Land 1/2 way to hole = SW 1/3 = PW 1/4 = 9I 1/5 = 8I 1/6 = 7I Same math, but this make more sense to my brain this way. It's a ratio of land to roll out distance with a club result. I boiled it down to fractions of how close to the hole you want to land. So, if you want to land 1/2 way to the hole you'd grab SW. Hope this helps.
@@nickbaker5296 agreed. I thought I wouldn't like this method because I like trusting my feel for these shots, but, like any other shot, it gives you a starting point and then you adjust with whatever modifiers apply.
My coach introduced this to me as the "Nicklaus method" back in the mid 90's, becasue its exactly what Jack use to do. I used it on Tour for a long time, it works wonderfully, but you need to adjust it for each course becasue some greens are harder and faster than others, so all you do is go up or down 1 or 2 clubs relative to the speed of the greens. Same for uphill and down hill chips.
GAME CHANGER!! I’ve recently changed from park courses to links here in Scotland and really struggling with my typical lofted chips around the green, the solution is obviously to stop using the lofted clubs due to the tighter lies but I’ve never been a fan of chip n runs. I’ve used the rule of 12 in the past but quickly gave up on it as I found it inaccurate but you have clearly shown on this video that you must adapt it to your environment, it’s so obvious now, thanks again Matt 👍
Great stuff, Matt. My go-to chipping (and often pitching) club is 9-iron. I've always liked to run the ball up to the hole, and early on I noticed that a mishit with the 9 (or any lower-lofted club) would almost always end up okay. In contrast, the bladed, low-bounce, high-lofted wedges that most players buy are, by design, unforgiving. Catch one a little fat or thin and you're chipping again. My #1 priority with any chip or pitch is that my next shot is a putt. These types of high-lofted wedges also require that you be able to read a lie very well and know how the ball will come out from different grasses and different lengths of grass. While I've learned to hit these clubs and those high, soft-landing pitches, they still present more risk than I like. I'm a 4 HCP and I still only break out a lofted wedge when it's absolutely necessary. And even then it's usually only a 52º wedge! Of course, I've practiced with the 9-iron for countless hours and so naturally I've gotten good at the 9-iron. Most players I see are using lob wedges around the green, and I guess that's okay. The ones who practice a lot get good with those, too. The wolf you feed is the one that gets bigger. But I would encourage beginning golfers, when they practice, to just throw down some balls and try chipping/pitching a variety of different clubs to a pin - playing around with opening or closing the face and varying ball position and seeing how the ball reacts. You can hit a 9-iron quite high. You can hit a low runner with a sand wedge. Whenever possible (i.e. when I won't be in anyone's way) I throw a handful of balls out randomly to different distances from a hole. Then I chip or pitch them with whatever club looks good for that shot (often...a 9-iron). I've found this type of practice to be much more fruitful - and more fun - than just banging the same shot to the same pin from the same place over and over.
@@user-xn7uh5ch2z Fair. I've started practicing 52° and 58° more and use them on faster greens, and when short-sided. But I can still chip with a 9-iron or PW on fast greens if the shot fits that club. And, as with anything in golf, it's very much lie-dependent.
Noticed this in my own game so much in the last few months, didn’t know the rule of twelve until I clicked on this video, but I’ve been progressively chipping with less and less loft and getting better and better results. It really takes a lot of factors out.
Great video. Something to think about: "your" ratios will also depend on the dynamic loft at impact. If your irons are game improvement clubs, they tend to be strong-lofted (i.e., a 9 iron has a traditional 8 iron loft) so you might have to go to the rule of 13. Also, you may need to use a more lofted club if you tend to de-loft the face by having more shaft lean at impact. Use the practice greens to work out your ratios and adjust the rule to fit your game.
Agreed. But if you go back to when Mr. Runyon wrote the book an 8 iron was 44 degrees and a nine was 48. I don’t know about dynamics but a 9 now is 40 degrees. That’s why you hit a 9 160 plus.
I’ve been working with this concept as late and it’s brilliant for eliminating the unnecessary risk of duffing or thinning chips with the sand wedge (which seemed to be costing me 2-3 strokes per round). The green speed has to be considered and also the apex of different length shots because it’s higher on longer shots, which means a steeper landing angle, which means less roll out… and that’s for every club. Ive been chipping with 7 iron, 9 iron, and gap wedge at the practice greens and SW only when I have to AND the lie (nice chippy grass) allows for it. If not, then I must accept bogey and go past the hole. I’m starting to keep notes of the roll out numbers from different distances and different slopes for each club… it’s a lot! I do believe, however, that this will get me to the promised land.
Thankyou. Your ability to verbalise, clarify and effectively present the subject is truly remarkable. I suspect many, many amateurs games are better than they think, they just don't kniwnhownto apply what, when and where. Your series is a testament to working with what you have.
awesome lesson. i made my own stimp meter by using 2 alignment rods and a small chunk of foam. i made 2 holes in the foam that are the width for the golf ball to roll down and the phone can sit on the edge of the foam just above the 30 inch line with enough room for the ball to sit right on the line. (* foam piece about 3 inches by 2 inches by an inch). then i made a marker mark at 30 inches on the rods. i use a free android level app, and the stimp is a standard measurement. 30 inches of roll at 20.5 degrees/10.5 inches. so you just lay the phone on the foam and raise it to 20.5 degrees and roll 3 balls. measure that and then roll 3 balls back the opposite way on the same line. the measurement in feet is the stimp of the green. keep up the great work!
I use to use my SW all the time and because I was using it I was becoming good with it. About 2 years ago I had switched to using and 8 iron more around the green and was actually doing better, actually holing couple or coming very close. This is a good tip that I will try out this year once the courses open up
This absolutely works, I kid you not. Mathematics never lies. You don't hit and hope when you have a formula, and it gives you exact focus on a landing spot. Super tip. I use rule of ten on the greens where I play.
Completely makes sense. I tend to default to a club I’m comfortable with and it’s not the right choice. This rule of 12 will help me think more about the decision on what club to choose to get the most consistent result. :) love it. Thanks (and now your sister is all warmed up for her chipping lesson it appears..)
I just went to the club at lunchtime and tried this, awesome! I really enjoy your series and am now a bogey golfer , thanks to you, and getting better even with 3 joint replacements and 5 spinal fusions! Thank you!
Paul Runyan did a video on the rule of Twelve. Nice to see you expand on the up hill and down hill factors in the technique . I've noticed practicing with the same golf balls I take out to golf course really helps with the feel . Consistency is helpful to achieve repeatable results. Thank you good video!
Just tried this on the course today, loved it! I love this way of "making golf simple" with easy to understand and remember strategies. I wish there was a rule similar that applied for lag putting. Definitely there i struggle most...
I've been using this for a few years... it works! There are a couple of additional thoughts besides green speed and up or down breaks. The lie, how you feel, confidence level, etc. Some people teach or advocate using one club around the greens...not me. I think that anyone with a mid handicap or lower has hit enough balls to use a club "for something it may not be traditionally for", like using a 6 or 7 to go twenty yards.
Serious everything from a 6 on down…have tried some hybrids, but I haven’t given them enough practice to be able to commit. I’m a 15 handicap index, so GIOTG is my mantra…so lots of times I’m chipping from well inside ten yards. Leave the ego at home, do a pendulum swing with an 8 iron, and get it within the easy putt range. You’ve heard it before, so many times you’ve probably got a painfully swollen head, but the combo of videos and sacred lectures have helped me drop from a 28 handicap when I took up the game four years ago and I have plans to drop a couple more 🏌️♂️Keeping in mind that I’m 64 and playing in Canada (so half years), I’m pretty happy with my game!… and with your teaching!
Nice video ty. Reminds me of a Judy Rankin article I read 20+ years ago I still kinda use… based on flag location…9 near. 7 center. 5 far. Same stroke every time using these 3 clubs. With stronger lofts today I use the pw-8-6! ⛳️😂
Great video...has a lot of great useful information on how to decide what shot to hit in a given situation which makes a practice session way more useful than just mind numbing hitting of balls. And dancing hot girl in the background makes it even better.
This works, have been trying at the chipping green today and it’s great… def need the adjustment for slow vs fast tried a few uphill and downhill chips. You inspired me to watch a few other videos after this about Paul Runyon he was an interesting character! The shot he pulled off in the pga championship against Sam Snead where he chipped over his ball on the putting green was unreal, they should bring back stymies 😂
Can highly recommend this method - have been using it myself for a couple of years and get up-and-down most times. I had to work out the green speed through trial-and-error. My club displays the stimp speed for the day on the practice green and I have a little chart in my scorecard holder showing all of the club/carry/role for each stimp speed - makes the working out way quicker (and actually speeds up play because you;lre making fewer putts 👍🏼
Such a great video. I practiced this today and my dispersion around the cup was much tighter. Once I got the feel, 1/3 of the chips ended within a foot of the cup. Thank you!
A young club pro showed me this 40 years ago. This is the honest truth. Said my wedge game was scary bad lol. I don’t need 4 wedges friends say I do and all I hear is nice chip .
I definitely can see how this will boost the confidence of people who struggle with short game and don't have the time to put the amount of work in to their wedges it takes to be truly great. Awesome video and concept!
I learned from Eddie Merrins to use a putting stroke to take out the variable of distance. Your guy was using so many different levels of power. A putting stroke with a choked down 5, 6 or 7 iron proved most consistent for me.
This flat out works. Learned it a few years ago and the guys I play with can’t believe how close I chip it. Funny thing though, when I explain the method they still pull sand wedge and leave it 10 feet short.
Great stuff playa - look forward to putting this into practice. Interesting addition then, is when looking at a green you can plan your miss more easily i.e. for the spot on the fringe where this chip style will work...and try harder to avoid lobbing over bunkers!
Very good points and where your scoring is key. Personally, I would use an 8i/9i or Pw and /or putter if on a level surface just outside the green for more direction/distance control. Only use a 56 wedge if height and short bounce is required. 👍
This makes a LOT of sense. I struggle with pace of play to have the time to figure out the right shot, do the math choose the club etc and keep up with pace of play and not slow play the group behind especially if everyone else is on the green and you’re the one chipping on. I assume the math gets easier / quicker as you do it enough but having the time to pace off landing and rollout lengths and not be too slow can be a challenge I would think.
This is great. Few thoughts for myself: I think I automatically carry my chips 1/3 of the distance to get me near the hole. That's using a PW. If I don't have the green to do this, I switch to a SW. For uphill chips, I tend to use a slightly longer club. For downhill, I use a SW. Now that I've watched this, I think I will just chip for warm-ups rather than spend time putting. Then I'll use my PW and mark where it lands and where it rolls out to. If it doesn't roll the rest of the 2/3, I'll switch to a 9 iron. If it goes too long, I'll switch the SW. Basically saying, you can calibrate a reliable method with a chip over a putt.
Hi Playa.. I took Big Dog's expensive lesson to the range.. every shot like butter (almost) fantastic!. (I'm talking about the right hip back etc. Not this video as such) thanks baus
Awesome video Matt. I haven’t struggled too much with my chipping but find I’m over reliant on my SW and 60 irrespective of lie and green speed. This definitely makes life easier and allows for a greater margin of error
I’m a HUGE Paul Runyan fan and the reason that I bump everything around the green….I usually only take SW or 8iron when I’m close to the green….after watching this im gonna focus more on landing area and paying attention to roll out…thx for simplifying the rule for me…looking forward to playing golf with you 1 day
I think this Rule would be better used to find your landing spot if you know you like to chip with, say, a PW. Can use the formula to find your spot! My previous question about different strengths in loft still stands…
Now incorporate the same thought but in putting. Distance to the hole divide by 2 for slow greens (8 or 9), divide by 3 on medium greens (10-11), divide by 4 on fast greens (12 and above). If you are putting down hill then divide your distance by 2 to start and then apply the formula. I find uphill putts formula is always treated as a slow green (8 or 9).
I used this method a few years back, so much so I had yardages written down. I used four clubs. I pitched everything five paces and recorded the roll out. My sand wedge was and is always pitch half way there and roll out the other half. You just need to get to a practice green and practice it and learn it. It’s better to stand a little taller and use a putting stroke.
You mention green speed dependent. How do you determine what the green speed is? (In NC recently we have had a LOT of rain...This means the greens are going to be slower right?) Love the content ❤
Great instructional video guys! Much appreciated. Can you let me know if the landing spot always (or at least usually) about a yard or two onto the green regardless of where the stick is? Cheers!
Can be. It’s easiest to use one landing spot. Sometimes it will need to change in special circumstances but 1-2 yards is a great place to start and stay with
Great video as always, and thank you for all your great content. First time I'm learning about the Rule of 12 and definitely see the value in a data-based approach. As I play out a variety of scenarios though, I realized that if you wanted a 2 yard carry with a 20 yard rollout, you'd have to choose a 2 or 3-iron to accomplish that. Seems extreme. That said, I love the wisdom of getting the ball rolling on the green as soon as possible. So do you just trust the system and go with that low-lofted iron, or would there be another approach you'd take when wanting a long rollout of 15+ yards? Thank you again for your insight and advice!
I’ve used this method for six years and it’s the #1 reason my scores dropped five strokes per round. My only additions would be to …always start with the ball in the same spot off your back foot. Just going from outside to inside your back foot changes everything. And, to me, it’s easier to figure the correct club, no matter if up or down hill. Then, if uphill, use one club less loft. ( Go from normally a 9 iron to an 8 iron.). If downhill, use TWO clubs MORE loft. ( If downhill and normally you’d use a 7 iron, use a nine iron, but hit the same spot as if it were flat.). It makes computing a lot easier.
have a 'stock putt' that you hit on the practice green the same putting stroke each time you can take to any course and you'll see how far the ball finishes from you - that's your personal stimp
@@andybrook-dobson726 Yes you develop this stock putt on the practice green. Your body will remember it. You can memorize the backstroke to your outside edge of your back foot.
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Land
1/2 way to hole = SW
1/3 = PW
1/4 = 9I
1/5 = 8I
1/6 = 7I
Same math, but this make more sense to my brain this way. It's a ratio of land to roll out distance with a club result. I boiled it down to fractions of how close to the hole you want to land.
So, if you want to land 1/2 way to the hole you'd grab SW. Hope this helps.
Reminds me of Bobby Jones and the technique he advocated in his series "How I Play Golf".
Thanks for sharing. I think this will help me.
@@nickbaker5296 agreed. I thought I wouldn't like this method because I like trusting my feel for these shots, but, like any other shot, it gives you a starting point and then you adjust with whatever modifiers apply.
Thanks, this works for me.
how come no one involves the 52 degree? im confused
My coach introduced this to me as the "Nicklaus method" back in the mid 90's, becasue its exactly what Jack use to do. I used it on Tour for a long time, it works wonderfully, but you need to adjust it for each course becasue some greens are harder and faster than others, so all you do is go up or down 1 or 2 clubs relative to the speed of the greens. Same for uphill and down hill chips.
This has been the best information video on The Rule of 12 that I have seen on UA-cam!! Thank u.
I love how I can just revisit this page. Such a gem.
GAME CHANGER!! I’ve recently changed from park courses to links here in Scotland and really struggling with my typical lofted chips around the green, the solution is obviously to stop using the lofted clubs due to the tighter lies but I’ve never been a fan of chip n runs. I’ve used the rule of 12 in the past but quickly gave up on it as I found it inaccurate but you have clearly shown on this video that you must adapt it to your environment, it’s so obvious now, thanks again Matt 👍
Great stuff, Matt. My go-to chipping (and often pitching) club is 9-iron. I've always liked to run the ball up to the hole, and early on I noticed that a mishit with the 9 (or any lower-lofted club) would almost always end up okay. In contrast, the bladed, low-bounce, high-lofted wedges that most players buy are, by design, unforgiving. Catch one a little fat or thin and you're chipping again. My #1 priority with any chip or pitch is that my next shot is a putt. These types of high-lofted wedges also require that you be able to read a lie very well and know how the ball will come out from different grasses and different lengths of grass. While I've learned to hit these clubs and those high, soft-landing pitches, they still present more risk than I like. I'm a 4 HCP and I still only break out a lofted wedge when it's absolutely necessary. And even then it's usually only a 52º wedge!
Of course, I've practiced with the 9-iron for countless hours and so naturally I've gotten good at the 9-iron. Most players I see are using lob wedges around the green, and I guess that's okay. The ones who practice a lot get good with those, too. The wolf you feed is the one that gets bigger. But I would encourage beginning golfers, when they practice, to just throw down some balls and try chipping/pitching a variety of different clubs to a pin - playing around with opening or closing the face and varying ball position and seeing how the ball reacts. You can hit a 9-iron quite high. You can hit a low runner with a sand wedge. Whenever possible (i.e. when I won't be in anyone's way) I throw a handful of balls out randomly to different distances from a hole. Then I chip or pitch them with whatever club looks good for that shot (often...a 9-iron). I've found this type of practice to be much more fruitful - and more fun - than just banging the same shot to the same pin from the same place over and over.
Chips with low lofted clubs work well on flat, not so fast green. It doesn’t work on fast sloped greens. It’s simply not gonna stop
@@user-xn7uh5ch2z Fair. I've started practicing 52° and 58° more and use them on faster greens, and when short-sided. But I can still chip with a 9-iron or PW on fast greens if the shot fits that club. And, as with anything in golf, it's very much lie-dependent.
I was using this but never took into account the speed of the green!! Thank you buddy! Very good tutorial and video! 👍🏻
Noticed this in my own game so much in the last few months, didn’t know the rule of twelve until I clicked on this video, but I’ve been progressively chipping with less and less loft and getting better and better results. It really takes a lot of factors out.
Great video. Something to think about: "your" ratios will also depend on the dynamic loft at impact. If your irons are game improvement clubs, they tend to be strong-lofted (i.e., a 9 iron has a traditional 8 iron loft) so you might have to go to the rule of 13. Also, you may need to use a more lofted club if you tend to de-loft the face by having more shaft lean at impact. Use the practice greens to work out your ratios and adjust the rule to fit your game.
Agreed. But if you go back to when Mr. Runyon wrote the book an 8 iron was 44 degrees and a nine was 48. I don’t know about dynamics but a 9 now is 40 degrees. That’s why you hit a 9 160 plus.
@@jeffcline7689 well. That’s overly generalizing. I have a 42° 9i and carry 163 so it really does depend on the individuals skill level
My 9 iron is 52 degrees and I hit
It around 250 yards. Don’t believe me? Why not? This is the interwebs, where everyone is awesome
@@JLeeGolf So you can hit a 48 degree 9 iron 163 as well,
@@MauriceKolen 😅😅
I’ve been working with this concept as late and it’s brilliant for eliminating the unnecessary risk of duffing or thinning chips with the sand wedge (which seemed to be costing me 2-3 strokes per round). The green speed has to be considered and also the apex of different length shots because it’s higher on longer shots, which means a steeper landing angle, which means less roll out… and that’s for every club. Ive been chipping with 7 iron, 9 iron, and gap wedge at the practice greens and SW only when I have to AND the lie (nice chippy grass) allows for it. If not, then I must accept bogey and go past the hole. I’m starting to keep notes of the roll out numbers from different distances and different slopes for each club… it’s a lot! I do believe, however, that this will get me to the promised land.
Great set of clubs to be using for this method. Glad to know there are other playas using this method too
This is awesome!... Great job explaining all this. So simple, and effective. Definitely taking this to the course. 🤙🏼
Thankyou. Your ability to verbalise, clarify and effectively present the subject is truly remarkable. I suspect many, many amateurs games are better than they think, they just don't kniwnhownto apply what, when and where. Your series is a testament to working with what you have.
awesome lesson. i made my own stimp meter by using 2 alignment rods and a small chunk of foam. i made 2 holes in the foam that are the width for the golf ball to roll down and the phone can sit on the edge of the foam just above the 30 inch line with enough room for the ball to sit right on the line. (* foam piece about 3 inches by 2 inches by an inch). then i made a marker mark at 30 inches on the rods. i use a free android level app, and the stimp is a standard measurement. 30 inches of roll at 20.5 degrees/10.5 inches. so you just lay the phone on the foam and raise it to 20.5 degrees and roll 3 balls. measure that and then roll 3 balls back the opposite way on the same line. the measurement in feet is the stimp of the green. keep up the great work!
Your name does not do you justice. lazy dads would not create this. Waddaplaya
@@GolfSidekick thanks champion! keep up the great work inspiring the people. greets from canada!!
I use to use my SW all the time and because I was using it I was becoming good with it. About 2 years ago I had switched to using and 8 iron more around the green and was actually doing better, actually holing couple or coming very close. This is a good tip that I will try out this year once the courses open up
Let us know how it goes. Be interesting to see real world data
Same here, I've been trying out 8iron and I seem to find it finish much closer than my 54degree
@@james.a.h. nice playa many people love 8,9 PW for chips
I'm alllll about the 8-iron chip, especially in kikuyu grass here in Cali. Can usually hole out a few each month if my touch is dialed in.
This absolutely works, I kid you not. Mathematics never lies. You don't hit and hope when you have a formula, and it gives you exact focus on a landing spot. Super tip. I use rule of ten on the greens where I play.
I love it when people realize this actually works. It’s ground breaking
I had no idea about this rule for chipping. Love it!
It’s some old school golf stuff.
Old school is still cool.
Completely makes sense. I tend to default to a club I’m comfortable with and it’s not the right choice. This rule of 12 will help me think more about the decision on what club to choose to get the most consistent result. :) love it. Thanks (and now your sister is all warmed up for her chipping lesson it appears..)
Yeah-I was ready to go stomp some a$$ and take names
@@teatimegolf put your guns away!
I don’t get it
Way to fast
I just went to the club at lunchtime and tried this, awesome! I really enjoy your series and am now a bogey golfer , thanks to you, and getting better even with 3 joint replacements and 5 spinal fusions! Thank you!
Absolute genius!
So glad I found this channel before my first ever game.
Paul Runyan did a video on the rule of Twelve. Nice to see you expand on the up hill and down hill factors in the technique . I've noticed practicing with the same golf balls I take out to golf course really helps with the feel . Consistency is helpful to achieve repeatable results. Thank you good video!
Just tried this on the course today, loved it! I love this way of "making golf simple" with easy to understand and remember strategies. I wish there was a rule similar that applied for lag putting. Definitely there i struggle most...
I practice similar with a ratio based approach, per club. It's been super useful. Cool that there's an actual system.
Love how you explain it in simple terms. That is solid gold!! Thank you my friend!!!
This is always the best instruction with the reason why. Thank YOU :)
So informative, thanks for sharing!
I've been using this for a few years... it works! There are a couple of additional thoughts besides green speed and up or down breaks. The lie, how you feel, confidence level, etc. Some people teach or advocate using one club around the greens...not me. I think that anyone with a mid handicap or lower has hit enough balls to use a club "for something it may not be traditionally for", like using a 6 or 7 to go twenty yards.
Glad you say it works. What clubs do you use around the green?
Serious everything from a 6 on down…have tried some hybrids, but I haven’t given them enough practice to be able to commit.
I’m a 15 handicap index, so GIOTG is my mantra…so lots of times I’m chipping from well inside ten yards. Leave the ego at home, do a pendulum swing with an 8 iron, and get it within the easy putt range. You’ve heard it before, so many times you’ve probably got a painfully swollen head, but the combo of videos and sacred lectures have helped me drop from a 28 handicap when I took up the game four years ago and I have plans to drop a couple more 🏌️♂️Keeping in mind that I’m 64 and playing in Canada (so half years), I’m pretty happy with my game!… and with your teaching!
Nice video ty. Reminds me of a Judy Rankin article I read 20+ years ago I still kinda use… based on flag location…9 near. 7 center. 5 far. Same stroke every time using these 3 clubs. With stronger lofts today I use the pw-8-6! ⛳️😂
Great video...has a lot of great useful information on how to decide what shot to hit in a given situation which makes a practice session way more useful than just mind numbing hitting of balls. And dancing hot girl in the background makes it even better.
This is excellent! Both the calculation tips AND the awesome dancing in the background starting at 10:25
This works, have been trying at the chipping green today and it’s great… def need the adjustment for slow vs fast tried a few uphill and downhill chips. You inspired me to watch a few other videos after this about Paul Runyon he was an interesting character! The shot he pulled off in the pga championship against Sam Snead where he chipped over his ball on the putting green was unreal, they should bring back stymies 😂
This focus upon aiming for the landing and aiming for the roll is golden even without using any numbers 🎉
This technique works! By watching your video, I went from a 32 handicap to US Open Champion! Thanks bro! Signed, Brooks Koepka
Glad it helped!
You are a mad genius in waddaplayer labcoat and bucket hat. To misquote Optimis Prime ... Sidekick...roll out. You're transforming golf
Thanks playa
Can highly recommend this method - have been using it myself for a couple of years and get up-and-down most times. I had to work out the green speed through trial-and-error. My club displays the stimp speed for the day on the practice green and I have a little chart in my scorecard holder showing all of the club/carry/role for each stimp speed - makes the working out way quicker (and actually speeds up play because you;lre making fewer putts 👍🏼
Nice playa. Totally speeds up play
This is so money. Started doing this and works great. So more more consistent.
Such a great video. I practiced this today and my dispersion around the cup was much tighter. Once I got the feel, 1/3 of the chips ended within a foot of the cup. Thank you!
Glad to hear it playa
One of the best chipping lesson...thank you so much brother
Stick around more pearls of wisdom coming soon
What a great way to take the guessing out of it....can't wait to try this on the chipping green! Once it quits snowing.....
A young club pro showed me this 40 years ago. This is the honest truth. Said my wedge game was scary bad lol. I don’t need 4 wedges friends say I do and all I hear is nice chip .
Love your sister in the background over the last two mins !! Looks like they are practicing for the instructional video on stretching before golf!
I was getting ready to break it down
Bro you know how much I just learned!?!? Awesome video
Never heard of this before but it does look like it works and makes sense!!
It’s makes sense and you can play around with it
always used this. find ealiest best part on the green and then just pace it like this 1:1 is lob wedge and so on, so basic but works beaut
Great! Add this to the Short Game Series playlist.
I definitely can see how this will boost the confidence of people who struggle with short game and don't have the time to put the amount of work in to their wedges it takes to be truly great. Awesome video and concept!
I learned from Eddie Merrins to use a putting stroke to take out the variable of distance. Your guy was using so many different levels of power. A putting stroke with a choked down 5, 6 or 7 iron proved most consistent for me.
This flat out works. Learned it a few years ago and the guys I play with can’t believe how close I chip it. Funny thing though, when I explain the method they still pull sand wedge and leave it 10 feet short.
It’s high brow stuff.
This is gold playas. I used to chip everything with SW but a "bump and run" is more efficient.
Looking forward to trying this out later this week!
So unbelievably simple it has to work. Thank you.
Glad it helped
@@GolfSidekick I'm at the range right now and it's working like a charm. Thank you
I've gotten pretty good at hitting my sand wedge all around the green, but I could definitely benefit from putting this concept into play.
That's amazing, can't wait to practice it.
Great. Let me know how you do
Great stuff playa - look forward to putting this into practice. Interesting addition then, is when looking at a green you can plan your miss more easily i.e. for the spot on the fringe where this chip style will work...and try harder to avoid lobbing over bunkers!
My buddy from Birmingham taught me this back in 2011. Definitely helped my game then.
Nice playa
Very good points and where your scoring is key. Personally, I would use an 8i/9i or Pw and /or putter if on a level surface just outside the green for more direction/distance control. Only use a 56 wedge if height and short bounce is required. 👍
Love the moves in the background!
This makes a LOT of sense. I struggle with pace of play to have the time to figure out the right shot, do the math choose the club etc and keep up with pace of play and not slow play the group behind especially if everyone else is on the green and you’re the one chipping on. I assume the math gets easier / quicker as you do it enough but having the time to pace off landing and rollout lengths and not be too slow can be a challenge I would think.
Practice
Nice! I enjoy your videos and learn something every time.
Great video. Very succinct and packed full of nuance. Thank you.
This is very interesting & look forward to giving it a try. I'm been flying gap to lob wedge depending course greens but lately little inconsistent.
This is great. Few thoughts for myself: I think I automatically carry my chips 1/3 of the distance to get me near the hole. That's using a PW. If I don't have the green to do this, I switch to a SW. For uphill chips, I tend to use a slightly longer club. For downhill, I use a SW. Now that I've watched this, I think I will just chip for warm-ups rather than spend time putting. Then I'll use my PW and mark where it lands and where it rolls out to. If it doesn't roll the rest of the 2/3, I'll switch to a 9 iron. If it goes too long, I'll switch the SW. Basically saying, you can calibrate a reliable method with a chip over a putt.
T-ski in the background is hilarious!!!😂😂😂
Hi Playa.. I took Big Dog's expensive lesson to the range.. every shot like butter (almost) fantastic!.
(I'm talking about the right hip back etc. Not this video as such) thanks baus
Great video!! I love the little “cuts” in film as the high intense maths is confirmed!!
No calculator needed!!
Awesome stuff Broski!
Definitely going to fold this into my game. Great stuff playa
Right around the 10:26 mark, the caddy was putting on a show! Nice moves!
100 % did not know the camera was on me
Wow thank you! as a first year and only two months in this is amazing info. Lets get my 108 down to 80.
Come awwwwn playa you can do it
My chips today were CRISPY!@@GolfSidekick
Can’t wait to try this! Good stuff
Very good instruction, no fancy talk but right to the points. Thank you very much .
Glad it helped
Awesome video Matt. I haven’t struggled too much with my chipping but find I’m over reliant on my SW and 60 irrespective of lie and green speed. This definitely makes life easier and allows for a greater margin of error
My first non family subscriber.
I am coming to Europe in june. Are you there?
I'll be in northern Italy most likely
i still have paul runyan's short game book from the 70's' it's a gem. thnx for the info.
great book
I’m a HUGE Paul Runyan fan and the reason that I bump everything around the green….I usually only take SW or 8iron when I’m close to the green….after watching this im gonna focus more on landing area and paying attention to roll out…thx for simplifying the rule for me…looking forward to playing golf with you 1 day
Nice playa
I’m a huge Paul Runyan fan too. His ability to chop down trees was legendary.
Kevin and Perry go large at the golf course 😎😆 cool video. Gonna use it 👍🏻
Great timing Chief. Been drilling the shot game lately. Needed something to think on more than greater loft less roll out. Teaski dancing- Wadda life
I was preparing myself for the Videographer of the year awards
Leaned a lot from this guy 👍
10:24 breakdancing and chipping lessons. All in one!
LOL!! I missed that on the first watch.
I think this Rule would be better used to find your landing spot if you know you like to chip with, say, a PW. Can use the formula to find your spot! My previous question about different strengths in loft still stands…
Wow this is amazing. Will definitely try it
I am a Hdcp 9, never heard of this but I will use it as my short game sucks 😄
Now incorporate the same thought but in putting. Distance to the hole divide by 2 for slow greens (8 or 9), divide by 3 on medium greens (10-11), divide by 4 on fast greens (12 and above). If you are putting down hill then divide your distance by 2 to start and then apply the formula. I find uphill putts formula is always treated as a slow green (8 or 9).
I used this method a few years back, so much so I had yardages written down. I used four clubs. I pitched everything five paces and recorded the roll out. My sand wedge was and is always pitch half way there and roll out the other half. You just need to get to a practice green and practice it and learn it. It’s better to stand a little taller and use a putting stroke.
Which four clubs did you use?
@@GolfSidekick 54*, PW, 9 & an 8 iron.
Great video this is very interesting I will start using some of these tricks
Let me know how you get on with it
You mention green speed dependent. How do you determine what the green speed is?
(In NC recently we have had a LOT of rain...This means the greens are going to be slower right?)
Love the content ❤
Couldn't stop thinning with the sw last round. Cost me at least 6 shots. I need this concept to work 😂 I'll be trying it next week
Been using rule of 12 for a while now. Club adjustment is dependent on green speed and slope. I stay w 12 and adjust after calc
I didn't realize the rebel base on Hoth had a golf course. Nor did I realize Hoth had summers.
can't wait to go practice this
Let me know how it goes
Great instructional video guys! Much appreciated. Can you let me know if the landing spot always (or at least usually) about a yard or two onto the green regardless of where the stick is? Cheers!
Can be. It’s easiest to use one landing spot. Sometimes it will need to change in special circumstances but 1-2 yards is a great place to start and stay with
Thanks a lot! Understood after 2 times watching..
Glad it helped!
Great Vedio, Thanks for sharing valuable info. Cheers
Great video as always, and thank you for all your great content. First time I'm learning about the Rule of 12 and definitely see the value in a data-based approach. As I play out a variety of scenarios though, I realized that if you wanted a 2 yard carry with a 20 yard rollout, you'd have to choose a 2 or 3-iron to accomplish that. Seems extreme. That said, I love the wisdom of getting the ball rolling on the green as soon as possible. So do you just trust the system and go with that low-lofted iron, or would there be another approach you'd take when wanting a long rollout of 15+ yards? Thank you again for your insight and advice!
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Great lesson video. Thank you!
I’ve used this method for six years and it’s the #1 reason my scores dropped five strokes per round. My only additions would be to …always start with the ball in the same spot off your back foot. Just going from outside to inside your back foot changes everything. And, to me, it’s easier to figure the correct club, no matter if up or down hill. Then, if uphill, use one club less loft. ( Go from normally a 9 iron to an 8 iron.). If downhill, use TWO clubs MORE loft. ( If downhill and normally you’d use a 7 iron, use a nine iron, but hit the same spot as if it were flat.). It makes computing a lot easier.
First time I've ever heard of this but this looks very interesting. I'm definitely going to try it out. Seems simple enough. thanks for this video.
Brilliant; any suggestions for how to quickly assess the stimp of the greens?
have a 'stock putt' that you hit on the practice green
the same putting stroke each time you can take to any course and you'll see how far the ball finishes from you - that's your personal stimp
@@GolfSidekickMatt have you just dialled into your muscle memory that “stock putt”?
@@andybrook-dobson726 Yes you develop this stock putt on the practice green. Your body will remember it. You can memorize the backstroke to your outside edge of your back foot.
"The more hole in ones you get"?! I have none and ive been playing for 30 years and am down to a 9 handicap!
Very cool. I've never heard of this before!
And now you can try it and let me know how it goes
Thanks much. You explained it so well.
Pleasure baus