Lectric XP Hydraulic Brake Caliper Upgrade (Zoom Xtech HB-100 brake install)
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2021
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In this video, I demonstrate how to not only upgrade your brakes, but also how to adjust the stock brakes from Lectric.
This Install is probably a 3/10 (easy). Not much to it at all. Just need to know what brackets to use, and a few little tricks (which I've added to this video). I know there are a lot of videos like this out there, but I tried to get some different perspectives and some cool test shots (at the end)!
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Here's a better brake adjustment video:
• How To Adjust Mechanic...
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Just an FYI, I tried installing Zoom HB-100 brakes on my Lectric XP 2.0. They don't work because the spokes rub against the inner cylinder! Just one of the many differences between the two models.
These other tutorials are so confusing, this guy is straight to the point 👌
Thanks! Trying to make it easy for everyone!
You cheeky bastard. Sorry that was my British accent. That little trick for not removing the crimp at the end of the cable was brilliant.
The fact that you found brakes that match your bike is awesome! Great video!!
I really wanted purple, but blue works well too. Thanks!
@@RandyRides I'm pretty sure they have purple on Amazon, I just bought the red & black set for 2 of my e-Bike's, & I swear I saw purple
They have purple bro @@RandyRides
@@Aka.Aka. This video is 3 years old. They didn’t have purple when I made this.
@@RandyRides oh I didn't see that 😱😱😱 but yeah maybe it's time for a brake replacement? 😋😋
Great video!!!!!!! I wish I would have found this about 2 hours ago.
Hell yeah im doing this upgrade soon
Great quality install video 👍🏾
Thanks my man!
Just ordered some as well..great video
Thank you!
Mine were just delivered. This is excellent instruction. Good work.
Thanks 👍🏻
@@RandyRides thanks again. Just put the back brakes on our 2 Lectrics…no problem thanks to your instruction. Tomorrow I’ll put the fronts on (I did the back first, cuz I don’t think my wife has even touched the front brake 😝). The only problem I ran into was that the rack on the 2.0s was in the way of one of the screws, so I had to remove the back brackets to get to them. Best advice…reuse the adjustment housing from the old brakes so I didn’t have to crimp the tips of the cable again.
I'm not sure if it was the brakes and how they match your bike , you detailed installation of them or the music even though it's not my genre or all the above whatever it was it made me subscribe. Really you do good work and a lot of your upgrades I see myself doing. I got my bike 2 weeks ago and loving it.
Awesome! Thanks for the sub!!
There is a pad adjustment screw on the brakes also. it is the small diameter screw that sticks out the bottom. Turn it in one direction and the pads open and the other they close. This makes it so you never have to touch the barrel adjusters again for wear.
Are you talking about the new brakes or the old ones?
@@RandyRides the new brakes. If you follow where the piston is it is at the end of that towards the ground.
There is no screw sticking out of the bottom. U must be dreaming.
@@DJESHGAMING yes there is. Put your glasses on and look again. It is inline with the piston on the cable pull HB100 brakes. Look at the picture at the start of the video and you see the caliper on it's side. On the upper right hand side of the picture you see a silver screw sticking up and that is the pad adjuster when mounted on the bike it will be on the bottom of the caliper. . It is the only way to properly adjust the brake pads since they are not self adjusting. If you use the barrel adjuster you will run out of brake since that will lessen the travel of the arm that is connected to the cable. Again this is for the HB100 brakes not the stock brakes
Do a video on it and explain what you talking about.
Fantastic video! I found that on the 2.0 the front brake hits the spokes. It’s a tighter space. I ordered a couple of six hole disc spacers to push the disc out just a bit.
Thanks! 👍🏻
Hi Bill, newb at this. Having that spoke rubbing issue as well on the 2.0, where can i find 6 hole disc spacers, any suggestions greatly appreciate it! TIA
@@mvf136 I saw some guy just say he just tapped his spokes inward a bit with hammer and it solved it. He said he only had 1 spoke rubbing on his 2.0
@@FriarPop having the same issue guess I’ll start tapping but I think I’m rubbing with more than one spoke
Thanks Randy.
if this is a two year old video. i just bought a Zoom Hydraulic Disc Brake Calipers: HB-100 MTB Bike Brake this is ganna help me allot rather then pay some one else to do it. i wanna learn my self.
That’s why made it
I have these same zoom xtech mechanical & hydraulic actuated brakes and I got amazed at how much better they work compared to my Avid BB7 mechanical brakes. I have a Goped GSR46 gas scooter btw. The main reasons why I wanted to go with these brake calipers is the fact that they're both mechanical and hydraulic without the hassle of having to make custom length hydraulic lines for my Goped scooter also the BB7's only have one piston only so it pushes the pad from one side and these Zoom Xtech have dual pistons which grab the disk evenly and are softer. Although at first they had no stopping power at all!! Till the pads got worn in a bit and now they stop perfectly. The bb7's have I think a bit more stopping power but less modulation but then again I'm still breaking in my new pads on my zoom brakes so time will tell if that changes. Also I thought zoom xtech calipers were cheap Chinese parts but to.my surprise they're actually made in Taiwan,same as the Avid BB7's only cheaper priced! Great install video btw.
Thanks!
Awaiting my Magicycle to arrive (got it on sale for 1299) and was thinking of upgrading to the expensive Bolton/Juintech set, but this seems like a much more reasonable buy.
Pretty good value for money 👍🏻
Great video this upgrade I will eventually do.
Awesome! Hey, I sent you another set of thumb throttles, since yours apparently was lost. 🤷🏼♂️
@@RandyRides Thank you. I like how you showed all the details in your video installing that part. Are these hydraulic brakes you upgraded too?
@@timsomor7999 Yessir
What’s the name of the white camera you have
on your shirt? Seems to do a great job.
I have fully hydraulic brakes and brake tubing/lines on my mtn bike. Do you need 2 fingers to stop FAST or would 1 finger braking work?
I need to get two sets one for my 3.0 and one for my xp lite if it’s compatible.
So this method is definitely a better alternative for switching from the mechanical brakes and not having to do the whole cable thing correct?
Question do you really have to remove to the break nobs at the bottom I do not have extras
Are these brake standard for all bikes with discs. The holes etc are all in the same place?
Are those brakes pre bleed,Or do you need to bleed them?
nice video
Thank you
Hi could you do a video on replacing the brake pads for this model Zoom Xtech HB-100?
Yep. I actually just got a set in the mail a few days ago to do just that. 😉
Great video. I'm surprised you didn't change the rotors to match the color of the calipers. I believe they sell a rotor of blue color that goes with those calipers.
Do you have an opinion to share on that???
Didn’t really have any issues with the rotors, I had issues with the stock brakes.
Will this work with the XP 2.0?
Curious if you have a suggestion. I installed these on my XP 2.0 using the stock rotors. I shimmed the front and that works perfect. The back is well aligned, but really squeals and the rotor gets very hot. I’ve cleaned, sanded and bedded the brakes and it still is super loud. Would new pads help? If so, which pads comes in the caliper as standard? Which would be a good replacement? Any help would be great! Your video made the work super simple!
Maybe a new rotor
Nice video. I just received mine, however, I find braking to be very stiff. I discovered it is due to the actual levers of the calipers that are being pulled by the brake cables being very stiff. Is there any way to sort of 'loosen' this lever without compromising braking power?
If you watch the first minute of my video, I show how to adjust the brakes. Screw the silver screw by the brake lever inward towards the grip. See if that helps. If not, watch how to adjust the brakes. It’s the exact same steps with the factory brakes as it is with the hydraulic ones.
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Anong brand ng stock pad neto?
Is this any better than the zoom db680 mech brakes? Im debating which one i should get.
Ever used them 🤷🏼♂️
I have questions, how do you adjust the brakes, it seems that after adjusting these brakes like mechanical disk brakes it's not working, the stopping power is gone unless I pull the brakes really hard, had like 50miles on them without adjusting, do I have to do any bleeding or replace the pads, any help would be appreciated
Probably need to replace the pads
@@RandyRides I don't think they would get ruined that fast, my mechanical disc brake pads lasted over 800miles
of course my adjustment bolt is a different size. i hate having to remove the cable cap.
Why would you have to remove the cable? Just pull the end-cap off and pull it through, then replace the cap. They’re cheap.
Hi sir nice vid. 😊 btw, is the brake cables can be converted into hydraulic hose?
Not with these brakes
I just bought those brakes and they’re not compatible with the Lectric 3.0 that’s why the guy at the bike shop said it’s not for it. Maybe I can use it for my XP lite.
This is an XP 1.0
@@RandyRides yes I realize that but I’ll see if it fits my XP lite if not I’ll return the brakes.
Is it better then the full hydralic brake system for MTB?
No
My brakes arrived today. Did you use the existing bracket or the ones that came with the new brakes?
The new ones
I showed a picture of the differences between the front and back brakes at 2:30, and they have the new brackets on them.
Your barrel adjuster should've been screwed all the way in when you tightened down the cable clamp. You then back it out to set the tension.
Yes
why is it called hydraulic?
Randy, Can these hydraulic brakes be installed on the Lectric Lite?
I haven’t tried it, but I don’t see why not.
Also , do you still need to use break pads with these?
Yes, same resin brake pads
What song is playing when you go for a ride in this video?
Untamed by Renegade, ...says google.
Great video! What helmet do you use?
Right now I’m using and really liking the Lumos Ultra.
@@RandyRides noted! Which helmet are you wearing in the video? And also wanted to ask , these come with break pads right?
amzn.to/3NASlVa
And yes they come with brake pads.
What cables can use for a replacement for my Letric xp 2.0?
If you install these brakes, you use the stock cables.
@@RandyRides My stock cables snapped
are these calipers serviceable in theirs hydraulic internals?
Yes there are orings and the fluid used is mineral oil they even sell a brake kit for it on amazon
I bought two such brake calipers for my Fiido D2 (whose original brakes are bad). After a month, the rear one stopped working and I replaced it under warranty - unfortunately the replaced one also does not work, and the front one (despite replacing the pads with new ones) brakes very poorly. I believe that such a brake without the expansion tank has no chance to work properly - it just either loses fluid or gets air - generally I throw it in the trash! There are now new brakes, i.e. double-sided, but mechanical, cable-controlled brakes - and it will definitely be better than the Xtech HB100. Never again!
That’s unfortunate. I had really good luck with them when I had them installed, but I don’t think I could ever not use actual hydraulic brakes. They have spoiled me!
Very nicely done! Did you look into upgrading the rotors, any thoughts?
Yeah, I’ll be doing this as well as several other things down the road.
Can you bleed the brakes.
Yes. If you google "proper bleeding of zoom xtech hb100" you should be able to find a guide on how to do that. There's one on Reddit.
After a months of usage i can say they are really good if you don't heat them so much, like in city or contry roads. Problem is when you ride them with 160mm discs in downhill, they will start to heat too much, after pistons won't return to their position, brakes are getting worse and can't pull the lever, until they cool down. If i used them more and more in heat i think they will start to leak.
Change to a better pad
a.aliexpress.com/_mLEkU2P
@@RandyRides i've original shimano ones
@@erenmehmed1950 Not sure what you mean?
Had an issue with the front brake that apparently is to wide and start interfering with the rotation as it makes contact with the spikes. Any suggestions?
Did you loosen the two bolts on the back side, squeeze the brake lever, and align it, as shown in the video?
@@RandyRides yes. My bike is the lectric xp 2.0.
I’m confused. I thought hydraulic brakes used a fluid cable instead of a brake cable?
They are line pulling hydraulic calipers
@@RandyRides yes. After I posted I went and read about them. How are the working?
@@RandyBachmeier They are not bad at all. I just installed another set on another bike. If you do buy them, plan on buying a new set of brake pads. The ones that come with them aren’t the best.
Here’s a link to the brake pads: m.aliexpress.com/item/32857697471.html?gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite
@@RandyRides I also know from experience that if you start losing brake power to lightly sand the disc down to rough it up.
In the photo you stated the rear not the curve, So the not curve bracket is in the rear
It should’ve been “note”
Sorry typo...
You show the rear but in small print you state not the curve
@@rolandgadue4351 I said it was a typo...
“Note the curve”
The only way to fix the typo is to reexport and reupload the video. Not happening.
@@RandyRides got it all on. Used the original brackets that came with the E Bike
Man!
You really have to screw the brake adjustment barrel all the way down. You left it so high up that you cannot adjust it and it is WAY HIGH...
Yeah I actually replaced the brake cable shortly after this video. I’ll be updating this video soon. Putting a set on one of my other bikes.
:D
I tried all of this video and it doesnt work on my 1.0 lololol step thru
Try another bracket 🤷🏼♂️ There are multiple sizes
Bro u should just build your own bike. Lol. I'll probably buy it
I might one day 🤷🏼♂️
That's a 2.0 and u should be specific about that. Because of all these videos I seen, I ordered those same ones for my 3.0 and they don't fit 😒 😑
Actually this is a 1.0 and I can’t be specific about it, when this was the only XP version available at the time that this video was filmed.
You're actually using the cheap hex tool that comes with every chinese scooter ? Buy some tools dude...
Lol I have a ton of tools now. Thanks though.
You do realize how old this video is right? You can read the date, right? This was the very first ebike I owned. I’ve now owned over 25 of them. 👍🏻 Dude…