Upgrading Your E-bike To Cable/hydraulic Brakes.
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2020
- I decided to change the cable operated calipers on my ENGWE EP-2 e-bike, for a set of Zoom Xtech HB100 ones, as although the original brakes worked fine, they were quite noisy when applied. The squealing was really annoying me. These ones are hydraulic but cable operated, so make the change over pretty easy. I will see how these hold up over time, eventually may go for full hydraulic, but they will need to have the motor cut out switch in the levers.
They are definitely quieter on my bike, and pull up shaper, an all round improvement really.
I think for everyday use, they will perform fine, although I wouldn't recommend them for heavy use where they would get hot. I can't imagine the seals are of the highest quality. But for the price they seem decent.
Zoom Xtech HB100 calipers.
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Bicycle accessories
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20x4.0 Tyres
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Rechargeable air pump
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Link to purchase bike.
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Engwe Official Store.
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I've recently ordered these and they took 15 minutes or less to assemble which was so much easier than I thought it would be the same with threading cables through the housing. What a difference in breaking power. At least my disks are having equal pressing on both sides now. Yehay. Thanks for pointing me to these. 👍😉
Yes well worth the price.
Just installed these brakes, they are awesome! Thanks for the review!
Wish I didn’t wait so long 😁
Yes a really good and cheap upgrade. Small things Engwe could add to the bike without affecting cost really.
I got mine in yesterday. Am very nervous to do it myself, will try following this video, thank you so much for sharing!
Another great video and again so easy to understand the dangers of over tightening the allen screws when tightening.
I did the back one yesterday. Took me an hour and a half and with the help of a neighbor in the end. The wire wasn't good, no nipple on the end, all loose wiring, bought my Engwe used. And at first applied the wrong one, didn't realize they were different, front and back.
Had to cut them off, make it longer, cut off some rubber etc.
Breaking power on the back one is better, not as good as I thought though, thought it would be like on my mtb or something. Still a little bit squeeky when pushed hard, but a lot less.
However I feel proud 🤣🤣🤣
One of these days I will do the front one, and combined I think they will do a good job 🙌🏼✨🎊
Just got mine, took two weeks. Much easier to adjust than the mechanical ones that rely on bending the disc.
Yes, a cheap easy upgrade.
Seems much safer as well!
Great video! I could not find these particular calipers, so I bought the Zoom HB-100...they're pretty much the same. I don't get why they could not just use better brakes to start with.
I've followed you example and changed up everything as you did, it's an excellent guide...and I think everyone with a Engwe EP2-bike should do the same. :)
I've always said the small improvements could be added, at little cost to the manufacturer, and make a real good selling point over others.
engwe does give out hydraulic brakes...after the new generation ..the engwe engine pro got it!
Does the break light still work when you change over the calipers
Thx a lot ❤️
Nice video, thanks. My rear brake is irritating with it's noises too, the only gripe I have with the bike.
The noise really got to me. Check out my other video about changing the freewheel. Another worthwhile upgrade.
@@MidlandBulletRiders Cheers but I don't pedal mine. Why buy a dog and bark yourself?
I have installed these brakes 3 month ago and they are not braking better than original. I have changed pads wires and adjusted them but the brakes are still very hard to operate. It is just not possible to lock the weel never mind how hard you sqeese the handle.
I think the brakes are dimentioned for a light cycle, not for a heavy ebike
Thanks I changed :) they are os om :)
I haven't received my bike yet, but what are your thoughts on adding another motor hub to the front wheels with the battery pack on the rear rack? I've looked on Aliexpress and it looks like it'll cost an additional £600-£700 for a 20 inch front fat tire hub motor (1500W) and 48V 21mAh battery pack.
I don't know anything about using dual motors. maybe someone else will help.
Hi just subscribed to your channel and you have answered most of my let’s say ‘could do with a few improvements on my New Engle ep-2 pro’
I’ve ordered the Zoom seat shocker and now currently looking for the HB-100 hybrid disc brakes . Have you got a link or where to purchase them . 🙏
Well worth doing. There's a link in the description.
hello friend, I'm waiting for this Xtech product to arrive, a question .... to adjust the distance of the pads from the disc (so as not to feel the disc rubbing) on the mechanical brakes you could adjust the distance of the static pad using the lateral screw .... these Xtechs have no adjustments?
A bit late but, leave the caliper loose on the bracket, apply the brake, at the same time tighten the two bolts.
Hello, great video. I'm looking to get the Engine X soon, so I will be upgrading the brakes to these.
You mentioned swapping the brakes from left to right, was it an easy job to do? Did you switch the cables at the brake levers? Possible youtube video? Many thanks. Neil.
Yes I just slackened the cables off to remove them from the levers. Easy enough job, if you're changing the calipers, then the cables will be free then.
@@MidlandBulletRiders Excellent, thank you.
I got a question...i bought these brakes cause of this video. Anyhow after 2 x changed new brake sets now it doesn't stop the bike. Any idea why it is doing this?
Does these brakes actually performs higher braking force? Want to get one but I want to make sure they can perform better! Thanks!
Definitely better braking, but never going to be as good as a full hydraulic system.
Just as a tip if you're out of nipples to crimp on the end of the cable, shrink wrap works just fine. It's just to prevent fraying. I have fancy adhesive lined shrink wrap but it's not necessary. The normal stuff will do in a pinch.
Good tip. I actually bought a bag of metal ones.
@@MidlandBulletRidersI was also thinking since I have a ton of electrical connection crimps maybe I could crimp one on and ground the bike lever to the frame of the bike and run some current to "preheat" the mineral oil for maximum performance! 🙂 Can't wait until tomorrow when I get these calipers, I come from the motorcycling world so if I need to bleed them in the future it looks pretty easy. Try it on a 1978 RD400 then you'll know what real bleeding is about. If won't be your brakes. I will be your sanity.
@@chrissinclair8705 I hate beeding brakes, things never go to plan and I'm always scared of the nipple breaking off !
@@MidlandBulletRiders Don't worry once you screw it all to hell a bunch of times you'll be an expert.
hello, so you had to remove the standard bracket and install the bracket that came with the hydraulic clamps?
Yes.
How are you liking the new brakes? Better stopping power? Are they quiet?
Working great. A cheap and worthwhile upgrade.
Salve, a distanza di 3 anni alla pubblicazione del video, che recensione da a questi freni? Grazie.
Funziona ancora alla grande. pastiglie non ancora sostituite.
Hello, are you still happy with the new brakes? Does it requires smaller move of the handle than mechanical?
Definitely better than the original ones. Quieter and they do grip a little better too. A well worth upgrade.
Don’t hesitate, get them they are huge improvement.
Hi looking at upgrading my brakes as they are terrible and very noisy....Love the videos on your bike...How you finding them now you have had them on a while....?
Had no problems with them. You can of course pay more, but for the price of these I have no complaints.
@@MidlandBulletRiders Hi Thanks for the quick reply...were they a straight swap or did you have to add anything to make them fit... ?
I did have to use the brackets that came with them. other than that, no. A simple upgrade.
Good day to you. I am writing through a translator, mistakes are possible. On my engwe 750 I removed the throttle, it is broken .. The screen gives error 22, but everything works, error 22 just blinks, tried all the options, nothing comes out .. Maybe you have any ideas how to fix it? thanks
Error 22 is a throttle problem. if you have removed it, it will show that error. If you have replaced it, make sure all connections are correct.
Thank you for this video! I for sure will be placing an order! The squealing is terrible on the factory preinstalled brakes.. By the way, my Engwe EP-2 bike came with the worst, cheapest possible suspension fork, that drove me mad. I had to use rubber handlebar grips which I cut with scissors and tighten them up on the pipe .... in order to restrict its movement up and down. Using the grips I tried to make it as a rigid fork, as before that any bump on the road would make me jump up and down with a terrible feeling. I`m not sure if I was able to explain correctly, but if you have the same fork you know what I mean.... so I wonder if you plan or have done anything similar... The other option of course is to purchase an expensive new suspension fork but I`m not ready to spend another 250$ or more on this bike for now...
Did you try adjusting the preload? The black adjuster on the forks.
@@MidlandBulletRiders I just saw your unboxing video. It seems that on the later badges they`ve upgraded the fork. Sad face for me who purchased the bike 6 months ago. My fork does not have a preload. Just rubber caps, and no adjustments whatsoever... I guess I`m only left with riding it with my DIY thingy, or upgrading it
They probably sell the same forks used on Aliexpress.
Which set did you buy because there were several sizes
All HB100 calipers are the same size, and fit the standard disc. They just offer different size discs if needed for something else.
Hello,Thanks for the video, i own ep2 pro and the breaks really don't feel confidant at all, given the weight and power of the bike. I wanted to upgrade the rotor to 180 along with the caliper that you have suggested any idea if it will work with 180mm rotor? and/or is it possible to upgrade to 180mm rotor any one have tried?
Hi! Did you find any solution? I want to upgrade the engine x brakes.
hello my bike leans a lot to the left I think the kickstand is incorrectly adjusted would you know what to do?
If you can't bend it back out, maybe you could get a replacement bolt on one from a bike shop.
Is the throttle for pure electric power just a little section of the handlebar grip to turn ? Is it awkward ?
Yes, it's what's known as a half throttle. It operates really easy and feels comfortable to use. I think they are much better than a thumb throttle.
@@MidlandBulletRiders thanks, ive never experienced one 👍
will these brakes actually give you more braking power?
If set up correctly, yes.
How much is the tax & insurance to make it road legal, as I currently have a 250w 36v 12ah bike, but I'd like a bit more power, so would like to know the extra expense before placing an order.
Thanks
Gary.
I think you'll find that there are a lot of ebikes on the road that aren't 'road legal' It's all about using it sensibly.
@@MidlandBulletRiders Really, I find that surprising, so your saying go for it, "catch me if you can copper". I'm not sure myself, I'll have to see how much the fines are, and if it's worth taking a gamble or not.
Bye the way, I'm enjoying your channel and have subscribed.
High probably know this by now but your bike is street legal it’s a 250w motor so you are ok in the Uk but I think the government are talking about a 500w motor to pedal assist after they done their research on safety. America certain states have an entry level of a 750w motor which I personally feel is the right choice as long as you wear a helmet mandatory .
@@whatsitaboutwithphilcraig6661 Thanks for the reply, but I've since upgraded to a 500v 48v fat tyre bike, and am now looking out for a trike, as age and mobility issues are taking there toll.
Did your breaks rub when you got your bike? If so how did you fix it have tried loads, but they still rub 😳
How you checked to make sure the disc isn't warped? Spin the wheel and look to see if it wobbles.
Also check out this video on how to set up your brakes properly. ua-cam.com/video/Pz58MA1Qe3Y/v-deo.html&feature=emb_logo
How much u paid for that bike??
@@jdmannino68 it's €825 on Gearbest.com now.
@@teun294 £750 give or take on aliexpress delivered depending on exchange rate, mine took 2 months and I got a discount for buying more than one.
Where can I get spare parts for this bike
do they give more braking power? and where can i buy them.
Definitely an improvement. Link in the description.
@@MidlandBulletRiders ok but i have the engwe c20 pro, can those brakes also be mounted there?
and some also say they're crap, so who should i trust
Is it real that they get worst after 600km/360 miles?
Are you happy with these brakes
Yes, been working fine since I fitted them.
@@MidlandBulletRiders thanks
How much were the brakes and where did you purchase them
There's a link in the description.
@@MidlandBulletRiders thanks one more thing is there Cruise control build in at all on bike.
There is an option in the settings to enable it, but as of yet I've not got it to work.
@@MidlandBulletRiders sorry again do you know where you can buy a spare charger
Also on the display screen does it give you what % of battery is left or is it just the bars on top of screen.
Guys im really interested in buying this bike... do tou reccomend me?
Am i doing the right thing? Haha
Yes. But then again I would say that. Seriously, they are a great buy, you wont be disappointed.
Tnx im buying it now :D
Max kmh?
Nice breaks ...but the fact that you get a brand new ebike and you just change such an important part of it ...doesn't sounds nice. I am on a split brain situation there is another Chinese model with 750w motor which I am really wonder over this ...
The only reason I changed them is because they squealed a lot under braking which I found irritating. The original brakes actually work fine, and have no problem in stopping you, it was purely a personal preference. Short term testing has resulted in better braking and definitely quieter. So as yet it's an improvement.
I have the same on mine, , it's nothing much, in fact the front brake has had me on one wheel in the past. I'm changing mine too, it doesn't need it, it's just a small improvement. I couldn't be happier with the bike, and if it was faster I think it could become a bit dangerous. One without fat tyres definitely would be on bad roads. BTW if you work out peak watts on this you'll find it's more than 500 as it is.
stick with these. its just cable over hydraulic and full hydraulic is no benefit at all.. what you have is realy good and more adjustable to how you might like it..