What's up with Voldo from Soulcalibur?

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @polygon
    @polygon  3 роки тому +2224

    Voldo Appreciation Thread:

  • @Fruckert
    @Fruckert 3 роки тому +1437

    The video glitched and paused for me right after "i like to watch people fight" and it took me a solid minute to realize that patrick staring into the camera completely motionless after that statement wasn't a bit

    • @superrinusblick4222
      @superrinusblick4222 3 роки тому +59

      that happens to me so often. I always think its a weird too long bit

  • @joshuahancock2079
    @joshuahancock2079 3 роки тому +4662

    Voldo does with his whole body what normal Italians only do with their hands.

    • @lukeparsons6305
      @lukeparsons6305 3 роки тому +165

      The Supreme Italian.

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome 3 роки тому +191

      He is what happens when an Italian achieves true perfection at their craft: communication with their body. In fact, he's so good at it that he no longer needs to speak. He can communicate simply through wiggles and waves.

    • @FatherTime89
      @FatherTime89 3 роки тому +42

      That reminds me of a joke. What do you call an Italian with no hands? Mute.

    • @maxxam4665
      @maxxam4665 3 роки тому +5

      'ccocacchio, è vero!

    • @XVINutkabob
      @XVINutkabob 3 роки тому

      Talk?

  • @aeternalslime9670
    @aeternalslime9670 3 роки тому +2647

    q: why is voldo like that
    a: cuz he's just a little guy! look at him go

    • @quesoazul9
      @quesoazul9 3 роки тому +46

      My exact words while watching this video

    • @happy_mask_salesman
      @happy_mask_salesman 3 роки тому +18

      Hahaha is this a Portlandia reference? :P

    • @polygon
      @polygon  3 роки тому +576

      damn this video could've been a lot shorter

    • @CONTRACTOR_SG3
      @CONTRACTOR_SG3 3 роки тому +5

      Lol right they dodging the real question

    • @thumb5225
      @thumb5225 3 роки тому +7

      nah, he’s just Italian.

  • @amberlee4536
    @amberlee4536 3 роки тому +306

    I distinctly remembering maining Voldo in IV and constantly saying "time to spin you like pizza dough"

  • @splitplug
    @splitplug 3 роки тому +455

    "He's just Italian." Comedy gold.

    • @rachelrachel9152
      @rachelrachel9152 2 роки тому +3

      And the way Pat is just genuinely like, ah i see, my bad, is so so funny, he's honestly a great actor

    • @theycallmet3061
      @theycallmet3061 2 роки тому +4

      I'm Italian and I can confirm. We weird af

    • @Ihavehadmanynames7779
      @Ihavehadmanynames7779 2 роки тому

      I was 100% sure he was egyptian my mind is blown right now.

  • @davidwave4
    @davidwave4 3 роки тому +1128

    Funny, "[h]e's haunted us since he first wriggled into our lives in 1995" is exactly what my parents say about me too.

  • @thefinalflower
    @thefinalflower 3 роки тому +1159

    Voldo's outfits are culturally important, and as an Italian, I should be allowed to wear them at work.

    • @ZijnShayatanica
      @ZijnShayatanica 3 роки тому +85

      Performing any work-related tasks successfully with claws & obstructed vision should be immediately rewarded with a promotion.

    • @jhsrt985
      @jhsrt985 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂👌

    • @CereDulce37
      @CereDulce37 3 роки тому +3

      🥵🥵🥵

    • @everyojaniromerosifuentes5612
      @everyojaniromerosifuentes5612 3 роки тому +2

      That's hot, eso es caliente cariño 🔥

    • @Astaroth1-i5m
      @Astaroth1-i5m 3 роки тому +7

      As an Italian too, i think that unless you work in a circus, you will be fired immediately.

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh 3 роки тому +672

    "Slither like a Snake, Walk like a Crab" - Voldo, probably

    • @TheSylvirr
      @TheSylvirr 3 роки тому +26

      Slither like Snek, Walk like Crab, STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB aaaannd twirl. Perfect. Bow.

    • @gerrit8480
      @gerrit8480 3 роки тому +7

      Don't forget the backwards spider crawl

    • @Astaroth1-i5m
      @Astaroth1-i5m 3 роки тому

      Climb on your back like a spider and pierce your throat.

    • @abeklein7815
      @abeklein7815 3 роки тому

      Translated from "SSSSSSRIEOMGOERMGKLERMGSSSSSOIRFDFKLMGSSS"

    • @princetriton1308
      @princetriton1308 3 роки тому

      Ffs 🤣🤣🤣

  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest 3 роки тому +238

    This is actually fascinating, and a lot more thought-provoking than I expected when I clicked on the video. It has never occurred to me that _gracefulness_ in _martial arts_ - of all things - could be viewed as unmanly or "gay."

  • @chalkish4855
    @chalkish4855 3 роки тому +392

    "Graceful leathery little man" is now my transition goal

    • @prestonbruchmiller497
      @prestonbruchmiller497 3 роки тому +11

      Good luck

    • @Reasonable_Fun_6709
      @Reasonable_Fun_6709 2 роки тому +3

      Did you achieve it?

    • @chalkish4855
      @chalkish4855 2 роки тому +13

      @@Reasonable_Fun_6709 not quite enough leather yet, but there on the rest!

    • @vice.nor.virtue
      @vice.nor.virtue 2 роки тому +3

      That's literally a perfect description for me and I'm quite happy this way must say

    • @polerin
      @polerin Рік тому +1

      Keep at it :D

  • @mvwinf
    @mvwinf 3 роки тому +984

    I have no idea what Voldo is, but I knew this video would be Pat’s because when I read the notification, I could hear Pat in my mind with perfect clarity saying the word “Voldo”

    • @D_ytAcct
      @D_ytAcct 3 роки тому +5

      Ditto 😂

    • @noahmorris1015
      @noahmorris1015 3 роки тому +7

      you had a premonition!

    • @SeventhEve
      @SeventhEve 3 роки тому +4

      I also played the "I bet this is a Pat video" game and won xD

    • @0.-.0
      @0.-.0 3 роки тому

      I love this

    • @jackroberts2704
      @jackroberts2704 3 роки тому

      I'm sorry you hadn't heard about Voldo sooner!

  • @Psysium
    @Psysium 3 роки тому +958

    When you're comfortable being you, life is better. Societal constructs be damned!

    • @JP-sd7di
      @JP-sd7di 3 роки тому +4

      Gender isn’t a societal construct.

    • @seanbutterfield1
      @seanbutterfield1 3 роки тому +22

      @@JP-sd7di lol okay I'll bite, what is it then, and how does your understanding of it allow you to explain Voldo?

    • @justjoshingwithu5024
      @justjoshingwithu5024 3 роки тому +2

      @@seanbutterfield1 replying cause I wanna see where this goes

    • @JP-sd7di
      @JP-sd7di 3 роки тому +5

      @@seanbutterfield1
      In this context, a synonym for “sex.”
      I haven’t played Soul Calibur in a long time, but Voldo always just seemed like a weirdo to me.

    • @VacuitysBane
      @VacuitysBane 3 роки тому +24

      ​@@JP-sd7di It's okay, it can make anyone scared looking at the world in its fullness, it happens, so you go and reduce things down into something simple and familiar you can work with. But rather than arguing for other people to join you and think less about things too, I hope you just accept yourself for the things within you that maybe also aren't so simple. If you like things as they are, liberation from gender norms cuts both ways, in that no one else gets to decide for you your role in the world, or what you desire

  • @aimelle3
    @aimelle3 3 роки тому +945

    "Get absolutely wrecked, Hemingway"
    Is Simone OK? Is she still on speaking terms with Patrick?

    • @archivingjsstreams3454
      @archivingjsstreams3454 3 роки тому +104

      she had to edit this video and i just know it pained her

    • @Chatedh
      @Chatedh 3 роки тому +294

      Am pretty sure Simone was the one who wrote that joke.

    • @lmeeken
      @lmeeken 3 роки тому +21

      That she provided a voiceover for the video just seconds before that epic Hemingway slam definitely have me some pause.

    • @BuddhaMonkey7
      @BuddhaMonkey7 3 роки тому +2

      A fun fact is that Hemingway was almost definitely trans.

  • @Fl0wy
    @Fl0wy 3 роки тому +140

    "Is he... You know?"
    I'm dead

    • @CAMBSLC
      @CAMBSLC 6 місяців тому

      Same! 😂😂

  • @whatthebeardoin3160
    @whatthebeardoin3160 3 роки тому +233

    This video is about Voldo and while I love the analysis, towards the end you start going into popular fighting game leads and I just wanna give a piece about Ryu, who meant a lot to be growing up, even now as a gay man.
    Ryu is always written as someone who seeks deep personal answers to troubles within his heart, troubles that stem from rage and hatred, by walking the path of the warrior without seeking harm. In his first tournament he was going to lose to Sagat, and got so angry he permanently scarred Sagat.
    He seeks to fight as a method of cleansing the spirit, a deeply rooted Asian concept, which isn't even strictly speaking masculine.
    Ryu serves as a solid fighting game role model because Ryu does not seek to hurt anybody, he just wants to find peace and fighting is what he loves. The only character who rejects this road is Akuma, who wants Ryu to seek a path of toxicity and hatred for everyone, which Ryu rejects even if he doesn't win the fight.
    In a world where no male characters are mean to Ryu, he is still himself, this is who he is and this is why he fights.
    He is seeking penance and inner peace from his own mistakes early in life, and doing it through testing his limits against others is just how he goes about it.
    Change the testing of limits to academics or a particular skill, and it doesn't become about strength it becomes about conviction and fortitude, things that anyone of any gender can aspire to.
    Ryu walks his road because it heals him, and it's what he loves most.
    In high school I really took a liking to Ryu and what he stood for, power without malice, strength without abuse, and walking one's own path without hesitation, even if you're not going to win.

    • @Therathmataz
      @Therathmataz 3 роки тому +14

      Didn't know that about Ryu's character but damn, that's powerful.

    • @kanukulgood
      @kanukulgood 2 роки тому +8

      Oh wow, what a wonderful description!

    • @WONDERGU
      @WONDERGU 2 роки тому +3

      I know, they did so well describing this. I didn’t even know most of the ish they had said ryu went through, I did always thought he was a character just willing to fight anyone because he has his own path of course without reason, but now knowing that’s not true is kinda crazy and completely changed my perspective of Ryu. Thank you so much actually.

    • @adoboFosho
      @adoboFosho 2 роки тому +2

      Weird I'm asian didn't know fighting cleans the spirit

    • @gwen9939
      @gwen9939 2 роки тому +4

      The issue with Ryu in this context is specifically in regards to his demeanor. He loves fighting if we read his lore but when we watch him fight his style is a straight path to victory. He's efficient and precise, and constant under self-scrutiny regarding his own performance. There's no self-expression that signals freedom or loving what he's in the act of doing, just the stoic exterior and some written lines about "the warrior spirit". He's a fantasy of stoicism and self-improvement as a path to it, which is also fundamentally kind of self-centered.
      "In high school I really took a liking to Ryu and what he stood for, power without malice, strength without abuse, and walking one's own path without hesitation, even if you're not going to win."
      This line basically reads like a fantasy to strive towards from the whole "Men Who Go Their Own Way" reddit philosophy, a place that is notoriously situated as being very pro- toxic masculinity, and are in fact not going their own way but instead an echo chamber of "free thinkers" who define themselves by what they oppose(women and women's voices), not what they stand for. I'm not saying Ryu is part of these losers, just that he's similar to the symbols they use.
      This isn't meant as a condemnation as Ryu as a character either. His positive traits are still positive and anyone who likes the character doesn't have to answer to any shortcomings he has, only that in this context he's part of a larger roster of very similar male fighting game characters, and it's interesting to explore the cultural waves that made him very reminiscent of traditional masculine idealism rather than someone who smiles, dances around and tries to have fun while fighting, something he claims to love.

  • @SgtByrd93
    @SgtByrd93 3 роки тому +496

    "is he....y'know"
    Yes Pat we know, from the moment I first played Soul Caliber 2 that was my first question 🤣

    • @SanityVideo
      @SanityVideo 3 роки тому +148

      Yeah, he's pretty Italian.

    • @chrismanuel9768
      @chrismanuel9768 3 роки тому +121

      I mean he's in love with his master and fights to protect his legacy long after his death so like... he's either... you know... or they were like... roommates.

    • @marunalister5597
      @marunalister5597 3 роки тому +217

      @@chrismanuel9768 Oh my god, they were Tombmates.

    • @yungjoemighty879
      @yungjoemighty879 3 роки тому +26

      @@marunalister5597 clap clap clap

    • @taytsay1
      @taytsay1 3 роки тому +10

      @@chrismanuel9768 My god, they were roommates

  • @SirFerrickWanderer
    @SirFerrickWanderer 3 роки тому +624

    Can I just say, talking about being critically compared to a praying mantis in a video about fighting is hilarious, there's very few living beings out there that can wreck shop like those little dudes do.

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 3 роки тому +28

      Fairly sure there was a kung fu style named after praying mantises too

    • @tamijo-
      @tamijo- 3 роки тому +2

      @@npc6817 Is that Tiger style?

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 3 роки тому +2

      @@tamijo- bruh I just said "named after mantises"

    • @tamijo-
      @tamijo- 3 роки тому +2

      @@npc6817 imagine jokes

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 3 роки тому +2

      @@tamijo- my bad, I wooooshed myself

  • @joearellano6541
    @joearellano6541 3 роки тому +291

    As someone who picked Voldo as a kid this makes so much sense in hindsight

    • @sieltan5618
      @sieltan5618 3 роки тому +57

      theory: a disproportionate number of boys who grew up liking voldo and archery and elves and falcons out of a deep desire to see graceful small things defeat large powerful things are now not straight or not boys

    • @robinm7079
      @robinm7079 3 роки тому +81

      Is that when you first realised you were Italian?

    • @joearellano6541
      @joearellano6541 3 роки тому +13

      @@robinm7079 lol body rolls and slithers on the floor in Mexican…..yes ;)

    • @Void-Lizard
      @Void-Lizard 3 роки тому +26

      I picked him when I first started because he was weird and different and wiggly and then I turned into a cursed trans furry goth pyro main. I feel like that's the normal path a Voldo player takes as a kid, you know?

    • @devforfun5618
      @devforfun5618 3 роки тому +10

      @@sieltan5618 im still straight, but totally cool playing support characters and making my characters the shortest possible in character creators

  • @omu6740
    @omu6740 3 роки тому +63

    voldo used to scare me so much as a kid, he always motivated me to finish the battles as quick as possible. now that i’m older, i seriously appreciate how absolutely sick his design and fighting style is, truly an icon

  • @miri4422
    @miri4422 3 роки тому +438

    "the stoic idea of masculinity is bullshit" and "get absolutely wrecked hemingway" are two incredibly powerful sentences, and to have them appear in the same video, consecutively, said by the one and only Pat Gill, is the kind of cataclysmic moment of power only polygon can provide.

    • @miri4422
      @miri4422 3 роки тому +15

      @@ponderingspirit "does this read like toxic masculinity"...well, that comment did

    • @NightWing1800
      @NightWing1800 3 роки тому +29

      @@ponderingspirit Words can have more than one meaning. Stoicism, the philosophy, isn't really what people talk about when they say being stoic is a feature of toxic masculinity. They mean in the sense that men are pushed to not be too emotional because crying, being emotionally vulnerable, being very physically animated when you're happy or just in general, or getting offended from verbal abuse is seen as feminine traits. There's an idea that being a man means that you don't care what people say, you don't get sad, you only operate based on cold hard reason and fact, and don't sit down and talk your problems out. And that's just not realistic to live up to and trying is definitely self destructive behavior.

    • @gaymansupreme
      @gaymansupreme 2 роки тому

      >get wrecked Hemingway
      Virgin Polygon Writer vs Chad Hemingway Believer

    • @isaacburrows8405
      @isaacburrows8405 Рік тому

      ​@science_bearhe had the balls to end it, unlike this guy

  • @jetwavez
    @jetwavez 3 роки тому +1465

    just learned more about early gay culture and subversions of masculinity in an internet video about a quirky little guy than i ever did in 22 years in the american school system genuinely thank you pat

    • @rachael501
      @rachael501 3 роки тому +37

      if you have the time and inclination Paris is Burning is great if you haven't seen it

    • @Sammit00
      @Sammit00 3 роки тому +31

      Another fun fact: the leather scene has its own pride flag (in part because it has such an old and vibrant link with the LGBTQ+ community) and it’s cool af

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 роки тому +20

      Schools really need to let kids engage with modern media for their projects. I am positive some kid would have analyzed Voldo for an assignment on subersive characters at some point.

    • @dhoffnun
      @dhoffnun 3 роки тому +7

      I think I also understand Jim Sterling's thing with wrestling a little more clearly now.

    • @garygrinkevich6971
      @garygrinkevich6971 3 роки тому +3

      Your comment has slightly redeemed my faith in the gaming community, thank you for sharing.

  • @gudebro2000
    @gudebro2000 3 роки тому +103

    Did I just watch 15 minutes on voldo?!
    You deserve a raise.

  • @TheTricky227
    @TheTricky227 3 роки тому +93

    "Eldritch Leather Daddy" A phrase I didn't know I needed in my life

  • @andymcnamar2339
    @andymcnamar2339 3 роки тому +120

    i gotta say i really appreciate theuse of the dril "this whole thing smacks of gender" tweet

  • @JackSassyPants
    @JackSassyPants 3 роки тому +642

    As a gay who has had to deal with ridiculous policing of my movement for my whole life I feel this big time. Now to start on a Voldo cosplay...

    • @alecweiker
      @alecweiker 3 роки тому +38

      As a cis male, I’d be down for some Voldo cosplay too. Alternate skins?

    • @spore9428
      @spore9428 3 роки тому +42

      I might pay money to see someone who can move like Voldo

    • @EsabelleRyngin
      @EsabelleRyngin 3 роки тому +8

      Good luck and good speed to you!! He has so many awesome costumes!

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 роки тому +11

      @@spore9428 Just gotta wax the bottom of your shoes so you can slip in place like he does.

    • @---we1ok
      @---we1ok 3 роки тому +15

      @@haruhirogrimgar6047 Might need to wax a lot more than your shoes.

  • @madsstokes
    @madsstokes 3 роки тому +405

    My sweet little sharp fluid fighting boy

    • @superrinusblick4222
      @superrinusblick4222 3 роки тому +31

      he is like a human beyblade

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 3 роки тому +10

      @@superrinusblick4222 I literally heard that in Griffin McElroy's voice in my brain! And not, like, I've read it and then imagine Griffin saying it, from the moment I started reading the sentence it just materialized in my mind in his voice, that's _WILD._

  • @coteof7055
    @coteof7055 3 роки тому +32

    my favorite Voldo Fact is that he was one of the only soul edge/soul calibur characters that had no motion capture done for them because nobody in the studio thought an actual person could move Like That, and that was the case until like SC3 when the producers saw video of a guy doing Voldo moves in a dance set and hired him on the spot for MoCap work.

  • @kylekyle4169
    @kylekyle4169 3 роки тому +757

    as a gay person I did definitely start crying watching this, specifically when he started talking about gay men's subcultures. I can't handle being respected like this lol

    • @rmdesignpr5296
      @rmdesignpr5296 3 роки тому +38

      I respect you, bro.

    • @adoboFosho
      @adoboFosho 2 роки тому

      Yea u get pride month when asians only got respected just recently..heard they hit on asian guys at hs now 🤣

    • @alpacamale2909
      @alpacamale2909 2 роки тому +5

      jesuschrist

    • @bearsleethere6996
      @bearsleethere6996 Рік тому

      You'll handle whatever Daddy gives you, little worm 🪱

    • @Cleric_al
      @Cleric_al Рік тому

      😂

  • @LCTesla
    @LCTesla 3 роки тому +46

    in some ways Voldo's movements are actually more straightforward and efficient than those of the more traditional masculine fighters. for example he is one of the few fighters who can attack directly from prone position without raising himself up, or crawl while attacking. just goes to show that the confines to movements masculinity places upon itself aren't always in service of "what works best".

    • @rushi5638
      @rushi5638 3 роки тому +18

      Not to be that guy, because you're totally right as far as Soul Calibur is concerned, but like... all the fighting styles in the game exist on a spectrum from staid "realistic" moves to wild ass fantasy moves, and Voldo crab walking his way to victory is very very much on the wild ass fantasy end of the spectrum. Like I don't think you can credit Yoshimitsu for having the temerity to embrace the use of his katana as a helicopter blade for floating, you know? If hovering in mid-air by spinning your katana like a helicopter blade worked, I assure you dudes would be doing it. The limiting factor here is not (necessarily) toxic masculinity. :p

  • @DubiousConsumption
    @DubiousConsumption 3 роки тому +266

    Dude. I'm creating a two hour deep dive on Hellraiser. I was not prepared to see it show up here, hah!

    • @beckstheimpatient4135
      @beckstheimpatient4135 3 роки тому +10

      Step 1: saw your comment Step 2: clicked channel out of curiosity Step 3: watching the Hansel and Gretel video because goddamn, I grew up on uncensored Grimm's tales and I love deep dives into their horror.

    • @DubiousConsumption
      @DubiousConsumption 3 роки тому +3

      @Nosferatu I've got a partial version under Cenobitic Ramblings. It was the first part of a maybe thirty minute video, but I've reworked it and fleshed it out since.
      My Gretel & Hansel vid is a better indicator of my current quality but you at least get a preview of what I'm going to be talking about.

  • @ethan-loves
    @ethan-loves 3 роки тому +421

    This is video game journalism at its best - it looks at an unusual artistic choice by game designers, grounds it in real-world context, and leaves the audience knowing more not just about the game, but about the world they inhabit. Personally, it deepened my understanding and broadened my expectations of gender expression. Thank you for that, and great job creating it.

    • @AlephCasara
      @AlephCasara 3 роки тому +6

      Except that it is not. He says things that are not True just tô fit into his narrative. Like the leather scene started by judas priest. Yes halford is gay, but it was very taboo in the metal scene and He didnt came out untill 1998, and the band started in 1969! He is just making stuff up for people who do not know the real history. This video is shamefull.

    • @chadchavez3251
      @chadchavez3251 3 роки тому +24

      @@AlephCasara he didn’t say the leather scene “started” with JP, just that halford was aware of what it was when he adopted it, and he popularized it among a crowd who wasn’t Interested in it prior.

    • @thebluelion3337
      @thebluelion3337 3 роки тому +12

      @@AlephCasara Nothing in the video even contradicts what you're saying, and even if it did, the central thrust of the video is to compare Voldo's weirdness against the traditional notions of masculine fighters. If anything it's your comment that is shameful.

    • @AlephCasara
      @AlephCasara 3 роки тому +3

      @@thebluelion3337 thank you for the right Word for voldo. Voldo is not gracefull. Voldo does not embrace Grace. Voldo embraces weirdness, He is disgusting in a lot of aspects. And believe im a Man who has spent half my life with people on the stress thinking i was a girl, i know and that didnt keep me from being a heterossexual Man. The vídeo is just a very cringy compilation of things that he uses to create a narrative that fits his agenda of masculinity. Its just bad. And it comes from the weird guy in town who went tô arts College, has more than 2 Princess desses in his closet and has been in more fights than it is worth counting. I didnt know this guy before, but oh my god he is bad at what he does.

    • @thebluelion3337
      @thebluelion3337 3 роки тому +2

      @@AlephCasara I apologise for calling your comment shameful, and on second thoughts I agree that there are some bad takes in the video, however I do think that this was a sincere attempt at an opinion piece rather than the millionth video on PS5 or Dark Souls and you might be being a bit harsh on the dude. I hope you're doing better now mate. Cheers

  • @axolotlsarecute4785
    @axolotlsarecute4785 3 роки тому +164

    I was wondering how Simone felt about the defeat of Earnest Hemmingway by Voldo, then I saw she edited the video and the plot thickened

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam 3 роки тому +2

      I just went through this exact rollercoaster of emotions and I'm glad someone else noticed it lol

    • @markcampos2735
      @markcampos2735 3 роки тому +1

      Question is this a randy feltface reference

  • @severlst2293
    @severlst2293 3 роки тому +63

    I’m going to start telling my friends I admire their grace.

  • @milesbrown2261
    @milesbrown2261 2 роки тому +41

    watching this makes me want more graceful "effeminate" or otherwise just more expressive fighting styles in games and movies. Imagine a dark souls boss that looks like knight artorias but moves like the dancer of the boreal valley.

  • @brianorville5053
    @brianorville5053 3 роки тому +80

    Man, I love how Pat does his job.
    I was never into sports and also tend to lose a lot in fightings, but man, I am absolutely captivated by these videos.
    Thank you!

  • @Wipomatic
    @Wipomatic 3 роки тому +132

    I love this long wriggly man who is hypnotic to watch move across the screen. Voldo is cool too.

  • @cocoapurple1376
    @cocoapurple1376 3 роки тому +51

    I like the idea of men being able to express themselves anyway they want without being linked to, or explained by, their sexuality.

  • @Somtaw420
    @Somtaw420 3 роки тому +8

    This video was a far deeper and more interesting dive than I expected coming in. I thought it was going to be a lore video, not actually something with insight and history. Well done.

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter 3 роки тому +27

    In the Dreamcast version of Soul Calibur, you could unlock a mode where you could mix-and-match the characters' animations with their meshes. it was always oddly unsettling to apply Voldo's animations to any of the other male characters.

  • @abbycaldwell3166
    @abbycaldwell3166 3 роки тому +37

    I gotta say from personal experience, the guys who ballet are hella strong. Being able to lift other dancers over their heads and do bigger leaps than anyone else while still moving across the stage gracefully is a ton of work. The guys I know who do ballet are amazing athletes all around.

    • @Foxxie0kun
      @Foxxie0kun 3 роки тому +4

      A lot of people think that the arms/hands are the only means of hitting someone in combat, but a boot to the head can deliver a lot of force, especially if you crack them in the temple with your heel with a spinning kick.
      Footwork is essential both for positioning in offense and defense, as well as maneuvering in ways your opponent is less able to defend against. If your opponent is large and bulky, or they favor keeping one side toward you, you can exploit that by constantly moving toward their blind spot/back faster than they can turn, and if they're using time to turn, that's time and effort they're NOT using to try and strike, close or create distance, or keep their stance.
      I feel like kicking-based fighters aren't very commonly male/masculine-presenting, meanwhile there's a lot of female/feminine-presenting fighters in games that primarily kick to attack. Chun-Li is one example. I know there were a few Taekwondo based fighters in King of Fighters who were both male and used mostly kicks, but those are exceptions to prove the rule.

  • @MrGreyWolfAlpha
    @MrGreyWolfAlpha 3 роки тому +29

    Polygon truly are on another level. So many amazing writers create wonderful and insightful looks into the world of video games and beyond, and also naming cute little guys

  • @beretperson
    @beretperson 3 роки тому +88

    This explains so much about that one summer when I was a kid and we went to a hotel that had a playstation and I became obsessed with Voldo and Cervantes.

    • @beretperson
      @beretperson 3 роки тому +31

      (if you're wondering what's up with Cervantes: he's just Spanish)

    • @chrismanuel9768
      @chrismanuel9768 3 роки тому +12

      Cervantes is a Chad though. I'd let him gut me

    • @twoheadedchicken7904
      @twoheadedchicken7904 3 роки тому +1

      hmm same but with voldo and ivy

  • @nerdsician3719
    @nerdsician3719 3 роки тому +11

    "So graceful and smooth"
    *literally pelvic thrusts his opponent*

  • @_Glamor
    @_Glamor 3 роки тому +17

    I love Voldo, ever since I picked up SC3 years ago. He's so different, weird, and creepy. His BDSM look and his mantis/spider-like fighting moves that look like he dislocated his joints doing it, and his muffled hisses and moans. Love his character, he's so cool.

  • @momoakidzuki8380
    @momoakidzuki8380 3 роки тому +69

    Genki Sudo did fights, dance, and now even a part of the Japanese Parliament. Mans really doing everything he wants.

  • @AlexSinclair
    @AlexSinclair 3 роки тому +108

    I love that Polygon let their writers go deep on their passions like this. The love comes through, which is why I click on the stuff no matter what the topic. I don't care about UFC or wrestling, and I've never played Soul Calibur, but this was a good watch!

  • @internetlurkerr
    @internetlurkerr 3 роки тому +297

    “Get absolutely wrecked, Hemingway” is such a gut-punching line omg.

    • @DannoHung
      @DannoHung 3 роки тому +21

      Why would Pat do this to Simone?

    • @mog1755
      @mog1755 3 роки тому +12

      And after she did the voice over work for this video...

    • @yungjoemighty879
      @yungjoemighty879 3 роки тому

      god hemingway sucks

  • @Steppin2theAM
    @Steppin2theAM 3 роки тому +8

    Loved this.
    Imagine, Voldo”s loyal isolation, keeps him unmeasured, unbothered and uncriticized. His garb denotes a context of being. Connected within himself in a way that observation and conversation couldn’t complete him.
    There’s a message in there.

  • @enkidude
    @enkidude 3 роки тому +10

    I love the contorted, selfless artistry of voldo. Restrained and unrestrained. The most deadly revenant-phantomime-spider-wyrm to the unobtainable hoarde.
    Being creative in body mechanics and fighting isn't easy at all, voldo seriously stands out and I've always been amazed at how creative soul calibur has continued to be, extremely creative weapons, armors, and styles

  • @ianmcneely2446
    @ianmcneely2446 3 роки тому +19

    I often ask myself this question. It keeps me awake at night. I have not been able to sleep since I first saw Voldo, at 2AM this morning

  • @ionamorwenna5564
    @ionamorwenna5564 3 роки тому +96

    I love my italian middle-aged dancing snake-y man with more breathing problems than Darth Vader.

  • @elbandzioro
    @elbandzioro 3 роки тому +93

    He moves like he left his skeleton in the house

    • @Srcsqwrn
      @Srcsqwrn 3 роки тому +10

      Where we're going we don't need no Skeleton!

    • @ThatGenericPyro
      @ThatGenericPyro 3 роки тому +2

      ...Wait: Was *he* Medic's patient?

  • @CorderralLewis
    @CorderralLewis 3 роки тому +10

    “Eldridge leather daddy” never thought I’d hear those words together in that order yet…

  • @Lcfrdrck
    @Lcfrdrck 11 місяців тому +2

    I didn’t expect this deep dive on Voldo from soulcalibur to make me emotional

  • @jamesnorman2428
    @jamesnorman2428 3 роки тому +241

    I appreciate something that Pat subtly does here that I have been seeing more and noticing I’ve needed more. This video both rejects the masculinity of pure violence, while both offering other versions of masculinity and not rejecting the idea of sport. To me Pat is clearly making a pro-social masculinity stance, as much as an anti-toxic masculinity stance.

    • @Laneous14
      @Laneous14 3 роки тому +1

      Since the later books turn Geralt into one of the most boring, impotent, and pathetic characters I would say that's a perfect subversion of the toxic masculinity of having a hero who is capable, skilled, and engaging to read about. They really fixed him up good.

    • @Chettstankly
      @Chettstankly 3 роки тому +1

      This guy Pat is mad he is not more physically apt for sports so he uses words like hyper-masculine GateKeeper😓😓😓🤦🤦🤦

    • @fredricchopin3968
      @fredricchopin3968 3 роки тому

      @@Chettstankly sure kid.

    • @Chettstankly
      @Chettstankly 3 роки тому

      @@fredricchopin3968 you must be one of those weak bodies to , watch who your calling kid. Son

    • @fredricchopin3968
      @fredricchopin3968 3 роки тому

      @@Chettstankly if only you knew who you were talking to, kid. I can smell your weakness (physical, mental, and emotional) from here. It's hilarious and pathetic all at once.

  • @J.Applejuice
    @J.Applejuice 3 роки тому +53

    Voldo is Voldo. If you stare at your ceiling in the middle of the night. Voldo will be up there.

    • @Parodox306
      @Parodox306 3 роки тому +7

      Pretty sure that's just a ceiling fan.

    • @J.Applejuice
      @J.Applejuice 3 роки тому +12

      @@Parodox306 Are you sure?? Voldo does spin like a fan.

    • @Parodox306
      @Parodox306 3 роки тому +7

      @@J.Applejuice I understand it might be hard to distinguish the two, after all they both spin and have blades, but last I checked Voldo doesn't have working light bulbs in his torso directly wired to a switch in my room. If he does then I'm going to need him to start paying part of my utilities bill.

    • @J.Applejuice
      @J.Applejuice 3 роки тому +9

      @@Parodox306 i mean have you seen his crotch?? It lights up whenever he parries.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 3 роки тому +7

      @@Parodox306 I'm pretty sure in some of the alternative skins he actually, literally has lightbulbs sticking out of his torso...

  • @bwagner23
    @bwagner23 3 роки тому +45

    "yoinkreate" is amazing; thank you Pat for your contribution to language (also goddamn this vid went everywhere and I love it)

  • @heavenly2k
    @heavenly2k 2 роки тому +2

    Hey bro, couldn't but to notice your effortless grace and beauty while deadlifting. I can tell you didn't skip soul day. Namaste bro.

  • @noisaidgetlost9448
    @noisaidgetlost9448 3 роки тому +6

    'Bro, I admire your grace' is my new go to.

  • @cheese_priest
    @cheese_priest 3 роки тому +23

    Damn Pat, you didn't have to go this hard. Hit it out of the park.

  • @KurtIndovina
    @KurtIndovina 3 роки тому +18

    I can't even begin to articulate how deeply this resonated with my soul.

  • @macularius
    @macularius 3 роки тому +76

    lots of good phrases/terms in here but I'm personally enjoying "masculinity starter kit"

  • @friendlyfrankenstein
    @friendlyfrankenstein 3 роки тому +15

    Point at which I became overwhelmed with confusion by voldos backstory/having a backstory: about at 'servant to an italian weapons merchant' tbh
    How I felt by the end: touched, oddly affirmed in my gender as a very Loudly Femme-Macho trans dude, giggling about italians.

  • @SureyD
    @SureyD 3 роки тому +10

    You did such a great job tackling the sensitive subjects and cultures respectfully, like... it is informative, relevant, funny, ... thank you Pat, Simone, and everyone involved.

  • @lishuss
    @lishuss 3 роки тому +18

    I love voldo,his move set is all over the place and it really helps you find out which one of your friends is toxic when you pick him and they can't stop saying horrible stuff.
    Also, yeah, even as a straight dude I got to say voldo can get it.

  • @suisui7481
    @suisui7481 3 роки тому +62

    lol, he's just Italian joke reminded me of people saying Luca isn't gay since that's how Italians act around each other. didn't know all Italians want to stay with a bud, escape away from the world, and stay with that 1 male very good bud of theirs. Italian friendships must be amazing

    • @ShakeyBox
      @ShakeyBox 3 роки тому +15

      You joke, but when the expectations of toxic masculinity are dropped, friendships between men are *way* better.
      Looking back at the times I used to voluntarily be near men in social situations under those pressures, that didn't feel like friendship at all.

    • @cocoapurple1376
      @cocoapurple1376 3 роки тому +9

      I think men can have a bond with one another without it being romantic or sexual. Yes we need more lgbt+ representation but other kinds of love also need more representation.

    • @tonyjoestar2632
      @tonyjoestar2632 3 роки тому +1

      Can confirm.

    • @sketchywest1176
      @sketchywest1176 3 роки тому +4

      I had the thought partway through that movie that maybe there was something going on between Luca and Alberto, but then I remembered that Disney had a hand in making the movie and I knew there was no way they'd incorporate such progressive ideas in one of their films.

  • @top-notanalysis4942
    @top-notanalysis4942 3 роки тому +177

    Came for the Soul Calibur, stayed for the surprisingly profound analysis of masculine gender norms and subversions ^w^

  • @t1tliQuid
    @t1tliQuid 3 роки тому +13

    I went "is he wearing a power trip shirt?.. hell yea he is!"

    • @kaylee6208
      @kaylee6208 3 роки тому

      I too noticed and appreciated the Power Trip shirt

  • @bigbadbrownybadger
    @bigbadbrownybadger 3 роки тому +2

    I don’t know what I expected from this essay from the title, but it absolutely blew me away. This is so thoughtful and well researched.
    Truly excellent.

  • @sofiarocha9907
    @sofiarocha9907 3 роки тому +19

    Pat's videos to me are always like: I have little to no previous knowledge of your starting point but I'm sure we're headed to a great conclusion

  • @aquaintsound
    @aquaintsound 3 роки тому +360

    "everything about Voldo is evasive, slippery, and hard to pin down"
    Voldo is gender

    • @christian-mx7ml
      @christian-mx7ml 3 роки тому +6

      not really. pretty easy. i knew i was a Dodge Challenger from the moment i was born. i have to go now VAROOM!

    • @Laneous14
      @Laneous14 3 роки тому +9

      If you can't pin down your own gender then you have no business driving a car, voting, picking fabric patterns, or dressing yourself. Get help.

    • @neogeobro42o96
      @neogeobro42o96 3 роки тому +23

      @@Laneous14 Actually you can’t prove that and you’re ignorant. Get help.

    • @Sompursone
      @Sompursone 3 роки тому +28

      @Shin Shaman Hey, just letting you know, outing yourself as nonbinary-phobic on a video that explores how a video game character may actually be based on lgbtq culture might not be the best idea.

    • @sacta
      @sacta 3 роки тому +8

      @Shin Shaman Leading the country to ruin how? By... adding more genders? If a country is so fragile that it'll break down over this, maybe it does deserve ruin.

  • @thomasswingler174
    @thomasswingler174 3 роки тому +30

    Now this was good video. I've been pondering on masculinity a lot over the last few months and this just weirdly connected a bunch of stuff in my head. Also I've always loved Voldo, I barely play fighting games but when I did it was Soul Calibur and Voldo was the character I chose. Thanks Pat!

  • @nicholasmuir471
    @nicholasmuir471 3 роки тому +3

    this video turned out to be so much more than what i was expecting...i'm complimenting all of my boys on their grace from now on, thank you

  • @Nali07
    @Nali07 3 роки тому +3

    I think that hidden indicator like "grace" is on of the reasons why Eddy (Tekken) is so famous . His Capoeira looks so fluently (and effective to a unfair point^^)

  • @ZachSing
    @ZachSing 3 роки тому +5

    It astounds me every-time how informative these videos are and how much I learn from them when my initial thought on seeing the thumbnail is “Oh yeah, that’s a Pat video about something random and funny” Thanks for being funny AND informative Pat

  • @hitagi8308
    @hitagi8308 3 роки тому +6

    man you've been on a roll lately!! your videos are so fucking good dude they always brighten up my day

  • @MyNameAkhim
    @MyNameAkhim 3 роки тому +20

    Pat likes metal, martial arts, Berserk, and Soul Calibur?! He is my new favorite Polygon character

  • @nyxnotnicks
    @nyxnotnicks 3 роки тому +29

    I love Voldo's whole deal, whatever it is. This video made me cry, it's so good to see positive masculinity.

  • @panpolypuff
    @panpolypuff 3 роки тому +33

    Why did this video make me cry? Thank you for the unexpected gender deconstruction tale, Patrick. I've never been comfortable conforming to "ideal" masculinity, and recently came out as non-binary at age 31. This was a beautiful watch. Seriously, thank you.

  • @ryospeedwagon1456
    @ryospeedwagon1456 3 роки тому +6

    This is probably one of my favorite Polygon videos to date. Loving the deep dive into real life inspirations that was faithfully done - with grace.

  • @morganl5875
    @morganl5875 3 роки тому +29

    Why does Pat have to keep releasing new amazing videos that make it even harder for me to pick a favorite Pat video

    • @polygon
      @polygon  3 роки тому +15

      Conspiracy!

  • @Atamosk-bu7zt
    @Atamosk-bu7zt 3 роки тому +65

    The reason i choose voldo as a secondary: it generally makes my opponent question my style, especially when i flop on round one to utterly destroy them two in a row.
    Also, i find leather straps quite hawt, ngl.

    • @Crazzzzzzzziesandus
      @Crazzzzzzzziesandus 3 роки тому +4

      voldo is hard to play, but harder to play against for my experience

    • @MyNameIsBucket
      @MyNameIsBucket 3 роки тому

      I am a Voldo main supremacist. There, I said it.

    • @ix8750
      @ix8750 3 роки тому

      @@Crazzzzzzzziesandus weirdly I actually can't play any other character besides him in SC. He has the only fighting style that feels fluid and natural for me personally. 😅

  • @Uptomyknees
    @Uptomyknees 3 роки тому +46

    Hey, this is an amazing video and you're wonderfully good at this, this taught me such cool things about random subcultures, thank you.

  • @sarahfc8682
    @sarahfc8682 Рік тому

    this is legitimately my favorite polygon video, and one of my favorite youtube videos in general. i have never played soulcaliber in my life, but this journey through the influences on a character i didn't know at all before is so fascinating, soothing, and clearly a labor of love from pat that voldo now has a special place in my heart.

  • @Margles349
    @Margles349 3 роки тому +6

    A) immediately knew this was a Pat video
    B) I adore Hellraiser but never made that connection
    C) Voldo is a question that has haunted me my whole life

  • @ericbright5129
    @ericbright5129 3 роки тому +48

    I played a lot as Hakan in Street Fighter 4. He covers himself in oil to slide under opponents and launch them into the air with big slippery hugs. The game also consistently has him informing people of his wife and "seven lovely daughters", to make it clear he has a case of the "not-gays". Not very Voldo of him in my opinion.

    • @frogjackethuman781
      @frogjackethuman781 3 роки тому +9

      My Google says there is such a thing as Turkish oil wrestling, which it looks like straight men do participate in, but on the other hand if you're gay that's definitely the sport to go into

  • @DubiousConsumption
    @DubiousConsumption 3 роки тому +21

    Glad we're finally getting down to what matters.
    I pick Voldo every time and am so hyped to see this deep dive.

  • @1991zabel
    @1991zabel 3 роки тому +11

    As a fan of fighting games for most of my life i can say that i always found myself gravitating towards the weird and freaky characters first. From Voldo through Zafina into Zappa or most of Darkstalkers, the thing that seems cool to me is definitely not what people would actually consider as cool, bizarre would fit more.

  • @yphre
    @yphre 3 роки тому +6

    "he slithers along the ground, he girates" I don't know If I'd call that grace, but I do get your point xD

  • @The-great-googly-moogly
    @The-great-googly-moogly 3 роки тому +58

    Q: What's up with Voldo?
    A: He's Italian

  • @nicolassagrillo1442
    @nicolassagrillo1442 3 роки тому +15

    2:35 "is he,,, you know, 🤌?"

  • @MiStiQueT
    @MiStiQueT 3 роки тому +22

    Polygon, give this man a rise, that was so interesting. I loved playing Voldo so much

  • @omarolivera665
    @omarolivera665 4 місяці тому +1

    So glad I clicked a video of one of my favorite video game characters and find a brilliant, in depth, hillarious analysis -thanks so much!!

  • @dmoss010
    @dmoss010 3 роки тому +15

    It was a proud moment when I learned some efficient combos to use while playing with Voldo in the early days of SC or SE. None of my friends used him because "he is too weird."
    I destroyed them all.

  • @Gaareth_
    @Gaareth_ 3 роки тому +87

    Yes in italy we only dress up in bdsm wear and walk all jiggly and gracefully, i can confirm that.

    • @Gooong
      @Gooong 3 роки тому +13

      So THAT's why Vatican City is separate...

    • @basilmemories
      @basilmemories 3 роки тому +5

      i mean, that's how you won eurovision this year anyway.
      (also like. talent from the band)

    • @Gaareth_
      @Gaareth_ 3 роки тому +4

      @@basilmemories touchè

    • @kaptenlemper
      @kaptenlemper 3 роки тому

      Isn't that Germany?

    • @allenr.3237
      @allenr.3237 3 роки тому

      guess I need to book a trip now

  • @MintyDragonfly
    @MintyDragonfly 3 роки тому +23

    I’m not denying anything in this video because it’s extremely well-researched and entertaining but I am wondering if the sheer fact Soul Edge etc comes out of Japan means something a little different. The “hyper-masculine” stereotype of a big muscle-bound hunk who moves in a very specific way is a very western-centric concept - I remember in Hi Score Girl the protag was surprised that his female opponent chose Zangeif because he was an unpopular character, partly because of his looks. Also, the “bear” or hunk stereotype is the prevalent gay stereotype in Japan, or it was at least in the early 2000s I believe, rather than a more effeminate, slender figured man. The “ideal man” among men in Japan seems to be more slender and stoic than strong and domineering (although this is just what I’ve gathered from an East Asian Studies university degree and an outsider’s consumption of Japanese media and culture, I am not a part of that culture and do not speak for its members). That isn’t to say Voldo isn’t still made to play with our expectations of gender and strength though, I just think it’s more heavily leaning on the horror aspects from Hellraiser as introduced to Japanese culture rather than an explicit counter to “hyper-masculinity” which appears to be far less present in Japanese culture than in American/Western European culture.

    • @ambitiouspants
      @ambitiouspants 3 роки тому +7

      I mean... this video is about Voldo in the context of Japanese-made fighting games. which are not exactly chock-full of men defying burly muscle-bound aggressive stereotypes, so.

    • @EdelicaDigital
      @EdelicaDigital 3 роки тому +3

      We liked Voldo, Manga was new to us, it made us wonder if they were all very perverted in Japan.
      I think the whole video is just designed to annoy people in commenting and if I were less cynical, I too would wonder about the influences of the presenter. If only he could have had Big Daddy(UK) instead of Hulk Hogan.
      KungFu fights are graceful, GunFu is sometimes described as balletic(if that is a word), Ryu would definitely appreciate ChunLi’s fighting style and in real life some footballers are definitely elegant. Regarding Voldo though, I always assumed his movement was supposed to be unnatural, jarring and alien.
      This video was recommended to me because I like fighting games.

    • @PeriLlwynog
      @PeriLlwynog 3 роки тому +1

      The idea that Japanese (and more broadly Asian) men are not “real men”, effeminate, and weak compared to American and European men is actually a pernicious orientalist trope that’s been common since the 19th century. This makes it hard for lots of Westerners to see Japanese masculinity, even when the expression follows familiar patterns.

  • @PhunkieZero
    @PhunkieZero 3 роки тому +8

    I love Voldo, he's one of my favorite fighting game characters overall, his style is so unique, both his fashion AND his fighting moves. You can really do a lot of weird stuff with him.
    Also, Voldo is like, canonically 67 years old as of SC5, so probably older now in SC6? That makes him pretty damn lithe for an old guy!

    • @Astaroth1-i5m
      @Astaroth1-i5m 2 роки тому

      Sc6 is a reboot, so he is probably like in Sc1 46.

  • @dioh6993
    @dioh6993 2 місяці тому

    thank you for the video. it's well-written and I found it informative and entertaining. I was earnestly looking for a simple explanation of who voldo was and why he was the way that he is, and I found so much more. Im 3 years into the release of this video but i felt compelled to write this.
    once again, well done.

  • @stephengold4474
    @stephengold4474 3 роки тому +1

    The subtle edit to the Dril tweet fully sent me