Rule of 12 Chipping - Easy Way to Master Chipping
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2023
- This is going to help you to understand how much rollout is necessary to take into account for your chips. We can't merely pitch the ball at the hole, regardless of the loft you use. Lob wedge and sand wedge works for some people but for most double digit handicaps, the rule of 12 will leave you a very easy method to begin understanding how much roll out comes from a certain iron by following a quick step by step method. You need to have a little bit of mathematical skill but once you get used to it, it's so easy.
you will become more advanced eventually and so it will be something you do just by sight without needing to pace it out. Good luck and report back
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So rule is: roll out distance divided by carry distance equals number. 12 minus number equals club selection. Adjust the 12 to factor in green speed and uphill/downhill speed. Got it!
I simplify the rule somewhat since I don't pace off my shots. I figure it by ratio of 1 to 5, 1 to 4, 1 to 3, 1 to 2 and 1 to 1 which corresponds to 7, 8, 9, GW, PW.
@@majormeteorsame here! For me my SW is 1:1 ratio. Then just go down a club for 1:2 and so on
Sounds like the lazy version. Have to be good with judging distances using your eyes
@@shammymcshamrock8944 True. You have to be good at distances. When playing with friends, I don't want to whip out a calculator or pace off every chip. Do you like playing with guys who think they are pros, then blade the ball across the green? I'm just not that good anyway but this is a good metric for club selection. Execution is a completely different topic.
This has been the best information video on The Rule of 12 that I have seen on UA-cam!! Thank u.
Love how you explain it in simple terms. That is solid gold!! Thank you my friend!!!
Great stuff, Matt. My go-to chipping (and often pitching) club is 9-iron. I've always liked to run the ball up to the hole, and early on I noticed that a mishit with the 9 (or any lower-lofted club) would almost always end up okay. In contrast, the bladed, low-bounce, high-lofted wedges that most players buy are, by design, unforgiving. Catch one a little fat or thin and you're chipping again. My #1 priority with any chip or pitch is that my next shot is a putt. These types of high-lofted wedges also require that you be able to read a lie very well and know how the ball will come out from different grasses and different lengths of grass. While I've learned to hit these clubs and those high, soft-landing pitches, they still present more risk than I like. I'm a 4 HCP and I still only break out a lofted wedge when it's absolutely necessary. And even then it's usually only a 52º wedge!
Of course, I've practiced with the 9-iron for countless hours and so naturally I've gotten good at the 9-iron. Most players I see are using lob wedges around the green, and I guess that's okay. The ones who practice a lot get good with those, too. The wolf you feed is the one that gets bigger. But I would encourage beginning golfers, when they practice, to just throw down some balls and try chipping/pitching a variety of different clubs to a pin - playing around with opening or closing the face and varying ball position and seeing how the ball reacts. You can hit a 9-iron quite high. You can hit a low runner with a sand wedge. Whenever possible (i.e. when I won't be in anyone's way) I throw a handful of balls out randomly to different distances from a hole. Then I chip or pitch them with whatever club looks good for that shot (often...a 9-iron). I've found this type of practice to be much more fruitful - and more fun - than just banging the same shot to the same pin from the same place over and over.
GAME CHANGER!! I’ve recently changed from park courses to links here in Scotland and really struggling with my typical lofted chips around the green, the solution is obviously to stop using the lofted clubs due to the tighter lies but I’ve never been a fan of chip n runs. I’ve used the rule of 12 in the past but quickly gave up on it as I found it inaccurate but you have clearly shown on this video that you must adapt it to your environment, it’s so obvious now, thanks again Matt 👍
i mentioned a variation of this on one of your videos years ago.. long time viewer :) PW is 1:1 it will roll as far as you pitch the you add 3 yards per club so for the 5 yard pitch to 20 yard is PW 10 yards 9 is 13 8 is 16 7 is 19 yards. Uphill is 2 yards between clubs and downhill is 4 yards
Hey! Can you elaborate better/longer? Really curious
@@rewind3334 quite late, but I deciphered it:
For a 20yd shot:
Pw = land @ 10yds : roll 10yds
9I = land 7 : roll 13
8I = land 4 : roll 16
7I = land 1 : roll 19
Or the other way
SW = land 13 : roll 7
LW = land 16 : roll 4
So you +/- 3 yards of land for each club you change, +/-2 uphill, +/-4 for downhill.
I practice similar with a ratio based approach, per club. It's been super useful. Cool that there's an actual system.
This is awesome!... Great job explaining all this. So simple, and effective. Definitely taking this to the course. 🤙🏼
I love how I can just revisit this page. Such a gem.
This works, have been trying at the chipping green today and it’s great… def need the adjustment for slow vs fast tried a few uphill and downhill chips. You inspired me to watch a few other videos after this about Paul Runyon he was an interesting character! The shot he pulled off in the pga championship against Sam Snead where he chipped over his ball on the putting green was unreal, they should bring back stymies 😂
Great video. Very succinct and packed full of nuance. Thank you.
Land
1/2 way to hole = SW
1/3 = PW
1/4 = 9I
1/5 = 8I
1/6 = 7I
Same math, but this make more sense to my brain this way. It's a ratio of land to roll out distance with a club result. I boiled it down to fractions of how close to the hole you want to land.
So, if you want to land 1/2 way to the hole you'd grab SW. Hope this helps.
Reminds me of Bobby Jones and the technique he advocated in his series "How I Play Golf".
Absolute genius!
So glad I found this channel before my first ever game.
I was using this but never took into account the speed of the green!! Thank you buddy! Very good tutorial and video! 👍🏻
amazing! can't wait to practice this! Thank you!
This is very interesting & look forward to giving it a try. I'm been flying gap to lob wedge depending course greens but lately little inconsistent.
So informative, thanks for sharing!
Noticed this in my own game so much in the last few months, didn’t know the rule of twelve until I clicked on this video, but I’ve been progressively chipping with less and less loft and getting better and better results. It really takes a lot of factors out.
Thanks so much for pointing out green speed differences being critical for this method. Quick check with roll out using a sand wedge on the practice green before a round to see if roll-out is less or more than the 1:1 ratio should be a quick trick to be able to adjust speed for the upcoming round; rather than having to use a Stimpmeter.
Paul Runyan did a video on the rule of Twelve. Nice to see you expand on the up hill and down hill factors in the technique . I've noticed practicing with the same golf balls I take out to golf course really helps with the feel . Consistency is helpful to achieve repeatable results. Thank you good video!
This was such an interesting video to watch, well done guys😀.
This is always the best instruction with the reason why. Thank YOU :)
Definitely going to fold this into my game. Great stuff playa
What a great way to take the guessing out of it....can't wait to try this on the chipping green! Once it quits snowing.....
Nice video ty. Reminds me of a Judy Rankin article I read 20+ years ago I still kinda use… based on flag location…9 near. 7 center. 5 far. Same stroke every time using these 3 clubs. With stronger lofts today I use the pw-8-6! ⛳️😂
Can’t wait to try this! Good stuff
Great lesson video. Thank you!
I’ve been working with this concept as late and it’s brilliant for eliminating the unnecessary risk of duffing or thinning chips with the sand wedge (which seemed to be costing me 2-3 strokes per round). The green speed has to be considered and also the apex of different length shots because it’s higher on longer shots, which means a steeper landing angle, which means less roll out… and that’s for every club. Ive been chipping with 7 iron, 9 iron, and gap wedge at the practice greens and SW only when I have to AND the lie (nice chippy grass) allows for it. If not, then I must accept bogey and go past the hole. I’m starting to keep notes of the roll out numbers from different distances and different slopes for each club… it’s a lot! I do believe, however, that this will get me to the promised land.
Great set of clubs to be using for this method. Glad to know there are other playas using this method too
This is excellent! Both the calculation tips AND the awesome dancing in the background starting at 10:25
always used this. find ealiest best part on the green and then just pace it like this 1:1 is lob wedge and so on, so basic but works beaut
Wow this is amazing. Will definitely try it
This is brilliant, amazing content thank you!!! Love stuff like this 🔥🔥🔥
Me too. Fun to make. Great to see people get better
Great stuff playa - look forward to putting this into practice. Interesting addition then, is when looking at a green you can plan your miss more easily i.e. for the spot on the fringe where this chip style will work...and try harder to avoid lobbing over bunkers!
Great video. Something to think about: "your" ratios will also depend on the dynamic loft at impact. If your irons are game improvement clubs, they tend to be strong-lofted (i.e., a 9 iron has a traditional 8 iron loft) so you might have to go to the rule of 13. Also, you may need to use a more lofted club if you tend to de-loft the face by having more shaft lean at impact. Use the practice greens to work out your ratios and adjust the rule to fit your game.
Agreed. But if you go back to when Mr. Runyon wrote the book an 8 iron was 44 degrees and a nine was 48. I don’t know about dynamics but a 9 now is 40 degrees. That’s why you hit a 9 160 plus.
@@jeffcline7689 well. That’s overly generalizing. I have a 42° 9i and carry 163 so it really does depend on the individuals skill level
My 9 iron is 52 degrees and I hit
It around 250 yards. Don’t believe me? Why not? This is the interwebs, where everyone is awesome
@@JLeeGolf So you can hit a 48 degree 9 iron 163 as well,
@@MauriceKolen 😅😅
Tried this the other day and worked great 👍
Great! Add this to the Short Game Series playlist.
This absolutely works, I kid you not. Mathematics never lies. You don't hit and hope when you have a formula, and it gives you exact focus on a landing spot. Super tip. I use rule of ten on the greens where I play.
I love it when people realize this actually works. It’s ground breaking
I had no idea about this rule for chipping. Love it!
It’s some old school golf stuff.
Old school is still cool.
I've gotten pretty good at hitting my sand wedge all around the green, but I could definitely benefit from putting this concept into play.
10:24 breakdancing and chipping lessons. All in one!
LOL!! I missed that on the first watch.
Game changing stuff💪🎉
That's amazing, can't wait to practice it.
Great. Let me know how you do
One of the best chipping lesson...thank you so much brother
Stick around more pearls of wisdom coming soon
I use to use my SW all the time and because I was using it I was becoming good with it. About 2 years ago I had switched to using and 8 iron more around the green and was actually doing better, actually holing couple or coming very close. This is a good tip that I will try out this year once the courses open up
Let us know how it goes. Be interesting to see real world data
Same here, I've been trying out 8iron and I seem to find it finish much closer than my 54degree
@@james.a.h. nice playa many people love 8,9 PW for chips
I'm alllll about the 8-iron chip, especially in kikuyu grass here in Cali. Can usually hole out a few each month if my touch is dialed in.
Such a great video. I practiced this today and my dispersion around the cup was much tighter. Once I got the feel, 1/3 of the chips ended within a foot of the cup. Thank you!
Glad to hear it playa
Very good points and where your scoring is key. Personally, I would use an 8i/9i or Pw and /or putter if on a level surface just outside the green for more direction/distance control. Only use a 56 wedge if height and short bounce is required. 👍
I’ve used this rule for 20+ years and what is nice is if you don’t like to practice, you have something. Now rule of 12 can be rule of 11 or rule of 14 depending on green speeds. Also the number of steps is your steps as its relative to the equation.
I use a similar rule for putting based on steps to hole +/- same backstroke in inches and the equation changes based on green speed.
T-ski in the background is hilarious!!!😂😂😂
Great Vedio, Thanks for sharing valuable info. Cheers
Great video!! I love the little “cuts” in film as the high intense maths is confirmed!!
No calculator needed!!
love this!!!
Thanks much. You explained it so well.
Pleasure baus
Hi Playa.. I took Big Dog's expensive lesson to the range.. every shot like butter (almost) fantastic!.
(I'm talking about the right hip back etc. Not this video as such) thanks baus
great video matey
This is great. Few thoughts for myself: I think I automatically carry my chips 1/3 of the distance to get me near the hole. That's using a PW. If I don't have the green to do this, I switch to a SW. For uphill chips, I tend to use a slightly longer club. For downhill, I use a SW. Now that I've watched this, I think I will just chip for warm-ups rather than spend time putting. Then I'll use my PW and mark where it lands and where it rolls out to. If it doesn't roll the rest of the 2/3, I'll switch to a 9 iron. If it goes too long, I'll switch the SW. Basically saying, you can calibrate a reliable method with a chip over a putt.
So unbelievably simple it has to work. Thank you.
Glad it helped
@@GolfSidekick I'm at the range right now and it's working like a charm. Thank you
great tip!
Great video this is very interesting I will start using some of these tricks
Let me know how you get on with it
Love the moves in the background!
I learned from Eddie Merrins to use a putting stroke to take out the variable of distance. Your guy was using so many different levels of power. A putting stroke with a choked down 5, 6 or 7 iron proved most consistent for me.
Love the break dancer in the back....10:23.
awesome lesson. i made my own stimp meter by using 2 alignment rods and a small chunk of foam. i made 2 holes in the foam that are the width for the golf ball to roll down and the phone can sit on the edge of the foam just above the 30 inch line with enough room for the ball to sit right on the line. (* foam piece about 3 inches by 2 inches by an inch). then i made a marker mark at 30 inches on the rods. i use a free android level app, and the stimp is a standard measurement. 30 inches of roll at 20.5 degrees/10.5 inches. so you just lay the phone on the foam and raise it to 20.5 degrees and roll 3 balls. measure that and then roll 3 balls back the opposite way on the same line. the measurement in feet is the stimp of the green. keep up the great work!
Your name does not do you justice. lazy dads would not create this. Waddaplaya
@@GolfSidekick thanks champion! keep up the great work inspiring the people. greets from canada!!
Completely makes sense. I tend to default to a club I’m comfortable with and it’s not the right choice. This rule of 12 will help me think more about the decision on what club to choose to get the most consistent result. :) love it. Thanks (and now your sister is all warmed up for her chipping lesson it appears..)
Yeah-I was ready to go stomp some a$$ and take names
@@teatimegolf put your guns away!
I don’t get it
Way to fast
Never heard of this before but it does look like it works and makes sense!!
It’s makes sense and you can play around with it
Great timing Chief. Been drilling the shot game lately. Needed something to think on more than greater loft less roll out. Teaski dancing- Wadda life
I was preparing myself for the Videographer of the year awards
Love your sister in the background over the last two mins !! Looks like they are practicing for the instructional video on stretching before golf!
I was getting ready to break it down
Great video
I've been using this for a few years... it works! There are a couple of additional thoughts besides green speed and up or down breaks. The lie, how you feel, confidence level, etc. Some people teach or advocate using one club around the greens...not me. I think that anyone with a mid handicap or lower has hit enough balls to use a club "for something it may not be traditionally for", like using a 6 or 7 to go twenty yards.
Glad you say it works. What clubs do you use around the green?
Serious everything from a 6 on down…have tried some hybrids, but I haven’t given them enough practice to be able to commit.
I’m a 15 handicap index, so GIOTG is my mantra…so lots of times I’m chipping from well inside ten yards. Leave the ego at home, do a pendulum swing with an 8 iron, and get it within the easy putt range. You’ve heard it before, so many times you’ve probably got a painfully swollen head, but the combo of videos and sacred lectures have helped me drop from a 28 handicap when I took up the game four years ago and I have plans to drop a couple more 🏌️♂️Keeping in mind that I’m 64 and playing in Canada (so half years), I’m pretty happy with my game!… and with your teaching!
Can highly recommend this method - have been using it myself for a couple of years and get up-and-down most times. I had to work out the green speed through trial-and-error. My club displays the stimp speed for the day on the practice green and I have a little chart in my scorecard holder showing all of the club/carry/role for each stimp speed - makes the working out way quicker (and actually speeds up play because you;lre making fewer putts 👍🏼
Nice playa. Totally speeds up play
You are a mad genius in waddaplayer labcoat and bucket hat. To misquote Optimis Prime ... Sidekick...roll out. You're transforming golf
Thanks playa
Very good instruction, no fancy talk but right to the points. Thank you very much .
Glad it helped
Very cool. I've never heard of this before!
And now you can try it and let me know how it goes
This flat out works. Learned it a few years ago and the guys I play with can’t believe how close I chip it. Funny thing though, when I explain the method they still pull sand wedge and leave it 10 feet short.
It’s high brow stuff.
I am a Hdcp 9, never heard of this but I will use it as my short game sucks 😄
Leaned a lot from this guy 👍
🤯🤯🤯 I love this idea!
It’s a thing of beauty
Awesome video Matt. I haven’t struggled too much with my chipping but find I’m over reliant on my SW and 60 irrespective of lie and green speed. This definitely makes life easier and allows for a greater margin of error
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Very well done.
Thanks playa
I’ve used this method for six years and it’s the #1 reason my scores dropped five strokes per round. My only additions would be to …always start with the ball in the same spot off your back foot. Just going from outside to inside your back foot changes everything. And, to me, it’s easier to figure the correct club, no matter if up or down hill. Then, if uphill, use one club less loft. ( Go from normally a 9 iron to an 8 iron.). If downhill, use TWO clubs MORE loft. ( If downhill and normally you’d use a 7 iron, use a nine iron, but hit the same spot as if it were flat.). It makes computing a lot easier.
Now incorporate the same thought but in putting. Distance to the hole divide by 2 for slow greens (8 or 9), divide by 3 on medium greens (10-11), divide by 4 on fast greens (12 and above). If you are putting down hill then divide your distance by 2 to start and then apply the formula. I find uphill putts formula is always treated as a slow green (8 or 9).
Excellent
Great Explanation and Execution!
gonna try this. kinda dope.
It is dope. Let me know how it works for you
Will be using this next time out
Let me know what you think
Kevin and Perry go large at the golf course 😎😆 cool video. Gonna use it 👍🏻
My buddy from Birmingham taught me this back in 2011. Definitely helped my game then.
Nice playa
i still have paul runyan's short game book from the 70's' it's a gem. thnx for the info.
great book
can't wait to go practice this
Let me know how it goes
If you are like me and you grab a club to chip with and you don't want to walk back to your cart:
1. Walk out the number of paces from the ball to the hole
2. If you have a SW, divide the paces by 2 and that is where you should try to land the ball
PW > divide by 3
9 iron > divide by 4
8 iron > divide by 5
7 iron > divide by 6
Couldn't stop thinning with the sw last round. Cost me at least 6 shots. I need this concept to work 😂 I'll be trying it next week
Been using rule of 12 for a while now. Club adjustment is dependent on green speed and slope. I stay w 12 and adjust after calc
whatever works for you most chips i feel how much forces i need to hit a certain distance and go from there. I stick with the wedges because most situations you need to carry the ball further than you can with a bump and run or its downhill. there are limited situations where punch shots are beneficial like when you have to avoid obstacles but wont ever be a high frequency shot because most chips you dont have alot of green to work with.
I’m a HUGE Paul Runyan fan and the reason that I bump everything around the green….I usually only take SW or 8iron when I’m close to the green….after watching this im gonna focus more on landing area and paying attention to roll out…thx for simplifying the rule for me…looking forward to playing golf with you 1 day
Nice playa
I’m a huge Paul Runyan fan too. His ability to chop down trees was legendary.
I've been using this system for the last 4 years. Great system, and you can practice it in your backyard because you're only chipping the ball 3 or 4 or 5 yards.
I like using the back yard too
This technique works! By watching your video, I went from a 32 handicap to US Open Champion! Thanks bro! Signed, Brooks Koepka
Glad it helped!
Right around the 10:26 mark, the caddy was putting on a show! Nice moves!
100 % did not know the camera was on me
great tip for short game
Thanks Playaaa!
No thank you playa
Brilliant! 💪
You’re brilliant