@maciverandy1 No-no-no, Bible do say that, it does. Jokes aside: just becasue you HAD you say what you said - He is Lord, amen. And if you ain't sure in your own answer - then what kind of answer is this, who cares then?)
Jesus was created by the christians decades after his supposed life ended. Nothing about the biblical Jesus is true. That's why you need faith, so you can trick yourself into believing something that is otherwise simply unbelievable. Belief without evidence = faith. Santa Claus is just as real. Keep your money, make Frank Turek get a real job.
It's not a "moral question", it's just that it doesn't make any sense. If God wants a relationship with you, why is he absent? If Frank is going to use analogies like if a guy likes a girl but the girl doesn't like the guy, he can't force her to like him. Then if a parent wants a relationship with a child, why would they never spend time with them? A child needs a parent to be actually present in their lives, not just sends money every month and gives them toys frequently or send them a letter every other week saying how much they love them. They need to actually be with them and spend time with them. If a person claimed to be a parent but you never met them in person or even spoke to them on the phone but instead you just received money, toys and letters that claimed their love for you and lots of other nice things, would that be enough to build an actual loving relationship on? I believe most people would question if that parent on the other end really exists because a person who cares deeply for their child would not be that absent from their life if they could help it.
@david grace It’s nice that your a Father and a Friend to all but what do you mean by your Morality? Your morality standards are contributed to all the Morality that humanity has, So if a man were to say Killing is bad and the other Killing is Good they wouldn’t know what is really right or wrong
ONE OF THE BEST answers to this questions I've EVER heard. Thank You Frank for your thorough ANSWER to this common question. God will not force himself upon us, but will allow everyone to freely CHOOSE whether or not to respond to the light they already have - THE LIGHT OF CREATION and THE LIGHT OF CONSCIENCE.
A hindu obviously sees creation around him. Yet.. he might ascribe the creation to a god such as Krishna. The only point of reference the ancient Hindus had was was their pantheon of 300 million gods. The God of Israel is not in that pantheon. How is the Hindu supposed to make the enormous leap from seeing creation and then ascribing it to the God of Israel, when he didn't know where the middle east was, didn't know where Israel was, and didn't even know what a jew was? His only reference point is Hindu Gods.
@@wilber818There is no good reason for him TO reveal Himself, either. Many people in history, who God revealed Himself to, humans, demons, and Satan himself, knew well that God exists, but rejected him anyways. People sometimes reject their own relatives due to mere disagreements. If God revealed Himself, it would simply be a different excuse of rebellion than we see now.
For those whom He FOREKNEW He predestined and those He predestined He called and those whom He called He justified and those whom He justified, He glorified. God knew before the creation who would be the people of God no matter when or where they grew up God would get the message to those who would believe/love/trust in Him for salvation “in/through Christ Jesus”
Stephen Elliott the only way you think that Frank never answered the questions is because you are atheist I presume if you are it sad why your ears are deaf your eyes are blind your heart is congested to gods grace you will never understand it not a insult it reality to God ,open your heart and see and hear
@@antoniofiammelli1792 no, he literally did not answer the question. He just said God didn't reveal himself because they did not accept him, but how are they supposed to accept him if they've never heard of him?
I have often asked myself the same question. but not in these certain terms and it is a very good way of putting it. Frank does not answer the question to my satisfaction. When it comes to this sort of thing, I wish these teachers were humble and admit that they don't know everything. For me "I don't know why but I still believe" is a good answer.
Terrance Mallory Really the only thing that can be said about this question, frank pretty much covered. God only revealing himself to part of the world has nothing to do with whether or not it’s true. That doesn’t tamper with the evidence in any way. And Acts chapter 17 does make it clear that God has ordered the time and place that people would be born in such a way that everyone will have the best chance possible to come to him. So the people who “don’t hear” would not have believed anyway. And who’s to say they don’t hear in the first place? We don’t know what happens in their mind. God could come to them in a dream or whatever it may be. But yeah frank handled it the best he could in my opinion
But the reason why they say NO is because their is no valuable reason. If I love someone I want them to know I exist not remain hidden like some weirdo. So this argument fails it really does. How are we supposed to embrace worship and love someone who doesn’t even reveal himself. Now take into account all the suffering in the world, unanswered prayers and lack of proof and you got yourself an atheist.
GOD, probably, recognize's that we are imperfect/sinful human beings... Thus, he also recognize's that we won't always be able to get the Good News out to everyone. --- I'm reminded of an island, in a bay in the Indian ocean, that is off limits to visitors. Not just because of the government, but because of the hostile tribe living there. At some point in the last couple of years, a Christian missionary tried to land on the island to attempt to spread the word about Jesus. The tribe killed him. (May have Ate him too.) There has literally been, no other contact with the tribe in decades. We're not going to be able to get to them by human efforts. Short of invasion. --- So I expect, GOD is handling it. Himself. Because his perfection (His perfect LOVE, and perfect Justice...), would demand no less! Sorta like how he has to have been handling all the Miscarriages, Abortions, & Children's Deaths, over the millennia.
I know who you’re talking about!! You’re talking about the tribe of the Sentinel Islands in the Indian Ocean!! Yes those people are so quarantined and operate still within the confines of the Stone Age or the Bronze Age!!
God is guided by his words, character and principles. These 3 are interrelated. The bible says God's throne is established on righteousness and justice. Because God is loving, does not mean he will not excute judgement...God is not fair, God is just.
Frank, im hearing so much about "predestination" which is all new to me. What are your thoughts on total depravity and predestination in the way Calvanists believe it to be scriptural?
Calvinism isn't something to get bogged down with. Follow Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit and listen to God's testimony given to us in the Bible. You'll never need more than that. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something. Calvinists will muddy the water by arguing valid points in invalid manner and application. Total depravity exists within our flesh for sure...as Paul said "in my flesh dwells no good thing". But spiritually we are reborn and become a new creation. This happens even while being in a totally depraved state. The outward man is dead and cast away, the inward man is born again and will live for all eternity as a friend and child of God. Our actions should reflect this new creation we become. And in Calvinism predestination tends to be more tilted toward the notion that God simply chose people based on nothing and no real merit. Seemingly random. In actuality each person is called according to their own actions and free will to repent of their sins and serve God. The Book of Life was written and sealed before the earth was formed. So of course God preordained everything. But we also know that God wants WILLING servants. That means our own free will to come to God on His own terms and be led by His Spirit. God is unchanging. The same yesterday, today, and forever. Calvinists have some reasonable talking points, but ultimately fail under full Biblical scrutiny. I won't go so far as to say they aren't Christians, but I have my skepticism and take each one subjectively. There are a few points in which they seem to have a misunderstanding of what the Bible would appear to be very plainly and openly teaching, and that is a problem.
Easy question to ask a Calvanist: The Bible says whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Rom 10:13 KJV) Ask them if they've ever called upon the name of the Lord for salvation
total depravity is wrong because calvanism teaches that is impossible for us to get saved without God giving us saving faith to start with, they basically claiming God saves only who he wants to save contradicting clear passages from the bible example John 3:16 God so Love the world that he gave his only son for "whosoever" believes in him shall not persish. whosoever means anyone not just some as they claim. even if God gives you faith to believe in him, they also believe that if you die away from God it was a sign that you had faith but not saving faith, so is a works based religion. predestination as taught by calvanism also teaches that God already knows those are will be saved because according to them God already chosed them to be saved, but thats not the case, again God knows who those that will be saved already because God is not bound by time as we are, so God knows because he can see it already not because he made that decision for you. all them that choose to believe in Christ have already been predestined to be saved, those that dont believe in Christ have already been predestined to go to hell. I would suggest to stay away from calvanism and also dont take my word, please inform yourself because knowledge is power. if you have no knowledge of the word you can be easily fooled by false religions.
crazyworld54321 anyone who believe that their christian life wilm determin their destination isn't a christian, we are not saved by living holy or following the commandments or going to church, we are saved through Christ alone and has nothing to do with our obedience to God after we trust Christ. works and our obedience discipleship and fellowship will only determine our rewards in heaven, we need to learn to separate the two, salvation comes by trusting Christ. rewards come from serving Christ. you can be a disciple and still not be a christian. you can be a Christian and not be a disciple. also repent of sin isnt bliblical. repent in the greek is two words meta-noa it means a change of mind, it doesnt mean what the english translation means, to feel sorry or to turn away from sin. dont ever use that term when trying to witness to anyone, telling someone they need to feel sorry or to turn away from sin implies they need to do something of their own to be able to get to heaven which is considered a works, which the bible says we are not saved by works or by ourself otherwise we would have something to brag about. ephesians 2:8-9
When good things happen they credit God's glorious plan. When bad things happen they use the 'mysterious ways' excuse. There is literally nothing that can happen in the real world that won't confirm their beliefs.
NeoDemocedes what you said is so true. And now I ask you what’s wrong with trusting someone you know intimately? You don’t understand this form of thinking because you don’t have a relationship with God. You can’t trust someone you don’t know!! If you don’t know God then you won’t trust him
NeoDemocedes It’s simple. In order for objective good and evil to exist, there has to be something that transcends us. And once you follow the evidence further you see that it’s God of the Bible. So yeah. I’m sorry you don’t like it but if there is anything objectively good or evil, then God has to exist. If he doesn’t exist, then the things we all know to be real are not really real
@@Gusjv93 I call that the, 'You can't see Santa unless you believe in the power of Chirstmas' argument. It's circular logic and every bit as unfalsifiable as the 'glorious plan'/'mysterious ways' excuse. If God can't manifest in any objective way, then 'God' is not the word I would use to describe your experience. Imaginary friend is the term I would use.
@@thetannernation Good and evil are subjective regardless if God(s) exist. You are not required to follow any god's commandments. It is your choice. Would you do the bidding of an evil god?
NeoDemocedes It is your choice. That’s the point of free will. But what does that have to do with right and wrong? I always find it funny when I come across a non believer who is actually bold enough to claim there is no objective right or wrong. The problem with that is I guarantee you don’t act like what you claim to believe. If someone mugs you and steals your iPhone, you’re not going to get up afterwards and say “oh well, his morality is just different than mine.” No. You know that’s wrong. And I would not follow an evil god, good thing there’s no evidence for an evil god.
God knows all things, seeing all things, having full understanding, holding absolutely good mysteries -which He reveals to man in the only best way in all existence... which man or organization of men have what the Creator has?
He was geographically very small. No mention of lands that the middle Eastern authors weren't aware of. It's funny how he didn't inform them of Australia or something that they didn't know like a polar bear. Maybe it wasn't Gods word at all?
Andrew Oliver And ruin the adventure of exploration? That feeling of excitement when something new is discovered? When you make a gift for your friends and children, you want it to be a surprise because it is more special.
Andrew Oliver That's an unproven assumption. Just like what I'm going to say, hopefully you'll respect the notion as I did you. Who's to say that people from other lands didn't visit the areas of the scripture (not necessarily for that, it could have been simple travel, like we do today...Hawaii, Africa, Italy, etc.) and in the process you have those who heard and believed, or rejected the idea of Christ. Upon returning to their homeland, both parties told of what they heard. Just like today, there would have been believers and sceptics. Those who believed, I'm sure God sent other confirmations, be it missionaries, dreams, or speaking within their hearts and minds.
If you want to find God you will find him but you must search will all your heart and soul. Acts 8:27 Acts 10 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
John Ortiz How do you search with your heart and soul ? My heart only pumps blood and what is a soul ? What evidence do you have that such a thing exists ?
This has to be the most adhoc answer. God didn’t want to share the gospel because none of these millions would have wanted it anyway......... isn’t it by the fathers grace that one comes to know him and repent?
That is what christians said after reinterpreting the same scriptures that jews had... And they were not convinced that the apocalyptic preacher killed by the Romans., was fulfilling any prophecy!
+wilber818..oh! I do not have to research that religion! I was born into it..indoctrinated..and suffered because of it..most of my life. But Christianity was no better! I do not Believe in Religion. I Do However Believe in Jesus. He is NOT a religion. He is the Spirit that lives within me Who Helps me be good to myself..and others. He comes as a prompting or a voice.
Religion does play a role in providing basic checks and balances to prevent society from degenerating to complete depravity... The Apostle Paul realised this was the role of the Law which was to act as a "headmaster" for moral grounding(Galatians 3:24-26) until the person came into faith... Ofcourse religion doesn't mean personal relationship as religion has to do with outwardly deeds and relationship has to do with inward transformation...
@@raphaelzorina3051 Religion is all about having a personal relationship with your Creator. Organized, institutionalized "religions" are often merely cults, or even social clubs. Dogma, doctrinaire, ritual, ceremonies, church edifices, wardrobes, formalities, etc. have very little to do with true religion. Being 'Born Again', means one is awakened to the deity living within. Ceremonies and rituals can't do that.
This is a ridiculous answer. Question being how do you know they didn't get saved? Well answer short according to the bible salvation is through christ only so if they've never heard of christ they clearly couldn't have gotten saved.
The Bible says every knee and every tongue shall confess that he is Lord. If you choose to believe that someone died with out knowing Christ, that’s why you’re human. You’re not omniscient. You have no way of knowing. You’re justifying your doubt with cynicism. “Maybe that secluded tribe never heard about God” says who? They’re secluded. You’d rather believe they didn’t, just because you wholeheartedly believe God doesn’t exist?
Divine hiddeness was one of the biggest things to drive me out of faith. Not just because God is super hidden, but because I asked so many times for Him to reveal himself to me more clearly, nothing happened. So after some studying and researching I thought "Man this is probably all false and I'm just trying to justify God's hiddeness."
@@OneBoundMusicHey! Well, that comment was only 6 days ago 😅 I'm pretty much getting more solid in my Agnosticism/Atheism with each passing day. But I keep maintaining an open mind to the idea that I might be wrong.
The thing is Nori that God reveals himself and his intentions with you but not as literally as you might want him to. I'm sure you've heard that God works in such mysterious ways that humans like us could not possibly comprehend therefore he is not going to literally appear in a cloud and talk to you or something along those lines (It is a pretty mundane, human way to think about it). Sometimes he might talk/show himself to you more meaningfully through an event, a situation, a conflicting decision, a person (whether that is a family member, a friend, a coworker, etc), an opportunity, an experience, etc. All these things can be tests to improve/ explore your character to see what you can change or where you can grow. If He was absolutely literal every time with every one and showed his true form, we wouldn't have the capacity to even process it, there'd be no faith involved and most people would believe out of convenience or intimidation rather than true conviction in God. Just to be clear, I respect the fact that you've taken a more agnostic perspective on this issue (I myself have had doubts sometimes), I'm just trying to present you a different perspective on this in case you have not considered it. Glad you're keeping an open mind on being proven wrong, that is important when having these conversations.
I do accept the idea that if any divine creator exists, it is way beyond my understanding. So it wouldn't probably act as I expected. But if I can be honest with you, the Old Testament shows a God that is rather pretty mundane. But let's not talk about the Old Testament lol, that is rather a extensive topic. Keep in mind that if God showed himself to humanity more clearly, it would NOT violate people's free will, if he was to limit himself. If that wasn't the case, how would one justify the stories in the bible itself where people saw a pillar of fire, bread falling from heaven, the sea being split in two, and they yet decided not to follow God. So no, if God showed Himself better there would still be room for free will. Now, you said God could show Himself to me through more subtle ways, in day-to-day life situations. While I understand your point and appreciate your perspective I must say if I'm expected to believe in the Christian God based on noticing the small things, I might never believe in Him. For the one who believes in Allah, everything testifies of Allah to him, when you really believe it, and look for it with belief, it's quite possible you will eventually perceive small things, conversations and situations as coming from your god. Now, what about a supernatural event which is independent of belief? You know, I always try to keep an open mind that there might be a God. And this God could be an unknown god, or your god. But the thing is, I know quite a bit about the flaws in the Jew faith. Not only that, I also know quite a bit of the problems in the Christian faith too. In order for me to simply deny those evidences against the Jewish/Christian religion and start believing in God I would need much more than just a "Small situation with a coworker." I'm truly sorry, but I think I could never believe in Christianity again without the Christian God proving me he's real. YHWH is indeed as hidden as Vishnu. Vishnu isn't real, and if YHWH is real, I desperately want to know why He lets people down here be in such a confusion about gods. I mean, according the bible, God will show Himself VERY clearly to everyone in the judgement day. So he hides himself throughout our history and then shows up when there is no longer time to repent?
@@nori_tutor I understand and respect your perspective mate. Thank you for sharing it respectfully. If you want something more grandiose or literal I hope you get it one day like I did. About the second paragraph, you can see how even when God showed himself people still rejected him, so it shows how us humans have a tendency to sin and be rebellious in most cases, that's why we need Jesus. On your fourth paragraph, the explanation I would give is that it is part of what I mentioned earlier, our rebellious, sinful nature. God even explicitly says "don't worship other gods" to Israel and people still did it. And by other gods I don't mean just the likes of Anubis, Bahal, etc, a god can also be material things or fame, money, a possession, etc (something you give it an exaggerated amount of importance or value more than everything else). People set the confusion themselves when God gave them a way to see things more clearly. Also that "small situation with a coworker" is one of the many ways God speaks, he's also present in more impactful or complex experiences/ decisions/ events. Could you go in more depth about what do you mean by a "supernatural event independent from belief"?. I apologize if I take long to answer your next response, I have to sleep and do other things lol.
@Eagle Nutrients Still around? It's funny to see the same people always interested in something they don't believe. If I believed something didn't exist then I would move on, not keep coming back. Something has you curious, I wonder what that could be.
Reveal himself in dreams? Then why does he tell the Mormons one thing and the southern Baptists something else. Why does he reveal one thing to the seven day Adventists an another to the Lutherans? Why does he say one thing to the Jehovah's witnesses and something else to the Greek orthodox? Why does he reveal something to the Christian Scientists and another to the Catholics?
Jeffrey Stern God doesn’t reveal Himself differently to different people. There is a truth and then there is how one interprets the truth. I think the Houston Rockets are the best basketball team, you might think the Miami Heat are the best. The truth is that the Warriors are because they won the championship. Mormons fell to believe in a false prophet who claimed to change the game on the Bible 1800 years after Christ. A quick study will show how messed up that belief is.Jehovah Witness were given a false believe from a man named Charles Taze Russell. They obliterated the Bible with their own version that takes away the Deity of Christ. Muhammad claimed to get some game changer from the angel Gabriel 600 years after Christ so he switched things up and started a cult following. I could keep going and going as Religion is what I study. The truth is that God gave us his word in writing and even warned that there would be false teachers, false doctrines etc. God provides truth but Lucifer is doing all he can to sprinkle falseness in the minds of man. It’s a shame because like the Bible says people give themselves over to their itching ears. Eternity is at stake. And yes, even in mainstream Christianity, different denominations that say tithing is correct or lead people to think that there is something else man needs to do to get on the same page as Christ. The TBN channel that shows “Christian” stuff all day is all false. The world looks at that and thinks that is what God wants. It’s not. The Joel Osteens, the Carl Lentz and all the false preachers out there....man it’s scary. The Bible says “my people perish for the lack of knowledge”. Over 40 authors wrote 66 books over a period of 1,600 years and it all reads as if one person wrote it. There is truth and worth searching for
@@bentonvillefamily Yes.. but you miss a very important point. All the members of all these different denominations all say they have a personal relationship with Jesus. They can't all be right. Either there are thousands of different Jesus Christs running around or there's one.... but he's telling different things to different people. Otherwise... different denominations wouldn't exist. Everyone would be in lock-step belief wise.
Jeffrey Stern I agree with you 100%. Jesus says in Matthew 7:22 “On judgment day many will say to me, 'Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' Notice that Jesus said that they said “in your name”. He warns throughout the Bible that people will follow another Jesus. A Jesus that can’t save them. So yes, I agree with you totally. We even have people alive today who actually claim to be Jesus and people follow that person. Why? Because they follow what their itching ears want to hear instead of studying the Word that God have us.
I think God knew if he went to any other nation He would have been embraced and loved and would have never been crucified. So He had to come into the jewish community to be hated by his own people and be crucified. That is a thought.
No. Lord Christ Jesus came to fulfill the law. The law was established through the children of Israel. The bloodline (Daivid) needed to be established as well.
Another way to interpret the question would be: why people with different background, when they experience a deity, the deity is always the one of the person belief? Should God allow this? Or maybe it is just a post interpretation of a natural mental state?
Hello Cross Examination, I'm a Roman Catholic, I have a Question I don't know if anyone may have an answer why did Jesus start his ministry and preaching at such a late time in his life of what I understand it was around when he was 30 years old and he did when he was 33 that was only 3 years to do everything that he wanted to do as a young man if he would of started when he was in his teens he would oh have allot more time to visit more places.
@@MrAntoniosavelli OK... but this is still God! You mean to suggest that god is just working as a carpenter and the jews notice it and just walk by as though he's just a regular old jew? Are u kidding? So he's born with all this hoopla and fanfare surrounding his birth... and then people just go on as normal even though God is walking around? Are you serious?
@@jeffreystern5886 Wow you took my answer so wrong I did not mean anything bad I don't know if that many people knew who Jesus was at such a young age when he did not go from place to place preaching. again I could be 100% wrong I don't know But please don't take my answer as something bad that was not my intentions I Love Jesus ,Our Lord ,Our Saviour, Our God.
@@MrAntoniosavelli I'm not condemning you. I'm inquiring that given the amount of attention given to his birth... Christ child is born.. wise men show up with gifts... etc. How could jesus (god) be walking around at any age without throngs and thongs and throngs of people AND scribes following him around 24/7 ? There are a few sporadic mentions of him when he was young.... then poof...he's not mentioned at all from ages 12 to 30! How can God be walking around and nobody know it? Then... when he finally does show up again at age 30.. nobody asks him where the hell he's been for 18 years! Something is screwy.
Right, we all have a choice. Either believe in God and Jesus and go to heaven OR be thrown into Hell for eternity. What kind of choice is that? Not quite like choosing your next date. More like a gangster's offer of protection.
@RetroMan How is it a warning? I have been created due to no will of my own and I'm responsible for someone else's mistake, did your god create the devil and hell? And according to your beliefs there's going to be a lot of people in torment either someone's got this very wrong and it's a very bad plan why would you want to create knowing the outcome is going to be horrific for the majority or its simply a lie.
@@josephking1947 If a baby die, does he go to Heeaven? Yes The baby was born with the original sin. It wasn't his fault, and was his only sin. Now if you are like a baby, and you die, will you go to Heaven? Probably, but you are not a baby. Therefore you need to repent and accept Jesus Christ as your savior. And follow His path, to get saved.
@Mark L the problem with your statement is that you are seeing hell from the perspective of a Christian. There are many people that would prefer hell over heaven. Hell is described differently from a luciferian. perspective but it is simply the separation from God. Now the choice is up to you where you wanna go. I personally would rather choose heaven but the description of each location is has been defined by Christianity and therefore may not apply to you. My point being that you are contradicting yourself because you refuse God but are using his description of location and fear going to hell.
Jesus gave up a weekend and then got resurrected to live forever. What was sacrificed, exactly? He gave up a weekend to forgive the sins committed by some ancient person of dubious origin. Wow, that makes sense.
I think he is assuming that God did reveal himself to the rest of the world but they have chosen not to accept him, and that is where he makes the answer a moral one. I've heard this speech from Frank before, although I am not sure where. I think the question this guy is actually asking is, why is there no other evidence for God's revelation around the world? Why would God only seen to reveal himself to this one corner of the world at this time.
He did answer it by saying God reveals Himself to different people at different times in different ways. Some people need one way while others respond to a different way. The universe and nature itself is God revealing himself to all humans yet most people will look at the stars and nature and never ponder a single thought. Jesus performed miracles, prophets told the future and still people were blinded to it
The issue here is natural revelation vs special revelation. Romans 1 says all know there is a God, not all know the gospel. Gods purpose of election (Romans 9:11-16,) and has the potter no right over the clay? (Romans 9:19-6) .
God could appear to everyone - and if He wants to save everyone, why can't He do that? What's wrong with God getting His will accomplished? What if he spared everyone the wrath of hell, but allowed everyone to continue to exist otherwise? Why is that such a nightmare scenario for the evangelical?
I am a black American. My family is Christian. That means that for them to have been "saved," the Christian Europeans had to go to Africa and take slaves to the Americas where they would beat the slaves' African identities out of them and replace them with Christian identities. With that said, you are telling me that God, creator of the entire universe, could think of no better way of communicating with Africa other than this brutal system? That's just one example of the ways Christianity has spread throughout history. Not to mention the crusades, Inquisition, colonization of the Americas, and the Holocaust.
Music by A.D it’s kinda funny how the 2 biggest religions of the world are also the religions of 2 of the biggest empires in human history. Almost seems like conquering as many people as possible and spreading said religions by the sword might have something to do with how big the religions eventually got. Let’s hope Tom Cruise and his wacky band of weirdos don’t try to conquer the world. Or eventually we’ll have statues of Xenu and Ron L Hubbard’s goofy ass everywhere.
Ah my friend, let us analyze your comment. 1)I am a black American.-- It is unfortunate that you allow your identity to be defined at least in part by the amount of melatonin you possess. You are a human being :) We are all basically the same color just different shades! To me you are beautiful creation worthy of care and respect!~ 2) My family is Christian. --Possibly true but irrelevant to anything. 3) That means that for them to have been "saved," the Christian Europeans had to go to Africa .-- nonsense, your family's adoption of christianity could have happened in any number or ways. 4)and take slaves to the Americas where they would beat the slaves' African identities out of them and replace them with Christian identities. -- again utter nonsense, while it may be true it is no way is necessarily true. It is an emotional appeal to illogic. Also many people claim to do things in the name of christianity that clearly does not comport with christianity. 5) you are telling me that God, creator of the entire universe, could think of no better way of communicating with Africa other than this brutal system? --- no one said that. Mankind is sinful, imperfect, rebellious and sometimes evil. Has nothing to do with what God intended. Has to do with what man decided to do. 6) That's just one example of the ways Christianity has spread throughout history. --- conflating christianity with the actions of some of those that claim to be what they are not. it's a red herring and a straw man all in one. Just because I call myself a buick and live in a garage does not make me a car ;)
Some biblical perspective, God divorced himself from humanity after the tower of Babel and assigned lesser gods to rule over humanity. He then started over with Abraham and Israel. This explains why he only revealed himself to such a small number of people/nation.
this guy goes off the beaten path when he really can't answer a question he seems to Kno everything that God would do and thinks then tells ppl not to assume what they would do if they where God his answer makes no sense to this question and he just can't bring himself to say he doesn't know and answers like he got the only facts a real hypocrite and a joke
Love rarely happens right away. If God really existed and actually loved people, he would show himself physically and earn his place in their hearts the same way we humans make friends with one another: through patience, acts of kindness, quality conversations and respect for the other person.
Firstly God is a spirit being. God created original Adam to be his son and to rule the earth with Him. Adam lost both positions because of his choice to listen to satan's lies. Adam got separated from God lost his sonship (became son (slave) of satan), the beginning of death and satan took his authority to rule the earth. We are still living in that scenario. God made a way for man to get reconciled with him. God manifested in Adam's fallen state (flesh) to restore what Adam has lost, all we need to do is make a choice also. This time the choice is to reject satan and the influence he has over us and to ask Jesus Christ to save us from satan's bondage and to restore us into his image and likeness. Once Jesus resurrect your spirit, it is possible to reconnect with His Spirit and start having a personal relationship with our Father. God is constantly looking for those who seek him, if you are serious about it, God will reveal himself to you even through other believers to show you the way. Hope you find Him too.
@@andrevisser7605 Supposedly, God is not confined to the spirit world. He can make physical appearances on Earth, and has many times, according to the Bible. Why has he stopped? Why would a person need to believe in original sin, the resurrection, the Great Flood, or anything else in the Bible, when all God would need to do is knock on your door, perform a few miraculous magic tricks, and you would believe in him on the spot? Obviously, believing that a person is real isn't the same thing as loving them, but hey, its a start.
@@falsexgrindx378, yes God made a few physical appearances in the Bible, the last time his manifestation in flesh (Adam's fallen state) to restore what Adam has lost. His next appearance will be when he come to rule with his sons, the reason why he created Adam in the first place. God gave man more than enough to point to the way back to him, it is as easy as a choice but he will never force you. To those who make the choice, he is very real, I experience his interaction, guidance and teachings constantly. You are right, you can only love someone who you have a relationship with, that is exactly what God wants, just ask him to reveal himself to you. God made a way for everyone to get back to him, he manifested as one of us and ultimately died on the cross to free us from satan's bondage, all he ask is for you to choose life and not death...
@@andrevisser7605 These Biblical assertions have no scientific evidence behind them. You can't just believe in something because the Bible says to. You wouldn't jump off a bridge just because the Bible said you should, would you? And even if these things did really happen, maybe they were enough to impress everybody back then, but it's been well over 2000 years since God's last supposed miracle. Everyone who might have seen those miracles is long dead. If God wants to convince anyone of his existence here in the 21st century, then he really ought to show himself and perform some new miracles, instead of merely resting on his laurels.
@@falsexgrindx378, that is what you don't see, God made a way for *everyone* to return to him 2000 years ago. He got a written manual to teach us about him complete with instructions how to have a personal relationship with Him. Those who follow the manual got a daily experience with him... God makes the rules, He is the creator, if you think you can tell him what to do and how to do it you are making a mistake.
There's an explanation about why Jesus appeared as a human instead of in all of His glory as God that has always helped me. If God had shown up with trumpets ablaze and with all of His power and might, as He will when He comes again, leaving no question that this is God and we should believe in Him, then the whole world would certainly follow Him. But they might not follow Him out of love. They might believe in Him out of fear, out of pride in knowing that God chose them, or in wanting something from Him, but not because they love Him. God is only interested in relationships where we follow Him out of love. So He showed up, small and meek, as one of us, and slowly, as people fell in love with Him for who He was, He revealed that He was the King and Creator of the Universe and if we believed in Him then we would go and live with Him forever in an eternal kingdom. The KIND of relationship we have with God matters; only a relationship of love will do.
All the mental gymnastics you can think of won't explain god not appearing in the world as being too easy of a test. You happen to be passing the "harder" test of believing without evidence, as far as your thinking goes?
@@andrewoliver8930light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouth. Take a guess which one you sound like?
@@robertmitchell5863 Nice insult. However, the point is good. There's lots of religions and religious leaders that need their 10%. The product they sell is a happy afterlife. No returns, no upset customers. Best scam ever.
@@robertmitchell5863 His job relies on him stretching science and facts to suit his narrative. His salary relies on him being an apologist. He fools people. I'm for science and reason and honesty. That's why I'm bothered.
How do you they wouldn’t have believed in him anyway? And If anything doesn’t this go against God giving us free will? If he knows they will reject him but he’s not going to give them the evidence anyway then he’s making it so they are set up to fail to begin with, right?
This speaker can not consistently use his Bible and has to sway people using his own fundamental twist on Christianity. There's a youtuber called efdawah that has aot of useful information on his channel.
Yeah and I think it helps where it says that God is willing that none should perish also it says that he foreknew all that would be saved it would make since even if that would only be one person that Christ would go straight to that one person. Same for a group etc.
To this atheist who asked the question, why did God only present himself to a few people living in the desert and not to more places around the world? Answer: You're talking to someone everyday about Jesus, what makes you think he hasn't revealed himself to you many times throughout your life? It's your choice not to see or believe. As for Jesus, his legend has outlived empires. For the Kingdom of God is like a mustard seed. One man, alone, without the aid of states or armies, stood up against the beliefs of literally the whole world at the time and they murdered him for the trouble. If Jesus wasn't God, you would have never heard of this man as many have made the same claims whose names no one knows nor cares about. Christianity shaped so much of the world, reshaped how we live with one another and how we try to treat one another, it's almost unbelievable that he could make such a massive impact on the world after only 3 years of teaching and you know, having to walk basically everywhere. And plus, you're talking about him, ain't ya?
hell isn't just separation from God brother. David said if I make my bed in thou art there. you can't get away from God but Hell is the hot house of firey torment
About the woman who survived Holocaust and rejected Jesus. First - you SURVIVED it. Second: if she is a jew, she might have rejected Jesus because she is a jew. Third, if not, then listen: if you angry at God for what is happening... you angry that it happened to you (if you're gonna play Mother Teresa and start this "i'm not sorry for me, but for others", for others you are other, so you mean yourself and what happended overall anyway), then WHY, if you believe and expect something of God, WHY are you NOT christian? Why are you waiting something from Him, but through magic wand and magic helper? And if you're not a christian - what do you EXPECT then? Because how are you going to LET Him be in your life? This is a HUGE logical problem and fallacy here. If you have in your heart "i would, but i don't know if He is real", then what will you loose to actually believe and ask Him something? But know people, that God CAN answer, but He will 100% answer if you are of Christ - belong to Him, because you applied Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour outloud with your mouth (Romans 10), and that's the only way. People at that time may be though that there is no God because of this war... wich people themselves did... well again - same logic goes to ANY of these people))) Why are you not christian and if not, what do you expect? And fourth, if she though that God must sustain the universe in perfect condition - He NEVER, and i mean, NEVER promised any of that. That's what people made up (or catholic or orthodox church have implied). We are separated from God, we are alone withou HIm, on out own. Acknowledging that, i think it's smart to chose Him and make that decision. Nobody force you, nobody CANNOT force you, and you won't loose anything, why everyone is so scared about it?) This happens in your home, nobody will even know. What will happen? Money will fade away from a prayer? Or that it will actually work?
A friend of mine persisted for years with this girl he liked, and she always said no. One day he went to her house and told her i am gonna move on and never ask you out again. Then she said wait lets go out. They dated for a while, then got married and now they have 2 kids. What i learn from this story is that not all women know what they want, so God uses good men to guide them.
As a Catholic I have to very much disagree with him here. Whenever missionaries would land in places like Japan for example, thousands would convert, often risking their lifes to do that (many japanese christians would end up beeing cruxified). So how can you claim that not a single human beeing would have become christian in Japan if the Lord would have shown himself to them?
Good answer, and yes alot of people don't wanna hear about hell. Good news is hell is not real, ... yet. Fire from God will come and devour the earth and all wickedness on it for the final cleansing. But it will not last forever, it will last for a period of time. So anyone asking is my so and so in hell right now? You can simple state what the bible says. The bible says, as of right now, no.
gods actually popped up on different parts of the world; norse gods, aztec gods, egyptian gods, hindu gods, etc., and they are spirit beings called elohim (Sons of God) which had the work to usher people to God, but saw it as an opportunity to show their side which confused and broke into many religions. Remember they believe in heaven. Their gods look like animals because the face of those spirit beings look like animals.
it is speaking of indentured servants, the poor and homeless would indenture themselves to a master in order to have a roof over their head and food in their belly.
If God proved his existence to everyone, who in their right mind would reject God? I think you would be intellectually dishonest if you think more people wouldn't come to God if they KNEW He was there. The only argument I can come up with is that God already knows what we would have done if He made his existence as plain as the nose on our face and so it doesn't matter because God knows all alternate realities and our choices in those alternate realities. So it is possible that my atheistic friends would go to Heaven because God knew that if he reveal himself to them, they would repent and follow His ways.
It’s literally not a moral question. It’s a more matter of fact. Why didn’t god reveal himself to others outside the biblical setting. If he did I’m pretty sure people would believe him if he, ya know, preformed a miracle and SHOWED HIS ACTUAL SELF or something akin to that. That would’ve saved more people don’t u think.
I think the best question to still ask ( I am not taking credit for this ) is .... if Christianity is proven true to you and that God is real .... would you be a Christian and worship God ? .... would you accept the bible ? ..... if there was no cancer , rape , racism , everyone knew God [ insert your reason or reasons here ] ..... whatever your reason is for not believing .... if that thing was false or changed but you still wouldn't be Christian ...... why do you have a reason or complaint for not believing at all ?
I don't know anyone who would not convert with actual evidence. The problem is you guys have asked us this question a million times and not a single atheist has ever been shown god. He has never appeared to anyone to confirm Christianity. So, what is the point of your question? To make it seem like people who don't believe have too high of a standard for evidence because they require evidence at all and you don't?
@@MrTheclevercat it isn't complicated .... if we asked you if christanty and God were proven true to you .... 100% factual .... would you be a Christian???? If it is about truth with you and that's all that matters .... you would think a atheist would answer yes . But if there is another reason that matters more to you ... the answer would be no . If you can disprove God , prove evolution and other things that would have to be true for the Bible to be false ..... I would be a atheist
Franks examples are entertaining at best, but as far as I'm concerned they're not applicable. Why? Because God and humans are not on the same playing field. Meaning come on people, wake up and release that no matter what angle we come at this from there are going to be questions that are left unanswered, unverified and unable to be so, because that's an inherent problem with retrospective analyses. If only we had a time-machine!
@@Serre_m7ntre Thats nice to know...and here I thought "God" wanted to save as many souls as possible ...so lets wait thousands of years. Would have been smarter to have Jesus come down soon after the exile of Adam and Eve.
He did not come earlier in order that we might learn faith. “But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith” (Galatians 3:23-24).
Completely agree! This was not a moral question, more a question of....this doesn't make any damn sense! How come an all powerful, all knowing god didn't reveal himself to everybody!?
@maciverandy1 why does every atheist I know say "religion was created to control the masses"? For one, there has never been any evidence to support this claim. Secondly, what would be a reason to control the masses? Would it be to keep people dumbed down? If so then why? Is it to keep people docile and contempt so there won't be any uprising? And thirdly, if religions were created to control the masses, then why are there so many religions that disagree with eachother so much so, that it leads to conflict? Does Chaos=Control in your definition? This statement is a statement with almost no reasoning.
@maciverandy1 First of all you never answered my question. Secondly, Christianity are not people that think they are good, but sinners that are saved through Christ. We all fall short of the glory of God. And as a child, yes the thought was a bit perplexing but that idea never wanted me to reject God or say he doesn't exist. Eventually I became atheist, but then I realized there were flaws in my thinking. I didn't want Christianity to be true because what I was doing went against everything God said. And I WANTED to do it. I eventually came to my senses. But the reality is, after we die, there is an eternity, which side would you want to be on? And to say there is no eternity after we die would be the biggest gamble anyone could make.
Caleb Parke You are completely full of BS! "Eventually I became atheist, but then I realized there were flaws in my thinking. I didn't want Christianity to be true because what I was doing went against everything God said." Said no atheist in the history of the world! Stop lying! People don't become atheist because they are mad at god or because they want to sin! That is BS said by people who misrepresent atheism, just like what you are doing!
This answer is just silly. Basically god cannot reveal itself because then we lose free will. Except that anyone who's read the bible has seen that even after god reveals itself the people are still free to make a decision. Eve knew god existed but she was still able to choose her own path......satan definitely knew god but it still chose its own path. God revealing itself only answers one question....it exists and that's it. Whether a person then chooses to worship that god is another issue altogether.
The problem with this argument is if you ever actually get to know people who aren't saved, it takes an unreasonable amount of faith to say better evidence wouldn't save many of them. A religion that couldn't codify that owning other people as beatable transferable property was empathetically ignorant and a shitty option for a social construction, looks man made. Note to this day this has never been codified by a prophet or anything unlike thou shalt not lie or don't eat shellfish. The greatest sin one can commit isn't murder or abuse of kids. No, according to this religion it's skepticism. You can literally be a person who spent most of their life a cold blooded killer and go to heaven, but if you ask too many questions you're damned. Maybe, just maybe, god didn't talk to the aztecs, african tribes, native americans, and so many more (some isolated tribes still to this day) but in fact was localized to an area because christianity was just another man made cult. The "keeps asking you out" thing is a terrible anaogy seeing as none of these people I mentioned through history ever heard of jesus. How is anyone rejecting someone they don't know exists? At least the Mormons had the sense to try and rectify that a bit. Also, why are the stakes all tied up in a short human lifetime? All believers can respond with is god is mysterious or they wholesale make up some fan fiction full of self-contradiction. But to hear people say that they can't understand the nature of god then try and tell everyone the nature of god is not terribly convincing.
Thank you father for speaking answers through this preacher 🙏
Jesus Christ is Lord
Amen, amen.
@maciverandy1 No-no-no, Bible do say that, it does.
Jokes aside: just becasue you HAD you say what you said - He is Lord, amen. And if you ain't sure in your own answer - then what kind of answer is this, who cares then?)
Jesus was created by the christians decades after his supposed life ended. Nothing about the biblical Jesus is true. That's why you need faith, so you can trick yourself into believing something that is otherwise simply unbelievable. Belief without evidence = faith. Santa Claus is just as real. Keep your money, make Frank Turek get a real job.
@@brudno1333 Where did you get that info and that definition of faith?
from everlasting to everlasting, Amen and Amen!
That joke he always does never gets old😂
It's not a "moral question", it's just that it doesn't make any sense. If God wants a relationship with you, why is he absent? If Frank is going to use analogies like if a guy likes a girl but the girl doesn't like the guy, he can't force her to like him. Then if a parent wants a relationship with a child, why would they never spend time with them? A child needs a parent to be actually present in their lives, not just sends money every month and gives them toys frequently or send them a letter every other week saying how much they love them. They need to actually be with them and spend time with them. If a person claimed to be a parent but you never met them in person or even spoke to them on the phone but instead you just received money, toys and letters that claimed their love for you and lots of other nice things, would that be enough to build an actual loving relationship on? I believe most people would question if that parent on the other end really exists because a person who cares deeply for their child would not be that absent from their life if they could help it.
Yes that's what i have been saying
Why people seems to not understand it
WOW I can LISTEN to FRANK all DAY!
@david grace How exactly can you justify your Moral Reasoning? You have no source in atheism, It’s a lack of belief in a Creator!
@david grace Continue On..
@david grace Well your an Atheist aren’t you? As you say in the Comment Section.
@david grace It’s nice that your a Father and a Friend to all but what do you mean by your Morality? Your morality standards are contributed to all the Morality that humanity has, So if a man were to say Killing is bad and the other Killing is Good they wouldn’t know what is really right or wrong
@david grace Wait Wait! Slow down there bud, What does that have to do with “Where does your Morality Come from?”
Excellent ! :):):) Dr. Turek you are getting better. God bless from Kalgoorlie, Australia.
A place not mentioned in the Middle Eastern Bible.
Why is that?
Because bible is a book of divine revelation not geography @andrewoliver8930
The perfect analogy....
ONE OF THE BEST answers to this questions I've EVER heard. Thank You Frank for your thorough ANSWER to this common question. God will not force himself upon us, but will allow everyone to freely CHOOSE whether or not to respond to the light they already have - THE LIGHT OF CREATION and THE LIGHT OF CONSCIENCE.
Superb video!! Christianity 101!!
If he wanted us to choose, he should have given us any sort of evidence to believe in him.
This is an awesome answer!
A hindu obviously sees creation around him. Yet.. he might ascribe the creation to a god such as Krishna. The only point of reference the ancient Hindus had was was their pantheon of 300 million gods. The God of Israel is not in that pantheon. How is the Hindu supposed to make the enormous leap from seeing creation and then ascribing it to the God of Israel, when he didn't know where the middle east was, didn't know where Israel was, and didn't even know what a jew was? His only reference point is Hindu Gods.
@@jeffreystern5886 Krishna and every other God from every other bible doesn't line up with what we see in Creation the Universe etc that's the point.
Awesome answer Frank. We gotta use the right Tactics when answer questions like the one mentioned here.
He literally didn't answer the question, there is no real good reason why God could not reveal himself to the entire world.
The right tactics? Just answer the question based on the book rather than a fudged answer.
@@wilber818There is no good reason for him TO reveal Himself, either. Many people in history, who God revealed Himself to, humans, demons, and Satan himself, knew well that God exists, but rejected him anyways. People sometimes reject their own relatives due to mere disagreements. If God revealed Himself, it would simply be a different excuse of rebellion than we see now.
For those whom He FOREKNEW He predestined and those He predestined He called and those whom He called He justified and those whom He justified, He glorified. God knew before the creation who would be the people of God no matter when or where they grew up God would get the message to those who would believe/love/trust in Him for salvation “in/through Christ Jesus”
God did not appear in more places because not everyone is capable of imagining a god that is not there.
Brilliant again Frank
What was brilliant he didn't even answer the question?
Stephen Elliott the only way you think that Frank never answered the questions is because you are atheist I presume if you are it sad why your ears are deaf your eyes are blind your heart is congested to gods grace you will never understand it not a insult it reality to God ,open your heart and see and hear
@@antoniofiammelli1792 no, he literally did not answer the question. He just said God didn't reveal himself because they did not accept him, but how are they supposed to accept him if they've never heard of him?
I have often asked myself the same question. but not in these certain terms and it is a very good way of putting it. Frank does not answer the question to my satisfaction. When it comes to this sort of thing, I wish these teachers were humble and admit that they don't know everything. For me "I don't know why but I still believe" is a good answer.
Terrance Mallory
Really the only thing that can be said about this question, frank pretty much covered. God only revealing himself to part of the world has nothing to do with whether or not it’s true. That doesn’t tamper with the evidence in any way. And Acts chapter 17 does make it clear that God has ordered the time and place that people would be born in such a way that everyone will have the best chance possible to come to him. So the people who “don’t hear” would not have believed anyway. And who’s to say they don’t hear in the first place? We don’t know what happens in their mind. God could come to them in a dream or whatever it may be. But yeah frank handled it the best he could in my opinion
God is present in all places.
This is the most convoluted "logic" I have ever heard.
But the reason why they say NO is because their is no valuable reason. If I love someone I want them to know I exist not remain hidden like some weirdo. So this argument fails it really does. How are we supposed to embrace worship and love someone who doesn’t even reveal himself. Now take into account all the suffering in the world, unanswered prayers and lack of proof and you got yourself an atheist.
GOD, probably, recognize's that we are imperfect/sinful human beings... Thus, he also recognize's that we won't always be able to get the Good News out to everyone.
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I'm reminded of an island, in a bay in the Indian ocean, that is off limits to visitors. Not just because of the government, but because of the hostile tribe living there. At some point in the last couple of years, a Christian missionary tried to land on the island to attempt to spread the word about Jesus. The tribe killed him. (May have Ate him too.) There has literally been, no other contact with the tribe in decades. We're not going to be able to get to them by human efforts. Short of invasion.
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So I expect, GOD is handling it. Himself. Because his perfection (His perfect LOVE, and perfect Justice...), would demand no less!
Sorta like how he has to have been handling all the Miscarriages, Abortions, & Children's Deaths, over the millennia.
I know who you’re talking about!! You’re talking about the tribe of the Sentinel Islands in the Indian Ocean!! Yes those people are so quarantined and operate still within the confines of the Stone Age or the Bronze Age!!
"I'd rather laugh with the Sinners than cry with the Saints - the Sinners are much more fun - you know only the good die young"!
Billy Joel
Nice, hey if an opportunity comes up for you to speak in or near Fort Wayne, In. I wanna be there. Good work sir.
Who that? 😅
Which begs the question as to why everyone outside of Israel would be so unsavable. But savable after the Incarnation.
i think he can respond so easily is because he is a christian apologist, so his thinking is tailored towards such things, thats just how i see it.
yamato uchiha if it makes sense why wouldn’t he :p
I don’t understand why more atheist don’t get it when I was an atheist I understood perfectly that there was no such thing as good and evil.
Great job...Frank
God is guided by his words, character and principles. These 3 are interrelated. The bible says God's throne is established on righteousness and justice. Because God is loving, does not mean he will not excute judgement...God is not fair, God is just.
So why would you be punished for not loving him then?
Because you’d love sin instead, Turek or other apologists might say.
Can't beat that explanation.
Frank, im hearing so much about "predestination" which is all new to me. What are your thoughts on total depravity and predestination in the way Calvanists believe it to be scriptural?
Calvinism isn't something to get bogged down with. Follow Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit and listen to God's testimony given to us in the Bible. You'll never need more than that. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.
Calvinists will muddy the water by arguing valid points in invalid manner and application.
Total depravity exists within our flesh for sure...as Paul said "in my flesh dwells no good thing". But spiritually we are reborn and become a new creation. This happens even while being in a totally depraved state. The outward man is dead and cast away, the inward man is born again and will live for all eternity as a friend and child of God. Our actions should reflect this new creation we become.
And in Calvinism predestination tends to be more tilted toward the notion that God simply chose people based on nothing and no real merit. Seemingly random. In actuality each person is called according to their own actions and free will to repent of their sins and serve God.
The Book of Life was written and sealed before the earth was formed. So of course God preordained everything. But we also know that God wants WILLING servants. That means our own free will to come to God on His own terms and be led by His Spirit. God is unchanging. The same yesterday, today, and forever.
Calvinists have some reasonable talking points, but ultimately fail under full Biblical scrutiny. I won't go so far as to say they aren't Christians, but I have my skepticism and take each one subjectively. There are a few points in which they seem to have a misunderstanding of what the Bible would appear to be very plainly and openly teaching, and that is a problem.
Easy question to ask a Calvanist:
The Bible says whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Rom 10:13 KJV)
Ask them if they've ever called upon the name of the Lord for salvation
total depravity is wrong because calvanism teaches that is impossible for us to get saved without God giving us saving faith to start with, they basically claiming God saves only who he wants to save contradicting clear passages from the bible example John 3:16 God so Love the world that he gave his only son for "whosoever" believes in him shall not persish. whosoever means anyone not just some as they claim. even if God gives you faith to believe in him, they also believe that if you die away from God it was a sign that you had faith but not saving faith, so is a works based religion.
predestination as taught by calvanism also teaches that God already knows those are will be saved because according to them God already chosed them to be saved, but thats not the case, again God knows who those that will be saved already because God is not bound by time as we are, so God knows because he can see it already not because he made that decision for you. all them that choose to believe in Christ have already been predestined to be saved, those that dont believe in Christ have already been predestined to go to hell.
I would suggest to stay away from calvanism and also dont take my word, please inform yourself because knowledge is power. if you have no knowledge of the word you can be easily fooled by false religions.
crazyworld54321 anyone who believe that their christian life wilm determin their destination isn't a christian, we are not saved by living holy or following the commandments or going to church, we are saved through Christ alone and has nothing to do with our obedience to God after we trust Christ. works and our obedience discipleship and fellowship will only determine our rewards in heaven, we need to learn to separate the two, salvation comes by trusting Christ.
rewards come from serving Christ.
you can be a disciple and still not be a christian.
you can be a Christian and not be a disciple.
also repent of sin isnt bliblical.
repent in the greek is two words meta-noa it means a change of mind, it doesnt mean what the english translation means, to feel sorry or to turn away from sin.
dont ever use that term when trying to witness to anyone, telling someone they need to feel sorry or to turn away from sin implies they need to do something of their own to be able to get to heaven which is considered a works, which the bible says we are not saved by works or by ourself otherwise we would have something to brag about. ephesians 2:8-9
Thanks to you all who answered my question. I appreciate it. God bless each of you.
Law is written to their hearts.. romans 2:15
When good things happen they credit God's glorious plan. When bad things happen they use the 'mysterious ways' excuse. There is literally nothing that can happen in the real world that won't confirm their beliefs.
NeoDemocedes what you said is so true. And now I ask you what’s wrong with trusting someone you know intimately? You don’t understand this form of thinking because you don’t have a relationship with God. You can’t trust someone you don’t know!! If you don’t know God then you won’t trust him
NeoDemocedes
It’s simple. In order for objective good and evil to exist, there has to be something that transcends us. And once you follow the evidence further you see that it’s God of the Bible. So yeah. I’m sorry you don’t like it but if there is anything objectively good or evil, then God has to exist. If he doesn’t exist, then the things we all know to be real are not really real
@@Gusjv93 I call that the, 'You can't see Santa unless you believe in the power of Chirstmas' argument.
It's circular logic and every bit as unfalsifiable as the 'glorious plan'/'mysterious ways' excuse. If God can't manifest in any objective way, then 'God' is not the word I would use to describe your experience. Imaginary friend is the term I would use.
@@thetannernation Good and evil are subjective regardless if God(s) exist. You are not required to follow any god's commandments. It is your choice. Would you do the bidding of an evil god?
NeoDemocedes
It is your choice. That’s the point of free will. But what does that have to do with right and wrong? I always find it funny when I come across a non believer who is actually bold enough to claim there is no objective right or wrong. The problem with that is I guarantee you don’t act like what you claim to believe. If someone mugs you and steals your iPhone, you’re not going to get up afterwards and say “oh well, his morality is just different than mine.” No. You know that’s wrong. And I would not follow an evil god, good thing there’s no evidence for an evil god.
God knows all things, seeing all things, having full understanding, holding absolutely good mysteries -which He reveals to man in the only best way in all existence... which man or organization of men have what the Creator has?
Excellent answer. Truth uncompromised.
GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER
He was geographically very small. No mention of lands that the middle Eastern authors weren't aware of.
It's funny how he didn't inform them of Australia or something that they didn't know like a polar bear.
Maybe it wasn't Gods word at all?
Andrew Oliver And ruin the adventure of exploration? That feeling of excitement when something new is discovered?
When you make a gift for your friends and children, you want it to be a surprise because it is more special.
@@chrismugleston8625 That'll be it. Yes. What you said.
Andrew Oliver That's an unproven assumption. Just like what I'm going to say, hopefully you'll respect the notion as I did you. Who's to say that people from other lands didn't visit the areas of the scripture (not necessarily for that, it could have been simple travel, like we do today...Hawaii, Africa, Italy, etc.) and in the process you have those who heard and believed, or rejected the idea of Christ. Upon returning to their homeland, both parties told of what they heard. Just like today, there would have been believers and sceptics. Those who believed, I'm sure God sent other confirmations, be it missionaries, dreams, or speaking within their hearts and minds.
Andrew Oliver maybe that’s why God has not closed the books yet, to allow those far reaches can get a chance to hear the gospel
1) How many more?
2) How would that be of help?
If you want to find God you will find him but you must search will all your heart and soul. Acts 8:27 Acts 10 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
John Ortiz
How do you search with your heart and soul ? My heart only pumps blood and what is a soul ? What evidence do you have that such a thing exists ?
This has to be the most adhoc answer. God didn’t want to share the gospel because none of these millions would have wanted it anyway......... isn’t it by the fathers grace that one comes to know him and repent?
Jesus had to fulfill the prophecies to give credence to His legitimacy.
@J Don Can you elaborate?
That is what christians said after reinterpreting the same scriptures that jews had... And they were not convinced that the apocalyptic preacher killed by the Romans., was fulfilling any prophecy!
Jesus loves us Do we love him i do
+wilber818..oh! I do not have to research that religion! I was born into it..indoctrinated..and suffered because of it..most of my life. But Christianity was no better! I do not Believe in Religion. I Do However Believe in Jesus. He is NOT a religion. He is the Spirit that lives within me Who Helps me be good to myself..and others. He comes as a prompting or a voice.
Religion does play a role in providing basic checks and balances to prevent society from degenerating to complete depravity... The Apostle Paul realised this was the role of the Law which was to act as a "headmaster" for moral grounding(Galatians 3:24-26) until the person came into faith... Ofcourse religion doesn't mean personal relationship as religion has to do with outwardly deeds and relationship has to do with inward transformation...
@@raphaelzorina3051 Religion is all about having a personal relationship with your Creator. Organized, institutionalized "religions" are often merely cults, or even social clubs. Dogma, doctrinaire, ritual, ceremonies, church edifices, wardrobes, formalities, etc. have very little to do with true religion. Being 'Born Again', means one is awakened to the deity living within. Ceremonies and rituals can't do that.
awww...what happened to that other end music with the lady's voice? i like that ending music man:/
This is a ridiculous answer. Question being how do you know they didn't get saved? Well answer short according to the bible salvation is through christ only so if they've never heard of christ they clearly couldn't have gotten saved.
You've got it.. This Frank character doesn't even mention that!
Exactly. He immediately twists the question around and gives a word salad non answer.
The Bible says every knee and every tongue shall confess that he is Lord. If you choose to believe that someone died with out knowing Christ, that’s why you’re human. You’re not omniscient. You have no way of knowing. You’re justifying your doubt with cynicism. “Maybe that secluded tribe never heard about God” says who? They’re secluded. You’d rather believe they didn’t, just because you wholeheartedly believe God doesn’t exist?
Divine hiddeness was one of the biggest things to drive me out of faith. Not just because God is super hidden, but because I asked so many times for Him to reveal himself to me more clearly, nothing happened. So after some studying and researching I thought "Man this is probably all false and I'm just trying to justify God's hiddeness."
Where are you in your faith now?
@@OneBoundMusicHey! Well, that comment was only 6 days ago 😅 I'm pretty much getting more solid in my Agnosticism/Atheism with each passing day. But I keep maintaining an open mind to the idea that I might be wrong.
The thing is Nori that God reveals himself and his intentions with you but not as literally as you might want him to. I'm sure you've heard that God works in such mysterious ways that humans like us could not possibly comprehend therefore he is not going to literally appear in a cloud and talk to you or something along those lines (It is a pretty mundane, human way to think about it). Sometimes he might talk/show himself to you more meaningfully through an event, a situation, a conflicting decision, a person (whether that is a family member, a friend, a coworker, etc), an opportunity, an experience, etc. All these things can be tests to improve/ explore your character to see what you can change or where you can grow. If He was absolutely literal every time with every one and showed his true form, we wouldn't have the capacity to even process it, there'd be no faith involved and most people would believe out of convenience or intimidation rather than true conviction in God.
Just to be clear, I respect the fact that you've taken a more agnostic perspective on this issue (I myself have had doubts sometimes), I'm just trying to present you a different perspective on this in case you have not considered it. Glad you're keeping an open mind on being proven wrong, that is important when having these conversations.
I do accept the idea that if any divine creator exists, it is way beyond my understanding. So it wouldn't probably act as I expected. But if I can be honest with you, the Old Testament shows a God that is rather pretty mundane. But let's not talk about the Old Testament lol, that is rather a extensive topic.
Keep in mind that if God showed himself to humanity more clearly, it would NOT violate people's free will, if he was to limit himself. If that wasn't the case, how would one justify the stories in the bible itself where people saw a pillar of fire, bread falling from heaven, the sea being split in two, and they yet decided not to follow God. So no, if God showed Himself better there would still be room for free will.
Now, you said God could show Himself to me through more subtle ways, in day-to-day life situations. While I understand your point and appreciate your perspective I must say if I'm expected to believe in the Christian God based on noticing the small things, I might never believe in Him. For the one who believes in Allah, everything testifies of Allah to him, when you really believe it, and look for it with belief, it's quite possible you will eventually perceive small things, conversations and situations as coming from your god. Now, what about a supernatural event which is independent of belief?
You know, I always try to keep an open mind that there might be a God. And this God could be an unknown god, or your god. But the thing is, I know quite a bit about the flaws in the Jew faith. Not only that, I also know quite a bit of the problems in the Christian faith too. In order for me to simply deny those evidences against the Jewish/Christian religion and start believing in God I would need much more than just a "Small situation with a coworker."
I'm truly sorry, but I think I could never believe in Christianity again without the Christian God proving me he's real. YHWH is indeed as hidden as Vishnu. Vishnu isn't real, and if YHWH is real, I desperately want to know why He lets people down here be in such a confusion about gods. I mean, according the bible, God will show Himself VERY clearly to everyone in the judgement day. So he hides himself throughout our history and then shows up when there is no longer time to repent?
@@nori_tutor I understand and respect your perspective mate. Thank you for sharing it respectfully. If you want something more grandiose or literal I hope you get it one day like I did.
About the second paragraph, you can see how even when God showed himself people still rejected him, so it shows how us humans have a tendency to sin and be rebellious in most cases, that's why we need Jesus. On your fourth paragraph, the explanation I would give is that it is part of what I mentioned earlier, our rebellious, sinful nature. God even explicitly says "don't worship other gods" to Israel and people still did it. And by other gods I don't mean just the likes of Anubis, Bahal, etc, a god can also be material things or fame, money, a possession, etc (something you give it an exaggerated amount of importance or value more than everything else). People set the confusion themselves when God gave them a way to see things more clearly. Also that "small situation with a coworker" is one of the many ways God speaks, he's also present in more impactful or complex experiences/ decisions/ events.
Could you go in more depth about what do you mean by a "supernatural event independent from belief"?. I apologize if I take long to answer your next response, I have to sleep and do other things lol.
Beat analogy. I've quoted Dr. Turek to atheists before and it's convincing. The truth always is.
Not all the time. Truth is often tossed aside for satisfaction.
Most atheist i meat talk crap about turek
@Eagle Nutrients if so then why does this so called "imaginary" friend affect and change so many peoples lives?
@Eagle Nutrients
Still around? It's funny to see the same people always interested in something they don't believe.
If I believed something didn't exist then I would move on, not keep coming back.
Something has you curious, I wonder what that could be.
@@ltlsWhatltIs I watch these videos because religion affects all of our lives, and I like to understand why people still believe it.
Another thing is God can reveal Himself in peoples dreams no matter where they are
Reveal himself in dreams? Then why does he tell the Mormons one thing and the southern Baptists something else. Why does he reveal one thing to the seven day Adventists an another to the Lutherans? Why does he say one thing to the Jehovah's witnesses and something else to the Greek orthodox? Why does he reveal something to the Christian Scientists and another to the Catholics?
Santa also reveals himself in children's dreams....both hold water to me!
Jeffrey Stern God doesn’t reveal Himself differently to different people. There is a truth and then there is how one interprets the truth. I think the Houston Rockets are the best basketball team, you might think the Miami Heat are the best. The truth is that the Warriors are because they won the championship. Mormons fell to believe in a false prophet who claimed to change the game on the Bible 1800 years after Christ. A quick study will show how messed up that belief is.Jehovah Witness were given a false believe from a man named Charles Taze Russell. They obliterated the Bible with their own version that takes away the Deity of Christ. Muhammad claimed to get some game changer from the angel Gabriel 600 years after Christ so he switched things up and started a cult following. I could keep going and going as Religion is what I study. The truth is that God gave us his word in writing and even warned that there would be false teachers, false doctrines etc. God provides truth but Lucifer is doing all he can to sprinkle falseness in the minds of man. It’s a shame because like the Bible says people give themselves over to their itching ears. Eternity is at stake. And yes, even in mainstream Christianity, different denominations that say tithing is correct or lead people to think that there is something else man needs to do to get on the same page as Christ. The TBN channel that shows “Christian” stuff all day is all false. The world looks at that and thinks that is what God wants. It’s not. The Joel Osteens, the Carl Lentz and all the false preachers out there....man it’s scary. The Bible says “my people perish for the lack of knowledge”. Over 40 authors wrote 66 books over a period of 1,600 years and it all reads as if one person wrote it. There is truth and worth searching for
@@bentonvillefamily Yes.. but you miss a very important point. All the members of all these different denominations all say they have a personal relationship with Jesus. They can't all be right. Either there are thousands of different Jesus Christs running around or there's one.... but he's telling different things to different people. Otherwise... different denominations wouldn't exist. Everyone would be in lock-step belief wise.
Jeffrey Stern I agree with you 100%. Jesus says in Matthew 7:22 “On judgment day many will say to me, 'Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' Notice that Jesus said that they said “in your name”. He warns throughout the Bible that people will follow another Jesus. A Jesus that can’t save them. So yes, I agree with you totally. We even have people alive today who actually claim to be Jesus and people follow that person. Why? Because they follow what their itching ears want to hear instead of studying the Word that God have us.
I think God knew if he went to any other nation He would have been embraced and loved and would have never been crucified. So He had to come into the jewish community to be hated by his own people and be crucified. That is a thought.
No. Lord Christ Jesus came to fulfill the law. The law was established through the children of Israel. The bloodline (Daivid) needed to be established as well.
Another way to interpret the question would be: why people with different background, when they experience a deity, the deity is always the one of the person belief? Should God allow this? Or maybe it is just a post interpretation of a natural mental state?
Well, the first 4 words of the question are good, anyway....
Hello Cross Examination, I'm a Roman Catholic, I have a Question I don't know if anyone may have an answer why did Jesus start his ministry and preaching at such a late time in his life of what I understand it was around when he was 30 years old and he did when he was 33 that was only 3 years to do everything that he wanted to do as a young man if he would of started when he was in his teens he would oh have allot more time to visit more places.
Here's an even more perplexing question. Where was Jesus from age 12 to 30? No mention of him. Wierd.
@@jeffreystern5886 I heard that he just stayed with his parents and work with Joseph as a carpenter.
@@MrAntoniosavelli OK... but this is still God! You mean to suggest that god is just working as a carpenter and the jews notice it and just walk by as though he's just a regular old jew? Are u kidding? So he's born with all this hoopla and fanfare surrounding his birth... and then people just go on as normal even though God is walking around? Are you serious?
@@jeffreystern5886 Wow you took my answer so wrong I did not mean anything bad I don't know if that many people knew who Jesus was at such a young age when he did not go from place to place preaching. again I could be 100% wrong I don't know But please don't take my answer as something bad that was not my intentions I Love Jesus ,Our Lord ,Our Saviour, Our God.
@@MrAntoniosavelli I'm not condemning you. I'm inquiring that given the amount of attention given to his birth... Christ child is born.. wise men show up with gifts... etc. How could jesus (god) be walking around at any age without throngs and thongs and throngs of people AND scribes following him around 24/7 ? There are a few sporadic mentions of him when he was young.... then poof...he's not mentioned at all from ages 12 to 30! How can God be walking around and nobody know it? Then... when he finally does show up again at age 30.. nobody asks him where the hell he's been for 18 years! Something is screwy.
Right, we all have a choice. Either believe in God and Jesus and go to heaven OR be thrown into Hell for eternity. What kind of choice is that? Not quite like choosing your next date. More like a gangster's offer of protection.
It's a medieval threat for medieval idiots....
@RetroMan How is it a warning? I have been created due to no will of my own and I'm responsible for someone else's mistake, did your god create the devil and hell? And according to your beliefs there's going to be a lot of people in torment either someone's got this very wrong and it's a very bad plan why would you want to create knowing the outcome is going to be horrific for the majority or its simply a lie.
@@josephking1947
If a baby die, does he go to Heeaven? Yes
The baby was born with the original sin. It wasn't his fault, and was his only sin.
Now if you are like a baby, and you die, will you go to Heaven?
Probably, but you are not a baby. Therefore you need to repent and accept Jesus Christ as your savior. And follow His path, to get saved.
@Mark L the problem with your statement is that you are seeing hell from the perspective of a Christian. There are many people that would prefer hell over heaven. Hell is described differently from a luciferian. perspective but it is simply the separation from God. Now the choice is up to you where you wanna go. I personally would rather choose heaven but the description of each location is has been defined by Christianity and therefore may not apply to you. My point being that you are contradicting yourself because you refuse God but are using his description of location and fear going to hell.
Jesus gave up a weekend and then got resurrected to live forever. What was sacrificed, exactly? He gave up a weekend to forgive the sins committed by some ancient person
of dubious origin. Wow, that makes sense.
God is everywhere all the time
Blessed are those that dont see but believe cmon man
I feel sad that the less you see, the more you will believe because... it would be too hard for you to accept that you're praying to nothing?
@@MrTheclevercat
Actually
The ones that can see can believe of the things they cannot see
Its all around us
This answer najes no sense. He deliberately reposed the question as a moral one and proceeded to give a word salad response
I think he is assuming that God did reveal himself to the rest of the world but they have chosen not to accept him, and that is where he makes the answer a moral one. I've heard this speech from Frank before, although I am not sure where. I think the question this guy is actually asking is, why is there no other evidence for God's revelation around the world? Why would God only seen to reveal himself to this one corner of the world at this time.
@@TheLunarPierce You've got it. As a matter of fact... The Hindus are older than the jews.
so how should it go? I’m interested for your alternative answer
Just because you do not understand it, does not mean it does not make sence.
He did answer it by saying God reveals Himself to different people at different times in different ways. Some people need one way while others respond to a different way. The universe and nature itself is God revealing himself to all humans yet most people will look at the stars and nature and never ponder a single thought. Jesus performed miracles, prophets told the future and still people were blinded to it
I would like to see you live where are you next does anyone know
The issue here is natural revelation vs special revelation. Romans 1 says all know there is a God, not all know the gospel. Gods purpose of election (Romans 9:11-16,) and has the potter no right over the clay? (Romans 9:19-6) .
God could appear to everyone - and if He wants to save everyone, why can't He do that? What's wrong with God getting His will accomplished? What if he spared everyone the wrath of hell, but allowed everyone to continue to exist otherwise?
Why is that such a nightmare scenario for the evangelical?
I am a black American. My family is Christian. That means that for them to have been "saved," the Christian Europeans had to go to Africa and take slaves to the Americas where they would beat the slaves' African identities out of them and replace them with Christian identities. With that said, you are telling me that God, creator of the entire universe, could think of no better way of communicating with Africa other than this brutal system? That's just one example of the ways Christianity has spread throughout history. Not to mention the crusades, Inquisition, colonization of the Americas, and the Holocaust.
Music by A.D flawless, right?
Music by A.D it’s kinda funny how the 2 biggest religions of the world are also the religions of 2 of the biggest empires in human history. Almost seems like conquering as many people as possible and spreading said religions by the sword might have something to do with how big the religions eventually got. Let’s hope Tom Cruise and his wacky band of weirdos don’t try to conquer the world. Or eventually we’ll have statues of Xenu and Ron L Hubbard’s goofy ass everywhere.
What man meant for evil, God meant for good
Keenan Samuelson what good did god intend to come from instructing his people how and when to keep slaves?
Ah my friend, let us analyze your comment.
1)I am a black American.-- It is unfortunate that you allow your identity to be defined at least in part by the amount of melatonin you possess. You are a human being :) We are all basically the same color just different shades! To me you are beautiful creation worthy of care and respect!~
2) My family is Christian. --Possibly true but irrelevant to anything.
3) That means that for them to have been "saved," the Christian Europeans had to go to Africa .-- nonsense, your family's adoption of christianity could have happened in any number or ways.
4)and take slaves to the Americas where they would beat the slaves' African identities out of them and replace them with Christian identities. -- again utter nonsense, while it may be true it is no way is necessarily true. It is an emotional appeal to illogic. Also many people claim to do things in the name of christianity that clearly does not comport with christianity.
5) you are telling me that God, creator of the entire universe, could think of no better way of communicating with Africa other than this brutal system? --- no one said that. Mankind is sinful, imperfect, rebellious and sometimes evil. Has nothing to do with what God intended. Has to do with what man decided to do.
6) That's just one example of the ways Christianity has spread throughout history. --- conflating christianity with the actions of some of those that claim to be what they are not. it's a red herring and a straw man all in one. Just because I call myself a buick and live in a garage does not make me a car ;)
Some biblical perspective, God divorced himself from humanity after the tower of Babel and assigned lesser gods to rule over humanity. He then started over with Abraham and Israel. This explains why he only revealed himself to such a small number of people/nation.
But I think Peter answers it perfectly for those that don't know the biblical background.
LOL he just opens more questions then answers.
I would love to as Dr frank why is there so much overwhelming evidence and sightings of evil demonic spirits then there are of good spirits i.e angels
Fantastic channel. Love it!
Then why would God create these people who will never hear about Jesus because he knows they will reject him? Does he like that people go to hell?
this guy goes off the beaten path when he really can't answer a question he seems to Kno everything that God would do and thinks then tells ppl not to assume what they would do if they where God his answer makes no sense to this question and he just can't bring himself to say he doesn't know and answers like he got the only facts a real hypocrite and a joke
He absolutely did answer the question, thoroughly at that, if you need it explained to you, just ask.
I'm a Christian but maybe people who reject Jesus don't know Him intimately bc it seems noone could possibly reject Him.
Its an imaginary friend that you have so yeah, most people don't have an intimate relationship with an imaginary friend if they are adults.
Why weren't there other Gods popping up all around the world? They were!
Not everyone will follow until he does place judgment
Love rarely happens right away. If God really existed and actually loved people, he would show himself physically and earn his place in their hearts the same way we humans make friends with one another: through patience, acts of kindness, quality conversations and respect for the other person.
Firstly God is a spirit being. God created original Adam to be his son and to rule the earth with Him. Adam lost both positions because of his choice to listen to satan's lies. Adam got separated from God lost his sonship (became son (slave) of satan), the beginning of death and satan took his authority to rule the earth. We are still living in that scenario.
God made a way for man to get reconciled with him. God manifested in Adam's fallen state (flesh) to restore what Adam has lost, all we need to do is make a choice also. This time the choice is to reject satan and the influence he has over us and to ask Jesus Christ to save us from satan's bondage and to restore us into his image and likeness. Once Jesus resurrect your spirit, it is possible to reconnect with His Spirit and start having a personal relationship with our Father.
God is constantly looking for those who seek him, if you are serious about it, God will reveal himself to you even through other believers to show you the way.
Hope you find Him too.
@@andrevisser7605 Supposedly, God is not confined to the spirit world. He can make physical appearances on Earth, and has many times, according to the Bible. Why has he stopped? Why would a person need to believe in original sin, the resurrection, the Great Flood, or anything else in the Bible, when all God would need to do is knock on your door, perform a few miraculous magic tricks, and you would believe in him on the spot? Obviously, believing that a person is real isn't the same thing as loving them, but hey, its a start.
@@falsexgrindx378, yes God made a few physical appearances in the Bible, the last time his manifestation in flesh (Adam's fallen state) to restore what Adam has lost. His next appearance will be when he come to rule with his sons, the reason why he created Adam in the first place.
God gave man more than enough to point to the way back to him, it is as easy as a choice but he will never force you. To those who make the choice, he is very real, I experience his interaction, guidance and teachings constantly. You are right, you can only love someone who you have a relationship with, that is exactly what God wants, just ask him to reveal himself to you.
God made a way for everyone to get back to him, he manifested as one of us and ultimately died on the cross to free us from satan's bondage, all he ask is for you to choose life and not death...
@@andrevisser7605 These Biblical assertions have no scientific evidence behind them. You can't just believe in something because the Bible says to. You wouldn't jump off a bridge just because the Bible said you should, would you? And even if these things did really happen, maybe they were enough to impress everybody back then, but it's been well over 2000 years since God's last supposed miracle. Everyone who might have seen those miracles is long dead. If God wants to convince anyone of his existence here in the 21st century, then he really ought to show himself and perform some new miracles, instead of merely resting on his laurels.
@@falsexgrindx378, that is what you don't see, God made a way for *everyone* to return to him 2000 years ago. He got a written manual to teach us about him complete with instructions how to have a personal relationship with Him. Those who follow the manual got a daily experience with him...
God makes the rules, He is the creator, if you think you can tell him what to do and how to do it you are making a mistake.
There's an explanation about why Jesus appeared as a human instead of in all of His glory as God that has always helped me. If God had shown up with trumpets ablaze and with all of His power and might, as He will when He comes again, leaving no question that this is God and we should believe in Him, then the whole world would certainly follow Him. But they might not follow Him out of love. They might believe in Him out of fear, out of pride in knowing that God chose them, or in wanting something from Him, but not because they love Him. God is only interested in relationships where we follow Him out of love. So He showed up, small and meek, as one of us, and slowly, as people fell in love with Him for who He was, He revealed that He was the King and Creator of the Universe and if we believed in Him then we would go and live with Him forever in an eternal kingdom. The KIND of relationship we have with God matters; only a relationship of love will do.
All the mental gymnastics you can think of won't explain god not appearing in the world as being too easy of a test. You happen to be passing the "harder" test of believing without evidence, as far as your thinking goes?
@@MrTheclevercat This is a moral objective why didn’t God do it the way you wanted provide an objective moral source that would say that is wrong
@@cameronclark447R etards believe in objective morality.
The bible says when the laws not present God went by their conscious
Excellent job frank!
Absolutely one of the best jobs in the world. Take the money up front for a product that never gets delivered.
@@andrewoliver8930light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouth. Take a guess which one you sound like?
@@robertmitchell5863 Nice insult. However, the point is good. There's lots of religions and religious leaders that need their 10%. The product they sell is a happy afterlife.
No returns, no upset customers.
Best scam ever.
@@andrewoliver8930 there are a lot of people like that in all walks of life, Frank gives no indication of being that type and why do you even care?
@@robertmitchell5863 His job relies on him stretching science and facts to suit his narrative. His salary relies on him being an apologist. He fools people.
I'm for science and reason and honesty. That's why I'm bothered.
How do you they wouldn’t have believed in him anyway? And If anything doesn’t this go against God giving us free will? If he knows they will reject him but he’s not going to give them the evidence anyway then he’s making it so they are set up to fail to begin with, right?
This speaker can not consistently use his Bible and has to sway people using his own fundamental twist on Christianity. There's a youtuber called efdawah that has aot of useful information on his channel.
@@mrtrustilinie thank you for the resource!
Yeah and I think it helps where it says that God is willing that none should perish also it says that he foreknew all that would be saved it would make since even if that would only be one person that Christ would go straight to that one person. Same for a group etc.
To this atheist who asked the question, why did God only present himself to a few people living in the desert and not to more places around the world? Answer: You're talking to someone everyday about Jesus, what makes you think he hasn't revealed himself to you many times throughout your life? It's your choice not to see or believe. As for Jesus, his legend has outlived empires. For the Kingdom of God is like a mustard seed. One man, alone, without the aid of states or armies, stood up against the beliefs of literally the whole world at the time and they murdered him for the trouble. If Jesus wasn't God, you would have never heard of this man as many have made the same claims whose names no one knows nor cares about. Christianity shaped so much of the world, reshaped how we live with one another and how we try to treat one another, it's almost unbelievable that he could make such a massive impact on the world after only 3 years of teaching and you know, having to walk basically everywhere.
And plus, you're talking about him, ain't ya?
If God is true and is infinite how could you possibly understand his methods?
hell isn't just separation from God brother. David said if I make my bed in thou art there. you can't get away from God but Hell is the hot house of firey torment
About the woman who survived Holocaust and rejected Jesus. First - you SURVIVED it. Second: if she is a jew, she might have rejected Jesus because she is a jew.
Third, if not, then listen: if you angry at God for what is happening... you angry that it happened to you (if you're gonna play Mother Teresa and start this "i'm not sorry for me, but for others", for others you are other, so you mean yourself and what happended overall anyway), then WHY, if you believe and expect something of God, WHY are you NOT christian?
Why are you waiting something from Him, but through magic wand and magic helper? And if you're not a christian - what do you EXPECT then? Because how are you going to LET Him be in your life? This is a HUGE logical problem and fallacy here.
If you have in your heart "i would, but i don't know if He is real", then what will you loose to actually believe and ask Him something? But know people, that God CAN answer, but He will 100% answer if you are of Christ - belong to Him, because you applied Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour outloud with your mouth (Romans 10), and that's the only way.
People at that time may be though that there is no God because of this war... wich people themselves did... well again - same logic goes to ANY of these people))) Why are you not christian and if not, what do you expect?
And fourth, if she though that God must sustain the universe in perfect condition - He NEVER, and i mean, NEVER promised any of that. That's what people made up (or catholic or orthodox church have implied). We are separated from God, we are alone withou HIm, on out own.
Acknowledging that, i think it's smart to chose Him and make that decision. Nobody force you, nobody CANNOT force you, and you won't loose anything, why everyone is so scared about it?) This happens in your home, nobody will even know. What will happen? Money will fade away from a prayer? Or that it will actually work?
Thank you for writing that long comment about God, I can tell you put effort into it
@@dickersoncharlie4961 Thank you, God bless.
A friend of mine persisted for years with this girl he liked, and she always said no. One day he went to her house and told her i am gonna move on and never ask you out again. Then she said wait lets go out. They dated for a while, then got married and now they have 2 kids. What i learn from this story is that not all women know what they want, so God uses good men to guide them.
As a Catholic I have to very much disagree with him here. Whenever missionaries would land in places like Japan for example, thousands would convert, often risking their lifes to do that (many japanese christians would end up beeing cruxified). So how can you claim that not a single human beeing would have become christian in Japan if the Lord would have shown himself to them?
Wow, this goes beyond mental gymnastics.
Why didn’t God Appear in Any Places?
Because its imaginary, obviously.
The assumption is that everyone wants to go to heaven… not true 😢
Good answer, and yes alot of people don't wanna hear about hell.
Good news is hell is not real, ... yet.
Fire from God will come and devour the earth and all wickedness on it for the final cleansing.
But it will not last forever, it will last for a period of time.
So anyone asking is my so and so in hell right now?
You can simple state what the bible says.
The bible says, as of right now, no.
gods actually popped up on different parts of the world; norse gods, aztec gods, egyptian gods, hindu gods, etc., and they are spirit beings called elohim (Sons of God) which had the work to usher people to God, but saw it as an opportunity to show their side which confused and broke into many religions. Remember they believe in heaven. Their gods look like animals because the face of those spirit beings look like animals.
I'm still waiting for the answer to the Exodus 21 sanctions for slavery..
it is speaking of indentured servants, the poor and homeless would indenture themselves to a master in order to have a roof over their head and food in their belly.
@Tj White Not the same thing
If God proved his existence to everyone, who in their right mind would reject God? I think you would be intellectually dishonest if you think more people wouldn't come to God if they KNEW He was there. The only argument I can come up with is that God already knows what we would have done if He made his existence as plain as the nose on our face and so it doesn't matter because God knows all alternate realities and our choices in those alternate realities. So it is possible that my atheistic friends would go to Heaven because God knew that if he reveal himself to them, they would repent and follow His ways.
It’s literally not a moral question. It’s a more matter of fact. Why didn’t god reveal himself to others outside the biblical setting. If he did I’m pretty sure people would believe him if he, ya know, preformed a miracle and SHOWED HIS ACTUAL SELF or something akin to that. That would’ve saved more people don’t u think.
If a girl rejects me and I love her enough to leave her alone, I certainly don’t want her burning in hell as punishment.
such a cop out answer, not every question can be answered as "ITS A MORAL QUESTION SO IT DOESNT MATTER"
3:33 that laugh :D
I think the best question to still ask ( I am not taking credit for this ) is .... if Christianity is proven true to you and that God is real .... would you be a Christian and worship God ? .... would you accept the bible ? ..... if there was no cancer , rape , racism , everyone knew God [ insert your reason or reasons here ] ..... whatever your reason is for not believing .... if that thing was false or changed but you still wouldn't be Christian ...... why do you have a reason or complaint for not believing at all ?
I don't know anyone who would not convert with actual evidence. The problem is you guys have asked us this question a million times and not a single atheist has ever been shown god. He has never appeared to anyone to confirm Christianity. So, what is the point of your question? To make it seem like people who don't believe have too high of a standard for evidence because they require evidence at all and you don't?
@@MrTheclevercat it isn't complicated .... if we asked you if christanty and God were proven true to you
.... 100% factual .... would you be a Christian????
If it is about truth with you and that's all that matters .... you would think a atheist would answer yes .
But if there is another reason that matters more to you ... the answer would be no .
If you can disprove God , prove evolution and other things that would have to be true for the Bible to be false ..... I would be a atheist
Franks examples are entertaining at best, but as far as I'm concerned they're not applicable. Why? Because God and humans are not on the same playing field. Meaning come on people, wake up and release that no matter what angle we come at this from there are going to be questions that are left unanswered, unverified and unable to be so, because that's an inherent problem with retrospective analyses. If only we had a time-machine!
NO GOD APPEARED NOWHERE TO NO ONE, BECAUSE NO GOD EXIST
Still doesn't prove that god exists.
Then why wait to send "Jesus". Why didn't "God" send jesus sooner.
To fulfill the prophecies
@@Serre_m7ntre
Thats nice to know...and here I thought "God" wanted to save as many souls as possible ...so lets wait thousands of years. Would have been smarter to have Jesus come down soon after the exile of Adam and Eve.
@@Serre_m7ntre lol thats just sounds so corny
@@Serre_m7ntre not been back since. He said he would, he didn't. A liar or a fraud?
He did not come earlier in order that we might learn faith. “But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith” (Galatians 3:23-24).
God is one without any partners. The cross is pure polytheism!
Jesus in flesh was a *manifestation* of YHWH representing fallen Adam.....
NO It is not a moral question. You changed the question..
Completely agree! This was not a moral question, more a question of....this doesn't make any damn sense! How come an all powerful, all knowing god didn't reveal himself to everybody!?
@maciverandy1 why does every atheist I know say "religion was created to control the masses"? For one, there has never been any evidence to support this claim. Secondly, what would be a reason to control the masses? Would it be to keep people dumbed down? If so then why? Is it to keep people docile and contempt so there won't be any uprising? And thirdly, if religions were created to control the masses, then why are there so many religions that disagree with eachother so much so, that it leads to conflict? Does Chaos=Control in your definition? This statement is a statement with almost no reasoning.
@maciverandy1 First of all you never answered my question. Secondly, Christianity are not people that think they are good, but sinners that are saved through Christ. We all fall short of the glory of God. And as a child, yes the thought was a bit perplexing but that idea never wanted me to reject God or say he doesn't exist. Eventually I became atheist, but then I realized there were flaws in my thinking. I didn't want Christianity to be true because what I was doing went against everything God said. And I WANTED to do it. I eventually came to my senses. But the reality is, after we die, there is an eternity, which side would you want to be on? And to say there is no eternity after we die would be the biggest gamble anyone could make.
Caleb Parke You are completely full of BS! "Eventually I became atheist, but then I realized there were flaws in my thinking. I didn't want Christianity to be true because what I was doing went against everything God said." Said no atheist in the history of the world! Stop lying! People don't become atheist because they are mad at god or because they want to sin! That is BS said by people who misrepresent atheism, just like what you are doing!
This answer is just silly. Basically god cannot reveal itself because then we lose free will. Except that anyone who's read the bible has seen that even after god reveals itself the people are still free to make a decision. Eve knew god existed but she was still able to choose her own path......satan definitely knew god but it still chose its own path. God revealing itself only answers one question....it exists and that's it. Whether a person then chooses to worship that god is another issue altogether.
Jesus Says:
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Matthew 5:8
Do comments get deleted? I had a comment challenging Franks analogy and I'm not seeing it. Figures.....
May Frank live a long life so he would reach the far ends of the world, to preach the gospels
The problem with this argument is if you ever actually get to know people who aren't saved, it takes an unreasonable amount of faith to say better evidence wouldn't save many of them. A religion that couldn't codify that owning other people as beatable transferable property was empathetically ignorant and a shitty option for a social construction, looks man made. Note to this day this has never been codified by a prophet or anything unlike thou shalt not lie or don't eat shellfish. The greatest sin one can commit isn't murder or abuse of kids. No, according to this religion it's skepticism. You can literally be a person who spent most of their life a cold blooded killer and go to heaven, but if you ask too many questions you're damned. Maybe, just maybe, god didn't talk to the aztecs, african tribes, native americans, and so many more (some isolated tribes still to this day) but in fact was localized to an area because christianity was just another man made cult. The "keeps asking you out" thing is a terrible anaogy seeing as none of these people I mentioned through history ever heard of jesus. How is anyone rejecting someone they don't know exists? At least the Mormons had the sense to try and rectify that a bit. Also, why are the stakes all tied up in a short human lifetime? All believers can respond with is god is mysterious or they wholesale make up some fan fiction full of self-contradiction. But to hear people say that they can't understand the nature of god then try and tell everyone the nature of god is not terribly convincing.
This is a ridiculously awful answer “what about the people who never heard the message” “they prolly didn’t want to go to heaven anyway”