way into making her agree. Just like Jesus taught, He didn’t beg people to believe but He spoke the truth and whoever had ears to hear received it. That’s speaking with authority that only comes with The Spirit.
Rhyddid Rose Louw Jesus is The Way The Truth and The Life. There is no questioning this only doubting and denying what already stands. To deny Jesus is to quite literally be denying the very foundation all life is based on. Sex in the context of marriage is for reproduction but also to have an intimate relationship with a spouse. As soon as it becomes about pleasure and lack of self control then you’ve lost The Way. We are to walk in righteousness desiring to love one another not just lust after each other which is to view someone as an object and less than as God sees them which is His precious son or daughter. We want to follow The Way which is in Love and selflessness just as our cells naturally do by the order of God. When cells become “selfish” what happens? They become too big as cancer cells and have to consume more nutrients which throws everything off balance. Not saying the cells have a choice but that we do and we can learn from our body how things aught to be based on how Jesus Christ has held it all together.
I personally struggled with sexuality. I used to identify as bisexual. As I came to know Christ and understand what Jesus was saying, my world view on everything, including sexuality, changed. I used to live by the idea that “It’s ok as long as it doesn’t hurt other people.” Boy was I wrong. When you go against what God has deemed good and right, you ARE hurting someone. You’re hurting God. We were never meant to decide what is good and what is evil. God does. The reason Adam and Eve were forced out of the garden was because they attempted to define good and evil for themselves. We ought to learn from their mistakes. In my case, God was extremely gracious as I was granted attraction to both sexes. So, when my time comes to choose a partner for life, I already know which one I will choose. I will choose the sex that my gracious God has chosen for me!
That really sounds like an abusive relationship. Imagine if someone told you not to do something arbitrary and that if you do it you're hurting them. In reality they are the ones hurting themselves by trying to impose their restrictions on other people, and in turn trying to make you feel guilty for what is ultimately their own actions.
@@itisntwhatyouknow if you read Job you will see that it was not God who caused his suffering but Satan, God let satan on that occasion to allow satan to prove a point… job remained faithful and proved satan a lier, so James 1:13 still stands pal 👍🏻
@@thefinancialmuppet5552 I don't get the attitude? God allows Satan to give us any and all types of hardship in our lives so we can exercise virtue and become saints...
“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9 Basically, you can't trust your own heart and feelings all the time. Let God change you because He will make you new and righteous in Jesus. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. Ezekiel 36:26
GraceAboundsAll 0707 in the Catholic Church we have Confession. So yes after one confesses his sins and receives absolution from the priest he is “sinless.” As Jesus said in John “Whose sins u forgive they are forgiven.” If Jesus says your sins are forgiven Do I have sin ? Or am I sinful ? Many saints like St. Joan of Arc went to confession daily. Pope John Paul ll went to confession every week. The question then is How long can I remain sinless? A week? A month ? An hour ? We Catholics believe in free will. We believe actual sin is an act of the will. We don’t believe we sin because we have a fallen nature. We do believe we sin when we choose to sin. We do believe sin has 3 parts and 2 effects. If I choose not to sin, then I’m sinless. I’m 58. Ive sinned countless times. I’ve also gone to confession over a 1000 times. Life is a struggle. But I do know that Jesus said “Be perfect as your father is perfect.” Jesus did say “Go and sin no more.” Maybe just maybe Jesus knows more than u ?
Him Bike In the Catholic Church you also practice hardcore idolatry and worship the pope and Mary, which violates scripture. And that's just one point of a great many. Catholicism violates scripture on so many points it's abhorrent. I hope you will leave the Catholic Church and quit asking priests for foregiveness. Only God can give that.
@@kimberlycarter369 Its not gonna end when you are expecting it. The bible declares that Jesus will come back when we all least expect it - As a thief in the night.
Just word salad for" Wah,Wah, Wah homosexuality is bad cuz this book says so. Don't question it and don't apply logic and critical thinking." That's why he makes me want to vomit. The bigotry and homophobia is unbelievable.
@@shanicesolomon9293 you completely missed my point. Various sects of Christianity have predicted the end times over and over again for 1900 years. It’s never happened, never will. Many authors of the passages in the Bible have even insisted that they where living in the end times. There have been 15 second comings, that I can remember, just in my few years on the planet. P.S. Savior The Savior has to be real, and he isn’t. Nothing to see here, move on with your life.
But who says love has to be sexual? I love my family and don't have sex with them. Sex is for reproduction, not just for love purposes. I love you, but just because you have a feeling, doesn’t mean is ok to pursue it because not all feelings are ok. Love is not just about sexual pleasure, is the combination and complementation of one's needs in the area that the other one is lacking, not in knowledge but in emotions that only each and every sex is born with, and the culmination of a life that only heterosexuality can biologically bring. Thanks to heterosexuality you and I exist, not otherwise. To be a transgender is pretending you are someone you are actually not, the only one harmed is yourself because instead of fixing objective reality you are trying to fix your subjective imagination that at the end of the day the problem is not been resolved. They want to be accepted for who they are and yet, they themselves did not accept who they were. Why not admit the reality and figure a way to be happy with it, instead of playing with imagination and not going anywhere? If you want to be accepted for who you wish you were born as; first you need to accept yourself for whom you actually born as. Don't pretend to be someone you are actually not because living a fictitious life will devoid you of living life at full with your opposite sex. May God bless you.
There are different types of love. Sex is generally for bonding with your partner nowadays, the time people try to reproduce with it is in the minority. No, feminine men and masculine women. They generally compliment each other, but general means there are exceptions. Not just heterosexuality, but thanks to our parents having sex at the exact time for us to be concieved. No, it's acting out how you feel you are. Your mental is more of you than your physical. Transgender people just want to work on matching up the 2. And physical is the lesser you. Oh look, a homophobic bigot thinking he knows how someone should live their life, what fulfills them and makes them happy. Hilarious
@@akoskormendi9711 What are the different types of love? And do you think that because something is popular, that it is okay? Hitler was a popular man. It is only thanks to heterosexual parents, which is the reason you're here. So then you can also say that it is of no thanks to homosexuals that you are born and exist today. You can't say both, because there is a true and a false and only one of those relationships is fruitful. If everyone acted on how they felt, it would be chaos. Maybe someone feels like sleeping with a married mn, or killing another person, or lying to others when asked if they have an STD. It's lawlessness. Or do you think it is okay to kill someone just because you're angry and you just feel like that's best for you? You are just as much mental as you are physical. Otherwise, there are no mental disorders. They would instead represent the real you. If you tell someone they are wrong, does that make you a hateful bigot? People always want to pursue what makes them happy, but happiness doesn't last forever. Lawlessness is similar. You can act on your feelings and that can make you happy, but your happiness expires. So then it does not fulfill you. The solution is to seek something eternal that doesn't depend on your circumstances, which is the joy of the Lord Jesus Christ. “The hope of the righteous brings joy, but the expectation of the wicked will perish." (Proverbs 10:28)
@@tiannad1378 god and jesus are the only one who bring only eternal happiness? so how about atheist or others that didn't mind them aren't they aren't going to have eternal happiness?
@@miguelmaturino2516 I think they're saying that this dude likes to tiptoe around questions instead of answering them up-front with a more direct answer.
@@GageMason He was trying to be careful...that woman would have burst into tears if he told her directly,he handled it well and at the end of the video im sure she understood his final sentiment
"It's not for me to say anything about love", "It's just my reading between the lines of my 2000 year old ancient religious text." The smartest thing Frank says to her is to remind her that this is a free country, so I hope this girl lives her life as she sees fit. I hope that she finds much happiness and I hope that it is far from this Christian psychological bullying.
@@besetfree5752 When it turns out that Vishnu is the real personal deity, he'll be upset that i picked someone else over him. Also, I am uninterested in submitting to authoritarianism. If I wanted that, I'd also go live in a totalitarian regime today. And I dislike Paul, and both the character, Jesus, and the religion, Christianity, seem to be his creation.
@@UnconventionalReasoning God loves us so much that He came to us in the flesh and also served as a sacrifice through the shedding of His blood for our sinful nature breaking the curse satan put on humanity. But we have to receive His free gift of salvation through repentance of our sin. When we reject God, we reject Love, the essence that He is. All I'm saying is when all else has failed give Him a chance, see if He is any different from the one you serve. You will come to find out He is the living God that hears and responds to your prayers like no other entity will. He will clothe you in the Peace, Love and Joy you have never known. If you ever feel like something is missing in your life in this broken world, I can testify that He IS the missing piece that will make you whole. God bless you. Shalom. ❤
@@besetfree5752 God loves us so much he makes us worship him. God loves us so much he made us flawed. God loves us so much he needed playthings like us. God loves us so much that we're supposed to think that salvation could have a price, but he made it free. All else has not failed, only he has failed. Failed to exist. I appreciate what you have found within yourself, even if you need to attribute it to an outside entity. Frank Turek's title is close, it should be, "I Don't Have Enough Strength to Be an Atheist". It requires both personal strength and the acceptance of societal contributions, while removing the deity's contributions.
Leon Camero Regardless of where he is , this is the way we as Christians should approach these questions. We should answer and not back away or step around what is being asked. But at the same time the answer should come from a place of respect, courtesy and compassion
What makes her different is a probate mindset she’s giving her self over to unnatural ways and feeling and God simply says that if you act upon these thoughts in anyway you’re a homosexual offender.
Dear Girl in this video, you and I have something in common, we both like girls. I don't blame you one bit, girls are so pretty and fun to look at. But just because we may see a pretty girl doesn't mean we must act on that. I see pretty girls everyday but I walk right by and do nothing. You don't have to do anything either. Here is something to remember: If you put your faith and feelings into other people, eventually they will let you down. No matter who they are or what they are to you. Your girlfriend could let you down, your boyfriend, your brother and even your mom and dad will someday let you down and disappoint you. But God is the only one who will never let you down or leave you. Don't look to people as a way to define who you are. You are a child of God, that is who you are. Build your foundation on God and that will always be strong, but if you build your foundation on a person, that could be taken away in the blink of an eye. Good luck young lady!
Love and Dating as defined by the current world is built on desire to act on sexual feelings (lust), mistaking it for true love. Its a thin line between love and lust, If you really love em you wouldnt risk to use each other as objects to gratify sexual plesures. Thats why Christianity urges us to reserve sex for marriage. The proper dating shouldnt involve sex or anything provoking sex, only then will you be truly loving to that person you claim to love.
@@peterharrison6495 "That's why Christianity urges us to reserve sex for marriage" and almost all Christians fail to do so. 'The proper dating shouldn't involve sex or anything provoking sex, only then will you be truly loving to that person you claim to love." what makes you the arbiter of dating and sex? how do you know you can't truly love someone if sex is involved? Do you not understand that some people marry just for sex? so your simple solution isn't exactly a solution. Also, why do you care what people are doing with their lives? Lust isn't always sexual and there is no either-or with lust and love, that's a false dichotomy, you can be married and still have lust, lust is a normal human emotion that is influenced by hormones like Estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone, testosterone being the strongest. this explains why sexual desires drastically increase in puberty especially in men/boys by the way lust is simply having sexual desires, whether you admit it or not you've had sexual desires before marriage. Lust and objectification are two separate things as well, one of thought, the other is an action and objectification isn't always sexual as well, for instance, some people only talk to their parents for money
Kyle Yes, Christians fail alot and no one is perfect only God is. But some of these things we ought to know as true Christians. As Jesus said, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:2) So yea..i think we Christians should ponder wether we atleast try to follow all of Gods will and not pick parts we like... And im not the arbiter of sex and dating, this is not my morality its from the Word of God. If you believe in God or not thats up to you, but what i was presenting is from the Word of God. If you want reference i can show you. I do care what people do with their lives because im loving enough to point out wrongs (in a loving manner) when i know they are going astray. And this is not what i think is wrong but what the Word of God says, the arbiter of morality. Let me be clear im talking about sexual lust here. We are all fallen creatures thats why we are so lustfull and we cant be saved without the perfect sacrifice of Jesus(im saying this irregardless if you are a believer or not). But, acting upon that lust is another sin altogether, thats more of your choice. Its true, hormone action is involved but we are rational humans and not unintelligent animals, not all emotions and feelings we ought to act upon. And sexual lust is one of them according to God's morality. Let people marry for sex, its their choice, but from my personal experience relationships based on sex rarely last, because in such relationships we objectify each other without knowing, mistaking it for love. And this to me just proves how God's morality is full of wisdom.
The fact she is even asking the question is telling that she knows what she is doing is wrong. I do things that are wrong every day but I know I need a savior.
@@pastorbri what do you mean by that. And by what standard are you making your claim. I’m not afraid of any person regardless of their sin. I think you have not given your argument much thought unfortunately
@@BossHossStudios homophobia is not a fear normally so most homophobics don't fear LGBT folk. A phobia can be an irrational hate, dislike or fear or all 3 even.....assume you need proof hate is a sin?
@@pastorbri God Hates Sin. It’s not my call it’s his. But the actual word “Homo Phobia” means to be afraid of. I tend to side with my creator on what HIS standard is. I am commanded to LOVE all people. But I do not have to agree with their life choices. That does not mean I hate them. That is irrational to assume that you hate a person simply because you don’t agree with them.
I am not gay or lesbian but if for a moment I put myself and try to live and feel as they do that is feel sexual attraction towards the same sex as I as a straight male do towards females,it is inconceivable to think that somehow that is a struggle they have to overcome that is the same as resisting the urge to steal or kill ,because they aren't natural desires,hunger ,pain or sexual desires are as natural as they come. Nobody can imitate or pretend gay,I just can't fathom how I would if not through some inherent quality of mine,sleep with the same sex add to that the ultimate consequence that the Bible prescribes.
Try and live and feel as if only same-sex relationships were allowed, and your attraction towards women was considered an abomination. Would you change your mind and marry a man? When did you decide that you had attraction for females and not men? Did you actually decide that, or did you at some point realize that is what you felt?
I really enjoy Frank's responses. He does not shame; he simply responds with what the Bible states, while simultaneously identifying compassionately with the struggles of others. As an INFP, I wrestle with when others start to feel uncomfortable. It is a big dilemma for me. But watching his videos helps me somewhat figure out how to address other's genuine questions in a grace-filled manner.
Because God doesn't hate lesbians or any other LGBTQ+. God, whatever "he" is, created you with love in his heart. Men wrote religious texts, and while intentions may have been good, men are imperfect and afraid. God loves you.
This matter is one of the most touching thing in Christianity. I mean, most Christians never tried to understand the issues of same sex attractions but just to shame people who have the issue. I can see in her voice she wants to believe in God but was struggling with this point. We need to have a compassionate heart to talk with these people. Most of them end up with depression and suicidal thoughts because of the feeling of getting rejected
Rejection is part of life. We have develop a thick skin and move forward in life. Yes rejection sucks but you can't let it destroy your life. You have to grow up and become a stronger person.
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 For sure yes, but people's default mental fortitude is different. It mostly depends on the environment you grew up. When you face a person with issue, you are not just facing their present self, but the long history that made them who they are now.
We all have personal struggles with sin. Feelings don't justify your actions. I may feel love toward my neighbor's wife, but that love doesn't excuse me to act on those feelings.
"Who can say what's right or wrong?" says the girl who doesn't want an answer. There is a simple, straightforward response... "God" God absolutely has the right to define right and wrong for us. He made us. He knows our purpose and what contributes to that purpose and what detracts. He has revealed His standards clearly in His word, built them into His creation, and written them on our hearts. "Who are you, O man, to answer back to God?"
“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” Proverbs 14:12 I love you all. Denouncing the spirit of iniquity in Jesus name. I was in the fooled generation. He who has ears let them hear, God loves us and wishes that none should perish. We are in the beginning of sorrows. I plead with you all to seek God’s word in this trying time. He will never forsake you.
It’s true man will lead himself according to what he feels, and not upon the truth. I sincerely believe this woman wants to have sex with another woman, but it’s not gonna lead her to the truth; it’ll lead to an organism and that’s it; really no better than mastbation.
It is a common misconception that Christ said don’t be angry, but that isn’t true. The actual verse actual states: Mathew 5:22 “But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” But the Bible does say “Be angry but do not sin. Do not let the sun go down on your anger. Ephesians 4:26 God gets angry He understands that it is entirely impossible to not get angry what He does want us to do is to not let anger cause us to say or do bad things.
@@thevulture5750 Praise the Lord for finding the Path. We all get lost until by his grace enables us to find the path. To him be all the glory and praise.
Yes they will find teachers who will itch their ears. That gives them a false sense of security or delusion that they are going to heaven. They know the truth but are lukewarm.
There are plenty of examples in my life where I’d like for another Christian to tell me that the sin I enjoy doing is okay but that’s not reality. We have to stand up and preach about all the sin the Bible actresses and not sugarcoat anything. That is true Love.
Ofcourse no adult human doesn't know the difference between love and sex, yet sex between people inlove binds them the more, this is why sex very quickly pops up in the discussion of love, it doesn't mean one doesn't know the difference
@@johanjansen3643 actually Johan, you are doing Love a major disservice if you claim that sex IS love. Absolutely, sex should always have love involved, although too many times it is not included even among husbands and wives, but Love is so much more. If someone were to say that sex is love, then they have cheapened Love to just a feeling.
Great conversation! I wanted to hear the rest. Frank, as always explains the matter spot on! He had compassion for the young lady and was threading carefully. I pray for her! In this day and age there is so much to be confused of... I truly hope, as young as she is and for what it seems also intelligent, all this clears up for her!
@Barry Midikiner Simple.. A big bang should have a big banger. Nothing in this world had made itself. A phone cannot create itself, some one outside of its existence creates it. And nothing has, ever. A universe cannot create itself, but if you still say it had, you believe in magic, which is wrong as per your world view.
When people make decisions on their feelings, all hell will break loose in their lives. Drug addiction starts that way, murder begins with a thought or a feeling etc etc.
@@Hylianamused As stated in the video we know by intuition what is right and wrong. The Bible is a tremendous tool for discernment but much of the Bible is properly understood when placed in context. Fellowship with Christian devotees and many pastors are very good at helping us to understand bible verses from context. You Tuber Dayz of Noah does a terrific job at putting verses in context along with Round Saturns Eye and The Scariest Movie Ever.
@@Hylianamused so i have this desire to own Dodge Charger that my friend has but i don't have the money yet but the desire is there, i really wish i could get it. It's totally okay to have that desire, i can work hard and one day have enough money to buy it BUT what if i lose my patience and instead resort to stealing. Does that mean stealing is okay since God put this feeling of desire and impatience in me so i must act on the feeling and since it feels so good it must be okay. NO! We get wrong impulses everyday, there's a reason why strength is not in Lifting heavy weights but in Controlling yourself. People do wrong things when they are angry and later regret acting that way. God created Men for Women and Women for Men. That's how it's always been and that's natural, that's how humans have procreated. Control yourself. Learn to ward off evil thoughts.
@@Hylianamused yeah by that logic everything exists in the world but not everything is good. There's evil and there's good. And we have free will. Animals kill their own babies so that means we should too? Nope.
Handled with the true bigotry and hate that religion brings. We are all sinful, but we will ignore most of the sins we all commit and single out homosexuals for hatred and condemnation. But then he will hide behind the book and say 'it's not my opinion', my book said so. Disgraceful
As a Neuropsychologist, I have studied human behaviors and had to look at real time brain activity. We have found in the last decade that all trans, bi, and gay brother and sisters are dealing with some type of baggage or trauma. Baggage is a negative emotion that hasn't been processed. It's stored even physically we are seeing negative emotions not processed or healed will be stored. (these negative baggages are anger, sadness, hurt, fear, shame, guilt, and anxiety). We are even seeing additions are all rooted in trauma or baggage. It has caused those effected by unprocessed negative emotions to wire their belief systems or subconscious. It's not created at birth. In fact another scientific study found after sutying DNA codes and human genetics, we see addictions can be inherited but not sexuality. That is learned and based on subconscious programing, which is learned.
When I hear the question “why did God make me this way” in regard to sexual orientation I ponder to think. God created man and woman, opposite genders attracted to each other. But God did not make just one gender, male or female, to be attracted to each other. What then happened...sin happened. Sin corrupted not only our natures, but, I believe, our emotions and intellects, and over time even our physical being. If my proposition is true, then it is sin that has corrupted the entirety of our being and that includes how we feel and respond to others at a sexual level. The ‘God made me’ argument is an attempt to blame God for our desires and choices. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed the Deceiver, and the Deceiver wanted to shift blame onto God. My friends, the universality of sin’s corruptive power is that it corrupts not only our nature but our emotions, and even our physical being. Sin corrupts even our attraction to one another. What feeling of love for each other was meant to be before sin has now become an excuse for same sex attraction, and hence God is blamed. But in Christ we can be restored, the sinner made whole, our attractions made what was originally meant to be, man to woman and woman to man.
Yeah I totally agree with this man I just think we live in a fallen world and that brokenness manifests itself differently for everyone and this is just one result of that falleness
I'm confused, given that every human stems from incest I'm not exactly sure how it's possible not to be in sin, as clearly it doesn't matter who you love it's wrong from source 🤷🏻♂️
Kevin Appleton it’s possible to be not in sin because, Jesus already paid the atonement of our sins. Yes, we will still sin naturally because that is our nature but the difference is is when we repent; confessing our sins and asking for forgiveness continually, we will be forgiven because Christ already died for us. That’s how great God’s mercy is, He has given us another chance to live and has given us the power to say no to sin.
@@kevindarkstar Please explain why you think we are all the products of incest. In my professional opinion, incest would not have been a sin until much, much later in human existence because it was not wrong in the beginning to marry your sister or cousin since the genes at that time would have been quite pure. It is much the same way when breeding animals. At the onset it is okay to breed brothers and sisters, but if that practice is continued, soon afterward the genes breakdown and what results are deleterious mutations. A few books of the Bible, particularly the early parts of the Torah, contain narratives of individuals who had engaged in sexual relations with near kin; while this could be misconstrued as incest, endogamy is the alternative interpretation. The Bible does not, for example, forbid cousins from marrying, but it does prohibit sexual relations with several other close relatives. And just as I mentioned, there are very good reasons for this. In ancient times, tribal nations preferred endogamous marriage - marriage to one's relatives; the ideal marriage was usually that to a cousin, and it was often forbidden for an eldest daughter to even marry outside the family. Marriage to a half-sister, for example, is considered incest by most nations today, but was common behaviour for Egyptian pharaohs; similarly, the Book of Genesis portrays Sarah as marrying Abraham, her half-brother, without criticising the close genetic relationship between them, and the Book of Samuel treats the marriage of a royal prince to his half-sister as unusual, rather than wicked. We also must be careful about assigning current definitions and practices to ancient times because the situations were quite different, and reasons for making later laws against such practices became more prudent and necessary. Lastly, there is quite a big difference between love and lust. When a man claims to love another man or a woman claims to love another woman, and then uses that false idea of love as an excuse to engage in homosexuality; it is not real love that is at the heart of the matter; but lust. If it were absolutely acceptable for homosexual relationships, God would not have created male and female in much of all living things.
whEw I could smell the defensiveness in this video.. unfortunately with people in that mindset, their goal isn't to gain newperspective, but instead to "win" the conversation.
@@Matthiasschweizer to be fair she was trying cut him off and he asserted that he was not finished by elevating his voice and continued to speak. After that she was able to express her POV.
@@Matthiasschweizer here's the thing. For some who believes in God and chooses to follow the teachings of Christ and adhere to the law of God then that's fine for them but someone who doesn't believe then why should they care one way or another about the law of God or even the existence of God? The case with this woman is maybe she is struggling with that issue bc like the guy in the video said about natural law. In your heart you know it's wrong but choose to ignore it. If she is battling that issue of being gay but feels that she totally believes in God and has a moral dilemma on what to do then she is hearing answers she doesn't want to hear bc it goes against what she wants and not what God wants.
One of our biggest issues here is that society has come to equate love with attraction and lust.
Yep, it's a big mess when you lump it all together.
Amen
Funny that Christians have no idea what lust means
Well said
That was loud 🔊 and clear 🙏
LGBTQ+: I was born this way.
*Jesus Christ:* Ye must be born again.
I kinda chuckled 🤭 That’s great never thought of it that way tho
Vinnie P. When you truly know Jesus you can’t be open minded to sin. “Choose this day whom you will serve”. There are no exceptions to sin in God’s eyes
@@iamzay4938 @GloryBeToGodForever
Love both your arguments and replies. Good Work!!!
@Vinnie P.
Hope God helps you with your questions. These people are speaking truth.
Vinnie P. What? Who said anything about hate? You literally just brought hate into it yourself, there is a difference between hating and not supporting something, I’m not saying there are Christians out there who don’t hate, they are wrong to hate anybody, but a true Christian doesn’t hate, they simply don’t follow or support something that goes against scripture. No one said anything about hate buddy
Jesus was a child born out of wedlock if we want to take the Jewish Scripitual Text, in the Kingdom of Judea, your wife and husband were chosen for you by the Jewish Parishes, not God, who are you to say, who can't be with who. Jesus was born out of free love, not forced love. Maybe Gay people are meant to be together. God works in mysterious ways.
I love how Frank answers questions and explain things in a non-judgmental and loving way.
but homophobia is judgemeant
Yup
@@saigie3908 lets hope more homophobics repent eh.
@@pastorbri so calling someone a rapist or calling someone toxic is also judgemental, so we musn't do that too then.
@@mathewsteven it is if u lump them with innocent LGBT folk.
“It’s not the feelings that are the issue, it’s the actions that flow from them.” Wise words to live by 🙏
But Jesus said that the feeling by itself is wrong.
@@Mavors1099 very true, lustful thoughts are just as sinful as the act itself. Nonetheless, the statement resonated with me 👍
@@Dalipoko
No really... Thoughts do not hurt anyone.
@@Mavors1099 your original reply seemed genuine, but upon reading your second, you’re clearly only here to assert your self deluded “moral” superiority.
You mention Jesus as if you know him and his word, yet discount the nature of sin and it’s intertwined relationship with thought and action.
I’d be happy to discuss with you the synergy of he two as long as it’s civil.
@@Dalipoko
My answer was legit and correct. I just don't agree with him on that specific point. I know Jesus as far as gospels allow us to know him.
World: "follow your heart"
God: "The heart is wicked above all things"
Nice profile pic😎
@@slft47 thank you :)
@@ezassegai4793 keep it up😎FTGKTA
Facts! Jeremiah 17:9
Lol
All she wants to hear is its ok for her to be a lesbian nothing else
Nope, she knows it is OK. She wants to blame him for saying its wrong.
@@petermatthiesen8288 she has words of "Existencialism" it's their moral code..
But she is asking a topic for Christianity. "Trust in me with all your heart and don't rely on your own understanding" that scripture would answer her question.
@@leibniz4455 so dont question your god whatsoever? Sounds like blind faith...
Adding onto that that quote from the bible I'm guessing is what all Christian's should do yea? Dont think about what may be wrong in the bible but just to do it? Dont question the word even though it may go against what you think? Because your opinion doesnt matter only your gods opinion matters? Holy moly your god is a jealous son of a bitch huh...
@@chipschips1068 That is an answer dependent on lifestyle.
The moment I argue with you, I violate existencialism either and vice-versa. So let me make this open.. "it would have been different if you allowed the word of God to change you" what I mean by that is that God seemed to have made natural law, and not interfere with it. But man seemed to follow temptation.. And different mindsets come from there. Therefore it's just mindset. What you see is what you see.. You may question the Bible.. Believe me, I do too and I find answers obvious just look at the question and it's factors. It's a matter of question and answer at my end. Your lifestyle may be different.
@@chipschips1068 "God is jealous"? It's voided as God already has many things to consider, and not only emotion.
No matter how angry people gets, this guy, @Frank, so calm to understand. Really admired his patience.
A sign of intellect, in my opinion
Yes he is very intelligent
Doesn't change the fact he's a bigot.
@T’Challa He's a bigot because he considers people who are born different to be immoral. He claims that it is moral for himself to marry the person he loves, but immoral for a person who is born gay to marry the person they love. That is not respectful disagreement, it's bigotry.
How is she expressing any anger?
*_"Love" doesn't lead another into sin._*
Yup
The sin in Question here *is* Love.
These people won't be satisfied with a non-sexual gay relationship, they want to tear them all apart.
Under the guise of "God's will"
@@Grokford People can shake their head, people can roll their eyes, as one street preacher says ... but God is gonna judge the wicked. Better to repent now, while there is still a breath, turn from all sin and get a new heart from Jesus, than to be cast into the Lake of Fire forever and ever. 🔥
@@TakingTurf
Love is not a sin to repent of, and even if it were I would not commit the heresy of denying the sufficiency of grace.
@@Grokfordno, love is not a sin. Homosexual intercourse is the sin.
I have strong feelings every time a pretty woman flirts with me. It happened today, in fact. But I promised my wife I would be faithful. We’ve been married 34 years. So far, so good.
I wish I have a beautiful attractive wife just like anime waifus 😔.
U gotta lower your gaze brother that’s the only way to not be trapped by their beauty... avert your eyes so that way u won’t have anything to compare your wife to
@@blakeemel3819 In addition to resisting flirtation, I have resisted a number of overt advances over the last 34 years. The Lord has provided the strength and the will to do so. Nothing and no one else.
@@Mike__G praise be to god I’m
Muslim btw and I think that’s why we are instructed to grow beards because it will repel other females away 😂😂 unless it does the exact opposite
I’m happy you have a great marriage man I hope to be as blessed some day god willing
@@blakeemel3819 Thank you for your kind words. One clarification, though, this marriage has been exceptionally difficult. We have faced a great number if difficulties from the death of a child to significant compatibility issues. On the day we were married, our pastor included in his message to us that we could avail ourselves of the same power to keep our marriage together that God used in raising Christ from the dead. He was right. We needed it.
I did not know about the depth of love until I became a Christian.
@@nomrs5942 if you don't follow him, he is not going to torture you instead your past going to torture you.if you follow him you will achieve what he said otherwise go to hell.
Mrs Jacobs God does not do the torture bud, hell is a place where God is not present, hell is a place without God’s existence, God didnt create hell, he simply took his spirit and holiness away from a place and without God in that place it becomes hell, if you don’t want God in your life then hell is a life without God that is why you have freedom of choice, either follow God and go to a place that we were meant to live in, or go to a place where he doesn’t exist, which is hell, he doesn’t make that decision for you and that is simply your free choice, if you want to keep your life this way then go ahead and your eternity will be a place where God is not there, or you can simply follow God and create a divine and loving relationship with him and he will give you everlasting life. It’s your choice and I think the choice is pretty easy, your stubbornness is what’s stopping you and wanting to be right. God is the way in this reality and I’d rather love and fear the creator and do what he wants me to do to have a beautiful life for eternity then to go some place where he does not exist. It’s simple
Yes you do have a freedom of choice LOL McDonald’s is bad for you and vegetables are good for you, the fact that there is a bad option and a good option means you have choice lol, and I just explained how hell became a thing, read it again, also there are demons, have you even done any research at all before commenting on something you barely know about? Demons torture you in hell, they hate God and God made us in his image, therefore they hate us aswell, we are made in his image. So humans that chose a life without God go to a place where God is not present. This is simple logical bad and good. Go do some research on biblical hell and biblical heaven please. You know what is good and you know what is wrong deep in your heart, it didn’t come out of know where. Humans naturally know what is good and bad. Like I said God DIDNT necessarily create a hell, he just took himself away from a place and without God comes pure evil, just like without light in a room comes darkness. This is basic logic
@Aallison K I hated "Christians", I hated religion, I hated Jesus, I was burned by many and I watched many raised with "Christianity". I believed it was all false a make believe, but when I stopped, asked questions, when I read, when I listened, when I took my eyes off the people who miss lead and put my eyes on Christ Jesus I realized who/what a Christ-ian is. Now I am not ashamed of the Gospel. People will always disappoint, we live in a fallen world, people will always make mistakes we hurt even the ones we love. We are all broken and flawed. We miss the mark It's not a religion it is a relationship. Not everyone who claims to be a Christian will be Christian sad, but true.
Mary W so u dont mind gays?
He nailed it when he said, "You don't need a Bible to know right or wrong, you already know it. It's written on our hearts, everybody knows it."
Most hearts consider discrimination and racism baseless hatred
Yet, despite it being written on our hearts, we regularly disagree what's right and wrong... huh
@@akoskormendi9711 Exactly. Hence why "The Truth" matters. Two atheists can two different viewpoints on sex and murder but only one can be correct. Hence why you can't have an OFFICIAL full moral standard without someone above authority setting it.
He's referencing st paul in Romans when he said that
He things it's right to hate members of the LGBTQ+ community. If that is written on his heart, he needs a new pen.
As a woman, I find other women very beautiful and sometimes it's hard for me to talk to someone because I have such a huge crush. Nevertheless, I love Jesus and am thankful for what He has done for me, saving me from sin. It's a choice for me not to go there. I dont know how other queers feel and I cant speak for other queers. But for most of my life I've generally been very good at avoiding things like a romantic relationship with a woman and other temptations. I still feel attracted on the inside but I just choose not to go towards that feeling. Probably because of Holy Spirit empowering me. And if I have any woman at church that I have a crush on, I avoid them and stick to the female sisters in Christ I dont have crushes on. Despite how specific I got about my inner gay, my life in Christ is not based off of avoiding that. It's really about walking with Christ and having joy and choosing joy because I live in His love. Im very blessed to have rarely gotten my way in life and I think that has humbled me. I think alot of Christians can relate to life not going the way we want it to go. I didnt go to med school. I didnt get the job I wanted. I didnt have the perfect family life I wanted. But I choose to see the blessings and I choose to keep going forward with God. To cry to God and to take naps and read His word. I choose to be thankful for what I have and know that God sees more than I do. I want to spend my life with God and hope that as time passes, I will become unmoving and rejoice even when I am persecuted and even pray for those who persecute me. I want to be like Jesus and feed His sheep. ❤ Blessings to you all.
edit: guys I know that might have sounded depressing to you who don't accept Christ as your savior, but you should know that I speak the truth. If you genuinely want to know the truth, pray genuinely and ask God to open your eyes to Him and He will.
Amen 🙏😇
@Zed Kenny no
Love is not a sin, it is a fruit o the spirit(Galatians 5:22-23).
Damn this is sad
May God bless you my sister! You truly are a daughter of the LORD our God! 🙂🙂🙂
Our Lord Jesus was in ALL points tempted like as we are yet without sin 🙂
Jesus said His family are those who do the will of His Father in Heaven. 🙂
1 Corinthians 10:13
13. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14. Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
James 1:12-16
12. Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
13. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14. But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16. Do not err, my beloved brethren.
With God's help we overcome all...
He was very compassionate, understanding, and even tactful, all while abiding to the Word of God versus his personal opinion. I learned something from this video. Thank you.
It is a common misconception that Christ said don’t be angry, but that isn’t true. The actual verse actual states: Mathew 5:22 “But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.”
But the Bible does say “Be angry but do not sin. Do not let the sun go down on your anger.
Ephesians 4:26
God gets angry He understands that it is entirely impossible to not get angry what He does want us to do is to not let anger cause us to say or do bad things.
@@honestfriend767 those are not exactly verses in agreement with each other. You leave out the part in Mathew 5:21 that gives the context. It is saying that murder is what you think gets judged but it is actually the anger you hold that gets judged. In 5:22 he says that you are getting judged for the anger as if you had murdered, because you hold murder in your heart. The verse you quote with Paul, is not an equal type of anger, and cannot be reference when looking at what Jesus said in mathew. Look at all the other verses in Mathew to understand he is saying to be angry is a type of sin, he is equating anger to murder. Just like he equates list to adultery right after this in Mathew 2:27-28.
Dethbecomethii we are interpreting that verse completely differently “it is saying murder is what you think gets judged but it is actually the anger you hold that gets judged” I don’t think the verse is saying that It is saying that even if you don’t murder the person just getting angry at them equates to murder just like just being lustful even if you don’t commit adultery, lust equates to the adultery.
@@honestfriend767 The sin is not in the anger, or even the lust, really. Sin is any deviance from the will of God. Jesus sums up the entirety of the law by saying first love God and second love your neighbour as yourself. Jesus is pointing out that acting in any manner to anyone that is not in perfect love is an inherently sinful action. Having lustful thoughts necessarily means that you are looking at another person, created in the image of God, as an object. Having anger in your heart and either feeling superior or not wanting what is Holy and best for them is inherently looking upon another person as lesser or unworthy. It is an impossible standard, we are fully incapable of living up to it.
Many would say that the greatest love a person can have is the love between parent and child- as it is the closest to an unconditional love as we are capable of. Yet even that is insufficient because our complex psychologies will twist even that with some selfish motivations (let alone parents who willfully harm their children). Jesus raises the standard to this impossible difficulty so that no one can boast- so that we will all recognize that we need Him and that we are not "pretty good, close enough, better than that guy"
Geoff Rust I don’t think it is impossible, I think it is hard to stay consistent with it, meaning there are times where you will fall and stumble. The difference with us and Christ is that He never stumbled, but we are going to and we are going to be forgiven once we do. It says in the Bible
“No temptation has taken you except what is common to man. God is faithful, and He will not permit you to be tempted above what you can endure, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it.”
1 Corinthians 10:13 - no lustful temptation, or the temptation to hurt or be angry is too much or too impossible. Lust is simply not looking at someone and thinking in your head something sexual about them, it isn’t hard to not do this.
She was trying so hard to lure him out, yet he handled it perfectly and with respect!
@demigodzilla could you explain how this man is a coward by answering this young lady's questions? Passive aggressive, sure. He's human. Many people have different personalities. Hell, I would say I'M passive aggressive. But coward? *Very confused as to how you came to that conclusion.* He seems to be speaking truths rather than delve into bigotry. Could you perhaps enlighten me with your perspective on this? I would honestly like to know what you're thinking by saying something like that.
@demigodzilla what makes you think he promotes homophobia? I don't follow him btw
I understand your perspective, although I didn't see him promote anything homophobic in this video clip. In all honesty though, she could have worded her questions a little nicer and with sincerity, as opposed to somewhat defensive. It is noted through the tone of her voice. But I did notice how he replied to her with respect for her question, and that's a very good thing. He could have easily said, as so many Christians say, "what? You're gay? You're going to hell!" Instead, he answers without judgment or blame. He's right with respect to Free Will. Do whatever you want. I say, do what gives you positive results not negative consequences.
@demigodzilla First of all, water is not wet. It makes things wet. Second of all he displays a respectful Biblical approach towards her question, which is what she asked him to do. His point is this is what the Bible says, we all have our struggles, we all fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23) and that just because something is natural doesn't mean that it's right. Being a pathological liar, for example, has also been deemed as having a strong genetic link, yet our society generally condemns such behavior.
@demigodzilla Who's condemning her essential sexuality as sin? If someone were, why would you call it homophobic? Do you believe people have different definitions of what sin is? If you had stated it so explicitly, clarification would be unnecessary as to what you were originally referring to, but that isn't the case. I'm still unsure why you call his responses "cowardly". He deflected, but I don't see it being cowardly. Again with the homophobia and homophobic usage. No sarcasm needed, but I see your point about her being defensive when many Christians do not follow one of Jesus' most important teachings to be *accepting* of others, no matter what shape or form they are in. Messed right up or close to perfect, be accepting of others! I agree that at times he is taking a careful but not so good approach with some things. I am confused with him bringing up struggles. I agree with her about love. Any one human, straight or gay, can love another human just as much as anyone can love another. Redundant, but that's what I believe. Love isn't restricted by orientation. She can do what she wants because of free will. I personally think it's gross to see a man kiss another man, but if they love each other, whatever man. lol I'm happy for them. He didn't have to go into certain explanations and references. He could have worded some things in a different way to better help answer her questions. I can see how self-hood and identity relate, but how is her sexual orientation central to her biology? I have no idea what you are speaking of when referring to "vicious scum bags from Westboro Baptist Church". I never heard of that church before, so I wouldn't know anyone who attends there. But what does that random thing have to do with this specific video? Of course people with developmental disabilities have free will! They are human, and everyone born as a human has free will! And of course lesbians have free will too! Why wouldn't they? What do you mean exactly when you say "who don't even have to try in order to be straight"?
Her real question should be “who is God to tell me what to do”. That’s what she’s really asking.
That’s what I heard too
@I'm always Banned that makes no sense
No God=No love
God is the one to take your life freely at any moment and resurrect your life at anytime he wants. Be not deceived brethren
which is also what homophobics tend to ask God more.
They say “Love is Love”, but what they mean is “Flesh is Flesh”.
So homosexual "love" is no real love.
@@sawfan7 yup, it’s not
real love is man and woman
Lgbtq+ love..is real love. Love isn't just man and woman.
@@ghettogrocerybag312 that’s not love, love is man and woman
@@joe-cm4lz Sorry, I disagree. Whether you like it or not...lgbtq+ people can and do very much love. It is real love. :)
I have an addiction to sugar. Like a legit addiction. I'm a junk food junkie. And even though I love sugar, it's not good for me. God didnt make me love sugar. I indulge in what I like. Consider your flesh.
Succinctly said
How is homosexuality bad for somebody in the way too much sugar is wrong?
@@goranmilic442 because it causes death through disease, straight sex causes new LIFE and should be cherished
@@angelrattpack is that why we have venereal disease std's just to name a few...
Goran Milić
Because it’s solely based upon heathen desires and no one can explain why it is good; it’s simply “i like the same gender.” Yeah why? Because it feels good? Yeah so does eating sugar and as said neither is good for you.
Disney: do what you feel is best
Me: nope, I’m trusting God on this one.
People here in comments say love and sex is not the same. I agree, but homosexuals can fall in love.
Goran Milić lol wut?
@@1ntothefray583 You don't think that girl from video is maybe in love with some girl? Explain, please.
Goran Milić I don’t like assuming much of anything about anybody. I’m one to give any given person the benefit of the doubt. Also, it was your explanation that made say “what?”. Your explanation was strange.
@@1ntothefray583 All I wrote homosexuals can fall in love. What's strange about that?
she has a point but even if you “feel” like you’re right, God’s word is what we should follow and obey.
First, show me that there is a god.
@@Hannibu everything you see is proof that there is a god.
@@kikigondwe2529 As a Christian, that's not really a good example if the goal is to convert an athiest
@@maxholloway8042 if you think what I’m saying is bad, you do it then.
@@kikigondwe2529 GOOD ANSWER!!!!!!!
"It's not the feelings that fail but the actions that flow from them" I would of wished I hear this when I was 11 years old!!!!! God is good! We serve a might God, hail king JESUS🙏🏼🙌🏼💝
Yes it's a complete shift to another topic to avoid the fact that Love is a moral good(Galatians 5:22-23)
You're not a drunkard if you have temptations to get drunk, you are a drunkard if you drink and get drunk same goes with any sin
Bible Thumper good analogy
@@mellow.traveller "HAPPY" is ok. Just dont be a perv.
@@mellow.traveller You must be talking to demons "gods". Cuz my God CAPITAL G, already has spoken. 1 Corinthians 6:9. :)
@@mellow.traveller You sound like a fool. Good day.
Nick Libitka lol wrong God
The soul is more important than winning the argument. Compassion.
compassion? Christian's treatment of gay people lacks all compassion and empathy.
the amount of understanding in these comments shows Christians lack compassion toward gay people.
What's a soul?
Thanks exactly sir....note my comment about Noah's ark and this nut. Anyone who believes Noah's ark literally does not know why inbreeding, (when you have only one pair of a species) It does network. God made these rules about species, etc. He invented science. When Christ said "love on another," that is what he meant. Very simple. I can think Noah's ark is an allegory but still believe the most important commandment: love one another.
@@firephantom115 I for one am sorry to anyone who felt mistreared..to often we forget to be Christ like..we all fall short
@@canuckereh9202 noun
1.
the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.
Simply self
"I want to believe in God, but I want to change God's standards instead to suit my lifestyle. Basically I want to play God". Can't have both ways people. Either reject, or be born again. You can't stay in the middle and contradict yourself
We are not talking about God's standards here. And the fact that you think morality is an objective thing that comes from God shows your ignorance. Having a moral standard doesn't mean every choice in life can be objectively defined though that standard. If someone forces you to chose between saving your lover's life or someone else, what is the objective moral thing to do? It doesn't exist.
Which god?
The question isn't about whether a person can "change God's standards", it is whether any of you are correct about what God's standards are. If you all are imperfect, you could be wrong in your interpretation.
@@konyvnyelv. The best question to make a Christian's head explode. They barely realize how presumptive they are. 🤣
I can see the sadness and confusion in this woman. I feel for her struggle.
it’s always heartbreaking whenever someone just essentially asks “what’s wrong with me?” . just devastating everytime
It would be less of a struggle if Christians stopped telling her she is broken, pretending to be something that you all claim she isn't. It's pathetic. Every suicide by a child in the LGBTQ+ community is blood on your hands.
In amazed at how he so lovingly teaches her without any condemnation. I have so much respect for him. Thanks
He´s a charlatan, a con-man. 100 years ago he would be sellin sneke oil and you would be buying it.
snake oil...sorry
@Paul Morgan where in the Bible does it say that a wealthy man, who proclaims Jesus as his savior, cant get into heaven? Now i dont know the hearts of these men, but if the believe in Jesus and profess they do then that is wbat they are judged on. Not how much or how little they have.
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@Tala Habern You are so obsessed with hating christianity you have made it your duty to comment hundreds of times on this video. Who is the tolerant one here? You are a judgemental hypocrite.
He was extremely respectful with out sacrificing his opinion. Well done sir.
Also without sacrificing the Scripture on the altar of her lust.
I didn't watch the clip, but rather just the clip title. I've been asked a similar question as this multiple times.
Bottom Line: God didn't make sin. He made a law and Adam and Eve. The breath of life that was placed in Adam and Eve has passed on to us all, and unfortunately so did the sinful nature of Adam. Hiding behind a "Why did God make me this way, then???" is nothing more than a justification to disobey God's law, pure and simple.
connie feijen I can say that god is not evil, my friend
Yeah.. He is👍😊
@Gemma Abrams, *Sacrificing Gods' opinion
Brilliant answer. Frank's apologetics were instrumental in my journey to faith.
I'm sorry you became a Christian. You are probably hiding something.
He's avoiding the questions
Why is Love wrong?
How is it different?
Who says what is "natural law"?
The fact that he avoids most of these questions is the evidence of the duplicitous nature of these supposed apologists.
@@Grokford I saw nowhere where he avoided those questions, they're not even difficult questions.
1) "Why is love wrong?" - It isn't wrong, what is wrong is a twisted version of love that is not God's idea of love, that being a romantic love between a man & a woman.
2) "How is it different?" - Homosexuality is different because it is not how God ordained us to be, it is a sinful behaviour.
3) "Who says what is natural law?" - God does, because He created the natural law.
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn
1) Saying that Love isn’t wrong it’s just twisted is a semantic trick. It still resting on the premise that this Love(Queer Love) is for some reason particularly bad. Saying that something is bad because it’s twisted is just the same claim twice, it’s circular.
I don’t recall off-hand if he even tried to explain his complementarian gender lens in the video, but even so neither God nor scripture ever claims that romantic Love is only heterosexual but r that it is meant that way. That is a claim, treating it as a given fact is just avoiding the question that such a claim implies.
2) Same as the first, presuming the divine intent of romance or sexuality is just making a claim without evidence.
3)
God may make natural law but who’s to say what that is⸮
The answer is obvious, whoever is making the claims is saying it; defining terms to fit the argument.
Once again this is just presuming the answer. It’s circular it’s logically inconsistent.
The real problem at the base of all these problems is a lack of self awareness about one’s own role in the interpretative process.
Our interpretations of God’s will are not the same thing as God’s will, and wel only have interpretations, which is to say, personal opinions.
Arguing from a base of personal opinions isn’t reasonable and avoiding saying that’s what your doing is.. skeevy, even if it’s unintentional.
@@Grokford Thank you for the polite rebuke, I appreciate it :)
1. It would be circular if I failed to define the types of love, but here they are: There is a clear distinction between between the two types of love we are discussing: The love homosexuals claim & the love of God, the differences are apparent, just like how a Toyota & Honda are two types of the same concept.
- God’s love is objective, LGBT love is not, merely a feeling,
- God’s love is genuine & was created by Him, LGBT love is entirely delivered from a sinful nature which is offensive,
No semantic tricks involved & especially no circular logic, that’s an absurd claim with insufficient evidence.
The scripture implicitly states that the union is between as husband & wife; a man & a woman, and explicitly denounces anything besides that, namely homosexual love, as a sin (Leviticus 18:22 - an “abomination”). A basic reading of scripture paints this very clear, why else would the LGBT denounce the Bible? It contradicts their entire worldview.
Therefore, the only true love can come from the one who created it; God, and that love is not LGBT’s twisted idea of love.
2. Demanding evidence for this claim is strange; it’s a well known element of scripture, perhaps you should read it yourself to think critically:
- “For this cause God gave them up to vile affections, for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the women, burned in their lust toward another, men working with men that which is unseemly…” - Romans 1:26-27.
- [ ] Here, the apostle Paul is talking about God‘s anger at sinful humanity & clearly indicates homosexuality with the term “lust toward another” - Lust; the strong sexual desire toward another, thus it seems to be a sharp declaration of these acts - Homosexuality of both sexes, a sin. This carries on from the Old Testament Law in which it was explicitly clear that men lying with other men (Being sexual or romantic) is a “abomination”.
Concluding: If this doesn’t show you that scripture implicitly states the LGBT lifestyle as an abomination to God, perhaps that’s a problem with your standard of proof than the evidence from scripture.
3. What is the natural law? It’s the law we humans are to abide by whilst on earth, it’s called the “natural” law - Devoid of supernatural elements. God made the law, and as He is the eternal creator of the universe, there would be no one better to make it than Him. Who else would we have make it? Joe Biden?
This answer cannot be logically inconsistent because the premises are very clear. That is the second time you’ve claimed circular logic & not shown me exactly what is circular without evidence; it assumes the answer is the same or similar to the premises, which is fallacious thinking:
- Premise 1: There is a natural law,
- Premise 2: God, being the creator of all, also creates the natural law,
- Premise 3: God is perfect, can be trusted & the best to follow for guidance,
- Premise 4: Therefore, it is wise to trust how God has laid out the natural law to us.
Now, I agree that there are faulty interpretations; plenty of people get God’s word completely wrong for their own benefit, like abortion activists. That said, scripture isn’t as deadpan as is implied; certainly verses can be interpreted, but the core doctrine & messages on human sexuality are not. As such, no respected Biblical scholar will tell you that the Bible does not regard the homosexual lifestyle as sin, crystal clear that is.
Concluding thoughts:
What have we learned? There are two types of love - People’s idea of love & God‘s objective love, and it is wiser to trust in God than in man. Also, scripture implicitly condemns homosexuality as sin & denying such would qualify as a delusion; a belief held despite strong contradictory evidence. The interpretation of humans doesn’t apply to human sexuality in the Bible; it is very clear that romantic love is between a man & a woman, and people must either accept God’s stance or not.
the tough part of telling the scipture in a loving and respectful way..
Discrimination can never be loving or respectful
It's tough to tell the scripture in a loving and respectful way when it is fundamentally hateful and vindictive.
People use the "love" word too easily nowadays, I think a lot of people actually mistake lust with love and their inability to accept that is what causes them to not move forward on a spiritual level.
To me it seems Christians have no idea what lust means and try to conflate forms of love with it
@@akoskormendi9711 From what i've heard, love is selfless and always considers the other person, while lust is selfish and only considers oneself.
@@Strive1324L That'd actually be a pretty good way to differentiate the two. That definitely doesn't apply to homosexuals any more than heterosexuals however.
But lust is definitionally just extreme sexual attraction.
heterosexuals are the best at confusing love n lust
@@pastorbri sexist😂
I appreciate the gentleman's ability to not get defensive and just state the truth
She's a plant.
@@bmlsb Every human willl never be gay. 10-15% of people are gay; that leaves plenty of heteros to keep the species going.
Steven Hamilton first of all, there is no truth coming out of Tureks mouth.
Second, the only thing he is doing is making someone feel bad for the way that “ god made her”
This superstitious nonsense will eventually get flushed out of our society, once more and more people are educated about science AND about the reason behind religion
@doug nut ur going to hell in a nut basket
Big Cricket no need to call names sir
Love that this young lady is having a desire for truth.❤
She came to the wrong place to find "truth". All she got was assertions.
We all suppose to know what is right or wrong inherently, so whatever she feels most be right then?
@@cyberdaemon How do you know that we all know what is right or wrong inherently? Is your knowledge of what is right or wrong perfect? Was it all in you before you were raised by your family and community? How do you know that?
@@UnconventionalReasoning Im asking same "what is right inherently" questions. I never claimed i know the answer. Because even terrorists are "certain" they "got it right" due to their inner convictions. Anyone can say they "fight the good fight". The religion is just a fairy tale by my opinion.
He handled that very gently and gracefully. Good job man. I really liked your response.
Yes, he "very gently and gracefully" said to her, "You're evil".
trying to justify our sin , haven't we all been there ? God always wins , He created us , He knows what is best
Facts.
Thou shalt not kill . Syria, 500,000 dead. How many supported that ? The big lie , how many supported that ? Cherry Pickers.
@@johngawrylash7732 completely irrelevant to this discussion
God doesn't exist
@@LOSTEpisodesForFree He does
Really respect this guy! Love how calmly and respectfully he shares our faith, and allows people to disagree.
Sean Ocansey dug more into his shows where he debates against experienced debaters. He gets pissed off when he’s loosing a debate. What a charm... :)
@@namelessrose3859 OK, tbh a am kind of new to him
Thomas McGill Thomas McGill is probably not even your real name.. gtfo of here
Nameless Rose Turek handled this genuinely and professionally, he responded just fine to her loaded questions. Link me to what you are referring to with regard to his “getting pissed off when he’s losing”
@@namelessrose3859 that odd l've watched his tv series and watched multiple debates on internet ( Even with Christopher Hitchens) Frank hasn't been anything like what your saying, please show proof....
I admire this young woman's courage. She was born gay but commanded by god to be strait. What an unloving abusive god. How can any rational being accept that?
To love someone is a choice. It's not a feeling. You have to chose to love your spouse every day through your actions. Sometimes you don't have a loving feelings towards your spouse or don't want to do things for them, but when you start to do actions of love, then feelings will come up too.
Heart isnt reliable that's why don't follow your heart but lead your heart.
I couldn’t love a man if i wanted to. I am not attracted to them, i do not feel any attraction towards them. Only towards women. If you could feel love/romantic attraction for the same gender (you, not me) then you aren’t straight
Wow this man really has the anointing of wisdom. She tried to twist his words and he handled it with so much poise
@Sean Pittaway
YOU are the liar !
@connie feijen connie buddy, i read your reply to this... And you are saying... God of Bible, god of Bible... You know something... God of 5 religions... Catholicism, islam, Hinduism, Christianity and Judaism
..god of all these religions is one...... Jesus😱...yeah true
..! I don't understand why people say jesus is just god of bible... No friend, he is god of jews, hindus, gentiles... So that's a correction... I don't talk about the rest of your comment.. From middle east by the way... Good day/night(whtvr in u.s) 👍
@connie feijen COMPLETELY 100% FALSE. There have been countless, *countless* Christians delivered from the spirit of homosexuality, even ones who I knew personally. I'm telling you they went from being full on 100% gay to loving and being sexually attracted to the opposite gender. It's not always instant but God is real and can deliver anyone from the lies and confusion of the devil so long as you have faith and accept Jesus Christ as Lord.
@Alexander Charles no the God of Catholicism and Hinduism are very much not the same as the true God of the bible.
@@joshportie cmon now.. What do Catholics believe in then?! Hm josh?!..see let me tell you something... Hinduism believes in 2 creators... Bramha(creator)....and para.bramha(para means other in Sanskrit) so this other creator is INVISIBLE... Spaceless time less being.. That no one knows but Himself😇... And he was the one that created this bramha jr. Ok?.. And verses about this invisible god are like thhis in Hinduism....
Some of them.....
"oh lord of lords.. I praise you for coming to the World through a VIRGIN womb.
"oh lord of lords praise for you will be born at the center of the earth. (middle east, Bethlehem )
"oh lord of lords.. I praise you for being born... Through HOLY SPIRIT"
"oh lord of lords , praise you for being born in a most poorest way"(jesus had no house while he was born,it was outdoor somewhere )
"oh lord of lords i praise you for HANGING on 3 Nails"
"Oh lord of lords, i praise you for taking 5 wounds"
(2 nails on both hands 👐.. 1 on feet.. 1 spear stabbing near ribs.. 1 crown of thorns on fore head = 5wounds)...so ...on..
Btw these verses were being hidden.. Still hidden by many hindu priests and organizations ...worldy religions takes us to Savior.
That's what i said... And you say Catholics don't worship same god . Who do they worship then.?! Josh! I wanna learn too🙏👍
Wow, what a great little robust and considerate exchange on a hugely emotional topic that 99/100 times usually degenerates into name calling and people being offended.
... we didn't see the end of it.
I felt her emotional perspective too.
The word is sharper than a 2 edged sword. I think he handled that very well though
Religion is the ultimate appeal to emotion just saying that’s a fact Pray away illness heaven hell rapture resurrection and magic
Thomas McGill I guess you don’t understand what an appeal to emotion is 🤦🏻♂️
Very very good explanations.. nice approach by the man.. he is preaching through love and not hate.. respect
Wonderful analysis in brief but said it all in right perception. Thanks.
She basically said; why do I wanna do, what i wanna do.
Salvador Ramirez Being gay is not a choice. Sorry to burst the little Christian homophobic bubble. I know a lot of gay people who wish they weren’t gay because it makes their lives so much more difficult. If they wish they weren’t gay then why would they have chosen to be gay in the first place?
@@charliecharlie7670 but do you think they were "born gay"?. It is a choice the more they believe they're "gay" the more their brain will tell them soon they'll start saying they're "gay". It's all really false and lies from their flesh
Faith in Him I’m sorry, but you wouldn’t understand unless you’re gay. I see your opinion and I respect that, but my beliefs are that you’re born gay and that that’s in god’s plan for you, because us gays have no control over are attraction, just like straights can’t be gay. It’s just not possible. So why would you think it’s more of what we think rather than how we feel?
@@attv2082 Just a comment on your 'Straights cant be gay'. Conversion happens all the time. From gay to straight and straight to gay (look it up please, its very interesting and i dont mean crazy anti gay camps). Thus birthing the idea of homosexuality as a result of choice OR in a lot of cases childhood trauma/childhood exposure to sexuality/mental health issues etc which you could argue you cant help unless you seek help. We all have freedom of choice. No one is born good or bad, we have both parts inside, just as we have both attraction to same sex and opposite sex as we are flesh after all. You choose to act on it. Most straights can definitely admit to thoughts of homosexuality and strong feelings and some homosexuals then turn straight after an encounter with the opposite sex that they find attractive. Its your action that determines what you are not your thoughts. And no one can perform an action without free will otherwise you are either brain washed or hypnotized haha you get where im coming from?
@@charliecharlie7670 I wish i didn't have sex with my ex but i did. I chose to, i knew it would lead nowhere but hurt yet i did it because i WANTED to and it felt good. Again it goes back to human nature and free will. If you do research on the topic you will find a lot of strong scientific arguments that free will governs our actions. Otherwise we would just be autonomous robots just DOING what we are born to do and being what we are born to be. What defines you are your actions guys. Please rethink your place in the world, you can DO so much more and BE so much more in terms of spirit. You have the choice and the power you just need to persist your wants. NEED over WANT. The hardest things in life are usually the best.
This was well said. Respectful and didn't fall into the traps she set.
Why do you assume she was setting a trap instead of asking for guidance and insight?
@@denbecr49 Great question. Because when you debate someone who stands on doctrine that goes against the way you want to live, the first thing you do is try to get them to approve of your behavior in some direct or general answer. Which if you listen carefully that is what she tried to do. Then, if they won't do that. You then set a trap to get them to say that you are wrong and going to hell unless you turn from your sin. If the trap is fallen for, the person is on record and that enrages a lot of other sinners in that lifestyle and marginalizes the speaker and gives ammo to the homosexual sinner. He avoided it but stuck to biblical principles.
denbecr49
The Bible already gives the guidance and insight she needs, so I don’t believe it’s about that. He needed to trod lightly there and did an excellent job
@@rucaslicks5183 Not at all. He responded several ways. 1) How do you know that God directed you to love women?
2) Having feelings is not wrong it's the actions that flow from the feelings.
3) I am not one to say anything, I am not God or the moral arbitrator of the universe."
4) What is love? I mean If you believe in scripture and the natural law."
Etc....
Soaring On Eagles Wings how is what she asked a trap? She’s a lesbian who has no control over her feelings for other women and probably wondering why god hates her.. many homosexual people end up leaving religion because it’s very hard to reconcile your beliefs with your biological sexual orientation. After all, it’s must easier to change your religion than to change your sexual orientation.
Wow! Excellent job with the question. You nailed it.
I appreciate the way this girl approached this convo
The only answer this girl was looking for was; it’s ok to be a lesbian. Any other answer wouldn’t work in her mind. But like he said, we are all sinners.
The only difference is, we as Christians try to make the right decisions/choices on a daily basis. If shes living in her situation everyday, you’re MOST LIKELY not trying. But in reality, most of us do the same thing no matter how wrong it is in Jesus’s mind.
The only true person who knows your heart is the one who’ll judge us one day.
Can I just check something? This judge will be the one who is supposedly omniscient and omnipresent but decided to kill the vast majority of life animals and people ON THE PLANET in the flood, right? So I'm to be judged by a mass murderer. Doesn't that sound perverse?
Does it actually say in scripture that woman laying with woman is a sin?
@@shaunelliott8583 Yes it does and God gets angry at it. It was one of those sins that annoyed God to destroy Sodom and Gomorah.
@@catherinesikazwe86 is it also not ok to be straight?
@@shaunelliott8583 well, a man and a man is, but since women are treated more like property in the Bible, maybe it isn't.
This is why Christianity is a narrow Road ...were not allowed to give into every sinful whim...for our own good.
IMO......this isn't why Christianity is the narrow road at all...….this seems like Q & A to me...…..you say we're not allowed to give into EVERY sinful whim => How many can we get by with and still be Ok ? Christianity as I know it is simply BELIEVING in JESUS (HIS perfect sacrifice, death, burial and resurrection). If WE have to do things perfectly (before or after believing in JESUS) then the ROAD is not just narrow => there's NO ONE ON IT AT ALL ! Thanks be to GOD for doing it for us. The really amazing thing for us to do (after coming to know CHRIST) is to WALK BY FAITH. It seems like a tightrope. With LEGALISM on one side...….and LICENTIOUSNESS on the other !
Narrow indeed.
@@13kimosabi13 Say what? The narrow road indeed exists, and it consists of us denying ourselves daily, picking up our cross, and following Jesus. That is the narrow road. It's not easy to reject sin at times, but with God, all things are possible.
you are delusional
You may still get into heaven living in sin..but you'll have a hell of a life on earth and you'll always reap what U sew. I'll pick the blessed life thanks
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 Sadly, you don't know WHAT AGE WE LIVE IN => OR EVEN HOW WE ARE TO LIVE. Please stop taking VERSES OF SCRIPTURE out of context => God can not sin, God can not lie, God can not be unjust......on and on => many things are NOT POSSIBLE FOR HIM. Additionally, not only is it NOT EASY for you to reject sin at times => THE TRUTH IS => YOU DON'T ! YOU SIN EVERY DAY. Wake up before it's too late.
I like how he always has an answer, and does so respectfully
Very few people are going to show up with a question he hasn't heard. He's been at this for at least 25 years.
did this conversation continue? Because honestly it was just getting good. i want to see more of this debate.
I wish the video didn't cut off at 4:30. This is a good discussion that obviously had more content cut out.
When you live in the flesh, even while claiming to know God, you can look for reasons to justify sin. I’ve done it. Even knowing it contradicts Scripture I’ve struggled with things because I sought to justify my sins because it makes us feel better.
Good point and good answer, i forgot about that, God bless you, brother.
Job 40:8
I agree. Me too. We all have desires that we shouldn't act on, and not just that, desires we shouldn't entertain. Don't even dwell on them.
Rom 12:1-2 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
The commentary I read with this this morning suggests this proves to us that God's will and determination are perfect. i.e. Job 40:8. (Thanks for bringing that one up, Adela)
Павел Коровин thank you. I’m a female, though. 😂 It’s ok, everyone thinks I’m a guy because of my T Rex profile pic.
Well the truth of the whole matter is to fear 😱 God and Obey all His commands... 😉 😉 😁 😁
Most of feelings we have today are not true because they are created by what we've seen and heard and also experienced from the modern society, for example what's regarded as a modest appearance today would be regarded as sinful or bad a few decades ago
I love how Frank's response was logical yet scriptural, respectful, simple, clear and non-pushy. Respect!
I appreciate how Sammy led this conversation. Almost all people that I've seen that were asking questions and part of the LGBTQ community werent really asking but accusing, and most often, screaming. Sammy was actually inquiring answers and listened to his explanations. That was nice to see!
I know what same-sex attraction is like... and through God's Word and Spirit, I ultimately learned how much is destroys our spiritual understanding of why God made them male and female (FOR each other).
Yes, it all comes down to choice, whether we go God's way or Satan's, whether we do God's will or our own, which is actually the devil's.
Amen brotha
In my experience I was only attracted to women because I was envious of them/wanted their qualities and wanted to be seen like them in the male gaze. Hence me using the male gaze to to sort of aid me in digging a deeper hole of lust and confusion and jealousy and wants, all concealed by lesbianism or bisexuality.
For example
‘ouuu she’s so pretty and cool, I like her hips, I want her hips, I’m attracted to her hips’
But then Jesus knocked on my door and said
’uhhhhhhh no, stop that’
@@darkkitty22 I've always wanted to understand how people found others of the same sex attractive and this gives me a profound idea. Thanks for sharing and thank God for your deliverance.
@@darkkitty22 to me it sounds like you were never lesbian or bi in the first place, just confused!
Just awesome. I need to learn to teach and explain like him. With love. With compassion. Thank you sir.
Seriously I loved that he didn’t want to argue his way into making her agree. Just like Jesus taught, He didn’t beg people to believe but He spoke the truth and whoever had ears to hear received it. That’s speaking with authority that only comes with The Spirit.
@@YeshuaSaves3 Here is a question: Is sex only for reproduction?
Sorry for some odd reason my typing is going the opposite way.
@@YeshuaSaves3 Truth and belief isn't always the same.
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Jesus is The Way The Truth and The Life. There is no questioning this only doubting and denying what already stands. To deny Jesus is to quite literally be denying the very foundation all life is based on.
Sex in the context of marriage is for reproduction but also to have an intimate relationship with a spouse. As soon as it becomes about pleasure and lack of self control then you’ve lost The Way. We are to walk in righteousness desiring to love one another not just lust after each other which is to view someone as an object and less than as God sees them which is His precious son or daughter. We want to follow The Way which is in Love and selflessness just as our cells naturally do by the order of God. When cells become “selfish” what happens? They become too big as cancer cells and have to consume more nutrients which throws everything off balance. Not saying the cells have a choice but that we do and we can learn from our body how things aught to be based on how Jesus Christ has held it all together.
@@YeshuaSaves3 I question. I don't believe as you do. I didn't find God in church, it was bad
I was hoping to hear more, but excellent answer.
I thought his answers showed a lot of compassion and understanding. We are all here struggling together.
Whoa that Noah's example will stay on my mind for ever !!
I personally struggled with sexuality. I used to identify as bisexual. As I came to know Christ and understand what Jesus was saying, my world view on everything, including sexuality, changed. I used to live by the idea that “It’s ok as long as it doesn’t hurt other people.” Boy was I wrong. When you go against what God has deemed good and right, you ARE hurting someone. You’re hurting God. We were never meant to decide what is good and what is evil. God does. The reason Adam and Eve were forced out of the garden was because they attempted to define good and evil for themselves. We ought to learn from their mistakes. In my case, God was extremely gracious as I was granted attraction to both sexes. So, when my time comes to choose a partner for life, I already know which one I will choose. I will choose the sex that my gracious God has chosen for me!
Amen
Beautiful.
Nah, they wanted to be as gods…
Why do you think we have so many people that are lovers of themselves?
We’re on our way there.
That really sounds like an abusive relationship. Imagine if someone told you not to do something arbitrary and that if you do it you're hurting them. In reality they are the ones hurting themselves by trying to impose their restrictions on other people, and in turn trying to make you feel guilty for what is ultimately their own actions.
@@josephbevan1036your talking about other humans, not our creator- whom morality comes from.
God gives us any and all types of hardship in our lives so we can exercise virtue and become saints
According to James 1:13 you are wrong there as god does not try or test anyone with evil…
@@thefinancialmuppet5552 there's a whole book about Job that would raise a question about that...
@@itisntwhatyouknow if you read Job you will see that it was not God who caused his suffering but Satan, God let satan on that occasion to allow satan to prove a point… job remained faithful and proved satan a lier, so James 1:13 still stands pal 👍🏻
@@thefinancialmuppet5552 I don't get the attitude? God allows Satan to give us any and all types of hardship in our lives so we can exercise virtue and become saints...
he is so wise i would never think of this as answer to her questions, mad respect
“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9
Basically, you can't trust your own heart and feelings all the time.
Let God change you because He will make you new and righteous in Jesus.
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
Ezekiel 36:26
Amen
Yes! Amen
Amen.dude .
You certainly can trust what you and only you would know about your sexual identity. Your heart is another matter.
amen! the is why he said we should guard our hearts
They always want a person to speak for God, God spoke, now you can reject it or accept it....free will...
@Raymond Palmer You cite the scripture where Jesus taught reincarnation. I can save you time if you would like. It didn't happen.
Sean Pittaway you are a fool
So what about the people that are born into the "wrong" religion? they believe in their diety/god just as strongly as you believe in yours.
@Raymond Palmer Cite the scripture, chapter and verse. I will help you put it in context, if you can find it.
connie feijen you are never forced
Brilliant and polite way to address an LGBTQ+ question 👏
the fact that she asked this question speaks volume of how deep down she knows it is wrong
Jesus said
“Go and sin no more.”
Him Bike yea now try to go and sin no more .... impossible you can’t . He only said that so we could recognize our fallen nature
GraceAboundsAll 0707 u just proved u know nothing about sin
Him Bike so your telling me you can be sinless ?.
GraceAboundsAll 0707 in the Catholic Church we have Confession. So yes after one confesses his sins and receives absolution from the priest he is “sinless.”
As Jesus said in John
“Whose sins u forgive they are forgiven.”
If Jesus says your sins are forgiven
Do I have sin ? Or am I sinful ?
Many saints like
St. Joan of Arc went to confession daily.
Pope John Paul ll went to confession every week.
The question then is
How long can I remain sinless?
A week? A month ? An hour ?
We Catholics believe in free will.
We believe actual sin is an act of the will. We don’t believe we sin because we have a fallen nature. We do believe we sin when we choose to sin.
We do believe sin has 3 parts and 2 effects.
If I choose not to sin, then I’m sinless.
I’m 58. Ive sinned countless times.
I’ve also gone to confession over a 1000 times. Life is a struggle.
But I do know that Jesus said
“Be perfect as your father is perfect.”
Jesus did say
“Go and sin no more.”
Maybe just maybe Jesus knows more than u ?
Him Bike In the Catholic Church you also practice hardcore idolatry and worship the pope and Mary, which violates scripture.
And that's just one point of a great many. Catholicism violates scripture on so many points it's abhorrent. I hope you will leave the Catholic Church and quit asking priests for foregiveness. Only God can give that.
Amazing, gentle, and graceful response to a question that comes up a lot in these last days! Thanks for your perspective!!
And with no gaps?
Last days? Of...? If you mean, “The End Times”, it’s been going on for roughly 1900 years. So, I don’t think it’s “ending” anytime soon.
@@kimberlycarter369 Its not gonna end when you are expecting it. The bible declares that Jesus will come back when we all least expect it - As a thief in the night.
Just word salad for" Wah,Wah, Wah homosexuality is bad cuz this book says so. Don't question it and don't apply logic and critical thinking." That's why he makes me want to vomit. The bigotry and homophobia is unbelievable.
@@shanicesolomon9293 you completely missed my point. Various sects of Christianity have predicted the end times over and over again for 1900 years. It’s never happened, never will. Many authors of the passages in the Bible have even insisted that they where living in the end times. There have been 15 second comings, that I can remember, just in my few years on the planet. P.S. Savior The Savior has to be real, and he isn’t. Nothing to see here, move on with your life.
Love is not sexual, you can love someone without having sex with them and you can have sex with someone you don't love.
Sex is a choice.
Highly insightful answers
But who says love has to be sexual?
I love my family and don't have sex with them. Sex is for reproduction, not just for love purposes.
I love you, but just because you have a feeling, doesn’t mean is ok to pursue it because not all feelings are ok. Love is not just about sexual pleasure, is the combination and complementation of one's needs in the area that the other one is lacking, not in knowledge but in emotions that only each and every sex is born with, and the culmination of a life that only heterosexuality can biologically bring. Thanks to heterosexuality you and I exist, not otherwise.
To be a transgender is pretending you are someone you are actually not, the only one harmed is yourself because instead of fixing objective reality you are trying to fix your subjective imagination that at the end of the day the problem is not been resolved. They want to be accepted for who they are and yet, they themselves did not accept who they were.
Why not admit the reality and figure a way to be happy with it, instead of playing with imagination and not going anywhere?
If you want to be accepted for who you wish you were born as; first you need to accept yourself for whom you actually born as. Don't pretend to be someone you are actually not because living a fictitious life will devoid you of living life at full with your opposite sex.
May God bless you.
There are different types of love.
Sex is generally for bonding with your partner nowadays, the time people try to reproduce with it is in the minority.
No, feminine men and masculine women. They generally compliment each other, but general means there are exceptions.
Not just heterosexuality, but thanks to our parents having sex at the exact time for us to be concieved.
No, it's acting out how you feel you are. Your mental is more of you than your physical. Transgender people just want to work on matching up the 2. And physical is the lesser you.
Oh look, a homophobic bigot thinking he knows how someone should live their life, what fulfills them and makes them happy. Hilarious
@FernandoP1 - Art Zone Productions there is nothing wrong with same sex attraction and they are born that way
@@akoskormendi9711 What are the different types of love? And do you think that because something is popular, that it is okay? Hitler was a popular man.
It is only thanks to heterosexual parents, which is the reason you're here. So then you can also say that it is of no thanks to homosexuals that you are born and exist today. You can't say both, because there is a true and a false and only one of those relationships is fruitful.
If everyone acted on how they felt, it would be chaos. Maybe someone feels like sleeping with a married mn, or killing another person, or lying to others when asked if they have an STD. It's lawlessness. Or do you think it is okay to kill someone just because you're angry and you just feel like that's best for you? You are just as much mental as you are physical. Otherwise, there are no mental disorders. They would instead represent the real you.
If you tell someone they are wrong, does that make you a hateful bigot? People always want to pursue what makes them happy, but happiness doesn't last forever. Lawlessness is similar. You can act on your feelings and that can make you happy, but your happiness expires. So then it does not fulfill you. The solution is to seek something eternal that doesn't depend on your circumstances, which is the joy of the Lord Jesus Christ.
“The hope of the righteous brings joy, but the expectation of the wicked will perish."
(Proverbs 10:28)
So your telling to us that our main purpose to just procreation or everyone were obligated to do that?you know the sex could recreation you know?
@@tiannad1378 god and jesus are the only one who bring only eternal happiness? so how about atheist or others that didn't mind them aren't they aren't going to have eternal happiness?
I love how he handled this question
Handled it similar to how Jesus probably would’ve, you can tell the father speaks through him a lot.
Uhm probably not whole debate.
eat chicken al day what do you mean by that?
@@miguelmaturino2516 I think they're saying that this dude likes to tiptoe around questions instead of answering them up-front with a more direct answer.
@@GageMason He was trying to be careful...that woman would have burst into tears if he told her directly,he handled it well and at the end of the video im sure she understood his final sentiment
"It's not for me to say anything about love", "It's just my reading between the lines of my 2000 year old ancient religious text." The smartest thing Frank says to her is to remind her that this is a free country, so I hope this girl lives her life as she sees fit. I hope that she finds much happiness and I hope that it is far from this Christian psychological bullying.
So good. Linguistical genius. Much needed light in this broken world.
Yes, a linguistic genius. He can play word games to make a point, even with bad actual reasoning.
@@UnconventionalReasoning Try Jesus, what do have to lose?
@@besetfree5752 When it turns out that Vishnu is the real personal deity, he'll be upset that i picked someone else over him.
Also, I am uninterested in submitting to authoritarianism. If I wanted that, I'd also go live in a totalitarian regime today.
And I dislike Paul, and both the character, Jesus, and the religion, Christianity, seem to be his creation.
@@UnconventionalReasoning God loves us so much that He came to us in the flesh and also served as a sacrifice through the shedding of His blood for our sinful nature breaking the curse satan put on humanity. But we have to receive His free gift of salvation through repentance of our sin. When we reject God, we reject Love, the essence that He is. All I'm saying is when all else has failed give Him a chance, see if He is any different from the one you serve. You will come to find out He is the living God that hears and responds to your prayers like no other entity will. He will clothe you in the Peace, Love and Joy you have never known. If you ever feel like something is missing in your life in this broken world, I can testify that He IS the missing piece that will make you whole. God bless you. Shalom. ❤
@@besetfree5752 God loves us so much he makes us worship him. God loves us so much he made us flawed. God loves us so much he needed playthings like us. God loves us so much that we're supposed to think that salvation could have a price, but he made it free.
All else has not failed, only he has failed. Failed to exist.
I appreciate what you have found within yourself, even if you need to attribute it to an outside entity.
Frank Turek's title is close, it should be, "I Don't Have Enough Strength to Be an Atheist". It requires both personal strength and the acceptance of societal contributions, while removing the deity's contributions.
Pretty impressed with his respectful, non judgemental argument.
He can't really be Frank, since he is in some kind of school.
Barrie Hellon-Warwick Agreed
Leon Camero Regardless of where he is , this is the way we as Christians should approach these questions.
We should answer and not back away or step around what is being asked.
But at the same time the answer should come from a place of respect, courtesy and compassion
What makes her different is a probate mindset she’s giving her self over to unnatural ways and feeling and God simply says that if you act upon these thoughts in anyway you’re a homosexual offender.
@@LeonCamero What do you mean by that? You think Frank Turek is only being respectful because he is in a school? If so, you would be very wrong.
Dear Girl in this video, you and I have something in common, we both like girls. I don't blame you one bit, girls are so pretty and fun to look at.
But just because we may see a pretty girl doesn't mean we must act on that. I see pretty girls everyday but I walk right by and do nothing. You don't have to do anything either.
Here is something to remember: If you put your faith and feelings into other people, eventually they will let you down. No matter who they are or what they are to you. Your girlfriend could let you down, your boyfriend, your brother and even your mom and dad will someday let you down and disappoint you. But God is the only one who will never let you down or leave you.
Don't look to people as a way to define who you are. You are a child of God, that is who you are. Build your foundation on God and that will always be strong, but if you build your foundation on a person, that could be taken away in the blink of an eye.
Good luck young lady!
guess you should just never date then
Love and Dating as defined by the current world is built on desire to act on sexual feelings (lust), mistaking it for true love. Its a thin line between love and lust, If you really love em you wouldnt risk to use each other as objects to gratify sexual plesures.
Thats why Christianity urges us to reserve sex for marriage. The proper dating shouldnt involve sex or anything provoking sex, only then will you be truly loving to that person you claim to love.
@@peterharrison6495 "That's why Christianity urges us to reserve sex for marriage" and almost all Christians fail to do so.
'The proper dating shouldn't involve sex or anything provoking sex, only then will you be truly loving to that person you claim to love."
what makes you the arbiter of dating and sex? how do you know you can't truly love someone if sex is involved?
Do you not understand that some people marry just for sex? so your simple solution isn't exactly a solution.
Also, why do you care what people are doing with their lives?
Lust isn't always sexual and there is no either-or with lust and love, that's a false dichotomy, you can be married and still have lust, lust is a normal human emotion that is influenced by hormones like Estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone, testosterone being the strongest.
this explains why sexual desires drastically increase in puberty especially in men/boys
by the way lust is simply having sexual desires, whether you admit it or not you've had sexual desires before marriage.
Lust and objectification are two separate things as well, one of thought, the other is an action and objectification isn't always sexual as well, for instance, some people only talk to their parents for money
True words!
Kyle Yes, Christians fail alot and no one is perfect only God is. But some of these things we ought to know as true Christians. As Jesus said, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
(Matthew 7:2)
So yea..i think we Christians should ponder wether we atleast try to follow all of Gods will and not pick parts we like...
And im not the arbiter of sex and dating, this is not my morality its from the Word of God. If you believe in God or not thats up to you, but what i was presenting is from the Word of God. If you want reference i can show you.
I do care what people do with their lives because im loving enough to point out wrongs (in a loving manner) when i know they are going astray. And this is not what i think is wrong but what the Word of God says, the arbiter of morality.
Let me be clear im talking about sexual lust here. We are all fallen creatures thats why we are so lustfull and we cant be saved without the perfect sacrifice of Jesus(im saying this irregardless if you are a believer or not). But, acting upon that lust is another sin altogether, thats more of your choice.
Its true, hormone action is involved but we are rational humans and not unintelligent animals, not all emotions and feelings we ought to act upon. And sexual lust is one of them according to God's morality. Let people marry for sex, its their choice, but from my personal experience relationships based on sex rarely last, because in such relationships we objectify each other without knowing, mistaking it for love. And this to me just proves how God's morality is full of wisdom.
The fact she is even asking the question is telling that she knows what she is doing is wrong. I do things that are wrong every day but I know I need a savior.
no its homophobia that is wrong
@@pastorbri what do you mean by that. And by what standard are you making your claim. I’m not afraid of any person regardless of their sin. I think you have not given your argument much thought unfortunately
@@BossHossStudios homophobia is not a fear normally so most homophobics don't fear LGBT folk. A phobia can be an irrational hate, dislike or fear or all 3 even.....assume you need proof hate is a sin?
@@pastorbri God Hates Sin. It’s not my call it’s his. But the actual word “Homo Phobia” means to be afraid of. I tend to side with my creator on what HIS standard is. I am commanded to LOVE all people. But I do not have to agree with their life choices. That does not mean I hate them. That is irrational to assume that you hate a person simply because you don’t agree with them.
I am not gay or lesbian but if for a moment I put myself and try to live and feel as they do that is feel sexual attraction towards the same sex as I as a straight male do towards females,it is inconceivable to think that somehow that is a struggle they have to overcome that is the same as resisting the urge to steal or kill ,because they aren't natural desires,hunger ,pain or sexual desires are as natural as they come. Nobody can imitate or pretend gay,I just can't fathom how I would if not through some inherent quality of mine,sleep with the same sex add to that the ultimate consequence that the Bible prescribes.
Try and live and feel as if only same-sex relationships were allowed, and your attraction towards women was considered an abomination. Would you change your mind and marry a man? When did you decide that you had attraction for females and not men? Did you actually decide that, or did you at some point realize that is what you felt?
Feelings are meant to be felt, NOT followed!-Dr. James Merritt
Wow. That's great! Thanks for sharing that.
Nice
Then in that case people should not be allowed to have sex since it's a physical representation of your feelings......
Yet, the whole faith system is based on feelings.
@@humblesentiments1553 the whole athiest system is built on "feelings"
I really enjoy Frank's responses. He does not shame; he simply responds with what the Bible states, while simultaneously identifying compassionately with the struggles of others.
As an INFP, I wrestle with when others start to feel uncomfortable. It is a big dilemma for me. But watching his videos helps me somewhat figure out how to address other's genuine questions in a grace-filled manner.
he should say theres no sin in being born how God made you to be.
@@pastorbri Unless of course you were born with a sinful nature, which is what we all are born with.
This guy knows his story 💯🔥🤌🏾 very well said 👏🏾
Because God doesn't hate lesbians or any other LGBTQ+. God, whatever "he" is, created you with love in his heart. Men wrote religious texts, and while intentions may have been good, men are imperfect and afraid. God loves you.
This matter is one of the most touching thing in Christianity. I mean, most Christians never tried to understand the issues of same sex attractions but just to shame people who have the issue.
I can see in her voice she wants to believe in God but was struggling with this point. We need to have a compassionate heart to talk with these people. Most of them end up with depression and suicidal thoughts because of the feeling of getting rejected
Rejection is part of life. We have develop a thick skin and move forward in life. Yes rejection sucks but you can't let it destroy your life. You have to grow up and become a stronger person.
Yes, I can tell that she was genuinely struggling. I have compassion for her. I hope she has close friends to support her in this struggle.
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 For sure yes, but people's default mental fortitude is different. It mostly depends on the environment you grew up. When you face a person with issue, you are not just facing their present self, but the long history that made them who they are now.
We all have personal struggles with sin. Feelings don't justify your actions. I may feel love toward my neighbor's wife, but that love doesn't excuse me to act on those feelings.
@@samhayson7227 compassion does not mean justification of actions.
"Who can say what's right or wrong?" says the girl who doesn't want an answer.
There is a simple, straightforward response... "God" God absolutely has the right to define right and wrong for us. He made us. He knows our purpose and what contributes to that purpose and what detracts. He has revealed His standards clearly in His word, built them into His creation, and written them on our hearts.
"Who are you, O man, to answer back to God?"
@Nick Gagnon Ha ha. You've got the wrong god then.
@Nick Gagnon God is never wrong, God is perfect
Nick Gagnon I think what u mean is what if man is wrong about what God really thinks and feels about things we mess up there all the time
then at the very least he is an incompetent creator to make such a faltered race in his image,Hmmmmm...
Nick Gagnon how would the god, who decided what’s wrong, be wrong? That just doesn’t make sense lol
pastor Frank Turek, u nailed that question so well
For all the LGBTQ+ people. God did NOT mess up with you and Jesus loves you just as he loves me and everyone else.
“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” Proverbs 14:12 I love you all. Denouncing the spirit of iniquity in Jesus name. I was in the fooled generation. He who has ears let them hear, God loves us and wishes that none should perish. We are in the beginning of sorrows. I plead with you all to seek God’s word in this trying time. He will never forsake you.
Thank you for every word u just said ,,,
It’s true man will lead himself according to what he feels, and not upon the truth. I sincerely believe this woman wants to have sex with another woman, but it’s not gonna lead her to the truth; it’ll lead to an organism and that’s it; really no better than mastbation.
God is the personification of public opinion. The Bible should be used as a philosophical text. Snakes could never speak.
It is a common misconception that Christ said don’t be angry, but that isn’t true. The actual verse actual states: Mathew 5:22 “But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.”
But the Bible does say “Be angry but do not sin. Do not let the sun go down on your anger.
Ephesians 4:26
God gets angry He understands that it is entirely impossible to not get angry what He does want us to do is to not let anger cause us to say or do bad things.
@@thevulture5750 Praise the Lord for finding the Path. We all get lost until by his grace enables us to find the path. To him be all the glory and praise.
She’s looking for validation because without said validation she must forge ahead knowing she is intentionally doing wrong
Yes they will find teachers who will itch their ears. That gives them a false sense of security or delusion that they are going to heaven. They know the truth but are lukewarm.
I agree. We can play with words amongst us but you can't do that with Jesus! He'll know it before you think and speak them words.
idiots
valid comment
Yep
Beautiful analogy
There are plenty of examples in my life where I’d like for another Christian to tell me that the sin I enjoy doing is okay but that’s not reality. We have to stand up and preach about all the sin the Bible actresses and not sugarcoat anything. That is true Love.
that's right.
except it's misapplied. same secs relationships are not a sin in the first place.
but your bigotry is hate
@@Richie_P sorry you feel that way. I don't hate for bigotry reasons.
Love and sex are 2 different things, I believe she is mixing the 2.
Ofcourse no adult human doesn't know the difference between love and sex, yet sex between people inlove binds them the more, this is why sex very quickly pops up in the discussion of love, it doesn't mean one doesn't know the difference
Yes, and she is mistaking lust for love, as do most people.
Not suppose to be different. Love and sex go together. If not, well i suppose that's were sin comes in to it again
@@johanjansen3643 actually Johan, you are doing Love a major disservice if you claim that sex IS love. Absolutely, sex should always have love involved, although too many times it is not included even among husbands and wives, but Love is so much more.
If someone were to say that sex is love, then they have cheapened Love to just a feeling.
@@danielwilkinson1024 1 wife 1 sex partner 1 love
Great conversation! I wanted to hear the rest. Frank, as always explains the matter spot on! He had compassion for the young lady and was threading carefully. I pray for her! In this day and age there is so much to be confused of... I truly hope, as young as she is and for what it seems also intelligent, all this clears up for her!
Barry Midikiner well i understood just fine...
Barry Midikiner maybe english isn't your first language or maybe you didn't hear what you wanted to hear.
@Barry Midikiner How did he "dance around" her question?
@Barry Midikiner Simple.. A big bang should have a big banger. Nothing in this world had made itself. A phone cannot create itself, some one outside of its existence creates it. And nothing has, ever. A universe cannot create itself, but if you still say it had, you believe in magic, which is wrong as per your world view.
Barry Midikiner ?
God made you a lesbian the reason he makes everything. Because he loves you, he loves everything.
So others might see glory when you overcome the darkness in your life. So you can be an example as one who overcomes.
It’s sin that corrupts our hearts and minds
demigodzilla That’s funny!
dlhvac1 so true
Sean Pittaway you are a fool
connie feijen well sometimes that’s how it be
lmao stay mad
When people make decisions on their feelings, all hell will break loose in their lives. Drug addiction starts that way, murder begins with a thought or a feeling etc etc.
@@Hylianamused As stated in the video we know by intuition what is right and wrong. The Bible is a tremendous tool for discernment but much of the Bible is properly understood when placed in context. Fellowship with Christian devotees and many pastors are very good at helping us to understand bible verses from context. You Tuber Dayz of Noah does a terrific job at putting verses in context along with Round Saturns Eye and The Scariest Movie Ever.
If religion was based on logic, no one would believe it.
Exactly. That's like saying why did God put love for women in my heart but fornication is wrong.
@@Hylianamused so i have this desire to own Dodge Charger that my friend has but i don't have the money yet but the desire is there, i really wish i could get it. It's totally okay to have that desire, i can work hard and one day have enough money to buy it BUT what if i lose my patience and instead resort to stealing. Does that mean stealing is okay since God put this feeling of desire and impatience in me so i must act on the feeling and since it feels so good it must be okay. NO! We get wrong impulses everyday, there's a reason why strength is not in Lifting heavy weights but in Controlling yourself. People do wrong things when they are angry and later regret acting that way. God created Men for Women and Women for Men. That's how it's always been and that's natural, that's how humans have procreated. Control yourself. Learn to ward off evil thoughts.
@@Hylianamused yeah by that logic everything exists in the world but not everything is good. There's evil and there's good. And we have free will. Animals kill their own babies so that means we should too? Nope.
Handled with the true bigotry and hate that religion brings. We are all sinful, but we will ignore most of the sins we all commit and single out homosexuals for hatred and condemnation. But then he will hide behind the book and say 'it's not my opinion', my book said so. Disgraceful
As a Neuropsychologist, I have studied human behaviors and had to look at real time brain activity. We have found in the last decade that all trans, bi, and gay brother and sisters are dealing with some type of baggage or trauma. Baggage is a negative emotion that hasn't been processed. It's stored even physically we are seeing negative emotions not processed or healed will be stored. (these negative baggages are anger, sadness, hurt, fear, shame, guilt, and anxiety). We are even seeing additions are all rooted in trauma or baggage. It has caused those effected by unprocessed negative emotions to wire their belief systems or subconscious. It's not created at birth. In fact another scientific study found after sutying DNA codes and human genetics, we see addictions can be inherited but not sexuality. That is learned and based on subconscious programing, which is learned.
Can you point us to the study where you guys documented this finding?
People always seem to be claiming such things, but not show evidence when asked. Curious
When I hear the question “why did God make me this way” in regard to sexual orientation I ponder to think. God created man and woman, opposite genders attracted to each other. But God did not make just one gender, male or female, to be attracted to each other. What then happened...sin happened. Sin corrupted not only our natures, but, I believe, our emotions and intellects, and over time even our physical being. If my proposition is true, then it is sin that has corrupted the entirety of our being and that includes how we feel and respond to others at a sexual level. The ‘God made me’ argument is an attempt to blame God for our desires and choices. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed the Deceiver, and the Deceiver wanted to shift blame onto God. My friends, the universality of sin’s corruptive power is that it corrupts not only our nature but our emotions, and even our physical being. Sin corrupts even our attraction to one another. What feeling of love for each other was meant to be before sin has now become an excuse for same sex attraction, and hence God is blamed. But in Christ we can be restored, the sinner made whole, our attractions made what was originally meant to be, man to woman and woman to man.
Yeah I totally agree with this man I just think we live in a fallen world and that brokenness manifests itself differently for everyone and this is just one result of that falleness
I'm confused, given that every human stems from incest I'm not exactly sure how it's possible not to be in sin, as clearly it doesn't matter who you love it's wrong from source 🤷🏻♂️
Kevin Appleton it’s possible to be not in sin because, Jesus already paid the atonement of our sins. Yes, we will still sin naturally because that is our nature but the difference is is when we repent; confessing our sins and asking for forgiveness continually, we will be forgiven because Christ already died for us. That’s how great God’s mercy is, He has given us another chance to live and has given us the power to say no to sin.
@@kevindarkstar Please explain why you think we are all the products of incest. In my professional opinion, incest would not have been a sin until much, much later in human existence because it was not wrong in the beginning to marry your sister or cousin since the genes at that time would have been quite pure. It is much the same way when breeding animals. At the onset it is okay to breed brothers and sisters, but if that practice is continued, soon afterward the genes breakdown and what results are deleterious mutations.
A few books of the Bible, particularly the early parts of the Torah, contain narratives of individuals who had engaged in sexual relations with near kin; while this could be misconstrued as incest, endogamy is the alternative interpretation. The Bible does not, for example, forbid cousins from marrying, but it does prohibit sexual relations with several other close relatives.
And just as I mentioned, there are very good reasons for this.
In ancient times, tribal nations preferred endogamous marriage - marriage to one's relatives; the ideal marriage was usually that to a cousin, and it was often forbidden for an eldest daughter to even marry outside the family. Marriage to a half-sister, for example, is considered incest by most nations today, but was common behaviour for Egyptian pharaohs; similarly, the Book of Genesis portrays Sarah as marrying Abraham, her half-brother, without criticising the close genetic relationship between them, and the Book of Samuel treats the marriage of a royal prince to his half-sister as unusual, rather than wicked.
We also must be careful about assigning current definitions and practices to ancient times because the situations were quite different, and reasons for making later laws against such practices became more prudent and necessary.
Lastly, there is quite a big difference between love and lust. When a man claims to love another man or a woman claims to love another woman, and then uses that false idea of love as an excuse to engage in homosexuality; it is not real love that is at the heart of the matter; but lust. If it were absolutely acceptable for homosexual relationships, God would not have created male and female in much of all living things.
Well said champ!!.👊🏽
whEw I could smell the defensiveness in this video.. unfortunately with people in that mindset, their goal isn't to gain newperspective, but instead to "win" the conversation.
Yes, Christians are very defensive about their idiotic religion
@@Matthiasschweizer to be fair she was trying cut him off and he asserted that he was not finished by elevating his voice and continued to speak. After that she was able to express her POV.
@@joetroutt7425 I just mean generally. The Bible can never be wrong cause apparently God approved it
@@Matthiasschweizer here's the thing. For some who believes in God and chooses to follow the teachings of Christ and adhere to the law of God then that's fine for them but someone who doesn't believe then why should they care one way or another about the law of God or even the existence of God?
The case with this woman is maybe she is struggling with that issue bc like the guy in the video said about natural law. In your heart you know it's wrong but choose to ignore it. If she is battling that issue of being gay but feels that she totally believes in God and has a moral dilemma on what to do then she is hearing answers she doesn't want to hear bc it goes against what she wants and not what God wants.
@@joetroutt7425 This dude is tip toeing avoiding to answer the question and straight straw manning
I like his answer, direct & correct.
Feelings can be wrong. Just like some feelings can be right. This is how we judge whether to lean into them or reject them altogether.
True, but calling sin evil _feels_ pretty evil to me.